Android Beats BlackBerry and Apple in the Race - General Topics

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According to latest survey by comScore the digital measurement provider Google's Android and Blackberry RIM have beaten up Apple in the wild race for best mobile Operating system,OS.
The from comScores "Mobilens Serivice" tells that the study of 30,000 mobile users; 30.4% were Android based as the leader followed by RIM ( Blackberry) and then Apple with a constant 25% share of the Market.
With Regard to this Race for Mobile OS Supremacy, all have there advantages, but on the other hand this proves that today a major Population uses smart phones. (65.8 million in US only) .
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I really like Blackberry's simplicity. Pity few feels the same.

Android now has 52% market share

Android win
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etp said:
I really like Blackberry's simplicity. Pity few feels the same.
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Nope, i feel the same too, the new Bold makes me horny.
Anyway, these numbers mean almost nothing: Apple sells only ONE phone, which costs about 800$, while there's a bunch of crappy low end android phones out there, so go figure.
This said, we're users, not shareholders, should we really care about marketing? I guess not, it's none of our business. What we should care about is software/hardware quality...on that note: there are many androids with awesome hardware, but does the software really keep up with that? Look at a super cheap lg optimus 7 (desire cpu+gpu package), it's smoother than a SGS II and costs about three times less. Even RIM has hardware acceleration now, BB OS 7 will be way faster than current android os when it will come out in a few months, and i won't mind picking up one if ICS won't be a MAJOR update. After a year spent on this OS i can say that it's not perfect, and i'm even kind of tired of playing the nerd part ironing out the bugs and glitches that google dev team is unable to handle.
You might say i'm a fool, and argue that RIM sucks and is about to die, but believe me, if android doesn't come to a new deal i can't actually tell who's gonna die first (at least in the highish end devices marketplace)

I love my android. Don't want anything else
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go android go

Google might be in the lead but there will always be loyal Apple and Blackberry users.

Android has the best quality in my opinion, and the fact they are open source is that much better!

Much easier to find Apple/BB loyalists than Android one in my opinion.

As expected

Android will be the King. And from the top cell phone news, almost 70% are about Android

Apple or Android
Apple and Adroid Both r nice
but i reffer Apple iphone most its the matter of Trust.

All software sucks.

goldbergx said:
Much easier to find Apple/BB loyalists than Android one in my opinion.
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I agree.
When I get my Android smartphone, it will be because of its low cost, first and foremost. I also appreciate the OS's flexibility. But I'm hardly "loyal" to the operating system, since it seems that its primary attraction is what it doesn't do, that is lock down the system from its users, than anything it does do.
When there is an OS that lets me use my smartphone computer like an actual computer but has full developer support, I'm jumping ship. (The most likely candidate will be Windows 8.)

go android!!!! piss on apple!!! and rim is ok people are just on apples nuts, if the white color gets u excited then u shud try coke

I'll always go for the one that gives me the most out of my OS, and that will always be Android. Though I'm not loyal to it.

If Blackberry, Symbian, WP7, WebOS and iOS do not do anything new and spectacular, a.k.a if the situation stays like how it is today, Android will be the king.
note: I am using an Android (Desire) and am very satisfied about it but I am more than willing to get something else, if it is better.

I'm sorry to share this idea here.
In my opinion, Apple is still the best. If you don't like it's premium price tags, Android has some good alternatives.
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Apple makes great devices but it's androids turn to shine. Open source linux is what users want. If you want a simple device that's easy to use then buy an apple.
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[UPDATED] The PlayStation Phone

Looks like Android might finally have a fighting chance in the gaming segment of the mobile OS world. While this only shows some hardware and doesn't say much about their game plan, I think it's great. If Sony and Google start producing some quality games for Android, MS definitely will come back swinging! Which means more games and choices for everyone. We might even see MS come out with a slider phone that has gaming controls!
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Those blank spots better be for dual nubs. Other than that, fugly hardware accompanied by a great OS.
EDIT: It'd look fine if they made it look almost exactly like a PSP GO or a X10 Pro.
Honestly, Android games are lackluster at best. I'd be highly surprised if SE could make a phone good enough to challenge MS's Xbox LIVE integration in WP7.
Not to mention SE has a track record for putting old software on their NEW phones *cough* DONUT *cough*... I'm thinking it'll be DOA.
This isn't Google's device, but Sony's. This is there product and probably be the only Android device to legitimately support PSP titles. So this one device has to compete against the not one but nine WP7 devices. It's also probably digital download only which killed sales of the PSPGo, I'm guessing it's gonna do the same here. And if it doesn't add updated graphics there kinda wouldn't be a point.
meh. looks like a cheap UI like on every othe android device. gaming on android sucks anyway. there are hardly any decent titles.
My goodness where is all this misinformation coming from. First its only a prototype device. Second its chip beats every WP7 device. Third Android has a boatload of games from top gaming companies that also support the iPhone(which pawns every other mobile gaming phone OS).
One device versus 9? Be serious the iPhone 4 pawns every UNRELEASED WP7 device.
vetvito said:
My goodness where is all this misinformation coming from. First its only a prototype device. Second its chip beats every WP7 device. Third Android has a boatload of games from top gaming companies that also support the iPhone(which pawns every other mobile gaming phone OS).
One device versus 9? Be serious the iPhone 4 pawns every UNRELEASED WP7 device.
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I never said it wasn't a prototype. You can tell just by looking at it, that this device was somewhat thrown together.
Just putting this out there:
If you want to game, just go for WP7.
Android is a huge joke when it comes to gaming, WP7 has a huge group of real video game developers, plus the addition of XBL. Whoever said PSP games were any good anyway?
Regardless, this looks interesting
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Moved to General as it has nothing to do with WP7.
whats up with the two dots covering up the space for a half querty ?
souljaboy said:
whats up with the two dots covering up the space for a half querty ?
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I think they're kinda like the things on F and J keys on a keyboard. Tell you where to place your thumbs maybe..
I duno how I feel replacing the analog stick with a multi touch pad.
I think it would be neat to see them make a controller case for other android phones, that communicated via. blue tooth. That way, establishing a hardware platform would be significantly easier.
I would NEVER buy one, no more SonyEricsson for me thank you...
S/E are just fuc&%#¤ with us customers, they only send out old android versions, and they don´t keep their promises to us...
So pleace think long and hard about it before you spend money on that company...
Yeah I've never heard good things about SE phones. But things could change. It will most likely ship with 2.2.1 or hopefully Gingerbread.
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New links in OP.
There's another thread about this exact topic, could a mod please merge them?
On-topic: I actually like the look of this phone, might think about getting one (once I've seen the release version)

Apple-sues samsung for copying Iphone/Ipad

http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/18/apple-sues-samsung-over-for-copying-the-iphone-and-ipad/
What do you guys think? Is Apple being copied by Samsung? They run different apps/os/hardware. Form factor is fairly close however......
Its mainly because of touchwiz. But I think they also sued for hardware which is kinda stupid.
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/18/apple-sues-samsung-over-for-copying-the-iphone-and-ipad/
What do you guys think? Is Apple being copied by Samsung? They run different apps/os/hardware. Form factor is fairly close however......
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hmm....they panic caue android will lead the world
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lol that's so stupid, Apple is getting their processors on Samsung.
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I LOVE and agree with what the Author said at the end:
"And hey, if you're going to sue Google indirectly, you can't leave a major player like Samsung outside the courtroom, it just wouldn't be fair."
Lol we have a nub unlike the iphone 'nuff said
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Dear Apple,
IOS sucks, you and I both know this, so please, don't start this suing thing again, and go prepare for the android take over.
Your former brainwashed friend,
Cashyftw
they should named their next device as iSUE.
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Way to copy, Samsung. Only Apple can use the patented design of putting the screen between the mic and speaker. Wait, what?
It will go nowhere, and in a way it is a huge compliment to Samsung. Apple is so worried Samsung is going to toast their sales, they go and do the oldest trick sue....... LMAO............ they did not get very far with Microsoft or any other of their so called lawsuits........ this will be no different.
It would be cool if sammy told apple to go F themselves when they want more components for there next phone
****ing Apple. What a stupid company that thinks the whole technology world revolves around them when it's in fact miles ahead of them.
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It would be cool if sammy told apple to go F themselves when they want more components for there next phone
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That wouldn't be the professional thing to do.
The professional thing to do would be to raise the cost of the NAND, the A4, and the A5 to pay for all of the legal fees. That way, Apple is paying the cost of both companies fees.
Samsung has a right to raise the cost when cost to manufacture goes up. This is probably what they'll do.
Also, I have one more thing to say.
Samsung's lawyers response should be along the lines of: "We take offense to Apple's accusations that the Galaxy S phones and tablets are a copy of the iPhone and iPad. Our devices do not instantly make the user a douchbag. Nor are our devices incredibly gay."
Don't forget, Apple sued HTC last year for touch and gesture features, including finger-swipe unlocking mechanisms, power conservation, touch-screen scrolling, and accelerometer capabilities.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/190596/apple_sues_htc_claiming_20_patent_infringements.html
They just hate other brands doing better phones then them...i ****ing hate apple
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Apple thinks this will make Samsung lose money. If anything, it'll show how Apple is scared of competition, and Samsung will sell MORE. Anyways, they sell more the the Galaxy S line. You can't make them lose money.
Well, back in 2008 I owned an iPhone. It was the 3G model and I was very pround because it had high standards for a phone at that time (processor, GPU). But when Galaxy S came out I realised that the best hardware components met the best software and hey, it s open source! The first real iPhone killed is Galaxy S and Android needed this flagship phone to overcome the competition. Samsung won t lose the trial with Apple and the good part is that iPhone 5 will be more expensive and it will have even lower standards than it s predecessor (we all know that Apple A5 DualclCore is clocked at 900Mhz and is far behind Sammys Exyon @1.2Ghz or Qualcomm s DualCore Snappdragon)
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First let me say that iPhone is by far the most popular phone in the world. And this is a stupid lawsuit, now when people are considering the iphone they'll think "wait, didn't I hear about a phone similar to the iphone that apple was suing for?". they'll find out about the galaxy s (or gs2 ) and get that instead. Congratulations Apple, you just lost sales.
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/19/apple-spent-nearly-5-7b-on-samsung-parts-in-2010-faces-strong/
Damn Apple are dbags. Trying to use this lawsuit to cover all their expenses on Samsung parts.

Why apple is bent on suing android.

Really?
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-20123511-37/steve-jobs-felt-android-was-a-stolen-product/
Let's face it. Without android you wouldn't be where you are either.
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evil to the last dying breath .... shame on him
android was created before iphone
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He was the same to Adobe with regards to Flash. If it wasn't for Macromedia/Adobe, Apple would have died LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG ago. If it wasn't for Macromedia's software, graphic design and video editing software, and, of course, Flash, wouldn't have been designed on a Mac and Apple would have died a slow, painful, death. And even before that, MS bailed the c***s outs.
........................greedy
He's a hypocritical ^ asshole. Visionary my arse.
It's because they are jelly Android is catching up
AllGamer said:
evil to the last dying breath .... shame on him
android was created before iphone
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and it looked like blackberry for the uneducated before they saw the iPhone, this is the stupidest argument to put out.
z33dev33l said:
and it looked like blackberry for the uneducated before they saw the iPhone, this is the stupidest argument to put out.
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Both Android and iOS look like S60, so if other arguments are stupid, yours isn't any better.
AllGamer said:
evil to the last dying breath .... shame on him
android was created before iphone
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First Android phone did not come out until 2008.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history
Illicit Hero said:
First Android phone did not come out until 2008.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history
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oh lord.
You do realize being out in the market and existing or in development arent the same right ?
iPhone STILL looks like it did when it first launched. Bunch of icons on several pages. Apples theft or "borrowing" of design and features is well known and documented. People dont have it out for Jobs they just recognize hypocrites when they see one.
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oh lord.
You do realize being out in the market and existing or in development arent the same right ?
iPhone STILL looks like it did when it first launched. Bunch of icons on several pages. Apples theft or "borrowing" of design and features is well known and documented. People dont have it out for Jobs they just recognize hypocrites when they see one.
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Same can be said about the iPhone, point?
Not long before microsoft fears android os for pc lol.
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How many options does ios5 "steal" from android or others. Such is the nature of business. If someone buys something, another company is going to produce a similar product with their own twist to appeal to another group of consumers and some of the "original" company's. When one company started building suvs, and another company sees a trend they will too. If one company sees that ppl like rear window wipers others are going to manufacturer them too. Take something, build it to your liking and add in to it. There are few truly genuine and unburrowed ideas in today's business. If you think you have a niche in the market, don't plan on having it long unless you continue to innovate. Heck, apple even spends less on its r&d per revenue then goggle, microsoft, or rim. Because they gave up on innovation and spent more on legal departments and advertising?
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XDA's view on Apple

Hello,
since I'm still rather new on the forums, I would like to know what the people here think of Apple and their devices, and of course, why. I think I already understand people aren't positive, which I'm either. Speak your mind!
My view? Well, I of course prefer Android. The freedom of flashing Roms is great, Android simply is much more open. I also see many Apple products with broken screens, and I nearly never spot a Droid with one. Apple products are overpriced in my opinion, too. And as last, patents, enough said.
I have to admit that I maybe am a little too subjective. I think that the overall hardware quite good, apart form the screens, and its interface feel rather good.
Oh, right, I forgot to mention innovation, which Apple lacks
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Hello,
since I'm still rather new on the forums, I would like to know what the people here think of Apple and their devices, and of course, why. I think I already understand people aren't positive, which I'm either. Speak your mind!
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IB4L. Given the flaming that takes place between Android and Apple on this (as well as other) forums, there is no way on earth this thread will be left open.
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SimonTS said:
IB4L. Given the flaming that takes place between Android and Apple on this (as well as other) forums, there is no way on earth this thread will be left open.
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Hmm, I didn't really expect that to happen, but if it does, yes, close it.
I hate anything with fruit logo on it.i dont even eat apple anymore.
My keyboards shape is an apple patent
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I won't buy their products. I like the open source android and having ultimate control of my device. Now after this lawsuit against Samsung, I definitely won't buy any crapple products.
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Hm.
Well, I would have to say that albeit the devices have a premium feel [with the two latest iterations], the Apple ecosystem is generally a money trap.
I'd rather have a Blackberry over an Apple device. At least I wouldn't have to be afraid of breaking it with a 2 foot drop.
They don't get nearly the credit they deserve. Particularly around here.
Innovation stiflers.
As for their products, they're okay, if overpriced and hard to unbundle. With Apple, we pretty much get accept-everything-or-leave-it devices, and I don't really like their design aesthetic - even Metro is preferable to me.
Nothing really special. Easy to use but they're not my type. Overpriced and very limited.
They make quality hardware but lackluster software, to closed/limited for the price you're paying. They also have those overtly absurd patents that endanger the mobile ecosystem as a whole.
I like the design, it looks professional and iconic. Other than that, nothing.
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They're a good company, superior marketing, but shameless and greedy.
The hardware on them is just wonderful (minus the processor, but I suppose it doesn't need it with their OS). If on Android, every OEM could team up to make an ultra phone (i.e. Sony Camera, Tegra graphics, Exynos Processor, Motorola durability/signal strength etc.) like Apple did with everyone else's parts... well I might not be saying the same thing.
Apple is sort of like the Firing Squad, and each of the Android Manufacturers are like the Lineup. Apple takes each of the best parts from each OEM and kills them off. For example (most recently) Samsung chips, but sues them. It's a great strategy. But also a pretty a-hole move.
In conclusion, GREAT HARDWARE, SMOOTH OS, BUT CLOSED SOURCED JERKS. That's just me.
I think they make a decent product that appeals to those who want something simple to use. If the company wasn't the biggest patent troll around, I wouldn't mind recommending their products to people. They only sell one phone and I think there are different wants from consumers. Some like a larger screen, some like smaller screens, some like QWERTY keyboards, some would rather have a thinner phone with only a software keyboard. They had a pretty nice looking OS in 2007, it looks outdated nowadays. Its also a very limited OS with minimal customization allowed.
I see apple as a onetime great company that allowed the untech savy people to fianlly have the ability to use the latest tech, then they gained such a cult following they realized they could be a little greedy, when that worked so well they set there sights higher until they became a very greedy company whos inovation spirit was lost and forgotton.
Then they decided they want everyone tobe an isheep and make it so if you don't choose them you cannot choose anyone.
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XDA has a sister site iphone-developers.com.
I think this thread is pointless and should be closed and don't you mean XDA members view
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The iPhone has always had the best build quality. The iPhone always felt really good in the hand. You really feel like your possessing something made for the gods. The only thing about the built quality that I don't like is the glass screen, it breaks so easily.
The iPhone has the most apps, iTunes, and no risk of viruses so your always secrure. The battery life will almost always get you through at least a day. The picture quality is remarkable, and the camera is easy to use. When there's an update (if your device is going to get it) you recive it almost immediately. The ios interface is simple, beautiful, and fun to use.
Apple is never influenced by other companies. They never put technology in there phones thats not practical (HTC releasing the Tbolt that only lasted 4 hours) (4LTE drains battery's way to fast to be put in a phone).
Having that said, I refuse to buy an iPhone until it supports a 4 inch (or bigger) screen that's 720p. And atleast 1.2 gzh dual core A5 CPU.
Yep, I'm picky
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They're like polishers.... Take what's good in the market or premature (ie. A product or an idea) and redesign as well as clean up the rough edges n then release it.
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The only thing I like from Apple, having used the Iphone 4, is the app store.
I don't care how many apps there are for each platform, but in the iphone, hundreds of apps are very polished and made almost perfectly. This includes games. I'm not even going to mention games and apps on the ipad; when they're optimized correctly, they're beautiful. (see: snapseed, alienblue, etc) You just enjoy using those apps. Many apps and games on Android are just iphone ports, and due to fragmentation, you don't get 100% perfect games like the developer intended.
Other than that, I don't care about apple or their products.
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ICS taking so long...Maybe this will help you understand.

http://www.androidcentral.com/why-you-ll-never-have-latest-version-android
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Another ics thread seriously man
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Another ics thread seriously man
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Guess I should relabel for Noobs.
While i agree with most of the article you shared with us , some reasons were insufficient.
In a carefully planned business , nothing is impossible.
For example , Google can force Open Handset Alliance to develop a Universal UI and whenever a new kernel comes aboard you just paste the universal ui into the new kernel. This is beneficial for everybody. Updates will take less long and customers will be happier. (Carriers will be pressured to speed things up)
Or Google can take the matter into its own hands by going to the hardware manufacturers and obtaining the necessary information for drivers thus saving the manufacturers from unnecessary work. Google gets more customers and Device Manufacturers get more money.
But what do i know ?
Google is a big corporation. Big corporations always have plans and their backups.
As far as i pretend to know , Google already has plans that are waiting to be put in motion after eliminating all the bugs.
Just you wait... IOS will be nothing more than ash and ruins in no time. Open-Source is the future and the way to go.
boltthrower56 said:
While i agree with most of the article you shared with us , some reasons were insufficient.
In a carefully planned business , nothing is impossible.
For example , Google can force Open Handset Alliance to develop a Universal UI and whenever a new kernel comes aboard you just paste the universal ui into the new kernel. This is beneficial for everybody. Updates will take less long and customers will be happier. (Carriers will be pressured to speed things up)
Or Google can take the matter into its own hands by going to the hardware manufacturers and obtaining the necessary information for drivers thus saving the manufacturers from unnecessary work. Google gets more customers and Device Manufacturers get more money.
But what do i know ?
Google is a big corporation. Big corporations always have plans and their backups.
As far as i pretend to know , Google already has plans that are waiting to be put in motion after eliminating all the bugs.
Just you wait... IOS will be nothing more than ash and ruins in no time. Open-Source is the future and the way to go.
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You're forgetting about the free market. Every phone has different components from different manufacturers from all around the world. Putting that kind of pressure on companies will only help the major brand names. You don't expect Windows 8 to install on the XP machine you got in 2001, do you? So why are we asking for the latest Android release for a phone we bought last summer? 18 months might not seem like a long time, but in terms of the technology and innovation that has come out within that time, 18 months is a long time.
Fragmentation is an issue, but its unrealistic to expect Google to force every company to keep up with their innovations.
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You're forgetting about the free market. Every phone has different components from different manufacturers from all around the world. Putting that kind of pressure on companies will only help the major brand names. You don't expect Windows 8 to install on the XP machine you got in 2001, do you? So why are we asking for the latest Android release for a phone we bought last summer? 18 months might not seem like a long time, but in terms of the technology and innovation that has come out within that time, 18 months is a long time.
Fragmentation is an issue, but its unrealistic to expect Google to force every company to keep up with their innovations.
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Those were the solutions i came up within a minute or so. They'll have bugs of course.
Also , not necessarily "Google". There can be other solutions.
The thing i tried to explain was , it's not impossible or unrealistic as you seem to think so.
The expectations create competition. Someone's gonna do it , we switch to that brand. The other brand will lose sales and will soon follow in it's example.
Sympathy for corporations will get you nowhere as a consumer , as corporations already look out for themselves.
You should look out for yourself by pressuring corporations to provide better service however impossible or unrealistic that may be.
A wise man once said ; If you thank for the small one , you can't get the big one.

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