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[Q] No Full Google Maps 5.0 Functionality?

I'm sure you guys have seen the video of Google Maps rocking out on the new Motorola Tegra 2 Tablet, so I was pretty excited to download the update today. But it appears that we are unable to do the 2 finger "swipe" (which changes pov down) and the "twist" (which rotates the view).
Maybe I just suck with the movements, but I was trying for five minutes and couldn't accomplish either. So what do you think? Hardware can't support it (a la the Nexus One), or software?

There is no doubt that multitouch is currently very broken on the G Tablet. Single touch is very sensitive, but as soon as you try to detect even 2 fingers simultaneously, the driver seems to have some major issues, glitching back and forth unless you lean all out on the screen. It's like it's normalizing the magnitude of the two signals improperly. And there seems to be no "true multitouch" capability with this sensor, because I've been unable to get it to sense three simultaneous touches at all. I've tried two of the Multitouch testing apps in Market, with the same results.
So definitely there's the need for updated touchscreen drivers to fix pinch and zoom, etc. , but I'm not clear whether or not the touch sensors are hardware-crippled like the Nexus One, or whether the improved drivers can fix this better than I suspect.
Edit: See my post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863741&page=8 I've managed to fix my terrible multitouch/pinch-to-zoom. It looks like it was a calibration issue, and now that I got the TSCalibration executable working properly, pinch-to-zoom works much better. However, the limitation on multitouch to two simultaneous touches seems to be baked into the drivers or the hardware and can't be fixed by calibration. So no "true multitouch" yet with the G Tablet.

Thanks for the excellent reply. Crossing my fingers it's just a driver issue that can be addressed. I've seen the devs here work wonders, so hopefully we can get this touch screen under control.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App

Well just for you all know, I have a streak, an evo, my gf has incredible my brother has a droid. ALL OF THEM, excluding the evo, has just 2 finger recognition in the multitouch test's from market.
The evo has 5. Also, maps 5 works perfectly on my streak with just 2 finger recognition.
Cheers

New maps works fine on my nexus one. Haven't tried on my G tab yet.

The two finger down works on my gTab but I can't make the 2 finger rotate do anything, I can't make it do anything on my droid 1 either, nor do I see any 3D buildings, guess I just don't know where to look.

landykos said:
New maps works fine on my nexus one. Haven't tried on my G tab yet.
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Do you mind sharing which ROM are you running on your N1? I can't get the two finger swipe to work on mine or on the gtab.
EDIT: scratch that - I have it working now on N1.

prscott1 said:
Do you mind sharing which ROM are you running on your N1? I can't get the two finger swipe to work on mine or on the gtab.
EDIT: scratch that - I have it working now on N1.
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I'm on CyanogenMod 6.1.1. I get the tilt to work have you been able to get the rotate to work??

i know on the gtab if your two fingers are too close together, multitouch will crap out. try putting some distance between the two fingers or try one finger each hand.

landykos said:
I'm on CyanogenMod 6.1.1. I get the tilt to work have you been able to get the rotate to work??
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I'm on miuimod and get tilt but no rotate.

the 3d stuff is just plain missing for our tabs... the new features screen didn't mention the same items as my evo did when i updated... something's different for this version... not cool. perhaps having to do with MDPI gapps?

myndwire said:
the 3d stuff is just plain missing for our tabs... the new features screen didn't mention the same items as my evo did when i updated... something's different for this version... not cool. perhaps having to do with MDPI gapps?
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I noticed that too. My G2 had a list of about 4 things. The gtab had 2?
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App

Nospin said:
I noticed that too. My G2 had a list of about 4 things. The gtab had 2?
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App
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exactly what i had happen -- there's definitely stuff missing. the only options i recall seeing on the tab were the offline stuff and 1 other trivial feature... no 3d or multi-touch... not cool :-\ you'd think they'd just delay the update; this makes me think it's not going to happen, and that the moto tablet is HDPI

the fact that the tutorial/tips doesnt show us the 3d tilt/2 finger drag makes me think the software is limiting what were allowed, not the hardware. If it said we COULD do it, but we physically couldnt trigger it, then id be worried.

lame. the only thing we got thats new is the offline caching. rotating maps doesn't work, 3D doesn't work, vector based zooming doesn't work.
i even tried sideloading it from my droid onto the tab but still got the same result. its definitely the software disabling it. i wonder if this is what google is planning on doing going forward with tablets that aren't using 3G. what a slap in the face.

that's even more screwed up... if you pulled the apk from your phone that it works on, then it's almost definitely the tab's os doing it... perhaps its unhappy with whatever model / make device our tabs 'tell google' we're using? not sure... there's also the possibility that whatever prevents the new features from working isn't part of the actual apk, rather another file from maps (it's got files in a couple of places if i recall, including a framework directory, etc). those files could be to blame..
either way, i'm terribly disappointed right now... to top it off my evo just randomly stopped charging unless i jiggle the crap out of the power connector. i've even tried 3 different microusb cables, and there's not 1 sign of physical damage to the interface on the phone... this is bs... sorry, really needed to vent a bit...

If you go to about it ids the platform as android-VEGAn v something or other but my EVO shows HTC-Supersonic Pc36100. Somehow we need to spoof it.

Definitely seems like google maps is reading something on our tablet and deeming it not worthy of all the features. Makes me optimistic that a bit of hackery might get this thing working. Just need to get somebody who knows their way around the code to maybe modify the apk.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App

rcgabriel said:
There is no doubt that multitouch is currently very broken on the G Tablet. Single touch is very sensitive, but as soon as you try to detect even 2 fingers simultaneously, the driver seems to have some major issues, glitching back and forth unless you lean all out on the screen. It's like it's normalizing the magnitude of the two signals improperly. And there seems to be no "true multitouch" capability with this sensor, because I've been unable to get it to sense three simultaneous touches at all. I've tried two of the Multitouch testing apps in Market, with the same results.
So definitely there's the need for updated touchscreen drivers to fix pinch and zoom, etc. , but I'm not clear whether or not the touch sensors are hardware-crippled like the Nexus One, or whether the improved drivers can fix this better than I suspect.
Edit: See my post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863741&page=8 I've managed to fix my terrible multitouch/pinch-to-zoom. It looks like it was a calibration issue, and now that I got the TSCalibration executable working properly, pinch-to-zoom works much better. However, the limitation on multitouch to two simultaneous touches seems to be baked into the drivers or the hardware and can't be fixed by calibration. So no "true multitouch" yet with the G Tablet.
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There's a hack out there which I plan to add to the next TnT Lite / VEGAn builds. Allows those of you without a microSD card to calibrate your device, just by adding a file to the root of /sdcard. I'm thinking of maybe a supplement for TnT Lite, but I also want to see what VS is planning to do in the next few days.

Can someone post the apk? I can't find it on the market have the previous version running, and did the market fix a few times!
Thanks

[Q] Modifying my build.prop to sneak a Samsung app...

Long story short, I have a G2x and don't really care for the available model specific dock, but found the dock for the Samsung Infuse 4g was more what I wanted. I've since rcvd it and as far as the fit and the charging, both successful [albeit, there is a small gap on either side, but not enough to be a deal breaker by any means...]
I then found I needed to DL the 'samsung home dock' app from the marketplace in order to get full functionality [use of a built in speaker and a speaker line out among other things]. Np, it's free... but wait, what's this, it's not there?!? Oh, turns out it's one of those sneaky apps[not unlike netflix at the moment] that is only visible to phns w/the right build.prop fingerprint. Still, np, I'll get it online from the xda forums, they have EVERY apk... They did and I did, still wouldn't install.
SONUVAB! Yep, buggered by the build.prop yet again!
So, now that the short version of my long story was found out to not be short, I am at a dilemma of sorts. I really want to be able to use the audio line out on the dock as well as the built in speaker [even though it's more of a novelty considering I doubt it is as good as the DTS capable speakers on the G2x] so I need the build.prop lines for a samsung model, the mfg, etc.
If you can help me, there is a big thanks in it for you... Not enough you say. Well, maybe a bought drink if you have that nifty link attached to your post.
Alright ppl, let's get crackin!

RhynosAndroid said:
Long story short, I have a G2x and don't really care for the available model specific dock, but found the dock for the Samsung Infuse 4g was more what I wanted. I've since rcvd it and as far as the fit and the charging, both successful [albeit, there is a small gap on either side, but not enough to be a deal breaker by any means...]
I then found I needed to DL the 'samsung home dock' app from the marketplace in order to get full functionality [use of a built in speaker and a speaker line out among other things]. Np, it's free... but wait, what's this, it's not there?!? Oh, turns out it's one of those sneaky apps[not unlike netflix at the moment] that is only visible to phns w/the right build.prop fingerprint. Still, np, I'll get it online from the xda forums, they have EVERY apk... They did and I did, still wouldn't install.
SONUVAB! Yep, buggered by the build.prop yet again!
So, now that the short version of my long story was found out to not be short, I am at a dilemma of sorts. I really want to be able to use the audio line out on the dock as well as the built in speaker [even though it's more of a novelty considering I doubt it is as good as the DTS capable speakers on the G2x] so I need the build.prop lines for a samsung model, the mfg, etc.
If you can help me, there is a big thanks in it for you... Not enough you say. Well, maybe a bought drink if you have that nifty link attached to your post.
Alright ppl, let's get crackin!
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Here's what you're looking at. if build.prop is the only issue then you're fine. just download a rom that has this app and use the model information for that rom. API level too. something tells me you will need libraries from that rom too though.

He is right.... i have a Vibrant at home but i am at work right now... If you want i will post the build.prop for you and suggestions on what to use, if it is only the actual prop that's holding you back.
here is a vibrant build prop with what i suggest to change. BUT!!!! BACKUP YOUR CURRENT BUILD.PROP!!!!!! I am not responsable if you bork your phone!!!
ro.product.model=SGH-T959
ro.product.brand=Samsung
ro.product.name=SGH-T959
ro.product.device=SGH-T959
ro.product.board=SGH-T959
ro.product.manufacturer=Samsung
ro.build.product=SGH-T959
ro.build.fingerprint=Samsung/SGH-T959/SGH-T959/SGH-T959:2.2/FROYO/UVKB5:user/release-keys
ive used a simular one when i was running netflix on my vibrant but using a build prop from a ZOOM tablet...

Yeah, I know well enough to back up, been down that road w/my G1.
As far as it just being a build.prop issue, that's what I'm hoping, but not expecting. I know it's at least part of the issue though. Gotta go 1 step at a time.
I do thank you both though and will use any help I can get.
Sent from my Bionix 2 - A TeamWhiskey Production using XDA App

Wouldn't it just be easier to find the APK and manually install it?
I doubt the app will require build.prop settings (hope not). Seems like a lot of work to just download an app.
Apps:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11029148&postcount=45
Thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952932

player911 said:
Wouldn't it just be easier to find the APK and manually install it?
I doubt the app will require build.prop settings (hope not). Seems like a lot of work to just download an app.
Apps:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11029148&postcount=45
Thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952932
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As it states in my original post, I've already tried DL the apk from the xda forums. Unfortunately, also as stated, the install fails. Much like the Netflix app requires a specific build.prop for it to work (although it still doesn't work on all handsets) being a manufacturer specific app, it also checks the build.prop.
I know modifying it isn't a guaranteed fix, its definitely worth a try.
Sent from my Bionix 2 - A TeamWhiskey Production using XDA App

Also as far as the libraries are concerned, I would recommend extracting both roms into seperate directories and diffing them. See which libraries dont match up and just try to add them slowly one by one and see if it works. Thats what I did back in the day and sometimes it worked. Logcat might give some useful info too. Usage: adb logcat

Skyrocket Appreciation

This phone is awesome. I have yet to see any posts showing interest in their phone, beyond changing ROMs like its a disease.
I recently found out I can use 'Six-Axis controller' to connect a ps3 controller to my phone and effectively have a portable n64 console with me. All I need to do now is find a Conker's Bad Fur Day or Banjo-Kazooie ROM.
I recently found out about LCD density changing and messed around with it a lot. 180 makes our Skyrocket look sexy. (But now I'm experiencing market compatibility issues so I need to look more into it).
I like organization, so SD-Maid was a nice find and I'm going to learn Titanium Backup to increase my battery life. Just need to find a freeze list.
I found the site My ColorScreen so theming will be a task soon undertaken, as soon as the necessities are figured out.
So come on, share some cool things about your phone. Whether it's a cool Llama task you made, new homescreen setup, an app you think people should know about, a ROM you like (AOKP + CM9, thank you guys), or an important tip you should know (I didn't know Titanium Backup could restore my folder settings in Nova Launcher, that would have saved time).
Be a little positive guys.

Why is it that an incorrect, naive post about an OTA update for Skyrocket can get two pages instantly full of people *****ing about how useless the thread is (then don't reply to it smartass).
While a thread with the capacity to help people find some cool things about their phone gets nothing.

I hear the app "LCD Density Modder Pro" can fix the market compatibility issues. It's a paid app though.
Any more info on the six-axis controller and how to use the phone as a "portable n64"? That sounds interesting!
Edit: Ah, a little bit of googling answered my question about that six-axis controller.. didn't realize it was an app. Makes sense now. Which N64 emulator do you use?

I don't root my phone but I love it to death! I also agree that negative posts get more responses than US news media stories.
That being said I love that flipboard app and I'm going to be buying a new Samsung LED TV. I've heard that we can turn our phones into remote controls for the actual TV, if not yet its on the horizon.
I also use mine for web browsing mostly and I'm looking for a cool app like MATLAB based or something that has Physics and Calculus formulas all over. I hope this thread gets going. Mad thanks to the OP. This is the first thanks I've used.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using XDA

iceman012284 said:
That being said I love that flipboard app and I'm going to be buying a new Samsung LED TV. I've heard that we can turn our phones into remote controls for the actual TV, if not yet its on the horizon.
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I currently have a Samsung TV, and it's true that we can use our phone as a remote control, as long as your TV has wifi and you connect your phone to the same network. You'll just need the app conveniently named "Samsung Remote" lol. It's free in the market. Works for their blu-ray players too I think.

Krazedkuniva said:
I hear the app "LCD Density Modder Pro" can fix the market compatibility issues. It's a paid app though.
Any more info on the six-axis controller and how to use the phone as a "portable n64"? That sounds interesting!
Edit: Ah, a little bit of googling answered my question about that six-axis controller.. didn't realize it was an app. Makes sense now. Which N64 emulator do you use?
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Mupen64AE, pulled for free from the developers site here. You just run sixaxis and start the emulator, then map the buttons (less than 10 seconds) and you're good to go. Emulators were always a cool idea to me but they didn't translate well for certain games, but honestly with the analog sticks and actual triggers its a perfect experience.
I hope this thread gets going. Mad thanks to the OP. This is the first thanks I've used.
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Thank you! I hope it does too!
Edit: I do wish I could help finding a MATLAB type app.
I hear the app "LCD Density Modder Pro" can fix the market compatibility issues. It's a paid app though.
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I was considering it, but I found a modded play store apk in our themes and apps section. It seems to be working so far. I've also heard of other ROMs that have 'per app dpi'. Which would be awesome.

whosgotlag said:
While a thread with the capacity to help people find some cool things about their phone gets nothing.
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Is your arm not long enough to pat yourself on the back?

whosgotlag said:
I like organization, so SD-Maid was a nice find and I'm going to learn Titanium Backup to increase my battery life. Just need to find a freeze list.
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Good list for freezing here - https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...1gdDJRekl4QmkyNmIzUmRvX2h3UDVkQXc&output=html

occupational_hazard said:
Is your arm not long enough to pat yourself on the back?
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Good contribution jackass! And .... it does. What do you want me to say.
Good list for freezing here - https://spreadsheets.google.com/spre...Xc&output=html
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Thank you! Now I have a mini project for tomorrow. I've never frozen an app before but I assume it's relatively straightforward.

You bumped your own thread because no one else would. You could have at least contributed the process of how to use the ps3 controller with the phone.

occupational_hazard said:
You bumped your own thread because no one else would. You could have at least contributed the process of how to use the ps3 controller with the phone.
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Mupen64AE, pulled for free from the developers site here. You just run sixaxis and start the emulator, then map the buttons (less than 10 seconds) and you're good to go. Emulators were always a cool idea to me but they didn't translate well for certain games, but honestly with the analog sticks and actual triggers its a perfect experience.
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Read.

Tab 3 8 Kit Kat. What's new?

I just got the kit kat update for Tab 3 8. I live in LA California. Wifi only and I had to force it using the check for updates option. So I can list a few differences I'm noticing. I'm pretty sure all this stuff is new but some of it might be stuff I missed with 4.2.2.
Transparent notification bar.
New multiwindow experience. Now it does not have that little tab hanging over the side. Now you swipe it in from the side. I haven't played with it, I still find it unusable.
You can customise the toggle ribbon more now. You still have to have tons of icons but you can pick the order and take a few out.
The lock screen has a now playing type widget that looks nice.
On-screen keyboard toogle for bluetooth keyboards. I actually am trying to write a screenplay on this tablet and I had to buy a stupid app to fix the stupid keyboard the stupid way it worked be stupid fore and now it works better and I bought a stupid app for stupid nothing. But I'm glad it works better now.
That's all I've noticed so far. I also don't use touchwiz, I use nova.
Tell me what you guys are noticing or if you find an official list of changes let me know. Thanks everybody
- Matt

Jacksonville, FL here and no update available yet.

Cosmetically it's hard to notice the difference on the firmware, but under the hood there are some serious changes to the firmware, but all for the better.
The "Transparent Notification bar" was there on JB 4.2.2,
And "Multiple windows" is very functional now.
● TouchWiz is lighter and smooth now...
(I'm so happy with it's performance now, to the point I didn't bothered to install the Google Now Launcher yet...)
● Third-party apps can't write to External SD card anymore...
(There is a way if you root the device)
● Some extra new Wi-Fi settings.
● The keyboard is improved and the "Picture gallery" and other factory apps also received some TLC for the better.
But for me, the "Multiple User capability" is definitely th e Icing on the cake.
Sent from my SM-T310 using Tapatalk

I wish samsung would have given us the new touchwiz. but of course they won't..

NJ_RAMS_FAN said:
I wish samsung would have given us the new touchwiz. but of course they won't..
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[emoji25] One year old device and already considered 2nd class and outdated by the manufacturer...
This is likely the first and the last update this device will see from Samsung.
I like Samsung devices, but I finally lost interest in buying any Samsung devices in the future.
Sent from my SM-T310 using Tapatalk

Smokey Mc Pot said:
[emoji25] One year old device and already considered 2nd class and outdated by the manufacturer...
This is likely the first and the last update this device will see from Samsung.
I like Samsung devices, but I finally lost interest in buying any Samsung devices in the future.
Sent from my SM-T310 using Tapatalk
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you and me bro.. look at my sig.. tons of samsung product.. but no more!!! unless its super cheap, i wont another one..

NJ_RAMS_FAN said:
you and me bro.. look at my sig.. tons of samsung product.. but no more!!! unless its super cheap, i wont another one..
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Head on over to the Apple forum. They update their clunkers ...well basically forever. ..LOL.

DigitalMD said:
Head on over to the Apple forum. They update their clunkers ...well basically forever. ..LOL.
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[emoji57] Is that comment meant to be an attempt in sarcasm ?
[emoji23] It come out just plain silly instead!
Please do not attempt a career as a comedian,
[emoji39]You will fail miserably!!!
There is more to Android than just Samsung devices!!!
Sent from my SM-T310 using Tapatalk

"OK Google Everywhere" works like a dream on the Tab 3
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auto brightness sucks.
I was hoping the autobrightness would get fixed. For me it's always way too dim. Where is the light sensor?
PCycle said:
I just got the kit kat update for Tab 3 8. I live in LA California. Wifi only and I had to force it using the check for updates option. So I can list a few differences I'm noticing. I'm pretty sure all this stuff is new but some of it might be stuff I missed with 4.2.2.
Transparent notification bar.
New multiwindow experience. Now it does not have that little tab hanging over the side. Now you swipe it in from the side. I haven't played with it, I still find it unusable.
You can customise the toggle ribbon more now. You still have to have tons of icons but you can pick the order and take a few out.
The lock screen has a now playing type widget that looks nice.
On-screen keyboard toogle for bluetooth keyboards. I actually am trying to write a screenplay on this tablet and I had to buy a stupid app to fix the stupid keyboard the stupid way it worked be stupid fore and now it works better and I bought a stupid app for stupid nothing. But I'm glad it works better now.
That's all I've noticed so far. I also don't use touchwiz, I use nova.
Tell me what you guys are noticing or if you find an official list of changes let me know. Thanks everybody
- Matt
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PCycle said:
I was hoping the autobrightness would get fixed. For me it's always way too dim. Where is the light sensor?
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Autobrightness is horrible on the Tab3, it's fine on my S5 as well as previous S2 and other Android devices I've used. But the Tab3 Sucks, I'm always taking it off auto especially durring the day, dim as hell lol

is no one concern about the edge sense failure in the announcement?

I saw the phone's announcement, and in my opinion they should never let Charlie Chang present a phones again.
It was one of the most awkward announcements I watched. He looked like he is going to explode, and every feature he presented it looked like he is praying to god that it will work.
but that's one thing.
during the presentation he tried to activate google assistant through the Edge Sense, and it didn't work, then he tried again and it failed again, then he made the most awkward "ooopss" he could make, while trying again couple of times until he continued presenting the google assistant without mentioning or talking about the incident (which is understandable but still troubling).
the weirdest thing is that I can't find any review or post that talks about it, I thought the press will destroy Htc for this screw up.
for me it's really troubling, this gimmick can be nice, but it's the first time we see something like this on any phone and I have doubts about its quality.
what do you think?

Meh, to say that I've never had stuff like that happen on any phone I've owned would be a huge understatement.

Had a unit in hand to test it one week ahead of the official announcement. On my test unit the Edge Sense worked really good, after getting accustomed after the first 30 Minutes and configuring it to my pressure sensitivity in settings.
Sent from my htc_pmeuhl using XDA Labs

Jeah some other people already tried Edge Sense and said something similar like @5m4r7ph0n36uru said. Its working okay or good - better then many expected. But for me its just a nice to have. Lets see how much they can improve this feature with future Software updates. Maybe its just a feature that ends up being a public prototype which would also be okay. If this feature is any good they will probably improve the hardware behind it in a future device.
I mean its the same with the fingerprint scanners, the first and even second version in the iPhone was quite bad in my opinion. The one in the 6s is good, but the ones before where too slow and the failure rate was too high (for me).

liorderei said:
I saw the phone's announcement, and in my opinion they should never let Charlie Chang present a phones again.
It was one of the most awkward announcements I watched. He looked like he is going to explode, and every feature he presented it looked like he is praying to god that it will work.
but that's one thing.
during the presentation he tried to activate google assistant through the Edge Sense, and it didn't work, then he tried again and it failed again, then he made the most awkward "ooopss" he could make, while trying again couple of times until he continued presenting the google assistant without mentioning or talking about the incident (which is understandable but still troubling).
the weirdest thing is that I can't find any review or post that talks about it, I thought the press will destroy Htc for this screw up.
for me it's really troubling, this gimmick can be nice, but it's the first time we see something like this on any phone and I have doubts about its quality.
what do you think?
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I wouldn't read too much into it - could be nerves, could be the phone wasn't set up properly for him, old software, etc.
Microsoft launched a version of windows (I think it might have been Win98) and during the launch they encountered the Blue Screen Of Death... it didn't seem to have much impact on their future!

I'm not too worried. If it doesn't work well I will just disable it. The phone is still nice.

Entrail said:
Jeah some other people already tried Edge Sense and said something similar like @5m4r7ph0n36uru said. Its working okay or good - better then many expected. But for me its just a nice to have. Lets see how much they can improve this feature with future Software updates. Maybe its just a feature that ends up being a public prototype which would also be okay. If this feature is any good they will probably improve the hardware behind it in a future device.
I mean its the same with the fingerprint scanners, the first and even second version in the iPhone was quite bad in my opinion. The one in the 6s is good, but the ones before where too slow and the failure rate was too high (for me).
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They will update it. As HTC told in the same briefing, they are already planing to implement Double-Tab as a possibility to take further actions with Edge Sense, though they couldn't tell the date at this time but only that it is on the list. So I guess they are definitely planing to implement more gestures by such a step making short press, long press and double press available. With two different force settings, this would give us six gestures in total to configure for separate actions.
Something further is App based actions that'll be implemented to change the action resulting from a short press depending on the App you're using.
Sent from my htc_pmeuhl using XDA Labs

I saw reviews. it works pretty well.

5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
They will update it. As HTC told in the same briefing, they are already planing to implement Double-Tab as a possibility to take further actions with Edge Sense, though they couldn't tell the date at this time but only that it is on the list. So I guess they are definitely planing to implement more gestures by such a step making short press, long press and double press available. With two different force settings, this would give us six gestures in total to configure for separate actions.
Something further is App based actions that'll be implemented to change the action resulting from a short press depending on the App you're using.
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I hope so and i am sure they will but all I'm saying is that the hardware will be limited like i said with the fingerprint or another example the pressure sensitivity from the surface pen. In the first iterations it only had 256 different steps now they have around 2000. (not sure about the exact numbers here )
My hope is not too big about this squeeze feature in the first iteration but i am curious and will give it a try.

liorderei said:
I saw the phone's announcement, and in my opinion they should never let Charlie Chang present a phones again.
It was one of the most awkward announcements I watched. He looked like he is going to explode, and every feature he presented it looked like he is praying to god that it will work.
but that's one thing.
during the presentation he tried to activate google assistant through the Edge Sense, and it didn't work, then he tried again and it failed again, then he made the most awkward "ooopss" he could make, while trying again couple of times until he continued presenting the google assistant without mentioning or talking about the incident (which is understandable but still troubling).
the weirdest thing is that I can't find any review or post that talks about it, I thought the press will destroy Htc for this screw up.
for me it's really troubling, this gimmick can be nice, but it's the first time we see something like this on any phone and I have doubts about its quality.
what do you think?
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I thought the same Totally agreed with you... But I'm still buying the phone.. I hope after 1-2 updates it will work better.

I am lucky I wasn't in his shoes. Very awkward indeed. His hands were shaking.
I don't think it will damage sales. And in a live event anything can happen.

I don't think it even had to do with edge sense TBH... I think it had to do with the assistant apps themselves and probably the internet connection within the venue.

Mine works well do far. I just need to remember about it. I've left it starting the camera and it's good.

Honestly, I was hoping the edge sense would have worked just as the early videos showed of a couple walking the street and navigating the app drawer with the edge. Maybe version 2. But that was sick!
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mbaseball3 said:
Honestly, I was hoping the edge sense would have worked just as the early videos showed of a couple walking the street and navigating the app drawer with the edge. Maybe version 2. But that was sick!
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Can't say I've every been walking the street and needed to navigate the app draw. I have shortcuts for everything already. Actually only time I navigate the app draw is when I'm adding a shortcut lol. But I see what you saying. Maybe if they added volume up down or scrolling, but don't think that's how it works.

well... it would probably have worked better if she took them off..