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[Research] Evo Multi-touch issue.

youtube (.com) watch?v=1P9vMAvvkGY
This issue can be replicated by putting both finger on the screen, and lift one finger off the screen while keeping the other finger absolutely still. If the finger still remains on the screen moves, the phantom touch point will go away.
The kinds of problems the above issue is causing:
1. Most action/platform Emulator games on EVO is nearly impossible to play.
2. When typing too fast on the EVO keyboard, very rarely the keys will stick.
3. Driving games that require 2 finger to play will sometime jam when both finger are touching the screen. (holding break and gas at the same time when cornering)
While i haven't done much low level programing (Java guy myself), this seem to me like a driver issue, in which either the driver is not sending untouch interrupt to the OS. Or the OS is somehow not recognizing an untouch event when there are more then 1 contact point on the screen.
If it is either of the above cause, I think it should be a relatively easy fix if we can get hold of the source code for the driver/OS. However there is another possibility, in which HTC is using a cheap touch screen hardware in which the hardware itself is not design for multitouch, but rather the driver/os itself is doing extra calculation to approximate multitouch (Similar issue to Nexus One?), then this might be an unfix-able issue. I really hope this is not the root cause, but then again I am fairly new to using HTC hardware, and don't know their track history when it come to the quality of their hardware.
Does anyone have the source code to the driver or the OS snippet that interpret the hardware interrupts? I am interested in taking a shot at it and see if I can leverage my programing skill to fix the problem.

i dont have that problem at all
Hardware 3 epson screen

Are you sure? I posted the same problem on AndroidForums.com evo forum and multiple people reported able to reproduce the same issue.
It is not exactly easy to reproduce the issue when you are deliberately trying, might take a couple try, if will, can you please try again? I currently have the version 002 of the EVO. If the problem is indeed fixed on the version 003 of the EVO, I could just go to the nearest sprint store and trade the phone.

i have 002 and i dont have that problem either..i tried with the multitouch and with gba emulator..mines is fine

gordon1hd1 said:
Are you sure? I posted the same problem on AndroidForums.com evo forum and multiple people reported able to reproduce the same issue.
It is not exactly easy to reproduce the issue when you are deliberately trying, might take a couple try, if will, can you please try again? I currently have the version 002 of the EVO. If the problem is indeed fixed on the version 003 of the EVO, I could just go to the nearest sprint store and trade the phone.
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I see the issue on an 003 device with a Novatec screen.
EDIT: But then how often will you really notice this? I mean unless you have freakishly steady robot hands, your hands will move a tiny bit and it will clear. If you move so much as one pixel, it clears.
EDIT 2: I can also replicate this on my Droid & Nexus. Thats just how it works in Android it seems. It's not exactly a big deal IMO

Eh, confirmed but i dont think its much of an issue, as soon as you move the other finger a single pixel(which is ridiculously easy) it will go away. I was able to hold it for about 5 seconds before it went away.

gordon1hd1 said:
youtube (.com) watch?v=1P9vMAvvkGY
Does anyone have the source code to the driver or the OS snippet that interpret the hardware interrupts? I am interested in taking a shot at it and see if I can leverage my programing skill to fix the problem.
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two hardwrae revisions of the phone rev 2 and rev 3. i think both of them use the same touch panel.
booting into the bootloader will show - mine is rev 2 - atmel224_16ab
the source code is in toast's kernel!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=686240

Geniusdog254 said:
I see the issue on an 003 device with a Novatec screen.
EDIT: But then how often will you really notice this? I mean unless you have freakishly steady robot hands, your hands will move a tiny bit and it will clear. If you move so much as one pixel, it clears.
EDIT 2: I can also replicate this on my Droid & Nexus. Thats just how it works in Android it seems. It's not exactly a big deal IMO
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It is interesting that you can replicate the issue on the Droid, I had the Droid before this Evo, and never seem this issue when I was play zelda on Sneoid, but this issue became very apparent when I play zelda on the Evo. I am not sure if it is because of the bigger screen or maybe just different batch of the Droid, but never the less, this issue made playing Zelda, S.Mario, and Kirby on the Evo very difficult for me. I still hope to take a stab at fixing the code if all possible.
PS: I also used to have the iPhone 3GS with Snes emulator on it, and never ran into this issue either, maybe this is Android specific?

I think the bigger issue is not being to have more than 3 inputs. The touch sensor in our phones is evidently capable of a large number, with Android itself capable of 3. Only two inputs make games like Super Mario Mart impossible to really play.

Not really helpful, but I know exactly what you're talking about. I have noticed it quite a bit playing first person shooters where you constantly have two fingers on the screen. Good luck looking for a fix.

Ill post a video tomm on mine I have no problems playing NOVA or anything including super mario kart on the emulators maybe im just lucky?

You can hold left, b, and l/r at the same time in snesoid?

Android sees three? I can only get stuff to show two.

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Android sees three? I can only get stuff to show two.
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you can cheat and use 2 touch button and a physical button like the volume control. I had it up to 4 button on my Droid playing megaman soccer. But somehow on my Evo it is having trouble with 2 touch button

gordon1hd1 said:
you can cheat and use 2 touch button and a physical button like the volume control. I had it up to 4 button on my Droid playing megaman soccer. But somehow on my Evo it is having trouble with 2 touch button
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Sure, that way, but as far as on-screen stuff, I can only see two touch points at a time.

I tested out a demo Droid at a Verizon store this morning, and was not able to reproduce the issue. Beside Geniusdog254 can anyone else verify this issue for their Droid or Nexus One?

gordon1hd1 said:
I tested out a demo Droid at a Verizon store this morning, and was not able to reproduce the issue. Beside Geniusdog254 can anyone else verify this issue for their Droid or Nexus One?
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you'll prob get a higher volume and more accurate set of replies posting that question a droid or nexus one forum/board as opposed to the EVO 4G Development board ...
did the links i gave to the kernel source help at all in your research on the evo "multi touch issue" in this threads topic?

joeykrim said:
you'll prob get a higher volume and more accurate set of replies posting that question a droid or nexus one forum/board as opposed to the EVO 4G Development board ...
did the links i gave to the kernel source help at all in your research on the evo "multi touch issue" in this threads topic?
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I downloaded, but haven't had a chance to loaded up in Eclipse yet, been too busy at work

Using "Multitouch Vis Test", I can get the Evo to do it. Using Multitouch Visualizer 2, There is not a phantom touch. That makes me think it is a software issue rather than a Evo issue. How does MV2 know to respond to the lifted finger unless the Evo is reporting properly? The original MV seems to fall asleep when I slowly lift a finger.

[App] MLB AT BAT working on unsupported devices

I got the MLB At Bat 2011 app working for non supported devices since so many devices aren't supported that clearly can run it.
YOU MUST HAVE A MLB.TV SUBSCRIPTION TO GET THE GAMES!!
You also need to buy the At Bat 2011 app.
I have a nook color, but should work for any device.
I changed the build.prop to contain the fallowing:
ro.product.model=SCH-I800
ro.product.brand=verizon
ro.product.name=SCH-I800
ro.product.device=SCH-I800
ro.product.board=SCH-I800
ro.build.fingerprint=verizon/SCH-I800/SCH-I800/SCH-I800:2.2/FROYO/EC02:user/release-keys
rebooted and worked. Should be able to chose any supported device and it will work. This is from the verizon galaxy tab.

I'm very much looking forward to trying this today.
Is there some sort of shortcut that could be made so we don't have to manually edit things every time?
EDIT: it's working! Though the supposed "HD" is far from it, and this is streaming over wi-fi.

I will be checking this out with today's free game of the day!
Now, I just need an easy way to switch the build.prop to watch the games.

the build.fingerprint isn't needed to be changed, works without it. Got it working on my nook color, pretty nice. Need to OC it and have a good fast connetion. Still not near HD though.

Good to know about the fingerprint.
Streaming is working great on my Captivate. Connected on wifi, close to HD after about 30 seconds, but if the connection gets bogged down, the picture loses quality fast.
Nice to have it working, clunky as it is...

I find I need a knead perfect 3G or strong wifi to get decent streaming on my droid2 and nook.
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Will changing these settings have any unintended consequences for other apps or the operation of the phone in general? I have a Galaxy S but don't want to stuff anything up just for MLB At Bat.

nm, build.prop is a system file duh?

Congrats on getting this working, jkabaseball.
Are people getting the streaming working on CM7 Stable? I see that Nightly 37 was suggested before Stable came out. I'm on Stable now, and seeing the option, but only getting the white screen. I'm willing to try switching to 37, but it seems like there'd be no reason to do so, given that it's an older version. (Unless something was taken out before the stable release preventing this from working.)

Doesn't work on my nook with cm7. I even copied the signature.....yes I have sub also.
Cm7 installed on the Emmy
Sigh I had high hopes

I have been successful on cm7 stable on my HTC dhd. On a side note, anyone find a workaround to play blackout games?
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Congrats on getting this working, jkabaseball.
Are people getting the streaming working on CM7 Stable? I see that Nightly 37 was suggested before Stable came out. I'm on Stable now, and seeing the option, but only getting the white screen. I'm willing to try switching to 37, but it seems like there'd be no reason to do so, given that it's an older version. (Unless something was taken out before the stable release preventing this from working.)
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Just wanted to follow up, and say a HUGE thanks for the info. I modified the build.prop file like you said, and now I can watch the Cardinals anywhere on my Samsung Mesmerize. Just a note it works great even though I am running Voodoo. The only thing that is different is my swype keyboard won't work anymore, says that it was not meant to be used for my device, oh well, I love Cardinals baseball more than swype so who cares!! Thanks again for the info!!

mrfurion said:
Will changing these settings have any unintended consequences for other apps or the operation of the phone in general? I have a Galaxy S but don't want to stuff anything up just for MLB At Bat.
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Other apps that require a specific build.prop might not work. I have a Captivate and the preinstalled Swype does not work while I an using the modified build.prop.
I duplicated my build.prop, renamed the duplicate build.prop.mlb and made the changes. Then when I want to watch baseball, I rename the real build.prop to build.prop.real and rename build.prop.mlb to build.prop and then reboot the phone. I switch it back when I'm done.

plasticdarlow said:
I have been successful on cm7 stable on my HTC dhd. On a side note, anyone find a workaround to play blackout games?
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Enabling Mock Locations and an application that lets you spoof your location would probably work. Haven't tried it though.

lactardjosh said:
Enabling Mock Locations and an application that lets you spoof your location would probably work. Haven't tried it though.
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Tried that. It works for the NHL app, but NOT for MLB at bat

chinly43 said:
I'm very much looking forward to trying this today.
Is there some sort of shortcut that could be made so we don't have to manually edit things every time?
EDIT: it's working! Though the supposed "HD" is far from it, and this is streaming over wi-fi.
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I have the sgs4G not working for me and yes I have subscription. Any help? Does this work on tmo. Using the Verizon settings?

Doesn't work on the Xoom either.

jkabaseball: youre awesome!!! Works like a dream on my Cappy!! Not quite in HD, but still so awesome. Now to figure out, like above posts mention, how to navigate around the locale so I can see my Giants games!!! I tried the app for changing locale, but i believe its a bit more involved than just fooling App Market. Thanks a ton jkabaseball

kamasi36 said:
I have the sgs4G not working for me and yes I have subscription. Any help? Does this work on tmo. Using the Verizon settings?
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This might be too basic to ask, but - do you also have the paid app, rather than the free one? And is the sgs4g flash-capable? Those are also prereqs, in addition to the subscription.

The build.prop changes I posted is for the galaxy tab on Verizon. You should be able to use another device like droid2 build.prop and Skype should work as well. On my nook I thought the galaxy tab would be best.
Working on spoofing location. It mint be a little harder. MLB is pretty good at determining your location even through a VPN. I'm not sure if they are using gps location, which would be easy to spoof, or the network location where the stream is going to. I haven't got it to work on my pc yet, but will keep on working on android.

Build Quality/Issues?

Just wondering what people's experiences are so far with the physicalilty of the device. I really like the way it feels and fits in my hand, with the keyboard open and in landscape mode. Also love the feel of the keyboard, tho i might change a couple things in the key layout.
The one thing i'm seeing is my keys are already getting quite scuffed, perhaps from being pressed with my thumbnails? A few of the printed letters are wearing down and i'm afraid i won't be able to see them after not too much longer! Is anyone else seeing this?
Other than that, the overall build quality is ok, maybe a tad cheap-ish(?), but i like it. In some ways it could be my favorite qwerty phone yet.

Physically the phone is solid. Mentally.. not so much.

Agreed on the mental instability bit.
The things my Photon would do, but not limited to:
1. Notifications go into the ether (don't pop up in notification bar)
2. Apps that go fullscreen will sometimes cause the nav/status bar to black out
3. Vibrate completely at random
4. Take 5 minutes to unlock
5. Regularly see my SD card as "corrupted"
6. Autopunctuation fails at random
And that's all I can remember off the top of my head. It seems to have some real crazy quirks. Hoping CM10 makes it better.

Xodium said:
5. Regularly see my SD card as "corrupted"
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...YES...and now is my 32GB SD definitely dead
For me is this problem only with 32GB cards.16GB works fine.

I forgot to mention, the touchscreen seems a bit wonky to me.... Not very responsive, gotta press a few times sometimes to open an app, and it sorta freaks out sometimes and doesn't swipe from side to side and opens stuff i didn't mean to open. I had a Moto Cliq 2 and had similar touchscreen issues.
I think CM10 would be great on this device, we oughta get cracking on that build. I don't know for sure, but I'd be surprised if we ever got official support from the CM team.

yogi2010 said:
I think CM10 would be great on this device, we oughta get cracking on that build.
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Done.
Now to get it functional...
I still think we should focus on CM9, then worry about getting 10. But that's just me...

arrrghhh said:
Done.
Now to get it functional...
I still think we should focus on CM9, then worry about getting 10. But that's just me...
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Sounds good to me, we do have ICS source, right? How come the source download is only a few MB tho? Did they just release the drivers, and you gotta add them in to the rest of the code?

yogi2010 said:
Sounds good to me, we do have ICS source, right? How come the source download is only a few MB tho? Did they just release the drivers, and you gotta add them in to the rest of the code?
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Moto released the kernel source, they are under no obligation to release userland source.
I have gotten CM9 booting, but not much else. Interloper didn't have the device and was working on CM10... it never booted. I'm hoping he'll make some progress with the device in his hands.

arrrghhh said:
Moto released the kernel source, they are under no obligation to release userland source.
I have gotten CM9 booting, but not much else. Interloper didn't have the device and was working on CM10... it never booted. I'm hoping he'll make some progress with the device in his hands.
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For fun i have built an HTC kernel or two, and the source downloads were always almost 100 MB tho, so i was confused when i looked at our source, haha. I'm not real experienced tho.
From what i hear, getting it to boot is a huge part of it, so that's great. Hopefully we'll get further along soon!

yogi2010 said:
For fun i have built an HTC kernel or two, and the source downloads were always almost 100 MB tho, so i was confused when i looked at our source, haha. I'm not real experienced tho.
From what i hear, getting it to boot is a huge part of it, so that's great. Hopefully we'll get further along soon!
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The actual kernel source is something like 2gb uncompressed on my machine...

arrrghhh said:
The actual kernel source is something like 2gb uncompressed on my machine...
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Ah yes, i see it now lol. Had gone to the wrong link before.

CornholioGSM said:
...YES...and now is my 32GB SD definitely dead
For me is this problem only with 32GB cards.16GB works fine.
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64GB cards do this as well.
I have a fix: Go to a Mac (haven't tested this on PC) and have Disk Utility repair the SD card. Twice for good measure. Usually clears it right up. It's annoying when it happens and I'm nowhere near my computer, though.

arrrghhh said:
Moto released the kernel source, they are under no obligation to release userland source.
I have gotten CM9 booting, but not much else. Interloper didn't have the device and was working on CM10... it never booted. I'm hoping he'll make some progress with the device in his hands.
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They have a 3 month obligation before they violate the GPL for every kernel/software update.

The phone has some issues but so did my evo shift to a certain extent which is why I was re-flashing ROMS all the time. Go to any phone forum and there are always bugs
- I only have the weird touchscreen problems, that someone mentioned above, only when the phone is charging. A little weird. if I overtax the phone i can cause some hangups. I blame Android more than the touchscreen or processor.
- I'm in and out of cell service alot because of the location of my job. I've been blaming that for the fact that notifications come at weird times and out of order. When I'm in service all the time, notifications seem pretty solid.
- The physical keyboard seems to double-type occasionally, but overall I'm ok with its performance. Keyboard slide out mechanism is good, where on my evo shift I thought was a bit too..."loose"?
- I have the wifi drop problem that someone mentioned in another thread. I blame software on that as well. Maybe the next patch will get it right. These companies are just trying to push phones out the door these days. Remember when video games couldn't be updated over internet and how solid they were out the box? Nowadays, everything needs OTA patches at some point. Shame, but I digress.
- camera could be WAY better (auto-focus, poor lighting scenarios). This may be my biggest complaint, because this should be solid out the box given how far phone cameras have come. How long have phones had cameras now? I had a phone camera in 04.
I could give a long list of good physical and software points. Overall I'm really happy. JB would make me happier, but ICS on the Q is pretty darn good.

I have a few scrapes/scratches on my spacebar from sliding the phone open and closed so often, but that's it.
Also, that little oval/dot thing on the left side of the keyboard face of the phone to the left of the number 1, what is that?
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dpwhitty11 said:
Also, that little oval/dot thing on the left side of the keyboard face of the phone to the left of the number 1, what is that?
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Caps lock indicator.

cmags said:
Caps lock indicator.
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Is it supposed to light up or something?
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yes bro..it supposed to light on when we activate caps lock key..
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cloud_9 said:
yes bro..it supposed to light on when we activate caps lock key..
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Oh. Mine doesn't. Oh well.
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Ever since I updated, my keyboard backlight is no longer "automatic". Have to set it always on because it stops turning on when set on automatic.
Physically, phone is solid.

My Spen "Reset" App

I hope this is the right place to post this. I have owned and really loved my N7000 for several months now. As an ex-Palm user, the SPen stylus was a huge draw. I began to note, however, that over time the accuracy and the location of the floating pointer of my SPen began to drift. I searched and found many people complaining about this and saw multiple posts of "fixes" to try. I even found a paid app in the marketplace that claims to deal with this. I recalled that on my various Palm devices I occasionally had to re-run the touchscreen calibration routine and began to look for one of these thinking it should be built-in. But I could not find one that actually seemed to help.
After more digging I discovered a technique that seemed to work. Simply changing the SPen's dominant hand setting back and forth from my setting of Left to Right and back to Left again made a big difference. But doing so was inconvenient and really had to be done with some regularity to keep things really perfect. After more searching, I discovered how changing the SPen device's dominant hand (not the actual preference setting but seemingly communicating directly with the device) could be triggered by a script. However, this requires ROOT and some way to launch the script. I tired this and found it worked well.
So I decided to wrap this technique up in a little app - my first real Android app. It also requires ROOT and uses much the same technique as the script. You simply tap the app's icon and the quick change is performed - there is no UI. The app determines your current dominant hand setting from the preference file and then tells the device to switch to the opposite hand and back again. Nothing too big here but it seems to work for me (as well as some others who posted this "fix" idea).
I would think it good for this to be scheduled to run regularly (maybe once every .5 - 1 hour) so one never has to be bothered. But for now I haven't figured out how to do this and my guess is there are free apps available that can run this on a schedule. I was able to find such a program to run the script in this manner.
But I have not tested this on any but my own N7000. Will it work for others? Will it work on US carrier's versions of the Note? Will it work on the Note II or the new tablet that has an SPen? I am not sure and am hoping others out there will try this and let me know their findings and suggestions.
Thanks
EDIT: Please note that I have moved the APK file to the Google Play Store. Here is the link.

Wow! Thanks for this tool. :thumbup:
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good start

whitedavidp said:
I would think it good for this to be scheduled to run regularly (maybe once every .5 - 1 hour) so one never has to be bothered. But for now I haven't figured out how to do this and my guess is there are free apps available that can run this on a schedule. I was able to find such a program to run the script in this manner.
Thanks
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For those that have it, Tasker should allow one to schedule this activity as needed. For those that don't, I recommend looking into it.

you should be able to get it to run as a service,
http://developer.android.com/reference/android/app/Service.html

Nice bro.. But I think this goes in the themes and apps section.. Guess you gotta ask a moderator to move your thread there
Tapatalking on my n7000

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For those that have it, Tasker should allow one to schedule this activity as needed. For those that don't, I recommend looking into it.
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Also, I can no report that I have this running on a schedule using the Scheduling function of the excellent SManager app from the marketplace. I have been using that to run the onandroid script automatically to perform nightly backups. It can run executable programs as well as scripts. To run the .apk you use the android activity manager program (/system/bin/am) using the following command line:
/system/bin/am start -n com.whitedavidp.reset.spen/.MainActivity
Cool!

fards said:
you should be able to get it to run as a service,
http://developer.android.com/reference/android/app/Service.html
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Thanks, I will look into that. I am so new to this I kept things as simple as possible. A service would seem the right way to handle built-in scheduling. But I would also want to retain the tapping of the app icon so it can be run on command in case the user has set the interval too large and wants to reset things right now.

thats a nice one
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thanks

Feedback on GB or Jelly Bean?
I should have mentioned in my original post that I have tested this only on Stock Touchwiz ICS 4.0.4 using Hydracore 4.3 kernel. It would be helpful to know if this works and does its job well on other platforms. Lacking adequate hardware, I can think of no way to ascertain this except asking others to try and give me feedback. Other suggestions are appreciated. Thanks

Thank you for this app! I'm using an SGH-T889 Note II and the app worked perfectly. It could just be my imagination, but it really seems like my stylus is way more accurate, so I'm assuming it worked! If anything the app installed and ran fine (it stated successful so I'm assuming it did), and I'm using a US version of Note II on Tmobile with a custom rom (Jedi X5). Just thought I'd let ya know in case you still needed to know if it worked on a different phone. Thanks again!
Sent from my 1992 Motorola StarTAC

jeep447 said:
Thank you for this app! I'm using an SGH-T889 Note II and the app worked perfectly. It could just be my imagination, but it really seems like my stylus is way more accurate, so I'm assuming it worked! If anything the app installed and ran fine (it stated successful so I'm assuming it did), and I'm using a US version of Note II on Tmobile with a custom rom (Jedi X5). Just thought I'd let ya know in case you still needed to know if it worked on a different phone. Thanks again!
Sent from my 1992 Motorola StarTAC
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Thanks for your info. I DO want to know if the app works on other Note I and II phones. It would be great to know if it works on the new tablets that SPens as well.

whitedavidp said:
Thanks for your info. I DO want to know if the app works on other Note I and II phones. It would be great to know if it works on the new tablets that SPens as well.
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Ok that's cool I'm glad I could help (even though it's miniscule lol). I can also say now that it's not just my imagination, because it actually does work. This morning I had some time to kill before a meeting so I was doodling it up. After a while I noticed the S Pen accuracy was really starting to slip, so I ran your app again and the difference was amazing! I'm really surprised that Samsung didn't intergrate an app like this, because you'd figure they'd recognize the precision drops over time by now. Anyway I'm definitely glad I found this man and once again I really appreciate your hard work!
Sent from my 1992 Motorola StarTAC

jeep447 said:
Ok that's cool I'm glad I could help (even though it's miniscule lol). I can also say now that it's not just my imagination, because it actually does work. This morning I had some time to kill before a meeting so I was doodling it up. After a while I noticed the S Pen accuracy was really starting to slip, so I ran your app again and the difference was amazing! I'm really surprised that Samsung didn't intergrate an app like this, because you'd figure they'd recognize the precision drops over time by now. Anyway I'm definitely glad I found this man and once again I really appreciate your hard work!
Sent from my 1992 Motorola StarTAC
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Thanks again for the feedback. I guess I will post this thing on the Play store so others may find it more easily. Maybe I will follow-up with a "Pro" version that permits periodic, scheduled running of the app and allows for the notifications to be turned off. Cheers!

whitedavidp said:
Thanks again for the feedback. I guess I will post this thing on the Play store so others may find it more easily. Maybe I will follow-up with a "Pro" version that permits periodic, scheduled running of the app and allows for the notifications to be turned off. Cheers!
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That sounds great man I'll definitely keep an eye out for it! Thanks again!
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hi
this app is a great idea! please update it with schechule... but i still have problems with landscape mode... there it's always off...
a fix for this would be soooo nice!
thx for youre work!

App runs on paranoid Android.
Not sure about tw roms but on cm/pa and aokp roms pointer icon is always slightly towards top left of screen. If phone is rotated, rather than point to the 'new' top left it is still pointing at the volume up button.
To fix landscape we need someone to work out how to convince the input that the screen is 1280 x 800 instead of 800 x 1280, this (I think) means the spen input would need to recalibrate every time your screen rotates eating batteries for breakfast.
Right handed use landscape where bottom of phone moves right (anticlockwise) you can still see it its just off. If you swing bottom of phone left pointer hides behind spen
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phasA said:
hi
this app is a great idea! please update it with schechule... but i still have problems with landscape mode... there it's always off...
a fix for this would be soooo nice!
thx for youre work!
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Thanks for the info and response. Can you please describe: (a) does my app help when in portrait mode? and (b) can you describe how the pointer is off when you are in landscape (which direction and by how much)? and (c) when you return to portrait mode does the pointer seem right?
I have a more complete version offering scheduling and other convenience features coming and will put both on the marketplace once I figure out how to do that.
PS - I think I read somewhere that toggling auto-rotate on/off may help "fix" the S-Pen and I wonder if this will work for you?
Cheers!

sam.crowther said:
App runs on paranoid Android.
Not sure about tw roms but on cm/pa and aokp roms pointer icon is always slightly towards top left of screen. If phone is rotated, rather than point to the 'new' top left it is still pointing at the volume up button.
To fix landscape we need someone to work out how to convince the input that the screen is 1280 x 800 instead of 800 x 1280, this (I think) means the spen input would need to recalibrate every time your screen rotates eating batteries for breakfast.
Right handed use landscape where bottom of phone moves right (anticlockwise) you can still see it its just off. If you swing bottom of phone left pointer hides behind spen
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Thanks for your info. Good to know that the app doesn't crash on Paranoid. My phone is TW ICS 4.0.4 with Hydracore 4.3 kernel. On my phone I do not see the issue with landscape mode that you and phasA describe. I can say that I really wasn't liking the way auto-rotate was working on my phone (sometimes just too sensitive). So I have installed this app which basically makes me confirm that I want to rotate. Perhaps this has something to do with my I am not seeing this issue?

I still didnt get the use of this app, sorry i am not at all rude but how can changing dominant hands reset the pointer settings. I mean what does it has to do with resetting the pen settings???
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is no one concern about the edge sense failure in the announcement?

I saw the phone's announcement, and in my opinion they should never let Charlie Chang present a phones again.
It was one of the most awkward announcements I watched. He looked like he is going to explode, and every feature he presented it looked like he is praying to god that it will work.
but that's one thing.
during the presentation he tried to activate google assistant through the Edge Sense, and it didn't work, then he tried again and it failed again, then he made the most awkward "ooopss" he could make, while trying again couple of times until he continued presenting the google assistant without mentioning or talking about the incident (which is understandable but still troubling).
the weirdest thing is that I can't find any review or post that talks about it, I thought the press will destroy Htc for this screw up.
for me it's really troubling, this gimmick can be nice, but it's the first time we see something like this on any phone and I have doubts about its quality.
what do you think?

Meh, to say that I've never had stuff like that happen on any phone I've owned would be a huge understatement.

Had a unit in hand to test it one week ahead of the official announcement. On my test unit the Edge Sense worked really good, after getting accustomed after the first 30 Minutes and configuring it to my pressure sensitivity in settings.
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Jeah some other people already tried Edge Sense and said something similar like @5m4r7ph0n36uru said. Its working okay or good - better then many expected. But for me its just a nice to have. Lets see how much they can improve this feature with future Software updates. Maybe its just a feature that ends up being a public prototype which would also be okay. If this feature is any good they will probably improve the hardware behind it in a future device.
I mean its the same with the fingerprint scanners, the first and even second version in the iPhone was quite bad in my opinion. The one in the 6s is good, but the ones before where too slow and the failure rate was too high (for me).

liorderei said:
I saw the phone's announcement, and in my opinion they should never let Charlie Chang present a phones again.
It was one of the most awkward announcements I watched. He looked like he is going to explode, and every feature he presented it looked like he is praying to god that it will work.
but that's one thing.
during the presentation he tried to activate google assistant through the Edge Sense, and it didn't work, then he tried again and it failed again, then he made the most awkward "ooopss" he could make, while trying again couple of times until he continued presenting the google assistant without mentioning or talking about the incident (which is understandable but still troubling).
the weirdest thing is that I can't find any review or post that talks about it, I thought the press will destroy Htc for this screw up.
for me it's really troubling, this gimmick can be nice, but it's the first time we see something like this on any phone and I have doubts about its quality.
what do you think?
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I wouldn't read too much into it - could be nerves, could be the phone wasn't set up properly for him, old software, etc.
Microsoft launched a version of windows (I think it might have been Win98) and during the launch they encountered the Blue Screen Of Death... it didn't seem to have much impact on their future!

I'm not too worried. If it doesn't work well I will just disable it. The phone is still nice.

Entrail said:
Jeah some other people already tried Edge Sense and said something similar like @5m4r7ph0n36uru said. Its working okay or good - better then many expected. But for me its just a nice to have. Lets see how much they can improve this feature with future Software updates. Maybe its just a feature that ends up being a public prototype which would also be okay. If this feature is any good they will probably improve the hardware behind it in a future device.
I mean its the same with the fingerprint scanners, the first and even second version in the iPhone was quite bad in my opinion. The one in the 6s is good, but the ones before where too slow and the failure rate was too high (for me).
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They will update it. As HTC told in the same briefing, they are already planing to implement Double-Tab as a possibility to take further actions with Edge Sense, though they couldn't tell the date at this time but only that it is on the list. So I guess they are definitely planing to implement more gestures by such a step making short press, long press and double press available. With two different force settings, this would give us six gestures in total to configure for separate actions.
Something further is App based actions that'll be implemented to change the action resulting from a short press depending on the App you're using.
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I saw reviews. it works pretty well.

5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
They will update it. As HTC told in the same briefing, they are already planing to implement Double-Tab as a possibility to take further actions with Edge Sense, though they couldn't tell the date at this time but only that it is on the list. So I guess they are definitely planing to implement more gestures by such a step making short press, long press and double press available. With two different force settings, this would give us six gestures in total to configure for separate actions.
Something further is App based actions that'll be implemented to change the action resulting from a short press depending on the App you're using.
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I hope so and i am sure they will but all I'm saying is that the hardware will be limited like i said with the fingerprint or another example the pressure sensitivity from the surface pen. In the first iterations it only had 256 different steps now they have around 2000. (not sure about the exact numbers here )
My hope is not too big about this squeeze feature in the first iteration but i am curious and will give it a try.

liorderei said:
I saw the phone's announcement, and in my opinion they should never let Charlie Chang present a phones again.
It was one of the most awkward announcements I watched. He looked like he is going to explode, and every feature he presented it looked like he is praying to god that it will work.
but that's one thing.
during the presentation he tried to activate google assistant through the Edge Sense, and it didn't work, then he tried again and it failed again, then he made the most awkward "ooopss" he could make, while trying again couple of times until he continued presenting the google assistant without mentioning or talking about the incident (which is understandable but still troubling).
the weirdest thing is that I can't find any review or post that talks about it, I thought the press will destroy Htc for this screw up.
for me it's really troubling, this gimmick can be nice, but it's the first time we see something like this on any phone and I have doubts about its quality.
what do you think?
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I thought the same Totally agreed with you... But I'm still buying the phone.. I hope after 1-2 updates it will work better.

I am lucky I wasn't in his shoes. Very awkward indeed. His hands were shaking.
I don't think it will damage sales. And in a live event anything can happen.

I don't think it even had to do with edge sense TBH... I think it had to do with the assistant apps themselves and probably the internet connection within the venue.

Mine works well do far. I just need to remember about it. I've left it starting the camera and it's good.

Honestly, I was hoping the edge sense would have worked just as the early videos showed of a couple walking the street and navigating the app drawer with the edge. Maybe version 2. But that was sick!
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mbaseball3 said:
Honestly, I was hoping the edge sense would have worked just as the early videos showed of a couple walking the street and navigating the app drawer with the edge. Maybe version 2. But that was sick!
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Can't say I've every been walking the street and needed to navigate the app draw. I have shortcuts for everything already. Actually only time I navigate the app draw is when I'm adding a shortcut lol. But I see what you saying. Maybe if they added volume up down or scrolling, but don't think that's how it works.

well... it would probably have worked better if she took them off..