I saw the phone's announcement, and in my opinion they should never let Charlie Chang present a phones again.
It was one of the most awkward announcements I watched. He looked like he is going to explode, and every feature he presented it looked like he is praying to god that it will work.
but that's one thing.
during the presentation he tried to activate google assistant through the Edge Sense, and it didn't work, then he tried again and it failed again, then he made the most awkward "ooopss" he could make, while trying again couple of times until he continued presenting the google assistant without mentioning or talking about the incident (which is understandable but still troubling).
the weirdest thing is that I can't find any review or post that talks about it, I thought the press will destroy Htc for this screw up.
for me it's really troubling, this gimmick can be nice, but it's the first time we see something like this on any phone and I have doubts about its quality.
what do you think?
Meh, to say that I've never had stuff like that happen on any phone I've owned would be a huge understatement.
Had a unit in hand to test it one week ahead of the official announcement. On my test unit the Edge Sense worked really good, after getting accustomed after the first 30 Minutes and configuring it to my pressure sensitivity in settings.
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Jeah some other people already tried Edge Sense and said something similar like @5m4r7ph0n36uru said. Its working okay or good - better then many expected. But for me its just a nice to have. Lets see how much they can improve this feature with future Software updates. Maybe its just a feature that ends up being a public prototype which would also be okay. If this feature is any good they will probably improve the hardware behind it in a future device.
I mean its the same with the fingerprint scanners, the first and even second version in the iPhone was quite bad in my opinion. The one in the 6s is good, but the ones before where too slow and the failure rate was too high (for me).
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I saw the phone's announcement, and in my opinion they should never let Charlie Chang present a phones again.
It was one of the most awkward announcements I watched. He looked like he is going to explode, and every feature he presented it looked like he is praying to god that it will work.
but that's one thing.
during the presentation he tried to activate google assistant through the Edge Sense, and it didn't work, then he tried again and it failed again, then he made the most awkward "ooopss" he could make, while trying again couple of times until he continued presenting the google assistant without mentioning or talking about the incident (which is understandable but still troubling).
the weirdest thing is that I can't find any review or post that talks about it, I thought the press will destroy Htc for this screw up.
for me it's really troubling, this gimmick can be nice, but it's the first time we see something like this on any phone and I have doubts about its quality.
what do you think?
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I wouldn't read too much into it - could be nerves, could be the phone wasn't set up properly for him, old software, etc.
Microsoft launched a version of windows (I think it might have been Win98) and during the launch they encountered the Blue Screen Of Death... it didn't seem to have much impact on their future!
I'm not too worried. If it doesn't work well I will just disable it. The phone is still nice.
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Jeah some other people already tried Edge Sense and said something similar like @5m4r7ph0n36uru said. Its working okay or good - better then many expected. But for me its just a nice to have. Lets see how much they can improve this feature with future Software updates. Maybe its just a feature that ends up being a public prototype which would also be okay. If this feature is any good they will probably improve the hardware behind it in a future device.
I mean its the same with the fingerprint scanners, the first and even second version in the iPhone was quite bad in my opinion. The one in the 6s is good, but the ones before where too slow and the failure rate was too high (for me).
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They will update it. As HTC told in the same briefing, they are already planing to implement Double-Tab as a possibility to take further actions with Edge Sense, though they couldn't tell the date at this time but only that it is on the list. So I guess they are definitely planing to implement more gestures by such a step making short press, long press and double press available. With two different force settings, this would give us six gestures in total to configure for separate actions.
Something further is App based actions that'll be implemented to change the action resulting from a short press depending on the App you're using.
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I saw reviews. it works pretty well.
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They will update it. As HTC told in the same briefing, they are already planing to implement Double-Tab as a possibility to take further actions with Edge Sense, though they couldn't tell the date at this time but only that it is on the list. So I guess they are definitely planing to implement more gestures by such a step making short press, long press and double press available. With two different force settings, this would give us six gestures in total to configure for separate actions.
Something further is App based actions that'll be implemented to change the action resulting from a short press depending on the App you're using.
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I hope so and i am sure they will but all I'm saying is that the hardware will be limited like i said with the fingerprint or another example the pressure sensitivity from the surface pen. In the first iterations it only had 256 different steps now they have around 2000. (not sure about the exact numbers here )
My hope is not too big about this squeeze feature in the first iteration but i am curious and will give it a try.
liorderei said:
I saw the phone's announcement, and in my opinion they should never let Charlie Chang present a phones again.
It was one of the most awkward announcements I watched. He looked like he is going to explode, and every feature he presented it looked like he is praying to god that it will work.
but that's one thing.
during the presentation he tried to activate google assistant through the Edge Sense, and it didn't work, then he tried again and it failed again, then he made the most awkward "ooopss" he could make, while trying again couple of times until he continued presenting the google assistant without mentioning or talking about the incident (which is understandable but still troubling).
the weirdest thing is that I can't find any review or post that talks about it, I thought the press will destroy Htc for this screw up.
for me it's really troubling, this gimmick can be nice, but it's the first time we see something like this on any phone and I have doubts about its quality.
what do you think?
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I thought the same Totally agreed with you... But I'm still buying the phone.. I hope after 1-2 updates it will work better.
I am lucky I wasn't in his shoes. Very awkward indeed. His hands were shaking.
I don't think it will damage sales. And in a live event anything can happen.
I don't think it even had to do with edge sense TBH... I think it had to do with the assistant apps themselves and probably the internet connection within the venue.
Mine works well do far. I just need to remember about it. I've left it starting the camera and it's good.
Honestly, I was hoping the edge sense would have worked just as the early videos showed of a couple walking the street and navigating the app drawer with the edge. Maybe version 2. But that was sick!
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Honestly, I was hoping the edge sense would have worked just as the early videos showed of a couple walking the street and navigating the app drawer with the edge. Maybe version 2. But that was sick!
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Can't say I've every been walking the street and needed to navigate the app draw. I have shortcuts for everything already. Actually only time I navigate the app draw is when I'm adding a shortcut lol. But I see what you saying. Maybe if they added volume up down or scrolling, but don't think that's how it works.
well... it would probably have worked better if she took them off..
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i know that the g1 has haptic feed back (u can feel the button when u touch it like the verizon instinct) is there a way to turn it on
I dunno...
I posted a question about this a few weeks ago, got tons of views but nada 1 reply.
I guess you and me are the only 2 people in the world intrested in this feature, and hence since only 2 people care about it it doesn't have the feature?
Id say if it was in the exsisting firmware we'd of heard of it by now, I think it will have to be a 3rd part app.
I thought it was odd that my post got no replys, maybe I smelled funny that day?
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Interested!
I too would love this feature.
It's obviously there as it shines through when you press and hold icons/widgets on the desktop to move them. Hope someone can figure it out.
2 motors
there are 2 motors in the g1 one is behind? or somewhere near the screen and another i think is located under the buttons and such so if they can be controlled independently of each other this could make for some very cool feedback, just thought Id throw this in...
bhang
bhang said:
there are 2 motors in the g1 one is behind? or somewhere near the screen and another i think is located under the buttons and such so if they can be controlled independently of each other this could make for some very cool feedback, just thought Id throw this in...
bhang
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Really? Wonder why they would have two motors...
Unless this was in the works at some point???
It wasn't just in the works, it's something that Google wants to use. It is a hard feature to implement, as different users will want different options (ie, some people would want it to only work for certain things like dialing, where others would want it to do it every time you touch the screen).
Id like to see screen presses, keyboard presses(just a tiny wiggle) and as configurable as possible like the above post mentioned, not just all on or all off, but at this point anything is better than no haptics.
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Id like to see screen presses, keyboard presses(just a tiny wiggle) and as configurable as possible like the above post mentioned, not just all on or all off, but at this point anything is better than no haptics.
bhang
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Google is afraid of making the options UI more bloated. This is very annoying, as it will cripple the device. I'm still predicting a fork of Android.
your probably right, but we have to wait and see
I'd say a fork will happen if tmob/goog/htc don't move fast enuff on upgrades, they can push out one quick when they figure out that if you girlfriends name is 'reboot' the fone will do so if u call her, so let's see rc31 with tons of upgrades come down even half that fast...
Id like to see the ratio of G1s rooted and non rooted, I wonder just how few there are with root.
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You may have seen my whining posts about the things that soured my captivate experience, and a big one was for some absurd reason (probably to eat up more data minutes) they made it show ****ty looking videos in the youtube player unless you navigate through a bunch of menus to make them HQ. See that way, you use more data.
Anyway, at least one thing is better because I put a youtube player from the Evo on there and it is a little bit better. Still not perfect because the stupid thing still shows low quality at first, but at least in this youtube there is a single HQ button on the player by the fast forward one touch and you've got HQ.
So I'll take that tiny victory, however shallow, over AT&T and Samsungs herculean efforts to f- up the nice chips, speaker, and screen on this device. Note I didn't say hardware because I'm not a fan of the case overall.
the player defaults to lower quality if youre not connected to wifi so you use less data and it loads quicker. this would be useful to people who have the 200 mb data plan. IIRC it was the same when i had an iphone 3g a couple years ago.
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You may have seen my whining posts about the things that soured my captivate experience, and a big one was for some absurd reason (probably to eat up more data minutes) they made it show ****ty looking videos in the youtube player unless you navigate through a bunch of menus to make them HQ. See that way, you use more data.
Anyway, at least one thing is better because I put a youtube player from the Evo on there and it is a little bit better. Still not perfect because the stupid thing still shows low quality at first, but at least in this youtube there is a single HQ button on the player by the fast forward one touch and you've got HQ.
So I'll take that tiny victory, however shallow, over AT&T and Samsungs herculean efforts to **** up this nice device.
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"a bunch of menus"? You tap the menu button, hit more, then HQ. It takes less than a second. I usually have it hit before the low-quality version is even buffered. Three taps is more than one, but it's not like they were asking you to do analytic geometry. Maybe I don't care because my fingers are fast, or because I have a grandfathered unlimited data plan.
As for their herculean efforts, if you don't use the AT&T/Samsung stuff, you don't notice any of it once you've rooted and enabled sideloading. At least I don't.
Mine defaults to high quality. Whenever I hit menu -> more the option in there always says "watch in low quality". I've checked several times because I was thinking the video looked pretty bad, but then I realized it was already in high quality mode.
My old HTC phone used to pick the quality based on available bandwidth. This type of functionality doesn't seem like it should be beyond google and samsung with their latest and greatest phone lol. Google owns youtube for god's sake.
this sounds like a troll post...
Didn't realize there were wars between android phones
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"a bunch of menus"? You tap the menu button, hit more, then HQ. It takes less than a second. I usually have it hit before the low-quality version is even buffered. Three taps is more than one, but it's not like they were asking you to do analytic geometry. Maybe I don't care because my fingers are fast, or because I have a grandfathered unlimited data plan.
As for their herculean efforts, if you don't use the AT&T/Samsung stuff, you don't notice any of it once you've rooted and enabled sideloading. At least I don't.
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What does sideloading do and how do I enable it. I too have an unlimited plan so I just want the best performance. I'm new to Android phones. I use to be a Nokia fan but got tired of waiting for the N8 or something nice from Nokia.
Not to Hi-jack this post but I'm open to any suggestions to make my Captivate a better user experience. So far I'm loving it !!
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What does sideloading do and how do I enable it. I too have an unlimited plan so I just want the best performance. I'm new to Android phones. I use to be a Nokia fan but got tired of waiting for the N8 or something nice from Nokia.
Not to Hi-jack this post but I'm open to any suggestions to make my Captivate a better user experience. So far I'm loving it !!
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There are, very nearly literally, a million threads on sideloading here. It means the ability to load apps not found in the Market--a feature AT&T disabled by default, without the ability to switch it in settings. Search for it, and you'll find how to enable it. Once it's enabled, you have the only real handicap AT&T put on the phone out of the way.
A few seconds
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That's enough time to ruin the video experience.
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As for their herculean efforts, if you don't use the AT&T/Samsung stuff, you don't notice any of it once you've rooted and enabled sideloading. At least I don't.
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I still notice the dialer. Isn't that still Samsung? It sucks compared to the Aria dialer.
You'd need to have actually used a sense device for a while to know what I mean, it's all about the cool predictive algorithm htc used, whereas the dialer on the captivate is no better than on my old Tilt (although a little faster, thank goodness, and I do appreciate the huge buttons)
Don't get me wrong, there are 5 good things about the captivate: The screen, the screen, the screen, the screen, and the speaker. And those 5 are enough to keep me interested.
autoxer said:
There are, very nearly literally, a million threads on sideloading here. It means the ability to load apps not found in the Market--a feature AT&T disabled by default, without the ability to switch it in settings. Search for it, and you'll find how to enable it. Once it's enabled, you have the only real handicap AT&T put on the phone out of the way.
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I can't find these threads regarding sideloading. Can anyone provide a link?
is there a way to trick youtube into thinking your on wifi so that it defaults to HQ.
I know on iphones theres "3g unrestrictor" is there something like that for android?
bowbei said:
I can't find these threads regarding sideloading. Can anyone provide a link?
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Dude, it's a sticky in the development forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=738376
5 different ways to sideload.
Also, in case you didn't even bother looking in the correct forum, there is a sticky in this forum right above this topic about how to sideload:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=735482
Next time search around before posting.
Pretty amazing, is what I got out of it. Any comments or thoughts? What couldve been done better? Overall thoughts?
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My thoughts are im glad I got my TBOLT out of contract so I can buy the Galaxy Nexus with a 2 year plan =D
I like the look of it and I am very excited for when it gets to the T-Bolt. My only complaint is I don't agree that the on screen buttons are more useful than the capacative buttons we have. I also just prey to god they release the AOSP code soon because I WANT MOAR!
I didn't get to watch the video because of class, but from what I read from engadget's live blog, I am excited. Honestly, I am a little surprised that I didn't see it running (from the pictures mind you) on a tablet. The NFC sharing app is heaven sent for me. I just wish people would adopt it more. Maybe with Google backing it more, other people *cough* will start implementing into their devices.
I enjoyed watching the stream even though it was low quality. Overall ICS looks great, opens up so many doors to what can be done and will come. SDK released tonight. Be nice when the full source is out so the Devs can start cooking..
I agree with muerteman about the buttons. I like the buttons on the bottom and not all on screen..
The people app reminded me of windows phone, and the swipe to remove items from the screen reminded me of webos. I really like the swipe feature on my touchpad, so that makes me happy to see it coming to ICS.
I can't wait for this device! My wife is probably taking my TBolt and I'm buying the Nexus off contract! ICS looks load nicer than GB that's for sure!
it was especially great that i was watching via my tbolt in my car dock while driving to work, and almost crashed when they I saw them going into "oh yes, facial recognition lockscreen"
Oh and P.S. I posted the Roboto font from ICS in the TBolt Themes & Apps section if you want it! It's quite nice!
Yea idk about the lockscreen thing. I'd be worried about what happened at the presentation. That for some reason my phone wouldnt recognize me. There better be some password backup (which I am sure google has thought of), or alot of people will be really mad. I want Tbolt ICS, im so giddy to try it out these next few weeks before the source drops will be torture. Atleast they confirmed they will open source this though, won't be anything like trying to get Honeycomb on the G-Tablet. Hmm, speaking of that I can't wait to see what this does with tablets. Hopefully I'll be running in on my tablet and my thunderbolt before the end of next month. Sorry for the long winded post, my mind is running while I lay in bed unable to fall asleep.
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Yea idk about the lockscreen thing. I'd be worried about what happened at the presentation. That for some reason my phone wouldnt recognize me. There better be some password backup (which I am sure google has thought of), or alot of people will be really mad. I want Tbolt ICS, im so giddy to try it out these next few weeks before the source drops will be torture. Atleast they confirmed they will open source this though, won't be anything like trying to get Honeycomb on the G-Tablet. Hmm, speaking of that I can't wait to see what this does with tablets. Hopefully I'll be running in on my tablet and my thunderbolt before the end of next month. Sorry for the long winded post, my mind is running while I lay in bed unable to fall asleep.
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agreed it does look to have its flaws, but it really makes me excited to see alot of the same actions i know and love from my tab 10.1 being done on a smaller faster and better scale
I LOOOOOOVED ICS and i cant wait to get it on my TBOLT!!!! and i cant wait to sell my TBOLT and buy myself that nexus!!!!
I watched the YouTube stream, and when it didn't recognize his face it switched to the pattern unlock before they cut away. So there IS a fall back. This is my next has a video up showing it, it looks great and seems very quick.
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agreed it does look to have its flaws, but it really makes me excited to see alot of the same actions i know and love from my tab 10.1 being done on a smaller faster and better scale
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Check Engadget they posted a video saying it actually works really well and extemely quickly. You also choose pin pattern or password as a backup =)
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What I worry about is how secure is it to have the notification drawer slide down when the phone is locked still. I don't remember if they said the phone stayed locked after tapping on a notification or not.
It would make sense that if the phone was locked and you slid open the drawer, tapped on a notification, and then hit back or home, it should bring you right back to the lock screen.
Shoot I have my TB all packed up and ready to ship once its sold on ebay. Nexus and ICS, here I come
Okay,
Some folks have had the phone for about 24hrs.
What things do you absolutely hate about the phone?
What is disappointing about it?
What will you mod on the phone?
And what about the phone would you like to walk up to the design team and give them a great big kick in the crotch about???
• Not a big enough bump technology wise from the Note 2
• Poor Radio's
• The speaker. Wish it had dual speakers
• The back cover not feel like leather
• Small notification light
• Knox security
• Gets hot when stressing the device
• Screen Gap
• Battery Drain
• Region Locking
• Only 4 columns on home screen
• Bezel size
• Bloat ware from carrier
• Headphone jack is said to be excellent
• Rooting to mod the battery indicator
• Long press the on the soft menu button will run S –Finder not Google Now
• * Lack of Custom roms
• * Lack of custom kernels
• * Locked bootloader
• * Ease of the ability to root
* Designates TBD
There are also quite a few complaints about the polycabonate build material of this phone.
Whether this is a reasonable complaint or not is up for debate. If you purchased this phone without reading about the plastic body or without demo-ing the phone beforehand. Then I think that responsibility resides with the consumer for not doing any research about this piece of technology.
What things do you absolutely hate about the phone?
The speaker. The speaker is much better than my old galaxy s3, but i'd really liked it if they had put in dual speakers. Luckily i don't use the speakers that often, but it still bothers me, although i knew it before buying the phone obviously.
I also really dislike the very small Notification light. The light in my S3 was much bigger.
What is disappointing about it?
I thought the back of the phone would feel like actual leather, but it doesn't. It's still better than my galaxy s3, but i much preferred the metal feel of my Desire HD.
I'm also disappointed that there doesn't seem to be any place to buy the samsung accessories in my country, they don't even have the phone added to the danish version of the samsung website, but i'll have to wait for it to be released, i just usually like to get the case with the phone.
What will you mod on the phone?
I'll root it when that becomes available, and install cyanogenmod(Or something in that category) when i get tired of touchwiz.
And what about the phone would you like to walk up to the design team and give them a great big kick in the crotch about???
The small notification light & the speakers. Possible adding a metal back, but not at the cost of a removable back.
What is the point of this thread in a newly released phone's forum? people just bought their phone and you are trying to get them to remember buyer's remorse. There really isn't any point in it
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Jamal Ahmed said:
What is the point of this thread in a newly released phone's forum? people just bought their phone and you are trying to get them to remember buyer's remorse. There really isn't any point in it
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The point of this thread is to catalog any problems people are having with their phones, so others contemplating a purchase can have more information. Personally, I appreciate it.
I'm very much interested in this thread and it's a very good question.
There a ton of love for the N3, but I also want to know what people don't like. Starfigher's issues would not be my issues, but it's good to know what bothers people and see if it is a global issue or just someone's personal preferences.
Jamal Ahmed said:
What is the point of this thread in a newly released phone's forum? people just bought their phone and you are trying to get them to remember buyer's remorse. There really isn't any point in it
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Back off. This is a useful thread
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Back off. This is a useful thread
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Agreed. Good thread, I am also very interested in what people dislike about the Device.
We already have threads covering all this, visit them so owners don't have to type it down again.
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We already have threads covering all this, visit them so owners don't have to type it down again.
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We already have threads devoted specifically to problems with the device?
bigmout said:
The point of this thread is to catalog any problems people are having with their phones, so others contemplating a purchase can have more information. Personally, I appreciate it.
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I appreciate it to...what I really want to know is how the dev support is going to be for the exynos version...and how well it works especially the octa core system and it's switching ability
I also like this thread. Problems can be a separate issue than likes/dislikes. Although I won't get my phone for a few days, I appreciate the feedback others are giving, both positive and negative.
I just got my N9000 today.
What things do you absolutely hate about the phone?
Knowing that this phone might be hard to customize because of Knox.
What is disappointing about it?
Long press on the soft menu button will run S-Finder not Google Now like in my Note II.
S-View Cover Wireless not available yet!
What will you mod on the phone?
Root it and mod the battery indicator. Basically, I will mod the touch wiz to make it look like in my Note II
And what about the phone would you like to walk up to the design team and give them a great big kick in the crotch about???
Wish it has dual speaker on the bottom
The reason why I made the thread is to have a single thread where early adopter could voice their pleasure or displeasure with particular aspects of the phone. As a Hobbyist/Prosumer you have to remember not all consumers are as phone or forum savvy as many of "YOU" are, when it comes to searching or finding out things about any phone.
So the idea behind this was to give a rundown of what people disliked and from there if they so choose to research it even more, they would have a few search terms to use in order to the using the "SEARCH" feature on the forum much easier. I will periodically update my original post with bullet points as it warrants with new found dislikes etc..
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Long press on the soft menu button will run S-Finder not Google Now like in my Note II.
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Ugh. No way to disable that without rooting?
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I will visit them and update my original post with I can find or understand as a gripe that isn't telecom or user error related.
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I'm very much interested in this thread and it's a very good question.
There a ton of love for the N3, but I also want to know what people don't like. Starfigher's issues would not be my issues, but it's good to know what bothers people and see if it is a global issue or just someone's personal preferences.
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And there are many good reviews and information available so most buyers should know what they are buying and in most countries you can return the device. Pointless thread.
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Nah. Wouldn't say so. Generally speaking, I trust members of xda more than random reviewers whose agenda I don't know.
Just as a starter: if I had known about this Knox - thingy, I might not have bought the N3. I read many reviews - but when I made the decision to buy the device, none of those were talking about Knox at all.
I hate the plastic build.
I dislike amoled.
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Ugh. No way to disable that without rooting?
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Install Apex (or a similar launcher), which lets you customize what long-pressing the menu button does. For example, I have mine set to open up Contacts.
Love everything, but the speaker! Its crap!!!
I'm working on a volume boost though..just as I found for the Note 2. Phone is now rooted..so should be able to edit settings!
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FIRST: This is my own opinion. You may disagree with it!
My Reasons:
I have Huawei P9. Looking at their Update policy I am not happy with it. P8 is not going to get a Nougat update which is SHAME! Not even 2 years of OS support... What a joke. This means My P9 most likely will not updated to a newer version after Nougat... Which means I will never again pay so much money for something that won't get at least 2 new OS updates (whole version).
Next: Nougat update. It's a complete JOKE. What's new? Split screen, App drawer (lol what innovation here!), couple redesign small things... Take a look at Samsung. They are actually adding new stuff... New apps that are useful: Password manager which makes a bigger use of the fingerprint scanner. Note app. New other stuff. And to be honest their Skin looks so much better. Colors are better. Did you see the ugly Black and Dark Blue colors on the Quick toggles on Huawei Nougat? Damn the guy who came with this idea should be fired as soon as possible! No Double tap to wake up, no raise to wake up... But hey they have Knuckle gestures.. Never used them? What a sick person will knock on his phone.. So dumb... Everytime I want to check my screen I have to look for the fingerprint or power button, chick with case makes a little harder to press everytime the power button, in the dark it's super annoying when you mistake it with Volume down... It's just annoying. Give me something easier. Wave to wake up, raise, double tap... Give me all of them and let me choose...
Next: Icons with app drawer are ridiculously BIG! I guess Huawei designers know nothing about aesthetics or don't care...
Next: Notes app doesn't sync with Gmail. I had iPhone and Samsung phones in the past. I really like Stock apps for notes, they are Free, no ads and easy to use.. And they sync with a Google account... This is not the case here.. There is just half baked app, made for 10 minutes while most likely the dude what on the WC...
So many stock Bloat but no Reminders app... Again! Did you try to set simple reminder without using Google Now? I did.. You need to go to Calendar, make Event, turn 100 option some ON, some OFF... Just give me a simple App like on iOS to make a Reminder in 10 secs.. Is this so hard? I guess it's so much easier than making 10 apps that no one is using...
Next: Nothing about Daydream... I guess it won't work with P9...
Next: Again Updates: Sammy released 4 BETA updates, iOS releases many Betas to make sure everything is OK when the final is released to the public.. Huawei still on 1st beta!!!! And most likely this will be the last... We will get Official release full of bugs and will have to wait months for a fix! Thank you Huawei!!!
Next: Huawei is one of the last OEMs that still hasn't uploaded their Stock apps on the Play Store. And we need to wait Months if there is a problem with some of the stock apps! Did you use the stock Huawei keyboard? Did you see how outdated it is? Doesn't have even all the emojis... Not talking about he look from 2008....
Next: Video recording software. Pixel uses software stabilization too, but it's so much better. Video recording quality is ridiculous for a phone at this price... Again I think someone did the coding while was doing his work on the WC... If Pixel can have a lot better recording with software stabilization why we should settle with suck a Joke?
This is why I won't buy another phone from Huawei. Too much negatives for me. And feeling sorry I didn't get the S7... The metal build was more important for me, but i did a mistake.. Should have taken the Glass.. Obviously other OEMs are doing a lot better job...
P.S: Biggest deal breaker: Updates... !
What's the problem if we're currently using Nougat Public Beta? I don't see any fallback. The official will be rolled out sooner or later.
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Hi Martin, thanks for sharing your opinion, which you're very much entitled to of course.
I'm not too worried about the update. It'll come. It's my experience that almost ALL OEMs are slow at updating to the latest version (Samsung, LG, Oneplus). And when the update comes it's either full of bugs (Oneplus) or makes your phone come to a screeching halt (Samsung).
Notes app... I haven't found anything better than Google Keep for that and it syncs across my devices. Reminders I usually set via the calendar which isn't really an issue for me, but I'm sure there are reminders apps in the Playstore.
Granted, Huawei does have quite a bit of bloat on it, BUT... It doesn't seem to have an impact on either battery life or speed of the phone for me. For me my P9 is my first phone which even after a good 5 months usage is still just as swift and fluid as the first day I got it. And everything just works.
guitarsmurf2501 said:
Hi Martin, thanks for sharing your opinion, which you're very much entitled to of course.
I'm not too worried about the update. It'll come. It's my experience that almost ALL OEMs are slow at updating to the latest version (Samsung, LG, Oneplus). And when the update comes it's either full of bugs (Oneplus) or makes your phone come to a screeching halt (Samsung).
Notes app... I haven't found anything better than Google Keep for that and it syncs across my devices. Reminders I usually set via the calendar which isn't really an issue for me, but I'm sure there are reminders apps in the Playstore.
Granted, Huawei does have quite a bit of bloat on it, BUT... It doesn't seem to have an impact on either battery life or speed of the phone for me. For me my P9 is my first phone which even after a good 5 months usage is still just as swift and fluid as the first day I got it. And everything just works.
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I am not saying it's a bad phone. It's a great phone, but the support is kinda poor. I am not rushing for the Nougat. I don't mind waiting if they will release a really stable version. Not happy that they are on the 1st beta and maybe this will be last and while most problems will be fixed, while they fix them most likely there will be a new one. And there is not a big improvement in Nougat. They could expand some things, make them better. It most of the time color change...
Don't mind the bloat too, I put all the stuff in a folder and forget they exist.
As I said the phone is great, but they could work a little better on the software.
The 3th beta got its firmware yesterday. You want to troll here, thats the point.
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The 3th beta got its firmware yesterday. You want to troll here, thats the point.
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Yeah. Have nothing else to do, decided to troll. Nowadays if you say something people disagree is trolling.
Here in Bulgaria - Beta 1. In the official beta thread no reports for another update, but you got 3.. Strange.
Well the P8 won't be updated due to the same reasons as the Xperia Z3 from Sony. The Kirin used in the sP8 simply is not compatible with Vulkan and therefore Googles Certification Process for Android 7. As this does not happen regularly, you should be able to see updates for your P9 for at least 2 years i guess.
MartinDimchev said:
FIRST: This is my own opinion. You may disagree with it!
My Reasons:
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P.S: Biggest deal breaker: Updates... !
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Are you invited for beta test? If not, what is the cust for bulgaria?
Why more betas than stable?
Better is to modify 6.0 and make a backup, if 7.0 got bugs in first global releases, then u can go back.
Why we need the same like other manufacture? Its enough now.
For every stuff have their pros / cons no one the best just find the one that fit for you, Huawei do good progress (not the best) and I dint see any new in software in other phone all are same / running on native Android ,you can go for non OEM firmware phone if need more software modification , but Huawei phone I think thay made for standard / daily driver like Apple...
Sounds like the op should have gone to Samsung, you are basically criticising the huawei because its not a samsung.....
I came from samsung and most of the things you point out as negatives are positives to me.
Placement of fingerprint scanner is perfect, touchwiz is awful and filled to the brim with bloat and ugly icons.
You complain about updates, just buy a samsung and see how long before you end up rooting it just so you can get an update or remove bloatware.
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Some of these points are valid, however, the software is as it is because Huawei is a Chinese brand. Huawei is huge in china, and in china, this software is what sells. And if you don't like the stock apps, just download new ones. If you don't like the launcher, download a new one. That is the beauty of android. There are points of EMUI that I don't like either, but most of them I was able to fix by downloading apps and customizing what I could in the settings.
Has somebody forced you to buy the Huawei? If you have bought the phone without acquiring some information before is your fault.
You knew about the update, the software and the pro a d cons, why are you complaining?
If you thought that the samsung was better than the Huawei why you bought it? Take a s7 edge and be happy.
You could install a Rom anyway
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Has somebody forced you to buy the Huawei? If you have bought the phone without acquiring some information before is your fault.
You knew about the update, the software and the pro a d cons, why are you complaining?
If you thought that the samsung was better than the Huawei why you bought it? Take a s7 edge and be happy.
You could install a Rom anyway
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How do you know how bad is a phone without using it at least for a month? Do they write the Cons in your country? Because here they don't. Yeah I will install a garage rom to fix my phone...
If I knew how bad this phone will be I was going to get the S7 without thinking twice...
I don't get people like you... Why don't you keep your pointless opinion for yourself. What, do only people with positive experience should write here? I am sharing my experience with this phone. And hope it will help to people who are thinking about getting this phone, thinking it's a great deal and great phone... I don't want people the give their money like me for something that's not worth it... If they read this and still want the phone at least they know some of the flaws and problems they may see and know they can live it it..
And why you shouldn't too!
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Nah, my next phone will definitely be from Huawei. I love it.
Huawei P9/P9 Plus Surpass 10 Million Shipments
http://consumer.huawei.com/en/press/news/hw-u_033702.htm
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Huawei P9/P9 Plus Surpass 10 Million Shipments
http://consumer.huawei.com/en/press/news/hw-u_033702.htm
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In most European countries after you buy a phone and open the box, you can't give it back or exchange for another brand.
And it's Shipment, not SOLD... Still it's a great phone, for most people who are not too much into phones or know what other phones can do or how often they are updated, or don't care about updates they would be very happy with this phone. I am happy most of the time while using it. Small things are ruing my usage and this is the problem, they are small, fixable but no one is fixing them.
MartinDimchev said:
In most European countries after you buy a phone and open the box, you can't give it back or exchange for another brand.
And it's Shipment, not SOLD... Still it's a great phone, for most people who are not too much into phones or know what other phones can do or how often they are updated, or don't care about updates they would be very happy with this phone. I am happy most of the time while using it. Small things are ruing my usage and this is the problem, they are small, fixable but no one is fixing them.
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Dont cry man if you want updates buy a Pixel
Bye!!
safariking said:
Dont cry man if you want updates buy a Pixel
Bye!!
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Hey man, if you don't want reading someone complaining about something cut the internet cable.
Bye!!!
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Hey man, if you don't want reading someone complaining about something cut the internet cable.
Bye!!!
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Internet cable doesn't fit in my phone so i cant cut it