haptic feedback? - G1 Android Development

i know that the g1 has haptic feed back (u can feel the button when u touch it like the verizon instinct) is there a way to turn it on

I dunno...
I posted a question about this a few weeks ago, got tons of views but nada 1 reply.
I guess you and me are the only 2 people in the world intrested in this feature, and hence since only 2 people care about it it doesn't have the feature?
Id say if it was in the exsisting firmware we'd of heard of it by now, I think it will have to be a 3rd part app.
I thought it was odd that my post got no replys, maybe I smelled funny that day?
bhang

Interested!
I too would love this feature.
It's obviously there as it shines through when you press and hold icons/widgets on the desktop to move them. Hope someone can figure it out.

2 motors
there are 2 motors in the g1 one is behind? or somewhere near the screen and another i think is located under the buttons and such so if they can be controlled independently of each other this could make for some very cool feedback, just thought Id throw this in...
bhang

bhang said:
there are 2 motors in the g1 one is behind? or somewhere near the screen and another i think is located under the buttons and such so if they can be controlled independently of each other this could make for some very cool feedback, just thought Id throw this in...
bhang
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Really? Wonder why they would have two motors...
Unless this was in the works at some point???

It wasn't just in the works, it's something that Google wants to use. It is a hard feature to implement, as different users will want different options (ie, some people would want it to only work for certain things like dialing, where others would want it to do it every time you touch the screen).

Id like to see screen presses, keyboard presses(just a tiny wiggle) and as configurable as possible like the above post mentioned, not just all on or all off, but at this point anything is better than no haptics.
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bhang said:
Id like to see screen presses, keyboard presses(just a tiny wiggle) and as configurable as possible like the above post mentioned, not just all on or all off, but at this point anything is better than no haptics.
bhang
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Google is afraid of making the options UI more bloated. This is very annoying, as it will cripple the device. I'm still predicting a fork of Android.

your probably right, but we have to wait and see
I'd say a fork will happen if tmob/goog/htc don't move fast enuff on upgrades, they can push out one quick when they figure out that if you girlfriends name is 'reboot' the fone will do so if u call her, so let's see rc31 with tons of upgrades come down even half that fast...
Id like to see the ratio of G1s rooted and non rooted, I wonder just how few there are with root.
Bhang

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Galaxy S Road SMS KB

OMG, I saw this video on that new app for the Galaxy S.
Is there a way to port it to the EVO?
Road SMS KB App on Galaxy S
saw it too, pretty sweet im def interested
Now thats an Interesting feature....
In for this.
That is brilliant.
That is sweet!!!
guessing its just goinna be an apk, direct install, but you never know..
that is sweet, we will have it before you know it. it will just be an apk I assume
Better yet, can we get it as a live wallpaper?
that app is cool. such a simple yet brilliant idea.
I like and wouldn't mind having it on our phone. BUT, when I text, I don't hold my phone in front of me. I usually have it down a bit lol. None the less I wouldn't mind seeing it on our phone
is ther ea keyboard like that in the market with just clear buttons, I would love to have that.
This is gonna drain battery like crazy, isn't it?
acrh2 said:
This is gonna drain battery like crazy, isn't it?
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Yes. Yes it is. My camera i by far the biggest drain on the battery (obviously only when it is used).
wrxlvr said:
Better yet, can we get it as a live wallpaper?
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You'd have to get a second battery just to get through the day.
Pretty [email protected] cool feature if you ask me.
Hopefully this will reduce the number of wrecks-while-texting, but then again I think to myself; "How many people will actually own this phone AND use this feature"
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I like and wouldn't mind having it on our phone. BUT, when I text, I don't hold my phone in front of me. I usually have it down a bit lol. None the less I wouldn't mind seeing it on our phone
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I think its meant to be used while driving so you can hold the phone up and still keep an eye on the road. Thats the only time that I'd ever use it. I dont text and drive often....but it sure would be helpful those times that I do it.
I'd be safer if I just called them though, LOL
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I think its meant to be used while driving so you can hold the phone up and still keep an eye on the road. Thats the only time that I'd ever use it. I dont text and drive often....but it sure would be helpful those times that I do it.
I'd be safer if I just called them though, LOL
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Samsung clarified that it is for pedestrians. Could you imagine the **** storm if they were encouraging driving and texting in any way?
Awesome!
Wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of some jerk that hit my car because he thought he could see the road in front of him using the Road SMS app lol
Unfortunately something tells me that what was once thought to be a good idea on Samsung's part, will eventually lead to lawsuits because of ignorant people

Improved Youtube with HQ

You may have seen my whining posts about the things that soured my captivate experience, and a big one was for some absurd reason (probably to eat up more data minutes) they made it show ****ty looking videos in the youtube player unless you navigate through a bunch of menus to make them HQ. See that way, you use more data.
Anyway, at least one thing is better because I put a youtube player from the Evo on there and it is a little bit better. Still not perfect because the stupid thing still shows low quality at first, but at least in this youtube there is a single HQ button on the player by the fast forward one touch and you've got HQ.
So I'll take that tiny victory, however shallow, over AT&T and Samsungs herculean efforts to f- up the nice chips, speaker, and screen on this device. Note I didn't say hardware because I'm not a fan of the case overall.
the player defaults to lower quality if youre not connected to wifi so you use less data and it loads quicker. this would be useful to people who have the 200 mb data plan. IIRC it was the same when i had an iphone 3g a couple years ago.
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You may have seen my whining posts about the things that soured my captivate experience, and a big one was for some absurd reason (probably to eat up more data minutes) they made it show ****ty looking videos in the youtube player unless you navigate through a bunch of menus to make them HQ. See that way, you use more data.
Anyway, at least one thing is better because I put a youtube player from the Evo on there and it is a little bit better. Still not perfect because the stupid thing still shows low quality at first, but at least in this youtube there is a single HQ button on the player by the fast forward one touch and you've got HQ.
So I'll take that tiny victory, however shallow, over AT&T and Samsungs herculean efforts to **** up this nice device.
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"a bunch of menus"? You tap the menu button, hit more, then HQ. It takes less than a second. I usually have it hit before the low-quality version is even buffered. Three taps is more than one, but it's not like they were asking you to do analytic geometry. Maybe I don't care because my fingers are fast, or because I have a grandfathered unlimited data plan.
As for their herculean efforts, if you don't use the AT&T/Samsung stuff, you don't notice any of it once you've rooted and enabled sideloading. At least I don't.
Mine defaults to high quality. Whenever I hit menu -> more the option in there always says "watch in low quality". I've checked several times because I was thinking the video looked pretty bad, but then I realized it was already in high quality mode.
My old HTC phone used to pick the quality based on available bandwidth. This type of functionality doesn't seem like it should be beyond google and samsung with their latest and greatest phone lol. Google owns youtube for god's sake.
this sounds like a troll post...
Didn't realize there were wars between android phones
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"a bunch of menus"? You tap the menu button, hit more, then HQ. It takes less than a second. I usually have it hit before the low-quality version is even buffered. Three taps is more than one, but it's not like they were asking you to do analytic geometry. Maybe I don't care because my fingers are fast, or because I have a grandfathered unlimited data plan.
As for their herculean efforts, if you don't use the AT&T/Samsung stuff, you don't notice any of it once you've rooted and enabled sideloading. At least I don't.
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What does sideloading do and how do I enable it. I too have an unlimited plan so I just want the best performance. I'm new to Android phones. I use to be a Nokia fan but got tired of waiting for the N8 or something nice from Nokia.
Not to Hi-jack this post but I'm open to any suggestions to make my Captivate a better user experience. So far I'm loving it !!
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What does sideloading do and how do I enable it. I too have an unlimited plan so I just want the best performance. I'm new to Android phones. I use to be a Nokia fan but got tired of waiting for the N8 or something nice from Nokia.
Not to Hi-jack this post but I'm open to any suggestions to make my Captivate a better user experience. So far I'm loving it !!
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There are, very nearly literally, a million threads on sideloading here. It means the ability to load apps not found in the Market--a feature AT&T disabled by default, without the ability to switch it in settings. Search for it, and you'll find how to enable it. Once it's enabled, you have the only real handicap AT&T put on the phone out of the way.
A few seconds
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That's enough time to ruin the video experience.
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As for their herculean efforts, if you don't use the AT&T/Samsung stuff, you don't notice any of it once you've rooted and enabled sideloading. At least I don't.
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I still notice the dialer. Isn't that still Samsung? It sucks compared to the Aria dialer.
You'd need to have actually used a sense device for a while to know what I mean, it's all about the cool predictive algorithm htc used, whereas the dialer on the captivate is no better than on my old Tilt (although a little faster, thank goodness, and I do appreciate the huge buttons)
Don't get me wrong, there are 5 good things about the captivate: The screen, the screen, the screen, the screen, and the speaker. And those 5 are enough to keep me interested.
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There are, very nearly literally, a million threads on sideloading here. It means the ability to load apps not found in the Market--a feature AT&T disabled by default, without the ability to switch it in settings. Search for it, and you'll find how to enable it. Once it's enabled, you have the only real handicap AT&T put on the phone out of the way.
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I can't find these threads regarding sideloading. Can anyone provide a link?
is there a way to trick youtube into thinking your on wifi so that it defaults to HQ.
I know on iphones theres "3g unrestrictor" is there something like that for android?
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I can't find these threads regarding sideloading. Can anyone provide a link?
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Dude, it's a sticky in the development forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=738376
5 different ways to sideload.
Also, in case you didn't even bother looking in the correct forum, there is a sticky in this forum right above this topic about how to sideload:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=735482
Next time search around before posting.

What are your thoughts on ICS?

Pretty amazing, is what I got out of it. Any comments or thoughts? What couldve been done better? Overall thoughts?
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My thoughts are im glad I got my TBOLT out of contract so I can buy the Galaxy Nexus with a 2 year plan =D
I like the look of it and I am very excited for when it gets to the T-Bolt. My only complaint is I don't agree that the on screen buttons are more useful than the capacative buttons we have. I also just prey to god they release the AOSP code soon because I WANT MOAR!
I didn't get to watch the video because of class, but from what I read from engadget's live blog, I am excited. Honestly, I am a little surprised that I didn't see it running (from the pictures mind you) on a tablet. The NFC sharing app is heaven sent for me. I just wish people would adopt it more. Maybe with Google backing it more, other people *cough* will start implementing into their devices.
I enjoyed watching the stream even though it was low quality. Overall ICS looks great, opens up so many doors to what can be done and will come. SDK released tonight. Be nice when the full source is out so the Devs can start cooking..
I agree with muerteman about the buttons. I like the buttons on the bottom and not all on screen..
The people app reminded me of windows phone, and the swipe to remove items from the screen reminded me of webos. I really like the swipe feature on my touchpad, so that makes me happy to see it coming to ICS.
I can't wait for this device! My wife is probably taking my TBolt and I'm buying the Nexus off contract! ICS looks load nicer than GB that's for sure!
it was especially great that i was watching via my tbolt in my car dock while driving to work, and almost crashed when they I saw them going into "oh yes, facial recognition lockscreen"
Oh and P.S. I posted the Roboto font from ICS in the TBolt Themes & Apps section if you want it! It's quite nice!
Yea idk about the lockscreen thing. I'd be worried about what happened at the presentation. That for some reason my phone wouldnt recognize me. There better be some password backup (which I am sure google has thought of), or alot of people will be really mad. I want Tbolt ICS, im so giddy to try it out these next few weeks before the source drops will be torture. Atleast they confirmed they will open source this though, won't be anything like trying to get Honeycomb on the G-Tablet. Hmm, speaking of that I can't wait to see what this does with tablets. Hopefully I'll be running in on my tablet and my thunderbolt before the end of next month. Sorry for the long winded post, my mind is running while I lay in bed unable to fall asleep.
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Yea idk about the lockscreen thing. I'd be worried about what happened at the presentation. That for some reason my phone wouldnt recognize me. There better be some password backup (which I am sure google has thought of), or alot of people will be really mad. I want Tbolt ICS, im so giddy to try it out these next few weeks before the source drops will be torture. Atleast they confirmed they will open source this though, won't be anything like trying to get Honeycomb on the G-Tablet. Hmm, speaking of that I can't wait to see what this does with tablets. Hopefully I'll be running in on my tablet and my thunderbolt before the end of next month. Sorry for the long winded post, my mind is running while I lay in bed unable to fall asleep.
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agreed it does look to have its flaws, but it really makes me excited to see alot of the same actions i know and love from my tab 10.1 being done on a smaller faster and better scale
I LOOOOOOVED ICS and i cant wait to get it on my TBOLT!!!! and i cant wait to sell my TBOLT and buy myself that nexus!!!!
I watched the YouTube stream, and when it didn't recognize his face it switched to the pattern unlock before they cut away. So there IS a fall back. This is my next has a video up showing it, it looks great and seems very quick.
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agreed it does look to have its flaws, but it really makes me excited to see alot of the same actions i know and love from my tab 10.1 being done on a smaller faster and better scale
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Check Engadget they posted a video saying it actually works really well and extemely quickly. You also choose pin pattern or password as a backup =)
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What I worry about is how secure is it to have the notification drawer slide down when the phone is locked still. I don't remember if they said the phone stayed locked after tapping on a notification or not.
It would make sense that if the phone was locked and you slid open the drawer, tapped on a notification, and then hit back or home, it should bring you right back to the lock screen.
Shoot I have my TB all packed up and ready to ship once its sold on ebay. Nexus and ICS, here I come

T-mobile plans to ax MT4GS and other phones

http://androidandme.com/2012/01/news/t-mobile-puts-six-android-phones-on-the-chopping-block/
Less than a year and they are talking of Cutting models?!
Nearing, not at, so who knows how long that will drag on.
They must have something coming up their sleeves, we'll see what happens.
Whatever it is, i'm with this device for a while to come. I got some nuts to crack with development for it, and i've picked this one to stop and learn all the ins-and-outs of Android on.
The Achilles heel of this device is the lack of internal storage, (battery aside) to me it's where the ball got dropped on this one. With the 16/32 gig internal available on releasing models, that's a significant difference, and probably skews the playing field a bit.
Speaking of field, the near field technology deal is another thing that's being released that T-Mo might be trying to get devices with and capitalize on. Since Verizon dropped the ball by putting a blockage between the tech and Google Wallet (which, really, is what makes it work for point of sale payments) I can see other carriers trying to get in on it like Sprint did to distinguish themselves from #1 by offering a service they don't.
Dunno, it's really all speculation at this point in the game, but i'm with this one for the long haul. The longer I stick with this one, the quicker/easier it'll be to transition to another and i'll probably be able to pull my ROMs forward to whatever the next good hardware keyboard device is.
(really, after learning all the shortcut keys for the hardware buttons, how could you not have that?? It's like trying to type on a real computer wearing mittens without them.)
This makes me mad, but really, we don't know what exactly this means. I wish more people would have realized what an awesome phone this is.
wth? this makes no sense at all... i could see them discontinuing silders (although not liking the idea) but seeing sensation amaze and the mid/low end LG models too makes me wonder.
perhaps they are the least popular ones? sounds kinda weird tho
Yeah, sensation was/is very popular.... Amaze literally just came out. it's a beast... Dub tee eff
Just my spare change.
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Nearing, not at, so who knows how long that will drag on.
They must have something coming up their sleeves, we'll see what happens.
Whatever it is, i'm with this device for a while to come. I got some nuts to crack with development for it, and i've picked this one to stop and learn all the ins-and-outs of Android on.
The Achilles heel of this device is the lack of internal storage, (battery aside) to me it's where the ball got dropped on this one. With the 16/32 gig internal available on releasing models, that's a significant difference, and probably skews the playing field a bit.
Speaking of field, the near field technology deal is another thing that's being released that T-Mo might be trying to get devices with and capitalize on. Since Verizon dropped the ball by putting a blockage between the tech and Google Wallet (which, really, is what makes it work for point of sale payments) I can see other carriers trying to get in on it like Sprint did to distinguish themselves from #1 by offering a service they don't.
Dunno, it's really all speculation at this point in the game, but i'm with this one for the long haul. The longer I stick with this one, the quicker/easier it'll be to transition to another and i'll probably be able to pull my ROMs forward to whatever the next good hardware keyboard device is.
(really, after learning all the shortcut keys for the hardware buttons, how could you not have that?? It's like trying to type on a real computer wearing mittens without them.)
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Have you read up on mtd any? Something I was noticing as well, although its not like I've gone anywhere near limits of this device... And I'm with u unless they drop a 5" keyboard device... Like a samsung epic note.... Would switch back to samsunk then.
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mtd?
Could you expand on that a bit? I skipped sleep yet again, last night, and it's just not clicking right now.
I spent the last couple of hours browsing over the forums here in our little corner of XDA. I didn't really have the head to get any work done, and so much has happened that i've missed recently. Taking a few hours to just browse around and read this or that and catch up a little bit has been helpful.
There was a time not too long ago where i'd read every post in the MT4GS forums, most multiple times. Just a few weeks float by and now there's so much I have to catch up on, there are still a few topics I need to spend some time wrapping my head around.
I'd love to spend a day just reading up on and playing with MR. Root, the download mode thread, and the various Hboot threads to just soak them all in together and see where I could help out. Then i'd love to build on that by taking a good long look at the string of OTA updates and see what it'll take to crack the latest un-rootable roadblock we got tossed. Maybe pick up something along the way to add to it all.
I dunno, at the moment sleep deprived and just a tad overwhelmed by the amount of information here I haven't had the chance to soak in yet, and all the stuff i'm trying to roll out for my ROM - and i've got a lot of threads that are getting out of date that need to be brought current, added to and finished.
This little floating session has kinda given me a good handle on what I need to do to make progress in all the aforementioned areas though, so when I sit down I can just get started instead of trying to figure out what i'm doing.
Kinda useless right this very moment, but that's okay because I got 11 minutes before I have to walk out the door. I'll turn all this over in my head during the day, and hit the ground running when I get to steal some time tonight.
Meantime, what's mtd? lmao
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Have you read up on mtd any? Something I was noticing as well, although its not like I've gone anywhere near limits of this device... And I'm with u unless they drop a 5" keyboard device... Like a samsung epic note.... Would switch back to samsunk then.
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Agreed.
The problem is, at least in my opinion, high end devices with QWERTY keyboards are really rare. If you look at TMob's lineup, they've got the Sidekick 4G, the Cliq2, the gravity smart, the MTQ, and the MT4GS. Only the 4GS is really a high end device, with the rest either being mid-tier, or really crappy.
What's really sad is that the only other carrier who seems to have a decent variety of QWERTY androids is Verizon. Sprint and AT&T don't seem that interested (although AT&T has the captivate glide (which is about the level of the Cliq2, IMO), and I think the general perception is that QWERTY devices are for entry level texters.
I didn't meant to go off on a tangent, but I think the MT4GS, discontinued or not, is going to be the only option for QWERTY lovers for a while. I am hoping we see a MT5GS after a while, but the fact that LG seems to be making MT devices concerns me. Maybe the MT4GS was the last hurrah of the line.
I can see them getting chopped up and divided amongst the other carriers. Maybe they're getting ready for that?
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Meantime, what's mtd? lmao
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MTD as i remember it from the G1 and the MT3GS is the ability to grow and shrink partitions. Using a flashable .zip and a .txt file on the Sdcard, for example, we were able to grow the data partition at the cost of cache and system (good if we were using an AOSP rom like Cyanogenmod).
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Ah nice - thanks. Now that you jog my memory, that was brought up in a thread around here sometime not long ago.
Think it was a thread about app 2 sd? Not sure - thanks for the clarification
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Ah nice - thanks. Now that you jog my memory, that was brought up in a thread around here sometime not long ago.
Think it was a thread about app 2 sd? Not sure - thanks for the clarification
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Glad my bad explaining can help the community XD
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Glad my bad explaining can help the community XD
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Nah, you did great, and that's about as much as I know about it anyways so it put it in a frame of reference for me which was exactly what I needed
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Nah, not really - and intentionally so actually. In my quest to make Bulletproof be as stable as possible this is something that would throw a monkey wrench in my work at this time.
In the future it's on the list, because i'm ending up with internal space that is essentially wasted, and this probably the best way to reclaim that and make it usable.
I'm a little jealous of all the knowledge most of you have from having Android phones before - stuff like this you just know about, whereas i'd have to actively look for it unless someone mentions it off-hand, and it's hard to look for things you don't know exist.
That only means they're going to stop selling it. Look at the G2. They declared its end of life eight months after it first went on the market.
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That only means they're going to stop selling it. Look at the G2. They declared its end of life eight months after it first went on the market.
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And I used mine well past that point.
Just my spare change.
mt4gs is just a plain good phone with its camera and dual core. Its still sized as a phone should be in my book. We have true ICS working, sense ics working, and a good heap of feature complete GB roms as well... So if they dont produce something unprecedented in the mobile camera business in the following year, its a keeper anyway... i even ordered it from here europe to enjoy this amazing phone. I say get while you still can...lol
i think i figured out why t-mobile would want to do this.
the chances are that new phones with S4 snapdragons are around the corner (MWC) and with them being 28nm SoCs the battery life will be dramatically improved, which to be fair is the real downside of current phones...
still, it's very very sad to see a phone discontinued after just few months
Looks like the rumors of the mT4GS' demise were exaggerated. Looks like it was a fat finger error. There is still life for this great phone. Nothing to see here move along.
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hmm well, sell through is not good either, just means a few more months to go before eol
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MTD as i remember it from the G1 and the MT3GS is the ability to grow and shrink partitions. Using a flashable .zip and a .txt file on the Sdcard, for example, we were able to grow the data partition at the cost of cache and system (good if we were using an AOSP rom like Cyanogenmod).
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MTD is an acronym for Memory Technology Device. It describes the CLASS OF STORAGE NAND hardware, and the driver infrastructure in the Linux kernel that was responsible for managing it.
Those scripts that you remember using were manipulating the default kernel command line, in order to feed a customized PARTITION TABLE into the MTD DRIVER, rather than the "fixed" one stored within the hardware's SPL.
This does not apply to Doubleshot, since Doubleshot uses an eMMC instead, though there may be similar approaches to feeding the eMMC driver a custom partition table.
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Blue6IX said:
The Achilles heel of this device is the lack of internal storage, (battery aside) to me it's where the ball got dropped on this one. With the 16/32 gig internal available on releasing models, that's a significant difference, and probably skews the playing field a bit.
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Don't most of those 16/32 GB internal storage devices LACK an sdcard slot? If so, then Doubleshot has a potential for up to 34 GB storage, which is 2 GB more than a 32 GB device...

is no one concern about the edge sense failure in the announcement?

I saw the phone's announcement, and in my opinion they should never let Charlie Chang present a phones again.
It was one of the most awkward announcements I watched. He looked like he is going to explode, and every feature he presented it looked like he is praying to god that it will work.
but that's one thing.
during the presentation he tried to activate google assistant through the Edge Sense, and it didn't work, then he tried again and it failed again, then he made the most awkward "ooopss" he could make, while trying again couple of times until he continued presenting the google assistant without mentioning or talking about the incident (which is understandable but still troubling).
the weirdest thing is that I can't find any review or post that talks about it, I thought the press will destroy Htc for this screw up.
for me it's really troubling, this gimmick can be nice, but it's the first time we see something like this on any phone and I have doubts about its quality.
what do you think?
Meh, to say that I've never had stuff like that happen on any phone I've owned would be a huge understatement.
Had a unit in hand to test it one week ahead of the official announcement. On my test unit the Edge Sense worked really good, after getting accustomed after the first 30 Minutes and configuring it to my pressure sensitivity in settings.
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Jeah some other people already tried Edge Sense and said something similar like @5m4r7ph0n36uru said. Its working okay or good - better then many expected. But for me its just a nice to have. Lets see how much they can improve this feature with future Software updates. Maybe its just a feature that ends up being a public prototype which would also be okay. If this feature is any good they will probably improve the hardware behind it in a future device.
I mean its the same with the fingerprint scanners, the first and even second version in the iPhone was quite bad in my opinion. The one in the 6s is good, but the ones before where too slow and the failure rate was too high (for me).
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I saw the phone's announcement, and in my opinion they should never let Charlie Chang present a phones again.
It was one of the most awkward announcements I watched. He looked like he is going to explode, and every feature he presented it looked like he is praying to god that it will work.
but that's one thing.
during the presentation he tried to activate google assistant through the Edge Sense, and it didn't work, then he tried again and it failed again, then he made the most awkward "ooopss" he could make, while trying again couple of times until he continued presenting the google assistant without mentioning or talking about the incident (which is understandable but still troubling).
the weirdest thing is that I can't find any review or post that talks about it, I thought the press will destroy Htc for this screw up.
for me it's really troubling, this gimmick can be nice, but it's the first time we see something like this on any phone and I have doubts about its quality.
what do you think?
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I wouldn't read too much into it - could be nerves, could be the phone wasn't set up properly for him, old software, etc.
Microsoft launched a version of windows (I think it might have been Win98) and during the launch they encountered the Blue Screen Of Death... it didn't seem to have much impact on their future!
I'm not too worried. If it doesn't work well I will just disable it. The phone is still nice.
Entrail said:
Jeah some other people already tried Edge Sense and said something similar like @5m4r7ph0n36uru said. Its working okay or good - better then many expected. But for me its just a nice to have. Lets see how much they can improve this feature with future Software updates. Maybe its just a feature that ends up being a public prototype which would also be okay. If this feature is any good they will probably improve the hardware behind it in a future device.
I mean its the same with the fingerprint scanners, the first and even second version in the iPhone was quite bad in my opinion. The one in the 6s is good, but the ones before where too slow and the failure rate was too high (for me).
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They will update it. As HTC told in the same briefing, they are already planing to implement Double-Tab as a possibility to take further actions with Edge Sense, though they couldn't tell the date at this time but only that it is on the list. So I guess they are definitely planing to implement more gestures by such a step making short press, long press and double press available. With two different force settings, this would give us six gestures in total to configure for separate actions.
Something further is App based actions that'll be implemented to change the action resulting from a short press depending on the App you're using.
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I saw reviews. it works pretty well.
5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
They will update it. As HTC told in the same briefing, they are already planing to implement Double-Tab as a possibility to take further actions with Edge Sense, though they couldn't tell the date at this time but only that it is on the list. So I guess they are definitely planing to implement more gestures by such a step making short press, long press and double press available. With two different force settings, this would give us six gestures in total to configure for separate actions.
Something further is App based actions that'll be implemented to change the action resulting from a short press depending on the App you're using.
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I hope so and i am sure they will but all I'm saying is that the hardware will be limited like i said with the fingerprint or another example the pressure sensitivity from the surface pen. In the first iterations it only had 256 different steps now they have around 2000. (not sure about the exact numbers here )
My hope is not too big about this squeeze feature in the first iteration but i am curious and will give it a try.
liorderei said:
I saw the phone's announcement, and in my opinion they should never let Charlie Chang present a phones again.
It was one of the most awkward announcements I watched. He looked like he is going to explode, and every feature he presented it looked like he is praying to god that it will work.
but that's one thing.
during the presentation he tried to activate google assistant through the Edge Sense, and it didn't work, then he tried again and it failed again, then he made the most awkward "ooopss" he could make, while trying again couple of times until he continued presenting the google assistant without mentioning or talking about the incident (which is understandable but still troubling).
the weirdest thing is that I can't find any review or post that talks about it, I thought the press will destroy Htc for this screw up.
for me it's really troubling, this gimmick can be nice, but it's the first time we see something like this on any phone and I have doubts about its quality.
what do you think?
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I thought the same Totally agreed with you... But I'm still buying the phone.. I hope after 1-2 updates it will work better.
I am lucky I wasn't in his shoes. Very awkward indeed. His hands were shaking.
I don't think it will damage sales. And in a live event anything can happen.
I don't think it even had to do with edge sense TBH... I think it had to do with the assistant apps themselves and probably the internet connection within the venue.
Mine works well do far. I just need to remember about it. I've left it starting the camera and it's good.
Honestly, I was hoping the edge sense would have worked just as the early videos showed of a couple walking the street and navigating the app drawer with the edge. Maybe version 2. But that was sick!
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mbaseball3 said:
Honestly, I was hoping the edge sense would have worked just as the early videos showed of a couple walking the street and navigating the app drawer with the edge. Maybe version 2. But that was sick!
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Can't say I've every been walking the street and needed to navigate the app draw. I have shortcuts for everything already. Actually only time I navigate the app draw is when I'm adding a shortcut lol. But I see what you saying. Maybe if they added volume up down or scrolling, but don't think that's how it works.
well... it would probably have worked better if she took them off..

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