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What differentiates an Asus ROM?

I keep hearing about how when you pick a ROM, you need to decide on either vanilla ICS or the Asus flavor.
What things does the Asus ROMs have that Megatron and AOKP doesn't? Is it just the couple widgets/apps/wallpapers that you can download separately anyway or is there more to it?
Thanks for your input!

dman918 said:
I keep hearing about how when you pick a ROM, you need to decide on either vanilla ICS or the Asus flavor.
What things does the Asus ROMs have that Megatron and AOKP doesn't? Is it just the couple widgets/apps/wallpapers that you can download separately anyway or is there more to it?
Thanks for your input!
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The Asus based ROMs (I know of the two big ones, Revolver and Revolution HD) don't offer as many extras as the other ROMs that have e.g. a CM9 base. They may be a bit more stable, and they are not really different from the stock ROM (at least in terms of look and feel). What is unique: they have the original Asus customized settings, so they allow to Mao the mouse buttons, and have the extended notification area (both not present in stock ICS ROMs).
If you want to have the best of both worlds, I'd recommend the Megatron ROM which has a great set of nice options and tweaks (more than the standard Cyanogenmod tweaks), and also let you choose between ICS and Asus virtual buttons, and give you the Asus keyboard and the option to install Polaris Office, supernote, their live wallpaper and widgets...).

I loaded Revolver on mine and at first appearance, it looks basically the same. But as you use it, everything is smoother and faster. I went one step further and loaded a custom kernel by Guevor which made it smoother and faster yet. These 2 together have completely changed how I view & use my TF. Some people have had good results just by loading a custom kernel on the stock rom too. I would do a bit of reading through the forum to see what might work for you. Not every one has had good success when going the custom route, so do some digging and try to get all your questions answered before you start hacking.

You just lose a few ASUS customized settings, but you gain the AOSP settings, I like AOSP better, but some just don't like the feel:
E.G. Sense vs TouchWiz vs AOSP vs ??? vs Profit

Gummy ROM (nightlies) is my favorite AOSP rom so far. It's an AOSP rom with some features from CM9, some from AOKP, some of their own and some Asus stuff. Its the best of all the worlds.

Theres a link to my rom videos in my signature if it helps.
My 2 chosen roms are:
Asus based: Frozn by Jcarrz1 - theres a couple of little bugs and although its not fully completed, combine it with one of the overclock kernels and the speed is on a different level.
I posted up how to set it up in the Frozn thread. Hopefully Jcarrz is still working on Frozn as im sure if it turns out like Krakd then it will be sublime!. If its too much hassle then - Revolver for sure.
Aosp / Aokp: No question it would have to be Gummy nightly. Browsing speed is much faster imo than any of the TF roms, nice tweeks, the devs baked in some themes, stable.....it really is a must try. You also get the delight of the nyam cat but i wont spoil it for you. All i will say is you can switch it off in Gummy settings :victory:
Good for flashaholics with it getting almost nightly updates.
Everyones different and theres a rom for everyone.
Just make sure your backed up and read about how to get out of a pickle. Otherwise just give them all a go and see what you like.:good:

You may need to flash one of the Asus ones to get any updated firmware for the keyboard. I.m not sure the aosp ones will do that.
Sent from my XT910 using Tapatalk 2

Gummy has my attention. Does each update require a full wipe or just cache and dalvik? I do not want to have to do full wipes all the time.
I know I will most likely need to try all of these and see what I like most, but I'd prefer to have a good base to start from.
I pretty much only surf the web, get email, stupid stuff like that. Not really much for games outside of Draw Something, Hanging with Friends. Looking for a ROM that is "pretty" or "flashy". Needs to look good, flow quickly and smoothly when I use it, and is customizable so I can make it the way I want.

dman918 said:
Gummy has my attention. Does each update require a full wipe or just cache and dalvik? I do not want to have to do full wipes all the time.
I know I will most likely need to try all of these and see what I like most, but I'd prefer to have a good base to start from.
I pretty much only surf the web, get email, stupid stuff like that. Not really much for games outside of Draw Something, Hanging with Friends. Looking for a ROM that is "pretty" or "flashy". Needs to look good, flow quickly and smoothly when I use it, and is customizable so I can make it the way I want.
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with nightlies i think just wiping dalvik and cache will be fine
here is another rom to check out AOKPCB
looks really fancy basically is AOKP but themed. Haven't tried it yet though.
Im also in a situation on which rom to just stick with. Right now im using revolver because its based on stock firmware but i'm missing some AOSP. Was running Megatron a while back for a long time but i need a rom that gets updated every now and then.

Kinda feels like Megatron is laggier than the Asus ROMs. Anyone else find this? I did do a full wipe. Also, is there a way to increase the auto brightness value? It is awfully dim.
Otherwise, it is a great mix to get really everything that both variants have to offer. Really only missing the pretty power screen but everything else (and more) is there.
One hour later edit: This ROM is definitely laggy. I press to go into the menu and it's jerky. Really everything is... jerky. Ran a benchmark and had a good score (3200+) but the navigation throughout isn't fluid.

dman918 said:
Kinda feels like Megatron is laggier than the Asus ROMs. Anyone else find this? I did do a full wipe. Also, is there a way to increase the auto brightness value? It is awfully dim.
Otherwise, it is a great mix to get really everything that both variants have to offer. Really only missing the pretty power screen but everything else (and more) is there.
One hour later edit: This ROM is definitely laggy. I press to go into the menu and it's jerky. Really everything is... jerky. Ran a benchmark and had a good score (3200+) but the navigation throughout isn't fluid.
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I am also getting lags on all aosp roms that I have tried so far. I am on a B70.

Valbowski said:
I am also getting lags on all aosp roms that I have tried so far. I am on a B70.
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I have a B70 running Steel Droid v2. It's an AOKP based rom and I'm not having any lag issues. It might not necessarily be a hardware thing. Have you tried a custom kernel that you can overclock? I keep it oc'd at 1200MHz because I, personally, haven't seen a noticeable difference when I set it at a higher frequency.
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New observation
I tried both Harmony v3 for aosp and Guevor 22.6 and get the same issues. I tried the new aokp Milestone 6 with both guevor 22.6 for aokp and Harmony aosp v3 but still get bad framerates in many games. One new observation from tonight: In the game "Siege Hero", if the option "Stretch to fill screen" is selected, I get bad framerates but great graphics. If I select "Zoom to fill screen", graphics are low res but everything is very fluid. This does not happen on asus based roms.
Another example of what I am getting is the game "Extreme skater" that does not offer compatibility choices, probably because it supports native resolution, but rarely stays fluid on aokp/cm9/aosp but runs great on asus based roms.
It looks like some other users are getting the same problems but we are not a lot complaining.
Any ideas?
I am on a B70KAS... TF101.

Which ROM to apply

Hello everyone,
First let me say that I am a noob at this so please be patient with my inquiry. I have applied custom rom on a Coby Kryos 7042, but those are for my kids... And I'm not overly impressed with what that got me, but like I said, those tabs are for my kids.
The purpose of this topic is find out what ROM I should flash to my stock TF300t.
There are numerous ROMs on this board and I cant determine which one to apply.
I'm not a serious gamer, so selecting a ROM because it makes games run faster/smoother is of no use for me.
This is what I would like to see from a custom rom...
Make my overall experience better with the TF300t. I'm not complaining about the TF300t, so far I love it. Can it be better? Probably.
Can a custom ROM make the transistions from page/screen to page/screen faster? If so, which ROM?
Can a custom ROM increase my WIFI range of the TF300, if the TF300 wifi range is not fully utilized? I hope that made sense.
Which ROM on this board is close to error/bug free?
If I apply a custom ROM will I be able to use JB when ASUS releases it?
I'm not asking who is the 'best' at creating a custom ROM, for that is subjective. I just want some help picking out a good one for me.
I've already rooted my 300 and I've downloaded the unlock boot tool from ASUS, but I havent unlocked the tab yet.
TIA,
B

bflatmajor said:
Hello everyone,
First let me say that I am a noob at this so please be patient with my inquiry. I have applied custom rom on a Coby Kryos 7042, but those are for my kids... And I'm not overly impressed with what that got me, but like I said, those tabs are for my kids.
The purpose of this topic is find out what ROM I should flash to my stock TF300t.
There are numerous ROMs on this board and I cant determine which one to apply.
I'm not a serious gamer, so selecting a ROM because it makes games run faster/smoother is of no use for me.
This is what I would like to see from a custom rom...
Make my overall experience better with the TF300t. I'm not complaining about the TF300t, so far I love it. Can it be better? Probably.
Can a custom ROM make the transistions from page/screen to page/screen faster? If so, which ROM?
Can a custom ROM increase my WIFI range of the TF300, if the TF300 wifi range is not fully utilized? I hope that made sense.
Which ROM on this board is close to error/bug free?
If I apply a custom ROM will I be able to use JB when ASUS releases it?
I'm not asking who is the 'best' at creating a custom ROM, for that is subjective. I just want some help picking out a good one for me.
I've already rooted my 300 and I've downloaded the unlock boot tool from ASUS, but I havent unlocked the tab yet.
TIA,
B
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Dont unlock it
You can get JB officially within a month... Would be semi pointless to put a custom rom on so close to Jelly Bean being released for the TF300T

If you've only just bought the tab, I would recommend not unlocking it yet - make sure there are no defects before you unlock as this will void your warranty. Once you're happy with it, go for it

I plan to wait for the official release of Jelly Bean before I unlock. If I dont like the offcial release I will unlock and try a custom ROM.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF300T using xda premium

ncguy68 said:
I plan to wait for the official release of Jelly Bean before I unlock. If I dont like the offcial release I will unlock and try a custom ROM.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF300T using xda premium
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doing the same :laugh:

Like some of the other posters I would not unlock so soon especially if you are satisfied with the performance. I waited until after my 30 period return window before I unlocked. However, I can only speak for one from since it is the only from that I have tried on this device. Seanz hydro ponic rom is fantastic and I am completely satisfied with it. I have run cm9 and aokp on other devices and if you like customization these are pretty good.

toxicdust said:
Dont unlock it
You can get JB officially within a month... Would be semi pointless to put a custom rom on so close to Jelly Bean being released for the TF300T
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Link?

bflatmajor said:
Hello everyone,
First let me say that I am a noob at this so please be patient with my inquiry. I have applied custom rom on a Coby Kryos 7042, but those are for my kids... And I'm not overly impressed with what that got me, but like I said, those tabs are for my kids.
The purpose of this topic is find out what ROM I should flash to my stock TF300t.
There are numerous ROMs on this board and I cant determine which one to apply.
I'm not a serious gamer, so selecting a ROM because it makes games run faster/smoother is of no use for me.
This is what I would like to see from a custom rom...
Make my overall experience better with the TF300t. I'm not complaining about the TF300t, so far I love it. Can it be better? Probably.
Can a custom ROM make the transistions from page/screen to page/screen faster? If so, which ROM?
Can a custom ROM increase my WIFI range of the TF300, if the TF300 wifi range is not fully utilized? I hope that made sense.
Which ROM on this board is close to error/bug free?
If I apply a custom ROM will I be able to use JB when ASUS releases it?
I'm not asking who is the 'best' at creating a custom ROM, for that is subjective. I just want some help picking out a good one for me.
I've already rooted my 300 and I've downloaded the unlock boot tool from ASUS, but I havent unlocked the tab yet.
TIA,
B
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since no one actually answered your questions....here we go.
make the experience better? usually custom ROMs get rid of all the bloat and un-necessary stuff inside the OS. this usually speeds it up a bit...it may be noticable it may not. they also usually throw in some tweaks and customization. i am going to take AOKP for instance....since i am very familiar with that.
it allows for overclocking and undervolting, custom toggles in the notification area, custom shortcuts from the lock screen, adding buttons to the bottom navigation bar and changing their colors and icons and the later ones have a theme engine built in so changing the entire look of the tab is as easy as downloading an app and hitting a button.
make the home screen transitions faster.....usually custom ROMs ditch the stock launcher in favor of a custom one (nova, apex, or trebuchet) all of these have a setting in which you can tweak the transition speed as well as pretty much anything else you want to change. nova launcher and apex launcher (my personal fav) are downloadable and install-able from the play store.
increase wifi range? this one i am not sure of...i haven't really looked into it since i am pretty happy with my range, but i would guess that they don't increase wifi range.
bug free? anything based off stock will be good...however, these are custom ROMs with not much testing...there will be bugs...some you my notice, others you may not....its just the name of the game. i usually dont notice any myself until others point them out. it still doesn't bother me...AOKPs customizations and tweaks outweigh the small bugs here an there....IMO.
use official JB OTA...yes i believe you can download and flash an official OTA that you can get from asus' site...someone correct me if i am wrong.
so there you go. you can make your decision from that...but like others have said, it may be a good idea to hold off unlocking for a bit. if you absolutely cannot live without some of the customizations of say...AOKP, go ahead and flash away....but if slapping on a custom launcher and speeding up that screen transition is enough, just do that and hold off until official JB is pushed to us....that is my plan....at least for the time being (CM10 is making it hard to pass up though )

For the sake of answering the question I will go against previous posts and suggest that you unlock and flash a rom. Make a backup of your stock rom before flashing and then you can always revert back and manually update to JB when it arrives...or wait a few days after it's released for a JB based rom. Until that time I suggest flashing Asus-Hydro. It has all the stock features, is bug free as far as I can tell, and adds noticeable speed to the tf300. Not sure if it improves wifi distance, but it definitely speeds up homescreen transitions and greatly improves browser performance.
Make backups, follow instructions, and enjoy.

10010110 said:
Link?
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If you took the time to read any of the other threads relating to JB you would have maybe come across a section on XDA that referred to "Tablets that will get JB 4.1"
In that thread there was a link that pointed to a reliable tech review site that got a official answer from Asus stating "Asus has build a reputation of being 1st and we don't want to disappoint our users"
That being said JB 4.1 is officially launched mid-July that is currently ... wow ... Now!
Asus will be quick on the official release to update their Tablets as they clearly stated by "We have a Reputation of being 1st"
So there is nothing officially stated if that's what you were looking for but within a month is my best estimate taking into consideration their track record for updates.

Root and leave Stock ICS .27 for something more stable: recommendations?

I realize this posting is going to be asking a lot of questions but I hope the thread will be helpful to everyone suffering with the awful ICS update series on the ASUS TF101. So please: if you have specific knowledge and experience, think of the large community of suffering TF101 owners and help them remedy the problem. Because it is apparent that ASUS has abandoned us.
BACKGROUND
I have a TF101 and I am disgusted with how badly ASUS has handled the development/testing/rollout of ICS. There's no point in being fast to market if you're going to put out crap that destabilizes your hardware!
- If I only had the easy choice of keeping the latest OTA (at the moment .27) or returning to Honeycomb, I would do the latter. It didn't crash. And it responded crisply to touches. But part of ASUS idiocy is not providing a backwards migration path even though they have ample evidence that they have a shoddy ICS ROM.
I realize, before asking, that there are a lot of combinations and permutations to what you folks might recommend. But let me help you to understand what I am seeking at the end of the migration:
First off about me: I have prior experience rooting and replacing ROM's. (Nexus One now runs CM 7.1. Samsung Galaxy Tab 7" GT-P1000 now running CM9.) But I would not describe myself as an experienced or confident person-- I suppose it would help if all Android devices used the same tools and procedures for performing the migration.
Bottom Line: I am capable of following instructions and I am comfortable with CWM flashing once I have a rooted device with CWM.
My criteria:
Stability:
I want highest possible stability- I am realistic; I realize that the ASUS TF101 is already cursed. But I would settle for one crash every couple of days.
Smooth performance:
Under .27 stock, there is a ridiculously slow response to touch events. My single core first generation Samsung 7" performs faster!
Ungimmicky:
I don't need flashy special features built into the ROM. I'd be happy with something that stays reasonably close to the vanilla Android ICS experience.
(If it helps, I am fairly pleased with the CM9 implementation on my ancient Samsung 7".)
What I Use TF101 For:
- Slingplayer Mobile
- Video files (.avi, .mp4, .mpg, .flv, .mkv)
- Reading: PressReader, Pulse, Flipboard
- Occasionally using an Office-type suite and/or Google Drive docs
What I Don't Want or Need
- Games
- ASUS "value added" bloatware apps
Questions:
- What are the important differences between the various CM9 implementations?
I see there are at least two CM9 implementations for the TF101. (Which may or may not be the same as the one posted at the CyanogenMod site:
http://get.cm/?device=tf101&type=stable
- I have done some reading about Revolver and Overcome. But I am not sure whether these are a better choice than CM9. Are they more reliable because they are based on the stock ROM?
(Remember that I don't want or need any ASUS apps.)
- So let's start with the important question: based on my needs and desire for a quick move to a rooted, stable, ICS TF101, which ROM should I use?
- Which kernel and version number should I flash to accompany that particular ROM?
- Is there a guide (either here on XDA or elsewhere) that will take me from stock, unrooted ICS .27 to installing CWM?
- A bonus would be if it took me all the way to flashing the final ROM, but this is not essential
One last point: I already understand the idea that CWM would let me try out various ROMs. And I am comfortable doing that if I am not happy with my first choice.
Thanks in advance, everyone!

goattee said:
I realize this posting is going to be asking a lot of questions but I hope the thread will be helpful to everyone suffering with the awful ICS update series on the ASUS TF101. So please: if you have specific knowledge and experience, think of the large community of suffering TF101 owners and help them remedy the problem. Because it is apparent that ASUS has abandoned us.
BACKGROUND
I have a TF101 and I am disgusted with how badly ASUS has handled the development/testing/rollout of ICS. There's no point in being fast to market if you're going to put out crap that destabilizes your hardware!
- If I only had the easy choice of keeping the latest OTA (at the moment .27) or returning to Honeycomb, I would do the latter. It didn't crash. And it responded crisply to touches. But part of ASUS idiocy is not providing a backwards migration path even though they have ample evidence that they have a shoddy ICS ROM.
I realize, before asking, that there are a lot of combinations and permutations to what you folks might recommend. But let me help you to understand what I am seeking at the end of the migration:
First off about me: I have prior experience rooting and replacing ROM's. (Nexus One now runs CM 7.1. Samsung Galaxy Tab 7" GT-P1000 now running CM9.) But I would not describe myself as an experienced or confident person-- I suppose it would help if all Android devices used the same tools and procedures for performing the migration.
Bottom Line: I am capable of following instructions and I am comfortable with CWM flashing once I have a rooted device with CWM.
My criteria:
Stability:
I want highest possible stability- I am realistic; I realize that the ASUS TF101 is already cursed. But I would settle for one crash every couple of days.
Smooth performance:
Under .27 stock, there is a ridiculously slow response to touch events. My single core first generation Samsung 7" performs faster!
Ungimmicky:
I don't need flashy special features built into the ROM. I'd be happy with something that stays reasonably close to the vanilla Android ICS experience.
(If it helps, I am fairly pleased with the CM9 implementation on my ancient Samsung 7".)
What I Use TF101 For:
- Slingplayer Mobile
- Video files (.avi, .mp4, .mpg, .flv, .mkv)
- Reading: PressReader, Pulse, Flipboard
- Occasionally using an Office-type suite and/or Google Drive docs
What I Don't Want or Need
- Games
- ASUS "value added" bloatware apps
Questions:
- What are the important differences between the various CM9 implementations?
I see there are at least two CM9 implementations for the TF101. (Which may or may not be the same as the one posted at the CyanogenMod site:
http://get.cm/?device=tf101&type=stable
- I have done some reading about Revolver and Overcome. But I am not sure whether these are a better choice than CM9. Are they more reliable because they are based on the stock ROM?
(Remember that I don't want or need any ASUS apps.)
- So let's start with the important question: based on my needs and desire for a quick move to a rooted, stable, ICS TF101, which ROM should I use?
- Which kernel and version number should I flash to accompany that particular ROM?
- Is there a guide (either here on XDA or elsewhere) that will take me from stock, unrooted ICS .27 to installing CWM?
- A bonus would be if it took me all the way to flashing the final ROM, but this is not essential
One last point: I already understand the idea that CWM would let me try out various ROMs. And I am comfortable doing that if I am not happy with my first choice.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
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None of stock ROMs r stable r smooth and I hate them.. in my opinion rooting n custom is the way to go.... when I was on ICS, I preferred revolver ICS ROM but android revolution HD is also very smooth n stable... I have moved onto jelly bean but since its in alpha/nightly versions its up to you..
I prefer easy flash to root and install recovery, please choose twrp or rogue recovery as they r better than cwm in my opinion...
For revolver n revolution you don't need any custom kernel as both run on stock kernel...
PS: when you use easy flash follow instructions and install universal naked driver.... good luck
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I just hopped back to Megatron after tinkering with jelly bean rooms, it's still the best daily workhorse from I've tried on this thing.

udupa82 said:
... when I was on ICS, I preferred revolver ICS ROM
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I rooted and flashed Revolver. So far I am relying on the original kernel The tablet is no longer hesitating. So far no random FCs of apps. The Gmail app in particular is not afraid to stay alive.
I am quite pleased!

CleanRom 2.3 or CM10 nigthly? can't decide.

I would like to know which one performs best or if its based on preference. I know the developers have made an outstanding job making these roms but I can't decide on wich one. Comments and opinions are highly appreciated!

itrof61 said:
I would like to know which one performs best or if its based on preference. I know the developers have made an outstanding job making these roms but I can't decide on wich one. Comments and opinions are highly appreciated!
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Here is my short opinion:
Performance=about the same
Stable=Cleanrom(zero bug for me), CM10=buggy.
Features=CM10 (more bells and whistles
So if you just want a stable fast rom then use Cleanrom with Clemsy Kernel and data2sd...you're flying.
If you want to play with feature sets (looking for cool things) then go with CM10

What kind of cool things?
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Thanks!!

sai561 said:
What kind of cool things?
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Like vol button control camera zoom in/out...Currently, not much, since there are many bugs, but the goal for CM10 here is (once all the bugs are done), to have all the bells and whistles (like stuff on note2 may be implement here). For Cleanrom the OP would like to stick to STOCK as much as possible.

I had Baked Bean a long time and decided to try CleanRom 2.3 and did so by first updating my hboot via the official jb. Changed kernel to Clemsyn's build 22 and boy my tab is flying! Turned Forced GPU rendering on too and its blazing performance wise. Baked beans got more customizing for you. Bit I'll stick with this setup for a while.
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Clemsyns kernel can be used with cleanrom 2.3 right?
Im asking because it says cm10 version in the tread.

sai561 said:
Clemsyns kernel can be used with cleanrom 2.3 right?
Im asking because it says cm10 version in the tread.
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Here ya go Click this ones for cleanrom 2.3

Cleanrom zero bugs here.

OK, here is a question. Is there a difference between stock and non-stock roms in how the device deals with the keyboard dock?
Also, non-stock will be missing the ASUS customized settings, correct? So what does that mean for the screen saver, dock-unlock, system performance settings, touchpad options, etc?

GaryParr said:
OK, here is a question. Is there a difference between stock and non-stock roms in how the device deals with the keyboard dock?
Also, non-stock will be missing the ASUS customized settings, correct? So what does that mean for the screen saver, dock-unlock, system performance settings, touchpad options, etc?
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Clean Rom has everything (apps / user settings) just as stock.

jaxboater said:
Clean Rom has everything (apps / user settings) just as stock.
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Right, because it is based on stock. I was more asking about non-stock such as CM, AOSP or AOKP.

GaryParr said:
OK, here is a question. Is there a difference between stock and non-stock roms in how the device deals with the keyboard dock?
Also, non-stock will be missing the ASUS customized settings, correct? So what does that mean for the screen saver, dock-unlock, system performance settings, touchpad options, etc?
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To answer your question:
1. Yes, in that the CM/AOSP/AOKP ROMs do not properly support most keyboard shortcut keys, and some of them do funky things with the volume keys on the tablet as well.
2. Non-stock ROMs: No screen saver; dock unlock works fine, but see point 1 above. System performance settings: some work more or less okay, others do not. CPU scaling seems unreliable. Brightness settings varies as well: some report the highest brightness available being Super IPS+, others say the highest brightness is significantly less bright than that. I have no other light meters available than those that Nature gave me (meh ), so I wouldn't be able to definitively tell you. The touchpad cannot be disabled on non-stock ROMs (which is THE most important dealbreaker for me). Sound sometimes is funky as well.
I'm very happy with CleanROM (except for those dodgy notifications).

How big of a difference in speed and fluidity is there between stock JB and CleanROM 2.3?

BoosterSilver said:
How big of a difference in speed and fluidity is there between stock JB and CleanROM 2.3?
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I do not believe in benchmarking (far too artificial), so I do not have hard numbers for you. On stock JB, I still saw I/O issues, even when transferring relatively small files. I transferred over 6 GB of files yesterday (e-books, specifically, lots of 'em) and it was fast -- the pauses have been reduced to very, very minor instances on CleanROM 2.3.
Fluidity... Very subjective. I was blown away by the smoothness of CleanROM 2.2, and told Scott I did not believe he could further improve on that. He just smiled. He did it again with 2.3 -- he has made some incredible strides. I haven't tried the latest and greatest ASUS stock JB ROM, however -- it might have improved on fluidity significantly. The only way to tell is to test it yourself.
My expectation, based on experience with the stock ROMs: they're built more for reliability than for speed or fluidity (relatively speaking), so I'm not even considering letting CleanROM go.
Hope it helps, even if a tiny bit.

Thanks! Yes it does. I'm picking up the 64gb next week so I guess I can just install the JB stock first before I switch over to CleanROM.

BoosterSilver said:
I can just install the JB stock first before I switch over to CleanROM.
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NO! WRONG WRONG WRONG!
You're not actually wrong at all about the upgrade/rom sequence you should flash but I wanted to make sure I had your attention. I don't know how much you've scoured the forums, but for the love of god use NVFlash before you install any updates, linked here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1901479
This essentially makes a device-specific backup that can be restored no matter what you do to the device software-wise. As the thread points out, it is an absolute failsafe against any and all softbricks.
This process is incompatible with the bootloader packaged with stock JB, so it's essential that you use NVFlash first. You can use the backup you'll create with the new bootloader once you do upgrade, but you won't be able to make one in the first place if you OTA first. If you don't do this before JB and something goes awry with flashing, you're totally out of luck. Especially with the warranty you're giving up.
In summary you'll want to go:
NVFlash -> Stock JB -> CleanRom
Sorry for the drama I neglected to do this before JB, and I'm still kicking myself. I also realize there's a solid chance you know all of this already and are rolling your eyes at the three-post junior member right now. I figure the risk of sounding condescending is worth it if I could save someone else the hassle.
Best of luck!

B00T_Sp0rk said:
Sorry for the drama I neglected to do this before JB, and I'm still kicking myself. I also realize there's a solid chance you know all of this already and are rolling your eyes at the three-post junior member right now. I figure the risk of sounding condescending is worth it if I could save someone else the hassle.
Best of luck!
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No apologies necessary the risk WAS worth it! I had only started scouting the TF700 forum and did not realize I would have ended up screwing myself just like I had with my HOXL. Thanks for the heads up!

[Q] Non-ASUS Roms and Dock Compatibility?

My wife's JB stock Asus TF700 is being annoying. It's laggy, audio recording hiccups and stutters and lags, and in general my Nexus 7 makes it look really bad (and it's not like she's installed a bunch of junk on it, and these problems persist after reboots/cache wipes).
I don't mind at all unlocking it and doing things like custom kernels, kernel tweaks etc. But I have a few reservations....one of the biggest is the dock with non-ASUS ROMs. I want to make sure that full dock functionality is there. That means the trackpad works, the keyboard works, the SD card slot in the keyboard works, etc. Is there any reason to be concerned about this with custom TF700 ROMs? I don't really see their descriptions addressing this.
The other question is, how likely is it I'll see the improvements I want just by putting in a custom kernel, maybe running an app like Seeder, and/or FSTrim to combat lagginess, and just otherwise leave the stock ASUS Jelly Bean on it, albeit rooted.
Hope this question hasn't been asked and answered before. I *did* search.
Randy

I run CROMI 3.2.1 on my TF700 & have no problems with my keyboard dock. keys all work, as does the SDcard.
This ROM is built off of Asus's Rom, just improved upon.
I've noticed a huge difference in my tablet since switching to CROMI over the stock ROM.
Not sure about just putting in a new kernel though.
Someone else might be able to answer that better.

I'm running CROMI 3.2 + ubuntu on dualboot (rabits) and even with the custom kernel, everything related to the dock works on the android side (the SD reader on the dock is a little problematic while running linux but that is kind of to be expected with an alpha build)
I would go with the newest CleanRom Inheritance (CROMI) and run one of clemsyn's kernels with it.
Stupid fast (compared to stock at least)
I'm also running with fsync disabled, and the performance difference is definitely noticeable.

Also running CROMI 3.2.1, everything works as with the stock ROM, just much, much better!
On stock I was ok with this tablet, got it for the flexibility and keyboard and put up with the lagginess.
Now I absolutely love it! So much fun!
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk HD

If you're really worried about dock support, go the CROMI route -- I'm another proponent and use it myself. It is INSANE how much difference it makes. The lay-out and general user experience is the same, so the transition is... hell, it's not even small or negligible, it's just absent.
Do yourself and your wife a favor and flash CROMI. I warn you, however: once done, there's no way you're going back to stock, and even the other ROMs probably lose to CROMI (by maybe a small margin, I haven't tested lately sicne I'm really happy with the performance as is).

Sweet!! Thanks, guys! I'll give it a go. Looks like others are saying the ASUS unlocker will work on the JB stock ROM so, presumably I no longer have to worry about going through the 'downgrade' to ICS first...
Recommendations on the recovery? CWM? TWRP?
Thanks,
Randy
PS You may have gathered this, but I've been doing this with phones & tablets for a long time with Android, so I'm not 'new' to it, I just didn't know how to deal with the wildcard of the dock thrown in the mix.

rmagruder said:
Sweet!! Thanks, guys! I'll give it a go. Looks like others are saying the ASUS unlocker will work on the JB stock ROM so, presumably I no longer have to worry about going through the 'downgrade' to ICS first...
Recommendations on the recovery? CWM? TWRP?
Thanks,
Randy
PS You may have gathered this, but I've been doing this with phones & tablets for a long time with Android, so I'm not 'new' to it, I just didn't know how to deal with the wildcard of the dock thrown in the mix.
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TWRP, no doubt, but not the latest version, stay with TWRP version 2.3.1.0 (first choice) or 2.3.3.0(second choice).

buhohitr said:
TWRP, no doubt, but not the latest version, stay with TWRP version 2.3.1.0 (first choice) or 2.3.3.0(second choice).
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Hehehe, here's where opinions start differing. I'm a CWM guy, but probably due to having learned where everything is. I believe the current versions of TWRP are really good, and since they're friendlier to learn (and operate, I guess) there's no shame in using TWRP, and whichever one you happen to choose doesn't really matter since they perform the most important tasks equally well.
One real advantage of TWRP is being able to use GooManager to update it on the device itself. As I think of it now, now I've had to tape the tablet inside the dock, I'm probably going to have to go the TWRP route myself soon... (I don't know if I can fastboot through the dock. Ugh)
Still, I vote CWM.

Don't forget to get your nvflash backup setup first...

rmagruder said:
JB stock
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DocCox said:
Don't forget to get your nvflash backup setup first...
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Too late.

buhohitr said:
TWRP, no doubt, but not the latest version, stay with TWRP version 2.3.1.0 (first choice) or 2.3.3.0(second choice).
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Last couple of versions of TWRP feel a bit like betas to me. It offers a brilliant interface but it's a bit disconcerting that it can freeze anywhere in the flash process. I've switched to CWM and whilst it is incredibly slow in comparison to TWRP it is at least stable.