I keep hearing about how when you pick a ROM, you need to decide on either vanilla ICS or the Asus flavor.
What things does the Asus ROMs have that Megatron and AOKP doesn't? Is it just the couple widgets/apps/wallpapers that you can download separately anyway or is there more to it?
Thanks for your input!
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I keep hearing about how when you pick a ROM, you need to decide on either vanilla ICS or the Asus flavor.
What things does the Asus ROMs have that Megatron and AOKP doesn't? Is it just the couple widgets/apps/wallpapers that you can download separately anyway or is there more to it?
Thanks for your input!
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The Asus based ROMs (I know of the two big ones, Revolver and Revolution HD) don't offer as many extras as the other ROMs that have e.g. a CM9 base. They may be a bit more stable, and they are not really different from the stock ROM (at least in terms of look and feel). What is unique: they have the original Asus customized settings, so they allow to Mao the mouse buttons, and have the extended notification area (both not present in stock ICS ROMs).
If you want to have the best of both worlds, I'd recommend the Megatron ROM which has a great set of nice options and tweaks (more than the standard Cyanogenmod tweaks), and also let you choose between ICS and Asus virtual buttons, and give you the Asus keyboard and the option to install Polaris Office, supernote, their live wallpaper and widgets...).
I loaded Revolver on mine and at first appearance, it looks basically the same. But as you use it, everything is smoother and faster. I went one step further and loaded a custom kernel by Guevor which made it smoother and faster yet. These 2 together have completely changed how I view & use my TF. Some people have had good results just by loading a custom kernel on the stock rom too. I would do a bit of reading through the forum to see what might work for you. Not every one has had good success when going the custom route, so do some digging and try to get all your questions answered before you start hacking.
You just lose a few ASUS customized settings, but you gain the AOSP settings, I like AOSP better, but some just don't like the feel:
E.G. Sense vs TouchWiz vs AOSP vs ??? vs Profit
Gummy ROM (nightlies) is my favorite AOSP rom so far. It's an AOSP rom with some features from CM9, some from AOKP, some of their own and some Asus stuff. Its the best of all the worlds.
Theres a link to my rom videos in my signature if it helps.
My 2 chosen roms are:
Asus based: Frozn by Jcarrz1 - theres a couple of little bugs and although its not fully completed, combine it with one of the overclock kernels and the speed is on a different level.
I posted up how to set it up in the Frozn thread. Hopefully Jcarrz is still working on Frozn as im sure if it turns out like Krakd then it will be sublime!. If its too much hassle then - Revolver for sure.
Aosp / Aokp: No question it would have to be Gummy nightly. Browsing speed is much faster imo than any of the TF roms, nice tweeks, the devs baked in some themes, stable.....it really is a must try. You also get the delight of the nyam cat but i wont spoil it for you. All i will say is you can switch it off in Gummy settings :victory:
Good for flashaholics with it getting almost nightly updates.
Everyones different and theres a rom for everyone.
Just make sure your backed up and read about how to get out of a pickle. Otherwise just give them all a go and see what you like.:good:
You may need to flash one of the Asus ones to get any updated firmware for the keyboard. I.m not sure the aosp ones will do that.
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Gummy has my attention. Does each update require a full wipe or just cache and dalvik? I do not want to have to do full wipes all the time.
I know I will most likely need to try all of these and see what I like most, but I'd prefer to have a good base to start from.
I pretty much only surf the web, get email, stupid stuff like that. Not really much for games outside of Draw Something, Hanging with Friends. Looking for a ROM that is "pretty" or "flashy". Needs to look good, flow quickly and smoothly when I use it, and is customizable so I can make it the way I want.
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Gummy has my attention. Does each update require a full wipe or just cache and dalvik? I do not want to have to do full wipes all the time.
I know I will most likely need to try all of these and see what I like most, but I'd prefer to have a good base to start from.
I pretty much only surf the web, get email, stupid stuff like that. Not really much for games outside of Draw Something, Hanging with Friends. Looking for a ROM that is "pretty" or "flashy". Needs to look good, flow quickly and smoothly when I use it, and is customizable so I can make it the way I want.
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with nightlies i think just wiping dalvik and cache will be fine
here is another rom to check out AOKPCB
looks really fancy basically is AOKP but themed. Haven't tried it yet though.
Im also in a situation on which rom to just stick with. Right now im using revolver because its based on stock firmware but i'm missing some AOSP. Was running Megatron a while back for a long time but i need a rom that gets updated every now and then.
Kinda feels like Megatron is laggier than the Asus ROMs. Anyone else find this? I did do a full wipe. Also, is there a way to increase the auto brightness value? It is awfully dim.
Otherwise, it is a great mix to get really everything that both variants have to offer. Really only missing the pretty power screen but everything else (and more) is there.
One hour later edit: This ROM is definitely laggy. I press to go into the menu and it's jerky. Really everything is... jerky. Ran a benchmark and had a good score (3200+) but the navigation throughout isn't fluid.
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Kinda feels like Megatron is laggier than the Asus ROMs. Anyone else find this? I did do a full wipe. Also, is there a way to increase the auto brightness value? It is awfully dim.
Otherwise, it is a great mix to get really everything that both variants have to offer. Really only missing the pretty power screen but everything else (and more) is there.
One hour later edit: This ROM is definitely laggy. I press to go into the menu and it's jerky. Really everything is... jerky. Ran a benchmark and had a good score (3200+) but the navigation throughout isn't fluid.
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I am also getting lags on all aosp roms that I have tried so far. I am on a B70.
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I am also getting lags on all aosp roms that I have tried so far. I am on a B70.
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I have a B70 running Steel Droid v2. It's an AOKP based rom and I'm not having any lag issues. It might not necessarily be a hardware thing. Have you tried a custom kernel that you can overclock? I keep it oc'd at 1200MHz because I, personally, haven't seen a noticeable difference when I set it at a higher frequency.
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New observation
I tried both Harmony v3 for aosp and Guevor 22.6 and get the same issues. I tried the new aokp Milestone 6 with both guevor 22.6 for aokp and Harmony aosp v3 but still get bad framerates in many games. One new observation from tonight: In the game "Siege Hero", if the option "Stretch to fill screen" is selected, I get bad framerates but great graphics. If I select "Zoom to fill screen", graphics are low res but everything is very fluid. This does not happen on asus based roms.
Another example of what I am getting is the game "Extreme skater" that does not offer compatibility choices, probably because it supports native resolution, but rarely stays fluid on aokp/cm9/aosp but runs great on asus based roms.
It looks like some other users are getting the same problems but we are not a lot complaining.
Any ideas?
I am on a B70KAS... TF101.
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That is a matter of opinion, you can't really ask anyone that. They all have their key areas they focus on.
Try a few. Gives you practise flashing. I only just got my tf as well - I've tried Prime and am now a currently on revolution hd. Also worth looking at revolver and krakd.
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I recommend prime. I used it for a couple months and it was the smoothest and most stable. I tried out android HD and ran into some issues (browser crashed mostly) and now I'm testing out revolver.
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its all about user preference. Try them all and see which one fits your needs. I flashed revolver as my first rom and haven't flashed any other one because i didnt need to.
yeah just check em out all of them are better than stock in my opinion ive tried prime revovler and revolution and all of were smooth some roms have different features. that why its best to try em all cuz you might like one set of features more than another. lways take a backup of your stock rom and leave it right on thr microsd and you can always get back if you have a problemm.
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its all about user preference. Try them all and see which one fits your needs. I flashed revolver as my first rom and haven't flashed any other one because i didnt need too.
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Agreed that's what i did. Went revolver and have had no interest in going to another ROM
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Agreed that's what i did. Went revolver and have had no interest in going to another ROM
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same here. revolver is immaculate.
I am using Revolver. It has a ton of features built in. This ROM in conjunction with Revolver Parts is really everything you need. JMO.
JT
I'm a Brit and I use a Brit Dev's ROM
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Mines on KRAKD:+)
DESIRE HD using ER3BUS ASUS TRANSFORMER on KRAKD
I've been using krakd and have been happy but my tf just started to discharge overnight so I have some looking in to do.
I'm currently on Revolver. The one feature that keeps me coming back to this rom; the force time-out of wifi. I love not having to use a secondary app (auto-airplane) in order to auto-disconnect from wifi to conserve battery life. I also love being able to kill the apps by using the app-switch button. Not the best battery life with this rom (that goes to revolution HD in my experience).
I was also a big fan of prime for a while, but it kind of fell behind with the updates. While I haven't had any issues with revolver, Prime just felt the most stable. I also loved the boot animation.
I had the best battery life with Revolution HD, but I would get occasional lockups with this rom. Probably had something to do with the undervolt settings of the custom kernal. The settings just didn't agree with my transformer.
I can't comment on Krakd. I installed it and only played around with it briefly before flashing something else.
I've been using on a daily basis every rom out there. I am now back to the stock rom. Probably because I'm preparing for ICS LOL.
Can anyone give me a rundown of what features Krakd is missing that Revolver has (if any)? I did try revolver, but wasn't too impressed initially, but I was flashing like crazy and didn't do a lot of exploring within each rom, really tested for stability and speed and (I know how this sounds) boot animation (yes, I know I can change it...), I was on Prime for a while, but then decided to try Krakd and got stuck with it (in a good way). Should I be considering giving revolver another look?
I've tested all ROM's but i've got back to prime again. Prime is very stable, it as quick controls build in, you don't need to install ICS themes (it comes already with it), and i love the startup!
The others are very good Rom's but i perfere this one. (it is really a question of preference).
One thing that i you can't left out on any ROM is the AWD EX launcher... It makes every transformer completely smooth like an Ipad. IT'S A MUST HAVE!
I have a video on youtube that can demonstrate the performance of my table with AWD EX but i can't post any outside links on this forum yet. If you guys want to have a look just search on youtube for: Asus Transformer with Rom Prime v2.1.0 CPU [email protected] ADW EX
I think your gona like it!
I prefer Revolver after trying other ROMs because I had strange problems on Prime like the function keys on my keyboard stop working andwould require reboot as well as search not working anywhere unless I used the search key.
Revolver also has so many optional customisations/installble apps as well as kernels and with Revolver parts all of this is automated.
Gnufabio is extremely active in multiple forums and also has monetary incentive set up with Revolver Parts having a donate and an Elite version. I feel like he is more ambitious about quality.
Cheers!
-M
Xda member since 2007
I run Revolver and am incredibly happy with it. I haven't tried any of the other ROMs here, but they are all almost the same, so just try some out and figure out which one works best for you.
Besides boot animations and themes, many of the ROMs are the same. Battery life is an opinion base topic. Some would say they have the best battery life is with Revolver, then some would argue that Prime has the best, in other words it's all preference. Just make sure you choose the right Kernel, as the Kernel usually is the key component. Some ROMs run "OK" at first but if you flash a different Kernel, it could definitely make a world of a difference (Good or Bad).
Mine's on Android Revolution HD. The only ROM I have tried. Battery drains fast though.
Hello,
I am coming from the Acer A500, which I really liked running flexreaper. Now I am looking at loading a custom ics rom for the Asus. I know there are lots of differences in roms like the acer so im looking for recommendations. Id like it to be fast (duh) and im big on widgets and making it look flashy, so a bare bones rom isnt for me. What would you recommend? Any custom kernels for it. I like the idea of overclocking. Finally, any must have apps specific to the asus that i should look at? Thanks for all your help!
I've found the Revolver 4 ROM quite stable. You can keep the tablet's functionality and customization pretty stock and it's one of the fastest ROMs available. Some of the other ROMs I've tried include the EOS and CM9 and have each displayed varying degrees of bugs currently, especially if you use the dock at all. When Revolver Parts comes available for Revolver 4, you'll get a lot more customization and the ability to try custom kernels when they show up for ICS.
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I second Revolver 4 1.3.1. I borked it up myself when I upgraded without a full wipe from Revolver 3.11.
If flashy and function featured is your goal go with Revolver 3 for now. It ran super fast for me with the O/C kernel from Pandatest and NO glitches. Revolver 4 ran fine once I installed it properly, but it felt limited in that there are no ICS kernels right now. I also experienced some strange battery drain.
At the moment I am testing CM9 with Cornerstone. Talk about flashy! Some annoying bugs but for me I might be willing to put up with them for this cornerstone app.
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Hello,
I am coming from the Acer A500, which I really liked running flexreaper. Now I am looking at loading a custom ics rom for the Asus. I know there are lots of differences in roms like the acer so im looking for recommendations. Id like it to be fast (duh) and im big on widgets and making it look flashy, so a bare bones rom isnt for me. What would you recommend? Any custom kernels for it. I like the idea of overclocking. Finally, any must have apps specific to the asus that i should look at? Thanks for all your help!
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Assuming you don't care about Cornerstone, it's either Revolver http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1518768 or Codename Android http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1534648
Since you said you like to customize, Codename Android might be a better option for you right now. It has several built-in customization options that other ROMs don't have.
Custom kernels and overclocking isn't possible until Asus releases the kernel source. We don't know when but they probably will release it like they did for Honeycomb.
Thanks for the responses. Ill start with revolver and check out codename android as well.
I should ask, is there some pros and cons listed about cornerstone? It wasnt an option on the a500 so im not too familiar with it other than being for multitasking.
I am getting used to cornerstone. I really like the ability to chat with my wife and browse the web simultaneously. I'm in afghanistan so our internet is really slow. It sux to type a sentence and go back and forth between instances just to make sure Gtalk is still connected.
However, as noted by other comments, CM9 is a bit buggy in its support for the dock and feel. I've had a few random bugs that seem to fix themselves after a reboot never to return. For me, not having the ability to disable the trackpad sucks. I constantly hit it as i type. Almost all of the top row hotkeys are either not functioning or slow to respond.
I really wish revolver 4 was further along now. Revolver 3 really impressed me (spoiled me) to the point I always want that next ROM with more features.
Running revolver at the moment. It's a nice ROM, but these random reboots are annoying. Are any of these other ROMs, such as CM9, as flashy and feature rich? Just thinking of trying something else out to compare.
Thanks!
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Running revolver at the moment. It's a nice ROM, but these random reboots are annoying. Are any of these other ROMs, such as CM9, as flashy and feature rich? Just thinking of trying something else out to compare.
Thanks!
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I'm running the CM9 without cornerstone and can't be happier. Actually, I could once theming and other misc tweaks are put into CM9, but the ROM is solid with amazing battery life. It is really snappy too. I just wish I could get a similar port for my Evo 4G, but I will have to wait until deck's release comes out of beta.
I also strongly recommend CM9, which is now Megatron 1.0
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I also strongly recommend CM9, which is now Megatron 1.0
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All ICS roms for the TF is plagued by random reboots/SOD's, unfortunely.
That said, team EOS build 19 has now been running stable for me for 123h.
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All ICS roms for the TF is plagued by random reboots/SOD's, unfortunely.
That said, team EOS build 19 has now been running stable for me for 123h.
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Not from my experience. Since a couple of tests into guevors kernels, I've never had a RR or SOD anymore. Using CM9 btw
So I finally gathered up the balls to flash my Droid with GummyCharged. It's pretty snappy. I like it except for minor glitches here and there but it was manageable. I searched online for more info about Gummy and I found that support for it has dropped.
My question is which ROM should I move my attention to next? I looked at Tweaked and Infinity, but I couldn't help but notice Deodexed/Eclipse.
It seems there's an equal amount of information on them but I couldn't really find any info about which one has the most support or which one is the obvious forerunner of the three.
So community, what is your opinion? What do you like best and why?
the only few worth ur time is tweaked, eclipse, or infinity. the others r all outdated and no longer updated. or the fp1 debloated but that isnt a custom rom really.
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There isn't really a forerunner. It's more about personal preference. Tweaked is the most customizable. Eclipse has a lot more apps replaced with their AOSP (Google) equivalents. Infinity is still a valid choice as well. I love the Infinity theme, but I personally have always had slowdowns and hotboots on it. It falls somewhere in between Tweaked and Eclipse...a good amount of customization as well as some AOSP app replacements.
I would run either Tweaked or Eclipse. I ran Eclipse from the time it was on version 1.1 up until Tweaked 2.0 came out, then I switched to Tweaked.
Specify!
I think it would be appropriate for me to specify what exactly I'm looking for. Thanks for your response shrike. What I'm looking for is the least buggy, most responsive ROM that offers reasonable battery. Customizable features is nice but that's exactly a must.
So I see the poll is shooting towards Tweaked, so I guess I'll ask, is Tweaked the most appropriate ROM that will fulfill most of what I'm looking for, if not all?
And by AOSP, what do you mean Eclipse has AOSP equivalents? (Ignorant question lol). I read about it but I don't want to interpret what I've read incorrectly.
Thanks again!
Nitro took the AOSP code from Google and compiled some of the apps for our this phone, and replaced a lot of the TouchWiz apps with the AOSP equivalents. If you want something closer to AOSP, then Eclipse is the closest we have (other than jt's unfinished CM9 port), but it is still TouchWiz at it's core.
From a stability standpoint, I've had zero stability problems with both Eclipse and Tweaked. Eclipse is farther from stock when you consider the apps and the look and feel. Tweaked is closer to stock from an app standpoint, but the framework has been more heavily modified to integrate the customizations (TSM Parts primarily).
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I think it would be appropriate for me to specify what exactly I'm looking for. Thanks for your response shrike. What I'm looking for is the least buggy, most responsive ROM that offers reasonable battery. Customizable features is nice but that's exactly a must.
So I see the poll is shooting towards Tweaked, so I guess I'll ask, is Tweaked the most appropriate ROM that will fulfill most of what I'm looking for, if not all?
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Based on what you're looking for, I'd recommend Eclipse. I'm currently using Tweaked because I like the statusbar customization options, but everyday I experience a few freezeups that persist until I get a hotboot or I pull the battery. I've reinstalled several times after going back to stock EP4, and I've gotten the freezeups after each new installation. This has been the case regardless of whether I'm on the stock FP1 kernel or the 0415 pbj kernel. I never had this issue with Eclipse.
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Based on what you're looking for, I'd recommend Eclipse. I'm currently using Tweaked because I like the statusbar customization options, but everyday I experience a few freezeups that persist until I get a hotboot or I pull the battery. I've reinstalled several times after going back to stock EP4, and I've gotten the freezeups after each new installation. This has been the case regardless of whether I'm on the stock FP1 kernel or the 0415 pbj kernel. I never had this issue with Eclipse.
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Sorry to hear the troubles - while the description here is a bit too vague for me to be of much help, would you mind PMing me some specifics? Plus if there is any regularity maybe you could get a logcat?
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Based on what you're looking for, I'd recommend Eclipse. I'm currently using Tweaked because I like the statusbar customization options, but everyday I experience a few freezeups that persist until I get a hotboot or I pull the battery. I've reinstalled several times after going back to stock EP4, and I've gotten the freezeups after each new installation. This has been the case regardless of whether I'm on the stock FP1 kernel or the 0415 pbj kernel. I never had this issue with Eclipse.
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I flashed Eclipse. I'm liking it a lot. So far so good! I had one interesting occurrence though, it prompted for a system update. I clicked on it to update (not expecting it to but just to see what happens) and nothing did happen. I know when I had my LG Revolution with Gingervolt on it, those system updates caused issues with rebooting and turning off. So far I have no issues, but should there be a concern for this? Other than that, I am pleased.
Thanks Nitro! and thanks to the rest of you all for your feedback. My phone is impressing the crowd and has taken a nice warm dump on my friend's iPhone.
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I flashed Eclipse. I'm liking it a lot. So far so good! I had one interesting occurrence though, it prompted for a system update. I clicked on it to update (not expecting it to but just to see what happens) and nothing did happen. I know when I had my LG Revolution with Gingervolt on it, those system updates caused issues with rebooting and turning off. So far I have no issues, but should there be a concern for this? Other than that, I am pleased.
Thanks Nitro! and thanks to the rest of you all for your feedback. My phone is impressing the crowd and has taken a nice warm dump on my friend's iPhone.
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If you keep getting update notifications, you can see this thread:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/21207-stop-ota-notification/
I would like to know which one performs best or if its based on preference. I know the developers have made an outstanding job making these roms but I can't decide on wich one. Comments and opinions are highly appreciated!
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I would like to know which one performs best or if its based on preference. I know the developers have made an outstanding job making these roms but I can't decide on wich one. Comments and opinions are highly appreciated!
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Here is my short opinion:
Performance=about the same
Stable=Cleanrom(zero bug for me), CM10=buggy.
Features=CM10 (more bells and whistles
So if you just want a stable fast rom then use Cleanrom with Clemsy Kernel and data2sd...you're flying.
If you want to play with feature sets (looking for cool things) then go with CM10
What kind of cool things?
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Thanks!!
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What kind of cool things?
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Like vol button control camera zoom in/out...Currently, not much, since there are many bugs, but the goal for CM10 here is (once all the bugs are done), to have all the bells and whistles (like stuff on note2 may be implement here). For Cleanrom the OP would like to stick to STOCK as much as possible.
I had Baked Bean a long time and decided to try CleanRom 2.3 and did so by first updating my hboot via the official jb. Changed kernel to Clemsyn's build 22 and boy my tab is flying! Turned Forced GPU rendering on too and its blazing performance wise. Baked beans got more customizing for you. Bit I'll stick with this setup for a while.
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Clemsyns kernel can be used with cleanrom 2.3 right?
Im asking because it says cm10 version in the tread.
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Clemsyns kernel can be used with cleanrom 2.3 right?
Im asking because it says cm10 version in the tread.
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Here ya go Click this ones for cleanrom 2.3
Cleanrom zero bugs here.
OK, here is a question. Is there a difference between stock and non-stock roms in how the device deals with the keyboard dock?
Also, non-stock will be missing the ASUS customized settings, correct? So what does that mean for the screen saver, dock-unlock, system performance settings, touchpad options, etc?
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OK, here is a question. Is there a difference between stock and non-stock roms in how the device deals with the keyboard dock?
Also, non-stock will be missing the ASUS customized settings, correct? So what does that mean for the screen saver, dock-unlock, system performance settings, touchpad options, etc?
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Clean Rom has everything (apps / user settings) just as stock.
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Clean Rom has everything (apps / user settings) just as stock.
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Right, because it is based on stock. I was more asking about non-stock such as CM, AOSP or AOKP.
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OK, here is a question. Is there a difference between stock and non-stock roms in how the device deals with the keyboard dock?
Also, non-stock will be missing the ASUS customized settings, correct? So what does that mean for the screen saver, dock-unlock, system performance settings, touchpad options, etc?
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To answer your question:
1. Yes, in that the CM/AOSP/AOKP ROMs do not properly support most keyboard shortcut keys, and some of them do funky things with the volume keys on the tablet as well.
2. Non-stock ROMs: No screen saver; dock unlock works fine, but see point 1 above. System performance settings: some work more or less okay, others do not. CPU scaling seems unreliable. Brightness settings varies as well: some report the highest brightness available being Super IPS+, others say the highest brightness is significantly less bright than that. I have no other light meters available than those that Nature gave me (meh ), so I wouldn't be able to definitively tell you. The touchpad cannot be disabled on non-stock ROMs (which is THE most important dealbreaker for me). Sound sometimes is funky as well.
I'm very happy with CleanROM (except for those dodgy notifications).
How big of a difference in speed and fluidity is there between stock JB and CleanROM 2.3?
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How big of a difference in speed and fluidity is there between stock JB and CleanROM 2.3?
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I do not believe in benchmarking (far too artificial), so I do not have hard numbers for you. On stock JB, I still saw I/O issues, even when transferring relatively small files. I transferred over 6 GB of files yesterday (e-books, specifically, lots of 'em) and it was fast -- the pauses have been reduced to very, very minor instances on CleanROM 2.3.
Fluidity... Very subjective. I was blown away by the smoothness of CleanROM 2.2, and told Scott I did not believe he could further improve on that. He just smiled. He did it again with 2.3 -- he has made some incredible strides. I haven't tried the latest and greatest ASUS stock JB ROM, however -- it might have improved on fluidity significantly. The only way to tell is to test it yourself.
My expectation, based on experience with the stock ROMs: they're built more for reliability than for speed or fluidity (relatively speaking), so I'm not even considering letting CleanROM go.
Hope it helps, even if a tiny bit.
Thanks! Yes it does. I'm picking up the 64gb next week so I guess I can just install the JB stock first before I switch over to CleanROM.
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I can just install the JB stock first before I switch over to CleanROM.
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NO! WRONG WRONG WRONG!
You're not actually wrong at all about the upgrade/rom sequence you should flash but I wanted to make sure I had your attention. I don't know how much you've scoured the forums, but for the love of god use NVFlash before you install any updates, linked here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1901479
This essentially makes a device-specific backup that can be restored no matter what you do to the device software-wise. As the thread points out, it is an absolute failsafe against any and all softbricks.
This process is incompatible with the bootloader packaged with stock JB, so it's essential that you use NVFlash first. You can use the backup you'll create with the new bootloader once you do upgrade, but you won't be able to make one in the first place if you OTA first. If you don't do this before JB and something goes awry with flashing, you're totally out of luck. Especially with the warranty you're giving up.
In summary you'll want to go:
NVFlash -> Stock JB -> CleanRom
Sorry for the drama I neglected to do this before JB, and I'm still kicking myself. I also realize there's a solid chance you know all of this already and are rolling your eyes at the three-post junior member right now. I figure the risk of sounding condescending is worth it if I could save someone else the hassle.
Best of luck!
B00T_Sp0rk said:
Sorry for the drama I neglected to do this before JB, and I'm still kicking myself. I also realize there's a solid chance you know all of this already and are rolling your eyes at the three-post junior member right now. I figure the risk of sounding condescending is worth it if I could save someone else the hassle.
Best of luck!
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No apologies necessary the risk WAS worth it! I had only started scouting the TF700 forum and did not realize I would have ended up screwing myself just like I had with my HOXL. Thanks for the heads up!
This is something that has always been bugging me,
Why do people install all these custom non-stock based roms like CM or Baked Black Beans or Paranoidandroid ?
I do understand the reason to install something like CleanROM that is stock-based, just to improve tablet's performance. But why a non-stock based rom ?
If I open up CM thread, I see that there is a lot of stuff that doesn't properly work in that ROM. What is the advantage of having it then ?
It's just a personal preference for some (I prefer stock-based myself). There are a lot more configuration options in the CM10-based ROM's (but at the some time, you lose other options that are available in stock).
Like I said, it's just something that some users prefer. It's good to have options!
In my opinion, the Transformer series of devices are just better off with stock since they have so many Transformer-specific functions. But, with a "normal" tablet, CM10 is actually a very good option...
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Non stock based ROMs can have a newer android version, more options, more features, higher customability, etc.
And having a 'completely different' ROM can give the feeling of owning a new phone which is nice too.
not uncommon to have a smaller footprint, which gives more memory. Sometimes there stuff only available on AOSP that isn't compatible with stock; usually it's a kernel issue.
Personally, I prefer CM over stock. Right now, since it's still early and some items I want are not working, I can wait. There's nothing must have on CM for me right now. Personally, I would love to have something like Boot Manager so I can have multiple ROMs.
Well there isn't that much that is missing in CM10 compared to stock as ASUS made a great decision in keeping the stock ROM as close to AOSP as they could to allow for faster updates. ASOP tend to get updates faster and performance usually is increased compared to stock. Clean ROM is faster right now but it is likely only a matter of time for CM to catch up and surpass it. I'm also waiting for it to become a little more stable before I switch. If you get bored one day, check out out for yourself to see if you like it or not.
Like @jtrosky said, it really comes down to personal preference. I prefer the AOSP roms because I think they perform better for what I use my TF700 for, but that is my opinion and a lot of people would disagree. You do have to remember when you read people complaining in the CM10 thread about things not working that it is very much a work in progress for this device.
I agree that unlocked stock and stock-based roms benchmark better than AOSP roms, but I really think ASUS has built their rom so it performs well in these types of tests (lets face it, all serious reviews of any device contain benchmark data). I think some would agree that real world testing shows that stock (even CleanROM) is more laggy than ASOP roms though. Again, this is my personal opinion and my experience of this device.
If you start a thread like this you are going to get a load of conflicting views. The only way to find out which is best is to do a bit of your own testing and see what works best for you. Happy flashing
Thanks for replies guys.
Although im still not convinced
Cleanrom + data2sd + OC kernel makes this tablet fly and the stock rom (on which cleanrom is based) guarantees that all the tablet's features workfine.
To be honest i dont see a reason for a non-stock bsed rom.
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jodvova said:
Thanks for replies guys.
Although im still not convinced
Cleanrom + data2sd + OC kernel makes this tablet fly and the stock rom (on which cleanrom is based) guarantees that all the tablet's features workfine.
To be honest i dont see a reason for a non-stock bsed rom.
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Can you watch your movies or play games on fullscreen (i mean real fullscreen with no status bar) with stock rom? I guess not.
Can use themes on stock rom? I guess not
I could go on and on about this but like others said it's just a matter of taste and if you don't see a point to use custom roms just stick with the stock.
jodvova said:
Thanks for replies guys.
Although im still not convinced
Cleanrom + data2sd + OC kernel makes this tablet fly and the stock rom (on which cleanrom is based) guarantees that all the tablet's features workfine.
To be honest i dont see a reason for a non-stock bsed rom.
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It's the difference between driving a stock car, or adding rims, tricking out the stereo, and tinting the windows - it's not for everyone, but some can't live any other way...