[Q] Which ROM??? - Verizon Droid Charge

So I finally gathered up the balls to flash my Droid with GummyCharged. It's pretty snappy. I like it except for minor glitches here and there but it was manageable. I searched online for more info about Gummy and I found that support for it has dropped.
My question is which ROM should I move my attention to next? I looked at Tweaked and Infinity, but I couldn't help but notice Deodexed/Eclipse.
It seems there's an equal amount of information on them but I couldn't really find any info about which one has the most support or which one is the obvious forerunner of the three.
So community, what is your opinion? What do you like best and why?

the only few worth ur time is tweaked, eclipse, or infinity. the others r all outdated and no longer updated. or the fp1 debloated but that isnt a custom rom really.
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There isn't really a forerunner. It's more about personal preference. Tweaked is the most customizable. Eclipse has a lot more apps replaced with their AOSP (Google) equivalents. Infinity is still a valid choice as well. I love the Infinity theme, but I personally have always had slowdowns and hotboots on it. It falls somewhere in between Tweaked and Eclipse...a good amount of customization as well as some AOSP app replacements.
I would run either Tweaked or Eclipse. I ran Eclipse from the time it was on version 1.1 up until Tweaked 2.0 came out, then I switched to Tweaked.

Specify!
I think it would be appropriate for me to specify what exactly I'm looking for. Thanks for your response shrike. What I'm looking for is the least buggy, most responsive ROM that offers reasonable battery. Customizable features is nice but that's exactly a must.
So I see the poll is shooting towards Tweaked, so I guess I'll ask, is Tweaked the most appropriate ROM that will fulfill most of what I'm looking for, if not all?
And by AOSP, what do you mean Eclipse has AOSP equivalents? (Ignorant question lol). I read about it but I don't want to interpret what I've read incorrectly.
Thanks again!

Nitro took the AOSP code from Google and compiled some of the apps for our this phone, and replaced a lot of the TouchWiz apps with the AOSP equivalents. If you want something closer to AOSP, then Eclipse is the closest we have (other than jt's unfinished CM9 port), but it is still TouchWiz at it's core.
From a stability standpoint, I've had zero stability problems with both Eclipse and Tweaked. Eclipse is farther from stock when you consider the apps and the look and feel. Tweaked is closer to stock from an app standpoint, but the framework has been more heavily modified to integrate the customizations (TSM Parts primarily).

ibthevivin said:
I think it would be appropriate for me to specify what exactly I'm looking for. Thanks for your response shrike. What I'm looking for is the least buggy, most responsive ROM that offers reasonable battery. Customizable features is nice but that's exactly a must.
So I see the poll is shooting towards Tweaked, so I guess I'll ask, is Tweaked the most appropriate ROM that will fulfill most of what I'm looking for, if not all?
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Based on what you're looking for, I'd recommend Eclipse. I'm currently using Tweaked because I like the statusbar customization options, but everyday I experience a few freezeups that persist until I get a hotboot or I pull the battery. I've reinstalled several times after going back to stock EP4, and I've gotten the freezeups after each new installation. This has been the case regardless of whether I'm on the stock FP1 kernel or the 0415 pbj kernel. I never had this issue with Eclipse.

Son of Cicero said:
Based on what you're looking for, I'd recommend Eclipse. I'm currently using Tweaked because I like the statusbar customization options, but everyday I experience a few freezeups that persist until I get a hotboot or I pull the battery. I've reinstalled several times after going back to stock EP4, and I've gotten the freezeups after each new installation. This has been the case regardless of whether I'm on the stock FP1 kernel or the 0415 pbj kernel. I never had this issue with Eclipse.
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Sorry to hear the troubles - while the description here is a bit too vague for me to be of much help, would you mind PMing me some specifics? Plus if there is any regularity maybe you could get a logcat?

Son of Cicero said:
Based on what you're looking for, I'd recommend Eclipse. I'm currently using Tweaked because I like the statusbar customization options, but everyday I experience a few freezeups that persist until I get a hotboot or I pull the battery. I've reinstalled several times after going back to stock EP4, and I've gotten the freezeups after each new installation. This has been the case regardless of whether I'm on the stock FP1 kernel or the 0415 pbj kernel. I never had this issue with Eclipse.
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I flashed Eclipse. I'm liking it a lot. So far so good! I had one interesting occurrence though, it prompted for a system update. I clicked on it to update (not expecting it to but just to see what happens) and nothing did happen. I know when I had my LG Revolution with Gingervolt on it, those system updates caused issues with rebooting and turning off. So far I have no issues, but should there be a concern for this? Other than that, I am pleased.
Thanks Nitro! and thanks to the rest of you all for your feedback. My phone is impressing the crowd and has taken a nice warm dump on my friend's iPhone.

ibthevivin said:
I flashed Eclipse. I'm liking it a lot. So far so good! I had one interesting occurrence though, it prompted for a system update. I clicked on it to update (not expecting it to but just to see what happens) and nothing did happen. I know when I had my LG Revolution with Gingervolt on it, those system updates caused issues with rebooting and turning off. So far I have no issues, but should there be a concern for this? Other than that, I am pleased.
Thanks Nitro! and thanks to the rest of you all for your feedback. My phone is impressing the crowd and has taken a nice warm dump on my friend's iPhone.
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If you keep getting update notifications, you can see this thread:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/21207-stop-ota-notification/

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[Q] MIUI type look on CM7?

I finally convinced my fiancee to sell her ****ty, 3rd hand, iPhone 4 and get a Nexus S.
Yay, the geek in me rejoiced as I could root, OC, and flash ROMs again. (I stopped on my Desire when I found CM7). We first tried MIUI and she loved the look of it, but it felt rather unstable (lots of freezes and sudden reboots) so I installed the latest CM7 nightly. While this seems a lot more stable and is also faster, my fiance dislikes the fact that much if not all of the interface is black. We tried several themes and launchers but a lot of black still remains, so I would like to be able to make all menus, all pages (especially the settings page) everything be not black. White would be gorgeous for her...
I did search and we tried a lot of themes and launchers but none of theme did a complete "re-skin" of the interface.
Your suggestions please?
Try a different kernel on miui.
Any one in particular you recommend? I tried Franco, netarchy and the default MIUI kernel.
Still this is is not what I asked. We already decided CM7 was the faster and more stable of the two?
The way the menus are displayed on MIUI is only found on MIUI. That's one of the things that differentiate it so much from the other custom ROMs. I must say that the days I tested MIUI, stability and speed wasn't the reason why I ditched it. It ran really stable and fast, too. I tested Brainmaster's, god knows with which kernel
On CM7 you get Theme Chooser. This is the only way you can easily change the look of your phone.
I did a quick search for you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1189723
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1302004
If you want to get your hands really dirty, you could always make your own theme, or atleast change some things you really want to see changed.
Greetz
Thanks man, you rock!
Could you point me in the right direction if I were to try making a theme? What do I need? I looked at UOT kitchen but it doesn't seem to be able to do what I'm after.
You're welcome
XDA has an Android Theming section (http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=527), in it, there's a sticky with a lot of information about getting started:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=916814
Read through that section though, it has a pletorea of information about theming, many people ask good questions that can be relevant to what you want to accomplish.
It's challenging, but if you have some knowledge of how Android works and some basic computer skills, you can surely get somewhere after a few days of hard work
Greetz
Try different kernels on miui. I use fracos
i have been running on BrainMaster's MIUI for moths now, everything is good , well , except battery life , but it happens to all MIUI , pretty UI requires more battery life , fair enough.
i would suggest you to try BrainMaster's MIUI + franco kernel
zgomot said:
I finally convinced my fiancee to sell her ****ty, 3rd hand, iPhone 4 and get a Nexus S.
Yay, the geek in me rejoiced as I could root, OC, and flash ROMs again. (I stopped on my Desire when I found CM7). We first tried MIUI and she loved the look of it, but it felt rather unstable (lots of freezes and sudden reboots) so I installed the latest CM7 nightly. While this seems a lot more stable and is also faster, my fiance dislikes the fact that much if not all of the interface is black. We tried several themes and launchers but a lot of black still remains, so I would like to be able to make all menus, all pages (especially the settings page) everything be not black. White would be gorgeous for her...
I did search and we tried a lot of themes and launchers but none of theme did a complete "re-skin" of the interface.
Your suggestions please?
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I seem to recall (from when I used CM7) that if you install GO EX as your Launcher, you do have a specific full theme called MIUI.
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I'm pretty sure the Settings page will still be black, just like what @frutelaken mentioned earlier.
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I'm pretty sure the Settings page will still be black, just like what @frutelaken mentioned earlier.
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Could be - as I mentioned I just seem to recall as it is a long time ago - but honestly, for some reason I believe it was white indeed when the MIUI GO theme was applied via GO EX Launcher. Best to do (since it doesnt really involve much nor flashing or anything), download GO Launcher and browse for said theme and try...
zgomot said:
Any one in particular you recommend? I tried Franco, netarchy and the default MIUI kernel.
Still this is is not what I asked. We already decided CM7 was the faster and more stable of the two?
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Sorry I can not. I personally can't stand miui so never mixed and matched the various kernels and roms.
For a CM7 rom, I recommend MarkVis's modded version which can be found in the development section. For a kernel, I recommend Peter Alfonso's kernel which can be found on his website.
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What differentiates an Asus ROM?

I keep hearing about how when you pick a ROM, you need to decide on either vanilla ICS or the Asus flavor.
What things does the Asus ROMs have that Megatron and AOKP doesn't? Is it just the couple widgets/apps/wallpapers that you can download separately anyway or is there more to it?
Thanks for your input!
dman918 said:
I keep hearing about how when you pick a ROM, you need to decide on either vanilla ICS or the Asus flavor.
What things does the Asus ROMs have that Megatron and AOKP doesn't? Is it just the couple widgets/apps/wallpapers that you can download separately anyway or is there more to it?
Thanks for your input!
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The Asus based ROMs (I know of the two big ones, Revolver and Revolution HD) don't offer as many extras as the other ROMs that have e.g. a CM9 base. They may be a bit more stable, and they are not really different from the stock ROM (at least in terms of look and feel). What is unique: they have the original Asus customized settings, so they allow to Mao the mouse buttons, and have the extended notification area (both not present in stock ICS ROMs).
If you want to have the best of both worlds, I'd recommend the Megatron ROM which has a great set of nice options and tweaks (more than the standard Cyanogenmod tweaks), and also let you choose between ICS and Asus virtual buttons, and give you the Asus keyboard and the option to install Polaris Office, supernote, their live wallpaper and widgets...).
I loaded Revolver on mine and at first appearance, it looks basically the same. But as you use it, everything is smoother and faster. I went one step further and loaded a custom kernel by Guevor which made it smoother and faster yet. These 2 together have completely changed how I view & use my TF. Some people have had good results just by loading a custom kernel on the stock rom too. I would do a bit of reading through the forum to see what might work for you. Not every one has had good success when going the custom route, so do some digging and try to get all your questions answered before you start hacking.
You just lose a few ASUS customized settings, but you gain the AOSP settings, I like AOSP better, but some just don't like the feel:
E.G. Sense vs TouchWiz vs AOSP vs ??? vs Profit
Gummy ROM (nightlies) is my favorite AOSP rom so far. It's an AOSP rom with some features from CM9, some from AOKP, some of their own and some Asus stuff. Its the best of all the worlds.
Theres a link to my rom videos in my signature if it helps.
My 2 chosen roms are:
Asus based: Frozn by Jcarrz1 - theres a couple of little bugs and although its not fully completed, combine it with one of the overclock kernels and the speed is on a different level.
I posted up how to set it up in the Frozn thread. Hopefully Jcarrz is still working on Frozn as im sure if it turns out like Krakd then it will be sublime!. If its too much hassle then - Revolver for sure.
Aosp / Aokp: No question it would have to be Gummy nightly. Browsing speed is much faster imo than any of the TF roms, nice tweeks, the devs baked in some themes, stable.....it really is a must try. You also get the delight of the nyam cat but i wont spoil it for you. All i will say is you can switch it off in Gummy settings :victory:
Good for flashaholics with it getting almost nightly updates.
Everyones different and theres a rom for everyone.
Just make sure your backed up and read about how to get out of a pickle. Otherwise just give them all a go and see what you like.:good:
You may need to flash one of the Asus ones to get any updated firmware for the keyboard. I.m not sure the aosp ones will do that.
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Gummy has my attention. Does each update require a full wipe or just cache and dalvik? I do not want to have to do full wipes all the time.
I know I will most likely need to try all of these and see what I like most, but I'd prefer to have a good base to start from.
I pretty much only surf the web, get email, stupid stuff like that. Not really much for games outside of Draw Something, Hanging with Friends. Looking for a ROM that is "pretty" or "flashy". Needs to look good, flow quickly and smoothly when I use it, and is customizable so I can make it the way I want.
dman918 said:
Gummy has my attention. Does each update require a full wipe or just cache and dalvik? I do not want to have to do full wipes all the time.
I know I will most likely need to try all of these and see what I like most, but I'd prefer to have a good base to start from.
I pretty much only surf the web, get email, stupid stuff like that. Not really much for games outside of Draw Something, Hanging with Friends. Looking for a ROM that is "pretty" or "flashy". Needs to look good, flow quickly and smoothly when I use it, and is customizable so I can make it the way I want.
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with nightlies i think just wiping dalvik and cache will be fine
here is another rom to check out AOKPCB
looks really fancy basically is AOKP but themed. Haven't tried it yet though.
Im also in a situation on which rom to just stick with. Right now im using revolver because its based on stock firmware but i'm missing some AOSP. Was running Megatron a while back for a long time but i need a rom that gets updated every now and then.
Kinda feels like Megatron is laggier than the Asus ROMs. Anyone else find this? I did do a full wipe. Also, is there a way to increase the auto brightness value? It is awfully dim.
Otherwise, it is a great mix to get really everything that both variants have to offer. Really only missing the pretty power screen but everything else (and more) is there.
One hour later edit: This ROM is definitely laggy. I press to go into the menu and it's jerky. Really everything is... jerky. Ran a benchmark and had a good score (3200+) but the navigation throughout isn't fluid.
dman918 said:
Kinda feels like Megatron is laggier than the Asus ROMs. Anyone else find this? I did do a full wipe. Also, is there a way to increase the auto brightness value? It is awfully dim.
Otherwise, it is a great mix to get really everything that both variants have to offer. Really only missing the pretty power screen but everything else (and more) is there.
One hour later edit: This ROM is definitely laggy. I press to go into the menu and it's jerky. Really everything is... jerky. Ran a benchmark and had a good score (3200+) but the navigation throughout isn't fluid.
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I am also getting lags on all aosp roms that I have tried so far. I am on a B70.
Valbowski said:
I am also getting lags on all aosp roms that I have tried so far. I am on a B70.
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I have a B70 running Steel Droid v2. It's an AOKP based rom and I'm not having any lag issues. It might not necessarily be a hardware thing. Have you tried a custom kernel that you can overclock? I keep it oc'd at 1200MHz because I, personally, haven't seen a noticeable difference when I set it at a higher frequency.
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New observation
I tried both Harmony v3 for aosp and Guevor 22.6 and get the same issues. I tried the new aokp Milestone 6 with both guevor 22.6 for aokp and Harmony aosp v3 but still get bad framerates in many games. One new observation from tonight: In the game "Siege Hero", if the option "Stretch to fill screen" is selected, I get bad framerates but great graphics. If I select "Zoom to fill screen", graphics are low res but everything is very fluid. This does not happen on asus based roms.
Another example of what I am getting is the game "Extreme skater" that does not offer compatibility choices, probably because it supports native resolution, but rarely stays fluid on aokp/cm9/aosp but runs great on asus based roms.
It looks like some other users are getting the same problems but we are not a lot complaining.
Any ideas?
I am on a B70KAS... TF101.

No-nonsense ICS Kernel?

Is there a Plain Jane ol' basic kernel for ICS AOKP that doesn't do anything except behave the way stock should?
We all like to play and tweak but I'd like something basic to have as a baseline...possibly even run permanently.
I searched but alas Tapatalk is useless. Thanks!
whats wrong with the kernel that comes with your current ics rom?
I always thought of Semaphore as the more basic one. No matter what kernel, you can always leave the settings untouched. If you look through that rom's thread, you'll probably find some good suggestions.
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I always thought of Semaphore as the more basic one. No matter what kernel, you can always leave the settings untouched. If you look through that rom's thread, you'll probably find some good suggestions.
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I actually had an issue with Semaphore. I don't remember what it was though.
I was hoping there's something that has zero tweaks just so I can figure out what's going on with my batteries. They seem to die much faster than they used to.
The problem with running these kernels at defaults is they're also modified code-wise, at least as far as I understand, so there are things you can't turn off or zero out to get true stock behavior.
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whats wrong with the kernel that comes with your current ics rom?
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It comes with Devil.
Slim ROM is pretty no nonsense. By default, the kernel has no tweaks activated, I believe. I can't recall off the top of my head the name of that kernel.
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Slim ROM is pretty no nonsense. By default, the kernel has no tweaks activated, I believe. I can't recall off the top of my head the name of that kernel.
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Thanks man.
I'll have to ask if they can pull it out. I don't really have a desire to change since I'm enjoying my ROM and it used to have great battery life. Despite a total wipe it seems to have gone to the pooper after futzing too much.
Slimrom was my favorite till i went to jelly bean. Also i think the stock sgs2 kernel comes with the rom, but Im not 100% sure about that.
The CM9 kernel is pretty generic
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What's the difference between all these ICS ROMs/ports?

I know. I can read. I have read OPs and most posts. I want to know what makes each ROM/port different. Each of them have almost same features and looks. I'm asking comparing CM9 vs Stock vs AOKP vs Slim vs Beam vs etc and cMIUI vs MIUI. I'm not complaining, just want people to share what make them choose one ROM over the other because all are smooth and fast and awesome and so on the same generic descriptions... Let's be honest, most of the has mainly same features, like to mod battery icon, clock, toggles, drawer, theme, lockscreen, some apps here and not there, different bootanimation, etc... you know what I mean. So what is it then? Please, elaborate some answers.
To me, there is a noticeable difference between all mentioned and RemICS and so with AOKPCB but mostly because of the theme/looks and some apps and few features.
I would like to read something else than just "X ROM is fast and smoother" and yes I know everyone is different so they get different experience with their ROM of choice, but what makes you choose a ROM over the other. That's the thing
No trolling allowed and it's not my intention to offend anyone. I appreciate all projects and stuff here, I'm not complaining. Just curious.
U can go to other forum like i9000 and nexus S and ask this question there, too ...they r just for your own choice lol, just flash one u like
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chris31jct said:
I know. I can read. I have read OPs and most posts. I want to know what makes each ROM/port different. Each of them have almost same features and looks. I'm asking comparing CM9 vs Stock vs AOKP vs Slim vs Beam vs etc and cMIUI vs MIUI. I'm not complaining, just want people to share what make them choose one ROM over the other because all are smooth and fast and awesome and so on the same generic descriptions... Let's be honest, most of the has mainly same features, like to mod battery icon, clock, toggles, drawer, theme, lockscreen, some apps here and not there, different bootanimation, etc... you know what I mean. So what is it then? Please, elaborate some answers.
To me, there is a noticeable difference between all mentioned and RemICS and so with AOKPCB but mostly because of the theme/looks and some apps and few features.
I would like to read something else than just "X ROM is fast and smoother" and yes I know everyone is different so they get different experience with their ROM of choice, but what makes you choose a ROM over the other. That's the thing
No trolling allowed and it's not my intention to offend anyone. I appreciate all projects and stuff here, I'm not complaining. Just curious.
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They basically all come from the same base as far as Android OS goes, and as far as comparing no one can tell you what to choose. I know you are not asking for someone to choose for you, but that kinda is where the question leads. Compare them for yourself. See what you like. They all have their own flavor, mods, tweaks. Some are closer to stock, others are heavily modded. That's your answer in a nutshell. No one is gonna sit down and draw you up a chart of features for each rom.
@dao
I can ask there but that's not my phone and that doesn't answer my question. It's obvious they are there for choice, how to choose then? Why? That's what I would like to read. BTW, thanks for updating RemICS.
@greg
I have used them all. That's why I'm asking.
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@dao
I can ask there but that's not my phone and that doesn't answer my question. It's obvious they are there for choice, how to choose then? Why? That's what I would like to read. BTW, thanks for updating RemICS.
@greg
I have used them all. That's why I'm asking.
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You just have to choose what you like and what works for you. It's that simple. Until Aries is released and we have an updated kernel, they are all about the same, but Aries will fix some issues. Like those blasted capacitive back lights timing out.
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What made you choose miui for your phone? Did you try different ROMs before?
@HKSpeed
Oh, I haven't updated that... I'm on CM9 at the moment. My ROMs of choice are Team Acid's. I have been using their work since Froyo so I'm biased. I was on AOKP but battery was a big issue for me, it drained very fast, so I went on CM9 to see how it works since most other ROMs are based on it. Thought it should be more simple, less tweaked. I have tried all, except Linaro and Provision. I like them all but somehow I can't notice difference between them except but a few little things here and there.
I was on MIUI because Dao kept updating it and fast. It was more advanced than other ports/ROMs, then I went on AOKPBC just to see and the theme was too heavy, awesome but not what I was looking for.
I'm not saying I will stay on CM forever, might go on a flashing rampage sometime soon. I know these are WIP that depend on kernel so until then I shall keep experimenting.
I know the others have said pretty much the same thing I am saying, but it comes down to a matter of choice. The ICS roms are all CM9 base if I am not mistaken, so you are dealing with mostly the same issues and bugs on each, so it really comes down to a point of which theme you want and which apps/bloat you want. It becomes a real pain to have to debloat/rebloat a rom and I only ever do so if the theme and layout is custom and really nice but fun to use. If it's basically a stock rom and doesn't have typical apps/bloat/mods/tweaks that I am used to using, I hit the thanks button for the hard work that helps future devs have an easier time and keep looking for a rom that has everything I want. Right now, I am going to be selling my phone soon so I can get a SGS III at least, or maybe wait to see if the rumors are true and T-Mob gets the One X+. I'm drooling over that OC'd Tegra 3 ::fingers-crossed: But, that doesn't mean I won't be trying out different roms at the moment. I love the ICS roms but hate that I can't use calling over wifi. I know there are other options, but they are a bit of trouble with linking google voice among other things, so ICS isn't really for me yet even though it is beautiful. There's my choice...what's yours?
Ive tried to not post but it bothers me when people cant understand a simple question.
Chris31jct is NOT asking for you to convince him. He is asking why did YOU choose a specific rom.
He is also asking for a reason other than the generic responses given 90% of the time.
I started out on aokp then when slimics was released I used it for a while. I wanted to try aokp to see why it was so popular. I like aokp the customization options its a nice rom. I wanted to try slimics just because it doesnt have all the extra apk that aokp and cm9 have that I never use.
Most of the time I will test a rom just to see what the hype is.
3 things decide your choice of a ROM:
Stability
Customization
Battery consumption
In terms of Stability, Usually the higher the customization and options of a ROM, the more conflicts it has( not a rule).
Battery should be the same on all since they use same code and kernel.
Graphic Customization: AOKP is the Best
Settings and options: CM9 is the best
Stability + Battery: I personally prefer SlimRom or Stock cuz it has the most required customization and its very slim( about 80 mb) so probably lighter on your phone.
I wasn't trying to convince him. I know he'll choose whatever rom he wants and that's not for me to decide and/or judge. I was merely stating why most of us choose the roms we choose which is what I interpreted the question to be. The reasons I gave are the reasons I choose the roms I choose. I don't mean to speak for everyone, but that would be the most basic reason to choose a rom other than just to try out what is out there but we ultimately stick with certain roms due to what's included in the rom as well as the stability of it, although as stated before by more than just me, the ICS roms have the same bugs and therefor the same stability issues. Again, not trying to step on anyone's toes, I don't claim to speak for everyone, but I answered the question as I interpreted it.
Also, as to specific roms, I'd be here all day if I chose to speak on that because I started using custom roms on my old G1 and I've tried out probably over 100 roms for various phones over the last few years. For that matter, I could go way back to the days of the Motorola Razor and a few other phones out around the same time, but I was speaking more about android roms. As far as the roms is concerned I don't care if it's miui, ICS, AOKP, etc. If it has the features I'm looking for and is stable, then I use it until something comes around I like better.
I went with AOKP because
It had full source code and I could modify it as I wanted
I liked the layout of toggles
AOKP ROM Control had features I wanted
I could long-press Back to kill a process
It has "quiet hours"
It has decent control of background data use
I knew where the kernel came from and it has full source code
I knew where all binaries came from and it has full source code
I know the last two of these are an absolute requirement under GPL, but many ROM "authors" fail to provide this information.
AOKP has some "crap" that I freeze to improve performance, but I haven't run out of on-phone storage yet.
CyanogenMod 9, for me, wasn't quite as "usable" as AOKP, the way I use my phone.
MIUI is too "Technicolor" and gimmicky for me. Most of what it has (other than a decent File Explorer, when it doesn't crash) I consider "bloat."
SLIM seemed like a good candidate, but without easy access to full source and the ability to build as I desired, it wasn't on my short list. I tried Lightning or whatever its "default" launcher is, but it had a couple things that just didn't allow me to set up my phone the way I wanted (paging is "wonky" to the way I have come to think of a launcher).
Kernel -- Well, Hefe Kernel pretty clearly added what I wanted; better battery life without significant impact in responsiveness. I'm glad others find what works for me helping them out too.
The Zip-n-Go ROMs don't, in general, excite me. I'm not a big theme guy and I can add/remove what I want pretty easily myself.
@krazymonkeys
I understand your point. I also try everything and then stick to one ROM.
@eollie
Thanks bro.
@jeff
That's the best example of kind of answer I was looking for. Thanks!
I'm on Erik's MIUI 2.8.10.
I tried it because I like the UI: I like the notification bar and full screen toggles, I like the kill app back button feature, the task manager combined task killer home button and all the sys apps. It is super fast, lighweight and easy to use. It is stable and gives instant GPS lock.
Only problem is the battery consumption, but it's kernel related I believe.
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@itzik2sh
I tried MIUI but it is too bright. Don't get me wrong. I like it a lot. But since we don't have Automatic Brightness, then it was a pain. Anyway, it's a great ROM and I think battery didn't drain more than it does on other ROMs. What I love most about MIUI is the phone and text's apps.

CleanRom 2.3 or CM10 nigthly? can't decide.

I would like to know which one performs best or if its based on preference. I know the developers have made an outstanding job making these roms but I can't decide on wich one. Comments and opinions are highly appreciated!
itrof61 said:
I would like to know which one performs best or if its based on preference. I know the developers have made an outstanding job making these roms but I can't decide on wich one. Comments and opinions are highly appreciated!
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Here is my short opinion:
Performance=about the same
Stable=Cleanrom(zero bug for me), CM10=buggy.
Features=CM10 (more bells and whistles
So if you just want a stable fast rom then use Cleanrom with Clemsy Kernel and data2sd...you're flying.
If you want to play with feature sets (looking for cool things) then go with CM10
What kind of cool things?
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Thanks!!
sai561 said:
What kind of cool things?
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Like vol button control camera zoom in/out...Currently, not much, since there are many bugs, but the goal for CM10 here is (once all the bugs are done), to have all the bells and whistles (like stuff on note2 may be implement here). For Cleanrom the OP would like to stick to STOCK as much as possible.
I had Baked Bean a long time and decided to try CleanRom 2.3 and did so by first updating my hboot via the official jb. Changed kernel to Clemsyn's build 22 and boy my tab is flying! Turned Forced GPU rendering on too and its blazing performance wise. Baked beans got more customizing for you. Bit I'll stick with this setup for a while.
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Clemsyns kernel can be used with cleanrom 2.3 right?
Im asking because it says cm10 version in the tread.
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Clemsyns kernel can be used with cleanrom 2.3 right?
Im asking because it says cm10 version in the tread.
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Here ya go Click this ones for cleanrom 2.3
Cleanrom zero bugs here.
OK, here is a question. Is there a difference between stock and non-stock roms in how the device deals with the keyboard dock?
Also, non-stock will be missing the ASUS customized settings, correct? So what does that mean for the screen saver, dock-unlock, system performance settings, touchpad options, etc?
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OK, here is a question. Is there a difference between stock and non-stock roms in how the device deals with the keyboard dock?
Also, non-stock will be missing the ASUS customized settings, correct? So what does that mean for the screen saver, dock-unlock, system performance settings, touchpad options, etc?
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Clean Rom has everything (apps / user settings) just as stock.
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Clean Rom has everything (apps / user settings) just as stock.
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Right, because it is based on stock. I was more asking about non-stock such as CM, AOSP or AOKP.
GaryParr said:
OK, here is a question. Is there a difference between stock and non-stock roms in how the device deals with the keyboard dock?
Also, non-stock will be missing the ASUS customized settings, correct? So what does that mean for the screen saver, dock-unlock, system performance settings, touchpad options, etc?
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To answer your question:
1. Yes, in that the CM/AOSP/AOKP ROMs do not properly support most keyboard shortcut keys, and some of them do funky things with the volume keys on the tablet as well.
2. Non-stock ROMs: No screen saver; dock unlock works fine, but see point 1 above. System performance settings: some work more or less okay, others do not. CPU scaling seems unreliable. Brightness settings varies as well: some report the highest brightness available being Super IPS+, others say the highest brightness is significantly less bright than that. I have no other light meters available than those that Nature gave me (meh ), so I wouldn't be able to definitively tell you. The touchpad cannot be disabled on non-stock ROMs (which is THE most important dealbreaker for me). Sound sometimes is funky as well.
I'm very happy with CleanROM (except for those dodgy notifications).
How big of a difference in speed and fluidity is there between stock JB and CleanROM 2.3?
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How big of a difference in speed and fluidity is there between stock JB and CleanROM 2.3?
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I do not believe in benchmarking (far too artificial), so I do not have hard numbers for you. On stock JB, I still saw I/O issues, even when transferring relatively small files. I transferred over 6 GB of files yesterday (e-books, specifically, lots of 'em) and it was fast -- the pauses have been reduced to very, very minor instances on CleanROM 2.3.
Fluidity... Very subjective. I was blown away by the smoothness of CleanROM 2.2, and told Scott I did not believe he could further improve on that. He just smiled. He did it again with 2.3 -- he has made some incredible strides. I haven't tried the latest and greatest ASUS stock JB ROM, however -- it might have improved on fluidity significantly. The only way to tell is to test it yourself.
My expectation, based on experience with the stock ROMs: they're built more for reliability than for speed or fluidity (relatively speaking), so I'm not even considering letting CleanROM go.
Hope it helps, even if a tiny bit.
Thanks! Yes it does. I'm picking up the 64gb next week so I guess I can just install the JB stock first before I switch over to CleanROM.
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I can just install the JB stock first before I switch over to CleanROM.
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NO! WRONG WRONG WRONG!
You're not actually wrong at all about the upgrade/rom sequence you should flash but I wanted to make sure I had your attention. I don't know how much you've scoured the forums, but for the love of god use NVFlash before you install any updates, linked here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1901479
This essentially makes a device-specific backup that can be restored no matter what you do to the device software-wise. As the thread points out, it is an absolute failsafe against any and all softbricks.
This process is incompatible with the bootloader packaged with stock JB, so it's essential that you use NVFlash first. You can use the backup you'll create with the new bootloader once you do upgrade, but you won't be able to make one in the first place if you OTA first. If you don't do this before JB and something goes awry with flashing, you're totally out of luck. Especially with the warranty you're giving up.
In summary you'll want to go:
NVFlash -> Stock JB -> CleanRom
Sorry for the drama I neglected to do this before JB, and I'm still kicking myself. I also realize there's a solid chance you know all of this already and are rolling your eyes at the three-post junior member right now. I figure the risk of sounding condescending is worth it if I could save someone else the hassle.
Best of luck!
B00T_Sp0rk said:
Sorry for the drama I neglected to do this before JB, and I'm still kicking myself. I also realize there's a solid chance you know all of this already and are rolling your eyes at the three-post junior member right now. I figure the risk of sounding condescending is worth it if I could save someone else the hassle.
Best of luck!
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No apologies necessary the risk WAS worth it! I had only started scouting the TF700 forum and did not realize I would have ended up screwing myself just like I had with my HOXL. Thanks for the heads up!

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