No-nonsense ICS Kernel? - Captivate General

Is there a Plain Jane ol' basic kernel for ICS AOKP that doesn't do anything except behave the way stock should?
We all like to play and tweak but I'd like something basic to have as a baseline...possibly even run permanently.
I searched but alas Tapatalk is useless. Thanks!

whats wrong with the kernel that comes with your current ics rom?

I always thought of Semaphore as the more basic one. No matter what kernel, you can always leave the settings untouched. If you look through that rom's thread, you'll probably find some good suggestions.

wwcjr91 said:
I always thought of Semaphore as the more basic one. No matter what kernel, you can always leave the settings untouched. If you look through that rom's thread, you'll probably find some good suggestions.
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I actually had an issue with Semaphore. I don't remember what it was though.
I was hoping there's something that has zero tweaks just so I can figure out what's going on with my batteries. They seem to die much faster than they used to.
The problem with running these kernels at defaults is they're also modified code-wise, at least as far as I understand, so there are things you can't turn off or zero out to get true stock behavior.

d4rklotus said:
whats wrong with the kernel that comes with your current ics rom?
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It comes with Devil.

Slim ROM is pretty no nonsense. By default, the kernel has no tweaks activated, I believe. I can't recall off the top of my head the name of that kernel.

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Slim ROM is pretty no nonsense. By default, the kernel has no tweaks activated, I believe. I can't recall off the top of my head the name of that kernel.
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Thanks man.
I'll have to ask if they can pull it out. I don't really have a desire to change since I'm enjoying my ROM and it used to have great battery life. Despite a total wipe it seems to have gone to the pooper after futzing too much.

Slimrom was my favorite till i went to jelly bean. Also i think the stock sgs2 kernel comes with the rom, but Im not 100% sure about that.

The CM9 kernel is pretty generic
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rooted and unlocked my 2.1 android, now what?

What ROM should I get to increase the phones overall performance and responsiveness? I just want something that is very stable and something that will improve my phone in a good way.
Every single rom is gonna be a million times better than stock eclair...for your first time I would stick with a froyo rom as those are easier to flash. Just pick one
oh man.. where to start. Honestly it varies so much from user to user. Your best bet is to hop on some of the threads and read some of the comments.. first few pages and the last few.. try to get an idea of how well the ROM is working for users and battery life. There are a plethora of 2.2.1 ROMs with excellent battery life. The gingerbread ROMs are coming around to having decent to good battery life. But again, it all varies from user to user.
Good 2.2 or 2.2.1 ROMs
Serendipity, Paragon, Phoenix, Ultimate and theres more of coarse, these were among my top choices.
A lot of the gingerbread ROMs can be found in the first page of development.
But please use the search function. There has been multiple threads started with the same question.. about the same topic.
Once you go serendepity, you can't go back. but seriously I tried a lot of roms and serendipity is BY FAR the best!
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I tried serendipity and its a great rom but I like a side scrolling app drawer as opposed to the cube effect. I use apex 5.3 (froyo 2.2.1) not to be confused with apex 6.x( gingerbread) because its simply works. The five dock bottom is great and battery life is amazing. And the jk4 modem actually gets me much better reception than the stock kb1. but if you like the stock feel cognition is the way to go
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I flashed Serendipity 6.4. So far the first thing that I noticed is that the apps are organized scrolling down, not side to side which is the one thing that I do not liked very much. everything else seems to be very good.
Toad858, which version and where did you the 5.3?
also what kernel do I need?
matase said:
I flashed Serendipity 6.4. So far the first thing that I noticed is that the apps are organized scrolling down, not side to side which is the one thing that I do not liked very much. everything else seems to be very good.
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If you'd like to use your original TouchWiz side-scrolling app drawer, give Cognition a try instead. Cognition is best-known as the 2.2 ROM that tries to stay as close as possible to the original, with a ton of under-the-hood features and fixes (like lagfix), minus the bloatware.
(I can't stand TouchWiz, but still love Cog's stability, so I use Launcher Pro (with its vertical app drawer) instead)
cognition rom is my favorite rom when it comes to stability. and its smooth as ever now.
I think I will stick to serendipity. Now I am trying to figure out what modems do and if I need one to be able to use a kernel? I was looking at Onix Kernel and it says "Since based on i9000 sources, use an i9000 modem". I am not sure what a modem is first of all.
matase said:
I think I will stick to serendipity. Now I am trying to figure out what modems do and if I need one to be able to use a kernel? I was looking at Onix Kernel and it says "Since based on i9000 sources, use an i9000 modem". I am not sure what a modem is first of all.
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Its your radio..what gives the phone reception.
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matase said:
I think I will stick to serendipity. Now I am trying to figure out what modems do and if I need one to be able to use a kernel? I was looking at Onix Kernel and it says "Since based on i9000 sources, use an i9000 modem". I am not sure what a modem is first of all.
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technically, as long as everything works for you as of right now - you're done. You can sit back and enjoy the rom. If you feel ambitious, you can try a different kernel. I dont know what serendipity uses but I found the Onix kernel to be one of the smoothest froyo kernel, available. Thats, of course, my opinion though.
would it be possible to get other keyboards on my phone now? like android or samsung keyboard?
matase said:
would it be possible to get other keyboards on my phone now? like android or samsung keyboard?
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You didnt need to root for that, go to Market and download away
Serendipity 6.4, Speedmod K13E-500MHz, I9000UGKC1.
You're set. It's 100% stable and works brilliantly. GB is still a bit flaky.
Aus_Azn said:
Serendipity 6.4, Speedmod K13E-500MHz, I9000UGKC1.
You're set. It's 100% stable and works brilliantly. GB is still a bit flaky.
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why do I need I9000UGKC1?
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why do I need I9000UGKC1?
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That's what's packaged in the rom. You don't NEED that modem specifically or need to change ... Unless you're cell signal sucks then check out the modem sticky at the top of the dev section. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=876391 You do need an I9000 modem because the kernel in serendipity is based off I9000 sources.
What you NEED to do is stop right now. Enjoy your phone and READ everything you can. Once you feel comfortable with flashing and knowing how to get yourself out of bad situations, flash away. No one can tell you which rom is best for you. You're more than welcome to narrow your choice to a few, then try them out or try them all. The key is knowing how to do it and the things that can happen.
You may also benefit from THIS new thread
Apex 5.3, as most other roms do, comes with a great kernel and modem so you dont have to worry about it. I cant link the thread right now but you can search for it under development
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[Q] What rom is legitimately best for mesmerize?

I know, I know, this sounds like a typical newbie opinion question. But I'm not exactly looking for opinion here. I'm looking for FACTS pertaining to which ROM is going to give me the most optimized performance (un-altered benchmarks or whatever) while still giving me the most functionality(I.E. all aspects of device performing as well or better than stock). I got this device a little over a week ago, and really like it. I have been reading thread after thread and just want some help, so please don't think I'm just looking for a quick un-researched answer. I am looking for legitimate advice. I am currently running VOODOO kernal and oc'd to 1.2 ghz and getting benchmarks around 1650 ish? i believe. I do like TW, but dont swear by it. I tried MIUI, and i cant really stand it. CM doesn't want to flash right either, and i don't know which direction i want to go. I also feel this thread might help others in my position. Does PnP offer noticeable performance increases, aside from removed bloat? Thanks in advance for any advice provided!
Heintz 57 is the best, most stable and functional. Everything works. PnP is a very close second and everything works as well. I say try em all. I have and keep finding myself back on H57. It's really a matter of seeing which one best fits YOUR needs and style.
SRGaudio said:
I know, I know, this sounds like a typical newbie opinion question. But I'm not exactly looking for opinion here. I'm looking for FACTS pertaining to which ROM is going to give me the most optimized performance (un-altered benchmarks or whatever) while still giving me the most functionality(I.E. all aspects of device performing as well or better than stock). I got this device a little over a week ago, and really like it. I have been reading thread after thread and just want some help, so please don't think I'm just looking for a quick un-researched answer. I am looking for legitimate advice. I am currently running VOODOO kernal and oc'd to 1.2 ghz and getting benchmarks around 1650 ish? i believe. I do like TW, but dont swear by it. I tried MIUI, and i cant really stand it. CM doesn't want to flash right either, and i don't know which direction i want to go. I also feel this thread might help others in my position. Does PnP offer noticeable performance increases, aside from removed bloat? Thanks in advance for any advice provided!
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I prefer miui, hands down, and i've tried them all. Miui + glitches kernel, i can get over 3k quad scores. Not to mention, its super cusomizable--super easy to change themes (no need to flash). Not to mention, it's updated weekly by a great team of developers so it's constantly improving.
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I prefer miui, hands down, and i've tried them all. Miui + glitches kernel, i can get over 3k quad scores. Not to mention, its super cusomizable--super easy to change themes (no need to flash). Not to mention, it's updated weekly by a great team of developers so it's constantly improving.
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I am running the same MIUI and Glitch and it is impressive, smooth, very customizable ect. For pure performance I found JT's Vanilla GB V6 with either his new kernel V3 or Glitch Kernel to be the fastest performer. Any of the MTD based ROMs seem to perform better and I won't go back myself.
miui ftw.
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Any mtd rom but my favorite is miui
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Miui is sex. Somebody used to put a lot of hard work into porting it for us, hmm perhaps he's off developing elsewhere.
I heard there is a good trigger rom around somewhere. I forget who the dev was but he used to be here. He was AWESOME! But they kicked him out for some reason
I honestly like the MIUI rom. Everything looks and works amazingly. Only one bug atm, no MMS while you are on Wifi. So.. all you do is just disable it and then get your MMS's, and then go back on. It works.
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I honestly like the MIUI rom. Everything looks and works amazingly. Only one bug atm, no MMS while you are on Wifi. So.. all you do is just disable it and then get your MMS's, and then go back on. It works.
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Mms has never worked on wifi got any rom, even stock.
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CM7 is my favorite. It's well thought out by the original developers, looks great, runs good, and will run 3x the benchmark your friends still on stock will! That being said, it's still under development, and will sometimes do some strange things. For example, I woke up one morning to find my screen was on with colors inverted. Had to pull the battery to unfreeze it.
So, for stable ROM, I like H57. It's not as new and sleek, but it's stable and works perfectly!
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Well said.
add144 said:
Well said.
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Give him credit, it's one of the smartest posts all day.
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You guys crack me up...
kallell said:
I prefer miui, hands down, and i've tried them all. Miui + glitches kernel, i can get over 3k quad scores. Not to mention, its super cusomizable--super easy to change themes (no need to flash). Not to mention, it's updated weekly by a great team of developers so it's constantly improving.
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Can someone post links to the MIUI thread, and links to glitches kernel? I'm running pick-n-pack and ready to try something new. I want to make sure I grab the right files and get this going but I am having a hard time finding the right things. I just need someone that can confirm what the latest files are so i grab the right stuff. I guess I am looking for MIUI and Glitches Kernel. I should be able to figure out how to root, red recovery and use odin out as I've done all of those before.
Thanks.
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Can someone post links to the MIUI thread, and links to glitches kernel? I'm running pick-n-pack and ready to try something new. I want to make sure I grab the right files and get this going but I am having a hard time finding the right things. I just need someone that can confirm what the latest files are so i grab the right stuff. I guess I am looking for MIUI and Glitches Kernel. I should be able to figure out how to root, red recovery and use odin out as I've done all of those before.
Thanks.
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I would stick with the bundled JT's kernel for the moment. Right now if you flash the latest MIUI then the Glitch kernel, you'll lose all sensors. It sounds like they should have the problem fixed soon, though.
Thanks for the quick reply. Are the links in your sig where I can watch for this to make sure I can do this when it's fixed?
You wont find the latest MIUI releases on here anymore. [mod edit: you know the rules....]
I can't seem to find the latest stable build for Heinz, can anyone link?
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[Q] Which ROM???

So I finally gathered up the balls to flash my Droid with GummyCharged. It's pretty snappy. I like it except for minor glitches here and there but it was manageable. I searched online for more info about Gummy and I found that support for it has dropped.
My question is which ROM should I move my attention to next? I looked at Tweaked and Infinity, but I couldn't help but notice Deodexed/Eclipse.
It seems there's an equal amount of information on them but I couldn't really find any info about which one has the most support or which one is the obvious forerunner of the three.
So community, what is your opinion? What do you like best and why?
the only few worth ur time is tweaked, eclipse, or infinity. the others r all outdated and no longer updated. or the fp1 debloated but that isnt a custom rom really.
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There isn't really a forerunner. It's more about personal preference. Tweaked is the most customizable. Eclipse has a lot more apps replaced with their AOSP (Google) equivalents. Infinity is still a valid choice as well. I love the Infinity theme, but I personally have always had slowdowns and hotboots on it. It falls somewhere in between Tweaked and Eclipse...a good amount of customization as well as some AOSP app replacements.
I would run either Tweaked or Eclipse. I ran Eclipse from the time it was on version 1.1 up until Tweaked 2.0 came out, then I switched to Tweaked.
Specify!
I think it would be appropriate for me to specify what exactly I'm looking for. Thanks for your response shrike. What I'm looking for is the least buggy, most responsive ROM that offers reasonable battery. Customizable features is nice but that's exactly a must.
So I see the poll is shooting towards Tweaked, so I guess I'll ask, is Tweaked the most appropriate ROM that will fulfill most of what I'm looking for, if not all?
And by AOSP, what do you mean Eclipse has AOSP equivalents? (Ignorant question lol). I read about it but I don't want to interpret what I've read incorrectly.
Thanks again!
Nitro took the AOSP code from Google and compiled some of the apps for our this phone, and replaced a lot of the TouchWiz apps with the AOSP equivalents. If you want something closer to AOSP, then Eclipse is the closest we have (other than jt's unfinished CM9 port), but it is still TouchWiz at it's core.
From a stability standpoint, I've had zero stability problems with both Eclipse and Tweaked. Eclipse is farther from stock when you consider the apps and the look and feel. Tweaked is closer to stock from an app standpoint, but the framework has been more heavily modified to integrate the customizations (TSM Parts primarily).
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I think it would be appropriate for me to specify what exactly I'm looking for. Thanks for your response shrike. What I'm looking for is the least buggy, most responsive ROM that offers reasonable battery. Customizable features is nice but that's exactly a must.
So I see the poll is shooting towards Tweaked, so I guess I'll ask, is Tweaked the most appropriate ROM that will fulfill most of what I'm looking for, if not all?
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Based on what you're looking for, I'd recommend Eclipse. I'm currently using Tweaked because I like the statusbar customization options, but everyday I experience a few freezeups that persist until I get a hotboot or I pull the battery. I've reinstalled several times after going back to stock EP4, and I've gotten the freezeups after each new installation. This has been the case regardless of whether I'm on the stock FP1 kernel or the 0415 pbj kernel. I never had this issue with Eclipse.
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Based on what you're looking for, I'd recommend Eclipse. I'm currently using Tweaked because I like the statusbar customization options, but everyday I experience a few freezeups that persist until I get a hotboot or I pull the battery. I've reinstalled several times after going back to stock EP4, and I've gotten the freezeups after each new installation. This has been the case regardless of whether I'm on the stock FP1 kernel or the 0415 pbj kernel. I never had this issue with Eclipse.
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Sorry to hear the troubles - while the description here is a bit too vague for me to be of much help, would you mind PMing me some specifics? Plus if there is any regularity maybe you could get a logcat?
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Based on what you're looking for, I'd recommend Eclipse. I'm currently using Tweaked because I like the statusbar customization options, but everyday I experience a few freezeups that persist until I get a hotboot or I pull the battery. I've reinstalled several times after going back to stock EP4, and I've gotten the freezeups after each new installation. This has been the case regardless of whether I'm on the stock FP1 kernel or the 0415 pbj kernel. I never had this issue with Eclipse.
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I flashed Eclipse. I'm liking it a lot. So far so good! I had one interesting occurrence though, it prompted for a system update. I clicked on it to update (not expecting it to but just to see what happens) and nothing did happen. I know when I had my LG Revolution with Gingervolt on it, those system updates caused issues with rebooting and turning off. So far I have no issues, but should there be a concern for this? Other than that, I am pleased.
Thanks Nitro! and thanks to the rest of you all for your feedback. My phone is impressing the crowd and has taken a nice warm dump on my friend's iPhone.
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I flashed Eclipse. I'm liking it a lot. So far so good! I had one interesting occurrence though, it prompted for a system update. I clicked on it to update (not expecting it to but just to see what happens) and nothing did happen. I know when I had my LG Revolution with Gingervolt on it, those system updates caused issues with rebooting and turning off. So far I have no issues, but should there be a concern for this? Other than that, I am pleased.
Thanks Nitro! and thanks to the rest of you all for your feedback. My phone is impressing the crowd and has taken a nice warm dump on my friend's iPhone.
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If you keep getting update notifications, you can see this thread:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/21207-stop-ota-notification/

Which TW Rom?

I haven't rooted my phone yet, but i've been following the cm10 forums and it seems its still pretty buggy right now. I haven't seen much about the tw roms like synergy or beans. Which would you guys prefer and recommend for the most stable and best performance tw rom.
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I haven't rooted my phone yet, but i've been following the cm10 forums and it seems its still pretty buggy right now. I haven't seen much about the tw roms like synergy or beans. Which would you guys prefer and recommend for the most stable and best performance tw rom.
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also interested. i havent flashed roms in a while but i like soem of the touchwiz features.
CM10 wont have motion control support, right?
No, CM10 does not have Motion Control support right now, though the Alpha build for CM10 works well, I wasn't pleased with the battery life. So, I'm about to ty CleanROM. Synergy wasn't for me, but it is a solid ROM. For 4.1 and Motion support, best bet is to wait for Samsung to release 4.1 for the GSIII, eventually somebody will root it, and that should include motion support.
I prefer Synergy, its always been great for me, and i get amazing battery life with it. I haven't tried beans so i can't comment on his, but it really boils down to personal preference. Some will say synergy and some will say beans.
Does synergy have any big bugs that someone would not flash because of it? And how is the data reception, i haven't been getting that good of reception even with stock.
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Does synergy have any big bugs that someone would not flash because of it? And how is the data reception, i haven't been getting that good of reception even with stock.
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The latest nightly appears to have everything worked out and data reception for me has been great.
Personally, I use SynergyROM (currently nightly R50).
I have yet to encounter any significant bugs. The Samsung Motion controls seem a bit off, but I'm not sure if that's how stock is or if it's just the ROM.
As for your questions about reception, SynergyROM has increased WiFi and Data transmit power. It supposedly means faster speeds, which I assume is achieved through a stronger connection?
Running Scott's CleanRom and it runs great. I see new version 2.0 is out now.
Cleanrom IS the only ROM I haven't tried as it wasn't out yet, but of all the others I kept returning to root66 as everything Single thing works perfectly, it is the fastest set-up I have ever used on ANY phone and battery life is as good as any other ROM (regardless of some of the ludicrous claims posters make for battery life)
Bean 8 with imosyeons LeanKernel 2.2 > Root66>Synergy 1.7...have not tried clean rom.
I've seen no bugs so far in the latest Synergy nightly (r50). Synergy has been my daily driver for a while now and is very stable with excellent support from the developer. Highly recommend.
CleanROM 2.0 just came out today and from the description sounds great. However, several of the bloatware apps appeared after installation (VZ Navigator, Color, etc) even though I de-selected them in the installer. I'm trying to get my post count to 10 so I can let the dev know in his own thread.
Seems people are saying different ones are the best. Still not sure so i'll probably look more into each one.
They didnt appear in mines
VERIZON GALAXY S 3 (CM10)
The NoSympathy ROM is pretty dang awesome. Pretty much just root, deodexed, and zip-aligned. I ran it with lean kernel and it was very happy with performance. I honestly think it is a great combination of performance and stock TW.
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The NoSympathy ROM is pretty dang awesome. Pretty much just root, deodexed, and zip-aligned. I ran it with lean kernel and it was very happy with performance. I honestly think it is a great combination of performance and stock TW.
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Is the "VRALF2 vs G1" referring to the kernel, the ROM, or the radio/modem. I get so confused with all the conflicting terminology on these forums.
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Seems people are saying different ones are the best. Still not sure so i'll probably look more into each one.
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different roms for different needs.
research them and see which is best for yours!
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Is the "VRALF2 vs G1" referring to the kernel, the ROM, or the radio/modem. I get so confused with all the conflicting terminology on these forums.
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All of the above, in each context. F2 and G1 are two different builds (official ones from Samsung), which each have their own kernel, system base, and radios. You wouldn't mix and match kernels with system bases, but radios are interchangeable. I recommend the latest G1 radio, for the record.
Most TW ROMs get built off the latest base (and get ported over to new bases when they are released), because they tend to add bug fixes. You should know which build your ROM is based off, because in some cases third-party kernels can be compatible with one base and not another. Read carefully.

CleanRom 2.3 or CM10 nigthly? can't decide.

I would like to know which one performs best or if its based on preference. I know the developers have made an outstanding job making these roms but I can't decide on wich one. Comments and opinions are highly appreciated!
itrof61 said:
I would like to know which one performs best or if its based on preference. I know the developers have made an outstanding job making these roms but I can't decide on wich one. Comments and opinions are highly appreciated!
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Here is my short opinion:
Performance=about the same
Stable=Cleanrom(zero bug for me), CM10=buggy.
Features=CM10 (more bells and whistles
So if you just want a stable fast rom then use Cleanrom with Clemsy Kernel and data2sd...you're flying.
If you want to play with feature sets (looking for cool things) then go with CM10
What kind of cool things?
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What kind of cool things?
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Like vol button control camera zoom in/out...Currently, not much, since there are many bugs, but the goal for CM10 here is (once all the bugs are done), to have all the bells and whistles (like stuff on note2 may be implement here). For Cleanrom the OP would like to stick to STOCK as much as possible.
I had Baked Bean a long time and decided to try CleanRom 2.3 and did so by first updating my hboot via the official jb. Changed kernel to Clemsyn's build 22 and boy my tab is flying! Turned Forced GPU rendering on too and its blazing performance wise. Baked beans got more customizing for you. Bit I'll stick with this setup for a while.
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Clemsyns kernel can be used with cleanrom 2.3 right?
Im asking because it says cm10 version in the tread.
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Clemsyns kernel can be used with cleanrom 2.3 right?
Im asking because it says cm10 version in the tread.
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Here ya go Click this ones for cleanrom 2.3
Cleanrom zero bugs here.
OK, here is a question. Is there a difference between stock and non-stock roms in how the device deals with the keyboard dock?
Also, non-stock will be missing the ASUS customized settings, correct? So what does that mean for the screen saver, dock-unlock, system performance settings, touchpad options, etc?
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OK, here is a question. Is there a difference between stock and non-stock roms in how the device deals with the keyboard dock?
Also, non-stock will be missing the ASUS customized settings, correct? So what does that mean for the screen saver, dock-unlock, system performance settings, touchpad options, etc?
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Clean Rom has everything (apps / user settings) just as stock.
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Clean Rom has everything (apps / user settings) just as stock.
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Right, because it is based on stock. I was more asking about non-stock such as CM, AOSP or AOKP.
GaryParr said:
OK, here is a question. Is there a difference between stock and non-stock roms in how the device deals with the keyboard dock?
Also, non-stock will be missing the ASUS customized settings, correct? So what does that mean for the screen saver, dock-unlock, system performance settings, touchpad options, etc?
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To answer your question:
1. Yes, in that the CM/AOSP/AOKP ROMs do not properly support most keyboard shortcut keys, and some of them do funky things with the volume keys on the tablet as well.
2. Non-stock ROMs: No screen saver; dock unlock works fine, but see point 1 above. System performance settings: some work more or less okay, others do not. CPU scaling seems unreliable. Brightness settings varies as well: some report the highest brightness available being Super IPS+, others say the highest brightness is significantly less bright than that. I have no other light meters available than those that Nature gave me (meh ), so I wouldn't be able to definitively tell you. The touchpad cannot be disabled on non-stock ROMs (which is THE most important dealbreaker for me). Sound sometimes is funky as well.
I'm very happy with CleanROM (except for those dodgy notifications).
How big of a difference in speed and fluidity is there between stock JB and CleanROM 2.3?
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How big of a difference in speed and fluidity is there between stock JB and CleanROM 2.3?
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I do not believe in benchmarking (far too artificial), so I do not have hard numbers for you. On stock JB, I still saw I/O issues, even when transferring relatively small files. I transferred over 6 GB of files yesterday (e-books, specifically, lots of 'em) and it was fast -- the pauses have been reduced to very, very minor instances on CleanROM 2.3.
Fluidity... Very subjective. I was blown away by the smoothness of CleanROM 2.2, and told Scott I did not believe he could further improve on that. He just smiled. He did it again with 2.3 -- he has made some incredible strides. I haven't tried the latest and greatest ASUS stock JB ROM, however -- it might have improved on fluidity significantly. The only way to tell is to test it yourself.
My expectation, based on experience with the stock ROMs: they're built more for reliability than for speed or fluidity (relatively speaking), so I'm not even considering letting CleanROM go.
Hope it helps, even if a tiny bit.
Thanks! Yes it does. I'm picking up the 64gb next week so I guess I can just install the JB stock first before I switch over to CleanROM.
BoosterSilver said:
I can just install the JB stock first before I switch over to CleanROM.
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NO! WRONG WRONG WRONG!
You're not actually wrong at all about the upgrade/rom sequence you should flash but I wanted to make sure I had your attention. I don't know how much you've scoured the forums, but for the love of god use NVFlash before you install any updates, linked here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1901479
This essentially makes a device-specific backup that can be restored no matter what you do to the device software-wise. As the thread points out, it is an absolute failsafe against any and all softbricks.
This process is incompatible with the bootloader packaged with stock JB, so it's essential that you use NVFlash first. You can use the backup you'll create with the new bootloader once you do upgrade, but you won't be able to make one in the first place if you OTA first. If you don't do this before JB and something goes awry with flashing, you're totally out of luck. Especially with the warranty you're giving up.
In summary you'll want to go:
NVFlash -> Stock JB -> CleanRom
Sorry for the drama I neglected to do this before JB, and I'm still kicking myself. I also realize there's a solid chance you know all of this already and are rolling your eyes at the three-post junior member right now. I figure the risk of sounding condescending is worth it if I could save someone else the hassle.
Best of luck!
B00T_Sp0rk said:
Sorry for the drama I neglected to do this before JB, and I'm still kicking myself. I also realize there's a solid chance you know all of this already and are rolling your eyes at the three-post junior member right now. I figure the risk of sounding condescending is worth it if I could save someone else the hassle.
Best of luck!
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No apologies necessary the risk WAS worth it! I had only started scouting the TF700 forum and did not realize I would have ended up screwing myself just like I had with my HOXL. Thanks for the heads up!

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