I would like to know which one performs best or if its based on preference. I know the developers have made an outstanding job making these roms but I can't decide on wich one. Comments and opinions are highly appreciated!
itrof61 said:
I would like to know which one performs best or if its based on preference. I know the developers have made an outstanding job making these roms but I can't decide on wich one. Comments and opinions are highly appreciated!
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Here is my short opinion:
Performance=about the same
Stable=Cleanrom(zero bug for me), CM10=buggy.
Features=CM10 (more bells and whistles
So if you just want a stable fast rom then use Cleanrom with Clemsy Kernel and data2sd...you're flying.
If you want to play with feature sets (looking for cool things) then go with CM10
What kind of cool things?
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What kind of cool things?
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Like vol button control camera zoom in/out...Currently, not much, since there are many bugs, but the goal for CM10 here is (once all the bugs are done), to have all the bells and whistles (like stuff on note2 may be implement here). For Cleanrom the OP would like to stick to STOCK as much as possible.
I had Baked Bean a long time and decided to try CleanRom 2.3 and did so by first updating my hboot via the official jb. Changed kernel to Clemsyn's build 22 and boy my tab is flying! Turned Forced GPU rendering on too and its blazing performance wise. Baked beans got more customizing for you. Bit I'll stick with this setup for a while.
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Clemsyns kernel can be used with cleanrom 2.3 right?
Im asking because it says cm10 version in the tread.
sai561 said:
Clemsyns kernel can be used with cleanrom 2.3 right?
Im asking because it says cm10 version in the tread.
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Here ya go Click this ones for cleanrom 2.3
Cleanrom zero bugs here.
OK, here is a question. Is there a difference between stock and non-stock roms in how the device deals with the keyboard dock?
Also, non-stock will be missing the ASUS customized settings, correct? So what does that mean for the screen saver, dock-unlock, system performance settings, touchpad options, etc?
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OK, here is a question. Is there a difference between stock and non-stock roms in how the device deals with the keyboard dock?
Also, non-stock will be missing the ASUS customized settings, correct? So what does that mean for the screen saver, dock-unlock, system performance settings, touchpad options, etc?
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Clean Rom has everything (apps / user settings) just as stock.
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Clean Rom has everything (apps / user settings) just as stock.
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Right, because it is based on stock. I was more asking about non-stock such as CM, AOSP or AOKP.
GaryParr said:
OK, here is a question. Is there a difference between stock and non-stock roms in how the device deals with the keyboard dock?
Also, non-stock will be missing the ASUS customized settings, correct? So what does that mean for the screen saver, dock-unlock, system performance settings, touchpad options, etc?
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To answer your question:
1. Yes, in that the CM/AOSP/AOKP ROMs do not properly support most keyboard shortcut keys, and some of them do funky things with the volume keys on the tablet as well.
2. Non-stock ROMs: No screen saver; dock unlock works fine, but see point 1 above. System performance settings: some work more or less okay, others do not. CPU scaling seems unreliable. Brightness settings varies as well: some report the highest brightness available being Super IPS+, others say the highest brightness is significantly less bright than that. I have no other light meters available than those that Nature gave me (meh ), so I wouldn't be able to definitively tell you. The touchpad cannot be disabled on non-stock ROMs (which is THE most important dealbreaker for me). Sound sometimes is funky as well.
I'm very happy with CleanROM (except for those dodgy notifications).
How big of a difference in speed and fluidity is there between stock JB and CleanROM 2.3?
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How big of a difference in speed and fluidity is there between stock JB and CleanROM 2.3?
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I do not believe in benchmarking (far too artificial), so I do not have hard numbers for you. On stock JB, I still saw I/O issues, even when transferring relatively small files. I transferred over 6 GB of files yesterday (e-books, specifically, lots of 'em) and it was fast -- the pauses have been reduced to very, very minor instances on CleanROM 2.3.
Fluidity... Very subjective. I was blown away by the smoothness of CleanROM 2.2, and told Scott I did not believe he could further improve on that. He just smiled. He did it again with 2.3 -- he has made some incredible strides. I haven't tried the latest and greatest ASUS stock JB ROM, however -- it might have improved on fluidity significantly. The only way to tell is to test it yourself.
My expectation, based on experience with the stock ROMs: they're built more for reliability than for speed or fluidity (relatively speaking), so I'm not even considering letting CleanROM go.
Hope it helps, even if a tiny bit.
Thanks! Yes it does. I'm picking up the 64gb next week so I guess I can just install the JB stock first before I switch over to CleanROM.
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I can just install the JB stock first before I switch over to CleanROM.
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NO! WRONG WRONG WRONG!
You're not actually wrong at all about the upgrade/rom sequence you should flash but I wanted to make sure I had your attention. I don't know how much you've scoured the forums, but for the love of god use NVFlash before you install any updates, linked here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1901479
This essentially makes a device-specific backup that can be restored no matter what you do to the device software-wise. As the thread points out, it is an absolute failsafe against any and all softbricks.
This process is incompatible with the bootloader packaged with stock JB, so it's essential that you use NVFlash first. You can use the backup you'll create with the new bootloader once you do upgrade, but you won't be able to make one in the first place if you OTA first. If you don't do this before JB and something goes awry with flashing, you're totally out of luck. Especially with the warranty you're giving up.
In summary you'll want to go:
NVFlash -> Stock JB -> CleanRom
Sorry for the drama I neglected to do this before JB, and I'm still kicking myself. I also realize there's a solid chance you know all of this already and are rolling your eyes at the three-post junior member right now. I figure the risk of sounding condescending is worth it if I could save someone else the hassle.
Best of luck!
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Sorry for the drama I neglected to do this before JB, and I'm still kicking myself. I also realize there's a solid chance you know all of this already and are rolling your eyes at the three-post junior member right now. I figure the risk of sounding condescending is worth it if I could save someone else the hassle.
Best of luck!
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No apologies necessary the risk WAS worth it! I had only started scouting the TF700 forum and did not realize I would have ended up screwing myself just like I had with my HOXL. Thanks for the heads up!
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So I finally gathered up the balls to flash my Droid with GummyCharged. It's pretty snappy. I like it except for minor glitches here and there but it was manageable. I searched online for more info about Gummy and I found that support for it has dropped.
My question is which ROM should I move my attention to next? I looked at Tweaked and Infinity, but I couldn't help but notice Deodexed/Eclipse.
It seems there's an equal amount of information on them but I couldn't really find any info about which one has the most support or which one is the obvious forerunner of the three.
So community, what is your opinion? What do you like best and why?
the only few worth ur time is tweaked, eclipse, or infinity. the others r all outdated and no longer updated. or the fp1 debloated but that isnt a custom rom really.
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There isn't really a forerunner. It's more about personal preference. Tweaked is the most customizable. Eclipse has a lot more apps replaced with their AOSP (Google) equivalents. Infinity is still a valid choice as well. I love the Infinity theme, but I personally have always had slowdowns and hotboots on it. It falls somewhere in between Tweaked and Eclipse...a good amount of customization as well as some AOSP app replacements.
I would run either Tweaked or Eclipse. I ran Eclipse from the time it was on version 1.1 up until Tweaked 2.0 came out, then I switched to Tweaked.
Specify!
I think it would be appropriate for me to specify what exactly I'm looking for. Thanks for your response shrike. What I'm looking for is the least buggy, most responsive ROM that offers reasonable battery. Customizable features is nice but that's exactly a must.
So I see the poll is shooting towards Tweaked, so I guess I'll ask, is Tweaked the most appropriate ROM that will fulfill most of what I'm looking for, if not all?
And by AOSP, what do you mean Eclipse has AOSP equivalents? (Ignorant question lol). I read about it but I don't want to interpret what I've read incorrectly.
Thanks again!
Nitro took the AOSP code from Google and compiled some of the apps for our this phone, and replaced a lot of the TouchWiz apps with the AOSP equivalents. If you want something closer to AOSP, then Eclipse is the closest we have (other than jt's unfinished CM9 port), but it is still TouchWiz at it's core.
From a stability standpoint, I've had zero stability problems with both Eclipse and Tweaked. Eclipse is farther from stock when you consider the apps and the look and feel. Tweaked is closer to stock from an app standpoint, but the framework has been more heavily modified to integrate the customizations (TSM Parts primarily).
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I think it would be appropriate for me to specify what exactly I'm looking for. Thanks for your response shrike. What I'm looking for is the least buggy, most responsive ROM that offers reasonable battery. Customizable features is nice but that's exactly a must.
So I see the poll is shooting towards Tweaked, so I guess I'll ask, is Tweaked the most appropriate ROM that will fulfill most of what I'm looking for, if not all?
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Based on what you're looking for, I'd recommend Eclipse. I'm currently using Tweaked because I like the statusbar customization options, but everyday I experience a few freezeups that persist until I get a hotboot or I pull the battery. I've reinstalled several times after going back to stock EP4, and I've gotten the freezeups after each new installation. This has been the case regardless of whether I'm on the stock FP1 kernel or the 0415 pbj kernel. I never had this issue with Eclipse.
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Based on what you're looking for, I'd recommend Eclipse. I'm currently using Tweaked because I like the statusbar customization options, but everyday I experience a few freezeups that persist until I get a hotboot or I pull the battery. I've reinstalled several times after going back to stock EP4, and I've gotten the freezeups after each new installation. This has been the case regardless of whether I'm on the stock FP1 kernel or the 0415 pbj kernel. I never had this issue with Eclipse.
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Sorry to hear the troubles - while the description here is a bit too vague for me to be of much help, would you mind PMing me some specifics? Plus if there is any regularity maybe you could get a logcat?
Son of Cicero said:
Based on what you're looking for, I'd recommend Eclipse. I'm currently using Tweaked because I like the statusbar customization options, but everyday I experience a few freezeups that persist until I get a hotboot or I pull the battery. I've reinstalled several times after going back to stock EP4, and I've gotten the freezeups after each new installation. This has been the case regardless of whether I'm on the stock FP1 kernel or the 0415 pbj kernel. I never had this issue with Eclipse.
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I flashed Eclipse. I'm liking it a lot. So far so good! I had one interesting occurrence though, it prompted for a system update. I clicked on it to update (not expecting it to but just to see what happens) and nothing did happen. I know when I had my LG Revolution with Gingervolt on it, those system updates caused issues with rebooting and turning off. So far I have no issues, but should there be a concern for this? Other than that, I am pleased.
Thanks Nitro! and thanks to the rest of you all for your feedback. My phone is impressing the crowd and has taken a nice warm dump on my friend's iPhone.
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I flashed Eclipse. I'm liking it a lot. So far so good! I had one interesting occurrence though, it prompted for a system update. I clicked on it to update (not expecting it to but just to see what happens) and nothing did happen. I know when I had my LG Revolution with Gingervolt on it, those system updates caused issues with rebooting and turning off. So far I have no issues, but should there be a concern for this? Other than that, I am pleased.
Thanks Nitro! and thanks to the rest of you all for your feedback. My phone is impressing the crowd and has taken a nice warm dump on my friend's iPhone.
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If you keep getting update notifications, you can see this thread:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/21207-stop-ota-notification/
Hello all,
Wondering if you guys can help me decide whether to flash an ICS ROM or not?
I have my Skyrocket tweaked and set up perfectly. It contains...
Version: 2.3.5 (refuse to upgrade to 2.3.6 due to many issues I see some are having)
Kernel: 2.6.35.11+ (excellent "stock-ish" ROM from romracer)
Launcher: Go Launcher EX
Phone is rooted and like to use CWM.
With that said, I'm wondering what is the best option to try? My main concern is obviously performance and battery life. I have spectacular battery life right now and don't want to lose it by flashing an ICS ROM.
Perhaps something that will work with the romracer kernel? For example, something that would still allow me to use CWM and MUST also support boot animations and BLN support. That is a must for me, as I use it to tweak my battery life quite a bit.
Anyways,
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
--mike
No ics for you, then.
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None have fun with gb
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If you decide that you can live without the BLN and overclocking then make a nandroid and give smooth ice a try, skyics is also good I hear.
I've tried smooth ice for like a month almost and it is really stable and the battery was good too.
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If you do not have the heart for glitches, ICS may not serve you well. There is no real benefit that I can see unless you are a hardcore phone tweaker. I am always debating whether to just go back to stock GB myself !!!
BUT if you really have the itch, the safest is mhx's full bloat stock. I used that for a long time, and it is very - relatively- stable.
here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1570498&highlight=full+bloat
My 4 cents....
Close eyes. Now say eni mini miny Moe! Just flash them all. U could use the experience and see everyone's roms instead of asking.... hrllo
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you gotta wait till kernel source is released before you'll have bln and oc but maybe try smooth ice if you want touchwiz but id try cm7 if you haven't or cm9 its all alpha buy lots have used it as a daily driver... I just hate touchwiz
CM9 Skyrocket
Thanks...
Thank you all for the feedback.
This is what I though! lol
I will stick with GB for now. I get amazing battery life, is extremely stable and love all the extra features after tweaking.
Was just curious....
Thanks again,
--mike
Battery Life & Stability
Thanks to the OP for this thread. I'm in a similar boat, but am just looking for the most stable custom ROM with the longest battery life. Coming from rooted Gingerbread, I've setup my ICS exactly the same (debloated and lean), and my time between charges was cut by 1/3 at least.
From my limited research, the CM9 Beta 1 ROM sounds to have excellent battery life and great stability. However, I'm open to suggestions! One question I have though, is I keep hearing folks talk about "nightlies". That that mean it requires nightly updating? Thanks in advance.
I've been using PTSD's AOKP ICS ROM and I love it. I've mixed that with InstigatorX's Kernel and my battery life is amazing. I'm an Android noob, but I'm digging this setup.
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Thanks to the OP for this thread. I'm in a similar boat, but am just looking for the most stable custom ROM with the longest battery life. Coming from rooted Gingerbread, I've setup my ICS exactly the same (debloated and lean), and my time between charges was cut by 1/3 at least.
From my limited research, the CM9 Beta 1 ROM sounds to have excellent battery life and great stability. However, I'm open to suggestions! One question I have though, is I keep hearing folks talk about "nightlies". That that mean it requires nightly updating? Thanks in advance.
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the word nightly means that it's scheduled to auto build a new version with any fixes made during the day... It wont auto update your Rom though you have to manually install it
It is a very easy process though. you download the new nightly and reboot to recovery: wipe system and wipe cache then install, wipe dalvik and fix permissions and reboot if you installed any mods like inverted apps or gps fix or dpi changes they need to also be addresses after the first boot
Because i don't like setting it up all the time i just install the new nightly weekly
CM9 Skyrocket
I actually *just* restored to Gingerbread today, after months of using Cyanogenmod 9's official and nightly releases, as well as the InstigatorX kernels.
My battery life was okay, but for all the extra bells and whistles, they seem to get the basics wrong, unfortunately :/ I still couldn't send texts larger than 160 characters without splitting them up, and they'd always arrive out of order, or not at all. Other apps wouldn't behave properly either, and my mobile network connection seemed to change/drop just from looking at it.
So CM9 looked promising, but still has a ways to go, and it's rated as one of the better ROMs for this phone. I didn't even want to try CM10, because their bug list is still bigger than CM9.
Can I ask where you got your romracer kernel? I'll have to give that a try. Also I'm looking to replace the current radio with something better.
I had to rebuild from scratch because somehow my gingerbread backup was corrupted. I used Bonestocketeer's ROM ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1357274 ) and the only issue I've had with it is I can't change the LTE/HSPA/GSM setting in Mobile Networks to just HSPA/GSM. I was able to with my original ROM, and that seemed to help battery life.
Thanks again for your post!
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At least tell him why. You report hounds are all the same.
To OP, james has reported you because the title and nature of this thread suggests asking which rom is the best, which is prohibited in this forum because "which x is best" threads can usually promote flaming and whatnot. It's like asking who likes the Yankees, and then fans of other teams riot about how their team is the best.
This comes as a surprise as I see you've been a member for a while. Assuming that other forums have similar rules to the SR forum.
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At least tell him why. You report hounds are all the same.
To OP, james has reported you because the title and nature of this thread suggests asking which rom is the best, which is prohibited in this forum because "which x is best" threads can usually promote flaming and whatnot. It's like asking who likes the Yankees, and then fans of other teams riot about how their team is the best.
This comes as a surprise as I see you've been a member for a while. Assuming that other forums have similar rules to the SR forum.
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He's actually doing it to probably get me in trouble bro I doubt he reported it he's trying to make a point and failing he's done this in half the recent threads here
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pookieguy said:
With that said, I'm wondering what is the best option to try? My main concern is obviously performance and battery life. I have spectacular battery life right now and don't want to lose it by flashing an ICS ROM.
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My recommendation would be NexusMod, then. It features the proprietary performance tweaks available in the TouchWiz ROMs, so it's faster than Cyanogenmod, but it has a lot of theming that makes it look and feel closer to AOSP. There are still some ugly elements of TouchWiz that exist, but it's a big improvement over a lot of the other TouchWiz-based ROMs.
For sure, CM9 has more features and tweaking options, and a more consistent AOSP look to it, but it's slower than NexusMod and still has some very minor bugs. It does, perhaps, offer you a few more options in how to save battery, though.
I have to say, though ICS is a massive improvement over GB and we have stable, mature ICS ROMs available. I would strongly advise upgrading, but if you're concerned about bugs, stick with a light TW-based rom like NexusMod.
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He's actually doing it to probably get me in trouble bro I doubt he reported it he's trying to make a point and failing he's done this in half the recent threads here
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Yeah I see he did the same in a post about a Motorola screen. As much as I don't like your attitude I will admit you report where it's appropriate
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First off Questions belongs in Q&A. Second no one can really say use "x". Search, read and try. Locked
This is something that has always been bugging me,
Why do people install all these custom non-stock based roms like CM or Baked Black Beans or Paranoidandroid ?
I do understand the reason to install something like CleanROM that is stock-based, just to improve tablet's performance. But why a non-stock based rom ?
If I open up CM thread, I see that there is a lot of stuff that doesn't properly work in that ROM. What is the advantage of having it then ?
It's just a personal preference for some (I prefer stock-based myself). There are a lot more configuration options in the CM10-based ROM's (but at the some time, you lose other options that are available in stock).
Like I said, it's just something that some users prefer. It's good to have options!
In my opinion, the Transformer series of devices are just better off with stock since they have so many Transformer-specific functions. But, with a "normal" tablet, CM10 is actually a very good option...
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Non stock based ROMs can have a newer android version, more options, more features, higher customability, etc.
And having a 'completely different' ROM can give the feeling of owning a new phone which is nice too.
not uncommon to have a smaller footprint, which gives more memory. Sometimes there stuff only available on AOSP that isn't compatible with stock; usually it's a kernel issue.
Personally, I prefer CM over stock. Right now, since it's still early and some items I want are not working, I can wait. There's nothing must have on CM for me right now. Personally, I would love to have something like Boot Manager so I can have multiple ROMs.
Well there isn't that much that is missing in CM10 compared to stock as ASUS made a great decision in keeping the stock ROM as close to AOSP as they could to allow for faster updates. ASOP tend to get updates faster and performance usually is increased compared to stock. Clean ROM is faster right now but it is likely only a matter of time for CM to catch up and surpass it. I'm also waiting for it to become a little more stable before I switch. If you get bored one day, check out out for yourself to see if you like it or not.
Like @jtrosky said, it really comes down to personal preference. I prefer the AOSP roms because I think they perform better for what I use my TF700 for, but that is my opinion and a lot of people would disagree. You do have to remember when you read people complaining in the CM10 thread about things not working that it is very much a work in progress for this device.
I agree that unlocked stock and stock-based roms benchmark better than AOSP roms, but I really think ASUS has built their rom so it performs well in these types of tests (lets face it, all serious reviews of any device contain benchmark data). I think some would agree that real world testing shows that stock (even CleanROM) is more laggy than ASOP roms though. Again, this is my personal opinion and my experience of this device.
If you start a thread like this you are going to get a load of conflicting views. The only way to find out which is best is to do a bit of your own testing and see what works best for you. Happy flashing
Thanks for replies guys.
Although im still not convinced
Cleanrom + data2sd + OC kernel makes this tablet fly and the stock rom (on which cleanrom is based) guarantees that all the tablet's features workfine.
To be honest i dont see a reason for a non-stock bsed rom.
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jodvova said:
Thanks for replies guys.
Although im still not convinced
Cleanrom + data2sd + OC kernel makes this tablet fly and the stock rom (on which cleanrom is based) guarantees that all the tablet's features workfine.
To be honest i dont see a reason for a non-stock bsed rom.
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Can you watch your movies or play games on fullscreen (i mean real fullscreen with no status bar) with stock rom? I guess not.
Can use themes on stock rom? I guess not
I could go on and on about this but like others said it's just a matter of taste and if you don't see a point to use custom roms just stick with the stock.
jodvova said:
Thanks for replies guys.
Although im still not convinced
Cleanrom + data2sd + OC kernel makes this tablet fly and the stock rom (on which cleanrom is based) guarantees that all the tablet's features workfine.
To be honest i dont see a reason for a non-stock bsed rom.
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It's the difference between driving a stock car, or adding rims, tricking out the stereo, and tinting the windows - it's not for everyone, but some can't live any other way...
I was surprised and sad to find that Scott (scrosler) has moved on to a new device (Nexus7, SGS Note2...) and left us with a great ROM (CleanROM v2.4) but with no clear path to the future. I have used Baked Black Bean and Hiemanshu's various offerings and there is lots of potential there, especially with Clemsyn's CM kernels.
What do you say...are you leaning toward CM or AOSP (4.2???) or are you hoping for someone to take over CleanROM and continue with a tweaked stock experience?
I do know that I'm going to focus my donations on Clemsyn to try to get him a TF700 so he can continue to work his kernel magic!
Update: Since this was posted, some great devs stepped up and took over the CleanROM legacy.
Thanks for the great dicussion, guys! :victory:
Honestly, I have no idea yet. I see no reason to flash anything else anytime soon. I'm still very happy with CleanROM (still using 2.3, haven't gotten around to 2.4 yet). I've got my eyes on Paranoid, LiquidSmooth and CM10 though, and will be following the developmentˆˆ
Heck I was fine with 2.3...
Then 2.4 appeared so I'm pretty sure things will be good for a long while.
I'm confident there will be more excellent development coming.
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I see no reason to flash anything else anytime soon.
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Thats OK said:
I'm pretty sure things will be good for a long while.
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Asus has released six firmware updates in seven months, so while we're fine now, soon enough we'll need somebody to at least rebase CR 2.4 on new firmware every time there's an update.
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Asus has released six firmware updates in seven months, so while we're fine now, soon enough we'll need somebody to at least rebase CR 2.4 on new firmware every time there's an update.
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...or we use the other great ROMs for our Infinity
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...or we use the other great ROMs for our Infinity
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Which is? Wasn't aware of another stock based ROM. CM10 is great, but I would prefer to have at least one up to date stock based ROM available as an option.
I just caved and unlocked and flashed CleanROM, only to learn the developer left!
Well, it is a much better stock experience, so I should be good for a while, and will follow the development of others ROMs I guess.
Vo01985 said:
I just caved and unlocked and flashed CleanROM, only to learn the developer left!
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Oh man...I was about to unlock and flash CleanROM last night. Am very, very happy that I didn't now.
Why? CleanROM 2.3 (can't speak for 2.4 since I haven't flashed it yet) is still an absolutely fantastic ROM - that doesn't change just because the developer has moved on to a different device. Granted, there may be no more updates Scott, but I'm still hopefull somebody takes over development. If not, I'll have to keep an eye out for other ROMs.
And if you were "about to" unlock, it's gonna happen sooner or later
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Why? CleanROM 2.3 (can't speak for 2.4 since I haven't flashed it yet) is still an absolutely fantastic ROM - that doesn't change just because the developer has moved on to a different device. Granted, there may be no more updates Scott, but I'm still hopefull somebody takes over development. If not, I'll have to keep an eye out for other ROMs.
And if you were "about to" unlock, it's gonna happen sooner or later
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I wouldn't hesitate to flash CleanROM 2.4, I've been running it for a couple of days and all I can say is WOW, V2.3 was brilliant... V2.4 is ( in my opinion ) a noticeable upgrade and is better again!
Cheers
Glad that I haven't unlocked mine yet. It's true that there should be at least 1 stock based ROM available. I indeed enjoy some of the stock ROM features. I am not moving to CM or AOSP ROM unless they provide a newer Android update than stock.
I've been very happy with clean rom 2.4. I've been running paranoid android on my n7 and it is a super rom. A step up from stock so that is where I will be going next.
i am not a dev...
But i figured i would try to mess around a little
I tried png optimizing cleanrom 2.4 and installing/running v6 supercharger script along with some extra buildprop tweaks
which i found in a tf300t stock based rom...
The device feels a little faster in my opinion and apps launch a little faster(might just be my brain playing games)
i was wondering if someone with the right knowledge would mind to try and png optimize and incorporate v6 supercharger into this rom?
and see if there is any gains?
as i do not know how this would be done as i am a newb
btw these are the build prop lines i added:
dalvik.vm.execution-mode=int:jit
persist.sys.NV_FPSLIMIT = 120
debug.performance.tuning=1
persist.sys.composition.type=gpu
ro.media.enc.jpeg.quality=100
com.qc.hardware=true
ro.debuggable=1
dalvik.vm.verify-bytecode = false
ro.media.dec.jpeg.memcap=80000000
ro.media.enc.hprof.vid.bps=8000000
papand7 said:
i am not a dev...
But i figured i would try to mess around a little
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I think Scott (and many other devs) started the same as you.
papand7 said:
I tried png optimizing cleanrom 2.4 and installing/running v6 supercharger script along with some extra buildprop tweaks
which i found in a tf300t stock based rom...
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What do you mean with "png optimizing"? PNG is a graphics format, what's the relation to the Android OS?
papand7 said:
The device feels a little faster in my opinion and apps launch a little faster(might just be my brain playing games)
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Many of the "optimizations", even some of those in CleanROM, are pure psychology, or the speed increase is real, but only due to rebooting or cleaning data.
papand7 said:
dalvik.vm.execution-mode=int:jit
persist.sys.NV_FPSLIMIT = 120
debug.performance.tuning=1
persist.sys.composition.type=gpu
ro.media.enc.jpeg.quality=100
com.qc.hardware=true
ro.debuggable=1
dalvik.vm.verify-bytecode = false
ro.media.dec.jpeg.memcap=80000000
ro.media.enc.hprof.vid.bps=8000000
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Now for each of these, find out what they are, and if your setting has any effect at all.
PNG optimize is a way to make all of the apps in the System/apps folder smaller leaving a smaller memory footprint when the device is running,
at least thats what i understand.
well the tweaks i did might just be psychologic but i guess i will never know for sure untill others try it..
i have no clue about all of those build.prop edits and as i said i am not a dev i am just playing around learning a little
But i will try to find out what they are supposed to do
well if scott is picking this one up then that would be awesome!
my device has alot of screen popping aka screen is loose some places...
Have anyone gotten asus to fix issues like this on an unlocked device for free?
papand7 said:
PNG optimize is a way to make all of the apps in the System/apps folder smaller leaving a smaller memory footprint when the device is running,
at least thats what i understand.
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What does it do? Remove PNGs for unused resolutions? Compress them better?
papand7 said:
i have no clue about all of those build.prop edits and as i said i am not a dev i am just playing around learning a little
But i will try to find out what they are supposed to do
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You don't need to be a dev to operate a search engine. It just helps to understand the descriptions that you will find. But for example, if you find that the default value of some property is the same you are trying to set, you will have gained knowledge even without understanding what exactly the property does.
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But for example, if you find that the default value of some property is the same you are trying to set, you will have gained knowledge even without understanding what exactly the property does.
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And as long as the nose doesn't light up you'll be fine...
CleanROM 2.4 is good to go, and will be for the life of the device. OCD Flashing Disorder is just that, and nothing more. I admit I too suffered from it with my SGS2, but I've come to realize that devicest do not need to run the very latest to just be great in themselves. I'm happy with the TF700 as it is now, and since all the other ROMs fail to properly support the dock, I will not be changing -- at least until the touchpad can be turned off, and the WiFi/Bluetooth/brightness toggles work properly. Those are my minimal criteria.
I'll be sticking to CleanRom2.4 myself for a long while (on 300t). And I completely agree with Marty, there's really no reason to be constantly updating the ROM to the next android version. I haven't updated my SII Rom in months and I have absolutely no issues with it. (The developer also ceased making updates for the SII rom)
Yeah I'm on CleanROM 2.4 and it's very good. It's still a stock experience yet it is much, much faster. I don't have OCD flashing syndrome (probably cause I suck at backupping and restoring). But I should use this ROM for quite a while.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T
My wife's JB stock Asus TF700 is being annoying. It's laggy, audio recording hiccups and stutters and lags, and in general my Nexus 7 makes it look really bad (and it's not like she's installed a bunch of junk on it, and these problems persist after reboots/cache wipes).
I don't mind at all unlocking it and doing things like custom kernels, kernel tweaks etc. But I have a few reservations....one of the biggest is the dock with non-ASUS ROMs. I want to make sure that full dock functionality is there. That means the trackpad works, the keyboard works, the SD card slot in the keyboard works, etc. Is there any reason to be concerned about this with custom TF700 ROMs? I don't really see their descriptions addressing this.
The other question is, how likely is it I'll see the improvements I want just by putting in a custom kernel, maybe running an app like Seeder, and/or FSTrim to combat lagginess, and just otherwise leave the stock ASUS Jelly Bean on it, albeit rooted.
Hope this question hasn't been asked and answered before. I *did* search.
Randy
I run CROMI 3.2.1 on my TF700 & have no problems with my keyboard dock. keys all work, as does the SDcard.
This ROM is built off of Asus's Rom, just improved upon.
I've noticed a huge difference in my tablet since switching to CROMI over the stock ROM.
Not sure about just putting in a new kernel though.
Someone else might be able to answer that better.
I'm running CROMI 3.2 + ubuntu on dualboot (rabits) and even with the custom kernel, everything related to the dock works on the android side (the SD reader on the dock is a little problematic while running linux but that is kind of to be expected with an alpha build)
I would go with the newest CleanRom Inheritance (CROMI) and run one of clemsyn's kernels with it.
Stupid fast (compared to stock at least)
I'm also running with fsync disabled, and the performance difference is definitely noticeable.
Also running CROMI 3.2.1, everything works as with the stock ROM, just much, much better!
On stock I was ok with this tablet, got it for the flexibility and keyboard and put up with the lagginess.
Now I absolutely love it! So much fun!
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk HD
If you're really worried about dock support, go the CROMI route -- I'm another proponent and use it myself. It is INSANE how much difference it makes. The lay-out and general user experience is the same, so the transition is... hell, it's not even small or negligible, it's just absent.
Do yourself and your wife a favor and flash CROMI. I warn you, however: once done, there's no way you're going back to stock, and even the other ROMs probably lose to CROMI (by maybe a small margin, I haven't tested lately sicne I'm really happy with the performance as is).
Sweet!! Thanks, guys! I'll give it a go. Looks like others are saying the ASUS unlocker will work on the JB stock ROM so, presumably I no longer have to worry about going through the 'downgrade' to ICS first...
Recommendations on the recovery? CWM? TWRP?
Thanks,
Randy
PS You may have gathered this, but I've been doing this with phones & tablets for a long time with Android, so I'm not 'new' to it, I just didn't know how to deal with the wildcard of the dock thrown in the mix.
rmagruder said:
Sweet!! Thanks, guys! I'll give it a go. Looks like others are saying the ASUS unlocker will work on the JB stock ROM so, presumably I no longer have to worry about going through the 'downgrade' to ICS first...
Recommendations on the recovery? CWM? TWRP?
Thanks,
Randy
PS You may have gathered this, but I've been doing this with phones & tablets for a long time with Android, so I'm not 'new' to it, I just didn't know how to deal with the wildcard of the dock thrown in the mix.
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TWRP, no doubt, but not the latest version, stay with TWRP version 2.3.1.0 (first choice) or 2.3.3.0(second choice).
buhohitr said:
TWRP, no doubt, but not the latest version, stay with TWRP version 2.3.1.0 (first choice) or 2.3.3.0(second choice).
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Hehehe, here's where opinions start differing. I'm a CWM guy, but probably due to having learned where everything is. I believe the current versions of TWRP are really good, and since they're friendlier to learn (and operate, I guess) there's no shame in using TWRP, and whichever one you happen to choose doesn't really matter since they perform the most important tasks equally well.
One real advantage of TWRP is being able to use GooManager to update it on the device itself. As I think of it now, now I've had to tape the tablet inside the dock, I'm probably going to have to go the TWRP route myself soon... (I don't know if I can fastboot through the dock. Ugh)
Still, I vote CWM.
Don't forget to get your nvflash backup setup first...
rmagruder said:
JB stock
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DocCox said:
Don't forget to get your nvflash backup setup first...
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Too late.
buhohitr said:
TWRP, no doubt, but not the latest version, stay with TWRP version 2.3.1.0 (first choice) or 2.3.3.0(second choice).
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Last couple of versions of TWRP feel a bit like betas to me. It offers a brilliant interface but it's a bit disconcerting that it can freeze anywhere in the flash process. I've switched to CWM and whilst it is incredibly slow in comparison to TWRP it is at least stable.