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[Q] Ice Cream Sandwich on Xoom - is it much better than honeycomb?

Hi all
I've picked up a Xoom in the UK. I quite like the tablet but it has a few niggling issues. I'd like to know if these are fixed in ICS (I do not want to unlock the bootloader etc. to update in case I wish to return it). Is rooting and unlocking the bootloader reversible?
I've read ICS is notably faster and avoids the "keyboard lag" particularly evident on XDA, but would appreciate some comments on the following:
Screen Brightness: Auto sucks, it's always too low. Is this improved in ICS?
Browser: The browser doesn't fully load a page. Only the first portion is rendered, scrolling down the page means the next part is rendered. Scroll back up and the earlier part you've already seen is NOT in memory and is re-rendered. Most annoying!
Any comments appreciated.

ICS is most definitely an improvement over stock,in terms of speed and stability. Quite amazing, given that the ICS builds we have now are alpha engineering builds.
To your specific questions,I never really had a problem with autobrightness or with browser rendering... but I've been off stock so long I just may not remember the browser issues. I also converted pretty early on to Dolphin HD browser due to a few stock browser quirks, and am now playing with Boat Browser, which seems a bit lighter than Dolphin and which I like a lot so far.
At any rate, I'd suggest you read through the ICS thread of your choice thoroughly and if you like what you see, give it a try... you can always go back to stock and relock if you decide Xoom is not for you... but I can tell you it is a whole new,and much improved, device on ICS. I'm running Team EOS's version for 4g.
If you decide to giving it a try, the Universal Root thread is a must read.

Unlocking the boot loader and rooting the XOOM on 3.2 Honeycomb is absolutely reversible, I have done it myself several times with no problems
I followed this YouTube tutorial for both
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7Dw1PNnmHE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSH14xI5c8s&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Good luck, since it is reversible there is not much risk involved in rooting and unlocking your bootloader and Motorola website provides the stock system images to return your device to stock and re-lock your boot loader in just a few simple commands.....I suggest reading up allot before attempting, there are some great tutorials to familiarize yourself with ADB and the commands and such.
I rooted back on 3.2 and flashed the Team EOS ICS build and I have to say it runs amazing and I have not regretted it for a second.
Sent from my Xoom using xda premium

Thanks guys - much appreciated.
I'm interested in the Team EOS build - I'll have a good read up! I'm not alien to the root and unlock process though - looks similar to my Sensation.
Cheers!
James

Stock HC is a disappointment, EOS is in a word awesome. I use the wingray variation and overclock stable at 1.6 Ghz. I ditched stock over 6 months ago and never looked back. The same folks that bring EOS ICS brought us Tiamat HC which is what I started on after unlocking. Motorola should outsource to these guys.

Can't agree more. Stock 3.2 sucked. Slow UI, default launcher was clunky - it made the Xoom a disappointment.
ICS EOS Wingray (wi-fi), is awesome. Even the nightly builds are usually stable . Sometimes not but most of the time yes. I'm running nightly 54 and rock solid. The only bugs I've encountered are: 1) camera flash over exposes picture, 2) wi-fi off when sleep does not work.
Battery life is good as long as its not over-clocked. Over-clocked, expect it to eat the battery quicker and for most things you do - OC is not needed.
Try it out.

yes yes oh god yes.

I've just moved up to the stock rooted ICS from Tiamat HC and whilst the visuals are fairly similar, it's definitely smooooooother Well worth the move. I've also never found overclocking to be a necessity on the Xoom.

Which ROM to apply

Hello everyone,
First let me say that I am a noob at this so please be patient with my inquiry. I have applied custom rom on a Coby Kryos 7042, but those are for my kids... And I'm not overly impressed with what that got me, but like I said, those tabs are for my kids.
The purpose of this topic is find out what ROM I should flash to my stock TF300t.
There are numerous ROMs on this board and I cant determine which one to apply.
I'm not a serious gamer, so selecting a ROM because it makes games run faster/smoother is of no use for me.
This is what I would like to see from a custom rom...
Make my overall experience better with the TF300t. I'm not complaining about the TF300t, so far I love it. Can it be better? Probably.
Can a custom ROM make the transistions from page/screen to page/screen faster? If so, which ROM?
Can a custom ROM increase my WIFI range of the TF300, if the TF300 wifi range is not fully utilized? I hope that made sense.
Which ROM on this board is close to error/bug free?
If I apply a custom ROM will I be able to use JB when ASUS releases it?
I'm not asking who is the 'best' at creating a custom ROM, for that is subjective. I just want some help picking out a good one for me.
I've already rooted my 300 and I've downloaded the unlock boot tool from ASUS, but I havent unlocked the tab yet.
TIA,
B

bflatmajor said:
Hello everyone,
First let me say that I am a noob at this so please be patient with my inquiry. I have applied custom rom on a Coby Kryos 7042, but those are for my kids... And I'm not overly impressed with what that got me, but like I said, those tabs are for my kids.
The purpose of this topic is find out what ROM I should flash to my stock TF300t.
There are numerous ROMs on this board and I cant determine which one to apply.
I'm not a serious gamer, so selecting a ROM because it makes games run faster/smoother is of no use for me.
This is what I would like to see from a custom rom...
Make my overall experience better with the TF300t. I'm not complaining about the TF300t, so far I love it. Can it be better? Probably.
Can a custom ROM make the transistions from page/screen to page/screen faster? If so, which ROM?
Can a custom ROM increase my WIFI range of the TF300, if the TF300 wifi range is not fully utilized? I hope that made sense.
Which ROM on this board is close to error/bug free?
If I apply a custom ROM will I be able to use JB when ASUS releases it?
I'm not asking who is the 'best' at creating a custom ROM, for that is subjective. I just want some help picking out a good one for me.
I've already rooted my 300 and I've downloaded the unlock boot tool from ASUS, but I havent unlocked the tab yet.
TIA,
B
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Dont unlock it
You can get JB officially within a month... Would be semi pointless to put a custom rom on so close to Jelly Bean being released for the TF300T

If you've only just bought the tab, I would recommend not unlocking it yet - make sure there are no defects before you unlock as this will void your warranty. Once you're happy with it, go for it

I plan to wait for the official release of Jelly Bean before I unlock. If I dont like the offcial release I will unlock and try a custom ROM.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF300T using xda premium

ncguy68 said:
I plan to wait for the official release of Jelly Bean before I unlock. If I dont like the offcial release I will unlock and try a custom ROM.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF300T using xda premium
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doing the same :laugh:

Like some of the other posters I would not unlock so soon especially if you are satisfied with the performance. I waited until after my 30 period return window before I unlocked. However, I can only speak for one from since it is the only from that I have tried on this device. Seanz hydro ponic rom is fantastic and I am completely satisfied with it. I have run cm9 and aokp on other devices and if you like customization these are pretty good.

toxicdust said:
Dont unlock it
You can get JB officially within a month... Would be semi pointless to put a custom rom on so close to Jelly Bean being released for the TF300T
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Link?

bflatmajor said:
Hello everyone,
First let me say that I am a noob at this so please be patient with my inquiry. I have applied custom rom on a Coby Kryos 7042, but those are for my kids... And I'm not overly impressed with what that got me, but like I said, those tabs are for my kids.
The purpose of this topic is find out what ROM I should flash to my stock TF300t.
There are numerous ROMs on this board and I cant determine which one to apply.
I'm not a serious gamer, so selecting a ROM because it makes games run faster/smoother is of no use for me.
This is what I would like to see from a custom rom...
Make my overall experience better with the TF300t. I'm not complaining about the TF300t, so far I love it. Can it be better? Probably.
Can a custom ROM make the transistions from page/screen to page/screen faster? If so, which ROM?
Can a custom ROM increase my WIFI range of the TF300, if the TF300 wifi range is not fully utilized? I hope that made sense.
Which ROM on this board is close to error/bug free?
If I apply a custom ROM will I be able to use JB when ASUS releases it?
I'm not asking who is the 'best' at creating a custom ROM, for that is subjective. I just want some help picking out a good one for me.
I've already rooted my 300 and I've downloaded the unlock boot tool from ASUS, but I havent unlocked the tab yet.
TIA,
B
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since no one actually answered your questions....here we go.
make the experience better? usually custom ROMs get rid of all the bloat and un-necessary stuff inside the OS. this usually speeds it up a bit...it may be noticable it may not. they also usually throw in some tweaks and customization. i am going to take AOKP for instance....since i am very familiar with that.
it allows for overclocking and undervolting, custom toggles in the notification area, custom shortcuts from the lock screen, adding buttons to the bottom navigation bar and changing their colors and icons and the later ones have a theme engine built in so changing the entire look of the tab is as easy as downloading an app and hitting a button.
make the home screen transitions faster.....usually custom ROMs ditch the stock launcher in favor of a custom one (nova, apex, or trebuchet) all of these have a setting in which you can tweak the transition speed as well as pretty much anything else you want to change. nova launcher and apex launcher (my personal fav) are downloadable and install-able from the play store.
increase wifi range? this one i am not sure of...i haven't really looked into it since i am pretty happy with my range, but i would guess that they don't increase wifi range.
bug free? anything based off stock will be good...however, these are custom ROMs with not much testing...there will be bugs...some you my notice, others you may not....its just the name of the game. i usually dont notice any myself until others point them out. it still doesn't bother me...AOKPs customizations and tweaks outweigh the small bugs here an there....IMO.
use official JB OTA...yes i believe you can download and flash an official OTA that you can get from asus' site...someone correct me if i am wrong.
so there you go. you can make your decision from that...but like others have said, it may be a good idea to hold off unlocking for a bit. if you absolutely cannot live without some of the customizations of say...AOKP, go ahead and flash away....but if slapping on a custom launcher and speeding up that screen transition is enough, just do that and hold off until official JB is pushed to us....that is my plan....at least for the time being (CM10 is making it hard to pass up though )

For the sake of answering the question I will go against previous posts and suggest that you unlock and flash a rom. Make a backup of your stock rom before flashing and then you can always revert back and manually update to JB when it arrives...or wait a few days after it's released for a JB based rom. Until that time I suggest flashing Asus-Hydro. It has all the stock features, is bug free as far as I can tell, and adds noticeable speed to the tf300. Not sure if it improves wifi distance, but it definitely speeds up homescreen transitions and greatly improves browser performance.
Make backups, follow instructions, and enjoy.

10010110 said:
Link?
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If you took the time to read any of the other threads relating to JB you would have maybe come across a section on XDA that referred to "Tablets that will get JB 4.1"
In that thread there was a link that pointed to a reliable tech review site that got a official answer from Asus stating "Asus has build a reputation of being 1st and we don't want to disappoint our users"
That being said JB 4.1 is officially launched mid-July that is currently ... wow ... Now!
Asus will be quick on the official release to update their Tablets as they clearly stated by "We have a Reputation of being 1st"
So there is nothing officially stated if that's what you were looking for but within a month is my best estimate taking into consideration their track record for updates.

Why do people install CM or other non-stock based ROMs

This is something that has always been bugging me,
Why do people install all these custom non-stock based roms like CM or Baked Black Beans or Paranoidandroid ?
I do understand the reason to install something like CleanROM that is stock-based, just to improve tablet's performance. But why a non-stock based rom ?
If I open up CM thread, I see that there is a lot of stuff that doesn't properly work in that ROM. What is the advantage of having it then ?

It's just a personal preference for some (I prefer stock-based myself). There are a lot more configuration options in the CM10-based ROM's (but at the some time, you lose other options that are available in stock).
Like I said, it's just something that some users prefer. It's good to have options!
In my opinion, the Transformer series of devices are just better off with stock since they have so many Transformer-specific functions. But, with a "normal" tablet, CM10 is actually a very good option...
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk 2

Non stock based ROMs can have a newer android version, more options, more features, higher customability, etc.
And having a 'completely different' ROM can give the feeling of owning a new phone which is nice too.

not uncommon to have a smaller footprint, which gives more memory. Sometimes there stuff only available on AOSP that isn't compatible with stock; usually it's a kernel issue.
Personally, I prefer CM over stock. Right now, since it's still early and some items I want are not working, I can wait. There's nothing must have on CM for me right now. Personally, I would love to have something like Boot Manager so I can have multiple ROMs.

Well there isn't that much that is missing in CM10 compared to stock as ASUS made a great decision in keeping the stock ROM as close to AOSP as they could to allow for faster updates. ASOP tend to get updates faster and performance usually is increased compared to stock. Clean ROM is faster right now but it is likely only a matter of time for CM to catch up and surpass it. I'm also waiting for it to become a little more stable before I switch. If you get bored one day, check out out for yourself to see if you like it or not.

Like @jtrosky said, it really comes down to personal preference. I prefer the AOSP roms because I think they perform better for what I use my TF700 for, but that is my opinion and a lot of people would disagree. You do have to remember when you read people complaining in the CM10 thread about things not working that it is very much a work in progress for this device.
I agree that unlocked stock and stock-based roms benchmark better than AOSP roms, but I really think ASUS has built their rom so it performs well in these types of tests (lets face it, all serious reviews of any device contain benchmark data). I think some would agree that real world testing shows that stock (even CleanROM) is more laggy than ASOP roms though. Again, this is my personal opinion and my experience of this device.
If you start a thread like this you are going to get a load of conflicting views. The only way to find out which is best is to do a bit of your own testing and see what works best for you. Happy flashing

Thanks for replies guys.
Although im still not convinced
Cleanrom + data2sd + OC kernel makes this tablet fly and the stock rom (on which cleanrom is based) guarantees that all the tablet's features workfine.
To be honest i dont see a reason for a non-stock bsed rom.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using xda app-developers app

jodvova said:
Thanks for replies guys.
Although im still not convinced
Cleanrom + data2sd + OC kernel makes this tablet fly and the stock rom (on which cleanrom is based) guarantees that all the tablet's features workfine.
To be honest i dont see a reason for a non-stock bsed rom.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using xda app-developers app
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Can you watch your movies or play games on fullscreen (i mean real fullscreen with no status bar) with stock rom? I guess not.
Can use themes on stock rom? I guess not
I could go on and on about this but like others said it's just a matter of taste and if you don't see a point to use custom roms just stick with the stock.

jodvova said:
Thanks for replies guys.
Although im still not convinced
Cleanrom + data2sd + OC kernel makes this tablet fly and the stock rom (on which cleanrom is based) guarantees that all the tablet's features workfine.
To be honest i dont see a reason for a non-stock bsed rom.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using xda app-developers app
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It's the difference between driving a stock car, or adding rims, tricking out the stereo, and tinting the windows - it's not for everyone, but some can't live any other way...

[Q] CyanogenMod 10 Stable v.s. Asus 4.1

Hi,
My Infinity is unlocked and rooted and I noticed that CyanogenMod 10 is now stable for Infinity. I Still have the JB version Asus distributed OTA and no customisations. My question is
- How do they actually compare?
- When I look in Google, I still find articles where things on the Asus Infinity do not work, (brightness, camera etc) are they fixed?
- If I install CM10, do I still need to install all Google Apps?
- In general, what makes CyanogenMod 10 much better then the standard JB edition?
Thanks for answering these N00b questions
Cheers

RolandV said:
Hi,
My Infinity is unlocked and rooted and I noticed that CyanogenMod 10 is now stable for Infinity. I Still have the JB version Asus distributed OTA and no customisations. My question is
- How do they actually compare?
- When I look in Google, I still find articles where things on the Asus Infinity do not work, (brightness, camera etc) are they fixed?
- If I install CM10, do I still need to install all Google Apps?
- In general, what makes CyanogenMod 10 much better then the standard JB edition?
Thanks for answering these N00b questions
Cheers
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My $.05 is this:
1. When compared side by side, it really is a preference matter. Cyanogenmod rom's have always been about clean, slick and smooth while being as stripped possible.
2. Haven't seen anything about this, but CM's tend to have more issues than with other roms due to the level of customization they run.
3. To my knowledge, you need to download the current gapps.zip and flash in recovery. I was a fan of the inverted version
4. Refer back to #1. I have used both extensively on phones and my tablets and honestly, sometimes I am in the mood for running super lean and stripped down just because it is smoother and faster. However, it comes at a price of having glitches. On the other hand, I get in the mood for a "stock" experience because the experience is different and EVERYTHING works the way it is supposed to; no stupid workarounds.
Again, my $.05. Take it for what it's worth; I figured I'd give you a jump start on this thread since nobody else had replied :good:

You can find a lists of what's working and what's not working for CM10 in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957660
Currently, I will stay with ASUS 4.1 because it's official and every works. I am satisfied with the speed so far. No reason to flash other ROM. I will only go for CM unless CM provides newer Android version and ASUS already stops supporting our unit.

RolandV said:
Hi,
My Infinity is unlocked and rooted and I noticed that CyanogenMod 10 is now stable for Infinity. I Still have the JB version Asus distributed OTA and no customisations. My question is
- How do they actually compare?
- When I look in Google, I still find articles where things on the Asus Infinity do not work, (brightness, camera etc) are they fixed?
- If I install CM10, do I still need to install all Google Apps?
- In general, what makes CyanogenMod 10 much better then the standard JB edition?
Thanks for answering these N00b questions
Cheers
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pogibry said:
My $.05 is this:
1. When compared side by side, it really is a preference matter. Cyanogenmod rom's have always been about clean, slick and smooth while being as stripped possible.
2. Haven't seen anything about this, but CM's tend to have more issues than with other roms due to the level of customization they run.
3. To my knowledge, you need to download the current gapps.zip and flash in recovery. I was a fan of the inverted version
4. Refer back to #1. I have used both extensively on phones and my tablets and honestly, sometimes I am in the mood for running super lean and stripped down just because it is smoother and faster. However, it comes at a price of having glitches. On the other hand, I get in the mood for a "stock" experience because the experience is different and EVERYTHING works the way it is supposed to; no stupid workarounds.
Again, my $.05. Take it for what it's worth; I figured I'd give you a jump start on this thread since nobody else had replied :good:
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This type of question gets asked quite frequently. As far as I am concerned the only answer is flash it yourself and see what works best for you. It takes 15 min to make a nandroid, wipe and flash. The process is completely safe if you follow all of the instructions to the letter, make sure that all of you md5 checksums are correct etc.
I don't say this be be rude but I say it because I disagree with @pogibry. I think CM10 and other AOSP roms are far more stable that the stock rom and it doesn't have the sluggishness for the applications that I use on a regular basis. But this is my personal opinion, and the points pogibry makes are equally as valid. The only way you can decide what works best for you is to try it yourself!

Best ROM for TF700?

I'm getting my tablet Monday and I really don't want to have to flash different roms just to find one that works best.
I prefer Cyanogen stuff, I'm running the nightlies on my Razr Maxx HD, and would like to continue using it on a tablet. HOWEVER, it seems that Cromi has a more developed ROM. Am I wrong? What do you guys think is the best rom and why?

yugendreams said:
I'm getting my tablet Monday and I really don't want to have to flash different roms just to find one that works best.
I prefer Cyanogen stuff, I'm running the nightlies on my Razr Maxx HD, and would like to continue using it on a tablet. HOWEVER, it seems that Cromi has a more developed ROM. Am I wrong? What do you guys think is the best rom and why?
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CROMi-X obviously
Try a few out though - see what you think.

yugendreams said:
I'm getting my tablet Monday and I really don't want to have to flash different roms just to find one that works best.
I prefer Cyanogen stuff, I'm running the nightlies on my Razr Maxx HD, and would like to continue using it on a tablet. HOWEVER, it seems that Cromi has a more developed ROM. Am I wrong? What do you guys think is the best rom and why?
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Wait a few weeks and you may not have to decide! sbdags and _that are continuing to work on ROM2SD for CROMi-X! Run his rom on internal and another rom on your microSD. Already works for CROMi-X, miniCROMi-X, but CM is coming - I can feel it

Linux is where the real funs at

JoinTheRealms said:
Linux is where the real funs at
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If only I had the time to study.....:crying:

yugendreams said:
I'm getting my tablet Monday and I really don't want to have to flash different roms just to find one that works best.
I prefer Cyanogen stuff, I'm running the nightlies on my Razr Maxx HD, and would like to continue using it on a tablet. HOWEVER, it seems that Cromi has a more developed ROM. Am I wrong? What do you guys think is the best rom and why?
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Cromi-x is highly recommended, but on my tablet it did run well at all. I would recommend going with cyan based rom, I run cyan on all my other android devices and i could not get used to the Asus based roms at all.
Currently running CMB even without data2sd like cromi-x had it way smoother and hasn't crashed yet. Plus has all the cyan features i know and love...
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk 4

sjgieson said:
Cromi-x is highly recommended, but on my tablet it did run well at all. I would recommend going with cyan based rom, I run cyan on all my other android devices and i could not get used to the Asus based roms at all.
Currently running CMB even without data2sd like cromi-x had it way smoother and hasn't crashed yet. Plus has all the cyan features i know and love...
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk 4
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You are the first person to say that so must be something else you did to cause poor performance.
I'd love to get you up and running properly on cromi-x.

sbdags said:
You are the first person to say that so must be something else you did to cause poor performance.
I'd love to get you up and running properly on cromi-x.
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@sjgieson
His rom, sbdags, is very fast and smooth. I don't know how are we going to accurately measure the speed of the tf700t. According to most of the testers, all the measurement apps are lied and can not be trusted but fast and smooth are even worst because there are no data or numbers associating with the test data to back up the conclusion. Otherwise, we can test them side by side... It is just my opinion and don't kill me if I am saying something wrong...

LetMeKnow said:
@sjgieson
His rom, sbdags, is very fast and smooth. I don't know how are we going to accurately measure the speed of the tf700t. According to most of the testers, all the measurement apps are lied and can not be trusted but fast and smooth are even worst because there are no data or numbers associating with the test data to back up the conclusion. Otherwise, we can test them side by side... It is just my opinion and don't kill me if I am saying something wrong...
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I have had the TF700 for just a few weeks, but go back Droid1 days with running custom roms. Current devices is a Gnex running experimental KitKat, and Nexus 7 that is the wives DD running 10.1.
My experience with TF is as follows get device, unlock, try to load custom rom find out USB data port is DOA, return device, get new one, take two days to get unlock app to work (just kept trying) rejoiced due to unlocking, download Cromi latests, flashed with DATA2SD and choosing Hunds kernel. Running it that way for about 10 days, getting frustrated and returning to CM based ROM (I have ran CM on GNEX and previous devices 80-90% of the time).
First off, let me say I may be wrong about my Cromi situation and probably should have held off posting my experiences. In the last 24 hours I have spent a lot more time on these forums and have sdbags 1:1 helping me getting Data2SD up and running on CM based 4.3 rom. I have been reading more of the posts instead of just skimming them loooking for what I need to fix something and move on. I have to say I am impressed at folks here (specifically _that and sdbags), their ingenuity and expertise (not mention willingness to contribute) is impressively and rarely seen these days in my opinion.
To answer your question about speed, yes, Cromi-x was fast, by far the fastest 4.2 rom to date on any device I have ran. I am sure this is due to Data2SD and the many many tweaks that have been made. However I know 4.2 is plagued by no trim, and at least on my Gnex 4.3 based roms are more responsive (less times hung with no response) than 4.2 roms. So first off I have bad taste in my mouth with anything related to 4.2 because of my Gnex experiences (probably wrong way to look at things I know). So going in I was little worried about 4.2 based.
Here is a list of annoyances with the rom being based on Asus and not AOSP:
Pulldown menu (pull up in the table interface) not being Googles menu (why change it)
Softkeyboard layout (trying to get the at symbol), no swiping (IIRC)
No cCLOCK widget (I wish I didn't like that CM thing so much...)
None of those were deal breakers, I had planned on addressing those eventually but the following occured:
First boot, confirmed data2sd was working, ran benchmarks, was impressed how well it ran etc. Installed my apps, all was good with the world love at first boot....
Sat it down on table (was in dock) rebooted, came back up to welcome screen, lock tablet was restore to factory. Perplexed, I reinstalled my apps, and went about my merry way (never re-ran benchmarks or really looked into the files system too much, my bad).
Next few days crashed reboots occurred randomly (maybe due to the Hunds OC kernel, should have tried stock kernel i suppose)
Finally one day a reboot occured and I rebooted back into my original environment I had setup in the first few hours of Cromi, my data from the environment I was in appeared lost. At this point the annoyances listed above (related to Asus, not the Cromi-rom) were too much.
I wiped everthing (even formated SD card), and went to CMB (why I didn't go striaght 10.2 I don't know). I have not had one single reboot/crash since the move, it is pretty peppy and I am getting really good benchmarks for not having data2sd installed, which is odd. If I didn't see how fast cromi was, I wouldn't be looking to get data2sd back as of right now i feel like 4.3 AOSP with data2sd has to be faster than 4.2 ASUS w/ data2sd.
Obviously, after writing the above issues I didn't follow good trouble shooting practices and perhaps made emotional not logical decisions.
sbdags - I will give Cromi-X another go

sjgieson said:
I have had the TF700 for just a few weeks, but go back Droid1 days with running custom roms. Current devices is a Gnex running experimental KitKat, and Nexus 7 that is the wives DD running 10.1.
My experience with TF is as follows get device, unlock, try to load custom rom find out USB data port is DOA, return device, get new one, take two days to get unlock app to work (just kept trying) rejoiced due to unlocking, download Cromi latests, flashed with DATA2SD and choosing Hunds kernel. Running it that way for about 10 days, getting frustrated and returning to CM based ROM (I have ran CM on GNEX and previous devices 80-90% of the time).
First off, let me say I may be wrong about my Cromi situation and probably should have held off posting my experiences. In the last 24 hours I have spent a lot more time on these forums and have sdbags 1:1 helping me getting Data2SD up and running on CM based 4.3 rom. I have been reading more of the posts instead of just skimming them loooking for what I need to fix something and move on. I have to say I am impressed at folks here (specifically _that and sdbags), their ingenuity and expertise (not mention willingness to contribute) is impressively and rarely seen these days in my opinion.
To answer your question about speed, yes, Cromi-x was fast, by far the fastest 4.2 rom to date on any device I have ran. I am sure this is due to Data2SD and the many many tweaks that have been made. However I know 4.2 is plagued by no trim, and at least on my Gnex 4.3 based roms are more responsive (less times hung with no response) than 4.2 roms. So first off I have bad taste in my mouth with anything related to 4.2 because of my Gnex experiences (probably wrong way to look at things I know). So going in I was little worried about 4.2 based.
Here is a list of annoyances with the rom being based on Asus and not AOSP:
Pulldown menu (pull up in the table interface) not being Googles menu (why change it)
Softkeyboard layout (trying to get the at symbol), no swiping (IIRC)
No cCLOCK widget (I wish I didn't like that CM thing so much...)
None of those were deal breakers, I had planned on addressing those eventually but the following occured:
First boot, confirmed data2sd was working, ran benchmarks, was impressed how well it ran etc. Installed my apps, all was good with the world love at first boot....
Sat it down on table (was in dock) rebooted, came back up to welcome screen, lock tablet was restore to factory. Perplexed, I reinstalled my apps, and went about my merry way (never re-ran benchmarks or really looked into the files system too much, my bad).
Next few days crashed reboots occurred randomly (maybe due to the Hunds OC kernel, should have tried stock kernel i suppose)
Finally one day a reboot occured and I rebooted back into my original environment I had setup in the first few hours of Cromi, my data from the environment I was in appeared lost. At this point the annoyances listed above (related to Asus, not the Cromi-rom) were too much.
I wiped everthing (even formated SD card), and went to CMB (why I didn't go striaght 10.2 I don't know). I have not had one single reboot/crash since the move, it is pretty peppy and I am getting really good benchmarks for not having data2sd installed, which is odd. If I didn't see how fast cromi was, I wouldn't be looking to get data2sd back as of right now i feel like 4.3 AOSP with data2sd has to be faster than 4.2 ASUS w/ data2sd.
Obviously, after writing the above issues I didn't follow good trouble shooting practices and perhaps made emotional not logical decisions.
sbdags - I will give Cromi-X another go
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Wow, thanks for the good explanation... What I said was just my opinion, I hope that you are not offended..
Also, there is a trim supported on Cromi X but that would depend on the version of the kernel. You can ask _that or sbdags to help you mount it if it is not currently mounting as an option...
Good luck...:fingers-crossed:

Nope no offense taken! As you had a point .
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk 4

The only time I experience a crashing application is with boat browser. I leave the setting for flash set to always on and flash itself isn't a clean application. That is what causes my tablet to force close the app. I've not experienced the rebooting that I did running pure stock Asus firmware either and it otherwise runs perfect.
Maybe try using one of _that's OC kernals. While not as fast as hunds, they are stable and still offer a greater experience than stock. I haven't found needed to use the 1.8ghz performance mode in his kernals and for my needs the balanced setting at 1.3ghz works fine. The extra boost is there if needed.
Speed doesn't mean you will have the best user experience from the tablet. While hardware specs are meant to be the same for all TF700s, each component is different due to the manufacturing process for each tablet assembled. The CPU/components in your tablet may not play nice with hunds kernal.

a very good one
try cmbroms running 4.3.1 but very close to building 4.4 weekly updates and there great love it. if you have any question there team is very fast to respond http://forum.xda-developers.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=47629521:cowboy:

I have been running Cromi-X 5.1 for a few weeks now and it works great.

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were running cmbroms over here and loving it i hear from up the grapevine there getting kitkate soon so will be getting 4.4.1 cant wait the 4.3.1 is solid as a rock and i build them myself on my linix machine loving it

yugendreams said:
I'm getting my tablet Monday and I really don't want to have to flash different roms just to find one that works best.
I prefer Cyanogen stuff, I'm running the nightlies on my Razr Maxx HD, and would like to continue using it on a tablet. HOWEVER, it seems that Cromi has a more developed ROM. Am I wrong? What do you guys think is the best rom and why?
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Cromi-X will be a good option. I think it give you more freedom to install what you want a bit more flexible.

sbdags said:
You are the first person to say that so must be something else you did to cause poor performance.
I'd love to get you up and running properly on cromi-x.
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Hello and greetings from new user of TF700T.
I have been using this ROM for 3 days and I can say while the performance of cromi-x is not poor, it's not great either. Certainly better than CM11 (tried that before switching to cromi-x), but navigating the entire Android OS still feels sluggish. Not to say my TF700T is always slow, but tapping home button for instance, could take me 2-3 seconds before it starts reacting. When I open any apps, the transition animation is also sluggish, which is worse if I navigate apps from recent apps button. Lastly and the worst, Google Now and Google Now Launcher are very unpleasant to use, freezes on the opening and lags almost on the entire time.
I wonder if this kind of experience normal in TF700T considering the tablet is 2 years old? Or there are some tweaks I missed? I am currently running CROMi-X 5.4 Xenogenesis DEODEX.
For whatever the reason is, I'm still thankful for such a great ROM. It's the guys like you who make Android different and beautiful

Anggrian said:
Hello and greetings from new user of TF700T.
I have been using this ROM for 3 days and I can say while the performance of cromi-x is not poor, it's not great either. Certainly better than CM11 (tried that before switching to cromi-x), but navigating the entire Android OS still feels sluggish. Not to say my TF700T is always slow, but tapping home button for instance, could take me 2-3 seconds before it starts reacting. When I open any apps, the transition animation is also sluggish, which is worse if I navigate apps from recent apps button.
I wonder if this kind of experience normal in TF700T considering the tablet is 2 years old? Or there are some tweaks I missed? I am currently running CROMi-X 5.4 Xenogenesis DEODEX.
For whatever the reason is, I'm still thankful for such a great ROM. It's the guys like you who make Android different and beautiful
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Would you like to try my Extreme Tweaks, ET? Give it a shot and tell us what you think...:laugh:

Will hold on to this ROM for a week. If there is no possible improvement could be made, I'll different ROMs, your Extreme Tweaks, and basically anything dangerous
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Anggrian said:
Will hold on to this ROM for a week. If there is no possible improvement could be made, I'll different ROMs, your Extreme Tweaks, and basically anything dangerous
Sent from my Nexus 5 using XDA Free mobile app
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Actually, it is a part of the Cromi X v5.4. It is working fine with Cromi X ROM only and never test with other ROMs. It is running perfectly fine with all of my testers except one that he had a weird waking up issue....