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[Q] install eos or not

Hello, i'm a new wifi xoom user and i'm very tempted to use the eos rom because of the features it presents, especially the rooted parts. My hesitation comes from the fact that i know what i get, but i don't know what i lose abandoning the stock rom : hardware support, battery lifetime, application compatibility (i read that there may be problem with chrome beta for example), easy update mechanism. I hope some eos experts have answers to my interrogations.
Thank you

I think if you decide to flash the most recent Team EOS Nightly 79 you will be very very happy. If you are currently on Honeycomb it is a vast improvement in all areas that I can tell...the battery life is just as good as honeycomb, maybe even better. The new UI is much cleaner looking and just kinda sharper and more professional in my opinion than honeycomb. I have tried the stock ICS build and the latest Team EOS ICS build and to be honest the responsiveness of both are amazing compared to honeycomb, the window animations and transitions are much smoother and more fluid, the general feel is honestly that of a new tablet which I love. In my opinion, with the Team EOS build I haven't really noticed any bugs and the fact that it's rooted gives it more functionality, you can set the charging light which is a nice feature, and of course if you like you can over clock or undervolt although I find it to be perfect without doing either. Another great improvement is the browser, it opens and closes without any lag, and is much faster and cleaner when browsing, also sites that use flash seem to be much more seamless, same goes for Youtube videos. In my opinion this Team EOS ICS ROM is definitely the way to go, I have been using it as my daily driver since back when the first couple Nightly builds came out and I haven't looked back.
I would definitely recommend, if you are completely stock and on honeycomb that you go ahead and read up in these forums and then unlock your boot loader, flash a custom recovery and flash this ROM. If you took the ICS OTA update, then it's totally just personal preference as to whether or not you want to go with the rooted Team EOS ICS ROM.
In any case, hope you enjoy the XOOM experience as much as I do
Sent from my Suped up XOOM running Team EOS ICS Nightly 78!

Chrome beta works just fine.

Thanks a lot for your answers.
I currently have ics (i unlocked my french xoom to put the us stock rom in order to get it).
My wish to go on rooting is primarly for usb key and openvpn.
I would like to play some games too so that's why i wonder if the hardware support is the same or equivalent as stock rom ?
And does the eos team provides an ota update mechanism for the stable or for nighties ?
Are the same 3 languages available (us,fr,es) ?
Thanks a lot again

What differentiates an Asus ROM?

I keep hearing about how when you pick a ROM, you need to decide on either vanilla ICS or the Asus flavor.
What things does the Asus ROMs have that Megatron and AOKP doesn't? Is it just the couple widgets/apps/wallpapers that you can download separately anyway or is there more to it?
Thanks for your input!

dman918 said:
I keep hearing about how when you pick a ROM, you need to decide on either vanilla ICS or the Asus flavor.
What things does the Asus ROMs have that Megatron and AOKP doesn't? Is it just the couple widgets/apps/wallpapers that you can download separately anyway or is there more to it?
Thanks for your input!
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The Asus based ROMs (I know of the two big ones, Revolver and Revolution HD) don't offer as many extras as the other ROMs that have e.g. a CM9 base. They may be a bit more stable, and they are not really different from the stock ROM (at least in terms of look and feel). What is unique: they have the original Asus customized settings, so they allow to Mao the mouse buttons, and have the extended notification area (both not present in stock ICS ROMs).
If you want to have the best of both worlds, I'd recommend the Megatron ROM which has a great set of nice options and tweaks (more than the standard Cyanogenmod tweaks), and also let you choose between ICS and Asus virtual buttons, and give you the Asus keyboard and the option to install Polaris Office, supernote, their live wallpaper and widgets...).

I loaded Revolver on mine and at first appearance, it looks basically the same. But as you use it, everything is smoother and faster. I went one step further and loaded a custom kernel by Guevor which made it smoother and faster yet. These 2 together have completely changed how I view & use my TF. Some people have had good results just by loading a custom kernel on the stock rom too. I would do a bit of reading through the forum to see what might work for you. Not every one has had good success when going the custom route, so do some digging and try to get all your questions answered before you start hacking.

You just lose a few ASUS customized settings, but you gain the AOSP settings, I like AOSP better, but some just don't like the feel:
E.G. Sense vs TouchWiz vs AOSP vs ??? vs Profit

Gummy ROM (nightlies) is my favorite AOSP rom so far. It's an AOSP rom with some features from CM9, some from AOKP, some of their own and some Asus stuff. Its the best of all the worlds.

Theres a link to my rom videos in my signature if it helps.
My 2 chosen roms are:
Asus based: Frozn by Jcarrz1 - theres a couple of little bugs and although its not fully completed, combine it with one of the overclock kernels and the speed is on a different level.
I posted up how to set it up in the Frozn thread. Hopefully Jcarrz is still working on Frozn as im sure if it turns out like Krakd then it will be sublime!. If its too much hassle then - Revolver for sure.
Aosp / Aokp: No question it would have to be Gummy nightly. Browsing speed is much faster imo than any of the TF roms, nice tweeks, the devs baked in some themes, stable.....it really is a must try. You also get the delight of the nyam cat but i wont spoil it for you. All i will say is you can switch it off in Gummy settings :victory:
Good for flashaholics with it getting almost nightly updates.
Everyones different and theres a rom for everyone.
Just make sure your backed up and read about how to get out of a pickle. Otherwise just give them all a go and see what you like.:good:

You may need to flash one of the Asus ones to get any updated firmware for the keyboard. I.m not sure the aosp ones will do that.
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Gummy has my attention. Does each update require a full wipe or just cache and dalvik? I do not want to have to do full wipes all the time.
I know I will most likely need to try all of these and see what I like most, but I'd prefer to have a good base to start from.
I pretty much only surf the web, get email, stupid stuff like that. Not really much for games outside of Draw Something, Hanging with Friends. Looking for a ROM that is "pretty" or "flashy". Needs to look good, flow quickly and smoothly when I use it, and is customizable so I can make it the way I want.

dman918 said:
Gummy has my attention. Does each update require a full wipe or just cache and dalvik? I do not want to have to do full wipes all the time.
I know I will most likely need to try all of these and see what I like most, but I'd prefer to have a good base to start from.
I pretty much only surf the web, get email, stupid stuff like that. Not really much for games outside of Draw Something, Hanging with Friends. Looking for a ROM that is "pretty" or "flashy". Needs to look good, flow quickly and smoothly when I use it, and is customizable so I can make it the way I want.
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with nightlies i think just wiping dalvik and cache will be fine
here is another rom to check out AOKPCB
looks really fancy basically is AOKP but themed. Haven't tried it yet though.
Im also in a situation on which rom to just stick with. Right now im using revolver because its based on stock firmware but i'm missing some AOSP. Was running Megatron a while back for a long time but i need a rom that gets updated every now and then.

Kinda feels like Megatron is laggier than the Asus ROMs. Anyone else find this? I did do a full wipe. Also, is there a way to increase the auto brightness value? It is awfully dim.
Otherwise, it is a great mix to get really everything that both variants have to offer. Really only missing the pretty power screen but everything else (and more) is there.
One hour later edit: This ROM is definitely laggy. I press to go into the menu and it's jerky. Really everything is... jerky. Ran a benchmark and had a good score (3200+) but the navigation throughout isn't fluid.

dman918 said:
Kinda feels like Megatron is laggier than the Asus ROMs. Anyone else find this? I did do a full wipe. Also, is there a way to increase the auto brightness value? It is awfully dim.
Otherwise, it is a great mix to get really everything that both variants have to offer. Really only missing the pretty power screen but everything else (and more) is there.
One hour later edit: This ROM is definitely laggy. I press to go into the menu and it's jerky. Really everything is... jerky. Ran a benchmark and had a good score (3200+) but the navigation throughout isn't fluid.
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I am also getting lags on all aosp roms that I have tried so far. I am on a B70.

Valbowski said:
I am also getting lags on all aosp roms that I have tried so far. I am on a B70.
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I have a B70 running Steel Droid v2. It's an AOKP based rom and I'm not having any lag issues. It might not necessarily be a hardware thing. Have you tried a custom kernel that you can overclock? I keep it oc'd at 1200MHz because I, personally, haven't seen a noticeable difference when I set it at a higher frequency.
Sent from my EPAD using xda app-developers app

New observation
I tried both Harmony v3 for aosp and Guevor 22.6 and get the same issues. I tried the new aokp Milestone 6 with both guevor 22.6 for aokp and Harmony aosp v3 but still get bad framerates in many games. One new observation from tonight: In the game "Siege Hero", if the option "Stretch to fill screen" is selected, I get bad framerates but great graphics. If I select "Zoom to fill screen", graphics are low res but everything is very fluid. This does not happen on asus based roms.
Another example of what I am getting is the game "Extreme skater" that does not offer compatibility choices, probably because it supports native resolution, but rarely stays fluid on aokp/cm9/aosp but runs great on asus based roms.
It looks like some other users are getting the same problems but we are not a lot complaining.
Any ideas?
I am on a B70KAS... TF101.

Wait for OTA JB or go with EOS JB?

Was wondering should I just wait for OTA JB update or just flash custom EOS JB rom.Just restored my Xoom to factory about a month ago.I know how to flash/restore/recover from brick but just wanted some opinions on this.

Try it and see yourself. You might love JB so much, you won't want to wait for OTA.
Besides, EOS will give more features and performance enhancements.

my opinion
Use JB from team Eos is a GREAT experience...
You will love with its smoothness and responsiveness.
Now I use build #93, and its blazing fast. I love it.
I started use it since #84, #88 and #92.
I love this ROM, but now I think about going back to stock ICS, why?
1st, I notice that battery life still greater on ICS, even working on the same 3g network all the time. (I rarely use WiFi)
2nd, I found that on #93 'auto' brightness didn't work correctly, the screen won't decrease its brightness on darker surrounding.
3rd, I can't use Google voice translator, it won't recognize my voice.
That's why I wanna go back to ICS. Maybe my reason didn't bother you, but that's matter for me.
So, if you can ignore a little problem that you might find on JB, I can say that you should try it now, you will amaze for its smoothness.
But now, I will wait for a moment and go back to ICS.
It such a great great great experience with JB, an Amazing work by Team EOS:good:....

ota JB will have JB kernel and new binary file ( dirver ?) for camera etc , anc can upgrade radio baseband
EOS JB have ICS kernel , ICS (some HC ) binary file ... but have some tweak like over/down clock , color change of clock ....

no waiting
I didn't have to wait. I'm not rooted or invited to the soak test. On a whim I deleted the cache from the framework app and then checked for updates.
The OTA downloaded and I'm on 4.1.1 now. Your mileage may vary...

one more for EOS
I would consider EOS especially since returning to stock is relatively simple. My options for the update were limited - Canadian Eh
Also I've been using the ICS from EOS since I got my tablet -- May 3 rec'd the tablet and on May 5 I installed ICS using the nightlies from EOS, never looked back and have had few issues, none serious.
EOS roms and the Xoom- makes that 3 year old tablet perform like some of the newer wonder tabs and for way less money.
However you go, I am sure you will like JB android... it seems to be somewhat smoother and troublefree.

Root and leave Stock ICS .27 for something more stable: recommendations?

I realize this posting is going to be asking a lot of questions but I hope the thread will be helpful to everyone suffering with the awful ICS update series on the ASUS TF101. So please: if you have specific knowledge and experience, think of the large community of suffering TF101 owners and help them remedy the problem. Because it is apparent that ASUS has abandoned us.
BACKGROUND
I have a TF101 and I am disgusted with how badly ASUS has handled the development/testing/rollout of ICS. There's no point in being fast to market if you're going to put out crap that destabilizes your hardware!
- If I only had the easy choice of keeping the latest OTA (at the moment .27) or returning to Honeycomb, I would do the latter. It didn't crash. And it responded crisply to touches. But part of ASUS idiocy is not providing a backwards migration path even though they have ample evidence that they have a shoddy ICS ROM.
I realize, before asking, that there are a lot of combinations and permutations to what you folks might recommend. But let me help you to understand what I am seeking at the end of the migration:
First off about me: I have prior experience rooting and replacing ROM's. (Nexus One now runs CM 7.1. Samsung Galaxy Tab 7" GT-P1000 now running CM9.) But I would not describe myself as an experienced or confident person-- I suppose it would help if all Android devices used the same tools and procedures for performing the migration.
Bottom Line: I am capable of following instructions and I am comfortable with CWM flashing once I have a rooted device with CWM.
My criteria:
Stability:
I want highest possible stability- I am realistic; I realize that the ASUS TF101 is already cursed. But I would settle for one crash every couple of days.
Smooth performance:
Under .27 stock, there is a ridiculously slow response to touch events. My single core first generation Samsung 7" performs faster!
Ungimmicky:
I don't need flashy special features built into the ROM. I'd be happy with something that stays reasonably close to the vanilla Android ICS experience.
(If it helps, I am fairly pleased with the CM9 implementation on my ancient Samsung 7".)
What I Use TF101 For:
- Slingplayer Mobile
- Video files (.avi, .mp4, .mpg, .flv, .mkv)
- Reading: PressReader, Pulse, Flipboard
- Occasionally using an Office-type suite and/or Google Drive docs
What I Don't Want or Need
- Games
- ASUS "value added" bloatware apps
Questions:
- What are the important differences between the various CM9 implementations?
I see there are at least two CM9 implementations for the TF101. (Which may or may not be the same as the one posted at the CyanogenMod site:
http://get.cm/?device=tf101&type=stable
- I have done some reading about Revolver and Overcome. But I am not sure whether these are a better choice than CM9. Are they more reliable because they are based on the stock ROM?
(Remember that I don't want or need any ASUS apps.)
- So let's start with the important question: based on my needs and desire for a quick move to a rooted, stable, ICS TF101, which ROM should I use?
- Which kernel and version number should I flash to accompany that particular ROM?
- Is there a guide (either here on XDA or elsewhere) that will take me from stock, unrooted ICS .27 to installing CWM?
- A bonus would be if it took me all the way to flashing the final ROM, but this is not essential
One last point: I already understand the idea that CWM would let me try out various ROMs. And I am comfortable doing that if I am not happy with my first choice.
Thanks in advance, everyone!

goattee said:
I realize this posting is going to be asking a lot of questions but I hope the thread will be helpful to everyone suffering with the awful ICS update series on the ASUS TF101. So please: if you have specific knowledge and experience, think of the large community of suffering TF101 owners and help them remedy the problem. Because it is apparent that ASUS has abandoned us.
BACKGROUND
I have a TF101 and I am disgusted with how badly ASUS has handled the development/testing/rollout of ICS. There's no point in being fast to market if you're going to put out crap that destabilizes your hardware!
- If I only had the easy choice of keeping the latest OTA (at the moment .27) or returning to Honeycomb, I would do the latter. It didn't crash. And it responded crisply to touches. But part of ASUS idiocy is not providing a backwards migration path even though they have ample evidence that they have a shoddy ICS ROM.
I realize, before asking, that there are a lot of combinations and permutations to what you folks might recommend. But let me help you to understand what I am seeking at the end of the migration:
First off about me: I have prior experience rooting and replacing ROM's. (Nexus One now runs CM 7.1. Samsung Galaxy Tab 7" GT-P1000 now running CM9.) But I would not describe myself as an experienced or confident person-- I suppose it would help if all Android devices used the same tools and procedures for performing the migration.
Bottom Line: I am capable of following instructions and I am comfortable with CWM flashing once I have a rooted device with CWM.
My criteria:
Stability:
I want highest possible stability- I am realistic; I realize that the ASUS TF101 is already cursed. But I would settle for one crash every couple of days.
Smooth performance:
Under .27 stock, there is a ridiculously slow response to touch events. My single core first generation Samsung 7" performs faster!
Ungimmicky:
I don't need flashy special features built into the ROM. I'd be happy with something that stays reasonably close to the vanilla Android ICS experience.
(If it helps, I am fairly pleased with the CM9 implementation on my ancient Samsung 7".)
What I Use TF101 For:
- Slingplayer Mobile
- Video files (.avi, .mp4, .mpg, .flv, .mkv)
- Reading: PressReader, Pulse, Flipboard
- Occasionally using an Office-type suite and/or Google Drive docs
What I Don't Want or Need
- Games
- ASUS "value added" bloatware apps
Questions:
- What are the important differences between the various CM9 implementations?
I see there are at least two CM9 implementations for the TF101. (Which may or may not be the same as the one posted at the CyanogenMod site:
http://get.cm/?device=tf101&type=stable
- I have done some reading about Revolver and Overcome. But I am not sure whether these are a better choice than CM9. Are they more reliable because they are based on the stock ROM?
(Remember that I don't want or need any ASUS apps.)
- So let's start with the important question: based on my needs and desire for a quick move to a rooted, stable, ICS TF101, which ROM should I use?
- Which kernel and version number should I flash to accompany that particular ROM?
- Is there a guide (either here on XDA or elsewhere) that will take me from stock, unrooted ICS .27 to installing CWM?
- A bonus would be if it took me all the way to flashing the final ROM, but this is not essential
One last point: I already understand the idea that CWM would let me try out various ROMs. And I am comfortable doing that if I am not happy with my first choice.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
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None of stock ROMs r stable r smooth and I hate them.. in my opinion rooting n custom is the way to go.... when I was on ICS, I preferred revolver ICS ROM but android revolution HD is also very smooth n stable... I have moved onto jelly bean but since its in alpha/nightly versions its up to you..
I prefer easy flash to root and install recovery, please choose twrp or rogue recovery as they r better than cwm in my opinion...
For revolver n revolution you don't need any custom kernel as both run on stock kernel...
PS: when you use easy flash follow instructions and install universal naked driver.... good luck
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using xda app-developers app

I just hopped back to Megatron after tinkering with jelly bean rooms, it's still the best daily workhorse from I've tried on this thing.

udupa82 said:
... when I was on ICS, I preferred revolver ICS ROM
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I rooted and flashed Revolver. So far I am relying on the original kernel The tablet is no longer hesitating. So far no random FCs of apps. The Gmail app in particular is not afraid to stay alive.
I am quite pleased!

Best ROM for TF700?

I'm getting my tablet Monday and I really don't want to have to flash different roms just to find one that works best.
I prefer Cyanogen stuff, I'm running the nightlies on my Razr Maxx HD, and would like to continue using it on a tablet. HOWEVER, it seems that Cromi has a more developed ROM. Am I wrong? What do you guys think is the best rom and why?

yugendreams said:
I'm getting my tablet Monday and I really don't want to have to flash different roms just to find one that works best.
I prefer Cyanogen stuff, I'm running the nightlies on my Razr Maxx HD, and would like to continue using it on a tablet. HOWEVER, it seems that Cromi has a more developed ROM. Am I wrong? What do you guys think is the best rom and why?
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CROMi-X obviously
Try a few out though - see what you think.

yugendreams said:
I'm getting my tablet Monday and I really don't want to have to flash different roms just to find one that works best.
I prefer Cyanogen stuff, I'm running the nightlies on my Razr Maxx HD, and would like to continue using it on a tablet. HOWEVER, it seems that Cromi has a more developed ROM. Am I wrong? What do you guys think is the best rom and why?
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Wait a few weeks and you may not have to decide! sbdags and _that are continuing to work on ROM2SD for CROMi-X! Run his rom on internal and another rom on your microSD. Already works for CROMi-X, miniCROMi-X, but CM is coming - I can feel it

Linux is where the real funs at

JoinTheRealms said:
Linux is where the real funs at
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If only I had the time to study.....:crying:

yugendreams said:
I'm getting my tablet Monday and I really don't want to have to flash different roms just to find one that works best.
I prefer Cyanogen stuff, I'm running the nightlies on my Razr Maxx HD, and would like to continue using it on a tablet. HOWEVER, it seems that Cromi has a more developed ROM. Am I wrong? What do you guys think is the best rom and why?
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Cromi-x is highly recommended, but on my tablet it did run well at all. I would recommend going with cyan based rom, I run cyan on all my other android devices and i could not get used to the Asus based roms at all.
Currently running CMB even without data2sd like cromi-x had it way smoother and hasn't crashed yet. Plus has all the cyan features i know and love...
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk 4

sjgieson said:
Cromi-x is highly recommended, but on my tablet it did run well at all. I would recommend going with cyan based rom, I run cyan on all my other android devices and i could not get used to the Asus based roms at all.
Currently running CMB even without data2sd like cromi-x had it way smoother and hasn't crashed yet. Plus has all the cyan features i know and love...
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk 4
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You are the first person to say that so must be something else you did to cause poor performance.
I'd love to get you up and running properly on cromi-x.

sbdags said:
You are the first person to say that so must be something else you did to cause poor performance.
I'd love to get you up and running properly on cromi-x.
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@sjgieson
His rom, sbdags, is very fast and smooth. I don't know how are we going to accurately measure the speed of the tf700t. According to most of the testers, all the measurement apps are lied and can not be trusted but fast and smooth are even worst because there are no data or numbers associating with the test data to back up the conclusion. Otherwise, we can test them side by side... It is just my opinion and don't kill me if I am saying something wrong...

LetMeKnow said:
@sjgieson
His rom, sbdags, is very fast and smooth. I don't know how are we going to accurately measure the speed of the tf700t. According to most of the testers, all the measurement apps are lied and can not be trusted but fast and smooth are even worst because there are no data or numbers associating with the test data to back up the conclusion. Otherwise, we can test them side by side... It is just my opinion and don't kill me if I am saying something wrong...
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I have had the TF700 for just a few weeks, but go back Droid1 days with running custom roms. Current devices is a Gnex running experimental KitKat, and Nexus 7 that is the wives DD running 10.1.
My experience with TF is as follows get device, unlock, try to load custom rom find out USB data port is DOA, return device, get new one, take two days to get unlock app to work (just kept trying) rejoiced due to unlocking, download Cromi latests, flashed with DATA2SD and choosing Hunds kernel. Running it that way for about 10 days, getting frustrated and returning to CM based ROM (I have ran CM on GNEX and previous devices 80-90% of the time).
First off, let me say I may be wrong about my Cromi situation and probably should have held off posting my experiences. In the last 24 hours I have spent a lot more time on these forums and have sdbags 1:1 helping me getting Data2SD up and running on CM based 4.3 rom. I have been reading more of the posts instead of just skimming them loooking for what I need to fix something and move on. I have to say I am impressed at folks here (specifically _that and sdbags), their ingenuity and expertise (not mention willingness to contribute) is impressively and rarely seen these days in my opinion.
To answer your question about speed, yes, Cromi-x was fast, by far the fastest 4.2 rom to date on any device I have ran. I am sure this is due to Data2SD and the many many tweaks that have been made. However I know 4.2 is plagued by no trim, and at least on my Gnex 4.3 based roms are more responsive (less times hung with no response) than 4.2 roms. So first off I have bad taste in my mouth with anything related to 4.2 because of my Gnex experiences (probably wrong way to look at things I know). So going in I was little worried about 4.2 based.
Here is a list of annoyances with the rom being based on Asus and not AOSP:
Pulldown menu (pull up in the table interface) not being Googles menu (why change it)
Softkeyboard layout (trying to get the at symbol), no swiping (IIRC)
No cCLOCK widget (I wish I didn't like that CM thing so much...)
None of those were deal breakers, I had planned on addressing those eventually but the following occured:
First boot, confirmed data2sd was working, ran benchmarks, was impressed how well it ran etc. Installed my apps, all was good with the world love at first boot....
Sat it down on table (was in dock) rebooted, came back up to welcome screen, lock tablet was restore to factory. Perplexed, I reinstalled my apps, and went about my merry way (never re-ran benchmarks or really looked into the files system too much, my bad).
Next few days crashed reboots occurred randomly (maybe due to the Hunds OC kernel, should have tried stock kernel i suppose)
Finally one day a reboot occured and I rebooted back into my original environment I had setup in the first few hours of Cromi, my data from the environment I was in appeared lost. At this point the annoyances listed above (related to Asus, not the Cromi-rom) were too much.
I wiped everthing (even formated SD card), and went to CMB (why I didn't go striaght 10.2 I don't know). I have not had one single reboot/crash since the move, it is pretty peppy and I am getting really good benchmarks for not having data2sd installed, which is odd. If I didn't see how fast cromi was, I wouldn't be looking to get data2sd back as of right now i feel like 4.3 AOSP with data2sd has to be faster than 4.2 ASUS w/ data2sd.
Obviously, after writing the above issues I didn't follow good trouble shooting practices and perhaps made emotional not logical decisions.
sbdags - I will give Cromi-X another go

sjgieson said:
I have had the TF700 for just a few weeks, but go back Droid1 days with running custom roms. Current devices is a Gnex running experimental KitKat, and Nexus 7 that is the wives DD running 10.1.
My experience with TF is as follows get device, unlock, try to load custom rom find out USB data port is DOA, return device, get new one, take two days to get unlock app to work (just kept trying) rejoiced due to unlocking, download Cromi latests, flashed with DATA2SD and choosing Hunds kernel. Running it that way for about 10 days, getting frustrated and returning to CM based ROM (I have ran CM on GNEX and previous devices 80-90% of the time).
First off, let me say I may be wrong about my Cromi situation and probably should have held off posting my experiences. In the last 24 hours I have spent a lot more time on these forums and have sdbags 1:1 helping me getting Data2SD up and running on CM based 4.3 rom. I have been reading more of the posts instead of just skimming them loooking for what I need to fix something and move on. I have to say I am impressed at folks here (specifically _that and sdbags), their ingenuity and expertise (not mention willingness to contribute) is impressively and rarely seen these days in my opinion.
To answer your question about speed, yes, Cromi-x was fast, by far the fastest 4.2 rom to date on any device I have ran. I am sure this is due to Data2SD and the many many tweaks that have been made. However I know 4.2 is plagued by no trim, and at least on my Gnex 4.3 based roms are more responsive (less times hung with no response) than 4.2 roms. So first off I have bad taste in my mouth with anything related to 4.2 because of my Gnex experiences (probably wrong way to look at things I know). So going in I was little worried about 4.2 based.
Here is a list of annoyances with the rom being based on Asus and not AOSP:
Pulldown menu (pull up in the table interface) not being Googles menu (why change it)
Softkeyboard layout (trying to get the at symbol), no swiping (IIRC)
No cCLOCK widget (I wish I didn't like that CM thing so much...)
None of those were deal breakers, I had planned on addressing those eventually but the following occured:
First boot, confirmed data2sd was working, ran benchmarks, was impressed how well it ran etc. Installed my apps, all was good with the world love at first boot....
Sat it down on table (was in dock) rebooted, came back up to welcome screen, lock tablet was restore to factory. Perplexed, I reinstalled my apps, and went about my merry way (never re-ran benchmarks or really looked into the files system too much, my bad).
Next few days crashed reboots occurred randomly (maybe due to the Hunds OC kernel, should have tried stock kernel i suppose)
Finally one day a reboot occured and I rebooted back into my original environment I had setup in the first few hours of Cromi, my data from the environment I was in appeared lost. At this point the annoyances listed above (related to Asus, not the Cromi-rom) were too much.
I wiped everthing (even formated SD card), and went to CMB (why I didn't go striaght 10.2 I don't know). I have not had one single reboot/crash since the move, it is pretty peppy and I am getting really good benchmarks for not having data2sd installed, which is odd. If I didn't see how fast cromi was, I wouldn't be looking to get data2sd back as of right now i feel like 4.3 AOSP with data2sd has to be faster than 4.2 ASUS w/ data2sd.
Obviously, after writing the above issues I didn't follow good trouble shooting practices and perhaps made emotional not logical decisions.
sbdags - I will give Cromi-X another go
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Wow, thanks for the good explanation... What I said was just my opinion, I hope that you are not offended..
Also, there is a trim supported on Cromi X but that would depend on the version of the kernel. You can ask _that or sbdags to help you mount it if it is not currently mounting as an option...
Good luck...:fingers-crossed:

Nope no offense taken! As you had a point .
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk 4

The only time I experience a crashing application is with boat browser. I leave the setting for flash set to always on and flash itself isn't a clean application. That is what causes my tablet to force close the app. I've not experienced the rebooting that I did running pure stock Asus firmware either and it otherwise runs perfect.
Maybe try using one of _that's OC kernals. While not as fast as hunds, they are stable and still offer a greater experience than stock. I haven't found needed to use the 1.8ghz performance mode in his kernals and for my needs the balanced setting at 1.3ghz works fine. The extra boost is there if needed.
Speed doesn't mean you will have the best user experience from the tablet. While hardware specs are meant to be the same for all TF700s, each component is different due to the manufacturing process for each tablet assembled. The CPU/components in your tablet may not play nice with hunds kernal.

a very good one
try cmbroms running 4.3.1 but very close to building 4.4 weekly updates and there great love it. if you have any question there team is very fast to respond http://forum.xda-developers.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=47629521:cowboy:

I have been running Cromi-X 5.1 for a few weeks now and it works great.

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were running cmbroms over here and loving it i hear from up the grapevine there getting kitkate soon so will be getting 4.4.1 cant wait the 4.3.1 is solid as a rock and i build them myself on my linix machine loving it

yugendreams said:
I'm getting my tablet Monday and I really don't want to have to flash different roms just to find one that works best.
I prefer Cyanogen stuff, I'm running the nightlies on my Razr Maxx HD, and would like to continue using it on a tablet. HOWEVER, it seems that Cromi has a more developed ROM. Am I wrong? What do you guys think is the best rom and why?
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Cromi-X will be a good option. I think it give you more freedom to install what you want a bit more flexible.

sbdags said:
You are the first person to say that so must be something else you did to cause poor performance.
I'd love to get you up and running properly on cromi-x.
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Hello and greetings from new user of TF700T.
I have been using this ROM for 3 days and I can say while the performance of cromi-x is not poor, it's not great either. Certainly better than CM11 (tried that before switching to cromi-x), but navigating the entire Android OS still feels sluggish. Not to say my TF700T is always slow, but tapping home button for instance, could take me 2-3 seconds before it starts reacting. When I open any apps, the transition animation is also sluggish, which is worse if I navigate apps from recent apps button. Lastly and the worst, Google Now and Google Now Launcher are very unpleasant to use, freezes on the opening and lags almost on the entire time.
I wonder if this kind of experience normal in TF700T considering the tablet is 2 years old? Or there are some tweaks I missed? I am currently running CROMi-X 5.4 Xenogenesis DEODEX.
For whatever the reason is, I'm still thankful for such a great ROM. It's the guys like you who make Android different and beautiful

Anggrian said:
Hello and greetings from new user of TF700T.
I have been using this ROM for 3 days and I can say while the performance of cromi-x is not poor, it's not great either. Certainly better than CM11 (tried that before switching to cromi-x), but navigating the entire Android OS still feels sluggish. Not to say my TF700T is always slow, but tapping home button for instance, could take me 2-3 seconds before it starts reacting. When I open any apps, the transition animation is also sluggish, which is worse if I navigate apps from recent apps button.
I wonder if this kind of experience normal in TF700T considering the tablet is 2 years old? Or there are some tweaks I missed? I am currently running CROMi-X 5.4 Xenogenesis DEODEX.
For whatever the reason is, I'm still thankful for such a great ROM. It's the guys like you who make Android different and beautiful
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Would you like to try my Extreme Tweaks, ET? Give it a shot and tell us what you think...:laugh:

Will hold on to this ROM for a week. If there is no possible improvement could be made, I'll different ROMs, your Extreme Tweaks, and basically anything dangerous
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Anggrian said:
Will hold on to this ROM for a week. If there is no possible improvement could be made, I'll different ROMs, your Extreme Tweaks, and basically anything dangerous
Sent from my Nexus 5 using XDA Free mobile app
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Actually, it is a part of the Cromi X v5.4. It is working fine with Cromi X ROM only and never test with other ROMs. It is running perfectly fine with all of my testers except one that he had a weird waking up issue....