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do you guys think it would be a good idea to get a nexus prime?
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So finally a phone you guys think is worth switching to?
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So finally a phone you guys think is worth switching to?
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Only if T-Mobile isn't cut out of the loop again and that curve on the screen isn't so insanely exaggerated as the teaser makes it appear to be.
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Only if T-Mobile isn't cut out of the loop again
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Nexus 1 and the Nexus S launched with T-Mobile and AWS before anyone else, not sure how they got "cut out of the loop"
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Nexus 1 and the Nexus S launched with T-Mobile and AWS before anyone else, not sure how they got "cut out of the loop"
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The Nexus S 4G (which wasn't really different), so I did do a bit of keyboard-in-mouth, for a minute there I did forget the Nexus S came out on T-Mobile first. Tired.
I came from the Nexus One, bought the G2x off-contract, specically to be able to pick up the Nexus Prime at a discount.
I just hope the nexus prime won't disappoint. Rumors on specs are mixed. The qualcomm chips in the Tmo SG2 and Amaze are meh. Also 5mp camera is meh.... other specs say it'll have the Exynos chipset and 8mp cam. Some say Verizon will get it first others say T-Mobile. Verizon has the Droid Prime with similar specs already and aren't ones to keep it clean with Android.
Either way, if the specs are worthwhile over the G2x, I'll grab it.
Best solution for me personally would be Verizon with sweet specs as my old work blackberry needs upgraded and I set up our new exchange to work properly so my company is allowing Android sets now... meaning I can kill my $70 personal T-Mobile line, sell my G2x and profit.
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I honestly don't think it's that much of an upgrade of our G2x's. Our phone is still up to par with alot of the phones out there now.. Once we get ICS on this thing, we should be fine.
Will it work on at&t?
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Yeah. I think it'll get more development support and the devs won't have to worry about nvidia giving up the source codes.
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The Prime looks nice but I plan on holding onto my G2x until the phone hits at least the one year mark if not more to see what's coming next spring and summer. Quad core phones anyone?
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I know everyone wants the latest and greatest, but sometimes it's a bit overkill. Unless you have a good job with 500+ bucks to throw I don't see why we should be running to get the Prime when you already have a Tegra 2 Dual core device. Nothing can even tough this device yet.
It'd be hard for me to dump my dual core device for another dual core. At this point might as well wait for whatever the next gen quads come out next year. And once that happens, I don't even know what we'd do with a quad core lol.
Well... We'd buy more batteries, of course.
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Well... We'd buy more batteries, of course.
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Lol, I seriously think they should just take a break on the progression of processors, screens, GPU's, etc. and use that time and man power in advancing the technology of battery's... That's literally the only Achilles heel that even the best smartphone's have these days.
At this point, I'd rather have the creation of a 5,000 mAH battery with out changing it's size than a quad core processor.
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Lol, I seriously think they should just take a break on the progression of processors, screens, GPU's, etc. and use that time and man power in advancing the technology of battery's... That's literally the only Achilles heel that even the best smartphone's have these days.
At this point, I'd rather have the creation of a 5,000 mAH battery with out changing it's size than a quad core processor.
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Agreed ten fold. I'm waiting til the Nexus Double Prime before I plan to upgrade. This phone is doing just fine, and has a very nice set of developers working on it for us.
If they did make quad core phones, I bet the battery life would be at least 20% worse than now. When I'm not even getting super amazing battery life to begin with, it might be a problem.
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I honestly don't think it's that much of an upgrade of our G2x's. Our phone is still up to par with alot of the phones out there now.. Once we get ICS on this thing, we should be fine.
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Yeah, main difference between the two will be updates. Something the G2X will probably never officially see. After the half ass 2.3 update we got I'm pretty much over it.
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I really don't see the point of quad core phones; unless Google does something unbelievable with Jelly Bean that needs an insane amount of processing, nothing a smartphone does needs that much. Hell, dual core isn't even that necessary unless you run a lot of 3D stuff.
There is such a thing as overkill people. I'd like to see phone manufactorers declare the smartphone as it exists now finished and start working on some new innovations that would make better hardware necessary. 3D screen ala Nintendo 3DS with FFC capable of eye-tracking to orient the 3D so you see it at any angle?
While I agree that the G2x can hold its own, I do miss owning a nexus device. My friend still has his Nexus One and running official software we can only get via custom roms.
My reasoning to grabbing the Nexus Prime IF if launches on Verizon is so my work can pay for it. Unfortunately I heard Verizon is launching the Galaxy Prime.... which is similar but not the nexus prime backed by Google.
Well just have to wait until Tuesday. All the rumors running around its hard to make any reasonable decision.
If Verizon gets gimped on Google support then I'll keep my G2x for a long while.
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Agreed. My work is on sprint and I am waiting to see if it launches on sprint. If it does, I'll pick it up. If not, either sii or stay on g2x. It looks to me that the prime is going to launch on everyone but sprint.
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http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13970_7-57385398-78/htc-gets-serious-with-its-one-smartphone-series/
I'm a bit disappointed about no microsd support and apparently not being able to get to the battery. Also these won't have any quad core goodness. The super amoled is a nice improvement though.
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http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13970_7-57385398-78/htc-gets-serious-with-its-one-smartphone-series/
I'm a bit disappointed about no microsd support and apparently not being able to get to the battery. Also these won't have any quad core goodness. The super amoled is a nice improvement though.
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there's quad core and microsd support is useless , 32 gb memory
I'm just gonna go all the way and say it's a letdown altogether. No quad-core (inb4 "IS IT REALLY NECESSARY?! No, but in the future it might be), no MicroSD support, no user-removable battery, Sense 4.0 is terrible and completely ruins ICS.
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there's quad core and microsd support is useless , 32 gb memory
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It's not useless. MicroSD cards are about replace-ability and portability. eMMC corrupts more frequently than MicroSD cards, and then what will you do?
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http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13970_7-57385398-78/htc-gets-serious-with-its-one-smartphone-series/
I'm a bit disappointed about no microsd support and apparently not being able to get to the battery. Also these won't have any quad core goodness. The super amoled is a nice improvement though.
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The AT&T varient has the new Qualcomm S4 which blows away the Tegra 3 in benchmarks (Go to anandtech). I think the One X looks pretty amazing, but I'm 99% sure I'll be getting the GS III when it comes out. I love my SII so much, and I don't think I would want to ever go to a display that isn't Amoled. Anyways, the SIII will blow this away just like the GSII blew the Sensation away.
**You guys are totally misinformed when it comes to processing power. The S4 is much better than the ****ty Tegra 3. http://www.anandtech.com/show/5563/qualcomms-snapdragon-s4-krait-vs-nvidias-tegra-3
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I'm just gonna go all the way and say it's a letdown altogether. No quad-core (inb4 "IS IT REALLY NECESSARY?! No, but in the future it might be), no MicroSD support, no user-removable battery, Sense 4.0 is terrible and completely ruins ICS.
It's not useless. MicroSD cards are about replace-ability and portability. eMMC corrupts more frequently than MicroSD cards, and then what will you do?
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Dude they are using the dual core s4 krait...28nm my friend. I agree about lack of micro SD tho. Not having a microsd to me is an automatic no purchase. I REFUSE to stream my own content once I run out of space.
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The biggest letdown is no microSD. That's the reason I got the G2 over the Nexus S.
HTC had a chance to wow me as I have been looking to upgrade my phone. This "HUGE ANNOUNCEMENT!!" was a major let down. Any additional news was not good news. Not quad core in the US? AT&T only is an instant killer for most people I know. I'd rather use a walkie talkie from the 90's with the giant metal antennae than use AT&T.
So... anyone have a suggestion for a new badass phone coming out? Preferably I'd love to have something that can use my powermat. As for HTC...goodbye business.
Not that overly impressive preview of the one X.
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...bile-phones/hands-on-htc-one-x-review-1066097
The lack of sd support has always baffled me. I can't understand why certain manufacturers would omit such an important and basic feature, such as an sd slot. If anybody could shed light on this, Id be curious to know.
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It's bizarre, I have a 32GB card in my DHD, what am I supposed to do if I buy a One X, just discard it?
I can understand to a point. I mean the Iphones don't let you meddle with the memory. I think the SD card is A, their way to try and limit rooting, and B, helps keep the thickness of the phone down.
Yeah Ive been doing some research and Nvidia's tegra products are way over-rated. They left out a whole set of instructions, and their GPU gets its butt kicked by the Power VR SGX540 and the Adreno 205. Also this new dual-core Snapdragon blows away everything thats currently out, I don't think it'll be so bad. I'm seriously considering upgrading to this, but my only concern is HTC's site has the AT&T variant listed as 16GB of storage. 16GB and no SD would be a deal breaker, however 32GB and no SD I'm perfectly content with.
Yeah, I really hope the US variant has more than 16 GB. That'd be idiotic.
what's with all these jumbophones? 4.3 is really the max for me, 4 would be ideal
The Desire Z is gonna be my last HTC I guess. They really need to come up with a new design language. The One X looks horrible, it's oversized, though the specs are near ideal at this point. The One S is the looks OK but has a Pentile screen (pentile = gtfo). The One V actually looks the best out of the bunch, but the specs are crap.
I think i'm gonna go with the Xperia P for this round, it's got about the same performance as the galaxy s2 (mali400mp gpu), great design, screen and camera.
Also what's up with all this memory babble? I have an 8GB card on my DZ and it's still not full. 16GB will be more than enough for most people, and seriously if you fill up 32GB, you have issues (you don't need to install ALL the games or put ALL your music on the phone).
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what's with all these jumbophones? 4.3 is really the max for me, 4 would be ideal
The Desire Z is gonna be my last HTC I guess. They really need to come up with a new design language. The One X looks horrible, it's oversized, though the specs are near ideal at this point. The One S is the looks OK but has a Pentile screen (pentile = gtfo). The One V actually looks the best out of the bunch, but the specs are crap.
I think i'm gonna go with the Xperia P for this round, it's got about the same performance as the galaxy s2 (mali400mp gpu), great design, screen and camera.
Also what's up with all this memory babble? I have an 8GB card on my DZ and it's still not full. 16GB will be more than enough for most people, and seriously if you fill up 32GB, you have issues (you don't need to install ALL the games or put ALL your music on the phone).
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Lol someone has little hands . The galaxy note works perfect for me. And you can't say much about storage because different people have different needs. Why not put all your music on your phone? What's wrong with that? The iPhone boasts about being a phone and having good music playing abilities. Why shouldn't we use android as our portable music source too?
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Lol someone has little hands . The galaxy note works perfect for me. And you can't say much about storage because different people have different needs. Why not put all your music on your phone? What's wrong with that? The iPhone boasts about being a phone and having good music playing abilities. Why shouldn't we use android as our portable music source too?
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+1 on that. The other poster says anybidy who fills 16gb has issues? I've got a 16gb sd card filled with custom roms and back ups.
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Either one x or s3 ill be getting. Whatcha think?
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Everyone needs to get off the quad-core bandwagon. Yes, QUAD sounds nice but when you do a performance test of the Tegra 3 vs. Snapdragon S4, the S4 blows the Tegra 3 away when it comes to overall performance. I've never been amazed with Nvidia's Tegra series. Nvidia has always been the first to go dual-core or quad-core but they always lacked the gpu processing power. The ulp geforce in the Tegra 3 is embarrassing. Quad-core with a gpu that's not even faster than powerve sgx 543? NO THANKS. You're going to get mad bottlenecking with the Tegra 3. Until Nvidia uses the next generation architecture for their gpus, it won't outperform qualcomm, samsung or omap.
The S4 maybe dual-core but it's a 23nm processor (Tegra 3 is a 40nm) AND it has the new Adeno 225, which is on par with powervr sgx543mp2.
My next phone might be the HTC One S. Ill see if my cousin can hook it up, or a friends upgrade. These phones are awesome only thing I would like is for the one x to be on tmobile or the HTC one s to have a 720p screen and micro sd
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Farewell to my Sky rocket community. Its has been fun I had this bad boy for 9 months the longest I ever hAD A PHONE..LOL. and the longest Ive been part of such a talented community i will miss reading those FLAMES and general rants and the occasional thefts... those who been around know..lol some of the sickest development I ever had the pleasure of tinkering with to make this phone a monster. hats off to the DEVS who are truly ANDROIDS!!
just sold this s o b for $250 and tomorrow its GS III time.. hope to see you guys over there... CHEERS!!
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Farewell to my Sky rocket community. Its has been fun I had this bad boy for 9 months the longest I ever hAD A PHONE..LOL. and the longest Ive been part of such a talented community i will miss reading those FLAMES and general rants and the occasional thefts... those who been around know..lol some of the sickest development I ever had the pleasure of tinkering with to make this phone a monster. hats off to the DEVS who are truly ANDROIDS!!
just sold this s o b for $250 and tomorrow its GS III time.. hope to see you guys over there... CHEERS!!
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lol... hope to see you over there cooking one day
9 months >. > where do people go to piss money to buy new phones so often?
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9 months >. > where do people go to piss money to buy new phones so often?
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Buy/Sell, pay difference
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9 months >. > where do people go to piss money to buy new phones so often?
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craigslist bro just sold my skyrocket for $250 there and Ive had an upgrade Ive been saving on my line for a while so i get the gs 3 for 199.99 when i got my skyrocket i used another line's upgrade back in nov.
its called phone flipping get on board my man..
but we are getting so shafted on the dual core T999... why you no buy international
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but we are getting so shafted on the dual core T999... why you no buy international
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I wouldn't really say shafted, the dual core is faster and more power efficient than the previous S3 CPU and you get 2GB of ram rather than 1GB making multitasking much smoother. I've been hearing the Exynos quad to be a monster at eating battery if not tweaked (disable 2 cores etc...) and there are barely any apps/games that support more than 1 thread for phones aside from benchmarks. Thats pretty much like getting a 6 or 8 core CPU for PC yet the games/programs you use only use 2-4 cores and the only real benefit is if you use 3d programing/rendering/casting/encoding etc... but if you go to phone usage, doubt many utilize the full dual core.
So while the S4 only has 2 cores its still fast, if you have a quad core version of it you get this:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/24/qualcomm-snapdragon-s4-pro-apq8064-benchmark/
And we know getting that type of benchmark wont really be battery friendly will it?
later man. enjoy the gs3.
Bros before phones?
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Is the S3 really such a big step up from the SR?
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Is the S3 really such a big step up from the SR?
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Not really but it's still nice
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Not really but it's still nice
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I messed with one today, been trying to figure out where to get good $$$ for my skyrocket
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Is the S3 really such a big step up from the SR?
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Two generations better CPU, a slightly better GPU, a higher resolution from 480x800 to 720x1280, longer battery life, more efficient LTE with better signal, better build, zero lag shutter camera...yes, its a big leap
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Two generations better CPU, a slightly better GPU, a higher resolution from 480x800 to 720x1280, longer battery life, more efficient LTE with better signal, better build, zero lag shutter camera...yes, its a big leap
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Not big enough for me to take
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What exactly will a better CPU offer, at this moment. I mean that in the sense that I don't see where my experience would improve in any way. Perhaps SwiftKey won't have an occasional hick up but even that's no guarantee. Besides that there's nothing I can do on an S3 that won't operate with the same usability as it would on my S2.
Still, to each his own, for me the only improvement would be resolution which I would unfortunately ruin with the nice feel of a matte anti glare cover. What I want is an S3 with guaranteed software updates going forward. Meaning ill be waiting until the next Nexus.
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Is the S3 really such a big step up from the SR?
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If we take from a hardware standpoint here are the key differences:
CPU:
Snapdragon S3 MSM8260 45nm 1.5GHz (Dual Core)-> Snapdragon S4 MSM8960 28nm 1.5GHz (Dual Core)
(Here we see the die shrink, with die shrinks on new architecture you can see battery improvements, temperature improvements and clock per clock speeds its faster)
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Adreno 220 -> Adreno 225
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1GB Single Channel -> 2GB Dual Channel
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480x800 -> 720x1280
Gorilla Glass 1 -> Gorilla Glass 2
Of course there is a lot of other features/hardware that are "better" such as camera and stock battery etc...
In terms of the phone itself, the SR is not lacking since its still a dual core phones while other phones are still single and working their way to dual core. Quad core are starting to arise but they wont be as efficient for a while since the games/apps we use will not take advantage of all the cores. That being said by the time we do utilize them most likely there will be a newer and better hardware. Also 720p may start becoming the next standard in display as "HD" is making its way onto phones. If you think about hardware difference, think of Samsung Galaxy S2 as 1, Skyrocket as 1.5 and Galaxy S3 as 2. S3 (North America) is still dual core but it is an efficient/fast CPU.
Good example of this is like PC specs:
Q6600 = Quad (65nm)
Q9550 = Quad (45nm)
i5 760 = Quad (45nm)
i5 2500K = Quad (32nm)
i5 3570K = Quad (28nm)
What I mean about that is the standard has started to become quad in the CPU/laptop world but the big difference is the efficiency(power consumption), speed (clock per clock) and maybe other supported hardware features.
So is it a big step up?.... Yes and no, yes because hardwarewise it is better but the SR isnt lacking to the point where ICS/JB lags on it or any other apps/games atm. Of course if you have insane graphical games maybe it will slug the SR in terms of performance but thats entirely on what you use it for. Ask the same question next year and you'll probably hear the same, the S3 is not lacking but xxx (S4 or whatever is "faster"). Technology will always get better its just whether you want to pay to get the latest and greatest or not.
I buy my gear based on my use. You wont see me buying computers that are 6-8 cores, Quad SLI/CFX video cards or whatever because I don't need them lol. My hardware is fully capable of playing the current games so thats what I usually upgrade for, my uses.
If you compare the SR to the S3 of course you will see a good difference but if you only use the phone for facebook, instagram, twitter, calling, texting, whatever, the SR can do those. Now if it can't do those and its slow and always dying on you and programs aren't working and super super sluggish then yeah those are the reasons for the upgrade.
Now if we go to the development side yes, phones like Galaxy Nexus, Galaxy S2 (original) and Galaxy S3 will have big support as most people get them when they first come out so if you want to look for it in that view they have more popularity. Some people want to get the phones that everyones getting while others don't want the "same exact" one but on a similar page.
Way to go and spoon feed insane amount of info lol... Good stuff
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but we are getting so shafted on the dual core T999... why you no buy international
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Two generations better CPU, a slightly better GPU, a higher resolution from 480x800 to 720x1280, longer battery life, more efficient LTE with better signal, better build, zero lag shutter camera...yes, its a big leap
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couldnt have said it better ..
I keep reading bashing of Tegra 3 when compared to other newer CPU/GPU's (like the OMAP4470 or Exynos 5250), like how it's single-channel memory and how it's made to look more powerful than it actually is through "THD" apps and whatnot...does any of that hold true in day-to-day performance of a Nexus 7, though?
I mean, I can't say I find my Galaxy Nexus running Jelly Bean sluggish in the slightest, even underclocked, but in considering getting a Nexus 7, I wouldn't want it to only barely do high-end gaming and whatnot, or get forgotten when the Nexus 10 arrives. As much as I'd like the upcoming Nexus 10, it's literally double the price...
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I keep reading bashing of Tegra 3 when compared to other newer CPU/GPU's (like the OMAP4470 or Exynos 5250), like how it's single-channel memory and how it's made to look more powerful than it actually is through "THD" apps and whatnot...does any of that hold true in day-to-day performance of a Nexus 7, though?
I mean, I can't say I find my Galaxy Nexus running Jelly Bean sluggish in the slightest, even underclocked, but in considering getting a Nexus 7, I wouldn't want it to only barely do high-end gaming and whatnot, or get forgotten when the Nexus 10 arrives. As much as I'd like the upcoming Nexus 10, it's literally double the price...
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Nexus 7 32gb 3g. A quad core processor is 4 physical cores period. iPad users and tablet reviewers like to nitpick. Do you see anything else with jelly bean at that price? HD screen? No?
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Nexus 7 32gb 3g. A quad core processor is 4 physical cores period. iPad users and tablet reviewers like to nitpick. Do you see anything else with jelly bean at that price? HD screen? No?
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I don't see what it being quad-core has to do with anything when there's dual-cores out better - the plain number of cores doesn't mean much. And no, nothing with Jelly Bean at that price as far as I know.
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I don't see what it being quad-core has to do with anything when there's dual-cores out better - the plain number of cores doesn't mean much. And no, nothing with Jelly Bean at that price as far as I know.
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Software can only get better,and a kindle fire/ipad mini can't get two more cores. You're sure a nexus will get updates,and with that kind of ram it won't lag. The processor being less capable than other NEWER processors doesn't make it a bad processor. It is still very,very capable. It's a sweet deal
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Hi, I have been using the GS4 i9500 so called Octocore for 2-3 days. I had and still have the GS3 T-Mobile US variant for 6 months and love it. So once I bought the GS4 I thought this is going to be so much faster that comparing the dual core to 8 core I was thinking it was going to be like big difference. But now thatbim using it side by side I see no difference in anything. I think Samsung became the Apple.
Please dont fight, its just interesting how you guys feel?
I know we spent $750 to $850 on this, but dont you think this is not innovation?
Every time a company gets successful it becomes crap.
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You have a point here. Maybe the speeds aren't very visible , the S4 comes with all those fancy addons. And believe me I would buy the S4 and wouldn't regret. This is just my opinion
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Well the S3 is still a good phone. Most people upgrade every 2-3 years, not every year.
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Take the bloat off of it then test.. bloatware is the biggest problem on every phone.
My gs3 is running super smooth for 3 days on one charge thanks to boeffla kernel and no bloat.
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Im not buying it just for the speed though
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Take the bloat off of it then test.. bloatware is the biggest problem on every phone.
My gs3 is running super smooth for 3 days on one charge thanks to boeffla kernel and no bloat.
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Bloat isn't causing the lag. It's touchwiz. Jesus I've heard this nonsense so many times.
Lag is the worst issue to deal with and it's getting publicity. I'm sure Samsung will fast track an update.
Every new phone has issues.
Sense 3 use to cause lag and htc finally did something about it. I'm sure Samsung will be quicker about it.
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MaKTaiL said:
Oh god, not this thread again.....
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Why we cant compare? If we cant then what is the point of this place? We are just discussing.
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How can a 8core phone feel the same as the 2core? Then we just need 1 big core like 3 gigahertz.
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GTRagnarok said:
Well the S3 is still a good phone. Most people upgrade every 2-3 years, not every year.
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Hehe apparently I am not like most people
Now I use my galaxy note ii LTE as my work mobile (I work as a welder), when I come home I switch SIM to my galaxy s4. Before I got the s4, I used my s3 as my work phone. Now I use the s3 as my primary backup phone
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samomamo said:
How can a 8core phone feel the same as the 2core? Then we just need 1 big core like 3 gigahertz.
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I9500 version doesn't have 8 Cores working simultaneously.
Read the below link:
http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-to-boost-performance-of-galaxy-s4-202912/
The Snapdragon is a quad-core while the Octa has eight cores. But here is the thing, the Octa is used in such a way that only four cores are used at any time. The chip has four low power Cortex A7 cores and four Cortex A15 cores. The A15 core is vastly superior in terms of performance, compared to the A7, but the A7 is great for battery life. So the Exynos Octa uses the A7 cores by default and then when things get busy the A15 cores are activated while the A7 cores are shut down. This means that the Exynos Octa only uses a maximum of four cores at once, making it the same as a quad-core processor but with some clever power saving technology.
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samomamo said:
Hi, I have been using the GS4 i9500 so called Octocore for 2-3 days. I had and still have the GS3 T-Mobile US variant for 6 months and love it. So once I bought the GS4 I thought this is going to be so much faster that comparing the dual core to 8 core I was thinking it was going to be like big difference. But now thatbim using it side by side I see no difference in anything. I think Samsung became the Apple.
Please dont fight, its just interesting how you guys feel?
I know we spent $750 to $850 on this, but dont you think this is not innovation?
Every time a company gets successful it becomes crap.
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If you don't like it sell it and move on. There are those of us that are very happy to have the S4 in hand right now. The 1080p, bigger battery, better processor, better GPU, slimmer profile, reduced weight, bigger screen, pixel density, 8 cores (yes it's only a combo of 4 cores now, but when linaro is updated soon it will be all 8). I traded my Note 2 for this and couldn't be happier.
samomamo said:
Hi, I have been using the GS4 i9500 so called Octocore for 2-3 days. I had and still have the GS3 T-Mobile US variant for 6 months and love it. So once I bought the GS4 I thought this is going to be so much faster that comparing the dual core to 8 core I was thinking it was going to be like big difference. But now thatbim using it side by side I see no difference in anything. I think Samsung became the Apple.
Please dont fight, its just interesting how you guys feel?
I know we spent $750 to $850 on this, but dont you think this is not innovation?
Every time a company gets successful it becomes crap.
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Wasn't expecting this stupid thread for an experienced guy. Why the hell did you bought it then? People who buy any phone without doing proper research deserves to be ditched. Sorry for being too harsh, just give this phone some time, a few days and you will start loving it. It is multiple steps ahead of gs3. Many people have already quoted that this phone isn't slow, its just 4.2 is not fully optimized with GS4.
samomamo said:
How can a 8core phone feel the same as the 2core? Then we just need 1 big core like 3 gigahertz.
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Its a 4+4 and not a 8 core cpu.
shox22 said:
Its a 4+4 and not a 8 core cpu.
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All 8 cores can be running at a same time with an updated kernel (3.8 Linux), but not available now.
essentially with the 1080p upgrade, it did need all the processing power upgrades. as far as everything else goes, opening apps and stuff like that depends more on the internal memory speeds, like having a solid state disk on your computer at home... so yea the gs3 was not slow.
when you get into gaming and other things like that, the gs4 was a huge upgrade. i personally am looking forward to the huge battery. it will compare to the gs3 (maybe a small boost) as far as the screen time goes but it'll be easily a 25% boost over the gs3 for standby times
also, technology can only go so fast. imo, it's part of moore's law really. samsung took the more common way around this, by adding more cores. also they took the route of changing the gpu type not just upgrading the same gpu.
the only thing that was not an upgrade, and its funny that everyone complains about it, is the internal memory size.
in a nutshell.. if you upgrade your phone every year, you wont get a huge upgrade in quality. and if you did, something was wrong with the design of the older phone.
im coming from a droid 3 and its going to be a MASSIVE upgrade for me. more than 4 times as powerful, with easily twice the amount of features if not more. almost twice the battery size, 1" larger screen.... 1080p instead of 540p lol
vinandy said:
I9500 version doesn't have 8 Cores working simultaneously.
Read the below link:
http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-to-boost-performance-of-galaxy-s4-202912/
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The Exynos 5 Octa CPU is not supposed to use 8 cores at the same time. It's created to use either the 4x A7 cores or the 4x A15 cores in the CPU. So yeah, that's how it's supposed to work
Oh also, this is to the op. I wouldn't call the Galaxy S IV for a Galaxy S III+. If you only looks at the design, then maybe yeah, but if you look on the new hardware, there are alot of new things in the Galaxy S IV that make it more than just a little upgrade from the Galaxy S III.
i love the gaming In GS4 rather than the Qualcomm One... 60Fps Awesome!
whatmore do you want from a phone..
Just Lock this Thread MOD... Freedom of speech is still limited on xda
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The S3 is still a very capable phone and still competes today with all other new flagship phones.