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Will the Nexus S 4G Be Too Little, Too Late?

I'm a Sprint customer up for an upgrade soon. I definitely want to switch out this pitiful Palm Pixi for an Android device. The developer community for Android is just so much more motivated and exciting than the webOS community.
As everyone knows, there are two awesome Android devices coming to Sprint in the next few months. The Nexus S 4G and the HTC EVO 3D. I originally had my heart set on the Nexus S, but then I fell in love with the awesome specs of the EVO 3D.
My main question is, I know that there will still be developers working on the Nexus S in a year, but will I regret getting it over the EVO 3D, being that it has lower specs? Do you think the Nexus S is a better choice?

JewishMatt said:
I'm a Sprint customer up for an upgrade soon. I definitely want to switch out this pitiful Palm Pixi for an Android device. The developer community for Android is just so much more motivated and exciting than the webOS community.
As everyone knows, there are two awesome Android devices coming to Sprint in the next few months. The Nexus S 4G and the HTC EVO 3D. I originally had my heart set on the Nexus S, but then I fell in love with the awesome specs of the EVO 3D.
My main question is, I know that there will still be developers working on the Nexus S in a year, but will I regret getting it over the EVO 3D, being that it has lower specs? Do you think the Nexus S is a better choice?
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Hardware wise the Evo 3d is definitely better. I don't think the NS 4g is too late and my reason behind that is because if Google continues rolling out major updates for the NS long before other devices get them then the NS will still remain current regardless of lack of dual core. Software can definitely make an old device feel new.
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JewishMatt said:
I'm a Sprint customer up for an upgrade soon. I definitely want to switch out this pitiful Palm Pixi for an Android device. The developer community for Android is just so much more motivated and exciting than the webOS community.
As everyone knows, there are two awesome Android devices coming to Sprint in the next few months. The Nexus S 4G and the HTC EVO 3D. I originally had my heart set on the Nexus S, but then I fell in love with the awesome specs of the EVO 3D.
My main question is, I know that there will still be developers working on the Nexus S in a year, but will I regret getting it over the EVO 3D, being that it has lower specs? Do you think the Nexus S is a better choice?
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As for the hardware, look at the Atrix...rubbish. EVO 3D should be a hell of a lot better than that though. I've been wanting to pull the trigger on a G2x but I keep holding off because I have a feeling there are going to be some killer uses of the NFC technology built into the Nexus S. If I'm wrong, I've still "stuck" myself with a truly fantastic device. As for getting updates early, it's not all it's chalked up to be so far with the NS. The one I have was stuck on 2.3.1 and I had to manually upgrade. As far as CM7 goes, the version built for the NS pales in comparison to the version I was running on my G2. Too many bugs and usability problems even with the "stable" release.

ScooterG said:
As for the hardware, look at the Atrix...rubbish. EVO 3D should be a hell of a lot better than that though. I've been wanting to pull the trigger on a G2x but I keep holding off because I have a feeling there are going to be some killer uses of the NFC technology built into the Nexus S. If I'm wrong, I've still "stuck" myself with a truly fantastic device. As for getting updates early, it's not all it's chalked up to be so far with the NS. The one I have was stuck on 2.3.1 and I had to manually upgrade. As far as CM7 goes, the version built for the NS pales in comparison to the version I was running on my G2. Too many bugs and usability problems even with the "stable" release.
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So do you think the EVO 3D would be better, based on the next-gen hardware?

Oh it will clearly have better hardware. But for what? There is nothing out there that taxes the Nexus S at this point. It is fast enough.
If you want the 3d or the bigger screen, wait. But don't wait for better performance, there is no point unless you just like running benchmarks all day.
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I'm getting the Nexus S because I've always wanted a dev phone. I'm sitting on 3 full upgrades, so I'll get the Evo 3D this summer as well.

JewishMatt said:
So do you think the EVO 3D would be better, based on the next-gen hardware?
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Who knows, the Evo 3d might be the better phone. It all depends on what your looking for. What exactly do you want in a phone? Most likely the Evo 3d will have more developers than the NS, but the NS software will always be officially up to date and run more smoothly since the software was built specifically for this device. I think since more dual core, etc phones are coming out GOOGLE will continue to roll out major updates for the NS to prove that software plays a major part in smartphones. I personally don't see why we need a dual core phone if our phone is already fast, but that's just me.
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JewishMatt said:
So do you think the EVO 3D would be better, based on the next-gen hardware?
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spec wise yes but the design is crap IMO. ill go with the nexus s anyday.

WiMax sucks imho
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csmall said:
WiMax sucks imho
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way to troll t-mobile boy! thanks for playing!

I hate 3d and HTC, it is all BS just get a Nexus S, the whole idea that the Qualcom dual core is faster than Tegra 2 is false as well. They boasted that their 1.5ghz dual core processor can run circles around a Tegra 2 clocked at 1ghz. Well... OBVIOUSLY. Plus this is the same Evo just with 3d and a slightly faster processor, HTC is bringing fragmentation to a new level, they have software fragmentation within software fragmentation. A great majority of all of HTC's devices will not receive Sense 3.0. Nexus S wins by the software route, and maybe even the hardware one too, HTC cameras never perform as advertised and their screens are crap a lot of the time. Nexus S 4G may be late, but not too late. I would say it's late when you see a Tegra 2 device on Sprint like the Galaxy S2, it runs circles around the Evo 3D for sure, just Google some benchmarks.
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fixxxer2008 said:
way to troll t-mobile boy! thanks for playing!
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It's my view on the technology this phone will use. I don't see what T-Mobile has to do with it and I'm a man.
This phone will use WiMax, if you're in an area that has it, maybe it will make you happy. My experiences with the Evo and WiMax in NY were negative.
Other than that it's a Nexus S on a CDMA network that will let Sprint customers enjoy the pure Google Android experience without switching carriers. That's great. Choice is great.
I personally wouldn't let WiMax factor into my decision if I was on another carrier looking at sprint.
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csmall said:
WiMax sucks imho
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Engineer something better....
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BrianDigital said:
Engineer something better....
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WiMax does suck, LTE IS TEH FUTURE
Lol... xD in all honesty WiMax might make the Evo 3d heavier, and the 3d might have already made it heavy to begin with, who knows I could be wrong.
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the evo3d isnt a big enough advancement for me to ditch my evo for it. if i cant get my hw003 replaced with a 004, ill be buying the nexus s, at retail. no contracts for this guy...or maybe ill get it on a contract...
if the nexus comes SOON, ill jump on it, mostly for the dev aspect and the gpu. if its not coming until first or second week in may, ill wait to handle an evo3d. the evo 3d is physically ugly though, imo and form factor means a lot to me.
i prefer htc to samsung but i may be playing with a ns4g very soon. Now if only I knew WHEN it was coming...cause no public release dates is straight up oscar mayer

For me, the 'getting updates first' perk of the Nexus S is more important than dual-core or 3d. Plus, I'm just sick of the Hero and want a new phone ASAP.

Smokexz said:
I hate 3d and HTC, it is all BS just get a Nexus S, the whole idea that the Qualcom dual core is faster than Tegra 2 is false as well. They boasted that their 1.5ghz dual core processor can run circles around a Tegra 2 clocked at 1ghz. Well... OBVIOUSLY. Plus this is the same Evo just with 3d and a slightly faster processor, HTC is bringing fragmentation to a new level, they have software fragmentation within software fragmentation. A great majority of all of HTC's devices will not receive Sense 3.0. Nexus S wins by the software route, and maybe even the hardware one too, HTC cameras never perform as advertised and their screens are crap a lot of the time. Nexus S 4G may be late, but not too late. I would say it's late when you see a Tegra 2 device on Sprint like the Galaxy S2, it runs circles around the Evo 3D for sure, just Google some benchmarks.
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Obviously your a supporter of the tegra 2, you have a xoom. So of course your going to have a biased opinion. You have little knowledge but a whole lot of hate. To the OP, don't listen to this guy, he seriously is not a good source and just wants to troll. That said these phones aren't even out yet so how can such strong opinions (ok mainly thee evo 3d) be postulated?
I'M IN SPAAAACCCEEEE! I'M IN SPACE! I'M IN SPACE!

Nexus-S is a bad ass device, who cares about dual core right now, I would wait until "Ice cream" update is out, for true dual core support, and then get the newest Android phone out at that time, which will probably be a dual core Nexus-3.0 that will be first phone with "Ice Cream" 3.1.
So get the Nexus-S now and have fun. And upgrade to the true dual core phone Nexus-3.0, when it comes out if you want.

Dual.core sounds tempting but im not a game player on my.phone. So for some the nexus s looks to be a great upgrade.
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A_Guy71 said:
For me, the 'getting updates first' perk of the Nexus S is more important than dual-core or 3d. Plus, I'm just sick of the Hero and want a new phone ASAP.
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You poor soul I had to drop the hero as soon as the evo came out. I swore sometimes having that little guy overclocked actuallt performed worse
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Anyone else find it curios LG release two gb phones...

LG releases two new gb phones of the "optimus" line.
http://tinyurl.com/65lt3sd
What bothers me here is how they do something like this for some ghetto phones but didn't do this for a flagship phone? or instead of devoting putting more manpower towards the issues with our phone we put people to work putting 2 new gb devices out. Feels like the whole Samsung debacle all over again.
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You answered your own question. The company makes money selling new phones. We have already purchased our phones. Samsung did it, most other manufacturers do it, it's just how they roll. If they can make money pushing a new product before they update current devices they will put current on the back burner. Money money money.
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Yea your right and I know it....doesn't make me feel any better about it. Pisses me off actually. Samsung damaged their rep badly...you would think LG wouldn't make the same mistake. If they took care of us we would be repeat customers and would use word of mouth to spread LG glory. Instead the reverse will happen. Its bad business.
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They damaged their rep with heavy users, but the majority of people don't give a **** about upgrades and all that. I completely agree with you, it sucks. But from a manufacturer standpoint, the major players are doing very well. I mean look at the success of the SGSII and the hype for the Hercules. Technology is moving so fast and new products out all the time for people to really mean it when they say #neveragain to Samsung.
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We do exist. I meant it. Samsung never again. If LG doesn't get this right they will be on that list as well and HTC will be the maker of choice again. Hopefully the rumors aren't true and the new nexus doesn't belong to Sammy I will cry.
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Right on, stick to your guns. Hopefully more people do.
I actually read that LG is getting the new Nexus. Little bit of irony there... Obviously not confirmed, but strongly hinted.
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Those phones are fugly anyway, a crackberry clone
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TJBunch1228 said:
Right on, stick to your guns. Hopefully more people do.
I actually read that LG is getting the new Nexus. Little bit of irony there... Obviously not confirmed, but strongly hinted.
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i read that not only LG, the major 4 brands are getting the New nexus(HTC, Sammy, LG and Moto).
"Google Plus:there will be 4 Nexus phones.
the HTC one will have the exclusive button."

jdaclutch said:
i read that not only LG, the major 4 brands are getting the New nexus(HTC, Sammy, LG and Moto).
"Google Plus:there will be 4 Nexus phones.
the HTC one will have the exclusive button."
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Well HTC had the Nexus One
Samsung had the Nexus S
Motorola had the Xoom (which, to my understanding, the Nexus of Tablets?)
I've heard both LG and Samsung. I've heard more about the Samsung Nexus Prime, being based off the SGS2.
Samsung always has a Nexus phone based on their previous model. Why can't the Nexus phone BE the next big model like the Nexus One was? Nexus Phones should be the flagship of Android devices that all other phones should model after.... why has this gone?

player911 said:
Well HTC had the Nexus One
Samsung had the Nexus S
Motorola had the Xoom (which, to my understanding, the Nexus of Tablets?)
I've heard both LG and Samsung. I've heard more about the Samsung Nexus Prime, being based off the SGS2.
Samsung always has a Nexus phone based on their previous model. Why can't the Nexus phone BE the next big model like the Nexus One was? Nexus Phones should be the flagship of Android devices that all other phones should model after.... why has this gone?
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Because google pushed the envelope with the first nexus, now where technology is at, it is hard to do. Every month we here of something better.
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I do tend to agree. The nexus s was not a major step forward in tech when it dropped. However if the timed the new nexus right they could make it a big deal. Give it things we want combined into one phone. Quad bands,radio, samoled, if timed right triple core,10x cam front and rear flash,HD front and rear record and playbaçk, I mean the list goes on and on and peoples desires vary but who ever makes it needs to listen to the consumer and do it right.
Success is based off consumer purchases and satisfactory after purchase. Not how much your beta tester goes ooooh its purdy.
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vapor311 said:
Quad bands,radio, samoled, if timed right triple core,10x cam front and rear flash,HD front and rear record and playbaçk,
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...and a battery that lasts about two hours.

I've also seen the O2x, our G2x's brother, have numerous updates. We haven't had one, wtf LG?

BarryH_GEG said:
...and a battery that lasts about two hours.
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Lol yes a real battery life would be a good thing.
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Nice entry level phones get Gingerbread and we left out high and dry.
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vapor311 said:
I do tend to agree. The nexus s was not a major step forward in tech when it dropped. However if the timed the new nexus right they could make it a big deal. Give it things we want combined into one phone. Quad bands,radio, samoled, if timed right triple core,10x cam front and rear flash,HD front and rear record and playbaçk, I mean the list goes on and on and peoples desires vary but who ever makes it needs to listen to the consumer and do it right.
Success is based off consumer purchases and satisfactory after purchase. Not how much your beta tester goes ooooh its purdy.
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What you are saying is not "listen to the consumer/do it right."
I can understand Quad 3G bands. But just ask yourself: triple core? REALLY? What apps you need triple core?
I assume 10x you mean 10x digital zoom. REALLY? How many of you ACTUALLY used zoom when taking pictures?
HD front camera? REALLY? You can tell the differences of a downsized (to 800x480 or qHD) 1080i/p video?
Lets get real here.

Got good news every one I just got off the phone with tmobile and lg tech support managers both have confirmed gb will be here and on all g2x (p-999) devices before july 28th this year and the phone had not been recalled
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richteralan said:
What you are saying is not "listen to the consumer/do it right."
I can understand Quad 3G bands. But just ask yourself: triple core? REALLY? What apps you need triple core?
I assume 10x you mean 10x digital zoom. REALLY? How many of you ACTUALLY used zoom when taking pictures?
HD front camera? REALLY? You can tell the differences of a downsized (to 800x480 or qHD) 1080i/p video?
Lets get real here.
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Realistically I would love for the next generation Nexus phone to at least have 1ghz-1.2ghz dual core processor, Super Amoled Plus screen or SLCD with higher resolution than the traditional 480x800, 1080p video recording, 1.3 front facing camera, 8 megapixel camera, NFC chip, 5 inch screen without any capacitive or hardware buttons, 1800 mah battery and posibly dual stereo speakers. I think that would definitely be more than good enough and is more realistic to build. We honestly do not need anything bigger than dual core for these phones. 1ghz single core still gets the job done without lag as long as the software is built well.
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ldsurftech said:
Got good news every one I just got off the phone with tmobile and lg tech support managers both have confirmed gb will be here and on all g2x (p-999) devices before july 28th this year and the phone had not been recalled
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First it was July 17th, now it's July 28th. Not trying to start a fight, just stating that we should wait for official public confirmation.

So I wonder will this update be our first and last I would think we have more than enough power to run Ice cream sandwich but the way LG is procrastinating idk.
I love this phone but I think next will iether be somthing from htc or nexus. This my first lg phone they gona have to really impress me to buy another phone from them
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What should be my next phone?

Ok, well...I have actually had a pretty darn good expierience with my g2x...I just don't keep phones for very long. I have an upgrade available on t-mobile and am wanting to hear from you guys what you think I should get.
My wife just got the Sensation 4g, and she loves it....I don't think I like it that much....especially with a stock rom on it.
Was thinking about the SG II, but not too sure what is coming out in the near future. I know SG II will be getting ICS (as will the sensation)...
Let me know what you think.

Galaxy nexus is the obvious answer for a phone that will be coming out, soonish. Just look it up and watch youtube videos that'll pretty much some it up for you.
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Just wait till the next big waves of phones come. Probably around Feb or so. Wait for the next generation S4 processors and Exynos.

None of the current phones which don't have ICS installed when you buy one. I also think you should wait until the next "crop" of phones which will have ICS and quad-core processors, more memory, better screens, etc. Also, check out the Android update history of the company, LG is horrible.

I agree with core. Wait till phones have ICS installed and new quad core processors. ICS is the software that will really make dual or quad cores shine due to its capability of multi-threading. Till then just make due. As far as i have seen android usually has a habit of making decent software upgrades every other official release its seems. Like we had donut then éclair but wasn't till froyo came out android was actually looking good. IMHO
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I think you should get the GS II HD LET though

What are you guys talking about the nexus is out and it has pics 4.0 I jut got one today it came out today
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I'd say wait for next Gen of phones also. You ask me there's nothing very impressive about this huge galaxy nexus they try to pass off as a phone. If it didn't come out with ics and the nexus name no one would even care. And since a multitude of phones will be upgraded to ics its really not the big deal its hyped up to be.
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Ditto on the bandwagon to wait for the next generation. After all the releases the g2x can hold its own. Don't really need a new phone until the following :
1. ICS ROM from CM9 team and manufacturer
2. Easy to root/ develop on
3. Multicore processing
I am very patient. Hell, I bought this g2x on impulse without knowing about xda forum. Never again I paid retail for my phone. Just works out waiting how xda develops a new phone. Better that way. I am very disappointed with amaze 4g and sgs2 from xda forum perspective.
I am a big fan of cm7 and prefer a phone that can run that over stock ROM.
Still, better of waiting. By then prices plunge and you can get great phone at a bargain.

Intel_x said:
What are you guys talking about the nexus is out and it has pics 4.0 I jut got one today it came out today
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Considering op is talking about an upgrade option being available with tmobile, I'm sure he is only looking at subsidized plans. The nexus is not subbed so it will cost him 700 up front. So if your talking about saving subsidized phone you might see much of an upgrade when switching to any of the high end phones being offered right now. You will get extra ram a better screen and better battery but performance will be about on par with your g2x. I would say wait. I don't believe there will be any quad core phones in the next six months but the longer you wait the better the chance your phone might get an official update to jellybean and its possible a quad might appear. It might be buggy cause it's first gen but it's something I guess
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Supposedly quad core could be out as early as April, might be worth the wait.
I hope there's another G2X'ish phone that is powerful as hell but loses value quick so I can pick it up late in the year for cheap. Watched this G2X of mine lose half its value in 8 months and don't want that to happen again

xAshxMoneyx said:
Supposedly quad core could be out as early as April, might be worth the wait.
I hope there's another G2X'ish phone that is powerful as hell but loses value quick so I can pick it up late in the year for cheap. Watched this G2X of mine lose half its value in 8 months and don't want that to happen again
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Yeah but where is it going to be released to is the question. Samsung phones are usually released 6 months in advanced internationally. Most updated roms are released internationally before it hits these shores. I doubt we will get the first quad core.

Intel_x said:
What are you guys talking about the nexus is out and it has pics 4.0 I jut got one today it came out today
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What? It is already out. Damn

OP, there is nothing out on T-mobile that's worth using an upgrade on right now. Your best bet is to just wait for the either the Galaxy Nexus to launch on TMobile or wait for the quad core phones (I would not recommend buying a tegra 3 powered phone either). But no need to waste an upgrade right now.

maoyoushisi said:
I think you should get the GS II HD LET though
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What phone is this?
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mysterioustko said:
OP, there is nothing out on T-mobile that's worth using an upgrade on right now. Your best bet is to just wait for the either the Galaxy Nexus to launch on TMobile or wait for the quad core phones (I would not recommend buying a tegra 3 powered phone either). But no need to waste an upgrade right now.
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I think that this is some good advise...even though im bored with the g2x...
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mysterioustko said:
OP, there is nothing out on T-mobile that's worth using an upgrade on right now. Your best bet is to just wait for the either the Galaxy Nexus to launch on TMobile or wait for the quad core phones (I would not recommend buying a tegra 3 powered phone either). But no need to waste an upgrade right now.
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I agree with mysterioustko, don't waste lots of money losing money on your G2X and buying something now because you're disatisfied with what you have. Wait until ICS is available for the G2X and evaluate the phone's desirability again. If you're still disatisfied, wait until the new crop of phones are selling with ICS and research the manufacturer's update history and never buy an NVIDIA (Tegra) chipped phone, get one which has chips that have totally open sourced technical information for drivers, etc., such as the Texas Instrument chips in the new Google Nexus phone. When the new crop of phones are first sold, wait a few months until the hype abates and real user and developer experiences/evaluations are available and read them thoroughly. As well, research what independent developers are supporting with alternative kernels and ROMs.

I upgraded to the gs2 from the g2x and couldn't be happier.
Very fast and snappy.... faster stock than my cm7 overclocked g2x was...it has a 1.5 processor stock...g2x was max overclocked at 1.5
Huge screen that is very easy to type on
It has already seen an update just a month after being out...we just got an update to 2.3.6 with free wifi calling that doesn't count against your minutes
Its the first phone to be activated to use dual core gps !!!! Best gps on ANY phone out. uses GPS *AND* GLONASS satellites to equal 51 satellites instead of 27
Dual Core GPS explained
once again the tmobile gs2 is the FIRST AND ONLY phone right now to have this feature activated. Its only possible for snapdragon s3 processor phones
It has full cm7 and cm9 support...slayher and cyanogen himself are using the tmo gs2
Faux and whitehawx ( if you are a g2x user then you know these people) are developing roms and kernels for the g2x
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clninja said:
I upgraded to the gs2 from the g2x and couldn't be happier.
Very fast and snappy.... faster stock than my cm7 overclocked g2x was...it has a 1.5 processor stock...g2x was max overclocked at 1.5
Huge screen that is very easy to type on
It has already seen an update just a month after being out...we just got an update to 2.3.6 with free wifi calling that doesn't count against your minutes
Its the first phone to be activated to use dual core gps !!!! Best gps on ANY phone out.
http://androidandme.com/2011/12/new...ables-dual-core-location-on-snapdragon-phones
once again the tmobile gs2 is the FIRST AND ONLY phone right now to have this feature activated. Its only possible for snapdragon s3 processor phones
It has full cm7 and cm9 support...slayher and cyanogen himself are using the tmo gs2
Faux and whitehawx ( if you are a g2x user then you know these people) are developing roms and kernels for the g2x
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Newer phones almost always have updated/upgraded features/capabilities but beware of phone fever which is what the first buyers of the G2X suffered from because that was the first dual-core phone on the market and we all know what happened to it.

xAshxMoneyx said:
Supposedly quad core could be out as early as April, might be worth the wait.
I hope there's another G2X'ish phone that is powerful as hell but loses value quick so I can pick it up late in the year for cheap. Watched this G2X of mine lose half its value in 8 months and don't want that to happen again
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Amen brother I got my g2x in April now their pretty much free wait is my suggestions
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LG X3

So who's going to try this new LG X3 phone. http://www.droidforums.net/forum/dr...s-news+(DroidForums.net+News+::+Android+News)

remember what happened to the first tegra2 dual core phone? Why would you want their first quad after that? Besides quad core means more battery consumption and more ****ty lg and nvidia coding.
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Might as well buy a Nexus if you have the money for this one.

kwes1020 said:
remember what happened to the first tegra2 dual core phone? Why would you want their first quad after that? Besides quad core means more battery consumption and more ****ty lg and nvidia coding.
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No, No it can only get better they promised they have learned from their multitude of mistakes and will put out a top quality product this time.

dligon said:
No, No it can only get better they promised they have learned from their multitude of mistakes and will put out a top quality product this time.
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Lol, no they won't...

They will take your money and then tell you they will have a update to fix the bugs in a few months and you will never see it.
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Not a chance, I'm only buying HTC, (after I know it's unlockable 100%) or a nexus line.
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I am since I got the prime. First tablet first phone! No actually waiting on the sg3. Prime is good but never lg again
Nvidia always!

mt3g said:
Not a chance, I'm only buying HTC, (after I know it's unlockable 100%) or a nexus line.
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See, I'm not too upset with LG. Admittedly, the G2x isn't the best phone. I won't be the fanboy to indefinitely and baselessly defend LG, NVidia, or their products. But I think a lot of the bad rep the the three have gotten is a little picky. My phone is blazing fast, even faster than my old Sensation, has absolutely superior build quality, screen is great, dev community is pretty decent, etc. I understand people dislike NVidia and LG for their support and that's totally understandable. I've been a huge fan of my G2x; I've had ZERO issues since I bought it. No screen bleed, nothing.
You can count me in on this X3. I own a number of LG products. Hell, I even swapped my flat screen when a newer model came out. LG always improves upon their products, no matter how ****ty the first model. I've been more than content with my G2x and I'll trust LG on their next device. If the dev community suffers because of their negligence, however, it'll be on to the GN.

Ehhh. No im not going to get a device which will be EOL'd in less than a year. The G2X hasnt been around for a year since the release and they eold it before the samsung viberant if im correct. Im buying samsung or htc next.
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ericalanMICHAEL said:
See, I'm not too upset with LG. Admittedly, the G2x isn't the best phone. I won't be the fanboy to indefinitely and baselessly defend LG, NVidia, or their products. But I think a lot of the bad rep the the three have gotten is a little picky. My phone is blazing fast, even faster than my old Sensation, has absolutely superior build quality, screen is great, dev community is pretty decent, etc. I understand people dislike NVidia and LG for their support and that's totally understandable. I've been a huge fan of my G2x; I've had ZERO issues since I bought it. No screen bleed, nothing.
You can count me in on this X3. I own a number of LG products. Hell, I even swapped my flat screen when a newer model came out. LG always improves upon their products, no matter how ****ty the first model. I've been more than content with my G2x and I'll trust LG on their next device. If the dev community suffers because of their negligence, however, it'll be on to the GN.
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I just can't believe how easy it was for them to give us a poop update to 2.3 instead of just revamping and fixing the little issues that 2.2 had (mainly data issues for me) I didn't have many issues either and my phone is incredibely dast, faster then my friends Amaze 4G, not overclocked. I want to root his phone and put AOSP on it, he isn't down lol. I just like the metal feel of most HTC phones, and the fact that they put out minor patches and seem to care about their phones that they put out. The G2X needs multiple little patches that has been ignored, LG states over and over that our phone 2X series line will be updated, I want stability over all not major upgrades. the whole time they working (5-7 months on ICS they could put out little patches for 2.3.... #HUGERANT lol

Laughing My Arse Off! They said they learned from their mistakes!
I learned from my mistake!
NVIDIA NEVER AGAIN!

I wouldn't buy an lg gun to shoot myself with. Jk this might be worth a try as a second phone.
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Well good thing is that it will be shipped with ICS (fingers crossed) and who doesnt want quadcore but i might be clocked at 1.2 when it comes out you know nvidia.

zoppp said:
Ehhh. No im not going to get a device which will be EOL'd in less than a year. The G2X hasnt been around for a year since the release and they eold it before the samsung viberant if im correct. Im buying samsung or htc next.
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I feel the same, I was on the fence on the G2X, I had zero consumer confidence in LG at that time, I was also pressured when the phone was released as my wife was waiting for my MT3GS, I really wanted to wait for the sensation, waiting now for the next good HTC phone to release or possible Nexus if it comes to Tmo

dligon said:
Well good thing is that it will be shipped with ICS (fingers crossed) and who doesnt want quadcore but i might be clocked at 1.2 when it comes out you know nvidia.
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What's wrong with a quad core clocked @ 1.2GHz? You do realize how fast that is, right?

So the problems double.

XD
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No, No it can only get better they promised they have learned from their multitude of mistakes and will put out a top quality product this time.
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Why believe them? They would do more for their crappy reputation if they just updated their existing dual core phones now to ICS. The LG X3 is just another scam. Promises, promises, promises, all broken. No more confidence in LG which sucks big time. BTW, Americans and Canadians gave their lives to prevent the Communists from taking over South Korea so that capitalism flourishes in S. Korea so that companies such as LG can exist. LG is a despicable company dishonouring the sacrifices of Americans and Canadians and the virtually free trade which S. Korea enjoys accessing the North American market which it doesn't appreciate. I have an uncle who volunteered for the U.S. army during the Korea conflict and he says that the sacrifice wasn't and isn't worth it because S. Korea plays the trade game one way, their way only, because they don't allow the same access to their market as North America does. Shame on LG for abusing us.

Now I for one would say LG dropped the ball on the g2x however look back to Samsung's and HTC's first phones. All of these companies dropped the ball on there phones. Hopefully LG will understand the higher demand for support for there higher end phones. This was there first attempt in this higher end android market. They failed but so did HTC and Samsung.
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HTC One S

Did we at T-Mobile get gipped or what?
http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
BUT THEN THERE IS THIS SPECULATION:
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/0...to-offer-htc-one-x-as-g4x-with-stock-android/
Then ruined by this:
http://www.htc.com/us/products/htconex-att
But then there is the One XL???
http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/htc-one-xl/#specs
Also check this S*#* out:
http://htcdev.com/bootloader/
HTC One X (dual core) hands on video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSozJWow1wk
Would you still pick up the One S with the dual core, and smaller lower res screen?
What provider will receive the One XL?

my guess is the XL will go to ATT and i dont think the One S will by pegged as the G4x. The HTC One line of phone will be a flagship so it wouldnt make sense to change the name of a flagship phone on initial release
The One S isnt that different from the Amaze 4G and is still a better choice with a bigger battery and sd card slot
The same goes for the SGSII and the SGSII Blaze
Now if the LG G4x comes to T-Mobile, then that phone is definitely worth considering even thou LG/nVidia dont have a good developer reputation

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Now if the LG G4x comes to T-Mobile, then that phone is definitely worth considering even thou LG/nVidia dont have a good developer reputation
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Definitely, just like this phone, it came as crap but the dev's on XDA fixed it all up.

I think I will still pick one up. I might actually stalk the forums before I do though.
Although, if I did it that way when I went to get this I might've waited for the Sensation. :O
I'm pretty happy with the G2x, but I came from an HTC and I feel like I'll end up there again.

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my guess is the XL will go to ATT and i dont think the One S will by pegged as the G4x. The HTC One line of phone will be a flagship so it wouldnt make sense to change the name of a flagship phone on initial release
The One S isnt that different from the Amaze 4G and is still a better choice with a bigger battery and sd card slot
The same goes for the SGSII and the SGSII Blaze
Now if the LG G4x comes to T-Mobile, then that phone is definitely worth considering even thou LG/nVidia dont have a good developer reputation
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Even if the G4x has a locked bootloader?
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Even if the G4x has a locked bootloader?
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3:30
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_b-ASrPoic&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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What really impressed me with the One series phones was the video/picture capabilities. And now that HTC is helping out the dev community with offering a way to unlock the bootloaders and releasing their source code so devs can work their magic with less headache. So looks like HTC will be my next choice when my upgrade is available. I mean why wouldn't the dev be strong for their devices?! It was a great decision for HTC to support dev, this will only increase sells of their phones! They understand we nerds! Lol
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Even if the G4x has a locked bootloader?
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Didn't the G2x also have locked bootloader?
Those specs are beastly. I wouldn't mind stock version for a bit till the debate figure out something.
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No. LG has an unlocked bootloader policy.

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Didn't the G2x also have locked bootloader?
Those specs are beastly. I wouldn't mind stock version for a bit till the debate figure out something.
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No, bootloader was open on the G2x. That's why it was so easy to flash CWM, NVFlash took like 2 minutes.
But on the O4x it's going to be locked and probably for the foreseeable future. Maybe devs can crack it, or maybe they can't.
The specs are amazing no doubt. But how long will it last? I would imagine the upcoming SGSIII will out spec it. The G2x was king in specs for only such a short time, I can see the same thing happening for the upcoming O4x.
I love LG's build quality, I've enjoyed it on the G2x a lot actually. But they hate giving source, and now that they're locking the bootloader it's just going to be too much of a head ache for us phone junkies who like to mod it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wA1vQiDW9Ms#!
Listen from 6:35 on....not to excited anymore

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wA1vQiDW9Ms#!
Listen from 6:35 on....not to excited anymore
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Awww, god damnet man. I was looking forward to going back to HTC...
Sigh, Nexus or SGSIII it is then...

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Awww, god damnet man. I was looking forward to going back to HTC...
Sigh, Nexus or SGSIII it is then...
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WTF HTC so much for your making good on all future phones being unlocked deal smh
Ya for get these phones the next exnyos/mali/omap5 chips will kick mud on them anyways.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wA1vQiDW9Ms#!
Listen from 6:35 on....not to excited anymore
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I'm still trying to find where this came from, always like to verify from multiple sources...

Having a dual core isn't a bad thing when it will be the fastest processor available on the market.
Yes a dual core is faster than a quad core, architecture makes a huge difference. Stop comparing number of cores and frequency and actually look up information. The Snapdragon S4 is faster than the Tegra 3 Quad Core.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5563/qualcomms-snapdragon-s4-krait-vs-nvidias-tegra-3/1

wyldkard said:
my guess is the XL will go to ATT and i dont think the One S will by pegged as the G4x. The HTC One line of phone will be a flagship so it wouldnt make sense to change the name of a flagship phone on initial release
The One S isnt that different from the Amaze 4G and is still a better choice with a bigger battery and sd card slot
The same goes for the SGSII and the SGSII Blaze
Now if the LG G4x comes to T-Mobile, then that phone is definitely worth considering even thou LG/nVidia dont have a good developer reputation
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According to the rumors the XL is the one that ATT will be getting because it will only have the dual core prossessor. From all the tests and articles the only upside that one will have over the TMo One S is the bigger screen size..
The HTC One S will still be called the One S with Tmo that's for sure but does have some similar but better specs than the Amaze.. first of all the thickness is way thinner and even though the processor is still a 1.5 dual core its suppose to be way more efficient.. the camera is suppose to be improved from the Amazes camera also even though that camera was awesome..overall I'm sure its more improved than what words can say but I don't think people would go too wrong with getting the Amaze since it should be going for a bargain once the One S comes out..
The Galaxy S II compared to the Galaxy S Blaze though will be a bit different..first of all it was strange that they created the Blaze as part of the Galaxy S line and not the II series but there is a major difference in screen size from 3.97 of the Blaze and the SGSII is a ton bigger at 4.5 inches.. both are suppose to have the 1.5 dual core possessor but the Blaze will be more of a lower end phone.. Ive seen too many issues with all of the Galaxy S phones so personally i wouldn't ever buy a Samsung over a HTC by any means.. Samsung makes great TVs but kind of crappy cell phones.. and that's coming from someone that has been working in the industry for the better part of 12 years now.. Ive seen quite a bit..

HTC will let you unlock it through their tool I'm sure, they just don't want us having S-OFF.
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Qualcomm and nvidia have been always on the closed source side. And in closed source sense it means you have to buy a MOQ from them and sign NDA blah blah to get your hands on the datasheet. That's what AdamOutler was talking about (that dude wants to know which pin on the SoC does what ), not about HTC won't unlock the phone or release source code for the part that is open source (kernel). GPU driver is another issue as for nvidia and qualcomm it's propriety but qualcomm released their binary usermode driver for ICS. So all is fine, really.

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Qualcomm and nvidia have been always on the closed source side.
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Yea, I'm not sure why he seemed to single out HTC, as many phones and tablets have been, are, and will be built around Qualcomm and Nvidia chips. Taking his comment literally, one would think HTC developed it's own technology which it planned to keep secret. Taking into account the fact that other manufacturers will surly use the same, or similar, processors from these companies, why is he pointing the finger only at HTC?
And not to sound like an ass, but in his car analogy, you bore a cylinder, not a piston...