Will the Nexus S 4G Be Too Little, Too Late? - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm a Sprint customer up for an upgrade soon. I definitely want to switch out this pitiful Palm Pixi for an Android device. The developer community for Android is just so much more motivated and exciting than the webOS community.
As everyone knows, there are two awesome Android devices coming to Sprint in the next few months. The Nexus S 4G and the HTC EVO 3D. I originally had my heart set on the Nexus S, but then I fell in love with the awesome specs of the EVO 3D.
My main question is, I know that there will still be developers working on the Nexus S in a year, but will I regret getting it over the EVO 3D, being that it has lower specs? Do you think the Nexus S is a better choice?

JewishMatt said:
I'm a Sprint customer up for an upgrade soon. I definitely want to switch out this pitiful Palm Pixi for an Android device. The developer community for Android is just so much more motivated and exciting than the webOS community.
As everyone knows, there are two awesome Android devices coming to Sprint in the next few months. The Nexus S 4G and the HTC EVO 3D. I originally had my heart set on the Nexus S, but then I fell in love with the awesome specs of the EVO 3D.
My main question is, I know that there will still be developers working on the Nexus S in a year, but will I regret getting it over the EVO 3D, being that it has lower specs? Do you think the Nexus S is a better choice?
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Hardware wise the Evo 3d is definitely better. I don't think the NS 4g is too late and my reason behind that is because if Google continues rolling out major updates for the NS long before other devices get them then the NS will still remain current regardless of lack of dual core. Software can definitely make an old device feel new.
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JewishMatt said:
I'm a Sprint customer up for an upgrade soon. I definitely want to switch out this pitiful Palm Pixi for an Android device. The developer community for Android is just so much more motivated and exciting than the webOS community.
As everyone knows, there are two awesome Android devices coming to Sprint in the next few months. The Nexus S 4G and the HTC EVO 3D. I originally had my heart set on the Nexus S, but then I fell in love with the awesome specs of the EVO 3D.
My main question is, I know that there will still be developers working on the Nexus S in a year, but will I regret getting it over the EVO 3D, being that it has lower specs? Do you think the Nexus S is a better choice?
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As for the hardware, look at the Atrix...rubbish. EVO 3D should be a hell of a lot better than that though. I've been wanting to pull the trigger on a G2x but I keep holding off because I have a feeling there are going to be some killer uses of the NFC technology built into the Nexus S. If I'm wrong, I've still "stuck" myself with a truly fantastic device. As for getting updates early, it's not all it's chalked up to be so far with the NS. The one I have was stuck on 2.3.1 and I had to manually upgrade. As far as CM7 goes, the version built for the NS pales in comparison to the version I was running on my G2. Too many bugs and usability problems even with the "stable" release.

ScooterG said:
As for the hardware, look at the Atrix...rubbish. EVO 3D should be a hell of a lot better than that though. I've been wanting to pull the trigger on a G2x but I keep holding off because I have a feeling there are going to be some killer uses of the NFC technology built into the Nexus S. If I'm wrong, I've still "stuck" myself with a truly fantastic device. As for getting updates early, it's not all it's chalked up to be so far with the NS. The one I have was stuck on 2.3.1 and I had to manually upgrade. As far as CM7 goes, the version built for the NS pales in comparison to the version I was running on my G2. Too many bugs and usability problems even with the "stable" release.
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So do you think the EVO 3D would be better, based on the next-gen hardware?

Oh it will clearly have better hardware. But for what? There is nothing out there that taxes the Nexus S at this point. It is fast enough.
If you want the 3d or the bigger screen, wait. But don't wait for better performance, there is no point unless you just like running benchmarks all day.
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I'm getting the Nexus S because I've always wanted a dev phone. I'm sitting on 3 full upgrades, so I'll get the Evo 3D this summer as well.

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So do you think the EVO 3D would be better, based on the next-gen hardware?
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Who knows, the Evo 3d might be the better phone. It all depends on what your looking for. What exactly do you want in a phone? Most likely the Evo 3d will have more developers than the NS, but the NS software will always be officially up to date and run more smoothly since the software was built specifically for this device. I think since more dual core, etc phones are coming out GOOGLE will continue to roll out major updates for the NS to prove that software plays a major part in smartphones. I personally don't see why we need a dual core phone if our phone is already fast, but that's just me.
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So do you think the EVO 3D would be better, based on the next-gen hardware?
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spec wise yes but the design is crap IMO. ill go with the nexus s anyday.

WiMax sucks imho
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WiMax sucks imho
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way to troll t-mobile boy! thanks for playing!

I hate 3d and HTC, it is all BS just get a Nexus S, the whole idea that the Qualcom dual core is faster than Tegra 2 is false as well. They boasted that their 1.5ghz dual core processor can run circles around a Tegra 2 clocked at 1ghz. Well... OBVIOUSLY. Plus this is the same Evo just with 3d and a slightly faster processor, HTC is bringing fragmentation to a new level, they have software fragmentation within software fragmentation. A great majority of all of HTC's devices will not receive Sense 3.0. Nexus S wins by the software route, and maybe even the hardware one too, HTC cameras never perform as advertised and their screens are crap a lot of the time. Nexus S 4G may be late, but not too late. I would say it's late when you see a Tegra 2 device on Sprint like the Galaxy S2, it runs circles around the Evo 3D for sure, just Google some benchmarks.
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way to troll t-mobile boy! thanks for playing!
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It's my view on the technology this phone will use. I don't see what T-Mobile has to do with it and I'm a man.
This phone will use WiMax, if you're in an area that has it, maybe it will make you happy. My experiences with the Evo and WiMax in NY were negative.
Other than that it's a Nexus S on a CDMA network that will let Sprint customers enjoy the pure Google Android experience without switching carriers. That's great. Choice is great.
I personally wouldn't let WiMax factor into my decision if I was on another carrier looking at sprint.
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csmall said:
WiMax sucks imho
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Engineer something better....
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BrianDigital said:
Engineer something better....
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WiMax does suck, LTE IS TEH FUTURE
Lol... xD in all honesty WiMax might make the Evo 3d heavier, and the 3d might have already made it heavy to begin with, who knows I could be wrong.
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the evo3d isnt a big enough advancement for me to ditch my evo for it. if i cant get my hw003 replaced with a 004, ill be buying the nexus s, at retail. no contracts for this guy...or maybe ill get it on a contract...
if the nexus comes SOON, ill jump on it, mostly for the dev aspect and the gpu. if its not coming until first or second week in may, ill wait to handle an evo3d. the evo 3d is physically ugly though, imo and form factor means a lot to me.
i prefer htc to samsung but i may be playing with a ns4g very soon. Now if only I knew WHEN it was coming...cause no public release dates is straight up oscar mayer

For me, the 'getting updates first' perk of the Nexus S is more important than dual-core or 3d. Plus, I'm just sick of the Hero and want a new phone ASAP.

Smokexz said:
I hate 3d and HTC, it is all BS just get a Nexus S, the whole idea that the Qualcom dual core is faster than Tegra 2 is false as well. They boasted that their 1.5ghz dual core processor can run circles around a Tegra 2 clocked at 1ghz. Well... OBVIOUSLY. Plus this is the same Evo just with 3d and a slightly faster processor, HTC is bringing fragmentation to a new level, they have software fragmentation within software fragmentation. A great majority of all of HTC's devices will not receive Sense 3.0. Nexus S wins by the software route, and maybe even the hardware one too, HTC cameras never perform as advertised and their screens are crap a lot of the time. Nexus S 4G may be late, but not too late. I would say it's late when you see a Tegra 2 device on Sprint like the Galaxy S2, it runs circles around the Evo 3D for sure, just Google some benchmarks.
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Obviously your a supporter of the tegra 2, you have a xoom. So of course your going to have a biased opinion. You have little knowledge but a whole lot of hate. To the OP, don't listen to this guy, he seriously is not a good source and just wants to troll. That said these phones aren't even out yet so how can such strong opinions (ok mainly thee evo 3d) be postulated?
I'M IN SPAAAACCCEEEE! I'M IN SPACE! I'M IN SPACE!

Nexus-S is a bad ass device, who cares about dual core right now, I would wait until "Ice cream" update is out, for true dual core support, and then get the newest Android phone out at that time, which will probably be a dual core Nexus-3.0 that will be first phone with "Ice Cream" 3.1.
So get the Nexus-S now and have fun. And upgrade to the true dual core phone Nexus-3.0, when it comes out if you want.

Dual.core sounds tempting but im not a game player on my.phone. So for some the nexus s looks to be a great upgrade.
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For me, the 'getting updates first' perk of the Nexus S is more important than dual-core or 3d. Plus, I'm just sick of the Hero and want a new phone ASAP.
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You poor soul I had to drop the hero as soon as the evo came out. I swore sometimes having that little guy overclocked actuallt performed worse
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Mytouch 4g or nexus s

Hi, I currently have a rooted mytouch 4g running android 2.3 that I bought used off of craigslist. I got an offer to trade my mytouch 4g plus cash for a nexus s brand new. Now I don't necessarily love Samsung but the deal seems like it could be beneficial to me. Some background:
I have a mytouch with a 'bad screen'
I have absolutely none of the original packaging or accessories.
The phone is a bit scuffed up and it is purple.
Now I was hoping you guys could give me your opinion, if you were in my shoes, would you trade or keep the phone?
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I wouldn't....
too many bad things about the nexus s, and far too many fones that will be released in the next few months that will outdate "kill" the nexus S while the mt4g even with a bad screen STANDS STRONG, i also have a bad screen and this is far better processor, plus you can contact htc through tmoble to possibly exchange now for the scuffs u can spend 11bucks at ur local mall and get watever color gel case u want and.u now have ur fave color mt4g in ur hands
just my opinion do sum reading thru here there are lots of negatives to the nexus s, our (mt4g) gingerbread runs wayyy better
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I honestly do not see why not... If I was in your shoes I would do it, if you don't you will probably be asking yourself what if? Plus you should factor in the following which is are you able to fully utilize hspa+ where you are.... Ultimately it also comes down to whether you have patience for Nexus S development to pick up and moreover if the mytouch better suits what you need... The Nexus S in my honest opinion is currently a better offering hardware wise and potentially (support google/dev scene) software wise with the largest omission being hspa+...
Apparently very debatable
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Hi, I currently have a rooted mytouch 4g running android 2.3 that I bought used off of craigslist. I got an offer to trade my mytouch 4g plus cash for a nexus s brand new. Now I don't necessarily love Samsung but the deal seems like it could be beneficial to me. Some background:
I have a mytouch with a 'bad screen'
I have absolutely none of the original packaging or accessories.
The phone is a bit scuffed up and it is purple.
Now I was hoping you guys could give me your opinion, if you were in my shoes, would you trade or keep the phone?
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I got the NS for 1 week and I went back to the MT4G. Maybe you like the NS, so try it and if not you can trade it again. I had a thread about my experience with the NS and compared it a bit to the MT4G.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913896
I'm returning my Nexus S tomorrow. Picked up the my touch yesterday. So far I think this version of Sense is terrible. That, however can be fixed. Really there are a number off things I don't like about the my touch yet I will still return the Nexus. GPS, accelerometer, and compass all function much better on the my touch. Huge difference. If I'm going to spend 500 bucks on a phone I expect the features that make it more than just a phone to work well. Updates from Google are important but I would rather have well functioning hardware. If the my touch never receives another ota it's still a pretty good phone. The Nexus will probably never have a stable compass or gps. That's my take at least. There were some other hardware issues such as phantom button presses that put me over the edge with the Nexus, but that may have been cured with an exchange.
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I went from the G1, which I loved, to the Vibrant, which I loved to hate. The developers did the best they could but the phone was still sitting with no official froyo six months after release, so I got fed up and sold it.
I got a Nexus S after the hype, went through two replacements before I got one that functioned properly. In the end, I still couldn't come to terms with the fact I was essentially buying another Samsung phone. I did some comparison shopping. Turned my S back for a refund and got a MT4G.
I did have to exchange the MT4G one time to get one with a good display, so I wasn't too happy at first, but now I'm much happier than I was with the Nexus S. It's got a more solid build, the camera is better, the buttons are responsive (big problem with the Nexus), the GPS locks quickly, I trust an HTC device 100x more than a Samsung device, and considering that we are getting Cyan 7 nightlies that are already fairly stable, I know I've made the right choice.
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Hi, I currently have a rooted mytouch 4g running android 2.3 that I bought used off of craigslist. I got an offer to trade my mytouch 4g plus cash for a nexus s brand new. Now I don't necessarily love Samsung but the deal seems like it could be beneficial to me. Some background:
I have a mytouch with a 'bad screen'
I have absolutely none of the original packaging or accessories.
The phone is a bit scuffed up and it is purple.
Now I was hoping you guys could give me your opinion, if you were in my shoes, would you trade or keep the phone?
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I would do it, and then turn around and sell it, and get myself another myTouch 4g with a good screen brand new. nexus s is selling for wayyyy tooo much imho...
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I would do it, and then turn around and sell it, and get myself another myTouch 4g with a good screen brand new. nexus s is selling for wayyyy tooo much imho...
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Thats what I would do... Make a post, selling a Nexus S you haven't traded for yet, and see how many hits you get... if you get some legit hits.. I would trade the MT4G for the NS and sell the NS, then buy a MT4G or wait for some of these next-gen phones to come out. I LOVE the MT4G....it is amazing...think the NS fails in comparision...and anyone that would pick a NS over the MT4G is prolly just doing so because they are google fanboys, or they don't want to admit to themselves they paid 500 dollars for a phone that is basically the iphone with bugs....I honestly don't think anyone looking at the matchup objectively would pick the NS over the MT4G. Good Luck with your decision making, hope it works out.
You really want to get some unbiased answers post this same question in the Nexus S forms... Btw, I agree with the poster above if your heart is set on a mytouch 4g turn around and sell the Nexus S you acquire and obtain a mytouch 4g with the better built screen and possibly a better exterior color, like black
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Jaskwith said:
and anyone that would pick a NS over the MT4G is prolly just doing so because they are google fanboys, or they don't want to admit to themselves they paid 500 dollars for a phone that is basically the iphone with bugs....
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LOL now now lets not be that harsh, NS can still beat down the iPanzy 4 with its eye closed. But NS does not compare against MT4G as we know TMo Project: Emerald was successful IMO they created a monster muahaha and even its brother DHD can't beat MT4G in speed yet they share similar spec. NS could have been good but its crippled by Samsung due to their inferior management and other marketing factors.
If I am not mistaken doesn't the hummingbird processor take advantage of gingerbread in ways any generation of the snapdragon processor cannot? Or was this a myth?
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Originally I wanted the nexus s but my parents got me the mytouch.
To me 2.3 was a huge bonus for the nexus s but now the mytouch has 2.3 so its all good. The next advantage was the better screen for the nexus but now that super amoled two displays are coming out the nexus screen will be obsolete soon enough.although if I was you I would just wait for the phones announced at ces to come out.
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Yeah, you're pretty much going to get biased opinons, but I think the myTouch has a better chance of anything at this point. We got the CM7 nightys coming along nicely, and we even have a cleaned up version of the stock rom which runs like fire (Iced Glacier) and overall it supports TMobile's 4G network.
MyTouch all the way. You really don't need the NFC for another couple of years cause they're just starting to put some use to it.
MyTouch all the way, and plus read some of the stuff about the Nexus, it's having lagging issues, random reboots and such. And plus it's a Samsung device, that doesn't mean it won't get the next version of Android quick, but the fact that it's just a samsung device and that it feels like ****. The Mytouch (at least mine) feels solid.
ATM its just a myth as Hummingbird S5PC110 does not stand a chance with Snapdragon MSM8255 was only factor with 1st gen Snapdragon. But however at the same time credit must be given to SGX 540 as its slightly better than Adreno 205. Then again this is where Samsung can only excel huh in graphic and SAMOLED display. Also don't let the whole NS using ext4 BS get to you as we are still not in dualcore world fully but ext4 does have its benefits. Overall MT4G beats NS with its face down in the gutter where Samsung belongs. This device is not any type of flagship but it does have potentials as lineup device, only thing I see holding it back is Samsung lol and then again they tend to do that.
I've had both but ultimately chose the MyTouch because having 4g speeds made a huge difference in the entire experience. On the NS I was always having to run wifi. Also the NS just never felt complete. Running CM7 makes the MT4g a complete phone.
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Dont, Nexus S isnt really a that good of phone plus u have gingerbread etc and Nexus S is samsung made. Cheap quality. MT4g kicks its ass in CPU and Some GPU stuff ( shader performance and more) so i say keep it
If you have 2.3 on your mt4g there is no point. That's the only thing the nexus s has over mt4g out of the box. Plus the mt4g has 4g and HTC is better than Samsung by a long shot...
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Thanks for the replies guys, I'm currently talking with a Guy about trading mytouches, hopefully he has a good screen
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check it out when you buy it, install the terminal emulator and run the dmesg or something like that

Convince me not to buy a Thunderbolt… please...

(I have Verizon)
So I see that the Bionic is going to be dual core, better resolution etc. And it’s all over the internet that it appeared on Amazon for $149 for a few hours. So I would be an idiot to get the Thunderbolt now for $199 right? I mean even if I did want the thunderbolt I should wait for the Bionic because the TB’s price will go way, way down if the Bionic is $149..!
Anyone know when the Bionic will be out? I have seen post that it could be any time, others that it will be June...
A guy I work with has been looking for a new phone for at least a year now, constantly putting it off because there is something better around the corner.
Personally I really love Sense UI on my desire HD - it seems far better than motoblur, or any of the other UI overlays I've seen.
Yeah I know all about the putting it off thing. But these are big differences. The Thunderbolt is going to be like one of the last very top single core phones... Screw that.
If all phones are 2 or 3 months from all being dual core I want to wait.
Plus the Bionic has the bigger screen res and the dual core Nvidia CPU!
These are not little differences…
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Yeah I know all about the putting it off thing. But these are big differences. The Thunderbolt is going to be like one of the last very top single core phones... Screw that.
If all phones are 2 or 3 months from all being dual core I want to wait.
Plus the Bionic has the bigger screen res and the dual core Nvidia CPU!
These are not little differences…
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So what the **** was the point of this post? Jesus
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So what the **** was the point of this post? Jesus
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Since I posted it I have convinced myself even more! Lol
And I’m waiting for a post from someone saying I should wait for the Bionic too to make me feel better about it! lol
And unlike your friend I’m not waiting for “a better phone”… Its between the Thunderbolt and the Bionic only… I guess if the Galaxy S II came out I would think about it a little, but not much…
So it’s all about when the Bionic will come out and how much it will be when it does….
does seem very much like you've made up your mind
I seem to get burnt every time I stray from HTC. The big decider for me is actually holding one in my hands and playing with it - I've been all for a certain phone til I held it and thought "wow... feels a bit cruddy" hence why I have a Desire HD rather than a Galaxy S.
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does seem very much like you've made up your mind
I seem to get burnt every time I stray from HTC. The big decider for me is actually holding one in my hands and playing with it - I've been all for a certain phone til I held it and thought "wow... feels a bit cruddy" hence why I have a Desire HD rather than a Galaxy S.
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I appreciate that but I am not a brand loyalty guy…
I go ATI or NVIDA, Intel or AMD, Motorola or HTC, who cares… I want best bang for the buck period.
That changes all the time and so I change what I buy all the time. I have never not been "burnt" a little by any brand... They all have their pros and cons...
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I appreciate that but I am not a brand loyalty guy…
I go ATI or NVIDA, Intel or AMD, Motorola or HTC, who cares… I want best bang for the buck period.
That changes all the time and so I change what I buy all the time. I have never not been "burnt" a little by any brand... They all have their pros and cons...
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I gotta agree with the HTC sentiment. You will be much better off with HTC than with Motorola or Samsung. HTC phones are just superb, in my opinion. I have an Inspire 4G (HTC Desire HD) as well as an HTC HD2 and I had an HTC HD7. All are and were (hardware wise for the HD2 and HD7) excellent and superbly reliable and well built. My Inspire is the friggin love of my gadget life. I have not ever owned a phone like the Inspire that ever impressed me as much as it has. The Thunderbolt is basically the exact same as the Inspire/Desire HD except with front facing camera and other stuff...the LTE radio, as well.
If I were going to Verizon, the Thunderbolt would be my no-thought, no-blink choice. The Bionic is pretty much Verizon's version if the Atrix from AT&T. It has had some issues and the UI isn't as smooth as Sense 2.0. Plus if you want to customize, Motorola isn't too keen on an open platform. The Bionic looks good in specs and appearance, but that only goes so far. At the end of the day, the Thunderbolt will keep impressing you.
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I gotta agree with the HTC sentiment. You will be much better off with HTC than with Motorola or Samsung. HTC phones are just superb, in my opinion. I have an Inspire 4G (HTC Desire HD) as well as an HTC HD2 and I had an HTC HD7. All are and were (hardware wise for the HD2 and HD7) excellent and superbly reliable and well built. My Inspire is the friggin love of my gadget life. I have not ever owned a phone like the Inspire that ever impressed me as much as it has. The Thunderbolt is basically the exact same as the Inspire/Desire HD except with front facing camera and other stuff...the LTE radio, as well.
If I were going to Verizon, the Thunderbolt would be my no-thought, no-blink choice. The Bionic is pretty much Verizon's version if the Atrix from AT&T. It has had some issues and the UI isn't as smooth as Sense 2.0. Plus if you want to customize, Motorola isn't too keen on an open platform. The Bionic looks good in specs and appearance, but that only goes so far. At the end of the day, the Thunderbolt will keep impressing you.
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Agreed... I'm not one for brand loyalty, they all seem to have their ups and downs. HTC is on a great roll currently, and still seem to have something to prove.
My last phone was a sony and it was a horiffic letdown, as was my wifes X10. Both were some of the best around on paper. Premium price, nice design, AWFUL build quality and rotten support.
The other big plus is HTC tend to keep updating their handsets - the old desire is still getting 'em! Most other companies tend to stop caring once they have your money.
HTC is the RollsRoyce of phones
Rumor has it when the bionic comes out, it will come with new data pricing for 4G. Possibly tiered and higher rates.
You don't want the thunderbolt because its basically a refresh of the EVO. Tbolt has a better screen, 2nd generation qualcomm, better camera, more memory pre installed, new kickstand design, louder speaker, and its 4G at 30 bucks unlimited. All these reasons are not enough to get the phone now. ........sarcasm.
Get your bionic and have motoblur ... Yuck. Plus the bionic is ugly phone. Your truly going to sacrifice everything just for a first generation dual core phone?! ........besides you want a dual core dual channel phone but that's another story.
So far the only reason anyone has given to get the Thunderbolt is because they think HTC is better than Motorola. That is not a valid reason.
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[Q] Best Android Smart Phone for games

Hi all, I just wanted to post a quick question. I'm looking to upgrade from my sad Kyocera Zio M6000 to a top of the line, best in the market, Android smart phone. I thought I was going to get the HTC Thunderbolt until I spoke with my sister who works for Verizon and she said to hold off because it's having issues right now with switching from 3G to 4G. So I wanted to check here and see what you all think right now is the best, top of the line android smart phone out there. The most powerful, can handle -ANY- games out on the market, can record HD video, has 2 way camera, all the bells and whistles and is going to last me liekly years before I even think about getting a new one. I made a mistake getting my Zio and I've been regretting it for 10 months now and I don't want to make that mistake again. I plan to play game son it, watch movies,.. everything on it .. I appreciate all your responses and thank you for your time! REason I posted here is because I want the new phoen to be able to run any app and play any game flawlessly
-Seabhac
WAIT, I must say, when it comes to a phone and games Samsung has the best hardware but horrible software support (updates). As of now, hTc is behind the game. So far they haven't released any phones that even get close to competing with the Galaxy S II. Wait for a better Galaxy S to get on Verizon and GO. The Fascinate just doesn't get the job done either.
Droid Charge? It has literally everything you have mentioned. I personally would choose the Nexus S or HTC Sensation when it comes out. Droid Bionic will also have everything you are asking for and the Atrix 4G also seems pretty future proof.
Atrix is fine but motorola doesn't seem to provide OS-Updates in a serious manner.
I'd head for Nexus S. Strong hardware and probably quiet fast updates to ice cream and beyond.
Nevertheless I love my defy and wouldn't change for a nexus S but I'm not a gamer
Appreciate the answers but let me qualify this a step further,.. I want to replace it in the near future like this week or the next so of the ones out -now- which is the most powerful? I'm starting to think I might have to go iphone 4 but I really would prefer not to go that proprietary! lol
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Appreciate the answers but let me qualify this a step further,.. I want to replace it in the near future like this week or the next so of the ones out -now- which is the most powerful? I'm starting to think I might have to go iphone 4 but I really would prefer not to go that proprietary! lol
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shame on you!
'Powerful' - How about HTC Sensation?
HTC Sensation should be out anytime now so i would hold out for that if i was you.
xperia play!
Best gaming device with dedicated keys!
wait for the HTC Sensation
Maybe evo 3D? Or xperia play which mentioned by hon kin above
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What are everyone's opinions of the HTC Thunderbolt? I keep considering that one as well due to the fact it seems to be the top of the line right now from Verizon.
Try LG Optimus 2X.... Dual-core with Nvidia Tegra!! Should be the most powerful one available in the market for now... gsmarena.com for more info...
Well truthfully it depends on which carrier your going to go with. As of right now T-Mobile has the G2X which is an Nvidia Tegra Dual Core Device and I believe it has Full Root now at least it looked close to it when I checked in on that forum on here a week or so back. Also most Android phones can be overclocked so look through the forums at the newer devices and see what they are doing there and how active it is and that will give you a better idea of what to go for considering the devices that are good and will get updates faster than stock tend to be the one's with the best reputation and like I said updated before stock. I personally have the T-Mobile G2 and the MyTouch 4g both Rooted and Both with Custom Roms and also Both Overclocked and running Gingerbread which is not released for Either phone Officially and I have yet to have issues running any games and don't get much screen delay at all on either of them. The G2X fyi is the American version of the LG Optimus 2X.
Xperia PLay Would be great..you will hav a big screen with PlayStation And Android Support in one device...
Nexus Prime!
just wait for the nexus prime!!!
just a week!!
Optimus 2x
Yes i love my Optimus 2x with Thanatos 4.1 custom overclocked 1400mhz dual-core rom so much that i bielieve it is the best for gaming.....
I have never try anything else xD

Nexus prime?

do you guys think it would be a good idea to get a nexus prime?
Yes
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yup, if it comes in AWS
So finally a phone you guys think is worth switching to?
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So finally a phone you guys think is worth switching to?
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Only if T-Mobile isn't cut out of the loop again and that curve on the screen isn't so insanely exaggerated as the teaser makes it appear to be.
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Only if T-Mobile isn't cut out of the loop again
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Nexus 1 and the Nexus S launched with T-Mobile and AWS before anyone else, not sure how they got "cut out of the loop"
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Nexus 1 and the Nexus S launched with T-Mobile and AWS before anyone else, not sure how they got "cut out of the loop"
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The Nexus S 4G (which wasn't really different), so I did do a bit of keyboard-in-mouth, for a minute there I did forget the Nexus S came out on T-Mobile first. Tired.
I came from the Nexus One, bought the G2x off-contract, specically to be able to pick up the Nexus Prime at a discount.
I just hope the nexus prime won't disappoint. Rumors on specs are mixed. The qualcomm chips in the Tmo SG2 and Amaze are meh. Also 5mp camera is meh.... other specs say it'll have the Exynos chipset and 8mp cam. Some say Verizon will get it first others say T-Mobile. Verizon has the Droid Prime with similar specs already and aren't ones to keep it clean with Android.
Either way, if the specs are worthwhile over the G2x, I'll grab it.
Best solution for me personally would be Verizon with sweet specs as my old work blackberry needs upgraded and I set up our new exchange to work properly so my company is allowing Android sets now... meaning I can kill my $70 personal T-Mobile line, sell my G2x and profit.
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I honestly don't think it's that much of an upgrade of our G2x's. Our phone is still up to par with alot of the phones out there now.. Once we get ICS on this thing, we should be fine.
Will it work on at&t?
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Yeah. I think it'll get more development support and the devs won't have to worry about nvidia giving up the source codes.
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The Prime looks nice but I plan on holding onto my G2x until the phone hits at least the one year mark if not more to see what's coming next spring and summer. Quad core phones anyone?
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I know everyone wants the latest and greatest, but sometimes it's a bit overkill. Unless you have a good job with 500+ bucks to throw I don't see why we should be running to get the Prime when you already have a Tegra 2 Dual core device. Nothing can even tough this device yet.
It'd be hard for me to dump my dual core device for another dual core. At this point might as well wait for whatever the next gen quads come out next year. And once that happens, I don't even know what we'd do with a quad core lol.
Well... We'd buy more batteries, of course.
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Well... We'd buy more batteries, of course.
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Lol, I seriously think they should just take a break on the progression of processors, screens, GPU's, etc. and use that time and man power in advancing the technology of battery's... That's literally the only Achilles heel that even the best smartphone's have these days.
At this point, I'd rather have the creation of a 5,000 mAH battery with out changing it's size than a quad core processor.
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Lol, I seriously think they should just take a break on the progression of processors, screens, GPU's, etc. and use that time and man power in advancing the technology of battery's... That's literally the only Achilles heel that even the best smartphone's have these days.
At this point, I'd rather have the creation of a 5,000 mAH battery with out changing it's size than a quad core processor.
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Agreed ten fold. I'm waiting til the Nexus Double Prime before I plan to upgrade. This phone is doing just fine, and has a very nice set of developers working on it for us.
If they did make quad core phones, I bet the battery life would be at least 20% worse than now. When I'm not even getting super amazing battery life to begin with, it might be a problem.
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I honestly don't think it's that much of an upgrade of our G2x's. Our phone is still up to par with alot of the phones out there now.. Once we get ICS on this thing, we should be fine.
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Yeah, main difference between the two will be updates. Something the G2X will probably never officially see. After the half ass 2.3 update we got I'm pretty much over it.
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I really don't see the point of quad core phones; unless Google does something unbelievable with Jelly Bean that needs an insane amount of processing, nothing a smartphone does needs that much. Hell, dual core isn't even that necessary unless you run a lot of 3D stuff.
There is such a thing as overkill people. I'd like to see phone manufactorers declare the smartphone as it exists now finished and start working on some new innovations that would make better hardware necessary. 3D screen ala Nintendo 3DS with FFC capable of eye-tracking to orient the 3D so you see it at any angle?
While I agree that the G2x can hold its own, I do miss owning a nexus device. My friend still has his Nexus One and running official software we can only get via custom roms.
My reasoning to grabbing the Nexus Prime IF if launches on Verizon is so my work can pay for it. Unfortunately I heard Verizon is launching the Galaxy Prime.... which is similar but not the nexus prime backed by Google.
Well just have to wait until Tuesday. All the rumors running around its hard to make any reasonable decision.
If Verizon gets gimped on Google support then I'll keep my G2x for a long while.
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Agreed. My work is on sprint and I am waiting to see if it launches on sprint. If it does, I'll pick it up. If not, either sii or stay on g2x. It looks to me that the prime is going to launch on everyone but sprint.
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Gal Nex worth it now?

So I'm done with the sensation, all the "remove all sense, add fast in topic title" devs (no offence, but I personally think there's too many of this already).
I'm now thinking of getting a Gal Nex, only because of the AOSP development over there. but I am a little worried it might be slower than my sensation (1.5ghz vs 1.2, anyone? and the gpu?)
So in your honest opinion, do you think an upgrade to the gal nex is okay?
(btw, please don't go "if you didn't like sense and want aosp why did you buy the sensation. I got this because of the hardware, not some crappy sluggish UI HTC made.)
I just got done saying thia in ankther thread. Just wait lkke more months when new lhones with way better technology
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I just got done saying thia in ankther thread. Just wait lkke more months when new lhones with way better technology
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If you have this opinion, you'll never have a new phone. A "better" phone is ALWAYS around the corner. I'm alright with specs like the gal nex or the sensation because I don't game .
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If you have this opinion, you'll never have a new phone. A "better" phone is ALWAYS around the corner. I'm alright with specs like the gal nex or the sensation because I don't game .
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ive been through many phones already. i came back to the sensation because the specs of the current phones are all the same in some way. i chose sensation for build quality, looks, and camera. and especially with the One series coming out, wait for it.
Galaxy nexus is not an upgrade from sensation, it is a side grade. It's better in some ways but worse in others.
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So I'm done with the sensation, all the "remove all sense, add fast in topic title" devs (no offence, but I personally think there's too many of this already).
I'm now thinking of getting a Gal Nex, only because of the AOSP development over there. but I am a little worried it might be slower than my sensation (1.5ghz vs 1.2, anyone? and the gpu?)
So in your honest opinion, do you think an upgrade to the gal nex is okay?
(btw, please don't go "if you didn't like sense and want aosp why did you buy the sensation. I got this because of the hardware, not some crappy sluggish UI HTC made.)
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As above poster said, it's a "side-grade" rather than an upgrade. It's most likely that cpu doesn't make that much noticable difference: 1.2 should be enough to run contemporary apps (they're usually designed to be compatible with slower phones, hence why iPhone can get away with underclocking for instance), especially since you don't game. Ditto for the GPU. This should also lead to better battery life - along with having a more powerful battery, of course.
That said, there are a lot of quirks with the Nexus itself (and, to some extent, Samsung's handling of it). Camera, MTP USB protocol only, nonremovable SD card, question of whether car dock will ever be made. Make sure you research and are happy with all of them before buying.
It's been a few months, so the Nexus should be getting pretty cheap. I would get it for at most $600 U.S. Price promotions often come out here, though I'm not sure about in your geographical location.
I assume you know about the alternatives showcased in MWC that are coming out in a few months. Huawei Ascend D (the "fastest phone") is rumored to come with stock ICS for example. Galaxy Nexus is still probably the best bet right now for longer term dev support, however.
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As above poster said, it's a "side-grade" rather than an upgrade. It's most likely that cpu doesn't make that much noticable difference: 1.2 should be enough to run contemporary apps (they're usually designed to be compatible with slower phones, hence why iPhone can get away with underclocking for instance), especially since you don't game. Ditto for the GPU. This should also lead to better battery life - along with having a more powerful battery, of course.
That said, there are a lot of quirks with the Nexus itself (and, to some extent, Samsung's handling of it). Camera, MTP USB protocol only, nonremovable SD card, question of whether car dock will ever be made. Make sure you research and are happy with all of them before buying.
It's been a few months, so the Nexus should be getting pretty cheap. I would get it for at most $600 U.S. Price promotions often come out here, though I'm not sure about in your geographical location.
I assume you know about the alternatives showcased in MWC that are coming out in a few months. Huawei Ascend D (the "fastest phone") is rumored to come with stock ICS for example. Galaxy Nexus is still probably the best bet right now for longer term dev support, however.
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Hmm, thanks for the reply . I've already made a deal with the seller and we're meeting up tomorrow. Will probably make a comparison. But just out of curiosity, which gpu performs better?and I mean real life performance. Eg our gpu is supposedly better that the gs2's but in real life gs2 is much better.
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But just out of curiosity, which gpu performs better?and I mean real life performance. Eg our gpu is supposedly better that the gs2's but in real life gs2 is much better.
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I have no idea
Edit: But, I wouldn't count on the Nexus' GPU being better.
Double Edit: Stop being a serial thanker lol.
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I have no idea
Edit: But, I wouldn't count on the Nexus' GPU being better.
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Aaawww dem. Guess I'll find out tomorrow! Thanks anyways
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There are some amaizing development on diffrent kernels on the GN. So with a costum kernel you will brobably not feel like it´s going slower atleast...
Well, the Galaxy Nexus is a great phone, so is all of the Galaxy lines and it's variants.
But it is rumored that the S3 will come out within 6 months. If you have patience wait for that
If not go with the Galaxy Nexus, or Galaxy S2.
Personally an Infuse 4g User (Variant of the S2).
I really wouldnt get the Nexus and go for the S2 or wait a month or two for the Htc one X and im sure there will be AOSP roms for it soon
The one X looks like a beast even with the htc sense on it
The Galaxy Nexus is an awesome buy, the trouble with always waiting is that you end up buying nothing
As said its a side grade, but you get the benefit of quick novelty updates. Personally I would wait for A15 cored phones instead.
$1 gets you a reply
And this is why I bought my Nexus before MWC ...
Nexus 2
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Haha, I got my nexus. Its an upgrade from the sensation. Even though specs isn't as nice on paper, it feels faster. I don't regret getting it.
As for the one x will get aosp in a few months, I wouldn't count on it. People have been saying that for the sensation ever since the day we got s-off. But look at it now. Lol.
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Well, the Galaxy Nexus is a great phone, so is all of the Galaxy lines and it's variants.
But it is rumored that the S3 will come out within 6 months. If you have patience wait for that
If not go with the Galaxy Nexus, or Galaxy S2.
Personally an Infuse 4g User (Variant of the S2).
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Infuse is not a variant of the S2. It's closer to the S1 than S2
YES YES YES, nexus ALWAYS gets support from google no matter what, for about 2 years. The one thing I have witnessed with android is horrible support and update timelines for every phone other than the nexus line. Plus if you're not happy, the nexus always has a rather big dev community
there are some really good changes in the new one so I think its better to go for a new one if you really like

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