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Would you still want to keep your Nexus S after CES?

There will be new phones announced at CES coming this January. Will you be loyal to your Nexus S after seeing all the second generation phones? In example the dual-core processors, the new 4g headsets, honeycomb tablets, and etc.
I still would want to get one, yet the thing I don't know after I would still want to.
Thanks.

Yes, I will have this phone until the next Nexus device.
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No I am going to keep my nexus s for at least a year.

Jesus not this **** again............

Can we please please please stop this

Be right back, let me get in my time machine...

Can we get the mod to ban anyone else that starts a post with a totally negative feel. There can be nothing positive or constructive about a needless post like this... The phone is quality, we are very happy, now you have your answer;/
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Whoa sorry for the thread. I was just wondering. I did not know that everyone one you would get offended....
This is something positive for the nexus makes you say that you wont give it up.
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Alopez_45 said:
Whoa sorry for the thread. I was just wondering. I did not know that everyone one you would get offended....
This is something positive for the nexus makes you say that your give it up....
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Largely just bad timing, mate. We had a string of trolls roll through here lately making threads along the lines of yours. Plus this topic in general has been discussed to death in a number of really, really great threads.
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truth is, nexus s came very late. to an end of an era. nexus S, desire HD, desire Z. all of those are very best. but the very best of old technology.
new phones coming up. some early Jan, some in mid of next year and some at the end of next year. this is very typical.
the smart thing is to know what do YOU really need ?
people who bought the nexus S didnt buy it for its super power. Nexus S isnt the most powerful phone . hell desire HD has more ram in it. they only bought this phone because they are sick of lag fixing, waiting for months and months to get a decent firmware update. Samsung / Sony ericsson / HTC are **** when it comes to updating their firmware " specially Sony, f**k you Sony with your 1.6 firmware on a 2010 phone and waiting till the end of 2010 to finally get 2.1
The people here don't want this. they bought an android for their software not hardware. as far as i can tell. i dont know one game or application that doesnt run super smooth on desire HD/ Nexus S. till the new games/Apps starts to lag and perform bad on these devices, then its the day people should start looking for new phone.
if you are already a nexus S owner, then its stupid to waste your money on a new device that you wont get advantage from it software side. UNLESS there is a hardware feature you wanted on the phone. like for the example the new LG phone has HDMI out and 1080p Video recording. if YOU need that, then yeah the phone is good. BUT if you buy the phone thinking software wise the phone is better, then you are wrong and wasting money.

I donot see another Stock android experience coming any time soon..and personally having a dual core phone means nothing if you are running outdated software

ll_l_x_l_ll said:
truth is, nexus s came very late. to an end of an era. nexus S, desire HD, desire Z. all of those are very best. but the very best of old technology.
new phones coming up. some early Jan, some in mid of next year and some at the end of next year. this is very typical.
the smart thing is to know what do YOU really need ?
people who bought the nexus S didnt buy it for its super power. Nexus S isnt the most powerful phone . hell desire HD has more ram in it. they only bought this phone because they are sick of lag fixing, waiting for months and months to get a decent firmware update. Samsung / Sony ericsson / HTC are **** when it comes to updating their firmware " specially Sony, f**k you Sony with your 1.6 firmware on a 2010 phone and waiting till the end of 2010 to finally get 2.1
The people here don't want this. they bought an android for their software not hardware. as far as i can tell. i dont know one game or application that doesnt run super smooth on desire HD/ Nexus S. till the new games/Apps starts to lag and perform bad on these devices, then its the day people should start looking for new phone.
if you are already a nexus S owner, then its stupid to waste your money on a new device that you wont get advantage from it software side. UNLESS there is a hardware feature you wanted on the phone. like for the example the new LG phone has HDMI out and 1080p Video recording. if YOU need that, then yeah the phone is good. BUT if you buy the phone thinking software wise the phone is better, then you are wrong and wasting money.
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Actually, it is the most powerful phone atm. 768MB RAM isn't power. 90 million triangles on stock Gingerbread is power. Not that the Desire HD isn't super fast either. Just the Hummingbird is currently unmatched except for the Tegra2 which hasn't truly debuted yet and isn't necesarily "better".

Tmobile has to be getting something great for me to even begin to decide

until we all stop replying to this kine of threads and non-sense posts, this is going to continue on and on... Just ignore and ignore as I been doing, until we get some good moderator on this Nexus S area.

I just want T-Mobile to get better coverage
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If Verizon announces a Galaxy S type device (ie., SAMOLED screen that's 4" or 4.3", with a top end CPU and GPU, and the large 1GB ROM space for apps) with Gingerbread, and due out by March, I am all over it and the Nexus S will go back to Best Buy. If it's not LTE, I'd still consider it, but only because I just am not 100% happy with T-Mobile and AT&T service, and really would like a Verizon network device.
To those griping about "not another thread like this"...do everyone a favor and give the thread a 1-star rating and DON'T RESPOND. The bad threads will sink to the last pages of the forum and you won't have to see them. Keep responding with pointless "stop this kind of posts" posts and they'll just keep bubbling up to the top.
Along those lines, it would sure be nice if XDA had an IGNORE THIS THREAD feature to permanently keep bad threads out of your sight. I've asked/suggested for that feature in the general forum area, but no interest or responses.

ll_l_x_l_ll said:
truth is, nexus s came very late. to an end of an era. nexus S, desire HD, desire Z. all of those are very best. but the very best of old technology.
new phones coming up. some early Jan, some in mid of next year and some at the end of next year. this is very typical.
the smart thing is to know what do YOU really need ?
people who bought the nexus S didnt buy it for its super power. Nexus S isnt the most powerful phone . hell desire HD has more ram in it. they only bought this phone because they are sick of lag fixing, waiting for months and months to get a decent firmware update. Samsung / Sony ericsson / HTC are **** when it comes to updating their firmware " specially Sony, f**k you Sony with your 1.6 firmware on a 2010 phone and waiting till the end of 2010 to finally get 2.1
The people here don't want this. they bought an android for their software not hardware. as far as i can tell. i dont know one game or application that doesnt run super smooth on desire HD/ Nexus S. till the new games/Apps starts to lag and perform bad on these devices, then its the day people should start looking for new phone.
if you are already a nexus S owner, then its stupid to waste your money on a new device that you wont get advantage from it software side. UNLESS there is a hardware feature you wanted on the phone. like for the example the new LG phone has HDMI out and 1080p Video recording. if YOU need that, then yeah the phone is good. BUT if you buy the phone thinking software wise the phone is better, then you are wrong and wasting money.
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GREAT Post ;-)

slowz3r said:
and personally having a dual core phone means nothing if you are running outdated software
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especially since gingerbread isnt supporting dual core processors as of yet. Can you imaging a sweet sweet captivate 2 with touchwiz 7 running dual core on 2.1? I can.(Sarcasm)

I'd keep NS especially I have several top phones (N900, nexus one, MT4, NS) already.

Will the Nexus S 4G Be Too Little, Too Late?

I'm a Sprint customer up for an upgrade soon. I definitely want to switch out this pitiful Palm Pixi for an Android device. The developer community for Android is just so much more motivated and exciting than the webOS community.
As everyone knows, there are two awesome Android devices coming to Sprint in the next few months. The Nexus S 4G and the HTC EVO 3D. I originally had my heart set on the Nexus S, but then I fell in love with the awesome specs of the EVO 3D.
My main question is, I know that there will still be developers working on the Nexus S in a year, but will I regret getting it over the EVO 3D, being that it has lower specs? Do you think the Nexus S is a better choice?

JewishMatt said:
I'm a Sprint customer up for an upgrade soon. I definitely want to switch out this pitiful Palm Pixi for an Android device. The developer community for Android is just so much more motivated and exciting than the webOS community.
As everyone knows, there are two awesome Android devices coming to Sprint in the next few months. The Nexus S 4G and the HTC EVO 3D. I originally had my heart set on the Nexus S, but then I fell in love with the awesome specs of the EVO 3D.
My main question is, I know that there will still be developers working on the Nexus S in a year, but will I regret getting it over the EVO 3D, being that it has lower specs? Do you think the Nexus S is a better choice?
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Hardware wise the Evo 3d is definitely better. I don't think the NS 4g is too late and my reason behind that is because if Google continues rolling out major updates for the NS long before other devices get them then the NS will still remain current regardless of lack of dual core. Software can definitely make an old device feel new.
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JewishMatt said:
I'm a Sprint customer up for an upgrade soon. I definitely want to switch out this pitiful Palm Pixi for an Android device. The developer community for Android is just so much more motivated and exciting than the webOS community.
As everyone knows, there are two awesome Android devices coming to Sprint in the next few months. The Nexus S 4G and the HTC EVO 3D. I originally had my heart set on the Nexus S, but then I fell in love with the awesome specs of the EVO 3D.
My main question is, I know that there will still be developers working on the Nexus S in a year, but will I regret getting it over the EVO 3D, being that it has lower specs? Do you think the Nexus S is a better choice?
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As for the hardware, look at the Atrix...rubbish. EVO 3D should be a hell of a lot better than that though. I've been wanting to pull the trigger on a G2x but I keep holding off because I have a feeling there are going to be some killer uses of the NFC technology built into the Nexus S. If I'm wrong, I've still "stuck" myself with a truly fantastic device. As for getting updates early, it's not all it's chalked up to be so far with the NS. The one I have was stuck on 2.3.1 and I had to manually upgrade. As far as CM7 goes, the version built for the NS pales in comparison to the version I was running on my G2. Too many bugs and usability problems even with the "stable" release.

ScooterG said:
As for the hardware, look at the Atrix...rubbish. EVO 3D should be a hell of a lot better than that though. I've been wanting to pull the trigger on a G2x but I keep holding off because I have a feeling there are going to be some killer uses of the NFC technology built into the Nexus S. If I'm wrong, I've still "stuck" myself with a truly fantastic device. As for getting updates early, it's not all it's chalked up to be so far with the NS. The one I have was stuck on 2.3.1 and I had to manually upgrade. As far as CM7 goes, the version built for the NS pales in comparison to the version I was running on my G2. Too many bugs and usability problems even with the "stable" release.
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So do you think the EVO 3D would be better, based on the next-gen hardware?

Oh it will clearly have better hardware. But for what? There is nothing out there that taxes the Nexus S at this point. It is fast enough.
If you want the 3d or the bigger screen, wait. But don't wait for better performance, there is no point unless you just like running benchmarks all day.
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I'm getting the Nexus S because I've always wanted a dev phone. I'm sitting on 3 full upgrades, so I'll get the Evo 3D this summer as well.

JewishMatt said:
So do you think the EVO 3D would be better, based on the next-gen hardware?
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Who knows, the Evo 3d might be the better phone. It all depends on what your looking for. What exactly do you want in a phone? Most likely the Evo 3d will have more developers than the NS, but the NS software will always be officially up to date and run more smoothly since the software was built specifically for this device. I think since more dual core, etc phones are coming out GOOGLE will continue to roll out major updates for the NS to prove that software plays a major part in smartphones. I personally don't see why we need a dual core phone if our phone is already fast, but that's just me.
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So do you think the EVO 3D would be better, based on the next-gen hardware?
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spec wise yes but the design is crap IMO. ill go with the nexus s anyday.

WiMax sucks imho
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csmall said:
WiMax sucks imho
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way to troll t-mobile boy! thanks for playing!

I hate 3d and HTC, it is all BS just get a Nexus S, the whole idea that the Qualcom dual core is faster than Tegra 2 is false as well. They boasted that their 1.5ghz dual core processor can run circles around a Tegra 2 clocked at 1ghz. Well... OBVIOUSLY. Plus this is the same Evo just with 3d and a slightly faster processor, HTC is bringing fragmentation to a new level, they have software fragmentation within software fragmentation. A great majority of all of HTC's devices will not receive Sense 3.0. Nexus S wins by the software route, and maybe even the hardware one too, HTC cameras never perform as advertised and their screens are crap a lot of the time. Nexus S 4G may be late, but not too late. I would say it's late when you see a Tegra 2 device on Sprint like the Galaxy S2, it runs circles around the Evo 3D for sure, just Google some benchmarks.
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fixxxer2008 said:
way to troll t-mobile boy! thanks for playing!
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It's my view on the technology this phone will use. I don't see what T-Mobile has to do with it and I'm a man.
This phone will use WiMax, if you're in an area that has it, maybe it will make you happy. My experiences with the Evo and WiMax in NY were negative.
Other than that it's a Nexus S on a CDMA network that will let Sprint customers enjoy the pure Google Android experience without switching carriers. That's great. Choice is great.
I personally wouldn't let WiMax factor into my decision if I was on another carrier looking at sprint.
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csmall said:
WiMax sucks imho
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Engineer something better....
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BrianDigital said:
Engineer something better....
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WiMax does suck, LTE IS TEH FUTURE
Lol... xD in all honesty WiMax might make the Evo 3d heavier, and the 3d might have already made it heavy to begin with, who knows I could be wrong.
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the evo3d isnt a big enough advancement for me to ditch my evo for it. if i cant get my hw003 replaced with a 004, ill be buying the nexus s, at retail. no contracts for this guy...or maybe ill get it on a contract...
if the nexus comes SOON, ill jump on it, mostly for the dev aspect and the gpu. if its not coming until first or second week in may, ill wait to handle an evo3d. the evo 3d is physically ugly though, imo and form factor means a lot to me.
i prefer htc to samsung but i may be playing with a ns4g very soon. Now if only I knew WHEN it was coming...cause no public release dates is straight up oscar mayer

For me, the 'getting updates first' perk of the Nexus S is more important than dual-core or 3d. Plus, I'm just sick of the Hero and want a new phone ASAP.

Smokexz said:
I hate 3d and HTC, it is all BS just get a Nexus S, the whole idea that the Qualcom dual core is faster than Tegra 2 is false as well. They boasted that their 1.5ghz dual core processor can run circles around a Tegra 2 clocked at 1ghz. Well... OBVIOUSLY. Plus this is the same Evo just with 3d and a slightly faster processor, HTC is bringing fragmentation to a new level, they have software fragmentation within software fragmentation. A great majority of all of HTC's devices will not receive Sense 3.0. Nexus S wins by the software route, and maybe even the hardware one too, HTC cameras never perform as advertised and their screens are crap a lot of the time. Nexus S 4G may be late, but not too late. I would say it's late when you see a Tegra 2 device on Sprint like the Galaxy S2, it runs circles around the Evo 3D for sure, just Google some benchmarks.
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Obviously your a supporter of the tegra 2, you have a xoom. So of course your going to have a biased opinion. You have little knowledge but a whole lot of hate. To the OP, don't listen to this guy, he seriously is not a good source and just wants to troll. That said these phones aren't even out yet so how can such strong opinions (ok mainly thee evo 3d) be postulated?
I'M IN SPAAAACCCEEEE! I'M IN SPACE! I'M IN SPACE!

Nexus-S is a bad ass device, who cares about dual core right now, I would wait until "Ice cream" update is out, for true dual core support, and then get the newest Android phone out at that time, which will probably be a dual core Nexus-3.0 that will be first phone with "Ice Cream" 3.1.
So get the Nexus-S now and have fun. And upgrade to the true dual core phone Nexus-3.0, when it comes out if you want.

Dual.core sounds tempting but im not a game player on my.phone. So for some the nexus s looks to be a great upgrade.
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A_Guy71 said:
For me, the 'getting updates first' perk of the Nexus S is more important than dual-core or 3d. Plus, I'm just sick of the Hero and want a new phone ASAP.
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You poor soul I had to drop the hero as soon as the evo came out. I swore sometimes having that little guy overclocked actuallt performed worse
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[Q] Best Android Smart Phone

Hi all, I just wanted to post a quick question. I'm looking to upgrade from my sad Kyocera Zio M6000 to a top of the line, best in the market, Android smart phone. I thought I was going to get the HTC Thunderbolt until I spoke with my sister who works for Verizon and she said to hold off because it's having issues right now with switching from 3G to 4G. So I wanted to check here and see what you all think right now is the best, top of the line android smart phone out there. The most powerful, can handle -ANY- games out on the market, can record HD video, has 2 way camera, all the bells and whistles and is going to last me liekly years before I even think about getting a new one. I made a mistake getting my Zio and I've been regretting it for 10 months now and I don't want to make that mistake again. I plan to play game son it, watch movies,.. everything on it .. I appreciate all your responses and thank you for your time! ")
-Seabhac

Samsung Galaxy S 2.

there are loads of good phone out there, but it depends on what you want to do with it, as lot of people root there phone and put custom roms on there.
if i was you i would wait for something like the HTC Pyramid or if you really want a android handset then go for the Samsung Galaxy S 2, but it is upto you mate.

Best Android phone in the market: The one YOU can wait for.
Right now, Galaxy II.
Soon, stay tuned.

If playing games is important to you, though not the best, you should be getting the "Playstation Certified" Xperia Play that opens you up to those Playstation titles on top of the normal Android ones, and you get a near PSP controller that you don't get anywhere else.

Google Nexus S i think

if you can, wait for the Nexus 3

ok maybe I should have qualified this with 1 other thing, a phone I can order service for and setup this week or next. I like the idea of the Galaxy S2, but last I looked it's not out till the fall and I need to replace mine right now lol.

LG p990 i think :O

for me there is no better idea than my desire at the moment

seabhac said:
ok maybe I should have qualified this with 1 other thing, a phone I can order service for and setup this week or next. I like the idea of the Galaxy S2, but last I looked it's not out till the fall and I need to replace mine right now lol.
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I've got one here on my desk, its out in the UK and has been for a couple of weeks..... you might also want to qualify with your country? Guessing your American/Canadian?

SGS II or LG Optimus 2X Speed
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I rather enjoy my Samsung Fascinate; although I did have to manually hack in Android 2.2...

My Desire HD, I think!

why dont u go for honeycomb tabs

HTC Desire HD !!
Is he best smartphone this time !

What are everyone's opinions of the HTC Thunderbolt? I keep considering that one as well due to the fact it seems to be the top of the line right now from Verizon. And yes Monty, I am in the US.

Heard lots of good things about the thunderbolt and it has some pretty great dev support. If I could pick any Verizon phone right now the thunderbolt would be it.
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Thunderbolt FTW!!!!! The dev Support on this beast is amazing
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Galaxy Gio
Well I have this one, more because of size and weight than anything else. Of course all those 4 inch 800x480 + displays and dual cores are better but are also bigger, and tend to drain battery faster.
Anyway I would love to have something in the same size as the Gio but with the "power" of Galaxy SII

[Q] bye bye t-mobile, but what phone to get?

Ok so here's the rub. I literally like almost a month ago got my HTC Glacier and my t mobile service. I'm now done with it. I absolutely love the phone but hate the service here. I'm keeping it as a pay as I go phone just to mess around with android and to help me learn without worrying about bricking my only phone but I am moving to sprint service.
Which means.... Anyone, anyone? New phone!!!
My choices are the
1. HTC EVO 4G (not the shift) which I'm leaving towards.
2. NEXUS S 4G By Google which has a smaller screen than the EVO.
3. Kyocera ECHO ... two screens bro this thing is sweet but...
So anyone with these phones please post a review.
I want a phone with a lot of sport from communities like xda.. One that is as fast as my current phone.. A big screen, no keyboard, just touch screen. A good sharp display, responsive touch screen...
Like I said I'm leaving towards the evo but I've heard good things about the nexus s...
So can you guys please help me decide?
Edit: should I maybe wait for the EVO 3D to come out or is it not worth it

get the Evo4G. Has a great following and is officially supported by CM7 nightlies. I wouldnt bother with the Evo3D because if im not mistaken it has a locked bootloader. (caused the big community uproar and HTC finally saying they have no plans to lock down a android phone again).

I'd say get the EVO4G. My mother has one, and I've fiddled with it a little bit and I'd say its by far the best android phone I've ever touched with my non-worthy hands, besides my Hero of course. Look up some reviews they're everywhere.
First post woot.

I've got an Echo. It's a great phone. Battery life is on par with the Evo and it's not laggy contrary to what most people say.

K so the 3d is locked?
Ok I think I'll go with the evo 4g.. the echo is cool but.. i think the evo will have more community support

HTC has said by email that the 3D will NOT be locked. It's by far the biggest reason behind the whole campaign/whinefest we had. :] If the 3D ships locked with no way to unlock it officially, HTC will get a backlash for worse than what we did before. With Radioshack's tentative 24th release, I would say wait just a little longer... at least until the EVO 4G drops in price on and off-contract.
Edit, I wanted to post source on Peter Chou's confirmation!
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/05/29/htc-evo-3d-bootloader-will-be-unlocked/
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AzumaK said:
HTC has said by email that the 3D will NOT be locked. It's by far the biggest reason behind the whole campaign/whinefest we had. :] If the 3D ships locked with no way to unlock it officially, HTC will get a backlash for worse than what we did before. With Radioshack's tentative 24th release, I would say wait just a little longer... at least until the EVO 4G drops in price on and off-contract.
Edit, I wanted to post source on Peter Chou's confirmation!
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/05/29/htc-evo-3d-bootloader-will-be-unlocked/
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+1 get the evo 3d it is gonna be way worth the wait

I say go with samsung droid charger 4g lte
It have 8 megapixes camera
front face camera 1.3 megapixes
Super Amoled
720p video recording
Mobile AP= Mobile hotspot.
Best carrier service.
4.3 inches screen same as HTC evo.
Htc now a days be making android device that get outdated quickly in 1 year or 6 months. Unlike Samsung and motorola that doesnt.

Wow, nexus S all the way

Nexus s it ok phone, but if u want stock their plenty of option like sony ericcson xperia play on Verizon is stock gingerbread or Nexus one. you can hack galaxy phone which is the same as nexus s to get stock roms in it...

I am getting Sprint for sure. They are the only carrier I haven't had problems with. Cuz I haven't used them. I want an HTC phone the most. I've used a Motorola droid2 global and I flicking hate it. I think I'll wait for the evo3d.

Hah, you'll have problems with customer service. :X
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Sprint phone suck not trying to flame them get with a&tt or Verizon for high end android phone.

which phone would be the best to get?

so i am coming from sprint with a Samsung Epic 4g (we dont have 4g in des moines ia) and well i have to get a phone on the 16th and the phones i am lookin at are
Samsung droid charge,HTC thunderbolt , and the Motorola droid x2
and im wondering which phone would be the best to get? i dont think 4g matters as there is no 4g here and i mostly use my phone for emulators,email,IM,texting,and alot of web, what would be the best phone to get? i dont take pics and well i never use video chat before for a front facing cam on my epic
what phone would u guys choose?
also im a root user and love flashing roms

i mean verzion lol wow

Droid x 2!
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Ive tried all three i recommend the droid charge
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icebear8 said:
so i am coming from sprint with a Samsung Epic 4g (we dont have 4g in des moines ia) and well i have to get a phone on the 16th and the phones i am lookin at are
Samsung droid charge,HTC thunderbolt , and the Motorola droid x2
and im wondering which phone would be the best to get? i dont think 4g matters as there is no 4g here and i mostly use my phone for emulators,email,IM,texting,and alot of web, what would be the best phone to get? i dont take pics and well i never use video chat before for a front facing cam on my epic
what phone would u guys choose?
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I'm on Sprint but I work at a Verizon retail store. I've used all the phones. The Droid X2 is not much of any upgrade from the Droid X. It's basically a Droid X without a camera button, and with a dual core CPU. Not really worth it, especially since it has an encrypted bootloader. I really like the Thunderbolt (I have an Evo), but if you're going to play a lot of games, get the Droid Charge. It has the same (or slightly better) CPU that's in the Epic, and the Thunderbolt doesn't quite compare in terms of speed. There's also the LG Revolution, which is Bing'd out, but is still a great phone. Personally, if you're going to be gaming, I say go for the Droid Charge.

i saw that the droid x2 has a duel core and well my epic has the same cpu as the charge is there a BIG speed difference in these phones? even after root and everything clean from crapware?
i saw the charge is 299$ where the droid x2 is 199$ is it rly worth the 100$ to get a single core cpu? i know the screen is bad ass on the charge but i heard the x2 is pretty darn good

Don't forget that there is more to the phone than fancy hardware. Droid X2 might be nice, but it still runs moto blur, a UI that often is rated as one of the worst ones of Android. I personally remember playing around with the original Droid X at the VZW store months back and the model on display was lagging from menu to menu.
Software > Hardware, at least in most cases.

icebear8 said:
i saw that the droid x2 has a duel core and well my epic has the same cpu as the charge is there a BIG speed difference in these phones? even after root and everything clean from crapware?
i saw the charge is 299$ where the droid x2 is 199$ is it rly worth the 100$ to get a single core cpu? i know the screen is bad ass on the charge but i heard the x2 is pretty darn good
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I won't lie, the latest version of Motoblur on the Droid X / Droid X2 is not bad at all (though a little laggy on the home screen). But the thing has an encrypted bootloader, which means you can't flash custom kernels, which means your ROM selection will be very limited. Also, the Gingerbread update also introduced something retarded: If you root and try to tether without a tethering plan, you will be redirected to a Verizon page to buy the plan every time you try to load a website.
I haven't used the Droid Charge enough to see differences from the Epic other than they use an orange/brown theme instead of blue on the Epic. Also, the Charge has 4G, so you'll be future-proof. On the other hand, the Droid X2 is dual-core so you'll be future-proofed in terms of performance (Android 2.3 and under don't make use of both cores). I'm really not sure how well it compares, or rather WILL compare against the GPU of the Charge, which is hard to beat.
In terms of price, I think the Droid X2 is priced pretty fairly. The Charge on the other hand is a $100 more and, besides HDMI output and 4G LTE, doesn't really add much to your Epic. In the end it's really up to you. You always have 30 days to change the phone. Drop into a Verizon store and try them out. But keep in mind that Quadrant Standard isn't optimized for dual cores and Neocore is optimized for Qualcomm (ie Snapdragon) chipsets.

i did forget to add a phone.... the sony xperia play i do play a ALOT of ps1 emualtor on my epic.... how is the xperia play? i mean i forgot it was even out lol im use to the 4inch screen but if its bad ass for games and then that maybe be the phone to get

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But keep in mind that Quadrant Standard isn't optimized for dual cores and Neocore is optimized for Qualcomm (ie Snapdragon) chipsets.
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Would someone mind explaining to a n00b what the above means? I too am considering the Thunderbolt (or maybe the Evo 3D).
TIA

he is talkin about benchmarkn its nothing really just a score on how fast is the phone and stuff but some programs are more into other CPUS then others so give more points to the slower cpu

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i did forget to add a phone.... the sony xperia play i do play a ALOT of ps1 emualtor on my epic.... how is the xperia play? i mean i forgot it was even out lol im use to the 4inch screen but if its bad ass for games and then that maybe be the phone to get
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I've played with the Xperia play. The good thing about it is that it's mainly stock Android (no skin, but it does have extra Sony Widgets and some crapware). It comes with Crash Bandicoot (the PS1 version) and some Bruce Lee game, among other games. It played pretty smooth, but it only has a 1GHz Snapdragon, so nothing too impressive. If you want a video with a good benchmark, watch this one. It even compares it to other phones (ps the Optimus 2X has a Tegra 2):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_SyXQtcTmQ&feature=player_detailpage#t=102s
If you can hold off, the Galaxy S II, which is the most powerful Android phone out right now, will be coming to Sprint, Verizon, and AT&T anywhere from July to August. It's all unofficial as of now, but they're definitely coming because they've been named (AT&T Attain, Sprint Within, Verizon Function).
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Would someone mind explaining to a n00b what the above means? I too am considering the Thunderbolt (or maybe the Evo 3D).
TIA
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Quadrant Standard and Neocore are benchmarking apps used to show the CPU and GPU capablities of a phone. The issue is that neither will give you an accurate result of the raw power of a phone.

Avoid Moto ATM
I used to be a staunch supporter of Motorola phones, but in the last couple years, especially with Android OS, they've been very lackluster to me. I support the phones in our office, and we've got several versions of Motos here that give us all sorts of issues. Its amazing what features that Moto manages to turn off natively that all other phones seem to have, plus they go out of their way to make it difficult to update to custom ROMs, etc.

I would definitely go with the TBolt, I've had mine for a couple months now and came from a N1 i was using with iWireless and love the TBolt, Rooted and running Gingerbread, everything works great

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what phone would u guys choose? also im a root user and love flashing roms
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I have a Tbolt & I love it. Mainly because (1) it has 4G and (2) the *very* active dev community here. You may not be concerned with 4G now, but it may come to your area before you are allowed to upgrade phones, so that may be worth considering. Also, some of the TB kernels allow overclocking up to 1.92ghz. The DX2 will proly still give better emulator performance, but I'd bet an overclocked Tbolt would emulate better than a stock Droid Charge (an o/c'd Charge would be a different story. Idk if you can even o/c a Charge, I don't follow the Charge threads). The last time I checked the Charge rom dev section, it was pretty sparse. That will change as more devs get their hands on it, but for the moment you can't get flash happy with a Charge. The Charge's amoled screen is freaking gorgeous. There is nothing else like a Samsung amoled. Colors are really vivid & bright and black is *black*, not dark grey like on a lcd. The Charge's battery life is better than the Tbolt too. I don't know much about the DX2 but I do know that if you like playing with custom roms & kernels, the DX2's bootloader will be very frustrating. I have never messed with Moto Blur but the majority of comments I've read about it are not positive. Ultimately it's a matter of tradeoffs & what is most important to you. If you want the best emulator performance & don't mind giving up custom roms, go for DX2. If you want an awesome screen & can wait a few weeks for rom development to pan out, get the Charge. If you've gotta have custom roms/kernels *right now* & don't mind lackluster battery life, check out the Tbolt.
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bejahnel said:
I would definitely go with the TBolt, I've had mine for a couple months now and came from a N1 i was using with iWireless and love the TBolt, Rooted and running Gingerbread, everything works great
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I have a Tbolt & I love it. Mainly because (1) it has 4G and (2) the *very* active dev community here.
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If you want an awesome screen & can wait a few weeks for rom development to pan out, get the Charge. If you've gotta have custom roms/kernels *right now* & don't mind lackluster battery life, check out the Tbolt.
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Thunderbolt now or wait for Galaxy S II or Evo 3D?
Will the Bolt be outdated soon with dual processors out now? I'm in no real hurry and can wait a few months so I'm thinking of waiting for Galaxy S II since I've read it is going to be open source now.
In Los Angeles will it matter whether I'm on Sprint or Verizon as far as 4G performance goes? The speed tests I've found are outdated and one listed Verizon as the very worst performing network but they tested in Columbus, OH and people posted that it wasn't an accurate test because of that.

I would go with the thunderbolt, and i just did a few days ago actually. It has the most dev support on here and I hate moto with a passion so the choice was easy for me.
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