so i am coming from sprint with a Samsung Epic 4g (we dont have 4g in des moines ia) and well i have to get a phone on the 16th and the phones i am lookin at are
Samsung droid charge,HTC thunderbolt , and the Motorola droid x2
and im wondering which phone would be the best to get? i dont think 4g matters as there is no 4g here and i mostly use my phone for emulators,email,IM,texting,and alot of web, what would be the best phone to get? i dont take pics and well i never use video chat before for a front facing cam on my epic
what phone would u guys choose?
also im a root user and love flashing roms
i mean verzion lol wow
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icebear8 said:
so i am coming from sprint with a Samsung Epic 4g (we dont have 4g in des moines ia) and well i have to get a phone on the 16th and the phones i am lookin at are
Samsung droid charge,HTC thunderbolt , and the Motorola droid x2
and im wondering which phone would be the best to get? i dont think 4g matters as there is no 4g here and i mostly use my phone for emulators,email,IM,texting,and alot of web, what would be the best phone to get? i dont take pics and well i never use video chat before for a front facing cam on my epic
what phone would u guys choose?
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I'm on Sprint but I work at a Verizon retail store. I've used all the phones. The Droid X2 is not much of any upgrade from the Droid X. It's basically a Droid X without a camera button, and with a dual core CPU. Not really worth it, especially since it has an encrypted bootloader. I really like the Thunderbolt (I have an Evo), but if you're going to play a lot of games, get the Droid Charge. It has the same (or slightly better) CPU that's in the Epic, and the Thunderbolt doesn't quite compare in terms of speed. There's also the LG Revolution, which is Bing'd out, but is still a great phone. Personally, if you're going to be gaming, I say go for the Droid Charge.
i saw that the droid x2 has a duel core and well my epic has the same cpu as the charge is there a BIG speed difference in these phones? even after root and everything clean from crapware?
i saw the charge is 299$ where the droid x2 is 199$ is it rly worth the 100$ to get a single core cpu? i know the screen is bad ass on the charge but i heard the x2 is pretty darn good
Don't forget that there is more to the phone than fancy hardware. Droid X2 might be nice, but it still runs moto blur, a UI that often is rated as one of the worst ones of Android. I personally remember playing around with the original Droid X at the VZW store months back and the model on display was lagging from menu to menu.
Software > Hardware, at least in most cases.
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i saw that the droid x2 has a duel core and well my epic has the same cpu as the charge is there a BIG speed difference in these phones? even after root and everything clean from crapware?
i saw the charge is 299$ where the droid x2 is 199$ is it rly worth the 100$ to get a single core cpu? i know the screen is bad ass on the charge but i heard the x2 is pretty darn good
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I won't lie, the latest version of Motoblur on the Droid X / Droid X2 is not bad at all (though a little laggy on the home screen). But the thing has an encrypted bootloader, which means you can't flash custom kernels, which means your ROM selection will be very limited. Also, the Gingerbread update also introduced something retarded: If you root and try to tether without a tethering plan, you will be redirected to a Verizon page to buy the plan every time you try to load a website.
I haven't used the Droid Charge enough to see differences from the Epic other than they use an orange/brown theme instead of blue on the Epic. Also, the Charge has 4G, so you'll be future-proof. On the other hand, the Droid X2 is dual-core so you'll be future-proofed in terms of performance (Android 2.3 and under don't make use of both cores). I'm really not sure how well it compares, or rather WILL compare against the GPU of the Charge, which is hard to beat.
In terms of price, I think the Droid X2 is priced pretty fairly. The Charge on the other hand is a $100 more and, besides HDMI output and 4G LTE, doesn't really add much to your Epic. In the end it's really up to you. You always have 30 days to change the phone. Drop into a Verizon store and try them out. But keep in mind that Quadrant Standard isn't optimized for dual cores and Neocore is optimized for Qualcomm (ie Snapdragon) chipsets.
i did forget to add a phone.... the sony xperia play i do play a ALOT of ps1 emualtor on my epic.... how is the xperia play? i mean i forgot it was even out lol im use to the 4inch screen but if its bad ass for games and then that maybe be the phone to get
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But keep in mind that Quadrant Standard isn't optimized for dual cores and Neocore is optimized for Qualcomm (ie Snapdragon) chipsets.
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Would someone mind explaining to a n00b what the above means? I too am considering the Thunderbolt (or maybe the Evo 3D).
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he is talkin about benchmarkn its nothing really just a score on how fast is the phone and stuff but some programs are more into other CPUS then others so give more points to the slower cpu
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i did forget to add a phone.... the sony xperia play i do play a ALOT of ps1 emualtor on my epic.... how is the xperia play? i mean i forgot it was even out lol im use to the 4inch screen but if its bad ass for games and then that maybe be the phone to get
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I've played with the Xperia play. The good thing about it is that it's mainly stock Android (no skin, but it does have extra Sony Widgets and some crapware). It comes with Crash Bandicoot (the PS1 version) and some Bruce Lee game, among other games. It played pretty smooth, but it only has a 1GHz Snapdragon, so nothing too impressive. If you want a video with a good benchmark, watch this one. It even compares it to other phones (ps the Optimus 2X has a Tegra 2):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_SyXQtcTmQ&feature=player_detailpage#t=102s
If you can hold off, the Galaxy S II, which is the most powerful Android phone out right now, will be coming to Sprint, Verizon, and AT&T anywhere from July to August. It's all unofficial as of now, but they're definitely coming because they've been named (AT&T Attain, Sprint Within, Verizon Function).
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Would someone mind explaining to a n00b what the above means? I too am considering the Thunderbolt (or maybe the Evo 3D).
TIA
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Quadrant Standard and Neocore are benchmarking apps used to show the CPU and GPU capablities of a phone. The issue is that neither will give you an accurate result of the raw power of a phone.
Avoid Moto ATM
I used to be a staunch supporter of Motorola phones, but in the last couple years, especially with Android OS, they've been very lackluster to me. I support the phones in our office, and we've got several versions of Motos here that give us all sorts of issues. Its amazing what features that Moto manages to turn off natively that all other phones seem to have, plus they go out of their way to make it difficult to update to custom ROMs, etc.
I would definitely go with the TBolt, I've had mine for a couple months now and came from a N1 i was using with iWireless and love the TBolt, Rooted and running Gingerbread, everything works great
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what phone would u guys choose? also im a root user and love flashing roms
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I have a Tbolt & I love it. Mainly because (1) it has 4G and (2) the *very* active dev community here. You may not be concerned with 4G now, but it may come to your area before you are allowed to upgrade phones, so that may be worth considering. Also, some of the TB kernels allow overclocking up to 1.92ghz. The DX2 will proly still give better emulator performance, but I'd bet an overclocked Tbolt would emulate better than a stock Droid Charge (an o/c'd Charge would be a different story. Idk if you can even o/c a Charge, I don't follow the Charge threads). The last time I checked the Charge rom dev section, it was pretty sparse. That will change as more devs get their hands on it, but for the moment you can't get flash happy with a Charge. The Charge's amoled screen is freaking gorgeous. There is nothing else like a Samsung amoled. Colors are really vivid & bright and black is *black*, not dark grey like on a lcd. The Charge's battery life is better than the Tbolt too. I don't know much about the DX2 but I do know that if you like playing with custom roms & kernels, the DX2's bootloader will be very frustrating. I have never messed with Moto Blur but the majority of comments I've read about it are not positive. Ultimately it's a matter of tradeoffs & what is most important to you. If you want the best emulator performance & don't mind giving up custom roms, go for DX2. If you want an awesome screen & can wait a few weeks for rom development to pan out, get the Charge. If you've gotta have custom roms/kernels *right now* & don't mind lackluster battery life, check out the Tbolt.
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I would definitely go with the TBolt, I've had mine for a couple months now and came from a N1 i was using with iWireless and love the TBolt, Rooted and running Gingerbread, everything works great
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I have a Tbolt & I love it. Mainly because (1) it has 4G and (2) the *very* active dev community here.
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If you want an awesome screen & can wait a few weeks for rom development to pan out, get the Charge. If you've gotta have custom roms/kernels *right now* & don't mind lackluster battery life, check out the Tbolt.
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Thunderbolt now or wait for Galaxy S II or Evo 3D?
Will the Bolt be outdated soon with dual processors out now? I'm in no real hurry and can wait a few months so I'm thinking of waiting for Galaxy S II since I've read it is going to be open source now.
In Los Angeles will it matter whether I'm on Sprint or Verizon as far as 4G performance goes? The speed tests I've found are outdated and one listed Verizon as the very worst performing network but they tested in Columbus, OH and people posted that it wasn't an accurate test because of that.
I would go with the thunderbolt, and i just did a few days ago actually. It has the most dev support on here and I hate moto with a passion so the choice was easy for me.
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Is anyone gonna complain about your phone to get this one for and early upgrade
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I tried it and they said it is actually up to the manufacturer if they want to switch you to another phone, funny story though the guy was like you rate an upgrade anyway.
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Good luck with that. Verizon can be pretty stiff. They usually wont consider swapping to a new phone unless you have like 3 problems or so with it and have to have at least 3 exchanges with a certain period of time.
Threaten to change carriers , worked for me a couple of years ago.
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Threaten to change carriers , worked for me a couple of years ago.
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Thats hit or miss, they might just call your bluff.
best bet for OP is to pay full price for phone.
Then sell the fascinate for a few hundred and maybe pay a little more then new contract price.
You have to do with a store mgr. or a district mgr. , not a csr.
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Yeah...going with TNS207's suggestion....
But the Tbolt at full price and sell your Fascinate.
I'm due an upgrade but with so many devices coming down the pike I have convinced myself to pay the full price to avoid signing the 2 year contract. I've already got my DInc and all its accessories sold for $300.
It's the best move for me.
Hey , I understand . I'm a sales rep and don't have much trouble talking managers into seeing my way.
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I have two lines so I have an open upgrade but I am moving away from the fascinate the second this guy is on the street. I am currently working in a small town though, but I will be at verizon at 7am on the 24th to get one, hopefully being a small town and all they will have it in stock on launch day.
Besides the 4g and the camera....the fascinate has better hardware. Better CPU and GPU.
Nothing a Thunderolt can do that a fascinate cant?
Thats how android is built right now. Hardware specs mean nothing till apps can take advantage of it. Stick with your fascinate or get an iphone to see a true difference.
If not wait it out till some real good applications come out. Dont fall for the hype of the dual core processor either. Whats the point look at the games the iphone runs, amazing...nd its the same same cpu and a step below in gpu vs your fascinate. But those apps arent available for you fascinate so it makes it a moot point.
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Besides the 4g and the camera....the fascinate has better hardware. Better CPU and GPU.
Nothing a Thunderolt can do that a fascinate cant?
Thats how android is built right now. Hardware specs mean nothing till apps can take advantage of it. Stick with your fascinate or get an iphone to see a true difference.
If not wait it out till some real good applications come out. Dont fall for the hype of the dual core processor either. Whats the point look at the games the iphone runs, amazing...nd its the same same cpu and a step below in gpu vs your fascinate. But those apps arent available for you fascinate so it makes it a moot point.
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The Samsung Galaxy S are horrible. They are all laggy and slow. My bro and friend have them, one has vibrant and other has fascinate and both are slow as hell.
Wirefly did a youtube quadrant test on the TB and it scored a 1950.
Pretty darn fast.
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yeah, the bionic is only getting 2600 stock, but its locked so it will stay at that speed. We could see 3000+ with the TB after mods
Refer to my chart, the new TB has a better CPU and GPU
http://androidandme.com/2010/10/news/3dmarkmobile-gpu-showdown-adreno-205-vs-powervr-sgx540/
Galaxy s are laggy because of touchwiz!!!!
And the androidandme.com chart was accurate but the galaxy s was running 2.1 android!!! JIT doesnt play well with the hummingbird processor
Also for some reason android is built more with the snapdragon in mind!! Android cant take advantage of dualcore chips yeat either!!
The galaxy s line is laggy due to the filesystem it uses.
Fast or not, the TB will be a great phone just like the Evo and Inc before it, thats the bottom line for me, its not about milliseconds being faster or having crazy hardware that we cant harness. Out of the box the TB will be faster than a modified fascinate and HTC has better support for their phones meaning 2.3 and 2.4 updates, not to mentions the variety from xda.
And good HTC phones seem to have a lot more roms than the other brands.
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And good HTC phones seem to have a lot more roms than the other brands.
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Plus the phone is potentially already hacked as long as they don't change anything that would complicate the exploit(s) discovered..
Its too late in the game for HTC or VZW to change something, they came out with the exploit after the delay was issued, they would have to change 100,000 phones or more, it would take months.
I just switched back to ATT from Sprint (Evo 4g) and bought the Inspire with the intent of returning it next month when the Atrix comes out.
I seem to, however, really like the Inspire and am wondering if the Atrix is really worth the additional $100. Besides the higher res (yet smaller) screen, why would I change to the Atrix? Sure it has a dual core Tegra2, but Froyo doesn't even use 2 cores so what am I getting?
I know that the Atrix has a locked bootloader but that isn't a huge dealbreaker for me.
Thoughts?
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I just switched back to ATT from Sprint (Evo 4g) and bought the Inspire with the intent of returning it next month when the Atrix comes out.
I seem to, however, really like the Inspire and am wondering if the Atrix is really worth the additional $100. Besides the higher res (yet smaller) screen, why would I change to the Atrix? Sure it has a dual core Tegra2, but Froyo doesn't even use 2 cores so what am I getting?
I know that the Atrix has a locked bootloader but that isn't a huge dealbreaker for me.
Thoughts?
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Honestly I can't say I'm a fan of pentile screens like the Atrix has. Not to mention I read somewhere(cannot verify accuracy)that the Dalvik VM system on Froyo at the very least does not support multithreading so a dual core won't make any difference yet.
Plus, I have had bad experiences with Moto. I'm pretty happy with HTC so far.
Apps built with the NDK can take advantage of the dual core processor. The processor, resolution, ffc, hdmi, and 1080p recording all sound great, but software is more important to me. The Captivate tought me that. Great hardware doesn't mean crap if the software sucks. Sense is a lot better than Motoblur and the locked bootloader downright sucks. HTC is also slightly better about updating their software. Oh, and the dock and laptop are a complete ripoff.
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...software is more important to me. The Captivate tought me that. Great hardware doesn't mean crap if the software sucks. Sense is a lot better than Motoblur and the locked bootloader downright sucks.
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Yes, this. Very much this.
I really Like HTC to. Don't really care about Sense since I use Launcher Pro. I guess its a matter of wait and see.
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I just switched back to ATT from Sprint (Evo 4g) and bought the Inspire with the intent of returning it next month when the Atrix comes out.
I seem to, however, really like the Inspire and am wondering if the Atrix is really worth the additional $100. Besides the higher res (yet smaller) screen, why would I change to the Atrix? Sure it has a dual core Tegra2, but Froyo doesn't even use 2 cores so what am I getting?
I know that the Atrix has a locked bootloader but that isn't a huge dealbreaker for me.
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I just did the exact same thing, still waiting for the inspire to arrive though. I came from the Evo and I love HTC products, I think I'll keep it afterall and wait for the next HTC flagship phone.
The Atrix is more future proof than the Inspire with dual core and a gig of ram. Froyo may not take full advantage of dual core, but how about future builds? Gaming will certainly be smoother and with that huge battery I should be able to get through a day of heavy usage. I can't seem to do that with my Inspire unless I turn off most of the things I like about the phone. It's a tough choice, but blur doesn't bother me so I may make the jump.
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Apps built with the NDK can take advantage of the dual core processor. The processor, resolution, ffc, hdmi, and 1080p recording all sound great, but software is more important to me. The Captivate tought me that. Great hardware doesn't mean crap if the software sucks. Sense is a lot better than Motoblur and the locked bootloader downright sucks. HTC is also slightly better about updating their software. Oh, and the dock and laptop are a complete ripoff.
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Quoted for troof. HTC is the manufacturer who seems to get it right.
It looks like the difference that the inspire has a .3 inch bigger/lower resolution screen screen, 8GB less memory, higher MP camera (8MP), has digital compass, has HTC sence (maybe better than momto blur?), has fm radio.
I guess it just depends on what features are important to you. My only real question is about the insire's FM radio. Is it actually functioning out of the box or did att disable it?
Go over to the development threads and check out all of the Roms for the Inspire. Then immediately leave because the Atrix will never have that good of a development community. Crippled software on overpowered hardware will never be as good as quality/variety of software on perfectly capable hardware. Dual core isn't standard yet and the benefits of it have yet to be implemented effectively. When we're running custom roms of the next Android update with an optimized kernel, the Atrix will be stuck waiting for an official update with nothing more than a glorified theme.
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Go over to the development threads and check out all of the Roms for the Inspire. Then immediately leave because the Atrix will never have that good of a development community. Crippled software on overpowered hardware will never be as good as quality/variety of software on perfectly capable hardware. Dual core isn't standard yet and the benefits of it have yet to be implemented effectively. When we're running custom roms of the next Android update with an optimized kernel, the Atrix will be stuck waiting for an official update with nothing more than a glorified theme.
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I just exchanged my Atrix for an Inspire yesterday.
After rooting and unlocking, adding CM7 and the 1.8Ghz kernel, I can say with 100% confidence that I made the right choice switching.
Although the screen on the Inspire is lower resolution, it looks amazing, much more so than that of the Atrix.
I think everyone over there in the Atrix forum is coming to the conclusion that their phones will probably never see an unlocked bootloader, and are jumping ship because of it.
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Although the screen on the Inspire is lower resolution, it looks amazing, much more so than that of the Atrix.
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^This.....I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks so. I think the Atrix display looks horrible. I continually ponder how more people don't make mention of it. I came from a Captivate (which I still have) and the Inspire before I tried the Atrix and its quality leaves A LOT to be desired.
I still have both devices. And I had decided to return the atrix once or twice but cannot pull the trigger because of the hardware. Everything else, is better on the inspire. I feel like I have to force myself to like the Atrix. I've given it a try (a day's run) and each time I went back to the inspire. Hm, I'll see how it plays out.
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I am extremely confident with my decision to get the inspire. I love the screen and man this thing is fast. Even though the atrix has better specs I really think that the inspire, once rooted and oc'ed is way faster. I pop in to the atrix forums once in a while and it just solidifies my confidence that I got the right phone. Everyone over there is complaining about one thing or another, which wouldnt be that big of deal because Android is so customizable, but that isnt the case with MOTO because of the locked bootloader. Also who really wants to have to wait for official updates? Especially from companies like MOTO and Samsung. I am happy.
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Depends what you are looking for. If you are looking for a phone that under-performs but looks great on a stat sheet - Atrix is for you. I had nothing but hate for that phone after just 3 days of using it. Its sluggish, the UI is clunky, animations were horribly slow.
Inspire has a far better screen believe it or not. It has no pixelation that I can even see (atrix had a ton) and the colors are far far far more accurate. The atrix couldnt even do the color yellow.
Atrix - 2/10 stars
Inspire - 9/10
So far on the att website users averaged give both phones 4 out of 5. I have weighed the pros and cons after playing with both of them for about an hour and believe I will go with the inspire for its 4.3 inch screen, faster and more accurate acquisition of GPS during my tests, 8MP camera, FM radio and good old HTC hardware.
I did notice an issue with the inspire that I was playing with where the pull down screen that shows running or recently launched programs was slow to drag left and right. Anyone else notice this?
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I did notice an issue with the inspire that I was playing with where the pull down screen that shows running or recently launched programs was slow to drag left and right. Anyone else notice this?
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I haven't experienced this.
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So far on the att website users averaged give both phones 4 out of 5. I have weighed the pros and cons after playing with both of them for about an hour and believe I will go with the inspire for its 4.3 inch screen, faster and more accurate acquisition of GPS during my tests, 8MP camera, FM radio and good old HTC hardware.
I did notice an issue with the inspire that I was playing with where the pull down screen that shows running or recently launched programs was slow to drag left and right. Anyone else notice this?
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Using RCMixHD and have no issue with this, its super slick and smooth.
You might want to take the custom Rom route anyways to maximize the performance and features of the phone.
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Does the inspire have any sort of tv out capabilities
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had atrix for 3 days and for all 3 days tried to full my self i like the phone... nope didnt work. second day into.. dead pixels exchanged to find screen off to the left and actually twisted another one and the same problem, overall the qhd screen is horrible just go ahead and search something in google and look at the smaller text you'll see the pixels are missing . motorola screwed this one completely ; the phone really feels like was put together in some tiny village in 3th world country. side by side inspire feels smoother faster ( ain't no joke) and with iphone build quality.the last feature got my girlfriends attention and trust me she's one of this iphone4 owners that no matter what point you'll make that makes android shine vs iphone she'll tell ya i don't care. and i dont care if the atrix is better with games , pointless feature if u ask me... ill stick with my ps3 for real gaming experience. would be nice to have hdmi out and louder speaker otherwise thats pretty much what's missing. inspire much better phone.
Why would you Inspire people recommended the Inspire over the Atrix?
I'm kinda curious. I have seen the 1.8Ghz OC kernel, and Cyanogenmod 7 on the forums but haven't been able to find a video or anything. Can anyone compare this to the experience of a stock Atrix? I want to believe that a Inspire w/ CM7 @ 1.8Ghz would be scorchingly fast.
I'm sure the Atrix battery lasts nearly 2X the inspire overclocked like that, but I don't mind carrying around a 2nd battery for a phone. I always had 2 with my OG Droid
the fact that it doesn't have blurr should be the main reason. Alone the inspire is such a mod-able phone its not even funny. Performance wise from playing with a friends atrix and mine (not o.c.). Mine still ran smoother.
Its all about what the person wants. Specs or customization.
Not over clocked I get a good day day half of heavy use.
There have been a few devs who left the atrix for the inspire, the inspire has bigger dev community. As far as 1.8 goes, I don't think thats realistic for everyday performance. 1.5 is the performance sweet spot for most.
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I had an inspire, got rid of it BC I was a noob with android and the battery wasn't working out. Bought an atrix, and was disgusted after about a week to the point that I didn't care if the battery OJ the inspire was small - I just wanted it back. Sold my atrix, bought a new inspire and never looked back. The phone is seriously just 100 better. L
The kicker is that with certain custom roms, cm7 being the best, the battery life is equal to that of the atrix.
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yeah i bought the Galaxy S because of the "specs" Let's just say i learned my lesson on that... For me it's all about the Dev Support, and as you can see the Inspire 4G has LOTS!!!
On a side note.. I actually checked which phone was supported by CyanogenMod before purchasing..
I believe that HTC is the way Android is meant to be..
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Why would you Inspire people recommended the Inspire over the Atrix?
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mmm....
$199 - Atrix
- 79 - Inspire4G
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$129 Difference.
That's (2) weeks worth of Gasoline! That's what made up mind in a heartbeat!
Inspire vs Atrix
A stock Inspire runs very smoothly and very quickly. The Atrix is very fast because of the dual core processor, but that's pretty much it. Motoblur slows the phone down quite a bit and while it does seem to maintain it's responsiveness despite some lag, as I said it's still pretty laggy. HTC Sense isn't just an overlay on top of Froyo, it actually seems to enhance the experience of using an Android phone because everything seems to run so much smoother. Gaming on the Inspire isnt as good as it is on the Atrix because it's not dual core, but games for the most part run very smoothly (I've played quake 3 on mine with no issues). But yea, if you're just looking for speed, the Inspire is more than capable. It's already very fast underclocked, but its very fast overclocked as well.
This vid may help u decide if u should keep the Atrix or not. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmFKACFIu1s
Atrix disappoints
I work at a Best Buy and a lot of people bought the Atrix on release day at my store. I, however, wanted to wait and see, plus being a huge HTC fan the Inspire was really desirable (pun intended). So yeah I got an Inspire while one of my co-workers in the Geek Squad has an Atrix, and we go back and forth. "My resolution is higher!" he says, "My screen is more vibrant and larger" I say... Then his phone lags and doesn't scroll smoothly and I laugh. Speed test side-by-side I blow him out of the water, it really ticked him off when I connected his Atrix to my 3G hotspot and Speed tested quicker than his Atrix alone. Plus with the Atrix you have to rely on Motorola to release updates, and there is no way to put CM7 or another custom ROM (as of now due to encrypted bootloader)... Not to mention the version of 2.2 on there doesn't utilize the second core (if I am incorrect let me know). Sure he can hook it up to a TV and play around, but that isn't useful...
Get rid of the atrix. For a dual core phone that thing is a straight up embarrassment to Android. No ones kidding when they say the inspire is faster with no overclock. Doing side by side tests of inspire (stock) vs both atrixs I had, the inspire won EVERY speed test I gave it. With an overclock, its not even close.
And yes the atrix IS utilizing both cores with that version of froyo that's its shipped with, and with no possible way to ever flash a kernel, don't expect it to get much faster than it is right now
Edit- and my battery life actually isn't to bad at 1.8 surprisingly. It thought it was gonna be really bad, but it turned out to be pretty good.
Update:
Bought a brand new Inspire today!
Thanks for the input everyone!
PS. If anyone is interested in my Atrix it is for sale. $400
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in terms of stock one of the reasons people prefer the inspire is because of the htc sense UI it gives a smoother and better experience with andriod
motorola's UI is lik a rip off of htc from wat ive seen of it at least
lonehawk2k4 said:
in terms of stock one of the reasons people prefer the inspire is because of the htc sense UI it gives a smoother and better experience with andriod
motorola's UI is lik a rip off of htc from wat ive seen of it at least
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If it was even close to a rip off it would be passable.., but its far from it.
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Why would you Inspire people recommended the Inspire over the Atrix?
I'm kinda curious. I have seen the 1.8Ghz OC kernel, and Cyanogenmod 7 on the forums but haven't been able to find a video or anything. Can anyone compare this to the experience of a stock Atrix? I want to believe that a Inspire w/ CM7 @ 1.8Ghz would be scorchingly fast.
I'm sure the Atrix battery lasts nearly 2X the inspire overclocked like that, but I don't mind carrying around a 2nd battery for a phone. I always had 2 with my OG Droid
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The Atrix is from Motorola, for the main reason. Blur is horrible and Motorola locks their phones down to where modding just isn't as plentiful as an HTC phone. On paper, the Atrix is a must-have device. But in reality, it is a buggy Motorola phone. The build quality of the Atrix seems to be excellent, though.
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The Atrix is from Motorola, for the main reason. Blur is horrible and Motorola locks their phones down to where modding just isn't as plentiful as an HTC phone. On paper, the Atrix is a must-have device. But in reality, it is a buggy Motorola phone. The build quality of the Atrix seems to be excellent, though.
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Its not great build quality. It does have some heft to it, but the back creaks and it is entirely plastic. The only good thing is the whole back can be replaced. The fingerprint sensors also aren't aligned or centered... they look like they were thrown in there.
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I had both the inspire and the artix
my atrix experience wasn't terrible but that might have been because of the fact i was rooted running gingerblur the best rom out right now for the atrix... i enjoyed the atrix's great battery life and fingerprint scanner but the build quality wasn't good and felt cheap to me
in my opinion if your running a stock atrix with no intention of flashing a rom to it your going to get annoyed and bored of blur..
that being said sense isn't much better for me im much more a fan of stock android or miui actually is pretty good to. I would personally get rid of the atrix and try the inspire the screen is bigger and brighter in my opinion and has a lot more of rom development the atrix
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Its not great build quality. It does have some heft to it, but the back creaks and it is entirely plastic. The only good thing is the whole back can be replaced. The fingerprint sensors also aren't aligned or centered... they look like they were thrown in there.
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QFT. I couldn't stand how badly my back cover creaked. Nothing about that phone screamed quality to me at all, software or hardware wise.
locked bootloader= no reason to buy EVER. Even with the cool dual core you can't overclock or do any cool **** w/ roms. On top of that motoblur is a piece of junk.
Hello,
I have always had Blackberry phones (a Pearl and a Tour) and have really enjoyed them. However, in July I will be switching phones, and I think I will get an Android phone. The biggest reason is the app availability is so much higher for the Android devices.
My wife has had the Droid Eris, and just recently got the Droid X. I hate touchscreens, and hated her Eris. However, the X doesn't seem so bad as far as the typing goes. Here is what I am looking for:
1. Has to be available for Verizon.
2. 4G doesn't matter to me at this point.
3. I mostly browse the internet, would love to use Flash. Watching videos would be nice. Big screens are nice too!
4. I would like Gingerbread.
5. I am not afraid of modding/rooting.
6. I tend to put a decent amount of apps on my phone.
Here are the phones available to me in my budget:
Droid 2 Global
Droid X
Samsung Fascinate
Droid Incredible
Battery life, signal strength for 3G, phone speed/power, voice clarity, good speakers, decent camera (still and video) are all big factors.
What do you recommend? I am leaning toward either the Droid X or Samsung Fascinate, and modding it to get rid of the bloatware (and in the case of the Fascinate, have Google be the default search).
What do you recommend? What stable, reliable mod would you recommend me use with that particular phone?
Droid 2 Global: Probably the slowest of the 4 you mentioned. Only recommended if you must have a physical keyboard
Droid X: Great aftermarket accessories and support. Gingerbread in process of being released. Speedy, but lacking in screen capabilities.
Samsung Fascinate: Fastest of the 4 once you root and ROM it. Amazing screen. Great developer community here on XDA
Droid Incredible: Still a good phone, but a little on the old side. With the Dinc2 released, don't expect much more support on the original Dinc.
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Droid 2 Global: Probably the slowest of the 4 you mentioned. Only recommended if you must have a physical keyboard
Droid X: Great aftermarket accessories and support. Gingerbread in process of being released. Speedy, but lacking in screen capabilities.
Samsung Fascinate: Fastest of the 4 once you root and ROM it. Amazing screen. Great developer community here on XDA
Droid Incredible: Still a good phone, but a little on the old side. With the Dinc2 released, don't expect much more support on the original Dinc.
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The D2G has the fastest CPU in terms of clock speed, is it really the slowest?
What do you mean by lacking in screen capabilities for the X?
For the Fascinate, what would you recommend for a ROM?
Id recommend the evo its fast and has a ton of memebers to help u if ur stuck
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Id recommend the evo its fast and has a ton of memebers to help u if ur stuck
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Evo?? For Verizon?
phone
Desire HD FTW!
Thanks for the suggestions guys, but its pretty much narrowed down to one of the 4 in my original post.
beafet said:
Hello,
I have always had Blackberry phones (a Pearl and a Tour) and have really enjoyed them. However, in July I will be switching phones, and I think I will get an Android phone. The biggest reason is the app availability is so much higher for the Android devices.
My wife has had the Droid Eris, and just recently got the Droid X. I hate touchscreens, and hated her Eris. However, the X doesn't seem so bad as far as the typing goes. Here is what I am looking for:
1. Has to be available for Verizon.
2. 4G doesn't matter to me at this point.
3. I mostly browse the internet, would love to use Flash. Watching videos would be nice. Big screens are nice too!
4. I would like Gingerbread.
5. I am not afraid of modding/rooting.
6. I tend to put a decent amount of apps on my phone.
Here are the phones available to me in my budget:
Droid 2 Global
Droid X
Samsung Fascinate
Droid Incredible
Battery life, signal strength for 3G, phone speed/power, voice clarity, good speakers, decent camera (still and video) are all big factors.
What do you recommend? I am leaning toward either the Droid X or Samsung Fascinate, and modding it to get rid of the bloatware (and in the case of the Fascinate, have Google be the default search).
What do you recommend? What stable, reliable mod would you recommend me use with that particular phone?
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I would even narrow the 4 phone to only 2. I would either chose between the:
Droid 2 Global (better specs on paper)
Samsung Fascinate (2nd on paper)
Since I don't have any experience on modding an Motorola i will skip that part and leave that to someone who does.
The Samsung Fascinate has a big community on XDA for modding and optimizing your phone. Great mods are MIUI and Cyanogenmod both are able to run on 1.3 Ghz (stable). Als good rom is GingerReal (don't know if its already available for Samsung Fascinate).
Good luck chosing,
Nick
Motorola does have nice feel and build quality, however, the fact that they're locked down really limits what you can do with them if you're the type of person that likes to have control of your device and play with fun root things. I originally had a Droid 2, which was fine, but ended up buying the incredible because of the awesome development community, custom roms, kernels, etc.
I haven't used the fascinate, it seems like it would be kind of so so out of the box, but could be pretty awesome with a custom rom. Another plus of the fascinate would be the super AMOLED screen.
I don't even think Verizon is selling the incredible anymore, they've phased it out in favor of the incredible 2 (ok specs, but locked down), but you could find a pretty good deal on eBay/Craigslist if that's the way you want to go. I love my incredible, only downside is that the battery life could be better, but that can be helped with kernels, underclocking, undervolting, extended batteries and the like.
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Motorola's are locked down? In what way? I can get a refurb Incredible pretty cheap through Verizon, but if the Motorola's are limited in some way, I will definitely lean toward the Fascinate!
Motorola locks their bootloader meaning no truly custom roms, kernels, radios, etc. No cyanogenmod on moto. There are "roms", but they're essentially just skinned versions of the official Motorola rom. If you like customizing, the incredible or fascinate will be the best bet.
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Samsung Fascinate. I was using it for the longest time before I got the G2x on t mobile and the Nexus S 4g on sprint. The fascinate can be rooted to gingerbread and several other custom rams. It is very fast with that awesome Super Amoled screen. Video streaming and stuff is great as well as the fact that its one of the only Galaxy phones that have a flash.
Great thanks everyone!
Droid 2 is slow due to issues with the RAM used and how it is configured, so I have heard.
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Motorola's are locked down? In what way? I can get a refurb Incredible pretty cheap through Verizon, but if the Motorola's are limited in some way, I will definitely lean toward the Fascinate!
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I just check with a friend who owns a D2G and he tells me te same. If you really want to mod and customize your phone when stock just doesnt cut it go for the Samsung.
90% leaning toward the Fascinate now...
Fascinate, hands down. amoled screen is amazing, crazy fast, almost impossible to brick. gotta decide on the rom/mod on your own, lots of choices
samsung's is really gud....+1 fascinate
Not to hijack this thread, but what do you guys thing, the DX2 or the Fascinate? I just want a phone that has a nice screen and is fast. I know the DX2 isn't rom-able yet because of the lack of sbf files, but what do you guys think?
I have read stories of people having signal/reception problems with the Fascinate, and they trade them for the DX with much better results...that makes me nervous.
Also, what is the status for Gingerbread for the Fascinate? The Droid X has it...
Hello guys, I am in a bind. If you have to choose between these three phones:
1. HTC EVO 3D - SPRINT
2. HTC SENSATION - TMOBILE
3. MOTOROLA PHOTON - SPRINT
Which one would you choose and why? Please also consider the carriers in making your determination.
Any help in deciding will be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks!
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Hello guys, I am in a bind. If you have to choose between these three phones:
1. HTC EVO 3D - SPRINT
2. HTC SENSATION - TMOBILE
3. MOTOROLA PHOTON - SPRINT
Which one would you choose and why? Please also consider the carriers in making your determination.
Any help in deciding will be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks!
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Im canadian, so unfortunately i can't help you in the carrier department however ill share my opinion on the devices with you.
1- Bad battery, lacklustre reviews id personally stay away, haven't heard anything exceptional about this device.
2- Personally owned this device, it sucks; stay away. Phone lags a lot doing simple things because of the awful sense 3.0. Phone Does not even feel worthy of its dual core status.
3- Best choice out of these three imo, this is strictly from reading reviews. Engadget just reviewed this today; looks like a solid device actually. http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/15/motorola-photon-4g-review/
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Im canadian, so unfortunately i can't help you in the carrier department however ill share my opinion on the devices with you.
1- Bad battery, lacklustre reviews id personally stay away, haven't heard anything exceptional about this device.
2- Personally owned this device, it sucks; stay away. Phone lags a lot doing simple things because of the awful sense 3.0. Phone Does not even feel worthy of its dual core status.
3- Best choice out of these three imo, this is strictly from reading reviews. Engadget just reviewed this today; looks like a solid device actually. http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/15/motorola-photon-4g-review/
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Hi unleased12,
Thanks for your response. Yea, I have been doing a lot of research. As a matter of fact, I owned the HTC Sensation for 8 days. During that time frame, I did notice the lagging and it was only when I rooted and flashed a custom ROM, did it perform like it should. It was blazing fast but I returned it before the 14 days so I could give other phones a shot.
I really liked the Sensation's performance AFTER flashed with a custom ROM which stil had Sense 3.0 on it, but the kernel had been tweaked and I had it overclocked to 1.5GHz.
I really like the look of the Photon but I am wondering if it will have the support of XDA developers as far as custom ROMs go.
I will go ahead and read that review you posted. Thanks!
PS. Any other phone worth waiting for in the next few weeks?
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Hi unleased12,
Thanks for your response. Yea, I have been doing a lot of research. As a matter of fact, I owned the HTC Sensation for 8 days. During that time frame, I did notice the lagging and it was only when I rooted and flashed a custom ROM, did it perform like it should. It was blazing fast but I returned it before the 14 days so I could give other phones a shot.
I really liked the Sensation's performance AFTER flashed with a custom ROM which stil had Sense 3.0 on it, but the kernel had been tweaked and I had it overclocked to 1.5GHz.
I really like the look of the Photon but I am wondering if it will have the support of XDA developers as far as custom ROMs go.
I will go ahead and read that review you posted. Thanks!
PS. Any other phone worth waiting for in the next few weeks?
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Curious towards this, what rom did you flash on your sensation to make it fast? haha i tried a couple custom roms and the phone still didn't even come close to my Galaxy s II.
As for the photon dev support, its really hard to say as most MOTO phones have locked boot loaders. But then again the atrix is starting to get some love as people unlocked its BL. As far as dev support goes HTc and samsung are the best, imo.
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Curious towards this, what rom did you flash on your sensation to make it fast? haha i tried a couple custom roms and the phone still didn't even come close to my Galaxy s II.
As for the photon dev support, its really hard to say as most MOTO phones have locked boot loaders. But then again the atrix is starting to get some love as people unlocked its BL. As far as dev support goes HTc and samsung are the best, imo.
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I had flashed the Android Revolution HD 1.1.7 HD ROM and set it to run at 1.5GHz. It was TEARING up all the benchmarks! On CF Bench, I was scoring higher than a Galaxy S II!!
I "think" the Photon has already been rooted, but not sure. I really liked the HTC Sensation but it would have to be really the BEST available right now to make me go with TMobile. The problem with TMobile is the imminent merger with ATT.
I would say PHOTON for sure. And as for development...this phone has been out for only a week to 10 days now and already has bootloader unlocked. AND...AND...AND...with the acquisition of Google and Motorola today, I would say things are REALLY LOOKING UP!!
PHOTON PHO SHO!!!!!!!
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I would say PHOTON for sure. And as for development...this phone has been out for only a week to 10 days now and already has bootloader unlocked. AND...AND...AND...with the acquisition of Google and Motorola today, I would say things are REALLY LOOKING UP!!
PHOTON PHO SHO!!!!!!!
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Yea, that is exactly what I was thinking... But I keep reading reviews talking about this PenTile technology used in the display and some say it degrades the image. Anyone know anything about this or is it just nitpicking?
I personified have the Evo 3d I think it is fantastic. The processor ks extremely fast 1.2 gigahertz if I recall right and you can't go wrong with 3d although for a power user you'll get an extremist short battery life like 5 hrs the photon is great I kinda wish k could go To it now.because they have a new accessory for it that has a full size key board and a mouse the phone goes on a stand and.you have the option to plug the phone.into a tv. Then you.can use it as a full computer. The set up is only 135$ after tax in store. As for carrier you should go with Sprint. The unlimited data is with Sprint within extra fees. Now.I know there's the $10 fee but I say you pay for the hardware. 4g is great if its available in your area. T-mobi has to many problems with signal. Anyone I know at dorms can't get signal inside if they do its terrible. So i recommend going with Sprint and if your worried abluo battery then go with photon if not and don't care about the keyboard go with EVO 3D I hope this helps
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Yea, that is exactly what I was thinking... But I keep reading reviews talking about this PenTile technology used in the display and some say it degrades the image. Anyone know anything about this or is it just nitpicking?
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Nitpicking.
I think the screen is fantastic.
if you are interested in modding your phone, you should also consider the community sizes of each phone.
bigger community = more development = more roms and kernels = more customization
photon has the least (so i wouldnt consider this)
evo 3d has a slightly bigger community than the sensation