[Q] Help me choose a phone + mod (Android) - General Questions and Answers

Hello,
I have always had Blackberry phones (a Pearl and a Tour) and have really enjoyed them. However, in July I will be switching phones, and I think I will get an Android phone. The biggest reason is the app availability is so much higher for the Android devices.
My wife has had the Droid Eris, and just recently got the Droid X. I hate touchscreens, and hated her Eris. However, the X doesn't seem so bad as far as the typing goes. Here is what I am looking for:
1. Has to be available for Verizon.
2. 4G doesn't matter to me at this point.
3. I mostly browse the internet, would love to use Flash. Watching videos would be nice. Big screens are nice too!
4. I would like Gingerbread.
5. I am not afraid of modding/rooting.
6. I tend to put a decent amount of apps on my phone.
Here are the phones available to me in my budget:
Droid 2 Global
Droid X
Samsung Fascinate
Droid Incredible
Battery life, signal strength for 3G, phone speed/power, voice clarity, good speakers, decent camera (still and video) are all big factors.
What do you recommend? I am leaning toward either the Droid X or Samsung Fascinate, and modding it to get rid of the bloatware (and in the case of the Fascinate, have Google be the default search).
What do you recommend? What stable, reliable mod would you recommend me use with that particular phone?

Droid 2 Global: Probably the slowest of the 4 you mentioned. Only recommended if you must have a physical keyboard
Droid X: Great aftermarket accessories and support. Gingerbread in process of being released. Speedy, but lacking in screen capabilities.
Samsung Fascinate: Fastest of the 4 once you root and ROM it. Amazing screen. Great developer community here on XDA
Droid Incredible: Still a good phone, but a little on the old side. With the Dinc2 released, don't expect much more support on the original Dinc.

cordoni said:
Droid 2 Global: Probably the slowest of the 4 you mentioned. Only recommended if you must have a physical keyboard
Droid X: Great aftermarket accessories and support. Gingerbread in process of being released. Speedy, but lacking in screen capabilities.
Samsung Fascinate: Fastest of the 4 once you root and ROM it. Amazing screen. Great developer community here on XDA
Droid Incredible: Still a good phone, but a little on the old side. With the Dinc2 released, don't expect much more support on the original Dinc.
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The D2G has the fastest CPU in terms of clock speed, is it really the slowest?
What do you mean by lacking in screen capabilities for the X?
For the Fascinate, what would you recommend for a ROM?

Id recommend the evo its fast and has a ton of memebers to help u if ur stuck

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Id recommend the evo its fast and has a ton of memebers to help u if ur stuck
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Evo?? For Verizon?

phone
Desire HD FTW!

Thanks for the suggestions guys, but its pretty much narrowed down to one of the 4 in my original post.

beafet said:
Hello,
I have always had Blackberry phones (a Pearl and a Tour) and have really enjoyed them. However, in July I will be switching phones, and I think I will get an Android phone. The biggest reason is the app availability is so much higher for the Android devices.
My wife has had the Droid Eris, and just recently got the Droid X. I hate touchscreens, and hated her Eris. However, the X doesn't seem so bad as far as the typing goes. Here is what I am looking for:
1. Has to be available for Verizon.
2. 4G doesn't matter to me at this point.
3. I mostly browse the internet, would love to use Flash. Watching videos would be nice. Big screens are nice too!
4. I would like Gingerbread.
5. I am not afraid of modding/rooting.
6. I tend to put a decent amount of apps on my phone.
Here are the phones available to me in my budget:
Droid 2 Global
Droid X
Samsung Fascinate
Droid Incredible
Battery life, signal strength for 3G, phone speed/power, voice clarity, good speakers, decent camera (still and video) are all big factors.
What do you recommend? I am leaning toward either the Droid X or Samsung Fascinate, and modding it to get rid of the bloatware (and in the case of the Fascinate, have Google be the default search).
What do you recommend? What stable, reliable mod would you recommend me use with that particular phone?
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I would even narrow the 4 phone to only 2. I would either chose between the:
Droid 2 Global (better specs on paper)
Samsung Fascinate (2nd on paper)
Since I don't have any experience on modding an Motorola i will skip that part and leave that to someone who does.
The Samsung Fascinate has a big community on XDA for modding and optimizing your phone. Great mods are MIUI and Cyanogenmod both are able to run on 1.3 Ghz (stable). Als good rom is GingerReal (don't know if its already available for Samsung Fascinate).
Good luck chosing,
Nick

Motorola does have nice feel and build quality, however, the fact that they're locked down really limits what you can do with them if you're the type of person that likes to have control of your device and play with fun root things. I originally had a Droid 2, which was fine, but ended up buying the incredible because of the awesome development community, custom roms, kernels, etc.
I haven't used the fascinate, it seems like it would be kind of so so out of the box, but could be pretty awesome with a custom rom. Another plus of the fascinate would be the super AMOLED screen.
I don't even think Verizon is selling the incredible anymore, they've phased it out in favor of the incredible 2 (ok specs, but locked down), but you could find a pretty good deal on eBay/Craigslist if that's the way you want to go. I love my incredible, only downside is that the battery life could be better, but that can be helped with kernels, underclocking, undervolting, extended batteries and the like.
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Motorola's are locked down? In what way? I can get a refurb Incredible pretty cheap through Verizon, but if the Motorola's are limited in some way, I will definitely lean toward the Fascinate!

Motorola locks their bootloader meaning no truly custom roms, kernels, radios, etc. No cyanogenmod on moto. There are "roms", but they're essentially just skinned versions of the official Motorola rom. If you like customizing, the incredible or fascinate will be the best bet.
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Samsung Fascinate. I was using it for the longest time before I got the G2x on t mobile and the Nexus S 4g on sprint. The fascinate can be rooted to gingerbread and several other custom rams. It is very fast with that awesome Super Amoled screen. Video streaming and stuff is great as well as the fact that its one of the only Galaxy phones that have a flash.

Great thanks everyone!

Droid 2 is slow due to issues with the RAM used and how it is configured, so I have heard.
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beafet said:
Motorola's are locked down? In what way? I can get a refurb Incredible pretty cheap through Verizon, but if the Motorola's are limited in some way, I will definitely lean toward the Fascinate!
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I just check with a friend who owns a D2G and he tells me te same. If you really want to mod and customize your phone when stock just doesnt cut it go for the Samsung.

90% leaning toward the Fascinate now...

Fascinate, hands down. amoled screen is amazing, crazy fast, almost impossible to brick. gotta decide on the rom/mod on your own, lots of choices

samsung's is really gud....+1 fascinate

Not to hijack this thread, but what do you guys thing, the DX2 or the Fascinate? I just want a phone that has a nice screen and is fast. I know the DX2 isn't rom-able yet because of the lack of sbf files, but what do you guys think?

I have read stories of people having signal/reception problems with the Fascinate, and they trade them for the DX with much better results...that makes me nervous.
Also, what is the status for Gingerbread for the Fascinate? The Droid X has it...

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Switching to Verizon, which phone should I get?

I have an X10i right now and I LOVE the phone,best phone I have ever used, hands down.
I want to keep an awesome phone, but because of work, I need to have verizon. I was looking at a droid x and a droid 2, I haven't explored outside of the phones that verizon sells though... Which phone do yall reccomend for someone who loves his x10i?
The important things to me are...
A good camera
3.5mm jack
Excellent 3rd party support
Free of any major issues (Aka not the samsung captivate)
Good support for gaming (snes,gba etc)
TFT screen
The Droid Incredible is probably your best choice. It is an amazing phone, despite the horrible battery life that comes stock.
I paid the full price for my phone when it first came out, but nowadays you can get it free if you have an upgrade if you look around.
Since you don't spend any money on the actual phone, I recommend spending money on buying a new battery. If you want to maintain the slim form factor of the phone, get a 1500mah battery. If you want awesome battery life, but a slightly thicker phone, get the 2150.
I would say go for the Droid2 and then download LauncherPro. That or the Samsung Fascinate or Continuum.
I second the Droid Incredible with the 1750mAh extended battery, if you shop around you can get it for $50 total including the extended battery, and it has an excellent dev community.
Droid 2 Global is a better device
this depends on how you use your device, if you don't really care about roms then the d2 is your best choice with the specs you listed. if you really need roms like i do, then your best bet is the droid inc. because it's dev community is growing and the d2 really doesn't have that good of a dev community. If you want the best of both worlds go online and get the d1, it's fast and it has a good dev community
I'm loving the Samsung Fascinate. At least until the Incredible HD rolls out with all it's LTE Goodness
Droid incredible hands down best phone on verizon right now. S-off and soon to have a 2.3 port will make this phone last much longer.
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Droid incredible hands down. I have D2 now but so sick of locked bootloader. There are a lot of devs out there for the incredible if you are concerned for dev support.
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Droid Incredible for sure. Good-sized screen, thin, superior HTC software, dev community, and that SEXY back. Yummy.
I'm going to have to disagree with the Droid Incredible.
My vote goes to the Droid 2 and the Samsung Fascinate. Droid 2 if you want a keyboard, Samsung Fascinate if you don't.
Droid 2 if you visit out of the country, pretty usefull
Go Droid Incredible or Fasc. I have the Fasc. Its pretty good. But I'd personally wait till Q1 of next year for the HTC Merge
Droid incredible is free at best buy mobile and is arguably the best of the droid series IMO and has a large dev community and plenty of roms
also the samsung fascinate is excellent as long as you plan on rooting it.. the dev community isbt as big yet because of the lack of 2.2 but its still dedicated and you can't go wrong with jts super clean rom
I own both but the lack of roms and 2.2 keep the Dinc. As my main phone
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Inspire vs. Atrix, considering selling my Atrix

Why would you Inspire people recommended the Inspire over the Atrix?
I'm kinda curious. I have seen the 1.8Ghz OC kernel, and Cyanogenmod 7 on the forums but haven't been able to find a video or anything. Can anyone compare this to the experience of a stock Atrix? I want to believe that a Inspire w/ CM7 @ 1.8Ghz would be scorchingly fast.
I'm sure the Atrix battery lasts nearly 2X the inspire overclocked like that, but I don't mind carrying around a 2nd battery for a phone. I always had 2 with my OG Droid
the fact that it doesn't have blurr should be the main reason. Alone the inspire is such a mod-able phone its not even funny. Performance wise from playing with a friends atrix and mine (not o.c.). Mine still ran smoother.
Its all about what the person wants. Specs or customization.
Not over clocked I get a good day day half of heavy use.
There have been a few devs who left the atrix for the inspire, the inspire has bigger dev community. As far as 1.8 goes, I don't think thats realistic for everyday performance. 1.5 is the performance sweet spot for most.
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I had an inspire, got rid of it BC I was a noob with android and the battery wasn't working out. Bought an atrix, and was disgusted after about a week to the point that I didn't care if the battery OJ the inspire was small - I just wanted it back. Sold my atrix, bought a new inspire and never looked back. The phone is seriously just 100 better. L
The kicker is that with certain custom roms, cm7 being the best, the battery life is equal to that of the atrix.
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yeah i bought the Galaxy S because of the "specs" Let's just say i learned my lesson on that... For me it's all about the Dev Support, and as you can see the Inspire 4G has LOTS!!!
On a side note.. I actually checked which phone was supported by CyanogenMod before purchasing..
I believe that HTC is the way Android is meant to be..
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Why would you Inspire people recommended the Inspire over the Atrix?
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mmm....
$199 - Atrix
- 79 - Inspire4G
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$129 Difference.
That's (2) weeks worth of Gasoline! That's what made up mind in a heartbeat!
Inspire vs Atrix
A stock Inspire runs very smoothly and very quickly. The Atrix is very fast because of the dual core processor, but that's pretty much it. Motoblur slows the phone down quite a bit and while it does seem to maintain it's responsiveness despite some lag, as I said it's still pretty laggy. HTC Sense isn't just an overlay on top of Froyo, it actually seems to enhance the experience of using an Android phone because everything seems to run so much smoother. Gaming on the Inspire isnt as good as it is on the Atrix because it's not dual core, but games for the most part run very smoothly (I've played quake 3 on mine with no issues). But yea, if you're just looking for speed, the Inspire is more than capable. It's already very fast underclocked, but its very fast overclocked as well.
This vid may help u decide if u should keep the Atrix or not. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmFKACFIu1s
Atrix disappoints
I work at a Best Buy and a lot of people bought the Atrix on release day at my store. I, however, wanted to wait and see, plus being a huge HTC fan the Inspire was really desirable (pun intended). So yeah I got an Inspire while one of my co-workers in the Geek Squad has an Atrix, and we go back and forth. "My resolution is higher!" he says, "My screen is more vibrant and larger" I say... Then his phone lags and doesn't scroll smoothly and I laugh. Speed test side-by-side I blow him out of the water, it really ticked him off when I connected his Atrix to my 3G hotspot and Speed tested quicker than his Atrix alone. Plus with the Atrix you have to rely on Motorola to release updates, and there is no way to put CM7 or another custom ROM (as of now due to encrypted bootloader)... Not to mention the version of 2.2 on there doesn't utilize the second core (if I am incorrect let me know). Sure he can hook it up to a TV and play around, but that isn't useful...
Get rid of the atrix. For a dual core phone that thing is a straight up embarrassment to Android. No ones kidding when they say the inspire is faster with no overclock. Doing side by side tests of inspire (stock) vs both atrixs I had, the inspire won EVERY speed test I gave it. With an overclock, its not even close.
And yes the atrix IS utilizing both cores with that version of froyo that's its shipped with, and with no possible way to ever flash a kernel, don't expect it to get much faster than it is right now
Edit- and my battery life actually isn't to bad at 1.8 surprisingly. It thought it was gonna be really bad, but it turned out to be pretty good.
Update:
Bought a brand new Inspire today!
Thanks for the input everyone!
PS. If anyone is interested in my Atrix it is for sale. $400
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in terms of stock one of the reasons people prefer the inspire is because of the htc sense UI it gives a smoother and better experience with andriod
motorola's UI is lik a rip off of htc from wat ive seen of it at least
lonehawk2k4 said:
in terms of stock one of the reasons people prefer the inspire is because of the htc sense UI it gives a smoother and better experience with andriod
motorola's UI is lik a rip off of htc from wat ive seen of it at least
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If it was even close to a rip off it would be passable.., but its far from it.
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plvaulter06 said:
Why would you Inspire people recommended the Inspire over the Atrix?
I'm kinda curious. I have seen the 1.8Ghz OC kernel, and Cyanogenmod 7 on the forums but haven't been able to find a video or anything. Can anyone compare this to the experience of a stock Atrix? I want to believe that a Inspire w/ CM7 @ 1.8Ghz would be scorchingly fast.
I'm sure the Atrix battery lasts nearly 2X the inspire overclocked like that, but I don't mind carrying around a 2nd battery for a phone. I always had 2 with my OG Droid
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The Atrix is from Motorola, for the main reason. Blur is horrible and Motorola locks their phones down to where modding just isn't as plentiful as an HTC phone. On paper, the Atrix is a must-have device. But in reality, it is a buggy Motorola phone. The build quality of the Atrix seems to be excellent, though.
MartyLK said:
The Atrix is from Motorola, for the main reason. Blur is horrible and Motorola locks their phones down to where modding just isn't as plentiful as an HTC phone. On paper, the Atrix is a must-have device. But in reality, it is a buggy Motorola phone. The build quality of the Atrix seems to be excellent, though.
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Its not great build quality. It does have some heft to it, but the back creaks and it is entirely plastic. The only good thing is the whole back can be replaced. The fingerprint sensors also aren't aligned or centered... they look like they were thrown in there.
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I had both the inspire and the artix
my atrix experience wasn't terrible but that might have been because of the fact i was rooted running gingerblur the best rom out right now for the atrix... i enjoyed the atrix's great battery life and fingerprint scanner but the build quality wasn't good and felt cheap to me
in my opinion if your running a stock atrix with no intention of flashing a rom to it your going to get annoyed and bored of blur..
that being said sense isn't much better for me im much more a fan of stock android or miui actually is pretty good to. I would personally get rid of the atrix and try the inspire the screen is bigger and brighter in my opinion and has a lot more of rom development the atrix
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Its not great build quality. It does have some heft to it, but the back creaks and it is entirely plastic. The only good thing is the whole back can be replaced. The fingerprint sensors also aren't aligned or centered... they look like they were thrown in there.
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QFT. I couldn't stand how badly my back cover creaked. Nothing about that phone screamed quality to me at all, software or hardware wise.
locked bootloader= no reason to buy EVER. Even with the cool dual core you can't overclock or do any cool **** w/ roms. On top of that motoblur is a piece of junk.

which phone would be the best to get?

so i am coming from sprint with a Samsung Epic 4g (we dont have 4g in des moines ia) and well i have to get a phone on the 16th and the phones i am lookin at are
Samsung droid charge,HTC thunderbolt , and the Motorola droid x2
and im wondering which phone would be the best to get? i dont think 4g matters as there is no 4g here and i mostly use my phone for emulators,email,IM,texting,and alot of web, what would be the best phone to get? i dont take pics and well i never use video chat before for a front facing cam on my epic
what phone would u guys choose?
also im a root user and love flashing roms
i mean verzion lol wow
Droid x 2!
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Ive tried all three i recommend the droid charge
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icebear8 said:
so i am coming from sprint with a Samsung Epic 4g (we dont have 4g in des moines ia) and well i have to get a phone on the 16th and the phones i am lookin at are
Samsung droid charge,HTC thunderbolt , and the Motorola droid x2
and im wondering which phone would be the best to get? i dont think 4g matters as there is no 4g here and i mostly use my phone for emulators,email,IM,texting,and alot of web, what would be the best phone to get? i dont take pics and well i never use video chat before for a front facing cam on my epic
what phone would u guys choose?
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I'm on Sprint but I work at a Verizon retail store. I've used all the phones. The Droid X2 is not much of any upgrade from the Droid X. It's basically a Droid X without a camera button, and with a dual core CPU. Not really worth it, especially since it has an encrypted bootloader. I really like the Thunderbolt (I have an Evo), but if you're going to play a lot of games, get the Droid Charge. It has the same (or slightly better) CPU that's in the Epic, and the Thunderbolt doesn't quite compare in terms of speed. There's also the LG Revolution, which is Bing'd out, but is still a great phone. Personally, if you're going to be gaming, I say go for the Droid Charge.
i saw that the droid x2 has a duel core and well my epic has the same cpu as the charge is there a BIG speed difference in these phones? even after root and everything clean from crapware?
i saw the charge is 299$ where the droid x2 is 199$ is it rly worth the 100$ to get a single core cpu? i know the screen is bad ass on the charge but i heard the x2 is pretty darn good
Don't forget that there is more to the phone than fancy hardware. Droid X2 might be nice, but it still runs moto blur, a UI that often is rated as one of the worst ones of Android. I personally remember playing around with the original Droid X at the VZW store months back and the model on display was lagging from menu to menu.
Software > Hardware, at least in most cases.
icebear8 said:
i saw that the droid x2 has a duel core and well my epic has the same cpu as the charge is there a BIG speed difference in these phones? even after root and everything clean from crapware?
i saw the charge is 299$ where the droid x2 is 199$ is it rly worth the 100$ to get a single core cpu? i know the screen is bad ass on the charge but i heard the x2 is pretty darn good
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I won't lie, the latest version of Motoblur on the Droid X / Droid X2 is not bad at all (though a little laggy on the home screen). But the thing has an encrypted bootloader, which means you can't flash custom kernels, which means your ROM selection will be very limited. Also, the Gingerbread update also introduced something retarded: If you root and try to tether without a tethering plan, you will be redirected to a Verizon page to buy the plan every time you try to load a website.
I haven't used the Droid Charge enough to see differences from the Epic other than they use an orange/brown theme instead of blue on the Epic. Also, the Charge has 4G, so you'll be future-proof. On the other hand, the Droid X2 is dual-core so you'll be future-proofed in terms of performance (Android 2.3 and under don't make use of both cores). I'm really not sure how well it compares, or rather WILL compare against the GPU of the Charge, which is hard to beat.
In terms of price, I think the Droid X2 is priced pretty fairly. The Charge on the other hand is a $100 more and, besides HDMI output and 4G LTE, doesn't really add much to your Epic. In the end it's really up to you. You always have 30 days to change the phone. Drop into a Verizon store and try them out. But keep in mind that Quadrant Standard isn't optimized for dual cores and Neocore is optimized for Qualcomm (ie Snapdragon) chipsets.
i did forget to add a phone.... the sony xperia play i do play a ALOT of ps1 emualtor on my epic.... how is the xperia play? i mean i forgot it was even out lol im use to the 4inch screen but if its bad ass for games and then that maybe be the phone to get
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But keep in mind that Quadrant Standard isn't optimized for dual cores and Neocore is optimized for Qualcomm (ie Snapdragon) chipsets.
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Would someone mind explaining to a n00b what the above means? I too am considering the Thunderbolt (or maybe the Evo 3D).
TIA
he is talkin about benchmarkn its nothing really just a score on how fast is the phone and stuff but some programs are more into other CPUS then others so give more points to the slower cpu
icebear8 said:
i did forget to add a phone.... the sony xperia play i do play a ALOT of ps1 emualtor on my epic.... how is the xperia play? i mean i forgot it was even out lol im use to the 4inch screen but if its bad ass for games and then that maybe be the phone to get
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I've played with the Xperia play. The good thing about it is that it's mainly stock Android (no skin, but it does have extra Sony Widgets and some crapware). It comes with Crash Bandicoot (the PS1 version) and some Bruce Lee game, among other games. It played pretty smooth, but it only has a 1GHz Snapdragon, so nothing too impressive. If you want a video with a good benchmark, watch this one. It even compares it to other phones (ps the Optimus 2X has a Tegra 2):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_SyXQtcTmQ&feature=player_detailpage#t=102s
If you can hold off, the Galaxy S II, which is the most powerful Android phone out right now, will be coming to Sprint, Verizon, and AT&T anywhere from July to August. It's all unofficial as of now, but they're definitely coming because they've been named (AT&T Attain, Sprint Within, Verizon Function).
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Would someone mind explaining to a n00b what the above means? I too am considering the Thunderbolt (or maybe the Evo 3D).
TIA
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Quadrant Standard and Neocore are benchmarking apps used to show the CPU and GPU capablities of a phone. The issue is that neither will give you an accurate result of the raw power of a phone.
Avoid Moto ATM
I used to be a staunch supporter of Motorola phones, but in the last couple years, especially with Android OS, they've been very lackluster to me. I support the phones in our office, and we've got several versions of Motos here that give us all sorts of issues. Its amazing what features that Moto manages to turn off natively that all other phones seem to have, plus they go out of their way to make it difficult to update to custom ROMs, etc.
I would definitely go with the TBolt, I've had mine for a couple months now and came from a N1 i was using with iWireless and love the TBolt, Rooted and running Gingerbread, everything works great
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what phone would u guys choose? also im a root user and love flashing roms
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I have a Tbolt & I love it. Mainly because (1) it has 4G and (2) the *very* active dev community here. You may not be concerned with 4G now, but it may come to your area before you are allowed to upgrade phones, so that may be worth considering. Also, some of the TB kernels allow overclocking up to 1.92ghz. The DX2 will proly still give better emulator performance, but I'd bet an overclocked Tbolt would emulate better than a stock Droid Charge (an o/c'd Charge would be a different story. Idk if you can even o/c a Charge, I don't follow the Charge threads). The last time I checked the Charge rom dev section, it was pretty sparse. That will change as more devs get their hands on it, but for the moment you can't get flash happy with a Charge. The Charge's amoled screen is freaking gorgeous. There is nothing else like a Samsung amoled. Colors are really vivid & bright and black is *black*, not dark grey like on a lcd. The Charge's battery life is better than the Tbolt too. I don't know much about the DX2 but I do know that if you like playing with custom roms & kernels, the DX2's bootloader will be very frustrating. I have never messed with Moto Blur but the majority of comments I've read about it are not positive. Ultimately it's a matter of tradeoffs & what is most important to you. If you want the best emulator performance & don't mind giving up custom roms, go for DX2. If you want an awesome screen & can wait a few weeks for rom development to pan out, get the Charge. If you've gotta have custom roms/kernels *right now* & don't mind lackluster battery life, check out the Tbolt.
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bejahnel said:
I would definitely go with the TBolt, I've had mine for a couple months now and came from a N1 i was using with iWireless and love the TBolt, Rooted and running Gingerbread, everything works great
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I have a Tbolt & I love it. Mainly because (1) it has 4G and (2) the *very* active dev community here.
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If you want an awesome screen & can wait a few weeks for rom development to pan out, get the Charge. If you've gotta have custom roms/kernels *right now* & don't mind lackluster battery life, check out the Tbolt.
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Thunderbolt now or wait for Galaxy S II or Evo 3D?
Will the Bolt be outdated soon with dual processors out now? I'm in no real hurry and can wait a few months so I'm thinking of waiting for Galaxy S II since I've read it is going to be open source now.
In Los Angeles will it matter whether I'm on Sprint or Verizon as far as 4G performance goes? The speed tests I've found are outdated and one listed Verizon as the very worst performing network but they tested in Columbus, OH and people posted that it wasn't an accurate test because of that.
I would go with the thunderbolt, and i just did a few days ago actually. It has the most dev support on here and I hate moto with a passion so the choice was easy for me.
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[Q] Fascinate or Incredible 2??

I just found out the Incredible 2 is in my price range. From what I have been able to find, it has not been rooted yet, whereas the Fascinate has a great community. What would you do in my shoes. I will be purchasing in about a month -(I need a Verizon phone less than $100). This will be my first Android (going from Blackberry). I want it to be a good experience.
Assuming the DInc2 isn't rooted prior to my purchase, what should I get? What are the odds looking like for getting root, Gingerbread ota, or anything like that? I fully intend to have this phone for 2 years.
Thanks!
i would go with the dinc2, but im a huge htc fan.
I have a Mesmerize (fascinate on a different carrier) and I definitely recommend the fassy. The dev community is fantastic. We almost have a fully funtiinal gingerbread cyanogenmod which will be amazing, by the time you get the phone it will definitely be done. It is a phone that will stand up well against newer phones. The dinc is not bad, but as you noted, it hasn't even been rooted. There is no development at all. I've used both phones, and I say, if you want to make your phone awesome on your own, get the fascinate but if you want it to be good out of the box get the dinc.
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Hmm...one vote for each...
if the inc2 is not rooted, i would go with the fascinate. If it is rooted, hands down i would pick the incredible 2 if you plan on rooting and romming it. I loved my original incredible and still use it even though i have moved on. It is a great device. IMO sense is a little better than touchwiz on the fascinate, but that is just me.
Well it isn't rooted yet...so that's the question. I don't know if it ever will be rooted.
I would go with the Incredible 2. The root is coming out soon and plus imo Sense is much better than Touchwiz.
I'd get the incredible 2 in my opinion it has a better camera, more ram , better build quality the only thing fascinate has better is an amoled screen
I like both phones a lot, but I would have to give the edge to the Incredible 2. The only advantage I would take the Fascinate for would be the sALMOED screen. It is truely stunning. But the Incredible 2's screen is also great (any screen on an Android phone would be a giant improvement over a BB screen lets face it). Slightly better specs plus Sense is much better than Touch wiz.
Fascinate........................
Thanks everyone! It looks like the bootloader is just about unlocked for the Incredible 2, so that is what I am going to go with!
Good choice.

Traded a Nexus for a charge...

So I'm betting I'll get a lot of hate for this, but I ended out trading my galaxy nexus for a Droid charge. Honestly I needed money so I traded someone for a charge plus $200, I thought it was a good deal.
To be honest, after using the charge for about a week I almost like it better than the nexus. I had the nexus since release and in my opinion the charger's screen looks better. ICS didn't wow me like everyone else, not yet at least.
Regardless, I'm not as disappointed as I thought I would be. Running tweaked 2.1 is excellent too. I still have an upgrade available so I'm thinking ill go with HTC again once they release something with a big screen.
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No hate over here.
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Nexus is way overrated imo.
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I HATE YOU!!
Juuuuuust keeeding
cnoevl21 said:
Nexus is way overrated imo.
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The hardware is. The screen wasn't anything to brag about (Rezound's is nicer and released around the same time). The cpu was definitely a step backwards compared to the Exynos in the SGSII, as well as the gpu. Crap radios that are worse than the charge (I'm not sure if this has gotten better). But what makes the Gnex amazing is two things: pure ICS goodness and a HUGE dev commutity - larger than any other phone on Verizon has had since probably the OGDroid. To me this is enough to outweigh the relatively weak hardware.
P.S. The rezound is pretty much the opposite with good/decent hardware but crappy software (I hate all skins be it Sense, TouchWiz, Motoblur, etc.) and much smaller dev community. If that phone would get a fully functioning AOSP rom (AOKP or CM9), it would be better than the Gnex IMO. The only drawback would be the tiny battery.
After using it with ICS for a while I didn't find anything that was overly impressive about it. In fact the software keys at times were more of a pain.
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bond32 said:
After using it with ICS for a while I didn't find anything that was overly impressive about it. In fact the software keys at times were more of a pain.
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But the software keys would be a hardware issue since they're only there because hardware keys were omitted. Don't get me wrong, I love Tweaked on my Charge (dwitherell is a scholar and a gentleman), but I will take AOSP any day over a skin-based rom. The biggest draw (for me at least) about ICS, other than the ui, is hardware acceleration.
I have at least managed to mimic (somewhat lol) the ICS ui with my TweakedICS theme but it's still not the same. I am content enough though.
I had the charge and I didn't like it. but with $200 extra not a bad deal. overall both of you had a good deal
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The hardware is. The screen wasn't anything to brag about (Rezound's is nicer and released around the same time). The cpu was definitely a step backwards compared to the Exynos in the SGSII, as well as the gpu. Crap radios that are worse than the charge (I'm not sure if this has gotten better). But what makes the Gnex amazing is two things: pure ICS goodness and a HUGE dev commutity - larger than any other phone on Verizon has had since probably the OGDroid. To me this is enough to outweigh the relatively weak hardware.
P.S. The rezound is pretty much the opposite with good/decent hardware but crappy software (I hate all skins be it Sense, TouchWiz, Motoblur, etc.) and much smaller dev community. If that phone would get a fully functioning AOSP rom (AOKP or CM9), it would be better than the Gnex IMO. The only drawback would be the tiny battery.
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I have the Rez, and I must say, the development is surprisingly good. No AOSP, but we do have some nice ICS leaks that work quite well. I'm running S-Off with the latest RUU and with CleanROM developer edition. It is very fast, clean, and it is fully functional. Radio reception is good and I get amazing battery life on the extended. Just sayin'...
My Charge is running Tweaked with PBJ, and it is great. I feel pretty lucky that I have, IMO, the two best phones on Verizon.
I bet the Incredible 4G is going be a nice phone, though. I honestly think that the GS3 will be somewhat overrated like the Galaxy Nexus, I just can't jive with pentile.
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I have the Rez, and I must say, the development is surprisingly good. No AOSP, but we do have some nice ICS leaks that work quite well. I'm running S-Off with the latest RUU and with CleanROM developer edition. It is very fast, clean, and it is fully functional. Radio reception is good and I get amazing battery life on the extended. Just sayin'...
My Charge is running Tweaked with PBJ, and it is great. I feel pretty lucky that I have, IMO, the two best phones on Verizon.
I bet the Incredible 4G is going be a nice phone, though. I honestly think that the GS3 will be somewhat overrated like the Galaxy Nexus, I just can't jive with pentile.
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Sense ICS =/= AOSP ICS. Also, the dev community is still miniscule compared to the Gnex though. I mean come on saying you have amazing battery life with the extended battery is cheating. It's like saying you get amazing mileage on your car but converted your trunk and backseat into an extended gas tank, lol. Almost any phone can get amazing battery life on an extended battery . The Rezound is fast though and has the best screen on Verizon with great radios. That's why I feel the hardware is better than the Gnex but on the software and dev side I still think the Gnex is much better. To each his own though, and as long as you love your device that is ultimately all that matters. I'm still trying to pick up either device on the cheap but I might just wait to use my upgrade in early June.
To me the Incredible 4G is a disappointment spec-wise. I feel like it's a gimped One series phone. Also the screen is too small for my taste. I was really hoping the Incredible 4G was going to be a OneX equivalent a la Evo 4G LTE .
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Sense ICS =/= AOSP ICS. Also, the dev community is still miniscule compared to the Gnex though. I mean come on saying you have amazing battery life with the extended battery is cheating. It's like saying you get amazing mileage on your car but converted your trunk and backseat into an extended gas tank, lol. Almost any phone can get amazing battery life on an extended battery . The Rezound is fast though and has the best screen on Verizon with great radios. That's why I feel the hardware is better than the Gnex but on the software and dev side I still think the Gnex is much better. To each his own though, and as long as you love your device that is ultimately all that matters. I'm still trying to pick up either device on the cheap but I might just wait to use my upgrade in early June.
To me the Incredible 4G is a disappointment spec-wise. I feel like it's a gimped One series phone. Also the screen is too small for my taste. I was really hoping the Incredible 4G was going to be a OneX equivalent a la Evo 4G LTE .
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I can see what you're saying, however, CleanROM is de-sensed, and is just very clean all-round. There are plenty of tweaks to make it nicer. I run a custom launcher (keep going back to ADW). But yeah, I get great battery life on the extended, lol. I haven't tried the stock battery, so I can't really comment on that. I agree the Incredible 4G is kindof a pansy phone. The HTC One X is where its at. Good thing I didn't have the money at the time, because AmazonWireless was selling the AT&T HTC One X a couple weeks ago for $530 off contract. Yeah the 16GB internal only storage sucks, but I have other devices with tons of storage.
The screen on the HOX is the best of any phone (of course the same as the new EVO.) In fact, I'd go so far to say the HTC One X (S4 Krait AT&T version being the nicest) is the best phone, period. The lingering question is development. I don't think the AT&T version has an unlocked bootloader yet. AT&T apparently strong-armed HTC into removing the htcdev unlock method.
Also feel like I get an extra hour of screen on time with the charge.
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hope nexus goes down to under 100....
man, i should update to nexus when vzw had that 40 dollar deal like week ago...sigh..
DroidBlaze said:
To me the Incredible 4G is a disappointment spec-wise. I feel like it's a gimped One series phone. Also the screen is too small for my taste. I was really hoping the Incredible 4G was going to be a OneX equivalent a la Evo 4G LTE .
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After thumbing through the specs I was disappointed as well. Would have been great if the screen size would have have been made competitive with other maker's top tier phones.
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After thumbing through the specs I was disappointed as well. Would have been great if the screen size would have have been made competitive with other maker's top tier phones.
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The whole point of the incredible was to be not gigantic the whole time.
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new charge...need ROM recommendation
Just bought a free Droid Charge from Amazon for my wife ($.01). Can anyone tell me a great ROM that is fairly currently supported for the Charge? I just want to quickly throw a nice ROM on here for her before I hand it over to her and never touch it again.
deitiphobia said:
Just bought a free Droid Charge from Amazon for my wife ($.01). Can anyone tell me a great ROM that is fairly currently supported for the Charge? I just want to quickly throw a nice ROM on here for her before I hand it over to her and never touch it again.
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Tweaked. Great rom, and it comes with tweaktools that you can use to theme, tweak, and upgrade right from the phone through a simple menu interface.
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shrike1978 said:
Tweaked. Great rom, and it comes with tweaktools that you can use to theme, tweak, and upgrade right from the phone through a simple menu interface.
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True dat.
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