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Inspire or Atrix?

This is the big question for me. On the one hand I love HTC devices and the screen size (i am a long time HD2 user until I flashed it to death ). On the other hand, it seems like its a rehash of 1 year old technology, with that terrible battery and camera (im using a Captivate and the quality diffefence compared to any HTC device I have used is massive), and the Atrix looks incredible on paper (battery, dual core, peripherals, screen resolution etc). Trouble is, whenever I get a non HTC device, I spend days tryimg to get it to have the look and feel of an HTC device!
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Im the same way. I have a captivated know and will be getting an Inspire. Im really not a fan of Motorola phones. I want either the Inspire or the Infuse. Leaning toward the Inspire in big way tho.
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Yea, I'm going with HTC, they just seem better built and like you said, with my other Android phones I try to make my non HTC to look like htc, lol!
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I love HTC devices too. Even with the older tech and a little bit less in the way of specs, I'd choose the Inspire any day. I'm not a fan of Motorola phones regardless which carrier they've been on. I just haven't had a good one dating all the way back past the razr and up to the first droid. Next, because of the bootloader stuff they did with the Droid X, I imagine they'll try to lock the Atrix down even if they say they're going to work with devs. I love my Aria, no problems at all and it's been a great phone. I kinda see the inspire as a big brother to the Aria which is why I'm going for it as soon as I can.

The Inspire does have its shortcoming but I like AT&T and I like HTC. I'm willing to sacrifice on a few features (battery, CPU, front camera) in order to get what I think is better quality and user experience of an HTC phone. I'm currently still on a Tilt 2 and I will be able to upgrade in May. If at MWC this month nothing better that would hit AT&T this year from HTC is shown then I'll just go with the Inspire.
I'm thinking since the Inspire is being introduced at a lower price than the Atrix then perhaps a purchase at full price for the Inspire with no contract might be worth it in order to save the upgrade credit for something later that might come out toward the end of the year.

I had both in my hand this week, including the Atrix laptop dock. Very nice.
But I think the Inspire seemed more...quality. New Sense interface, great camera controls and efx, 8mp camera with VERY bright dual LED flash. And half the price.
Atrix + Laptop bundle will be $500 on contract. Atrix alone $199
Inspire is $99 on contract.
I'm leaning Inspire

I've had the HTC Inspire 4G in my hands for three days now (be sure to check out some of the videos and blogs posts I've written up already http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=940312) and I can say that you will not be disappointed with the Inspire. The unibody aluminum case makes the phone feel solid. I played around with the Atrix at CES last month and was not particularly impressed with the handset's external hardware. Also, the higher resolution screen looked a bit off with the home screen UI and many applications.
I don't know why people keep referring to the Inspire and Thunderbolt as being phones with rehashed technology from last year. Yes, the second generation Snapdragon processor did come out last year, but the first phones to use them only started showing up in late fall. If that's your standard for calling something old, the first devices powered by the NVIDIA Tegra 2 surfaced right around the same time.
The processor in this phone performs nearly 50% better than the 1GHz processor found in the EVO and Nexus One (first generation Snapdragon processors).
The Inspire is a well rounded handset with a good camera, decent batter life, and solid benchmark numbers. No, it will not outperform the Atrix or any other phone with a Tegra 2 processor, but at least you can trust the HTC quality and know that it'll probably get an official Android update somewhere down the road.

I originally wanted the Inspire, then once I saw the specs--I thought about the Atrix as my next phone. But now, I think I'll want the Inspire again.
Honestly, I really like the phone. Specs-wise, next the the Atrix, well--old tech.
Next to the Captivate I have now--more of the same. But I'd pick the Inspire over my Captivate any day of the week.
I'm just waiting until it comes out so I can ring warranty and have them send me one to fiddle around with.

Cyanogen. Enough said. HTC inspire is quality work. Yes not the best internal spec. Atrix looks impressive on paper. But for those of us who live on xda atrix will not do it for us. Inspire has many devs already working on roms themes and kernels. Ands its hspa+ it will be a upgrade from my N1.
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ill be comming to android officialy from the Tilt 2 to inspire. i was wowed by the atrix but after thinking about what my boss has gone through with his droid and what i have seen i think the inspire will be the way to go!

Droppa said:
Im the same way. I have a captivated know and will be getting an Inspire. Im really not a fan of Motorola phones. I want either the Inspire or the Infuse. Leaning toward the Inspire in big way tho.
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I think flash happy people with Captivates should and will lean to the Inspire. Seeing as how hard it has been for the Dev community to cook something up rather than spliced together samsung roms. HTC devices just seem so much easier to dev. I am afraid that if I go to Motorola I will have the same issues. I don't know if it is just more Devs on HTC devices or that they are just that much easier to crack. Seems like the other devices are just harder to get anything good on them.

doctahjeph said:
I think flash happy people with Captivates should and will lean to the Inspire. Seeing as how hard it has been for the Dev community to cook something up rather than spliced together samsung roms. HTC devices just seem so much easier to dev. I am afraid that if I go to Motorola I will have the same issues. I don't know if it is just more Devs on HTC devices or that they are just that much easier to crack. Seems like the other devices are just harder to get anything good on them.
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I can attest to this. I have had the captivate since a couple weeks after launch and have been yearning for some cyanogenmod love as well as any ui other than touchwiz. It seems like the devs for the captivate have a really hard time doing anything besides splicing cappy leaks together and while I have run some ready quick and efficient roms, I am always checking the htc forums with envy. I am going to get the infuse pending a better htc device coming out at MWD.
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The Inspire is definitely the headsup winner.
Honestly who is really going to use that FrontFacingCamera anyways if it even had it other than make some real time video pron, hahaha
The only question Im asking myself is if there are any 1400mAh or 1500mAh aftermarket batteries that I can swap out after buying it.
1230 mAh is low in comparison to other phones with similar specs

Inspire 4G FTW!

Inspire all the way Atrix is full of hype and no promise. Locked boot, dual cores wont be utilized fully and motoblur is crap

I'm debating between the two as well.
I think what is keeping me from choosing is:
A) continued support from HTC and AT&T, as well as dev support if I wanted it (most likely would, I jailbroke my iphone about two months after I got it)
B) a huge part of the Atrix IS it's docks. I was never interested in them in the first place, just it's specs. So I'd almost be buying half a product
C) build quality! My plastic iphone 3G is literally about to split in half, right where the white plastic and bezel meet. I'm tired of plastic phones.
the Atrix is looking like this: higher res, biometric lock, dual core, RAM, battery
Inspire: Build quality, support, camera (debatable, but still more Megs)

it's not old tech, take a look at the comparisons of the Inspire and the Evo 4G, it's clearly a new device in a similar casing
http://mobile.downloadatoz.com/comparision,htc-inspire-4g-vs-htc-evo-4g-black-sprint.html
I for one look forward to getting mine on (next) Monday. I love my captivate, but I love HTC more.

I have also been wondering if I should leave the captivate and jump to the Atrix or Inspire. I am always one for the latest and greatest so I was leaning towards the Atrix or holding out for another 2 core phone. After reading a lot and browsing these pages I just about want to go for the inspire. Man do I hate decisions!!

After having a Nexus One I'm sold on HTC hardware. I'm going to get the Inspire and love it...at least until HTC releases something better.
However, since I think it will be months before HTC releases another compelling phone on AT&T, I'll be alright with that. The minute you buy technology it's already outdated, and either you can get used to that idea or you can spend exorbitant amounts of money trying to keep up.
I'll get the Inspire for $99 and use the money I save on it (plus the money I get from flipping my Nexus One) to get a tablet this spring. Can't wait for the first HTC Honeycomb tablet!

If Sony Ericsson is saying the Arc is their top tier phone well then the Inspire 4G is really not all that outdated and irrelevant.
Sure its not a dual-core behemoth but from what the early reviewers have said is with the specs it will have when its released, the smartphone is fast and responsive.
Check out my other thread on the similarties to the Arc and other Snapdragon phones and will see that with overclocking, bootloader and rom support this can potentially turn into a dual core beast performace wise.
What can you buy nowadays for $99 anyways, not even a burnt out everyday iPhone or extremely outdated Blackberry.
At least with the Inspire you know right away that potentially all the hard work and Devlopment from the Desire HD thread can be carried over to us.
The Inspire 4G will stay active for a good while in my opinion, I can atest to HTC quality since I still own the phone that started it all the HTC Dream / G1.
This phone has been dropped on concrete, slammed againt walls, thrown around like a bad habit and is still going strong and even have a fast/ stable version of Froyo 2.2.1 with apps2sd enabled and running with zero issues. This phone was only offically updated til 1.6 Donut from HTC and T-Mobile yet the incredible xda community has kept it going and left all who own it satisfied.
That to me is a prime example of what HTC quality, xda support and those out there with the potential to make a good phone great in the Months and Years ahead.
Check out the Samsung and Sony forums those guys are truly regretting their purchases from barely a few months ago while I'm still content from a phone from 2008.
Proof positive that this purchase will be a smart one from whomever takes a chance on it when its released to the public.
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Hey guys,
I have been debating on if i want to get the charge (when it drops) or hold off for something else.
I have the fascinate and I like it but samsung kind of pissed me off with how long it took them to update it to 2.2 froyo, and I am wondering if anyone thinks this is going to happen with the charge.
I mean shouldn't they have released it with gingerbread anyhow?
sure the devs always have our backs but it'd be nice to be assured the company hasn't forgotten about us.
anyone else have these concerns with the charge?

frogdod said:
Hey guys,
I have been debating on if i want to get the charge (when it drops) or hold off for something else.
I have the fascinate and I like it but samsung kind of pissed me off with how long it took them to update it to 2.2 froyo, and I am wondering if anyone thinks this is going to happen with the charge.
I mean shouldn't they have released it with gingerbread anyhow?
sure the devs always have our backs but it'd be nice to be assured the company hasn't forgotten about us.
anyone else have these concerns with the charge?
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if you have a fascinate and dont live in a 4g area there is no reason to get this phone
if you need a 4g phone and want to tie yourself to a 2 year deal save a few bucks (and headaches) and get a bolt or wait on the sgs2

I have the Charge. I had been using the HTC Thunderbolt three weeks prior to my Charge arriving courtesy of Samsung. The Charge is a very good device, comparable to the Thunderbolt. It's considerably llighter in terms of weight but does not feel cheap at all. Don't believe the lame bloggger idiots over at Gizmodo and Engadget that claim the phone should be dual core to be worth the price. The device is just as fast as the Thunderbolt. This phone has the best display than anything I've seen so far. I've owned the OG Droid, Droid X and Thunderbolt, the Droid Charge's display is stunning.
As for size the Charge doesn't feel larger than any other 4.3" device on the market, looks are deceiving. Samsung definitely put some effort in making the Droid Charge the more polished looking device in Verizon's Droid lineup. I've never been a fan of Moto's MotoBlur and was beginning to like HTC's Sense for the brief time I owned the Thunderbolt, but Touchwiz is a nicely designed UI, not as intrusion to the Android experience as I and many others feel MotoBlah is.in my opinion, make your next device The Droid Charge so that the talented people here on XDA Forums have a reason to unleashed the power and potential of the Charge. Only thing I didn't like about the phone was the name. The internal Samsung name for the device was the Stealth. Droid Stealth has a ring to it.
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DRAZY said:
I have the Charge. I had been using the HTC Thunderbolt three weeks prior to my Charge arriving courtesy of Samsung. The Charge is a very good device, comparable to the Thunderbolt. It's considerably llighter in terms of weight but does not feel cheap at all. Don't believe the lame bloggger idiots over at Gizmodo and Engadget that claim the phone should be dual core to be worth the price. The device is just as fast as the Thunderbolt. This phone has the best display than anything I've seen so far. I've owned the OG Droid, Droid X and Thunderbolt, the Droid Charge's display is stunning.
As for size the Charge doesn't feel larger than any other 4.3" device on the market, looks are deceiving. Samsung definitely put some effort in making the Droid Charge the more polished looking device in Verizon's Droid lineup. I've never been a fan of Moto's MotoBlur and was beginning to like HTC's Sense for the brief time I owned the Thunderbolt, but Touchwiz is a nicely designed UI, not as intrusion to the Android experience as I and many others feel MotoBlah is.in my opinion, make your next device The Droid Charge so that the talented people here on XDA Forums have a reason to unleashed the power and potential of the Charge. Only thing I didn't like about the phone was the name. The internal Samsung name for the device was the Stealth. Droid Stealth has a ring to it.
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I agree with everything he said. If you are on Verizon and want a new phone, this is the one to get.

Im just curious has it been said that the galaxy s2 was coming to verizon, cause I thought it was a gsm phone
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As far as I know from my Samsung contacts the Galaxy S II isn't in the lineup for Verizon at least for the time being.
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The Mobile Panda aka Black Man X (if you don't know him look for him on Twitter) as a Verizon employee who tests their phones he has not heard of the SG2 coming to Verizon this year, and also mentioned there is no room for LTE in that thin shell so it would be a 3G phone.
I personally keep bouncing around from 4G to 3G (with a 4G modem I have) phones from going back to the TB to the Charge or holding out for the Bionic etc. Its a tough time right now because nothing truly blows me away in the mobile device world, sad isn't it.
The display on the Charge is simply stunning and for that alone I would get one, the only major concern I have is 512MB of RAM (the 17 BLOATWARE apps Verizon put on will come off immediately giving me back about 250MB or more). Will it be enough to handle some memory intensive apps, I don't want to be limited.
Since the Galaxy S was rooted and it received Cyanogenmod and the TB is in an Alpha stage we could also see CM7 or with luck other ROM/Kernels.
If I do get the Charge I will donate to Devs here so we can get the Fascinate goods on this phone. ROM's are critical and so are the kernels to boost speed and help battery life.

well best of luck to those who buy this

nitsuj17 said:
if you need a 4g phone and want to tie yourself to a 2 year deal save a few bucks (and headaches) and get a bolt or wait on the sgs2
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Why would any Fascinate owner want to spend money on downgrading to a Thunderbolt?
Your "no developers" FUD has already been proven wrong. Enough with trying to herd people.

s44 said:
Why would any Fascinate owner want to spend money on downgrading to a Thunderbolt?
Your "no developers" FUD has already been proven wrong. Enough with trying to herd people.
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my answer would be: dont by either phone unless you live in a 4g area and need one..
wait for anything thats actually a significant upgrade..and yes i know the charge has a nicer screen and hdmi out as well...but to me that does warrant 300 bucks and a 2 year deal
to those that dont care about development and such then yeah i guess this phone is fine...but id bet there will be a rom or two and a voodoo kernel or two but that ll be as far as that goes on this phone...and with the nasty lte ril forget aosp on the level that the fascinate has (which isnt to say the fascinate even has fully working aosp)
and aside from imnuts saying he ll do kernel work if he gets enough donations to get a charge..i havent seen anyone else commit to it
and depends on you define "downgrade" to the bolt...personally i dont want one and have made my reasons why known...but it has a significant amount of development going on..and it can do voice/data on 3g as well..which for many (not me) is a big plus....and the vast majority of fascinate owners who have left for it seem happy
personally im happy with my fascinate until a significant upgrade comes along

^^ What he said. There is no reason to buy the Charge unless you're desperate for 4G. I'll get it and do at least kernel work if I can get enough support to buy one, otherwise, I'd hold off for the SGSII.
If I can get a Charge, I'd attempt to get an AOSP/CM ROM going for it, but given the success that jt1134/kaos have had with it on the Fascinate, I wouldn't expect a fully working ROM ever, unless someone else would get one as well. However, creating deodexed and debloated ROMs would be no issue at all, and I planned on doing that already.

You're da man...thanks

There is no GS2 scheduled for release on Verizon this year. The Charge will more than likely be the flagship Samsung LTE handset for Verizon and followed up by the 7" and 10.1" LTE Galaxy Tabs end of May or early June. With the delay of the Charge release you can almost be certain that it will push back the release of any new LTE handset that was scheduled. Samsung needs to recoup on the R&D/marketing of this phone and Verizon is obligated to make this happen.
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There is no GS2 scheduled for release on Verizon this year. The Charge will more than likely be the flagship Samsung LTE handset for Verizon and followed up by the 7" and 10.1" LTE Galaxy Tabs end of May or early June. With the delay of the Charge release you can almost be certain that it will push back the release of any new LTE handset that was scheduled. Samsung needs to recoup on the R&D/marketing of this phone and Verizon is obligated to make this happen.
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Are you the ceo of verizon? Cud otherwise its tough to say that the sgs2 won't make its way there
Att just is releasing the infuse 4g and the att compatible sgs2 just cleared the fcc....so its not like one can't follow rather quickly
Would the sgs2 vzw variant make it out before august though? Probably not
Look what vzw did with the droid 2 and the droid 2 global and now the bolt and inc 2

Considering how thin the SGS2 is and how tightly packed the internals are it likely won't ship until the next gen of LTE chips are ready. They CDMA + LTE is a fatter phone and the SGS2 is all about thin and sexy, not portly and ugly.
That said EOY could happen, but my money says CES 2012 for Verizon since the Charge is still not out.
Now the Infuse caught my eye today and I have searched for the SGS2 info (I want the SAMOLED+ screen) and a better phone, but not jazzed about AT&T and I have not heard much about AT&T release date.
So for me the money is on the Droid Charge especially given how AT&T is now marketing their BS 4G on the with upgraded backhaul mumbo jumbo.

I'm not the CEO of Verizon but I have reliable contacts at Samsung that have informed of the Verizon product lineup coming from Samsung.
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Not trying to brag but how do you think I was able to score a Droid Charge before the release? My sources are very reliable.
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Everytime I read an article on the gs2 it specs slways say gsm in case you didnt know we over here at verizon are cdma+lte, so I dont see this version coming any time soon, besides I stay in atlanta and were in 4g heaven here. So I couldnt go back to in of those other so called 3gs aka 4g companies
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poloboogie said:
Everytime I read an article on the gs2 it specs slways say gsm in case you didnt know we over here at verizon are cdma+lte, so I dont see this version coming any time soon, besides I stay in atlanta and were in 4g heaven here. So I couldnt go back to in of those other so called 3gs aka 4g companies
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The original SGS was GSM as well, and it came to Verizon via the Fascinate. I'd go with a time frame of Aug/Sept/Oct for the SGSII on VZW. As for "sources inside Samsung", those same sources said the Fascinate would get Froyo OTA in November last year, not April of this year, so I wouldn't trust any source inside Samsung...

ok so i guess no one else is concerned about the charge being updated like i am.
the main debate seems to be whether or not the upgrade from fascinate to charge is worth $300.
so what is different between the two?(besides 4g)
charge has better camera
is that about it? both have 1ghz processor and 512 ram rom
Super AMOLED screens
I live 40min south of San Jose CA
and i don't think the 4g reaches down here
i was totally ready to buy this
but now i am comparing the specs of the two phones i am not sure.
and most the views here seem to be split
either for or against
and maybe one for the thunderbolt.

[Q] Help me choose a phone + mod (Android)

Hello,
I have always had Blackberry phones (a Pearl and a Tour) and have really enjoyed them. However, in July I will be switching phones, and I think I will get an Android phone. The biggest reason is the app availability is so much higher for the Android devices.
My wife has had the Droid Eris, and just recently got the Droid X. I hate touchscreens, and hated her Eris. However, the X doesn't seem so bad as far as the typing goes. Here is what I am looking for:
1. Has to be available for Verizon.
2. 4G doesn't matter to me at this point.
3. I mostly browse the internet, would love to use Flash. Watching videos would be nice. Big screens are nice too!
4. I would like Gingerbread.
5. I am not afraid of modding/rooting.
6. I tend to put a decent amount of apps on my phone.
Here are the phones available to me in my budget:
Droid 2 Global
Droid X
Samsung Fascinate
Droid Incredible
Battery life, signal strength for 3G, phone speed/power, voice clarity, good speakers, decent camera (still and video) are all big factors.
What do you recommend? I am leaning toward either the Droid X or Samsung Fascinate, and modding it to get rid of the bloatware (and in the case of the Fascinate, have Google be the default search).
What do you recommend? What stable, reliable mod would you recommend me use with that particular phone?

Droid 2 Global: Probably the slowest of the 4 you mentioned. Only recommended if you must have a physical keyboard
Droid X: Great aftermarket accessories and support. Gingerbread in process of being released. Speedy, but lacking in screen capabilities.
Samsung Fascinate: Fastest of the 4 once you root and ROM it. Amazing screen. Great developer community here on XDA
Droid Incredible: Still a good phone, but a little on the old side. With the Dinc2 released, don't expect much more support on the original Dinc.

cordoni said:
Droid 2 Global: Probably the slowest of the 4 you mentioned. Only recommended if you must have a physical keyboard
Droid X: Great aftermarket accessories and support. Gingerbread in process of being released. Speedy, but lacking in screen capabilities.
Samsung Fascinate: Fastest of the 4 once you root and ROM it. Amazing screen. Great developer community here on XDA
Droid Incredible: Still a good phone, but a little on the old side. With the Dinc2 released, don't expect much more support on the original Dinc.
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The D2G has the fastest CPU in terms of clock speed, is it really the slowest?
What do you mean by lacking in screen capabilities for the X?
For the Fascinate, what would you recommend for a ROM?

Id recommend the evo its fast and has a ton of memebers to help u if ur stuck

SuperDeform said:
Id recommend the evo its fast and has a ton of memebers to help u if ur stuck
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Evo?? For Verizon?

phone
Desire HD FTW!

Thanks for the suggestions guys, but its pretty much narrowed down to one of the 4 in my original post.

beafet said:
Hello,
I have always had Blackberry phones (a Pearl and a Tour) and have really enjoyed them. However, in July I will be switching phones, and I think I will get an Android phone. The biggest reason is the app availability is so much higher for the Android devices.
My wife has had the Droid Eris, and just recently got the Droid X. I hate touchscreens, and hated her Eris. However, the X doesn't seem so bad as far as the typing goes. Here is what I am looking for:
1. Has to be available for Verizon.
2. 4G doesn't matter to me at this point.
3. I mostly browse the internet, would love to use Flash. Watching videos would be nice. Big screens are nice too!
4. I would like Gingerbread.
5. I am not afraid of modding/rooting.
6. I tend to put a decent amount of apps on my phone.
Here are the phones available to me in my budget:
Droid 2 Global
Droid X
Samsung Fascinate
Droid Incredible
Battery life, signal strength for 3G, phone speed/power, voice clarity, good speakers, decent camera (still and video) are all big factors.
What do you recommend? I am leaning toward either the Droid X or Samsung Fascinate, and modding it to get rid of the bloatware (and in the case of the Fascinate, have Google be the default search).
What do you recommend? What stable, reliable mod would you recommend me use with that particular phone?
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I would even narrow the 4 phone to only 2. I would either chose between the:
Droid 2 Global (better specs on paper)
Samsung Fascinate (2nd on paper)
Since I don't have any experience on modding an Motorola i will skip that part and leave that to someone who does.
The Samsung Fascinate has a big community on XDA for modding and optimizing your phone. Great mods are MIUI and Cyanogenmod both are able to run on 1.3 Ghz (stable). Als good rom is GingerReal (don't know if its already available for Samsung Fascinate).
Good luck chosing,
Nick

Motorola does have nice feel and build quality, however, the fact that they're locked down really limits what you can do with them if you're the type of person that likes to have control of your device and play with fun root things. I originally had a Droid 2, which was fine, but ended up buying the incredible because of the awesome development community, custom roms, kernels, etc.
I haven't used the fascinate, it seems like it would be kind of so so out of the box, but could be pretty awesome with a custom rom. Another plus of the fascinate would be the super AMOLED screen.
I don't even think Verizon is selling the incredible anymore, they've phased it out in favor of the incredible 2 (ok specs, but locked down), but you could find a pretty good deal on eBay/Craigslist if that's the way you want to go. I love my incredible, only downside is that the battery life could be better, but that can be helped with kernels, underclocking, undervolting, extended batteries and the like.
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Motorola's are locked down? In what way? I can get a refurb Incredible pretty cheap through Verizon, but if the Motorola's are limited in some way, I will definitely lean toward the Fascinate!

Motorola locks their bootloader meaning no truly custom roms, kernels, radios, etc. No cyanogenmod on moto. There are "roms", but they're essentially just skinned versions of the official Motorola rom. If you like customizing, the incredible or fascinate will be the best bet.
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Samsung Fascinate. I was using it for the longest time before I got the G2x on t mobile and the Nexus S 4g on sprint. The fascinate can be rooted to gingerbread and several other custom rams. It is very fast with that awesome Super Amoled screen. Video streaming and stuff is great as well as the fact that its one of the only Galaxy phones that have a flash.

Great thanks everyone!

Droid 2 is slow due to issues with the RAM used and how it is configured, so I have heard.
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beafet said:
Motorola's are locked down? In what way? I can get a refurb Incredible pretty cheap through Verizon, but if the Motorola's are limited in some way, I will definitely lean toward the Fascinate!
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I just check with a friend who owns a D2G and he tells me te same. If you really want to mod and customize your phone when stock just doesnt cut it go for the Samsung.

90% leaning toward the Fascinate now...

Fascinate, hands down. amoled screen is amazing, crazy fast, almost impossible to brick. gotta decide on the rom/mod on your own, lots of choices

samsung's is really gud....+1 fascinate

Not to hijack this thread, but what do you guys thing, the DX2 or the Fascinate? I just want a phone that has a nice screen and is fast. I know the DX2 isn't rom-able yet because of the lack of sbf files, but what do you guys think?

I have read stories of people having signal/reception problems with the Fascinate, and they trade them for the DX with much better results...that makes me nervous.
Also, what is the status for Gingerbread for the Fascinate? The Droid X has it...

good verizon android phones?

my wife and i are moving to verizon this week and i need to know what solid android phones there are out there. im buying her that droid pro with the keyboard but im coming from the htc evo, so id like another powerhouse.

Try the DroidX - I'm talking last year's model - it's big, fast, was recently upgraded to Gingerbread, AND it's *cheap*. You can probably get the brand new phone for free if you check Amazon and Best Buy.
The DroidX2 - the new model - just came out, so it would cost more but doesn't really bring that much more to the table. From a "bang for your buck" standpoint, I'd rate the Droid X a best buy.
-Mike
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isn't the droid x not rootable? doesn't it have a locked bootloader?

Go with the droid charge its the best verizon has to offer at the moment
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Go with the droid charge its the best verizon has to offer at the moment
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im leaning towards the thunderbolt.

I just got the Thunderbolt and I love it. Are you living in a 4g area?
If you are then there isn't much to offer. Thunderbolt, Charge and an LG.
Theres multiple non-4g phones: X2, htc incredible 2 and the Droid 3 (with a keyboard) will be out soon.
If you had an Evo than the Thunderbolt will be very familiar to you.

my cliq is running great.

the thunderbolt is a beast. Dual core is overkill as of now, seeing as my thunderbolt on CM7 with stock cpu speed posted quadrant scores of 2400. I am coming from the incredible, which was essentially the little brother of the evo. Thunderbolt will definitely be a good choice. Although battery isn't too great.

The battery life on the TB is fine if you root and install custom roms/kernels. It will easily go the whole day with the froyo roms and kernels out there. GB seems to eat more battery, but still better than stock by a mile.

Not a fan of Motorola phones, but the X2 is pretty nice if you don't have LTE in your area.
If you do, then I would go for the Thunderbolt easily. The Charge is nice and fast, but me personally I don't feel it's worth the $250.

[Q] Fascinate or Incredible 2??

I just found out the Incredible 2 is in my price range. From what I have been able to find, it has not been rooted yet, whereas the Fascinate has a great community. What would you do in my shoes. I will be purchasing in about a month -(I need a Verizon phone less than $100). This will be my first Android (going from Blackberry). I want it to be a good experience.
Assuming the DInc2 isn't rooted prior to my purchase, what should I get? What are the odds looking like for getting root, Gingerbread ota, or anything like that? I fully intend to have this phone for 2 years.
Thanks!

i would go with the dinc2, but im a huge htc fan.

I have a Mesmerize (fascinate on a different carrier) and I definitely recommend the fassy. The dev community is fantastic. We almost have a fully funtiinal gingerbread cyanogenmod which will be amazing, by the time you get the phone it will definitely be done. It is a phone that will stand up well against newer phones. The dinc is not bad, but as you noted, it hasn't even been rooted. There is no development at all. I've used both phones, and I say, if you want to make your phone awesome on your own, get the fascinate but if you want it to be good out of the box get the dinc.
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Hmm...one vote for each...

if the inc2 is not rooted, i would go with the fascinate. If it is rooted, hands down i would pick the incredible 2 if you plan on rooting and romming it. I loved my original incredible and still use it even though i have moved on. It is a great device. IMO sense is a little better than touchwiz on the fascinate, but that is just me.

Well it isn't rooted yet...so that's the question. I don't know if it ever will be rooted.

I would go with the Incredible 2. The root is coming out soon and plus imo Sense is much better than Touchwiz.

I'd get the incredible 2 in my opinion it has a better camera, more ram , better build quality the only thing fascinate has better is an amoled screen

I like both phones a lot, but I would have to give the edge to the Incredible 2. The only advantage I would take the Fascinate for would be the sALMOED screen. It is truely stunning. But the Incredible 2's screen is also great (any screen on an Android phone would be a giant improvement over a BB screen lets face it). Slightly better specs plus Sense is much better than Touch wiz.

Fascinate........................

Thanks everyone! It looks like the bootloader is just about unlocked for the Incredible 2, so that is what I am going to go with!

Good choice.