Nexus7 / Tegra 3 still worth it? - General Questions and Answers

I keep reading bashing of Tegra 3 when compared to other newer CPU/GPU's (like the OMAP4470 or Exynos 5250), like how it's single-channel memory and how it's made to look more powerful than it actually is through "THD" apps and whatnot...does any of that hold true in day-to-day performance of a Nexus 7, though?
I mean, I can't say I find my Galaxy Nexus running Jelly Bean sluggish in the slightest, even underclocked, but in considering getting a Nexus 7, I wouldn't want it to only barely do high-end gaming and whatnot, or get forgotten when the Nexus 10 arrives. As much as I'd like the upcoming Nexus 10, it's literally double the price...

magus57 said:
I keep reading bashing of Tegra 3 when compared to other newer CPU/GPU's (like the OMAP4470 or Exynos 5250), like how it's single-channel memory and how it's made to look more powerful than it actually is through "THD" apps and whatnot...does any of that hold true in day-to-day performance of a Nexus 7, though?
I mean, I can't say I find my Galaxy Nexus running Jelly Bean sluggish in the slightest, even underclocked, but in considering getting a Nexus 7, I wouldn't want it to only barely do high-end gaming and whatnot, or get forgotten when the Nexus 10 arrives. As much as I'd like the upcoming Nexus 10, it's literally double the price...
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Nexus 7 32gb 3g. A quad core processor is 4 physical cores period. iPad users and tablet reviewers like to nitpick. Do you see anything else with jelly bean at that price? HD screen? No?
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Allanitomwesh said:
Nexus 7 32gb 3g. A quad core processor is 4 physical cores period. iPad users and tablet reviewers like to nitpick. Do you see anything else with jelly bean at that price? HD screen? No?
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I don't see what it being quad-core has to do with anything when there's dual-cores out better - the plain number of cores doesn't mean much. And no, nothing with Jelly Bean at that price as far as I know.

magus57 said:
I don't see what it being quad-core has to do with anything when there's dual-cores out better - the plain number of cores doesn't mean much. And no, nothing with Jelly Bean at that price as far as I know.
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Software can only get better,and a kindle fire/ipad mini can't get two more cores. You're sure a nexus will get updates,and with that kind of ram it won't lag. The processor being less capable than other NEWER processors doesn't make it a bad processor. It is still very,very capable. It's a sweet deal
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[Poll] Comparing flagship android devices of each brand

Hi there,
I would like to know how are the best phones popular and which one is the best. That is why I created this poll. If you would like me to add something in the poll, then just let me know, okay?
I am so eager to see the results.
Phones, that currently compete in this poll: Samsung Galaxy Nexus (Google flagship phone), Samsung Galaxy S III (Samsung flagship phone), HTC One X (HTC lagship phone), Motorola Razr Maxxx (Motorola flagship phone), Sony Xperia S (Sony flagship phone)
Note: Actually, Sony Xperia Acro S is better than Sony Xperia S. Anyway, I did not choose it because most people do not know, that this new beast is around. They are both really good, but Acro S is slightly better.
Feel free to post below.
Galaxy Nexus IMO. Especially with new Jelly Bean Although it's duel core and not quad core, it is as smooth as GS3 and also there are tons more ROMs and such. Also I really like the fact that you can easily root by fastboot commands
The Nexus will stay relevant for years to come so it's a better option in development terms.
However, for anything else, I'd say SGS3.
The Atrix HD is more of a Motorola flagship phone, despite a smaller battery it has better internals, and better screen (also shipped with ICS as opposed to being upgraded).
I'm on the xda app so I can't vote, but I think I'm going to vote for the Nexus, pure Google and fast updates.
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I like the Nexus for the on time updates, but in all other categories I prefer the Xperia, especially in terms of design.
I am wondering to see how I am the first one to vote Samsung Galaxy S3. Man, it has beaten HTC One X in almost all benchmarks...
The S3. Sure, the Nexus gets first dibs on official OS updates, but ROMs can fix that for pretty much any other device. You can alter the software, not the hardware
The atrix HD is a downgrade from the original atrix if you look at the specs. Razr maxxx is Motorola's flagship device for now.
Gotta be the s3, beats out the one x in every aspect so that's no competition. The razr is a joke, as is any Motorola phone to be honest. Uggghhh, motoblur. The only thing close to the s3 development wise is the nexus which obviously has more, but the s3's specs more than make up for that
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Nexus .galaxy s3 looks awesome but samsung wont give software updates after they release g4 or smthing.
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The atrix HD is a downgrade from the original atrix if you look at the specs. Razr maxxx is Motorola's flagship device for now.
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Uh...no.
OG Atrix is Tegra 2 1 GHz, Atrix HD is the S4 1.5 GHz (both dual core)
4 inch qHD screen vs 4.5 inch HD screen
And compare it to the RAZR Maxx
Atrix HD at 1.5 GHz S4, RAZR Maxx at 1.2 GHz TI OMAP (both dual core)
Atrix HD has 4.5 inch HD screen and Maxx has 4.3 inch qHD screen.
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It is HOX!!
kyokeun1234 said:
Galaxy Nexus IMO. Especially with new Jelly Bean Although it's duel core and not quad core, it is as smooth as GS3 and also there are tons more ROMs and such. Also I really like the fact that you can easily root by fastboot commands
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That's my boy :good: I prefer it, too.
I Am Marino said:
The Nexus will stay relevant for years to come so it's a better option in development terms.
However, for anything else, I'd say SGS3.
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Yeah yeah, but I am afraid, that Android 4.2 Key Lime Pie will not be officially available on Samsung Galaxy S III. I would have chosen Nexus because its cheaper on Android 4.1 faster and I dont like the look of Touchwiz.
I also hate "Designed for humans. Inspired by nature" Samsung actually lacks creativity. All the galaxy series are similar to iPhone appeareance and Touchwiz is similar to iOS. That is the only thing I hate about Samsung....that they copy everything. But Nexus has neither of it. S III has copied curved body of Nexus, too.
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The Atrix HD is more of a Motorola flagship phone, despite a smaller battery it has better internals, and better screen (also shipped with ICS as opposed to being upgraded).
I'm on the xda app so I can't vote, but I think I'm going to vote for the Nexus, pure Google and fast updates.
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Yeah, in my view, Nexus is the best option. Do you want me to add Atrix HD on the poll?
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I like the Nexus for the on time updates, but in all other categories I prefer the Xperia, especially in terms of design.
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Yeah, but Nexus is faster even though it has got proccessor with lower clock. But this processor was designed to run at 1.5 GHz so it can be overclocked easily without damaging your phone. I hae heard that Xperia has problems with the sensor buttons.
I also do not get why almost all the manufacturers make the "context menu button" when they come with Android 4.0. Its useless....S III could have had 3 buttons and instead of "context menu button" should have added the "recent apps button".
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Nexus .galaxy s3 looks awesome but samsung wont give software updates after they release g4 or smthing.
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Exactly
MultiLockOn said:
Gotta be the s3, beats out the one x in every aspect so that's no competition. The razr is a joke, as is any Motorola phone to be honest. Uggghhh, motoblur. The only thing close to the s3 development wise is the nexus which obviously has more, but the s3's specs more than make up for that
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Yeah but the S III looks like s**t. In other terms, I agree with you, but they are both about the same.
SachinShekhar said:
I am wondering to see how I am the first one to vote Samsung Galaxy S3. Man, it has beaten HTC One X in almost all benchmarks...
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Benchmarks dont mean much. Especially Quadrant, which is really bad. You can score 3000 but you wont be faster than newer and better device, which score 1500. I think that Samsung Exynos Quad core is faster than Tegra 3.
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The atrix HD is a downgrade from the original atrix if you look at the specs. Razr maxxx is Motorola's flagship device for now.
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I am not really sure :fingers-crossed:

Just wanted to say....

Farewell to my Sky rocket community. Its has been fun I had this bad boy for 9 months the longest I ever hAD A PHONE..LOL. and the longest Ive been part of such a talented community i will miss reading those FLAMES and general rants and the occasional thefts... those who been around know..lol some of the sickest development I ever had the pleasure of tinkering with to make this phone a monster. hats off to the DEVS who are truly ANDROIDS!!
just sold this s o b for $250 and tomorrow its GS III time.. hope to see you guys over there... CHEERS!!
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Farewell to my Sky rocket community. Its has been fun I had this bad boy for 9 months the longest I ever hAD A PHONE..LOL. and the longest Ive been part of such a talented community i will miss reading those FLAMES and general rants and the occasional thefts... those who been around know..lol some of the sickest development I ever had the pleasure of tinkering with to make this phone a monster. hats off to the DEVS who are truly ANDROIDS!!
just sold this s o b for $250 and tomorrow its GS III time.. hope to see you guys over there... CHEERS!!
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:'(..................................cya......................
M0D1441 said:
:'(..................................cya......................
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lol... hope to see you over there cooking one day
9 months >. > where do people go to piss money to buy new phones so often?
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dakpluto said:
9 months >. > where do people go to piss money to buy new phones so often?
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Buy/Sell, pay difference
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9 months >. > where do people go to piss money to buy new phones so often?
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craigslist bro just sold my skyrocket for $250 there and Ive had an upgrade Ive been saving on my line for a while so i get the gs 3 for 199.99 when i got my skyrocket i used another line's upgrade back in nov.
its called phone flipping get on board my man..
but we are getting so shafted on the dual core T999... why you no buy international
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but we are getting so shafted on the dual core T999... why you no buy international
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I wouldn't really say shafted, the dual core is faster and more power efficient than the previous S3 CPU and you get 2GB of ram rather than 1GB making multitasking much smoother. I've been hearing the Exynos quad to be a monster at eating battery if not tweaked (disable 2 cores etc...) and there are barely any apps/games that support more than 1 thread for phones aside from benchmarks. Thats pretty much like getting a 6 or 8 core CPU for PC yet the games/programs you use only use 2-4 cores and the only real benefit is if you use 3d programing/rendering/casting/encoding etc... but if you go to phone usage, doubt many utilize the full dual core.
So while the S4 only has 2 cores its still fast, if you have a quad core version of it you get this:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/24/qualcomm-snapdragon-s4-pro-apq8064-benchmark/
And we know getting that type of benchmark wont really be battery friendly will it?
later man. enjoy the gs3.
Bros before phones?
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Is the S3 really such a big step up from the SR?
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sly-tendencies said:
Is the S3 really such a big step up from the SR?
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Not really but it's still nice
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orlandoxpolice said:
Not really but it's still nice
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I messed with one today, been trying to figure out where to get good $$$ for my skyrocket
sly-tendencies said:
Is the S3 really such a big step up from the SR?
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Two generations better CPU, a slightly better GPU, a higher resolution from 480x800 to 720x1280, longer battery life, more efficient LTE with better signal, better build, zero lag shutter camera...yes, its a big leap
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M0D1441 said:
Two generations better CPU, a slightly better GPU, a higher resolution from 480x800 to 720x1280, longer battery life, more efficient LTE with better signal, better build, zero lag shutter camera...yes, its a big leap
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Not big enough for me to take
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What exactly will a better CPU offer, at this moment. I mean that in the sense that I don't see where my experience would improve in any way. Perhaps SwiftKey won't have an occasional hick up but even that's no guarantee. Besides that there's nothing I can do on an S3 that won't operate with the same usability as it would on my S2.
Still, to each his own, for me the only improvement would be resolution which I would unfortunately ruin with the nice feel of a matte anti glare cover. What I want is an S3 with guaranteed software updates going forward. Meaning ill be waiting until the next Nexus.
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sly-tendencies said:
Is the S3 really such a big step up from the SR?
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If we take from a hardware standpoint here are the key differences:
CPU:
Snapdragon S3 MSM8260 45nm 1.5GHz (Dual Core)-> Snapdragon S4 MSM8960 28nm 1.5GHz (Dual Core)
(Here we see the die shrink, with die shrinks on new architecture you can see battery improvements, temperature improvements and clock per clock speeds its faster)
GPU:
Adreno 220 -> Adreno 225
RAM:
1GB Single Channel -> 2GB Dual Channel
Display:
480x800 -> 720x1280
Gorilla Glass 1 -> Gorilla Glass 2
Of course there is a lot of other features/hardware that are "better" such as camera and stock battery etc...
In terms of the phone itself, the SR is not lacking since its still a dual core phones while other phones are still single and working their way to dual core. Quad core are starting to arise but they wont be as efficient for a while since the games/apps we use will not take advantage of all the cores. That being said by the time we do utilize them most likely there will be a newer and better hardware. Also 720p may start becoming the next standard in display as "HD" is making its way onto phones. If you think about hardware difference, think of Samsung Galaxy S2 as 1, Skyrocket as 1.5 and Galaxy S3 as 2. S3 (North America) is still dual core but it is an efficient/fast CPU.
Good example of this is like PC specs:
Q6600 = Quad (65nm)
Q9550 = Quad (45nm)
i5 760 = Quad (45nm)
i5 2500K = Quad (32nm)
i5 3570K = Quad (28nm)
What I mean about that is the standard has started to become quad in the CPU/laptop world but the big difference is the efficiency(power consumption), speed (clock per clock) and maybe other supported hardware features.
So is it a big step up?.... Yes and no, yes because hardwarewise it is better but the SR isnt lacking to the point where ICS/JB lags on it or any other apps/games atm. Of course if you have insane graphical games maybe it will slug the SR in terms of performance but thats entirely on what you use it for. Ask the same question next year and you'll probably hear the same, the S3 is not lacking but xxx (S4 or whatever is "faster"). Technology will always get better its just whether you want to pay to get the latest and greatest or not.
I buy my gear based on my use. You wont see me buying computers that are 6-8 cores, Quad SLI/CFX video cards or whatever because I don't need them lol. My hardware is fully capable of playing the current games so thats what I usually upgrade for, my uses.
If you compare the SR to the S3 of course you will see a good difference but if you only use the phone for facebook, instagram, twitter, calling, texting, whatever, the SR can do those. Now if it can't do those and its slow and always dying on you and programs aren't working and super super sluggish then yeah those are the reasons for the upgrade.
Now if we go to the development side yes, phones like Galaxy Nexus, Galaxy S2 (original) and Galaxy S3 will have big support as most people get them when they first come out so if you want to look for it in that view they have more popularity. Some people want to get the phones that everyones getting while others don't want the "same exact" one but on a similar page.
Way to go and spoon feed insane amount of info lol... Good stuff
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but we are getting so shafted on the dual core T999... why you no buy international
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international does not support LTE and these two are faster plus 2gb of RAM
M0D1441 said:
Two generations better CPU, a slightly better GPU, a higher resolution from 480x800 to 720x1280, longer battery life, more efficient LTE with better signal, better build, zero lag shutter camera...yes, its a big leap
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couldnt have said it better ..

im angry at asus, suggest another tablet?

im quite angry at asus for issues with my TF700, how they supply the tools to void your warranty on a bootloader thats unfixable with any means so that they can charge people to reflash the bootloaders... it makes me angry that theyd do this...
i really liked the features of this tablet.. 1080P+ screen, tegra 3 processor, great cameras with flash... but now im just really disappointed, and i want something thatll actually allow me to work with custom roms, i wanted to get all of the useless nonsense off my tablet, strip it down to the features i only cares about and not have tons of bloatware...
are there any tablets of equal performance and hardware features that is more friendly towards this?
the acer A700 looked nice but i really like the LED flash, makes great pictures even better, and i used it as a flashlight too
i see googles coming out with a nexus 10, but since these are made by asus i have a feeling theyre going to have the same problems, also, i dont believe its a tegra 3 processor?
what would your recommendations be?
Erm, maybe a Nexus 10?
Btw, someone is going to give you a link to this thread anyway, so I'll just save them the trouble: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1846277
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actually.. i just read a nexus 10 is made by samsung, not asus... interesting... hmm, how does the nexus 10s processor stand up to a 1.6ghz tegra 3 though?
jason41987 said:
actually.. i just read a nexus 10 is made by samsung, not asus... interesting... hmm, how does the nexus 10s processor stand up to a 1.6ghz tegra 3 though?
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It has an Exynos 5250. Quad-Core 1.7 GHz ARM15 (!). Yes, ARM15. Total monster processor. No mobile CPU beats it
There's a catch. Cyanogenmod dropped official support for all Exynos CPUs, but that shouldn't be a problem because it's a Nexus device, so you should expect a ridiculous amount of development and plenty of unofficial CM
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It has an Exynos 5250. Quad-Core 1.7 GHz ARM15 (!). Yes, ARM15. Total monster processor. No mobile CPU beats it
There's a catch. Cyanogenmod dropped official support for all Exynos CPUs, but that shouldn't be a problem because it's a Nexus device, so you should expect a ridiculous amount of development and plenty of unofficial CM
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so in short... the nexus 10 is the absolute beast of a tablet that puts all tablets its size to shame... with a higher resolution screen is it the true ipad killer people have been wanting?
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so in short... the nexus 10 is the absolute beast of a tablet that puts all tablets its size to shame... with a higher resolution screen is it the true ipad killer people have been wanting?
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Oh heck yes baby!
Problem 1... damn hard to get one in the Nexus rush 32GBs out of stock and maybe 16GB too...? Have to wait a while, but that's a good thing to let them sort out any issues with the first batch sold
Btw typo, the CPU is dual core, the GPU is quad core
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[Q] Nexus 7.7 - Worth the wait?

Hey there,
I have been saving for a Nexus 7 tablet, but have now heard rumors that a Nexus 7.7 will be released.
I have tried to gather as much information as possible, but nothing is concrete.
It is scheduled to be released in May at Google's I/O Conference.
Apparently, it has two 720p HD cameras, a front and rear facing, a 7.7 inch display, and a higher PPI (294)
It will be running the new Android, 5.0, Key Lime Pie.
I'm unsure as to whether I should buy a Nexus 7 basically next weekend, or wait until May and grab a 7.7
Do you think they will bring Lime Pie to the current Nexus 7?
Peace,
shandy1996
That depends on what's bringing the 7.7
Why don't you wait for real info?
I have heard rumors that next nexus device will be coming with tegra 4..
It can easily beat snapdragon 800..
And can even play 1080p video with 120fps..so just wait its going to be awesome
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easily beat snapdragon 800..
play 1080p video with 120fps..
so just wait its .... awesome.....
Since nividia released tegra 3 ...samsung has released exynos 4 and 5 ...Qualcomm released s4 s4 pro s600 s800...
But nividia was probably working hard for a year and result is tegra 4..
No comparison..
Lets see these r just rumors or anything else..
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when is it going to come out?
It is expected to release in august this year
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Google Conference in May.....
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It is expected to release in august this year
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IT is actually scheduled to be released in May at Google's I/O Conference.
Just a heads up, it will be live on the internet as well.
I just got news from some website that s800 will be 2.3 ghz quad core with aderno 330 gpu and tegra 4 will be 1.8 ghz quadcore.. But highly gaming optimized.. I saw some videos..it makes huge difference
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wait for the next nexus you won't regret it
I was looking at what just recently is coming or came out the xperia z, htc one and galaxy s4. The sad part none of these offer a 7.0 or 7.7 size screen and charge more than double the price of the nexus. I like google's philosophy sell the products half of the same price of a high end smartphone without subsidizing or contracts or locking phones and sell atleast 4x more and allow more of the population to own a high end tablet or smartphone rather than sell a smartphone or tablet at double the price and only capture a margin of the population with the exemption of samsung anything samsung sells makes money. Obviously the new features on the new smartphones that came out recently were 1080p screen quad core processors clocked at 1.5ghz upto 1.7ghz, more storage memory and ram upto 2gigs the camera will be the only lacking feature but you can still do 720p video which is decent. Xperia missed the boat offering a 5inch smartphone and 10inch tablet i was waiting for a 7.0 or 7.7 phablet which is what made google popular in the first place still can be carried around in a coat pocket, same with htc only samsung will come out with a new 7.7 tablet but the prices are insane even more than a smartphone the next nexus may cost $249 wifi only or $300 for mobile capabilities built in will be much more affordable so in other words it's worth the 45day wait til the announcement happens only problem is availability the first place will be california have to shop there or wait another 30 or so days after.
Of course the nexus 7 will get key lime pie
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Depends on what you want to do with it. I bought the Nexus 7 2 months ago and I won't buy the next one. This one is just perfect for me, Asus did a great job on it. There's also a big community of devs and it's a good argument.
Current nexus 7 would be enough for me too if it supported miracast...too bad

Gs4 = Gs3+

Hi, I have been using the GS4 i9500 so called Octocore for 2-3 days. I had and still have the GS3 T-Mobile US variant for 6 months and love it. So once I bought the GS4 I thought this is going to be so much faster that comparing the dual core to 8 core I was thinking it was going to be like big difference. But now thatbim using it side by side I see no difference in anything. I think Samsung became the Apple.
Please dont fight, its just interesting how you guys feel?
I know we spent $750 to $850 on this, but dont you think this is not innovation?
Every time a company gets successful it becomes crap.
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You have a point here. Maybe the speeds aren't very visible , the S4 comes with all those fancy addons. And believe me I would buy the S4 and wouldn't regret. This is just my opinion
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Well the S3 is still a good phone. Most people upgrade every 2-3 years, not every year.
Oh god, not this thread again.....
In before the lock in 3, 2, 1...
Take the bloat off of it then test.. bloatware is the biggest problem on every phone.
My gs3 is running super smooth for 3 days on one charge thanks to boeffla kernel and no bloat.
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Im not buying it just for the speed though
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Take the bloat off of it then test.. bloatware is the biggest problem on every phone.
My gs3 is running super smooth for 3 days on one charge thanks to boeffla kernel and no bloat.
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Bloat isn't causing the lag. It's touchwiz. Jesus I've heard this nonsense so many times.
Lag is the worst issue to deal with and it's getting publicity. I'm sure Samsung will fast track an update.
Every new phone has issues.
Sense 3 use to cause lag and htc finally did something about it. I'm sure Samsung will be quicker about it.
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Oh god, not this thread again.....
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Why we cant compare? If we cant then what is the point of this place? We are just discussing.
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How can a 8core phone feel the same as the 2core? Then we just need 1 big core like 3 gigahertz.
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Well the S3 is still a good phone. Most people upgrade every 2-3 years, not every year.
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Hehe apparently I am not like most people
Now I use my galaxy note ii LTE as my work mobile (I work as a welder), when I come home I switch SIM to my galaxy s4. Before I got the s4, I used my s3 as my work phone. Now I use the s3 as my primary backup phone
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How can a 8core phone feel the same as the 2core? Then we just need 1 big core like 3 gigahertz.
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I9500 version doesn't have 8 Cores working simultaneously.
Read the below link:
http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-to-boost-performance-of-galaxy-s4-202912/
The Snapdragon is a quad-core while the Octa has eight cores. But here is the thing, the Octa is used in such a way that only four cores are used at any time. The chip has four low power Cortex A7 cores and four Cortex A15 cores. The A15 core is vastly superior in terms of performance, compared to the A7, but the A7 is great for battery life. So the Exynos Octa uses the A7 cores by default and then when things get busy the A15 cores are activated while the A7 cores are shut down. This means that the Exynos Octa only uses a maximum of four cores at once, making it the same as a quad-core processor but with some clever power saving technology.
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samomamo said:
Hi, I have been using the GS4 i9500 so called Octocore for 2-3 days. I had and still have the GS3 T-Mobile US variant for 6 months and love it. So once I bought the GS4 I thought this is going to be so much faster that comparing the dual core to 8 core I was thinking it was going to be like big difference. But now thatbim using it side by side I see no difference in anything. I think Samsung became the Apple.
Please dont fight, its just interesting how you guys feel?
I know we spent $750 to $850 on this, but dont you think this is not innovation?
Every time a company gets successful it becomes crap.
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If you don't like it sell it and move on. There are those of us that are very happy to have the S4 in hand right now. The 1080p, bigger battery, better processor, better GPU, slimmer profile, reduced weight, bigger screen, pixel density, 8 cores (yes it's only a combo of 4 cores now, but when linaro is updated soon it will be all 8). I traded my Note 2 for this and couldn't be happier.
samomamo said:
Hi, I have been using the GS4 i9500 so called Octocore for 2-3 days. I had and still have the GS3 T-Mobile US variant for 6 months and love it. So once I bought the GS4 I thought this is going to be so much faster that comparing the dual core to 8 core I was thinking it was going to be like big difference. But now thatbim using it side by side I see no difference in anything. I think Samsung became the Apple.
Please dont fight, its just interesting how you guys feel?
I know we spent $750 to $850 on this, but dont you think this is not innovation?
Every time a company gets successful it becomes crap.
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Wasn't expecting this stupid thread for an experienced guy. Why the hell did you bought it then? People who buy any phone without doing proper research deserves to be ditched. Sorry for being too harsh, just give this phone some time, a few days and you will start loving it. It is multiple steps ahead of gs3. Many people have already quoted that this phone isn't slow, its just 4.2 is not fully optimized with GS4.
samomamo said:
How can a 8core phone feel the same as the 2core? Then we just need 1 big core like 3 gigahertz.
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Its a 4+4 and not a 8 core cpu.
shox22 said:
Its a 4+4 and not a 8 core cpu.
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All 8 cores can be running at a same time with an updated kernel (3.8 Linux), but not available now.
essentially with the 1080p upgrade, it did need all the processing power upgrades. as far as everything else goes, opening apps and stuff like that depends more on the internal memory speeds, like having a solid state disk on your computer at home... so yea the gs3 was not slow.
when you get into gaming and other things like that, the gs4 was a huge upgrade. i personally am looking forward to the huge battery. it will compare to the gs3 (maybe a small boost) as far as the screen time goes but it'll be easily a 25% boost over the gs3 for standby times
also, technology can only go so fast. imo, it's part of moore's law really. samsung took the more common way around this, by adding more cores. also they took the route of changing the gpu type not just upgrading the same gpu.
the only thing that was not an upgrade, and its funny that everyone complains about it, is the internal memory size.
in a nutshell.. if you upgrade your phone every year, you wont get a huge upgrade in quality. and if you did, something was wrong with the design of the older phone.
im coming from a droid 3 and its going to be a MASSIVE upgrade for me. more than 4 times as powerful, with easily twice the amount of features if not more. almost twice the battery size, 1" larger screen.... 1080p instead of 540p lol
vinandy said:
I9500 version doesn't have 8 Cores working simultaneously.
Read the below link:
http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-to-boost-performance-of-galaxy-s4-202912/
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The Exynos 5 Octa CPU is not supposed to use 8 cores at the same time. It's created to use either the 4x A7 cores or the 4x A15 cores in the CPU. So yeah, that's how it's supposed to work
Oh also, this is to the op. I wouldn't call the Galaxy S IV for a Galaxy S III+. If you only looks at the design, then maybe yeah, but if you look on the new hardware, there are alot of new things in the Galaxy S IV that make it more than just a little upgrade from the Galaxy S III.
i love the gaming In GS4 rather than the Qualcomm One... 60Fps Awesome!
whatmore do you want from a phone..
Just Lock this Thread MOD... Freedom of speech is still limited on xda
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The S3 is still a very capable phone and still competes today with all other new flagship phones.

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