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I don't get what I am so suppose to be in love with when it comes to the SII vs Infuse 4g.
Now I am strictly comparing the US Specced SII (european I suppose as well since it is the same) vs Infuse 4g.
The infuse has a bigger screen and bigger battery.
The S2 has dual core and a small battery and smaller screen.
So I am going to get dual core eating monster with a smaller battery? Battery life on the Infuse is OK, good, but nothing crazy. The S2 must be awful?
Now if we were getting the 1.5ghz dual core with some form of LTE I could see a little more attraction.
personally though I'll be olding off for something better.

Dual core
1 gig of ram
It's only slightly smaller - actually feels better in your hand.
Gingerbread 2.3.4 from the carrier
Better GPS lock
I'm still wondering if it has the chip needed for voodoo sound though...

It's not a huge difference but you get gingerbread out the box, touchwiz 4.0, dual core, 1080p recording, hdmi(infuse as well), thx soluscado totally slipped my mind, etc. The infuse is ok but i'm probably getting rid of mine. The checkered loading is driving me crazy.

I agree with the OP. The dual core proc seems like a "meh" addition, especially considering the battery trade-off. I just don't use TouchWiz anyway, so that's irrelevant. The bigger screen is a BIG deal to me, and any video I take with my phone is displayed on my phone, so 1080p recording is irrelevant. I'm pretty sure you get HDMI out on the Infuse as well, but I have no use for that either. And the Gingerbread enhancements are so minor (to me) that I really couldn't care less whether it's available OOB or not.

crawlgsx said:
I don't get what I am so suppose to be in love with when it comes to the SII vs Infuse 4g.
Now I am strictly comparing the US Specced SII (european I suppose as well since it is the same) vs Infuse 4g.
The infuse has a bigger screen and bigger battery.
The S2 has dual core and a small battery and smaller screen.
So I am going to get dual core eating monster with a smaller battery? Battery life on the Infuse is OK, good, but nothing crazy. The S2 must be awful?
Now if we were getting the 1.5ghz dual core with some form of LTE I could see a little more attraction.
personally though I'll be olding off for something better.
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What you said.

Yea no point. I'll stick with my infuse until samsung releases an lte phone on att like ours or the s2. Or wait for googles next phone and hope that is lte as well.
Dual core is not enough reason to upgrade, I want real 4g speeds.
Infuse running Serendipity VII

If the GPS chip is better than that of the infuse then I'm switching. I use the GPS more than anything else on the phone and that is a deal breaker for me. If the infuse had a perfect working GPS, I'd take it over the s2 anyday.
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The battery life on the sgs2 i don't thinks all that bad. The battery.2 inch screen difference i hardly notice, gb is awesome. Mines yet to show any sign of lag at all. I haven't even touched the infuse since i got the sgs2. Once gb comes out ill use it. Until then though ill stick with gb and my dual core .
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VtHondaGuy08 said:
The battery life on the sgs2 i don't thinks all that bad. The battery.2 inch screen difference i hardly notice, gb is awesome. Mines yet to show any sign of lag at all. I haven't even touched the infuse since i got the sgs2. Once gb comes out ill use it. Until then though ill stick with gb and my dual core .
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Lol but auto text on it is a total fail.... Hopefully you guys understand.
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I know this topic has come up a few times in the month or so I've owned my infuse and watched these forums, and I'm sure I'm not the only one wondering if it's worth the switch to the AT&T-branded SGSII. Honestly the thing I'd have wanted most from the European SGSII was the physical Home button, but that didn't make it over here (needs more patent litigation).
I do agree that the .2" off the screen is actually a bonus; 4.3" screens feel a lot nicer when using to chat--somehow the AT&T SGSII is more than .2" off in both dimensions (4.96" x 2.60" vs. 5.2" x 2.8" according to Samsung). Still, a fifth of an inch either way isn't a deal-breaker for me either way.
The dual core SGSII processor is obviously the big difference, and I have yet to see anyone post a compelling, non-anecdotal reason to have a second core on a phone. I don't know many people who have felt their Infuse was insufficiently responsive, and no game I've run has had any noticeable lag on the Infuse, though my experience is hardly extensive.
Does anyone know how much RAM the AT&T SGSII has? If it had the full gig that the Euro version has, that'd also be a nice bonus, as I have managed to fill up the sub-half-gig that the Infuse has available.
The last feature I think deserves mention is NFC, which the ATT SGSII does have, reportedly. Not that I really expect to be paying by NFC any time soon, but what are we if not nerds who want more features on our phones?

teiglin said:
I know this topic has come up a few times in the month or so I've owned my infuse and watched these forums, and I'm sure I'm not the only one wondering if it's worth the switch to the AT&T-branded SGSII. Honestly the thing I'd have wanted most from the European SGSII was the physical Home button, but that didn't make it over here (needs more patent litigation).
I do agree that the .2" off the screen is actually a bonus; 4.3" screens feel a lot nicer when using to chat--somehow the AT&T SGSII is more than .2" off in both dimensions (4.96" x 2.60" vs. 5.2" x 2.8" according to Samsung). Still, a fifth of an inch either way isn't a deal-breaker for me either way.
The dual core SGSII processor is obviously the big difference, and I have yet to see anyone post a compelling, non-anecdotal reason to have a second core on a phone. I don't know many people who have felt their Infuse was insufficiently responsive, and no game I've run has had any noticeable lag on the Infuse, though my experience is hardly extensive.
Does anyone know how much RAM the AT&T SGSII has? If it had the full gig that the Euro version has, that'd also be a nice bonus, as I have managed to fill up the sub-half-gig that the Infuse has available.
The last feature I think deserves mention is NFC, which the ATT SGSII does have, reportedly. Not that I really expect to be paying by NFC any time soon, but what are we if not nerds who want more features on our phones?
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looks like 512 ram NOT 100% sure though

I wouldn't bet on better GPS lock
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dajeoo said:
I wouldn't bet on better GPS lock
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Mine is def a netter lock then on my infuse.
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There isn't a single thing that the Infuse beats the SGS II in. It ties in a few places like camera, but that's it. The SGS II is the best Android phone in existence, and the Infuse probably wouldn't have even been the best of 2010.

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looks like 512 ram NOT 100% sure though
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It's 1GB of RAM total, and like 800 MB for the user.

MikeyMike01 said:
It's 1GB of RAM total, and like 800 MB for the user.
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If its anything like the Euro version it has 839mb ram for the user.
And I agree Mikey it is probably the best Android phone out there!

Do we know if its ddr2 ram? What about the i/o tech? That LG is dual something or other.
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MikeyMike01 said:
There isn't a single thing that the Infuse beats the SGS II in. It ties in a few places like camera, but that's it. The SGS II is the best Android phone in existence, and the Infuse probably wouldn't have even been the best of 2010.
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I don't think i can agree with that. I havent yet used one, but i cam say that having the largest and brightest display on the market is a huge plus for me. Regardless of whether it may seem like a better deal, i feel that the sgs2 is basically a smaller infuse. It looks the same and does all the same things. Really can't count gb as a plus either since we already have it on the infuse and an official version by the time the sgs2 is readily available to most. I can't see any advantage to 1080p either since it will just eat up more of that inferior battery. Just my 2 cents.
Edit: on top of all that, i don't know why u said 2010? you meant 2011? even if that was so i find that hard tp believe also. Considering that feature for feature, the Infuse was the best overall android device you could buy here in the U.S. when it was released. That said, the only real reason the Infuse hasn't out sold the competition is the lack of hype behind it and a very quiet release by Samsung. Quite unlike the sgs2 which is released first in their most local market. It obviously is pointed towards the more general technophile audience. The infuse i feel was directed towards the huge media phone freaks.
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tazbo28 said:
I don't think i can agree with that. I havent yet used one, but i cam say that having the largest and brightest display on the market is a huge plus for me. Regardless of whether it may seem like a better deal, i feel that the sgs2 is basically a smaller infuse. It looks the same and does all the same things. Really can't count gb as a plus either since we already have it on the infuse and an official version by the time the sgs2 is readily available to most. I can't see any advantage to 1080p either since it will just eat up more of that inferior battery. Just my 2 cents.
Edit: on top of all that, i don't know why u said 2010? you meant 2011? even if that was so i find that hard tp believe also. Considering that feature for feature, the Infuse was the best overall android device you could buy here in the U.S. when it was released. That said, the only real reason the Infuse hasn't out sold the competition is the lack of hype behind it and a very quiet release by Samsung. Quite unlike the sgs2 which is released first in their most local market. It obviously is pointed towards the more general technophile audience. The infuse i feel was directed towards the huge media phone freaks.
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Report back after you have held and used one!
you will see the difference for sure
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tazbo28 said:
Edit: on top of all that, i don't know why u said 2010?
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I said 2010 on purpose. That's where single core Froyo phones belong.

G2x > Galaxy Nexus

Here is why I love my G2x OVER the Galaxy Nexus
1) I have this phone on a two year contract
2) HDMI Port, as small as it is, I don't want to use a dongle or any crap thing like that to hook up my phone as an hdmi output
2) Micro SD Card. They didn't mention it....and I wouldn't be surprised if Samsung left this out.....such as the Galaxy Tab 10.1
3) 8MP Camera, the camera on the G2x is SOLID. If LG could just get their as*es in gear and get this working fully on a new Ice Cream Sandwich rom.
4) The Nexus is better only because of the Super AMOLED and Ice Cream Sandwich. I personally can live without the AMOLED and I know for a fact if LG doesn't update to Ice Cream Sandwich that the Awesome Devs here will.
First person that has a full working ICS rom for the G2x I am donating too, and I would suggest others do as well, This is how we keep the G2x on top.
The G2x is a BEAST.....And I love that I picked this phone.
Thanks to all the support from the Devs, can't wait to see the wicked work you guys put into this next generation of Android.
If LG was smart they would get a beta test of Ice Cream Sandwich out on this phone like yesterday. This phone can take on the NExUS
What's all of your thoughts? Still glad you have the G2x? Think it's better than the Nexus?
@wcbales

wbales said:
Here is why I love my G2x OVER the Galaxy Nexus
1) I have this phone on a two year contract
2) HDMI Port, as small as it is, I don't want to use a dongle or any crap thing like that to hook up my phone as an hdmi output
2) Micro SD Card. They didn't mention it....and I wouldn't be surprised if Samsung left this out.....such as the Galaxy Tab 10.1
3) 8MP Camera, the camera on the G2x is SOLID. If LG could just get their as*es in gear and get this working fully on a new Ice Cream Sandwich rom.
4) The Nexus is better only because of the Super AMOLED and Ice Cream Sandwich. I personally can live without the AMOLED and I know for a fact if LG doesn't update to Ice Cream Sandwich that the Awesome Devs here will.
First person that has a full working ICS rom for the G2x I am donating too, and I would suggest others do as well, This is how we keep the G2x on top.
The G2x is a BEAST.....And I love that I picked this phone.
Thanks to all the support from the Devs, can't wait to see the wicked work you guys put into this next generation of Android.
If LG was smart they would get a beta test of Ice Cream Sandwich out on this phone like yesterday. This phone can take on the NExUS
What's all of your thoughts? Still glad you have the G2x? Think it's better than the Nexus?
@wcbales
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Your reasoning is slightly retarded
1- you should love when ur not on contract...keeps options open.
2- really? 16-32 gb is plenty especially with cloud based services on the horizon
3-wow....samsung makes some of the best cameras on mobiles. MP don't determine everything...
4- amoled....isp close enough for me.....but without source ICS might be tough
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Smallsmx3 said:
Your reasoning is slightly retarded
1- you should love when ur not on contract...keeps options open.
2- really? 16-32 gb is plenty especially with cloud based services on the horizon
3-wow....samsung makes some of the best cameras on mobiles. MP don't determine everything...
4- amoled....isp close enough for me.....but without source ICS might be tough
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32gb is less than my g2x. i have a 100GB music collection and i'd like to take as much with me as possible; g2x has onboard storage (4GB? 8GB?) on top of my 32GB card. 8GB makes a huge difference, especially when there will likely be no expandable memory.
true, MP doesn't mean everything. but isn't this very similar, if not basically the same camera as the nexus s? even if the camera performs well, i think it's a little cheap to not give it a 3MP bump to 8MP.

Cool 100gb of music.....if your not using spotify to stream amd trying to put 100gb of mudic on a mobile your an idiot.....true the bump in the cam would be nice...but if they had to squeeze a smaller sensor to pack in all the other goodies then ill take it...
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Smallsmx3 said:
Cool 100gb of music.....if your not using spotify to stream amd trying to put 100gb of mudic on a mobile your an idiot.....true the bump in the cam would be nice...but if they had to squeeze a smaller sensor to pack in all the other goodies then ill take it...
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Streaming and cloud services are great...
Except every US carrier except Sprint limits your data usage and Sprint quite possibly is going to as well.

Smallsmx3 said:
Cool 100gb of music.....if your not using spotify to stream amd trying to put 100gb of mudic on a mobile your an idiot.....true the bump in the cam would be nice...but if they had to squeeze a smaller sensor to pack in all the other goodies then ill take it...
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if you're going to try to call me an idiot, please do so with proper grammar. it's a bit hard to take you seriously when you can't even present yourself intelligibly.
clearly, i don't put 100GB of music on my mobile; it was merely an example. the GN skimped on storage, plain and simple. the iPhone gets a lot of flack for being slightly behind the technological curve but even now, it's offered in 64GB. why is this not the same? a bit lacking if you ask me. android phones have come out and absolutely destroyed the iPhone's specifications. i expected a lot more from google and samsung if this was truly going to be a revolutionary phone. it's clearly not.
also, an 8MP sensor is barely larger than a 5MP sensor; that's far from a reasonable excuse for not including it, especially considering how huge the handset is. with EU prices announced, the intention clearly wasn't to make the smartphone cheap. this is the new flagship device for the entire android platform- i can't be alone in being disappointed.

ericalanMICHAEL said:
if you're going to try to call me an idiot, please do so with proper grammar. it's a bit hard to take you seriously when you can't even present yourself intelligibly.
clearly, i don't put 100GB of music on my mobile; it was merely an example. the GN skimped on storage, plain and simple. the iPhone gets a lot of flack for being slightly behind the technological curve but even now, it's offered in 64GB. why is this not the same? a bit lacking if you ask me. android phones have come out and absolutely destroyed the iPhone's specifications. i expected a lot more from google and samsung if this was truly going to be a revolutionary phone. it's clearly not.
also, an 8MP sensor is barely larger than a 5MP sensor; that's far from a reasonable excuse for not including it, especially considering how huge the handset is. with EU prices announced, the intention clearly wasn't to make the smartphone cheap. this is the new flagship device for the entire android platform- i can't be alone in being disappointed.
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IMO, the Nexus S and the Galaxy Nexus were intentionally gimped by Samsung in order to sell their own, Touchwiz based handsets instead.

Smallsmx3 said:
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+1. IMO your main reason is money. Cos clearly, the next Nexus will probably be thee best phone in the market once its released. I bet if you had the money to buy the Galaxy Nexus you wouldn't say that about the G2x.
And yes i do love my G2X but Technology is way too fast to keep up with...so there will always be better phones than our beloved G2X.

JaiaV said:
Except every US carrier except Sprint limits your data usage and Sprint quite possibly is going to as well.
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I doubt that, unlimited data is pretty much their only selling point at the moment.
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Don't u all think the nexus should have beafier hardware? To me, I think the prime isn't any better than the sg2!
I was hoping for something strong enough to really slap apples iPhone 4s out but we will see.
As far as this g2x versus a prime?
Prime I would love to have cuz its faster and more than likely gonna get all the updates in the word
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wbales said:
Here is why I love my G2x OVER the Galaxy Nexus
1) I have this phone on a two year contract I buy off contract
2) HDMI Port, as small as it is, I don't want to use a dongle or any crap thing like that to hook up my phone as an hdmi output HDMI port on my G2x feels like it's gonna break off you have to shove the plug in so hard, and slight movement causes it to cut out. Neither T-Mobile or LG will do anything...but HDMI out is great on other phones
2) Micro SD Card. They didn't mention it....and I wouldn't be surprised if Samsung left this out.....such as the Galaxy Tab 10.1 I've never added storage beyond an 8gb card...most of my streaming is on wi-fi, and if data use is really that big a deal I can tether to my Sprint lines...at this point the cloud is where it's at
3) 8MP Camera, the camera on the G2x is SOLID. If LG could just get their as*es in gear and get this working fully on a new Ice Cream Sandwich rom. G2x camera is great, but if the sensor is even higher quality on the GN I can deal with a MP drop...
4) The Nexus is better only because of the Super AMOLED and Ice Cream Sandwich. I personally can live without the AMOLED and I know for a fact if LG doesn't update to Ice Cream Sandwich that the Awesome Devs here will. 1280x720 4.6" SAMOLED....uhhhh....no phone will even compare after seeing that screen. I bought a GS2 for pretty much the screen alone, and this is even better. 480x800 is annoying after using qHD, after using GN it will be going from a CinemaDisplay to a netbook. ICS looks amazing
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Gotta say, i dont agree. GN is a worthy upgrade based on the 4.6" 1280x720 curved screen alone. But besides that...lack of physical buttons will rock, NFC will be cool in the future, it's thin and big at the same time...honestly, what more could you want? This pretty much epitomizes the current generation of phones. I can't wait to get mine.

jetbruceli said:
Don't u all think the nexus should have beafier hardware? To me, I think the prime isn't any better than the sg2!
I was hoping for something strong enough to really slap apples iPhone 4s out but we will see.
As far as this g2x versus a prime?
Prime I would love to have cuz its faster and more than likely gonna get all the updates in the word
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The galaxy nexus is gonna **** on everything, specs don't really mean alot to me real world testing does. Everyone said the same thing about the Nexus S when it came out because it wasn't dual core but it can hold its own against almost any phone out. The specs on the galaxy Nexus are good they go together like the Omap processor is mainly because of the HD screen since omap has IV3. watch how many ppl get the Nexus when it drops, most ppl are getting iPhones so they can resell them cuz ppl will pay so much not cuz its a great phone IMO
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JaiaV said:
IMO, the Nexus S and the Galaxy Nexus were intentionally gimped by Samsung in order to sell their own, Touchwiz based handsets instead.
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Absolutley they did, why wouldn't they use their in house superior Exynos and Mali GPU? They want to push their own brand and Google accepted it. Google is to blame for that not Samsung.

It's cool that you're content with the G2x as I am. But in no way is this better than the GN. The 1280x720 is now native on Android on ICS. So no matter what devs can do, ICS will never be native on this phone. Plus it's super amoled HD... G2x can't touch that. And the camera ain't even close, the GN takes amazing pictures and video, plus that instant zero shutter lag is pretty awesome.
I love the G2x as much as you do. But it's not even in the same league as the GN.
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mackster248 said:
It's cool that you're content with the G2x as I am. But in no way is this better than the GN. The 1280x720 is now native on Android on ICS. So no matter what devs can do, ICS will never be native on this phone. Plus it's super amoled HD... G2x can't touch that. And the camera ain't even close, the GN takes amazing pictures and video, plus that instant zero shutter lag is pretty awesome.
I love the G2x as much as you do. But it's not even in the same league as the GN.
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agreed. the g2x is solid, even performs better than other dual-core 1.0ghz+ phones (benchmark 200+ higher than my brothers rooted sensation at 1.2). i think people are just displeased with the announcement. some serious upgrades, yes (ICS, ridiculous screen, etc) but some features are just lacking. it was the same with the nexus s (single core, no notification light, etc). if you're paying for a GN, i'm sure you understand the piece of technology you're getting your hands on; you're willing to pay for every feature that they're willing to put into the device. if google and samsung are concerned about overpricing the handset, they should be aware that their demographic for this device is specific and that demographic is willing to pay.
i'm selling my g2x and buying a GSII or GN. it's still an amazing device, just less of a powerhouse than some people thought.

Wow you all are aware that after the release of this phone, there is gonna be a butt load of better phones to follow really soon. I mean nvidia had to wait for this phone to be released so they can start pushing tegra 3 devices.
I am sure by Christmas we will have quad core phones available and all who ran out and bought this GN or GS2 will be upset.
I got this g2x for like 200 on Amazon no contract.
I have had the option for a new phone for awhile but why would I when this phone rocks?
Besides my next device is the Vita!
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True, but those better devices won't be Nexus devices. That is the big difference. After using multiple dual core processors including Tegra 2, I don't think I want any part of Tegra 3.
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AdamHart612 said:
True, but those better devices won't be Nexus devices. That is the big difference. After using multiple dual core processors including Tegra 2, I don't think I want any part of Tegra 3.
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what do you dislike about the tegra 2? i've never used any other dual cores.

jetbruceli said:
Wow you all are aware that after the release of this phone, there is gonna be a butt load of better phones to follow really soon. I mean nvidia had to wait for this phone to be released so they can start pushing tegra 3 devices.
I am sure by Christmas we will have quad core phones available and all who ran out and bought this GN or GS2 will be upset.
I got this g2x for like 200 on Amazon no contract.
I have had the option for a new phone for awhile but why would I when this phone rocks?
Besides my next device is the Vita!
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Yeah but it's a Nexus man. Same thing with the Nexus S, its hardware got eclipsed in a couple of months when the Atrix came out and the Nexus S was still smoother. In real world applications the Nexus S has been the smoothest phone up until probably the Bionic came out, everything else was either bogged down by Sense 3.0 or just plain out laggy like the Atrix. If we're talking out of the box, and with no custom ROM's, the Nexus line is always the smoothest and fastest, and the direct support from Google is what you're paying for.

Honestly I'm disappointed in the new hardware specs too. I wanted it to blow the iPhone 4S out of the water so I could show everyone that Android is truly superior. Now I have to rely on showing them pictures of ICS. And unfortunately most of them are too stupid to understand camera app settings, so that'll be of little help!
Should've gotten like a quad-core, 16mp camera, 2gb ram, hdmi port, 1080p screen, 320gb internal memory, and much more.
*If you don't sense the sarcasm, i'll put this as a disclaimer so I don't get trolled*

Galaxy S3 launched

Now that another piece of plastic made by Samsung has been launched, you can all relax and carry on......
Looks to me as a mutation between Galaxy Nexus and S2....no worries, it's "mimicking warmth & beauty of nature" though
let the games begin.

You sound jealous.

zerozoneice said:
Now that another piece of plastic made by Samsung has been launched, you can all relax and carry on......
Looks to me as a mutation between Galaxy Nexus and S2....no worries, it's "mimicking warmth & beauty of nature" though
let the games begin.
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yeah looks like a piece of crap, no really i mean it, but do you really need to make yourself better about your purchase based on the fact that the GS3 is a piece of crap?

nobnut said:
You sound jealous.
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i need an extra box of tissues...

Honestly,not blown away by it ..it looks nice though but the specs are ..mehh
It reminds me of my Nexus

damn, I should have gotten the gsiii
/sarcasm

Exynos CPU is waaaaay better than tegra. And it supports sd card.
So specs wise, samsung wins

fallenwout said:
Exynos CPU is waaaaay better than tegra. And it supports sd card.
So specs wise, samsung wins
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They win in specs...but design is ruined. I was going get till I saw the photo..
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LOL funny how HOX screen was too big for the past month when the sgs3 was rumoured to be 4.6inch - but SGS3 is 4.8inch confirmed.
& still just 8mp camera, so much for expecting 12mp.
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Exynos CPU is waaaaay better than tegra. And it supports sd card.
So specs wise, samsung wins
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Just like the RISC architecture was better than x86
And seriously now i personally don't get this SD Card hype...we have already 32GB on the devices, what's the point in stuffing more when the battery of any smartphone today can't keep up more than a day or so of normal usage, let alone HD video playback or gaming.

zerozoneice said:
Just like the RISC architecture was better than x86
And seriously now i personally don't get this SD Card hype...we have already 32GB on the devices, what's the point in stuffing more when the battery of any smartphone today can't keep up more than a day or so of normal usage, let alone HD video playback or gaming.
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And don't forget 23 gb free storage on dropbox, I would rather have all that back up space for all my photos then a removable SD card.
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SD Card slots slow the phone down - period!
Is 32gb storage plus 25gb (50gb really as 25 can be received via skydive too) cloud storage not enough? LOL
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/samsung/9243530/Samsung-Galaxy-S3-review.html
50g dropbox apparently with S3
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AndyG1985 said:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/samsung/9243530/Samsung-Galaxy-S3-review.html
50g dropbox apparently with S3
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crap, matter of time before the whole "mine is larger than yours" saga began
granted though, they owned us battery wise although it'll be interesting to see usage vs. capacity numbers....

I hear pebble look all the time...
Looks like an old clamshell phone without the flip..... Aghhhhhh!, & blue... Blue.... Sooo weird to not see a black Galaxy.
The specs don't worry the HOX customers though.
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And don't forget 23 gb free storage on dropbox, I would rather have all that back up space for all my photos then a removable SD card.
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GS3 is an Awful looking phone, the mockups looked sexy, ah well. dont care about SD Card, unless you get a class 10 you will knacker you performance. Sammy are offering 50gb dropbox, but do you needthat much for your phone.. Really.
TouchWiz has a few new bits but still looks like a bear's arse. Also why just 1gb ram,where is the rumoured 2gb?
They had a chance to make it stand out from all the other Galaxys, they failed. HTC One X may have a few software bugs atm but i am well and truly sticking with HTC. I have had a Galaxy S2 and Nexus and actually missed HTC

although s3 seems better but it cant match htc one x build quality. did u guys see loudspeaker. its looks crap ewwwwww. Nice that i didnt wait and bought one x otherwise today i would have bought one x really one x is overall consumer device. s3 is a geeks dream who care about specs and rooting custom roms till core. as i can see both devices are top notch with each having pro and cons but afterall htc build quality can hardly be questioned. i would go for one x on one x vs s3. sgs3 better lhck next tym
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check out some high-res images of the thing....
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...l-packs-a-4-8-inch-720p-super-amoled-display/

I am glad I didn't wait. Not being a fan boy or anything, but the phone looks ugly compared to the OneX, even the back of he S3 looks ugly. Touchwiz is also ugly compared to Sense.
There will be the people that will go with it because they "need" the extra battery, or SD Card. Neither bothered me as I have a portable battery anyway.
I dont doubt that it will be quicker than the OneX on benchmark tests, the camera might even be better (although it only does 25 snaps compared to our 99 ) but it has Touchwiz and it looks fugly!

SGS3 in a word : Ugly

How much more can mobile hardware advance?

Ok guys,
I'm due an upgrade in August, but I don't know whether to pass out on it.
I currently have a Desire S. It's got quite old hardware, a single core chip. I'm a heavy user of my phone, so it has to do many things for me - web browsing, email, etc.
I can't afford a quad core highend phone. So I'm thinking of getting a One S. It's only dual core... But if I get it, it will have to last me at least 2 years. That's a big decision to make. I've only had my Desire S 11 months, and I already stayed feeling the need to upgrade.
I need a faster CPU to keep up with android demands, and a larger screen.
The thing is, if I get the One S, how outdated will it be?
From what I see, dual core has a huge advantage over single core.
But quad core not so much over dual core... (Or maybe android isn't making good use of it)
What's next for the move in smartphones? 8 cores seems unlikely... So what will be next? If nothing big comes along, will the One S and its dual core chip still be good enough to last me 2 years?
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I'd wait until HTC announces a new, better phone than the One series. Bit the Ones are great phones, you can't go wrong with them.
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I'd wait until HTC announces a new, better phone than the One series. Bit the Ones are great phones, you can't go wrong with them.
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Thanks, but what significant hardware improvements will HTC bring?
How will it differ greatly from the current range?
That leaves my other concern, is 10GB in the One S enough to last me 2 years? I've gotten by on a 8GB SD card on my Desire S...
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I would probably wait for a phone with 2GB or RAM such as the US version of the S3. Dual or quad core with 2gb or RAM should be good for at least 2 years.

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I would probably wait for a phone with 2GB or RAM such as the US version of the S3. Dual or quad core with 2gb or RAM should be good for at least 2 years.
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olyloh6696 said:
It's got quite old hardware, a single core chip. I'm a heavy user of my phone, so it has to do many things for me - web browsing, email, etc.
I can't afford a quad core highend phone. So I'm thinking of getting a One S. It's only dual core...
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I use Windows Phone 7.5 so I don't have to OBSESS about cores. I don't need 4 cores to check email whether I check email once a day or once a minute. Sorry I can't help.

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I use Windows Phone 7.5 so I don't have to OBSESS about cores. I don't need 4 cores to check email whether I check email once a day or once a minute. Sorry I can't help.
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Yeah, I see where u are coming from, but this isn't the case with android... It NEEDs the cores to have a smooth experience...
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So you are saying RAM is gonna make a huge difference?
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I think it will eventually. We are becoming more and more dependent on our phones. We want them to sync facebook, use GPS, listen to music and text at the same time. Once the software catches up to the hardware, there will only be more things to add to our multi tasking...more RAM is definitely the way to go.

Honestly, I'd say pick the one that has the best battery life, useability and moddability. Most of these smartphones nowadays are neck and neck imo. So you may as well get the one that you can customize the hell out of and will net you what you consider acceptable battery life.
If you want two cores you can probably score a deal on a Galaxy S II I saw "Fire-Sales" in London where they were going for £180 - £220. I recently picked up my Galaxy S I for £100 new in box. Also don't forget devices like the Optimus 2x or the Atrix 4G.

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Yeah, I see where u are coming from, but this isn't the case with android... It NEEDs the cores to have a smooth experience...
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I would very strongly disagree with that. I'm using my HD2 which has hardware about a year and a half older than the Desire S (basically an older generation CPU and GPU, approximately 200Mb less RAM, Windows Mobile as stock) and it runs ICS (CM9) very smoothly. It's been three years since it's release and it's still going strong. There is a potential One V Alpha build and I think Jelly Bean (or whatever the next iteration of Android will be called) is quite possible for the HD2. I think that the One S is a poor choice, because you might as well just get a Sensation which has essentially the same hardware as the One S and has the added benefits of being cheaper, having a bigger developer base (I think) and having a menu button (which is a lot more useful than you'd think, the onscreen one is very ugly ). Whether or not this will last you 2 years on official software I don't know, but I reckon it'll last a good couple of years. The only problem is if the devs move off of the Sensation and on to a new phone.

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I think it will eventually. We are becoming more and more dependent on our phones. We want them to sync facebook, use GPS, listen to music and text at the same time. Once the software catches up to the hardware, there will only be more things to add to our multi tasking...more RAM is definitely the way to go.
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Thanks mate. I read that the SGS3 struggles with RAM (1GB version) as the new skin is so heavy, that the launcher constantly withdraws etc.
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Honestly, I'd say pick the one that has the best battery life, useability and moddability. Most of these smartphones nowadays are neck and neck imo. So you may as well get the one that you can customize the hell out of and will net you what you consider acceptable battery life.
If you want two cores you can probably score a deal on a Galaxy S II I saw "Fire-Sales" in London where they were going for £180 - £220. I recently picked up my Galaxy S I for £100 new in box. Also don't forget devices like the Optimus 2x or the Atrix 4G.
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Thanks man! Fire-sales - can you be more direct please? Are these brand new from retail shops? I had my eye on the SGS2 aswell...
Where can I look around?
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Thanks mate. I read that the SGS3 struggles with RAM (1GB version) as the new skin is so heavy, that the launcher constantly withdraws etc.
Thanks man! Fire-sales - can you be more direct please? Are these brand new from retail shops? I had my eye on the SGS2 aswell...
Where can I look around?
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Oh when I wrote my post (you probably missed it on the previous page) I was making the assume that you wanted to go HTC only. If you are willing to go for an SGS2, that would definitely beat a Sensation IMO.

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I would very strongly disagree with that. I'm using my HD2 which has hardware about a year and a half older than the Desire S (basically an older generation CPU and GPU, approximately 200Mb less RAM, Windows Mobile as stock) and it runs ICS (CM9) very smoothly. It's been three years since it's release and it's still going strong. There is a potential One V Alpha build and I think Jelly Bean (or whatever the next iteration of Android will be called) is quite possible for the HD2. I think that the One S is a poor choice, because you might as well just get a Sensation which has essentially the same hardware as the One S and has the added benefits of being cheaper, having a bigger developer base (I think) and having a menu button (which is a lot more useful than you'd think, the onscreen one is very ugly ). Whether or not this will last you 2 years on official software I don't know, but I reckon it'll last a good couple of years. The only problem is if the devs move off of the Sensation and on to a new phone.
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Well, I don't use AOSP ROMs. I use full Sense ROMs, so the phone is slower, I use it heavily for web browsing, and gaming etc. I've noticed the browser is never as smooth as a dual core phone. I use my phone extensively, therefore, I like fluid performance, and for me android on a single core doesn't satisfy MY needs.
Also you are slightly off... The One S is far ahead of the Sensation. It uses a S4 chip compared to the S3 in the Sensation with a much newer CPU and GPU, it's much much more efficient, and currently the best dual core chip... That's why I wanted to choose that...
Dev support Is decent for the One S.
I'm open to all android manufacturers. (Actually. Only Samsung or HTC)
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The specs for all flagship phones are all very good now, maybe a little saturated. The important thing is the advancement in software. There is still no LibreOffice or full Adobe Photoshop or AutoCAD for Android. Fanboys will get mad reading this, but Android needs vast improvement in interface speed, look at Windows Phone running on single core devices and their boot time.
Phones will keep getting better because it will be the main 'PC' for everyone in the future (if not already now). People will carry it with them then dock it to do more productive tasks. Which is what Ubuntu is trying to do with Android.
For me personally, the Nexus still gives me the most freedom and most up to date Android version, so no reason to buy anything else yet.
The best example of hardware ahead of software is the next iPhone, no matter how high res or fast it is, its still an iPhone running on closed source iOS, so I won't buy it.

Is cutting edge hardware really that necessary? If you noticed, Google is the responsible for pushing the envelope and forcing more powerful hardware with less battery life and so. Remeber what happened to Honeycomb? Running slow and sluggish even on the platform it was specifically made for. Or wondering why the old Tegra cpu has some lag on ICS when the most recent S4 and Exynos quad core doesn't? Is there a reason for a dual core smartphone (HTC One S) to score higher than a quad core(HTC One X)? Our modern cutting edge phones are bigger, with objectionable battery life and can barely fit in our pockets.
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Well, I don't use AOSP ROMs. I use full Sense ROMs, so the phone is slower, I use it heavily for web browsing, and gaming etc. I've noticed the browser is never as smooth as a dual core phone. I use my phone extensively, therefore, I like fluid performance, and for me android on a single core doesn't satisfy MY needs.
Also you are slightly off... The One S is far ahead of the Sensation. It uses a S4 chip compared to the S3 in the Sensation with a much newer CPU and GPU, it's much much more efficient, and currently the best dual core chip... That's why I wanted to choose that...
Dev support Is decent for the One S.
I'm open to all android manufacturers. (Actually. Only Samsung or HTC)
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Yeah, I don't use Sense for the reason that I find it sluggish. I've used my Mum's desire S now and again purely to see how good Sense is and whether or not to flash it, and it's always just seemed too slow for me, and since your hardware is of a newer generation I doubt my phone would cope well. However, with CM9 it genuinely is fast and smooth. The best performance improvement I've noticed over CM7/GB is in the browser, where I find the smoothness and the zooming comparable with an SGS3.
The One S is far ahead of the Sensation, you're right (actually it scores higher quadrant scores than a Sensation as well I think) but the only problem I'd have with a One S is simply that I don't know whether or not it's necessary to pay extra when you can pick up a Sensation relatively cheaply. In day-to-day performance I don't know whether or not you'll notice it tbh.
Perhaps an SGS2 would be better then, or maybe as suggested above a GNex.

eksasol said:
The specs for all flagship phones are all very good now, maybe a little saturated. The important thing is the advancement in software. There is still no LibreOffice or full Adobe Photoshop or AutoCAD for Android. Fanboys will get mad reading this, but Android needs vast improvement in interface speed, look at Windows Phone running on single core devices and their boot time.
Phones will keep getting better because it will be the main 'PC' for everyone in the future (if not already now). People will carry it with them then dock it to do more productive tasks. Which is what Ubuntu is trying to do with Android.
For me personally, the Nexus still gives me the most freedom and most up to date Android version, so no reason to buy anything else yet.
The best example of hardware ahead of software is the next iPhone, no matter how high res or fast it is, its still an iPhone running on closed source iOS, so I won't buy it.
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Yeah I agree with you. It's a shame OEMs don't provide software updates to the phones though, even though they are far capable. The One S is likely to receive Jellybean... But what about Key Lime Pie in the future?
That's where my problem lies. In 2 years, support will be dead. Also, I know you can use custom ROMs etc, but they are never perfect, as you need the official kernel source from HTC so the ROM cam be stable.
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Is cutting edge hardware really that necessary? If you noticed, Google is the responsible for pushing the envelope and forcing more powerful hardware with less battery life and so. Remeber what happened to Honeycomb? Running slow and sluggish even on the platform it was specifically made for. Or wondering why the old Tegra cpu has some lag on ICS when the most recent S4 and Exynos quad core doesn't? Is there a reason for a dual core smartphone (HTC One S) to score higher than a quad core(HTC One X)? Our modern cutting edge phones are bigger, with objectionable battery life and can barely fit in our pockets.
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Well, I don't like to be behind in technology. When I compare my Desire S to say, a SGS2, it makes me weep seeing how much faster the SGS is. That's why my question, will hardware improve much from quad core? For me, dual core to quad core is a much smaller jump, than single to dual.
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Yeah, I don't use Sense for the reason that I find it sluggish. I've used my Mum's desire S now and again purely to see how good Sense is and whether or not to flash it, and it's always just seemed too slow for me, and since your hardware is of a newer generation I doubt my phone would cope well. However, with CM9 it genuinely is fast and smooth. The best performance improvement I've noticed over CM7/GB is in the browser, where I find the smoothness and the zooming comparable with an SGS3.
The One S is far ahead of the Sensation, you're right (actually it scores higher quadrant scores than a Sensation as well I think) but the only problem I'd have with a One S is simply that I don't know whether or not it's necessary to pay extra when you can pick up a Sensation relatively cheaply. In day-to-day performance I don't know whether or not you'll notice it tbh.
Perhaps an SGS2 would be better then, or maybe as suggested above a GNex.
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Yeah, thanks for the suggestion, I was thinking of the SGS2, for me the browser is far from what the SGS2 offers. There's a good video on YouTube,
Desire S vs SGS2 web browsing... Just watch the difference and you will kno what I mean!
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I'm looking forward to see what Intel will do for mobile platforms now that they have joined in, they are new to mobile development but it seems like they are working on there hyper threading tech on there socs, sending 2 commands per core like there desktop PC chips (1 core processing the same amount of information that two cores would do). The next 24 months will be an exciting time for the mobile market!
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Just wanted to say....

Farewell to my Sky rocket community. Its has been fun I had this bad boy for 9 months the longest I ever hAD A PHONE..LOL. and the longest Ive been part of such a talented community i will miss reading those FLAMES and general rants and the occasional thefts... those who been around know..lol some of the sickest development I ever had the pleasure of tinkering with to make this phone a monster. hats off to the DEVS who are truly ANDROIDS!!
just sold this s o b for $250 and tomorrow its GS III time.. hope to see you guys over there... CHEERS!!

bori1030 said:
Farewell to my Sky rocket community. Its has been fun I had this bad boy for 9 months the longest I ever hAD A PHONE..LOL. and the longest Ive been part of such a talented community i will miss reading those FLAMES and general rants and the occasional thefts... those who been around know..lol some of the sickest development I ever had the pleasure of tinkering with to make this phone a monster. hats off to the DEVS who are truly ANDROIDS!!
just sold this s o b for $250 and tomorrow its GS III time.. hope to see you guys over there... CHEERS!!
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:'(..................................cya......................

M0D1441 said:
:'(..................................cya......................
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lol... hope to see you over there cooking one day

9 months >. > where do people go to piss money to buy new phones so often?
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9 months >. > where do people go to piss money to buy new phones so often?
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Buy/Sell, pay difference

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9 months >. > where do people go to piss money to buy new phones so often?
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craigslist bro just sold my skyrocket for $250 there and Ive had an upgrade Ive been saving on my line for a while so i get the gs 3 for 199.99 when i got my skyrocket i used another line's upgrade back in nov.
its called phone flipping get on board my man..

but we are getting so shafted on the dual core T999... why you no buy international

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but we are getting so shafted on the dual core T999... why you no buy international
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I wouldn't really say shafted, the dual core is faster and more power efficient than the previous S3 CPU and you get 2GB of ram rather than 1GB making multitasking much smoother. I've been hearing the Exynos quad to be a monster at eating battery if not tweaked (disable 2 cores etc...) and there are barely any apps/games that support more than 1 thread for phones aside from benchmarks. Thats pretty much like getting a 6 or 8 core CPU for PC yet the games/programs you use only use 2-4 cores and the only real benefit is if you use 3d programing/rendering/casting/encoding etc... but if you go to phone usage, doubt many utilize the full dual core.
So while the S4 only has 2 cores its still fast, if you have a quad core version of it you get this:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/24/qualcomm-snapdragon-s4-pro-apq8064-benchmark/
And we know getting that type of benchmark wont really be battery friendly will it?

later man. enjoy the gs3.

Bros before phones?
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Is the S3 really such a big step up from the SR?
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sly-tendencies said:
Is the S3 really such a big step up from the SR?
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Not really but it's still nice
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Not really but it's still nice
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I messed with one today, been trying to figure out where to get good $$$ for my skyrocket

sly-tendencies said:
Is the S3 really such a big step up from the SR?
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Two generations better CPU, a slightly better GPU, a higher resolution from 480x800 to 720x1280, longer battery life, more efficient LTE with better signal, better build, zero lag shutter camera...yes, its a big leap
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Two generations better CPU, a slightly better GPU, a higher resolution from 480x800 to 720x1280, longer battery life, more efficient LTE with better signal, better build, zero lag shutter camera...yes, its a big leap
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Not big enough for me to take
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What exactly will a better CPU offer, at this moment. I mean that in the sense that I don't see where my experience would improve in any way. Perhaps SwiftKey won't have an occasional hick up but even that's no guarantee. Besides that there's nothing I can do on an S3 that won't operate with the same usability as it would on my S2.
Still, to each his own, for me the only improvement would be resolution which I would unfortunately ruin with the nice feel of a matte anti glare cover. What I want is an S3 with guaranteed software updates going forward. Meaning ill be waiting until the next Nexus.
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Is the S3 really such a big step up from the SR?
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If we take from a hardware standpoint here are the key differences:
CPU:
Snapdragon S3 MSM8260 45nm 1.5GHz (Dual Core)-> Snapdragon S4 MSM8960 28nm 1.5GHz (Dual Core)
(Here we see the die shrink, with die shrinks on new architecture you can see battery improvements, temperature improvements and clock per clock speeds its faster)
GPU:
Adreno 220 -> Adreno 225
RAM:
1GB Single Channel -> 2GB Dual Channel
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480x800 -> 720x1280
Gorilla Glass 1 -> Gorilla Glass 2
Of course there is a lot of other features/hardware that are "better" such as camera and stock battery etc...
In terms of the phone itself, the SR is not lacking since its still a dual core phones while other phones are still single and working their way to dual core. Quad core are starting to arise but they wont be as efficient for a while since the games/apps we use will not take advantage of all the cores. That being said by the time we do utilize them most likely there will be a newer and better hardware. Also 720p may start becoming the next standard in display as "HD" is making its way onto phones. If you think about hardware difference, think of Samsung Galaxy S2 as 1, Skyrocket as 1.5 and Galaxy S3 as 2. S3 (North America) is still dual core but it is an efficient/fast CPU.
Good example of this is like PC specs:
Q6600 = Quad (65nm)
Q9550 = Quad (45nm)
i5 760 = Quad (45nm)
i5 2500K = Quad (32nm)
i5 3570K = Quad (28nm)
What I mean about that is the standard has started to become quad in the CPU/laptop world but the big difference is the efficiency(power consumption), speed (clock per clock) and maybe other supported hardware features.
So is it a big step up?.... Yes and no, yes because hardwarewise it is better but the SR isnt lacking to the point where ICS/JB lags on it or any other apps/games atm. Of course if you have insane graphical games maybe it will slug the SR in terms of performance but thats entirely on what you use it for. Ask the same question next year and you'll probably hear the same, the S3 is not lacking but xxx (S4 or whatever is "faster"). Technology will always get better its just whether you want to pay to get the latest and greatest or not.
I buy my gear based on my use. You wont see me buying computers that are 6-8 cores, Quad SLI/CFX video cards or whatever because I don't need them lol. My hardware is fully capable of playing the current games so thats what I usually upgrade for, my uses.
If you compare the SR to the S3 of course you will see a good difference but if you only use the phone for facebook, instagram, twitter, calling, texting, whatever, the SR can do those. Now if it can't do those and its slow and always dying on you and programs aren't working and super super sluggish then yeah those are the reasons for the upgrade.
Now if we go to the development side yes, phones like Galaxy Nexus, Galaxy S2 (original) and Galaxy S3 will have big support as most people get them when they first come out so if you want to look for it in that view they have more popularity. Some people want to get the phones that everyones getting while others don't want the "same exact" one but on a similar page.

Way to go and spoon feed insane amount of info lol... Good stuff
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but we are getting so shafted on the dual core T999... why you no buy international
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international does not support LTE and these two are faster plus 2gb of RAM

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Two generations better CPU, a slightly better GPU, a higher resolution from 480x800 to 720x1280, longer battery life, more efficient LTE with better signal, better build, zero lag shutter camera...yes, its a big leap
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couldnt have said it better ..