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dual core worth the wait?

My Nexus one just broke and I thought about just getting the Nexus S. However, I've been told to get a crappy phone and wait until the dual cores hit full swing. I was also told that once dual cores are the standard that Google and other manufacturers will make their OS predominately multi-threaded based.
I've been advised to get the LG Optimus now or getting something crappy like the Motorola spice and wait for the dual core.

better wait a little for better

Depends on what you need and want really.
If you like endless fun with rooting, etc. Nexus S for sure.
Otherwise, jump on the dual core train.

I rooted the N1 and had fun putting different ROMs. However, when things got busy I found it to be a low priority. I honestly want a stable smartphone. One that doens't require constant restarting, etc...

Dual-core is nice and zippy but I don't see a big difference between it and a premium 1Ghz single core phone. I am very happy with the MT4G at the moment and have had it since Day 1. I will be waiting for Kai-El, but the SGSII is tempting if it does indeed come to tmobile. I would suggest you to save money and find a good deal on the xda marketplace for a single core phone then upgrade to Kai-El when it comes out. Good luck! Hope I helped.

The way I see it, there's a couple options you can go with.
1) Wait and see. This option is the most boring, but possibly has the most potential. However, I wouldn't recommend it-- unless you're on a regional carrier or Sprint, there's going to be a dual-core option for you immediately (and even then, that's going to change in a matter of days for the latter).
2) Buy an older, cheaper, less capable smartphone off-contract to keep yourself amused, then sign up for a dual-core phone when one strikes your fancy. This isn't a bad idea-- get an old phone that developers have already cracked wide open, get your fill of mods and custom roms, then switch to the dual-core phone when you feel performance is no longer up to snuff. Right now, dual-core isn't imperative for a silky-smooth user experience, but you damn well know it will be going into the future. Don't sign a contract for a phone with one core if you feel like you need to get the most out of the UI for the majority of that two-year period.
3) Take the plunge right away. Unless you're on Verizon like me, there shouldn't be much of a dilemma with dual-core phones. The Sensation 4G is nothing short of a triumph, the Evo 3D is both novel and amusing, and the Atrix 4G is gonna be even better than it already is once it gets Gingerbread and dumps the old MotoBlur. The trick with Verizon is that its only dual-core phone right now is the Droid X2, which lacks LTE. Still, that's what I bought, and I feel confident with the purchase. It's gonna be ready for whatever software's thrown at it over the next year or two.

imho, since you're interested in dual core, better wait a bit. See what will be announced till the end of year or begining 2012.
In the meantime, could grab a cheap lg optimus one which still has plenty juice left in it for many months to come and customize the sh1t out of it with plenty roms and kernels and the upcoming update to gb.
This way you'll have something to tincker with while standing by on the safe side to see what plans the companies have on dual core

Yes
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You are not going to see difference between single and dual core.
All the games I play run max fps even in single core.
Also you dont need dual core to browse website.
Really depends on what you want(battery life, ram, screen size, screen type).
I own desire hd and galaxy s II now.
Played with galaxy S, atrix, g2x.
I prefer desire hd over all because of screen size and mod.

Do you love your phone?

Hey guys just trying to decide on a phone I was wondering if the infuse is the phone for me any advice? Do you guys like it? If you could get a different one what would you get? Thanks
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Honestly, at this point wait for the SGSII. The phone come out at the end of the month.

I couldn't be much happier with my Infuse. It's a great phone. However, the SGSII will be coming out soon, so you have a tricky decision to make.
The advantages the Infuse has are a 4.5" screen as opposed to the 4.3" screen on the SGSII. Also, you can walk into a store tomorrow and get it.
The advantages of the SGSII are it's dual core processor, and the fact that it will likely have an insanely huge development community.
Both phones have a 1.2 GHz processor, but the dual core in the SGSII will definitely give it an edge. However, I don't have any lag on my infuse whatsoever, so that is kind of negligible to me.
Also, even though the development community for the Infuse will be smaller in the long run, it isn't bad by any means.
It's really a win-win with either choice in my eyes, as right now I would choose my Infuse over anything on the market right now.
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welchertc said:
I couldn't be much happier with my Infuse. It's a great phone. However, the SGSII will be coming out soon, so you have a tricky decision to make.
The advantages the Infuse has are a 4.5" screen as opposed to the 4.3" screen on the SGSII. Also, you can walk into a store tomorrow and get it.
The advantages of the SGSII are it's dual core processor, and the fact that it will likely have an insanely huge development community.
Both phones have a 1.2 GHz processor, but the dual core in the SGSII will definitely give it an edge. However, I don't have any lag on my infuse whatsoever, so that is kind of negligible to me.
Also, even though the development community for the Infuse will be smaller in the long run, it isn't bad by any means.
It's really a win-win with either choice in my eyes, as right now I would choose my Infuse over anything on the market right now.
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I wonder if dual core will make a "real world" difference? When multi-core CPU's for Desktop and Laptop PC's came out they made little difference until there were applications that supported them. It took a number of years for that to happen for other than high end business products.
Is more hype then fact?

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I wonder if dual core will make a "real world" difference? When multi-core CPU's for Desktop and Laptop PC's came out they made little difference until there were applications that supported them. It took a number of years for that to happen for other than high end business products.
Is more hype then fact?
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A easier way to make money with a wow factor.
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Best phone I have ever owned. I love it. Fast, great battery life, and the screen is just simply amazing.
The dev section here sucks, g2g and the rest of the dev's for this phone work hard and create some great stuff but there are far too many arrogant and whiney users constantly putting down their work and crying like little girls because they don't understand how to follow directions or realize that roms are a work in progress. Soon the SII will come out and most of them will leave and this section will get a lot more sane and the SII section is going to go to hell.

MisterEdF said:
I wonder if dual core will make a "real world" difference? When multi-core CPU's for Desktop and Laptop PC's came out they made little difference until there were applications that supported them. It took a number of years for that to happen for other than high end business products.
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dual core always makes a difference, it just doesnt make a 100% difference. there are times it might eliminate all lag making it seem like a world of difference, other times it can make zero difference. the big advantage is when background services are running or on a pc when you have multiple windows open and running different applications. but now pc applications are multi-threaded taking more advantage even when multi tasking is at a minimum.
also remember the dual core phones have faster ram and are arm cortex a9 processors not a8. there may be some new hardware level advancements that can be taken advantage of in the next android releases.
as far as graphics processing goes we have a good gpu and are comparable to a tegra in raw capabilities. though the benchmarks often give the tegra an advantage in speed i find the renderings to look better on the samsung. im not saying anything one way or another. the infuse can accomplish anything a dual core can as far as far as video playback and graphics but the dual core phones have there merit. look at youtube vids side by side of a sgs2 web browsing against other devices. it powers through flash a lot faster than anything else i have seen.

Dani897 said:
dual core always makes a difference, it just doesnt make a 100% difference. there are times it might eliminate all lag making it seem like a world of difference, other times it can make zero difference. the big advantage is when background services are running or on a pc when you have multiple windows open and running different applications. but now pc applications are multi-threaded taking more advantage even when multi tasking is at a minimum.
also remember the dual core phones have faster ram and are arm cortex a9 processors not a8. there may be some new hardware level advancements that can be taken advantage of in the next android releases.
as far as graphics processing goes we have a good gpu and are comparable to a tegra in raw capabilities. though the benchmarks often give the tegra an advantage in speed i find the renderings to look better on the samsung. im not saying anything one way or another. the infuse can accomplish anything a dual core can as far as far as video playback and graphics but the dual core phones have there merit. look at youtube vids side by side of a sgs2 web browsing against other devices. it powers through flash a lot faster than anything else i have seen.
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I, like MrEdf (I'm Mr. Ed 2 lol) don't see much of a difference when using todays line up of applications when it comes to single vs dual...
the ram is supposed to be better but we have no devices utilizing that to test with right now...so it is just speculation.
take the dual core phones out now and run them through real world scenarios side by side with an overclocked android device be it hummingbird or snapdragon and look for a difference....granted the benchmark will be better on the dual core and it truly is more powerful, there isn't much developed to at this point that will utilize it.
what I hope to see is better multitasking. i get completely scattered going back and forth between apps and my phone gets all pissed off about it.
I've mentioned in a few other threads my plans...I'll test several devices (atrix is already out of the picture) like the lg thrill, the gs2 and my infuse, prolly throw our inspire into the tests just for fun... in the end I will use the one I like the most
I love this phone....right now. ask me again in a month lol

you tube
here we go.
(video not uploaded by me)
assuming infuse on froyo whereas s2 on gingerbread.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hqo5Rmx3WtA
if difference is fraction of a second then i think one can live with it.
at the end of the day both are just phones and for more complicated work we have laptops and netbooks or tablets.

rohit3192 said:
here we go.
(video not uploaded by me)
assuming infuse on froyo whereas s2 on gingerbread.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hqo5Rmx3WtA
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He has some excellent comparison videos...
keep in mind that is the euro s2 as well..who knows what variation we end up with in the US

I love this phone, the devs are awesome and their product is top notch. I have yet to find a rom our kernel that I wouldn't run. Everything is good and its just a matter of preference and a few specific features. The community its great, aside from a few bad apples, but generally they are very helpful and informative.
I too was looking at the sgII but needed a new phone and picked up the infuse, I have no regrets, plus the scuttlebutt if that the attain (att version of sgII) will have a physical keyboard.
All in all, infuse is they best phone I've ever owned and can easily see it keeping me happy for a long time.
Infused with gingerbread **** thanks GTG465X

Agree with many people here. Wait for the SGSII. Don't get me wrong, the Infuse is a great phone, but unless the SGSII is over $200 on contract, I would just wait for it
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The SGSII is certainly the phone to beat, however be aware that it has a smaller battery than the Infuse and with the dual core processor it's battery life is not great. Also rumor has it that AT&T's version will have a slide-out keyboard (confirmed by a friend of mine who works at an AT&T store). If that's the case I would have no interest in the phone because the keyboard will make it thicker. In any case you can get an Infuse and have 30 days to try it out before needing to return it. Samsung is having their release event later this month so you'd still be inside the return window if they announce something your interested in. I find the 1.2Ghz processor in the Infuse to be outstanding and don't find any speed complaints, in fact I'd trade better battery life for single core versus dual core. And our Infuse has the largest Super AMOLED Plus screen.

Newbie, Thinking of buying a Desire S

Hi, Im thinking of getting a Desire S as my next phone. Im not exactly new to this as i had a regular Desire for about 18 months which i rooted, s-off and installed many customs roms.
I was looking for a upgrade and bought a Sensation a few weeks ago but its not for me as i find the phone abit too big. Even though its really fast, I dont find it comfortable to use.
The only phones that i can see that are similar size to the original desire is LG Optimus 2X, Motorola Atrix or Desire S. But as I want Sense, the Desire S is only the option. Even though it is not dual core, it should be much quicker than a Desire as;
- Has 50% more RAM. 768MB compared to 512​- 1GB internal memory so no need for A2SD which should make things faster​- Processor, even though its a 1GHZ i believe it can be overclocked to over 1.8GHZ and at a safe 1.4GHZ. Is this correct?​
In terms of ROMS, the Desire S has got a large collection.
Anything else that i have missed out or need to know?
Thanks

Hi, please tell me where did you find it ?
This configuration is awesome.

From what you've written there, you already know the answer as to which phone you should be getting. If you are lookin for something th same size as the Desire S then there is no real competition as faras I'm concerned - not just for design and specifications, but also for ROMs, development and user forum support on XDA
As the Nike adverts say "Just Do It!!"

Thanks guys, am I correct regarding the overclock statement I've made?

Hi.
If You are not bothered with not having the latest tech, then I would say Desire S is a good choice.
So far android experience is great on it, haven't found any real reason to go with multi core just yet.
Things You'll like - alloy unibody, size, battery life (depending on rom and useage), overall speed, quite decent main camera + front cam (skype works very well), price (I wouldn't sign for a long contract on it though).
Cons - well... battery life (still, ain't bad but more energy efficient devices are going to be in sale soon)
Good luck.

You are correct with all statements
The Desire S also has better battery life than the original, thanks to its larger capacity, and the more optimized 2nd gen CPU (which is very good for OC'ing)

I have my ds for 6 months now, and im very happy with iti had the same problem like you (the sensation was to big)
I had the choice between samsung galaxy s and desire s, and i have choosen the ds because of sense too
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Decision made, desire s it is. Just need to put my sensation on eBay now.
Also noticed that sensation xl has the same CPU as the desire s which is clocked to 1.5ghz.

I think there is a thread on here somewhere about the CPU being the same as the one in the Sensation, and i think that though it is the same model number the one in the Sensation it is a later generation model so it is designed differantly and runs at a higher speed.
The only other thing i would say is perhaps wait a month or so and see what new models HTC announce. it could be that the Desire S gets upgraded similar to the move from Desire to Desire S.
Edit heres link to the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459911

There is a HTC primo coming out in a few months but that only has 512mb RAM.

325i. said:
Anything else that i have missed out or need to know?
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Yup, you missed something huge. THE MWC IS COMING IN LESS THAN A MONTH !!!!!! The Desire S was revealed at MWC last year. Surely, something waaaaaay better will show up this year. I LOVE my desire s, but i won't reccomend you to buy it at this time.
The Galaxy S Advance has been announced, it's roughly the same size as the Desire S (4.0 inch screen), similar price but has much better hardware (Dual core 1 Ghz CPU, Super Amoled Screen). HTC must compete with this, so somthing big (with sense ) will come at MWC. TRUST ME. Even if you don't like what comes, you can buy the Desire S later, it's not like HTC is gonna stop supplies

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Sadly, as much as I love my Desire S too, I can only agree with Shrome.
Unless you aren't too bothered about having the latest and greatest, and aren't a tech-head, this phone is recommended and will serve you well for basic smartphone tasks.
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olyloh6696 said:
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Sadly, as much as I love my Desire S too, I can only agree with Shrome.
Unless you aren't too bothered about having the latest and greatest, and aren't a tech-head, this phone is recommended and will serve you well for basic smartphone tasks.
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I'm sure the Desire S will serve for a lot more than just basic tasks. I know synthetic benchmarks are not a lot to go by, but considering the stock Galaxy Nexus gets 32 fps in Nenamark 2 and my Desire S gets 27 fps (without any overclock), it's somewhat reassuring and makes me believe the Desire S still has a bit of kick remaining.

shrome99 said:
Yup, you missed something huge. THE MWC IS COMING IN LESS THAN A MONTH !!!!!! The Desire S was revealed at MWC last year. Surely, something waaaaaay better will show up this year. I LOVE my desire s, but i won't reccomend you to buy it at this time.
The Galaxy S Advance has been announced, it's roughly the same size as the Desire S (4.0 inch screen), similar price but has much better hardware (Dual core 1 Ghz CPU, Super Amoled Screen). HTC must compete with this, so somthing big (with sense ) will come at MWC. TRUST ME. Even if you don't like what comes, you can buy the Desire S later, it's not like HTC is gonna stop supplies
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I believe the HTC Primo will be the replacement for the Desire S but it only has 512MB RAM.
Also, i presume the phone will be launched towards summer time and have a price of £300? Whereas the Desire S is available on ebay now for roughly half that price.

325i. said:
I believe the HTC Primo will be the replacement for the Desire S but it only has 512MB RAM.
Also, i presume the phone will be launched towards summer time and have a price of £300? Whereas the Desire S is available on ebay now for roughly half that price.
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Although the leaked specs say 512mb, I highly doubt the device would come like that.
HTC wouldn't downgrade the succesor.
Leaked specs aren't always true you know
The HD2 original leak said it has 384mb RAM. But it ended up having 448mb (576mb actually, if you unlock the hidden RAM)
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You can't be sure of any of those things( except the price, maybe). The leaks are HIGHLY unreliable. I'm 99% sure it won't have lower RAM than the Desire S if it's a successor. For all you know, it may be a succesor to Wildfire S, cost waaaay less, and the Desire S may have a different succesor entirely

Hmmm, not sure now.
When will the official release be of these phones? And when they become available, are we talking weeks/months?

325i. said:
Hmmm, not sure now.
When will the official release be of these phones? And when they become available, are we talking weeks/months?
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325i Please see my response to your other thread about coming from the old Desire. I just edited it. Noticed a worrying trend on the recent Amazon reviews.
Regarding new phones releases, it depends. If the manufacturers have any sense, they'll have the product ready to swing into the shops riding on the hype-wave from MWC. Others may want to hang back and see how their product is received before committing to getting x amount of them made.
For the first time I'm not 100% about sticking with HTC for my next phone. I just don't trust their reliability and after sales support so much any more. I buy my phones outright SIM-free and unlocked so I can't really afford to make a bad decision.
Problem is looking around at alternatives I don't yet see anything tempting, baring in mind I don't like whopping screens and not too fussed about multi-core devices. I mean if the Xperia Arc S was slightly smaller and had a front-facing camera I'd probably already be saving up for it.
The Sony (minus the Ericsson) Xperia S is just far far far too big. OK 12MP camera but I bet it still blurs if taking a moving shot. Plus is it me, or have the designers copped out? A formless, plain rectangle of a phone like SGS2. Doesn't look comfortable at all to hold, and doesn't hold a candle to the Desire S in terms of looks.
Only thing I'm certain of is I wont be selling my DS. I'll keep it around so I can stay in this section of XDA and carry on with testing and support.

yeah the desire s overclocks very well indeed.mine will run at 1.5ghz stable. its definatly a much more capable phone than the original desire and as you say there arnt many other phones that match the form you are looking for.
we also have the best section on xda with a huge selection of roms.cant go wrong really.BUY ONE!

Think ill go for the Desire S.
I also buy my phones sim free, usually slightly used ones off ebay. Ive decided to get a Desire S, if i newer/better HTC comes out, i can always put the Desire S back on ebay.

[Q] O.C.

Hi,
I'm sorry if I'm posting it on the wrong part of the forum, not sure if it's a General question or a Develop one.
I am still thinking if I want to buy the HTC One X or wait for the SGS3...all bring me wish the One X but the cpu.
SGS3 cpu tests are saying that SGS3 is more or less 20% faster then the HOX international version so I was wondering if maybe the cpu of HOX is more overclockable than that of the SGS3 or if anyway there is a way to bring the final performance of the 2 phone at a more or less the same level.
I would like an overall opinion so, for example, if the HOX is overclockable to increase the performance of a 20% BUT the SGS3 will be overclockable the same increasing the performance of a 20% too there will be anyway a lack of 20%
Shall I have some technical opinion on it (without creating fun boy flame or just "is more fashion" and so on...would like to speak only about the cpu)
Thanks
Max

Well take a look at the Transformer Prime ( tegra3 device )
Yep overclock till 1700 1800 Mhz is possible.
So to be sort and not so much technical Yes it can be done

Even if the one x can be overclocked to make up for the performance difference to a stock SGS3 it would require a higher voltage, which in return kills battery life even quicker. That, plus the difference in battery capacity in favor of the SGS3 =not a good idea.
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You got Quad Core with 1.5Ghz why on earth you want to overclock again. You have enough speed to run almost anything on One X. SGS 3 chipset is different so you might see different in performance. There Meizu MX which beats SGS 3 in benchmarks. So this will never stop. New device will keep on coming with better speed, better power management. You can't keep up with it.

With a custom kernel you can overclock untill 999999999999999999
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This goes in the question and answers section also, what does this have to do with developing, also why the heck would you want to overclock something that has more power than any other phone on the market right now?

You marked your post with a Q meaning it´s going to Q&A
m.zambonelli said:
Hi,
I'm sorry if I'm posting it on the wrong part of the forum, not sure if it's a General question or a Develop one.
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samuel2706 said:
This goes in the question and answers section also, what does this have to do with developing, also why the heck would you want to overclock something that has more power than any other phone on the market right now?
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To get a bigger (e-)penis ofc. But yeah, this should've been in Q&A. And yes, OC isn't really needed, but instead underclock and undervolt is something some of us want. And maybe turn of one or two of the cores, but maybe this doesn't save that much power?

kruppin said:
To get a bigger (e-)penis ofc. But yeah, this should've been in Q&A. And yes, OC isn't really needed, but instead underclock and undervolt is something some of us want. And maybe turn of one or two of the cores, but maybe this doesn't save that much power?
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Let's hope the phone gods grant us more battery life after underclocking/undervolting/disabling a core. And give us smooth performance while doing so

ShyamSasi said:
You got Quad Core with 1.5Ghz why on earth you want to overclock again. You have enough speed to run almost anything on One X. SGS 3 chipset is different so you might see different in performance. There Meizu MX which beats SGS 3 in benchmarks. So this will never stop. New device will keep on coming with better speed, better power management. You can't keep up with it.
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Well of course that ther ewill be always something more powerfull but SGS3 is almost real so...for more or less the same price why choose a less powerful device...even if you don't really need that power (but I quite doubt about it)

First of all, is your One X going to be an ATT phone? If so, the it has a dual core and not a quad...the quad core is the international version as it is not compatible with the LTE radio...in actuality, the Qualcomm Arm 7, s4 processor will usually out perform the quad core processor in the One XL...more does not mean faster...it would be rare to use all 4 processors at same time anyway...I plan to underfloor mine as 1.2 or so is fast enough without any lags on apps...and the HTC display is, by far, better than Samsung's super AMOLED display..sure it has high contrast but it's not as good...HTC also has beats audio and Samsung does not, unless HTC decides to license it to them, since HTC bought beats audio (51%) anyway...plus HTC is the original creator of android, not google...the first android was an HTC G1...Samsung should stick to TVs, where they do pretty well...but again, I am partial to HTC...and if u do get the galaxy 3, u will not be able to notice difference in speed unless u run benchmark tests, which are irrelevant in real world use of a phone...but it's personal preference...
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Sadly I'm from UK so, in case, the HOX will be international Quadcore (AT&T seems faster from the test I saw).
Actually from some video I saw on youtube the interface of HOX seems to be laggy sometimes (like it takes time to scroll the homescreen and so on) and so I thought that a faster CPU would help.
I would like to bring to your attention this test http://www.mobileblog.it/post/20433...batte-tutta-la-concorrenza-nei-test-benchmark (sadly the page is in italian but the photo of the test are in english) and HOX int is ALWAYS so far away from GS3
I also eared that the cpu of GS3 has less nm (so it's smaller) and so, in theory, will be even more overcloackable.
Can you confirm this for me please?

Unless you're planning on using your phone to find the 500 billionth decimal of pi, or to find a cure for cancer, I think you're reading into it far too much.
Perhaps it IS a much faster phone in benchmarks, but that gives you no real idea in real world use. Try out a One X in a shop or something. Honestly, it's overkill power, I've never had a single lag on it, and I too was looking for the most powerful thing I could find.
Lets face it, a week after you get the most powerful phone, another one twice as good came out (My friend bought the SGS not long before I got my HOX and it was amazing when it came out), and at the end of the day, what are you -really- using your phone for that demands such power?

I'm thinking of leaving Bada and buying an Android. Maybe this One S..?

Good morning.
I owned a Samsung Wave S8500 for the last two years and a Nokia E6 (one of the best phones I ever had).
After two years I feel sad because my Wave has a great hardware, but Samsung abandoned it, and the applications are still few, so I was thinking to buy an Android.
I'm searching for a phone with these features:
-support from community for a long time with ICS, JB, KLP (I would like to keep this phone for at least 2-3 years).
-good battery performance (my E6 lasts at least 2 days with data always on, so I hope that the battery will last for 1,5 days)
-I don't want a huge phone like the GNexus\SIII
So, One S owners, do you think that this phone fits for me?
Are there enough optimized roms?
Thanks a lot

I'd avoid it for now as most versions are now using the S3 chip. The S4 chip is the better version. Although a good phone wait a few months new releases will push down prices of current models.
You'll have a good choice to choose from in the last quarter of the year.
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nikzDHD said:
I'd avoid it for now as most versions are now using the S3 chip. The S4 chip is the better version. Although a good phone wait a few months new releases will push down prices of current models.
You'll have a good choice to choose from in the last quarter of the year.
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Here in Italy most of the One S are S4, and I'd bought it used because I can find it at 330 euros.
I don't want to spend 500 euros for a phone. I'd like to spend at the most 350 euros...

It's a good phone, but if you get the One S with the 1.7 GHz S3 processor, you might as well go with a Sensation and S-OFF the device for many more custom ROMs.

You could kiss your awesome Nokia battery life days good bye. I was the same (coming from the E71 though).
Android is power hungry but if you dont use your phone alot you could get a MAX of 2 days (my own experience with the one s with wifi on but not data).
If you want long term rom development, I would go for the GS3. With HTC releasing the one s with different socs it only hurt development and we don't know if the s3 soc is going to be the way forward.
I truely miss my Nokia but I don't see myself going for Windows Phone soon.
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Hunt3r.j2 said:
It's a good phone, but if you get the One S with the 1.7 GHz S3 processor, you might as well go with a Sensation and S-OFF the device for many more custom ROMs.
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I'd prefer to buy a recent phone, so I can keep it for at least 3 years. And as I said before, here in Italy most of used One S are S4.
Pheroh said:
You could kiss your awesome Nokia battery life days good bye. I was the same (coming from the E71 though).
Android is power hungry but if you dont use your phone alot you could get a MAX of 2 days (my own experience with the one s with wifi on but not data).
If you want long term rom development, I would go for the GS3. With HTC releasing the one s with different socs it only hurt development and we don't know if the s3 soc is going to be the way forward.
I truely miss my Nokia but I don't see myself going for Windows Phone soon.
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The GSIII and GNexus are too big for me. I like phones thar are pocketable and the One S is so slim that fits perfectly in my pocket, while with the GSIII I can't lift my leg...

You could try whit razr maxx...same one s screen size and resolution, but triple battery life
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From what you have said there, the one S sounds like your best bet. It is kind of pointless buying any devices at the minute though as we should be getting a number of new nexus devices around November as well as a few other phones by HTC etc. but they will most likely cost £400+
The only other alternatives, although not as good overall, are the GS 2 and xperia S.
The developing community should be good and going strong for at least another year and still be some activity for another year. 3 years hard to say.... most people get a new phone every year or 2 and some every few months.
Even if you did get the S3 version, the one S is still good and better than most other phones, in real world usage the biggest impact would be the battery life.
As I replied in another thread comparing against the desire S and sensation XE, the same will apply when compared to the sensation and in some areas also against the GS 2 and xperia S etc., maybe just not as much of a difference in a few things i.e. the camera quality:
Terminator19 said:
Eh?
It is still far better than a desire S even with the S3/adreno 220 and better than the XE (apart from storage options and you have removable batteries with them), excluding the GPU/CPU:
- far better camera overall, absolutely no contest between them
- way better build/perceived quality and IMO design/looks (subjective this)
- better screen overall (although some might prefer LCD on the XE and DS)
- battery life will still be better anyway
- more RAM
- much better audio
- newer device and will be getting jelly bean officially before the end of the year
- also another wee plus is that you will get more money when you sell the one S rather than the desire S and XE in a few months time or a year in order to fund for a new phone
Only reason to get the DS or XE is for a removable battery and SD slot and perhaps a better developing community (no idea what it is like for them)
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Bada sucks, buy the One S!

Terminator19 said:
From what you have said there, the one S sounds like your best bet. It is kind of pointless buying any devices at the minute though as we should be getting a number of new nexus devices around November as well as a few other phones by HTC etc. but they will most likely cost £400+
The only other alternatives, although not as good overall, are the GS 2 and xperia S.
The developing community should be good and going strong for at least another year and still be some activity for another year. 3 years hard to say.... most people get a new phone every year or 2 and some every few months.
Even if you did get the S3 version, the one S is still good and better than most other phones, in real world usage the biggest impact would be the battery life.
As I replied in another thread comparing against the desire S and sensation XE, the same will apply when compared to the sensation and in some areas also against the GS 2 and xperia S etc., maybe just not as much of a difference in a few things i.e. the camera quality:
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I was looking at GSII and Xperia S too, but I'd like the One S much because:
It's more powerful than the, has more resolution and it's newer than the SII.
It's more thinner than the Xperia S (though I don't know which of these two is really better).
stragent said:
Bada sucks, buy the One S!
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I'd prefer to say that Samsung sucks
Bada 2 years ago was a pretty decent and promising OS, but Samsung forgotten it.
And the Wave has still a pretty good hardware.

Alan Slade said:
I was looking at GSII and Xperia S too, but I'd like the One S much because:
It's more powerful than the, has more resolution and it's newer than the SII.
It's more thinner than the Xperia S (though I don't know which of these two is really better).
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The XS isn't as powerful as the S4 one S either. The screen is 720P, although I personally think the overall quality of the screen regarding colours etc. is pretty poor (although that is just my opinion, most people love it). Battery life isn't great iirc. The camera is very good, better than the GS 2 iirc, although is it better than the one S overall, probably not, the 1080P capture will be better though. Essentially:
Pros of the S (S4 version):
- better camera overall
- much better CPU/GPU
- better build/perceived quality and IMO design/looks (subjective this)
- colours of the screen
- battery life
- better audio
- newer device and will be getting jelly bean officially before the end of the year
- IMO sense V4 is far better
Pros of XS:
- much much sharper screen
- better 1080P recording
- more internal storage
- NFC
- possibly getting JB, SE are very good with updates, however, they do take a long time to get them out

Terminator19 said:
The XS isn't as powerful as the S4 one S either. The screen is 720P, although I personally think the overall quality of the screen regarding colours etc. is pretty poor (although that is just my opinion, most people love it). Battery life isn't great iirc. The camera is very good, better than the GS 2 iirc, although is it better than the one S overall, probably not, the 1080P capture will be better though. Essentially:
Pros of the S (S4 version):
- better camera overall
- much better CPU/GPU
- better build/perceived quality and IMO design/looks (subjective this)
- colours of the screen
- battery life
- better audio
- newer device and will be getting jelly bean officially before the end of the year
- IMO sense V4 is far better
Pros of XS:
- much much sharper screen
- better 1080P recording
- more internal storage
- NFC
- possibly getting JB, SE are very good with updates, however, they do take a long time to get them out
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I don't need a good camera on the phone, because I'm a photographer
As I said that I prefer the One s on the XS and GSII, and your post tell me that I've chosen right
For the updates, I think I'll use one of the roms on this forum (but first I must understand hot to root, install a recovery and so on lol), like the ViperOneS etc. and not the stock rom.

I haven't rooted my S, so can't really advise but the guide here seems to be very good and rather easy to follow:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1583427

Terminator19 said:
I haven't rooted my S, so can't really advise but the guide here seems to be very good and rather easy to follow:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1583427
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When i bought my One S i used that tutorial to Root, install CWM and later Viper One S Rom. It's an amazing phone.
I'm not a fan of S3 version (overclock and battery don't go well together.) It's contact linking and sync capabilities i think they are better than GSIII. Fast and reliable and the tweaks make it even better.

Alan Slade said:
I was looking at GSII and Xperia S too, but I'd like the One S much because:
It's more powerful than the, has more resolution and it's newer than the SII.
It's more thinner than the Xperia S (though I don't know which of these two is really better).
I'd prefer to say that Samsung sucks
Bada 2 years ago was a pretty decent and promising OS, but Samsung forgotten it.
And the Wave has still a pretty good hardware.
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+1
I gave my wave to my gf as she does not use whatsapp. Pretty fine built phone, great hardware (even nowadays 1GHz single core 5 mpx cammera phones are launched) and smooth OS, but with no support.

Good evening to all.
Finally I decided to buy a One S. It will arrive on monday.
As I said before, this will be my first Android phone, so I don't know anything about flash, bootloader, roms, kernels and so on,
I would like to try the ViperOneS rom (because everybody seems happy with it), but I don't know how to install it.
Also, is the Fusion Ultimate kernel good\necessary? Are this rom and kernel stable so I can have a good experience with this One S without problems?
Where I can find a guide to find out how to do this properly thing without bricking my phone? :fingers-crossed:
Thanks

No one can help me?

Alan Slade said:
No one can help me?
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Hey just check out this thread read the instruction thoroughly and you should be good to go http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1583427
Sent from my HTC One S using Tapatalk 2

Alan Slade said:
Good evening to all.
Finally I decided to buy a One S. It will arrive on monday.
As I said before, this will be my first Android phone, so I don't know anything about flash, bootloader, roms, kernels and so on,
I would like to try the ViperOneS rom (because everybody seems happy with it), but I don't know how to install it.
Also, is the Fusion Ultimate kernel good\necessary? Are this rom and kernel stable so I can have a good experience with this One S without problems?
Where I can find a guide to find out how to do this properly thing without bricking my phone? :fingers-crossed:
Thanks
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I don't know if the kernel is good (I've never tried it), but it is not necessary to install it.
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if i was you i would wait for the next nexus
when i got the One S i thought the devs would just buy it immediately but for some reason they went after the stupid One X
( OmG quad COORE is faster than DUeL buy buy )
just wait for the next nexus and ull keep getting faster updates than anything else