My Nexus one just broke and I thought about just getting the Nexus S. However, I've been told to get a crappy phone and wait until the dual cores hit full swing. I was also told that once dual cores are the standard that Google and other manufacturers will make their OS predominately multi-threaded based.
I've been advised to get the LG Optimus now or getting something crappy like the Motorola spice and wait for the dual core.
better wait a little for better
Depends on what you need and want really.
If you like endless fun with rooting, etc. Nexus S for sure.
Otherwise, jump on the dual core train.
I rooted the N1 and had fun putting different ROMs. However, when things got busy I found it to be a low priority. I honestly want a stable smartphone. One that doens't require constant restarting, etc...
Dual-core is nice and zippy but I don't see a big difference between it and a premium 1Ghz single core phone. I am very happy with the MT4G at the moment and have had it since Day 1. I will be waiting for Kai-El, but the SGSII is tempting if it does indeed come to tmobile. I would suggest you to save money and find a good deal on the xda marketplace for a single core phone then upgrade to Kai-El when it comes out. Good luck! Hope I helped.
The way I see it, there's a couple options you can go with.
1) Wait and see. This option is the most boring, but possibly has the most potential. However, I wouldn't recommend it-- unless you're on a regional carrier or Sprint, there's going to be a dual-core option for you immediately (and even then, that's going to change in a matter of days for the latter).
2) Buy an older, cheaper, less capable smartphone off-contract to keep yourself amused, then sign up for a dual-core phone when one strikes your fancy. This isn't a bad idea-- get an old phone that developers have already cracked wide open, get your fill of mods and custom roms, then switch to the dual-core phone when you feel performance is no longer up to snuff. Right now, dual-core isn't imperative for a silky-smooth user experience, but you damn well know it will be going into the future. Don't sign a contract for a phone with one core if you feel like you need to get the most out of the UI for the majority of that two-year period.
3) Take the plunge right away. Unless you're on Verizon like me, there shouldn't be much of a dilemma with dual-core phones. The Sensation 4G is nothing short of a triumph, the Evo 3D is both novel and amusing, and the Atrix 4G is gonna be even better than it already is once it gets Gingerbread and dumps the old MotoBlur. The trick with Verizon is that its only dual-core phone right now is the Droid X2, which lacks LTE. Still, that's what I bought, and I feel confident with the purchase. It's gonna be ready for whatever software's thrown at it over the next year or two.
imho, since you're interested in dual core, better wait a bit. See what will be announced till the end of year or begining 2012.
In the meantime, could grab a cheap lg optimus one which still has plenty juice left in it for many months to come and customize the sh1t out of it with plenty roms and kernels and the upcoming update to gb.
This way you'll have something to tincker with while standing by on the safe side to see what plans the companies have on dual core
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You are not going to see difference between single and dual core.
All the games I play run max fps even in single core.
Also you dont need dual core to browse website.
Really depends on what you want(battery life, ram, screen size, screen type).
I own desire hd and galaxy s II now.
Played with galaxy S, atrix, g2x.
I prefer desire hd over all because of screen size and mod.
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Trying to weigh my options with cell service. AT&T has been bothering me lately with dropped calls, down service etc. Really looking for a new phone (currently testing the Atrix).
I have seen some people claiming they got a 2700+ on Quadrant with this phone... is this true? How do live wallpapers run on this phone? I love having the latest and greatest software, so the Atrix might not be the best choice.
Anyone have both phones to give a comparison etc? Any comments in regards to T-Mobile service?
Thanks!
The Atrix, or any of the dual core phones coming, will most likely blow the Nexus S out of the water in terms of perfrmance, especially when they have an OS buiot to work with the two cores. That being said, this thing is flying with the latest update, at least for me. The graphics are just as good as any of the other Galaxy S phones, which aren't slouches in any way. Coming from AT&T, I will say that while AT&T has more penetration in terms of 3G where I live, T-Mobile has way better speeds, I've been up to 7mbs in places close to where I live. Then again, I go anywhere coastal and I have to live on Edge while I'm down there. So just depends on your area and who's better in terms of network.
Never used AT&T so I wouldn't know but I never really have any compliants with T-Mobile. 2700+ Quadrant, yeah its possible. Quadrant benchmarks (or benchmarks) don't really mean anything to be honest.
Live Wallpapers run fine, although I don't use it.
With a Google Experience phone, you'll always have the latest updates including kernels open sourced as soon as possible.
And to be honest, the Atrix and all those other dual core phones are most likely being crippled by the custom Android skin. So it wouldn't be worth it if you want the best possible experience as a enthusiast.
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The Atrix, or any of the dual core phones coming, will most likely blow the Nexus S out of the water in terms of perfrmance, especially when they have an OS buiot to work with the two cores. That being said, this thing is flying with the latest update, at least for me. The graphics are just as good as any of the other Galaxy S phones, which aren't slouches in any way. Coming from AT&T, I will say that while AT&T has more penetration in terms of 3G where I live, T-Mobile has way better speeds, I've been up to 7mbs in places close to where I live. Then again, I go anywhere coastal and I have to live on Edge while I'm down there. So just depends on your area and who's better in terms of network.
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From this video the Atrix doesnt look like it blew the Nexus S out of anything.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm3BJ2vKpGM
@charlieb620, thanks for the link for that video, that was a really good comparision. I guess that shows that there really is a difference between Froyo and Gingerbread. I'm not knocking the Nexus in any way but when the Atrix and the rest of the Duals get better software, they will be amazing. I am surprised by the screen of the Atrix though.
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@charlieb620, thanks for the link for that video, that was a really good comparision. I guess that shows that there really is a difference between Froyo and Gingerbread. I'm not knocking the Nexus in any way but when the Atrix and the rest of the Duals get better software, they will be amazing. I am surprised by the screen of the Atrix though.
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yeah they will be amazing, but i have alot of people talking down on my Nexus since the atrix came out but every test i ran and compared i won. but i guess they when when it comes to having dual core
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@charlieb620, thanks for the link for that video, that was a really good comparision. I guess that shows that there really is a difference between Froyo and Gingerbread. I'm not knocking the Nexus in any way but when the Atrix and the rest of the Duals get better software, they will be amazing. I am surprised by the screen of the Atrix though.
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yeah they will be amazing, but i have alot of people talking down on my Nexus since the atrix came out but every test i ran and compared i won. but i guess they when when it comes to having dual core
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The truth is that until those dual core phones have Honeycomb or Ice Cream they will not perform as well as single core phones optimized for modern OS' like Gingerbread. Hell, they'll probably start to do a bit better once they have Gingerbread but it still won't beat the Nexus S.
I do find it funny that the Nexus S was supposed to have a dual core but that got axed because Gingerbread doesn't "support" dual core processors, yet all these dual core phones are shipping with Froyo. I guess that for at least a year, we can take solace in the fact that we own one of the better Android devices for the time being.
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I do find it funny that the Nexus S was supposed to have a dual core but that got axed because Gingerbread doesn't "support" dual core processors, yet all these dual core phones are shipping with Froyo. I guess that for at least a year, we can take solace in the fact that we own one of the better Android devices for the time being.
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Thats sort of the idea. I mean, the same could be said of the Nexus One; it was the best phone when it came out but not long after bigger, better, faster phones came out. Sure, when dual core phones get future iterations of Android we'll be behind the curve but by that point there will be a new Nexus at which point I'll have sold my Nexus S for the Nexus New
Hello, I have a captivate with rogers at the moment and I have had enough with them. I am not happy with Rogers, their service is sketchy where I am. Bell and Telus have great service here, but I am leaning towards Bell because I have alot of other services with them, they have great coverage here, and It would seem they have the most attractive phone to me.
I am looking at the Motorola Atrix that will be released here soon, Is this a good choice ? What I would like in a phone is a dual core processor, 1GB RAM, and at least 16GB internal storage.
I know Samsung is coming out with a 4.5" phone that fits the above and the bigger the screen the better for me! But I have no idea who is going to carry it, when it will come, etc.
Is the Atrix a good phone to go to ? should I wait till there are more dual core options here in Canada ? are there any other ones announced with an arrival date ?
Thanks guys.
I've heard that the atrix isn't as impressive as it seems, but Samsung is slow at updates.
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I don't know too much about the canadian carriers, but I just went through a similar phone switch on AT&T. I looked at the atrix, as well as the HTC Inspire HD (aka HTC Desire HD).
I'm not trying to convert you away from the Atrix, which is probably a great phone, but I eventually chose the Insipre for the following reasons:
- Solid build quality (The Inspire Snapdragon is a safer choice than a first gen dual-core for me, considering the good benchmark scores of the Inspire - easily good enough for me for awhile). For some reason the Atrix plastic cover and design seemed dated to me (but I generally like HTC's hardware designs anyway, and I like the extra weight in the device).
- HTC Sense > MotoBlur (both in style, and performance), but since I'll probably run custom ROMs it won't matter to me all that much (and for style, I'll probably end up with LaucherPro, ADW, etc as a launcher anyway).
- The Inspire boards seem to have a decent amount of Dev support on their side, though I'm sure I will really sadly miss Designgears wonderful work (pretty sure he's got an Atrix). Keep in mind the Inspire has a head-start with all the DesireHD rom work that's out there, the Atrix is likely going to get a bunch of support too.
- HTC has claimed the Desire HD will get 2.3 by the end of June, and HTC has been one of the more reliable companies for getting updates put out there. (I have no doubt that the Atrix will get 2.3, but will Moto try some new bootloader protection?)
That's it for now, as I probably should be working.
Just my opinions though, hopefully helps you in your decision.
Atrix would be a pretty nice phone, but I'm always kind of skeptical when it comes to Motorola Phones. I'd look into some HTC phones. In my experience, they are the overall best Android manufacturer. Not sure what phones are available in Canada though.
try LG optimus 3d. 4gb ram. dual core. highest quadrant score.
I was interested in the Atrix too. Judging by all the negative posts over in the Atrix forum, I think I'll pass on it. Do yourself a favour and pass on it as well. I too was not happy with Rogers, and switched to FIDO (I know same company). I've dealt with Bell on other issues (not cell phone) and they are no better. I do agree though I think their coverage area and network (Bell) is best.
Well I mean, hoe are you going to say he should or shouldn't get it if you haven't even used it? The best you can do is post your oppinions oon the device and what you do and don't like.
However, I have it and I'm taking it back. Not because it is a bad phone or there are things wrong with it, but I just don't want to use my upgrade right now and I don't need the phone.
It has a higher resolution so things are smaller and crisper, allowing you to see more things at one time.
The phone is amazingly fast and the high amount of RAM lets you have many apps in the background without slowing down at all.
The battery life is great, and people areg reporting great life with the phone; I couldn't complain.
All in all, if you aren't going to upgrade to a custom kernel, then youll be good to go.
Anymore qquestions, feel free to ask.
I bought my infuse just 3 months after buying the inspire. Luckily i got the inspire for $99 however I did pay full price $599 for infuse. I didn't realize the Galaxy S 2 was out already, now i want to buy the $850 Galaxy S2. It's getting great reviews all around. I can sell my inspire for $350 and take infuse back to best buy and get back $642 with tax, and that's way more then enough to get an international Galaxy S2 without anymore money out of pocket. Has all AT&T bands so 3G and 4G will be no problem. I like my infuse, however if i got the dual core GS2 I think I'd be satisfied with the phone for at least a year rather then 6 months like usual.
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I bought my infuse just 3 months after buying the inspire. Luckily i got the inspire for $99 however I did pay full price $599 for infuse. I didn't realize the Galaxy S 2 was out already, now i want to buy the $850 Galaxy S2. It's getting great reviews all around. I can sell my inspire for $350 and take infuse back to best but and get back $642 with tax, and that's way more then enough to get an international Galaxy S2 without anymore money out of pocket. Has all AT&T bands so 3G and 4G will be no problem. I like my infuse, however if i got the dual core GS2 I think I'd be satisfied with the phone for at least a year rather then 6 months like usual.
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I just bought it. It was $849.99 with free shipping, but i upgraded to next day air lol
I'd do it if I was you. You don't need 2 phones. It's not like you can actually use both phones at the same time. So why not get the best phone out there instead of 2 good phones?
The galaxy is an amazing phone. I have both. The screen on the infuse is actually a hit better. Both devices feel amazing in hand. I like the search button on the infuse.
The speed of the gsII is no contest though. Its so fast its ridiculous. Touch Wiz4 is a marked improvement over tw3. Is it worth the $200 premium? Provably. Just not having an at&t logo might be worth that
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The galaxy is an amazing phone. I have both. The screen on the infuse is actually a hit better. Both devices feel amazing in hand. I like the search button on the infuse.
The speed of the gsII is no contest though. Its so fast its ridiculous. Touch Wiz4 is a marked improvement over tw3. Is it worth the $200 premium? Provably. Just not having an at&t logo might be worth that
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Do you think the speed is more 2.3 or the two cores? When you hold side by side what one do you want o take off with for the day?
Do you REALLY need dual core? What is the "killer app" that uses dual core currently? Personally, I think dual core will be more important in a year or two, once some actual apps (beyond games) start taking advantage of dual core architecture. Right now, I don't see app developers really relying on dual core as the best platform to develop for - too few customers have them at this point. Just my humble opinion.
I share the opinion of deathpulse.
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Do you think the speed is more 2.3 or the two cores? When you hold side by side what one do you want o take off with for the day?
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Without a doubt the SGSII.
It's a better device.
They're both great, but it's a super easy choice.
The processor is much better dual core or not.
TW4 is way way way better.
Android natively utilizes dual cores no matter what people are confused about.
So... how does a dual core make "android" materially "better" now? Does it scroll .0001 ms faster? Is that REALLY worth a smaller/inferior screen and less battery life?
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Without a doubt the SGSII.
It's a better device.
They're both great, but it's a super easy choice.
The processor is much better dual core or not.
TW4 is way way way better.
Android natively utilizes dual cores no matter what people are confused about.
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Thanks! I'm more on the AOSP side of things and hopefully wont have to deal with any version of TW with either phone I end up with, already using cm6 mms.apk. So it comes down to cpu and memory but smaller display for 200$ more out of my pocket.... ARGH! Hard decision is hard. I just learned you can hold menu for search on the gs2 so maybe I would be ok with that (I use search as my appdrawer/contact's)
Man so much anger and hostility on these forums, calm down guys. Both phones are great it just depends on what your priorities are.
I hope my posts were not taken as "angry". I am not angry in the least - I am just trying to present a rational view of the two phones. The "big" selling point for the SG2 seems to be "dual core" but I have not heard of a single app that requires a dual core processor. To me this sounds like a GREAT marketing bullet with very little real world application. In addition, dual core processors use more power, so battery life should be lower. Overall, I am hoping someone tells me some solid and rational point that is counter to my view if my view is incorrect. I still have 3 weeks to give the Infuse back to AT&T and purchase an SG2. I do prefer a larger screen (came from the Dell Streak 5") and a longer battery life though so I do not see how the SG2 is in anyway a "better" phone. Yes it has a dual core processor - no I can't see a specific list of things/applications that a dual core would give me today that a single core does not. My answer will likely be different in 6 months time, so I will re-evaluate to see if new apps etc come out that require dual core and purchase the best device when that time comes.
Thoughts?
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I hope my posts were not taken as "angry". I am not angry in the least - I am just trying to present a rational view of the two phones. The "big" selling point for the SG2 seems to be "dual core" but I have not heard of a single app that requires a dual core processor. To me this sounds like a GREAT marketing bullet with very little real world application. In addition, dual core processors use more power, so battery life should be lower. Overall, I am hoping someone tells me some solid and rational point that is counter to my view if my view is incorrect. I still have 3 weeks to give the Infuse back to AT&T and purchase an SG2. I do prefer a larger screen (came from the Dell Streak 5") and a longer battery life though so I do not see how the SG2 is in anyway a "better" phone. Yes it has a dual core processor - no I can't see a specific list of things/applications that a dual core would give me today that a single core does not. My answer will likely be different in 6 months time, so I will re-evaluate to see if new apps etc come out that require dual core and purchase the best device when that time comes.
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Galaxy S II:
Dual core cpu (vs. single on the Infuse, but supposedly still gets great battery life)
Faster GPU than the Infuse (but not by a massive amount)
1GB RAM (vs. ~640MB in the Infuse)
1080p video recording and playback (vs. 720p on the Infuse)
Gingerbread out of the box (vs. Froyo on the Infuse)
TouchWiz 4.0 (quite a few nice enhancements over TW 3.0 on the Infuse, and much sexier as well)
But it also has a smaller/less quality screen, correct? What is Touchwiz? I use ADW - does that work with Touchwiz? 1080p is no advantage for me either. Not sure why you would want this in a phone? hmm.... What does 1GB of RAM give me?
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But it also has a smaller/less quality screen, correct? What is Touchwiz? I use ADW - does that work with Touchwiz? 1080p is no advantage for me either. Not sure why you would want this in a phone? hmm....
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Same quality screen, just slightly smaller, which will actually make it look sharper.
Pretty much everything that came on your phone is part of or influenced by the "TouchWiz UI". The launcher, theme, and all of the apps that aren't from the Market or from AT&T (Phone, Messaging, Browser, Gallery, Memo, etc., etc., etc.). So the theme and pretty much all of the software on the Galaxy S II has been tweaked/improved/changed compared to the Infuse. Samsung's latest Android customizations and apps if you will.
Im thinking i will use the infuse until next summer..by then im the res.will be better and maybe quad core and better batt.life and of course i now require a 4.5 screen
So, in your opinion, I should return the Infuse and get the SG2? Any thoughts on which platform will have more development for it? THis matters to me more than Gingerbread and Tocuhwiz...
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Full HDMI mirroring (vs. limited HDMI output on the Infuse)
NFC (only on some Galaxy S II versions, like the ones in Korea)
16GB and 32GB versions (vs. just a 16GB version of the Infuse)
8GB MicroSD card included (vs. 2GB on the Infuse)
What is NFC? I already have a few 32gb micoSD cards - that is a wash. Does the SG2 have network media sharing like the Infuse?
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So, in your opinion, I should return the Infuse and get the SG2? Any thoughts on which platform will have more development for it? THis matters to me more than Gingerbread and Tocuhwiz...
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Galaxy S II will have 50 times more development for it.
Don't get me wrong, the Infuse is a great phone, but it's no Galaxy S II. Whether you should get it or not depends on what you can afford. You could buy the Infuse for $200 on contract, sell it for $500, and then get a GSII for $750. Just depends on whether or not the features/improvements I mentioned are worth ~$250 extra to you. If you have money to throw around, definitely do it. If $250 sounds like a lot to you, maybe wait 2-3 months until the Galaxy S II officially comes to AT&T and you can get it cheaper. Or if you're perfectly content with your Infuse and none of the things I listed sound appealing, that's a fine choice too.
Money is really not the issue .
I bought a nexus S May 26. I left my pre for it. I was happy with my pre, but the battery life had become unbearable (4-6 hrs) and the sales person was good. My opening line to him was, "I don't want the Nexus S bc it is last gen tech No dual core no gyroscope." Anyways I was talked into getting it.
Now the rumors are running rampant with news of the Samsung Within coming in July! (I know this does not amount to anything) I called sprint and straight up asked the rep if sprint was getting a galaxy S 2. He put me on hold for a min while he asked he higher up when he came back he told me "I can neither confirm nor deny sprint getting a galaxy S 2"
The Nexus S is a great phone. Although I have been able to make it stutter while loading web pages (engadget joystiq). The battery life is good, but anything is good coming from the pre with an old battery.
So my prob is do I return my Nexus S in the next 2 days and wait for the SGS2 to come out? Or be happy with what I got?
I am open to ALL opinions.
I would just get the SGS2. The phone is more "future proof", and if you're going to be running custom roms on it anyway, then all the more so.
Only reason I'd go for NS over SGS2 at this time is the stock barebones android vs the bada UI which I don't quite like.
I got my NS in January cos it made sense then. 6 months later, I can't say I would do it again.
Agree that SGS2 will be pretty much future proof. However, any improvements in hardware ( dual core) will not create any noticeable effects on daily usage.
My best bet is to wait I guess. And furthermore no phones are future proof
Hummingbirds are pretty much for now.
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Agree that SGS2 will be pretty much future proof. However, any improvements in hardware ( dual core) will not create any noticeable effects on daily usage.
My best bet is to wait I guess. And furthermore no phones are future proof
Hummingbirds are pretty much for now.
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Have you played with the SGS2? It just launched under Starhub yesterday right?
It's a pretty sweet device. IMO, the only thing the NS has over the SGSII is that we're gonna get ICS first. That's if you're gonna flash custom ROMs of course.
At this point, hardware-wise, SGSII is the best Android phone there is. It's got all the goodness of the NS but that dual core processor instead of a single.
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Have you played with the SGS2? It just launched under Starhub yesterday right?
It's a pretty sweet device. IMO, the only thing the NS has over the SGSII is that we're gonna get ICS first. That's if you're gonna flash custom ROMs of course.
At this point, hardware-wise, SGSII is the best Android phone there is. It's got all the goodness of the NS but that dual core processor instead of a single.
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Yes, but however I went to test the SGS2 I found that the software isn't as optimized as NS. And moreover, the ram management just isn't up to the mark.
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Ive owned both and will say that the sgs2 is hands down the fastest stock phone made right now. But the problem with both phones is that you will get bored with them very fast. If your like me that is.
Bottom line, if i were choosing between the 2 I'd take the sgs2 over the sns in a heart beat. The sgs2 is gaining dev attention fast and that will make it more fun.
Just my opinion.
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Hey guys just trying to decide on a phone I was wondering if the infuse is the phone for me any advice? Do you guys like it? If you could get a different one what would you get? Thanks
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Honestly, at this point wait for the SGSII. The phone come out at the end of the month.
I couldn't be much happier with my Infuse. It's a great phone. However, the SGSII will be coming out soon, so you have a tricky decision to make.
The advantages the Infuse has are a 4.5" screen as opposed to the 4.3" screen on the SGSII. Also, you can walk into a store tomorrow and get it.
The advantages of the SGSII are it's dual core processor, and the fact that it will likely have an insanely huge development community.
Both phones have a 1.2 GHz processor, but the dual core in the SGSII will definitely give it an edge. However, I don't have any lag on my infuse whatsoever, so that is kind of negligible to me.
Also, even though the development community for the Infuse will be smaller in the long run, it isn't bad by any means.
It's really a win-win with either choice in my eyes, as right now I would choose my Infuse over anything on the market right now.
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I couldn't be much happier with my Infuse. It's a great phone. However, the SGSII will be coming out soon, so you have a tricky decision to make.
The advantages the Infuse has are a 4.5" screen as opposed to the 4.3" screen on the SGSII. Also, you can walk into a store tomorrow and get it.
The advantages of the SGSII are it's dual core processor, and the fact that it will likely have an insanely huge development community.
Both phones have a 1.2 GHz processor, but the dual core in the SGSII will definitely give it an edge. However, I don't have any lag on my infuse whatsoever, so that is kind of negligible to me.
Also, even though the development community for the Infuse will be smaller in the long run, it isn't bad by any means.
It's really a win-win with either choice in my eyes, as right now I would choose my Infuse over anything on the market right now.
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I wonder if dual core will make a "real world" difference? When multi-core CPU's for Desktop and Laptop PC's came out they made little difference until there were applications that supported them. It took a number of years for that to happen for other than high end business products.
Is more hype then fact?
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I wonder if dual core will make a "real world" difference? When multi-core CPU's for Desktop and Laptop PC's came out they made little difference until there were applications that supported them. It took a number of years for that to happen for other than high end business products.
Is more hype then fact?
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A easier way to make money with a wow factor.
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Best phone I have ever owned. I love it. Fast, great battery life, and the screen is just simply amazing.
The dev section here sucks, g2g and the rest of the dev's for this phone work hard and create some great stuff but there are far too many arrogant and whiney users constantly putting down their work and crying like little girls because they don't understand how to follow directions or realize that roms are a work in progress. Soon the SII will come out and most of them will leave and this section will get a lot more sane and the SII section is going to go to hell.
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I wonder if dual core will make a "real world" difference? When multi-core CPU's for Desktop and Laptop PC's came out they made little difference until there were applications that supported them. It took a number of years for that to happen for other than high end business products.
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dual core always makes a difference, it just doesnt make a 100% difference. there are times it might eliminate all lag making it seem like a world of difference, other times it can make zero difference. the big advantage is when background services are running or on a pc when you have multiple windows open and running different applications. but now pc applications are multi-threaded taking more advantage even when multi tasking is at a minimum.
also remember the dual core phones have faster ram and are arm cortex a9 processors not a8. there may be some new hardware level advancements that can be taken advantage of in the next android releases.
as far as graphics processing goes we have a good gpu and are comparable to a tegra in raw capabilities. though the benchmarks often give the tegra an advantage in speed i find the renderings to look better on the samsung. im not saying anything one way or another. the infuse can accomplish anything a dual core can as far as far as video playback and graphics but the dual core phones have there merit. look at youtube vids side by side of a sgs2 web browsing against other devices. it powers through flash a lot faster than anything else i have seen.
Dani897 said:
dual core always makes a difference, it just doesnt make a 100% difference. there are times it might eliminate all lag making it seem like a world of difference, other times it can make zero difference. the big advantage is when background services are running or on a pc when you have multiple windows open and running different applications. but now pc applications are multi-threaded taking more advantage even when multi tasking is at a minimum.
also remember the dual core phones have faster ram and are arm cortex a9 processors not a8. there may be some new hardware level advancements that can be taken advantage of in the next android releases.
as far as graphics processing goes we have a good gpu and are comparable to a tegra in raw capabilities. though the benchmarks often give the tegra an advantage in speed i find the renderings to look better on the samsung. im not saying anything one way or another. the infuse can accomplish anything a dual core can as far as far as video playback and graphics but the dual core phones have there merit. look at youtube vids side by side of a sgs2 web browsing against other devices. it powers through flash a lot faster than anything else i have seen.
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I, like MrEdf (I'm Mr. Ed 2 lol) don't see much of a difference when using todays line up of applications when it comes to single vs dual...
the ram is supposed to be better but we have no devices utilizing that to test with right now...so it is just speculation.
take the dual core phones out now and run them through real world scenarios side by side with an overclocked android device be it hummingbird or snapdragon and look for a difference....granted the benchmark will be better on the dual core and it truly is more powerful, there isn't much developed to at this point that will utilize it.
what I hope to see is better multitasking. i get completely scattered going back and forth between apps and my phone gets all pissed off about it.
I've mentioned in a few other threads my plans...I'll test several devices (atrix is already out of the picture) like the lg thrill, the gs2 and my infuse, prolly throw our inspire into the tests just for fun... in the end I will use the one I like the most
I love this phone....right now. ask me again in a month lol
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assuming infuse on froyo whereas s2 on gingerbread.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hqo5Rmx3WtA
if difference is fraction of a second then i think one can live with it.
at the end of the day both are just phones and for more complicated work we have laptops and netbooks or tablets.
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assuming infuse on froyo whereas s2 on gingerbread.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hqo5Rmx3WtA
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He has some excellent comparison videos...
keep in mind that is the euro s2 as well..who knows what variation we end up with in the US
I love this phone, the devs are awesome and their product is top notch. I have yet to find a rom our kernel that I wouldn't run. Everything is good and its just a matter of preference and a few specific features. The community its great, aside from a few bad apples, but generally they are very helpful and informative.
I too was looking at the sgII but needed a new phone and picked up the infuse, I have no regrets, plus the scuttlebutt if that the attain (att version of sgII) will have a physical keyboard.
All in all, infuse is they best phone I've ever owned and can easily see it keeping me happy for a long time.
Infused with gingerbread **** thanks GTG465X
Agree with many people here. Wait for the SGSII. Don't get me wrong, the Infuse is a great phone, but unless the SGSII is over $200 on contract, I would just wait for it
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The SGSII is certainly the phone to beat, however be aware that it has a smaller battery than the Infuse and with the dual core processor it's battery life is not great. Also rumor has it that AT&T's version will have a slide-out keyboard (confirmed by a friend of mine who works at an AT&T store). If that's the case I would have no interest in the phone because the keyboard will make it thicker. In any case you can get an Infuse and have 30 days to try it out before needing to return it. Samsung is having their release event later this month so you'd still be inside the return window if they announce something your interested in. I find the 1.2Ghz processor in the Infuse to be outstanding and don't find any speed complaints, in fact I'd trade better battery life for single core versus dual core. And our Infuse has the largest Super AMOLED Plus screen.