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[Q] Why all the interest with no HSPA+ ???

No 4G??? Why all the fanfare? Aren't 3G devices pretty much headed for obsolete street already?
Seriously, what am I missing? Why would a major manufacturer introduce it's new "flagship high end" phone with this speed handicap??? Will the video calling even work on 3G?
Any why all the interest here? Isn't basically it just a Vibrant with no sd card and 2.3?

hellcatrydr said:
No 4G??? Why all the fanfare? Aren't 3G devices pretty much headed for obsolete street already?
Seriously, what am I missing? Why would a major manufacturer introduce it's new "flagship high end" phone with this speed handicap??? Will the video calling even work on 3G?
Any why all the interest here? Isn't basically it just a Vibrant with no sd card and 2.3?
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7.2MB/s down and ~5MB/s up...is plenty fast even for video calling

I agree, this thing is way out of control on name (nexus) alone. But I will say what is 4G? According to standards agreed upon by a standards conference this is what that means:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G
Every carrier, starting with sprint is lying about 4g. There is a HUGE discrepancy from what the standard was set as and what they deliver.
To me the idea that a phone branded nexus does not have an sd slot and a 16g internal is crazy. Add that to t-mobile 3g? Where is the iphone giant killer? We all know what it should be, they know what it is too. To me, while nexus s may be a great addition to the galaxy line, it seems like phone manufacturers just laugh and take our money.
Why should we have to decide memory over front facing camera? Processor over screen type?
I would argue that google may have forgotten what the point was in the first place.
EVERYTHING, THE BEST, AND YOU GET TO SHAPE IT!
Mediocre cams and weak memory, good lord, next thing you know we got google nexus junior with pre paid minutes.

So, are you complaining about no "4G" or are you complaining about people being all "Hell no, where's the 4G? I'm gonna kill someone tonight." Just wandering. Got confused when I read the title and the post.

Because 3G at 7.2 Megabits (not MB/sec) is more than adequate. Average speed for the HSPA+ network ranges from 2-5Mbps (not official) with peaks of 10-12Mbps. Those peaks are a rarity on a site with almost no traffic. You'll need a strong & good signal to boot.

I hate this "adequate" argument.
There was a time when 512kb broadband was fine. There was a time people thought you don't need more than 256kb of RAM on a PC.
Fact is, if you don't put the new technology out there, we won't find uses for it. Nexus S hasn't brought anything new of SIGNIFICANCE - is my problem. Being evolutionary to a Nexus One, which is coming to a year old, isn't acceptable, especially when you use tech which has been around for time, but more importantly, miss tech which has been used for months.

hellcatrydr said:
Any why all the interest here? Isn't basically it just a Vibrant with no sd card and 2.3?
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Yup, that's correct.

JCopernicus said:
Yup, that's correct.
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It's more than that. It's a pure Google phone. Pure open. It will be the focus of Android. And that's what it is out for. The Nexus One is collecting dust. This is a hefty enough upgrade. The Tegra 2 itself barely outperforms the hummingbird anyway, and this Dual Core Snapdragon crap is all rumors but possible, but probably won't be out for another 6~ months. Of course, wait another 6 months, then the dual core epic nexus will come out (and people will complain because it isn't quad core)
It's a great, gorgeous, and powerful phone. It's everything I wanted out of my Vibrant originally. I'm getting it, and it's awesome, and I'm 99% sure I'm gonna love it with no complaints and never look back.
As for HSPA+, very few places actually get advantages from this. T-Mobile's 3g is already faster than LTE or Wimax will be for another year. The only way you'd benefit from HSPA+ is if you are peaking at 7.2mbps already and want to go past that, which I have. I've gotten 10mbps on a G2. 7.2 on Vibrant. But really, they average 4-8, both of them.

Thanks for the responses. 1 more question... So, this S phone has software supported by Google, not Samsung? And if so, how would software updates be expected to differ from Samsung software updates? (which are slow coming if they come at all.)
For N1 owners how does it work? OTA updates pushed by Google?
I'm not a sophisticated user... I have a rooted Vibrant never flashed. It is, to me, a phenomenal device. I'd like to learn more about flashing roms and get some experience but I cannot risk my phone.... yet.
I'm thinking about getting the S and then I can feel better about using & tweaking the Vibrant as a learning tool.

Anderdroid said:
It's more than that. It's a pure Google phone. Pure open. It will be the focus of Android. And that's what it is out for. The Nexus One is collecting dust. This is a hefty enough upgrade. The Tegra 2 itself barely outperforms the hummingbird anyway, and this Dual Core Snapdragon crap is all rumors but possible, but probably won't be out for another 6~ months. Of course, wait another 6 months, then the dual core epic nexus will come out (and people will complain because it isn't quad core)
It's a great, gorgeous, and powerful phone. It's everything I wanted out of my Vibrant originally. I'm getting it, and it's awesome, and I'm 99% sure I'm gonna love it with no complaints and never look back.
As for HSPA+, very few places actually get advantages from this. T-Mobile's 3g is already faster than LTE or Wimax will be for another year. The only way you'd benefit from HSPA+ is if you are peaking at 7.2mbps already and want to go past that, which I have. I've gotten 10mbps on a G2. 7.2 on Vibrant. But really, they average 4-8, both of them.
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Tegra 2 is old news, Orion is what we are looking forward to.

hellcatrydr the Nexus One and Nexus S will have OTA software updates pushed directly from Google. The Nexus One had Froyo before anyone else. I expect the same to be true of the Nexus S.

Not all mobile operator has HSPA+
I can live with 3G, it is fast enough (1.5 Mbps average).
Also, I cannot wait any longer to have a Google phone!

Supermighty said:
hellcatrydr the Nexus One and Nexus S will have OTA software updates pushed directly from Google. The Nexus One had Froyo before anyone else. I expect the same to be true of the Nexus S.
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And that's the real selling factor!
Both manufacturer and carrier have a horrible track record when it comes to software updates. No one wants to use the previous software version when a newer one exists.

ma2k5 said:
Tegra 2 is old news, Orion is what we are looking forward to.
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Orion is old news. Aquila is what we are looking forward to.

All current HSPA devices will gain profit though "so called 4G" upgrade.
Now I get much lower latency (40-130ms) with MyTouch 4 over 3.75G.
Except you have to run 5 or more computers on the network or run 1080p youtube (3-4Mbps), current HSPA network is more than enough, GUARANTEED!

Hamsteriel said:
Orion is old news. Aquila is what we are looking forward to.
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I don't think we'll see the Aquila in phones... There will probably be a new quad core for that. And it'll probably be late 2013 the soonest before we can even expect quad cores to be planned for production for phones.

Time to upgrade already??

I've had the Captivate since XMas, and now with the Motorola Atrix being released March 1st by AT&T I have to have it.....
Why? Dual core 1Gig processors, 1 gig ram, front facing camera, FM radio, gorilla glass, 4G speeds, 1950 mah battery, a real LED light, etc..... and its a Motorola.
It's going to be a better more capable phone, but also very expensive, No price set yet, but its going for 650 euros which is 950 US give or take.
The good news is that all of the purchased apps will port over to the new phone
panflute

I don't see what's so great about it... Captivate already has Gorilla Glass, AT&T's 4G is equivalent if you already have a HSUPA-enabled Captivate, and Motorola makes some of the crappiest phones that I have ever used (not since the STAR-TAC have they made a good phone in my opinion).

People should treat these phones like our PC's. You buy one now, it's outdated around 6 months or less.
Double edge sword: Yay! I bought the latest and greatest!
****! I bought the latest and greatest 6 months ago.

Xstop said:
People should treat these phones like our PC's. You buy one now, it's outdated around 6 months or less.
Double edge sword: Yay! I bought the latest and greatest!
****! I bought the latest and greatest 6 months ago.
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Ain't that the truth..

Aus_Azn said:
I don't see what's so great about it... Captivate already has Gorilla Glass, AT&T's 4G is equivalent if you already have a HSUPA-enabled Captivate, and Motorola makes some of the crappiest phones that I have ever used (not since the STAR-TAC have they made a good phone in my opinion).
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Just because u enable hsupa doesn't make it equivalent to the atrix 4g....technically its not really 4g...its hsupa+ which the captivate does not have.... theoretically hsupa+ can achieve 4g speeds but not regularly. I feel the atrix is going to be a far superior phone. The only thing ill miss is my super amoled. And it has motoblur which motoblows but isn't as bad as touchwhiz but im sure it wont long until it gets rooted and roms are available. Plus it ships with froyo which we still have yet to officially get
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Doesn't att always remove the FM software?

Smallsmx3 said:
Just because u enable hsupa doesn't make it equivalent to the atrix 4g....technically its not really 4g...its hsupa+ which the captivate does not have.... theoretically hsupa+ can achieve 4g speeds but not regularly. I feel the atrix is going to be a far superior phone. The only thing ill miss is my super amoled. And it has motoblur which motoblows but isn't as bad as touchwhiz but im sure it wont long until it gets rooted and roms are available. Plus it ships with froyo which we still have yet to officially get
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HSUPA has nothing to really do with AT&T's 4g claims, it is HSDPA(which the captivate has) versus HSDPA+. It has more to do with download speed than upload. HSUPA is all about faster uploads. That is what is enabled by using an i9000 ROM, kernel, and modem. All current Galaxy S phones have HSDPA compatible modems, both physically and in software. The Captivate just got gimped without HSUPA speeds.
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Man its getting harder to keep up to. More than he crappy ass reality shows on TV.
*GalaxyS*

I'm confused by this thread. The title is a question, but the OP is a statement on getting the Atrix. How about making a question on the Captivate or go to the thread about what your future phone will be as that is older than this thread.

To upgrade or not?
And is it really an upgrade? I think this is a valid topic here since we all got our Captivates relatively recently. Since posting I found more info on the Tecra 2 processors. There are at least 5 phones set to be released and more coming for sure. The LG looks interesting too. I hear Motorola locked the bootloader on the Atrix. It may be too early to jump into an upgrade at this very moment till more details and facts are out. Cellhut is taking preorders for at Atrix ate $449, but there is a lot of negative comments out there on their business practices so that may be ill advised.
panflute

panflute said:
And is it really an upgrade? I think this is a valid topic here since we all got our Captivates relatively recently. Since posting I found more info on the Tecra 2 processors. There are at least 5 phones set to be released and more coming for sure. The LG looks interesting too. I hear Motorola locked the bootloader on the Atrix. It may be too early to jump into an upgrade at this very moment till more details and facts are out. Cellhut is taking preorders for at Atrix ate $449, but there is a lot of negative comments out there on their business practices so that may be ill advised.
panflute
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If you would have made your OP a question then it would have made more sense. You made a statement that "I have to have it." The bootloader will eventually get cracked, that is only a matter of time once the phone comes out. If you like Moto phones which seem up in the air for build quality that is up to you. Spec wise the Atrix is an upgrade, but that doesn't mean the Captivate or other SGS phones will be less superior. You also have to want the larger screen size and the fact it isn't SAMOLED.

panflute said:
I've had the Captivate since XMas, and now with the Motorola Atrix being released March 1st by AT&T I have to have it.....
Why? Dual core 1Gig processors, 1 gig ram, front facing camera, FM radio, gorilla glass, 4G speeds, 1950 mah battery, a real LED light, etc..... and its a Motorola.
It's going to be a better more capable phone, but also very expensive, No price set yet, but its going for 650 euros which is 950 US give or take.
The good news is that all of the purchased apps will port over to the new phone
panflute
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So what your saying is a phone coming out later is going to be better then the Captivate? I would hope it will be. Way to state the obvious bud.
But no, I will not be "upgrading" from the Captivate any time soon. The Captivate can do everything I need it to right now, and when I do upgrade to a new phone, it will be to a phone that is vastly more powerful, not just a little like the Atrix. Also I don't buy Motorola phones because they are garbage.

Upgrades upgrades upgrades....You guys will never be happy.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/24/nvidia-tegra-3-equipped-with-1-5ghz-quad-core-madness-teased-b/

gunstar3035 said:
I don't buy Motorola phones because they are garbage.
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Latest from At&t..

Anyone seen this--http://www.letstalk.com/htc-inspire-att?
Looks promising, may be my next upgrade from the cappy

Kinda old news. Inspire will release first, and will then be followed by the Moto Atrix and Samsung Infuse.

really? can't be that old of news, seeing as how it hasn't come out yet....but thanks for the input I'll check into those other names you mentioned

Update: IMO, moto atrix looks weak compared to the Samsung infuse, that thing is hot!
EDIT FOR THE MISUNDERSTOOD: when I said the moto atrix looked weak compared to the infusion, noticed I said LOOKED, I was only referring to the design, I felt that samsung's look is smoother thats all, I never took anything away from the processing, and operational features that the atrix so obviously hands down has over the infusion.

Klyentel said:
Update: IMO, moto atrix looks weak compared to the Samsung infuse, that thing is hot!
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Never again.

MikeyMike01 said:
Never again.
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lol, what are you a moto fanboy? The atrix meets up with specs, but honestly, who can touch Samsungs slick, and pretty designs?

Klyentel said:
Update: IMO, moto atrix looks weak compared to the Samsung infuse, that thing is hot!
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I just need to quote this for others to see in case you edit it.
Motorola Atrix...weak? Compared to the Infuse? Which is basically a large Captivate stock clocked from factory at 1.2Ghz? And that's a single core processor.
Atrix is dual core, has the ability to be used with docking station, has 1GB of ram.
Weak? Are you sure you're not the fanboy here? On paper, Atrix trumps.

I can't believe someone on this broad would still buy a Samsung phone!

Klyentel said:
Update: IMO, moto atrix looks weak compared to the Samsung infuse, that thing is hot!
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Haha the infuse will probably be as bad as the captivate when it comes to updates. It will probably also have ****ty GPS and lag. They make it look good but who cares if it doesn't work.
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bradleyG said:
Haha the infuse will probably be as bad as the captivate when it comes to updates. It will probably also have ****ty GPS and lag. They make it look good but who cares if it doesn't work.
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I'd say the GPS will be fixed with the Infuse but the lag...ehh..
I think for the most part, the majority here will spend their money else where.
For the original OP, you should do your research before putting on your knee high boots. Especially admitting that you haven't even heard of the Atrix or Infuse yet.
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really? can't be that old of news, seeing as how it hasn't come out yet....but thanks for the input I'll check into those other names you mentioned
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MikeyMike01 said:
Never again.
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Indeed Never Again.
If it weren't for the devs here on XDA my Captivate would have been tossed in the river months ago.

I agree, I will never buy a Samsung phone again, ever. In fact, I'll probably go to verizon when my contract is up in a year. Getting pretty tired of AT&T's bullcrap, lies false advertising, and overall ****ty service. Also the way they deal with problems: Bandwidths up this month, lets cut it down. At least verizon does it smartly and limits only the top 5% of people sucking down bandwidth, not the whole network.

norcal einstein said:
Atrix is dual core, has the ability to be used with docking station, has 1GB of ram.
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The dual core in Atrix is mostly for decoration purposes. Google won't have dual-core support in Android (Phone side) OS in the forseeable future. Only Honeycomb has dual-core support but that's not coming down to phones anytime soon.

saint168 said:
I can't believe someone on this broad would still buy a Samsung phone!
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What broad would that be? I hope she's pretty....

foxbat121 said:
The dual core in Atrix is mostly for decoration purposes. Google won't have dual-core support in Android (Phone side) OS in the forseeable future. Only Honeycomb has dual-core support but that's not coming down to phones anytime soon.
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While Android will be missing dual core support, the "webtop" is a full Linux OS, and as such will be able to make good use of a dual core CPU, especially since Android (the phone) will also be running simultaneously.

nkrick said:
While Android will be missing dual core support, the "webtop" is a full Linux OS, and as such will be able to make good use of a dual core CPU, especially since Android (the phone) will also be running simultaneously.
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I've been wondering this, what exactly IS webtop? If you watch the vids on the AT&T site it just shows people smiling and using them. Not actually what it looks like. It's incredibly frustrating.

GTIVRon said:
I agree, I will never buy a Samsung phone again, ever. In fact, I'll probably go to verizon when my contract is up in a year. Getting pretty tired of AT&T's bullcrap, lies false advertising, and overall ****ty service. Also the way they deal with problems: Bandwidths up this month, lets cut it down. At least verizon does it smartly and limits only the top 5% of people sucking down bandwidth, not the whole network.
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If you think AT&T's network is slow, you're going to be in for a surprise when you switch to Verizon. It is reliable though.
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What's everyones problem with the cappy? It seems you guys are blaming your phone, for your providers shortcomings. Im on my provider released 2.2. My gps works flawlessly.
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nkrick said:
While Android will be missing dual core support, the "webtop" is a full Linux OS, and as such will be able to make good use of a dual core CPU, especially since Android (the phone) will also be running simultaneously.
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Yes, purposely built and designed native apps can take advantage of dual core. But for day to day functions and almost all the APPs you use on the phone, dual-core is not supported. So, still, it is a descoretive item, not very useful for the life span of your current phone.

foxbat121 said:
Yes, purposely built and designed native apps can take advantage of dual core. But for day to day functions and almost all the APPs you use on the phone, dual-core is not supported. So, still, it is a descoretive item, not very useful for the life span of your current phone.
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If the rumors are true 2.4 will be out in April which adds dual core support
http://phandroid.com/2011/02/07/rum...d-dual-core-support-name-remains-gingerbread/
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Bought Infuse now I want galaxy s2 (Update: BOUGHT)

I bought my infuse just 3 months after buying the inspire. Luckily i got the inspire for $99 however I did pay full price $599 for infuse. I didn't realize the Galaxy S 2 was out already, now i want to buy the $850 Galaxy S2. It's getting great reviews all around. I can sell my inspire for $350 and take infuse back to best buy and get back $642 with tax, and that's way more then enough to get an international Galaxy S2 without anymore money out of pocket. Has all AT&T bands so 3G and 4G will be no problem. I like my infuse, however if i got the dual core GS2 I think I'd be satisfied with the phone for at least a year rather then 6 months like usual.

budco2000 said:
I bought my infuse just 3 months after buying the inspire. Luckily i got the inspire for $99 however I did pay full price $599 for infuse. I didn't realize the Galaxy S 2 was out already, now i want to buy the $850 Galaxy S2. It's getting great reviews all around. I can sell my inspire for $350 and take infuse back to best but and get back $642 with tax, and that's way more then enough to get an international Galaxy S2 without anymore money out of pocket. Has all AT&T bands so 3G and 4G will be no problem. I like my infuse, however if i got the dual core GS2 I think I'd be satisfied with the phone for at least a year rather then 6 months like usual.
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I just bought it. It was $849.99 with free shipping, but i upgraded to next day air lol

I'd do it if I was you. You don't need 2 phones. It's not like you can actually use both phones at the same time. So why not get the best phone out there instead of 2 good phones?

The galaxy is an amazing phone. I have both. The screen on the infuse is actually a hit better. Both devices feel amazing in hand. I like the search button on the infuse.
The speed of the gsII is no contest though. Its so fast its ridiculous. Touch Wiz4 is a marked improvement over tw3. Is it worth the $200 premium? Provably. Just not having an at&t logo might be worth that
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The galaxy is an amazing phone. I have both. The screen on the infuse is actually a hit better. Both devices feel amazing in hand. I like the search button on the infuse.
The speed of the gsII is no contest though. Its so fast its ridiculous. Touch Wiz4 is a marked improvement over tw3. Is it worth the $200 premium? Provably. Just not having an at&t logo might be worth that
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Do you think the speed is more 2.3 or the two cores? When you hold side by side what one do you want o take off with for the day?

Do you REALLY need dual core? What is the "killer app" that uses dual core currently? Personally, I think dual core will be more important in a year or two, once some actual apps (beyond games) start taking advantage of dual core architecture. Right now, I don't see app developers really relying on dual core as the best platform to develop for - too few customers have them at this point. Just my humble opinion.

I share the opinion of deathpulse.
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sportedwood said:
Do you think the speed is more 2.3 or the two cores? When you hold side by side what one do you want o take off with for the day?
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Without a doubt the SGSII.
It's a better device.
They're both great, but it's a super easy choice.
The processor is much better dual core or not.
TW4 is way way way better.
Android natively utilizes dual cores no matter what people are confused about.

So... how does a dual core make "android" materially "better" now? Does it scroll .0001 ms faster? Is that REALLY worth a smaller/inferior screen and less battery life?

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Without a doubt the SGSII.
It's a better device.
They're both great, but it's a super easy choice.
The processor is much better dual core or not.
TW4 is way way way better.
Android natively utilizes dual cores no matter what people are confused about.
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Thanks! I'm more on the AOSP side of things and hopefully wont have to deal with any version of TW with either phone I end up with, already using cm6 mms.apk. So it comes down to cpu and memory but smaller display for 200$ more out of my pocket.... ARGH! Hard decision is hard. I just learned you can hold menu for search on the gs2 so maybe I would be ok with that (I use search as my appdrawer/contact's)
Man so much anger and hostility on these forums, calm down guys. Both phones are great it just depends on what your priorities are.

I hope my posts were not taken as "angry". I am not angry in the least - I am just trying to present a rational view of the two phones. The "big" selling point for the SG2 seems to be "dual core" but I have not heard of a single app that requires a dual core processor. To me this sounds like a GREAT marketing bullet with very little real world application. In addition, dual core processors use more power, so battery life should be lower. Overall, I am hoping someone tells me some solid and rational point that is counter to my view if my view is incorrect. I still have 3 weeks to give the Infuse back to AT&T and purchase an SG2. I do prefer a larger screen (came from the Dell Streak 5") and a longer battery life though so I do not see how the SG2 is in anyway a "better" phone. Yes it has a dual core processor - no I can't see a specific list of things/applications that a dual core would give me today that a single core does not. My answer will likely be different in 6 months time, so I will re-evaluate to see if new apps etc come out that require dual core and purchase the best device when that time comes.
Thoughts?

deathpulse said:
I hope my posts were not taken as "angry". I am not angry in the least - I am just trying to present a rational view of the two phones. The "big" selling point for the SG2 seems to be "dual core" but I have not heard of a single app that requires a dual core processor. To me this sounds like a GREAT marketing bullet with very little real world application. In addition, dual core processors use more power, so battery life should be lower. Overall, I am hoping someone tells me some solid and rational point that is counter to my view if my view is incorrect. I still have 3 weeks to give the Infuse back to AT&T and purchase an SG2. I do prefer a larger screen (came from the Dell Streak 5") and a longer battery life though so I do not see how the SG2 is in anyway a "better" phone. Yes it has a dual core processor - no I can't see a specific list of things/applications that a dual core would give me today that a single core does not. My answer will likely be different in 6 months time, so I will re-evaluate to see if new apps etc come out that require dual core and purchase the best device when that time comes.
Thoughts?
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Galaxy S II:
Dual core cpu (vs. single on the Infuse, but supposedly still gets great battery life)
Faster GPU than the Infuse (but not by a massive amount)
1GB RAM (vs. ~640MB in the Infuse)
1080p video recording and playback (vs. 720p on the Infuse)
Gingerbread out of the box (vs. Froyo on the Infuse)
TouchWiz 4.0 (quite a few nice enhancements over TW 3.0 on the Infuse, and much sexier as well)

But it also has a smaller/less quality screen, correct? What is Touchwiz? I use ADW - does that work with Touchwiz? 1080p is no advantage for me either. Not sure why you would want this in a phone? hmm.... What does 1GB of RAM give me?

deathpulse said:
But it also has a smaller/less quality screen, correct? What is Touchwiz? I use ADW - does that work with Touchwiz? 1080p is no advantage for me either. Not sure why you would want this in a phone? hmm....
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Same quality screen, just slightly smaller, which will actually make it look sharper.
Pretty much everything that came on your phone is part of or influenced by the "TouchWiz UI". The launcher, theme, and all of the apps that aren't from the Market or from AT&T (Phone, Messaging, Browser, Gallery, Memo, etc., etc., etc.). So the theme and pretty much all of the software on the Galaxy S II has been tweaked/improved/changed compared to the Infuse. Samsung's latest Android customizations and apps if you will.

Im thinking i will use the infuse until next summer..by then im the res.will be better and maybe quad core and better batt.life and of course i now require a 4.5 screen

So, in your opinion, I should return the Infuse and get the SG2? Any thoughts on which platform will have more development for it? THis matters to me more than Gingerbread and Tocuhwiz...

Also forgot to mention:
Full HDMI mirroring (vs. limited HDMI output on the Infuse)
NFC (only on some Galaxy S II versions, like the ones in Korea)
16GB and 32GB versions (vs. just a 16GB version of the Infuse)
8GB MicroSD card included (vs. 2GB on the Infuse)

What is NFC? I already have a few 32gb micoSD cards - that is a wash. Does the SG2 have network media sharing like the Infuse?

deathpulse said:
So, in your opinion, I should return the Infuse and get the SG2? Any thoughts on which platform will have more development for it? THis matters to me more than Gingerbread and Tocuhwiz...
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Galaxy S II will have 50 times more development for it.
Don't get me wrong, the Infuse is a great phone, but it's no Galaxy S II. Whether you should get it or not depends on what you can afford. You could buy the Infuse for $200 on contract, sell it for $500, and then get a GSII for $750. Just depends on whether or not the features/improvements I mentioned are worth ~$250 extra to you. If you have money to throw around, definitely do it. If $250 sounds like a lot to you, maybe wait 2-3 months until the Galaxy S II officially comes to AT&T and you can get it cheaper. Or if you're perfectly content with your Infuse and none of the things I listed sound appealing, that's a fine choice too.

Money is really not the issue .

[Q] Keep Nexus S or take back for SGS2?

I bought a nexus S May 26. I left my pre for it. I was happy with my pre, but the battery life had become unbearable (4-6 hrs) and the sales person was good. My opening line to him was, "I don't want the Nexus S bc it is last gen tech No dual core no gyroscope." Anyways I was talked into getting it.
Now the rumors are running rampant with news of the Samsung Within coming in July! (I know this does not amount to anything) I called sprint and straight up asked the rep if sprint was getting a galaxy S 2. He put me on hold for a min while he asked he higher up when he came back he told me "I can neither confirm nor deny sprint getting a galaxy S 2"
The Nexus S is a great phone. Although I have been able to make it stutter while loading web pages (engadget joystiq). The battery life is good, but anything is good coming from the pre with an old battery.
So my prob is do I return my Nexus S in the next 2 days and wait for the SGS2 to come out? Or be happy with what I got?
I am open to ALL opinions.

I would just get the SGS2. The phone is more "future proof", and if you're going to be running custom roms on it anyway, then all the more so.
Only reason I'd go for NS over SGS2 at this time is the stock barebones android vs the bada UI which I don't quite like.
I got my NS in January cos it made sense then. 6 months later, I can't say I would do it again.

Agree that SGS2 will be pretty much future proof. However, any improvements in hardware ( dual core) will not create any noticeable effects on daily usage.
My best bet is to wait I guess. And furthermore no phones are future proof
Hummingbirds are pretty much for now.
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dplate07 said:
Agree that SGS2 will be pretty much future proof. However, any improvements in hardware ( dual core) will not create any noticeable effects on daily usage.
My best bet is to wait I guess. And furthermore no phones are future proof
Hummingbirds are pretty much for now.
Sent from my Nexus S
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Have you played with the SGS2? It just launched under Starhub yesterday right?
It's a pretty sweet device. IMO, the only thing the NS has over the SGSII is that we're gonna get ICS first. That's if you're gonna flash custom ROMs of course.
At this point, hardware-wise, SGSII is the best Android phone there is. It's got all the goodness of the NS but that dual core processor instead of a single.

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Have you played with the SGS2? It just launched under Starhub yesterday right?
It's a pretty sweet device. IMO, the only thing the NS has over the SGSII is that we're gonna get ICS first. That's if you're gonna flash custom ROMs of course.
At this point, hardware-wise, SGSII is the best Android phone there is. It's got all the goodness of the NS but that dual core processor instead of a single.
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Yes, but however I went to test the SGS2 I found that the software isn't as optimized as NS. And moreover, the ram management just isn't up to the mark.
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Ive owned both and will say that the sgs2 is hands down the fastest stock phone made right now. But the problem with both phones is that you will get bored with them very fast. If your like me that is.
Bottom line, if i were choosing between the 2 I'd take the sgs2 over the sns in a heart beat. The sgs2 is gaining dev attention fast and that will make it more fun.
Just my opinion.
Sent from my Transformer TF101