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Nexus S questions

Trying to weigh my options with cell service. AT&T has been bothering me lately with dropped calls, down service etc. Really looking for a new phone (currently testing the Atrix).
I have seen some people claiming they got a 2700+ on Quadrant with this phone... is this true? How do live wallpapers run on this phone? I love having the latest and greatest software, so the Atrix might not be the best choice.
Anyone have both phones to give a comparison etc? Any comments in regards to T-Mobile service?
Thanks!

The Atrix, or any of the dual core phones coming, will most likely blow the Nexus S out of the water in terms of perfrmance, especially when they have an OS buiot to work with the two cores. That being said, this thing is flying with the latest update, at least for me. The graphics are just as good as any of the other Galaxy S phones, which aren't slouches in any way. Coming from AT&T, I will say that while AT&T has more penetration in terms of 3G where I live, T-Mobile has way better speeds, I've been up to 7mbs in places close to where I live. Then again, I go anywhere coastal and I have to live on Edge while I'm down there. So just depends on your area and who's better in terms of network.

Never used AT&T so I wouldn't know but I never really have any compliants with T-Mobile. 2700+ Quadrant, yeah its possible. Quadrant benchmarks (or benchmarks) don't really mean anything to be honest.
Live Wallpapers run fine, although I don't use it.
With a Google Experience phone, you'll always have the latest updates including kernels open sourced as soon as possible.
And to be honest, the Atrix and all those other dual core phones are most likely being crippled by the custom Android skin. So it wouldn't be worth it if you want the best possible experience as a enthusiast.

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The Atrix, or any of the dual core phones coming, will most likely blow the Nexus S out of the water in terms of perfrmance, especially when they have an OS buiot to work with the two cores. That being said, this thing is flying with the latest update, at least for me. The graphics are just as good as any of the other Galaxy S phones, which aren't slouches in any way. Coming from AT&T, I will say that while AT&T has more penetration in terms of 3G where I live, T-Mobile has way better speeds, I've been up to 7mbs in places close to where I live. Then again, I go anywhere coastal and I have to live on Edge while I'm down there. So just depends on your area and who's better in terms of network.
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From this video the Atrix doesnt look like it blew the Nexus S out of anything.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm3BJ2vKpGM

@charlieb620, thanks for the link for that video, that was a really good comparision. I guess that shows that there really is a difference between Froyo and Gingerbread. I'm not knocking the Nexus in any way but when the Atrix and the rest of the Duals get better software, they will be amazing. I am surprised by the screen of the Atrix though.

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@charlieb620, thanks for the link for that video, that was a really good comparision. I guess that shows that there really is a difference between Froyo and Gingerbread. I'm not knocking the Nexus in any way but when the Atrix and the rest of the Duals get better software, they will be amazing. I am surprised by the screen of the Atrix though.
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yeah they will be amazing, but i have alot of people talking down on my Nexus since the atrix came out but every test i ran and compared i won. but i guess they when when it comes to having dual core

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@charlieb620, thanks for the link for that video, that was a really good comparision. I guess that shows that there really is a difference between Froyo and Gingerbread. I'm not knocking the Nexus in any way but when the Atrix and the rest of the Duals get better software, they will be amazing. I am surprised by the screen of the Atrix though.
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yeah they will be amazing, but i have alot of people talking down on my Nexus since the atrix came out but every test i ran and compared i won. but i guess they when when it comes to having dual core
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The truth is that until those dual core phones have Honeycomb or Ice Cream they will not perform as well as single core phones optimized for modern OS' like Gingerbread. Hell, they'll probably start to do a bit better once they have Gingerbread but it still won't beat the Nexus S.

I do find it funny that the Nexus S was supposed to have a dual core but that got axed because Gingerbread doesn't "support" dual core processors, yet all these dual core phones are shipping with Froyo. I guess that for at least a year, we can take solace in the fact that we own one of the better Android devices for the time being.

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I do find it funny that the Nexus S was supposed to have a dual core but that got axed because Gingerbread doesn't "support" dual core processors, yet all these dual core phones are shipping with Froyo. I guess that for at least a year, we can take solace in the fact that we own one of the better Android devices for the time being.
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Thats sort of the idea. I mean, the same could be said of the Nexus One; it was the best phone when it came out but not long after bigger, better, faster phones came out. Sure, when dual core phones get future iterations of Android we'll be behind the curve but by that point there will be a new Nexus at which point I'll have sold my Nexus S for the Nexus New

dual core worth the wait?

My Nexus one just broke and I thought about just getting the Nexus S. However, I've been told to get a crappy phone and wait until the dual cores hit full swing. I was also told that once dual cores are the standard that Google and other manufacturers will make their OS predominately multi-threaded based.
I've been advised to get the LG Optimus now or getting something crappy like the Motorola spice and wait for the dual core.

better wait a little for better

Depends on what you need and want really.
If you like endless fun with rooting, etc. Nexus S for sure.
Otherwise, jump on the dual core train.

I rooted the N1 and had fun putting different ROMs. However, when things got busy I found it to be a low priority. I honestly want a stable smartphone. One that doens't require constant restarting, etc...

Dual-core is nice and zippy but I don't see a big difference between it and a premium 1Ghz single core phone. I am very happy with the MT4G at the moment and have had it since Day 1. I will be waiting for Kai-El, but the SGSII is tempting if it does indeed come to tmobile. I would suggest you to save money and find a good deal on the xda marketplace for a single core phone then upgrade to Kai-El when it comes out. Good luck! Hope I helped.

The way I see it, there's a couple options you can go with.
1) Wait and see. This option is the most boring, but possibly has the most potential. However, I wouldn't recommend it-- unless you're on a regional carrier or Sprint, there's going to be a dual-core option for you immediately (and even then, that's going to change in a matter of days for the latter).
2) Buy an older, cheaper, less capable smartphone off-contract to keep yourself amused, then sign up for a dual-core phone when one strikes your fancy. This isn't a bad idea-- get an old phone that developers have already cracked wide open, get your fill of mods and custom roms, then switch to the dual-core phone when you feel performance is no longer up to snuff. Right now, dual-core isn't imperative for a silky-smooth user experience, but you damn well know it will be going into the future. Don't sign a contract for a phone with one core if you feel like you need to get the most out of the UI for the majority of that two-year period.
3) Take the plunge right away. Unless you're on Verizon like me, there shouldn't be much of a dilemma with dual-core phones. The Sensation 4G is nothing short of a triumph, the Evo 3D is both novel and amusing, and the Atrix 4G is gonna be even better than it already is once it gets Gingerbread and dumps the old MotoBlur. The trick with Verizon is that its only dual-core phone right now is the Droid X2, which lacks LTE. Still, that's what I bought, and I feel confident with the purchase. It's gonna be ready for whatever software's thrown at it over the next year or two.

imho, since you're interested in dual core, better wait a bit. See what will be announced till the end of year or begining 2012.
In the meantime, could grab a cheap lg optimus one which still has plenty juice left in it for many months to come and customize the sh1t out of it with plenty roms and kernels and the upcoming update to gb.
This way you'll have something to tincker with while standing by on the safe side to see what plans the companies have on dual core

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You are not going to see difference between single and dual core.
All the games I play run max fps even in single core.
Also you dont need dual core to browse website.
Really depends on what you want(battery life, ram, screen size, screen type).
I own desire hd and galaxy s II now.
Played with galaxy S, atrix, g2x.
I prefer desire hd over all because of screen size and mod.

Do you love your phone?

Hey guys just trying to decide on a phone I was wondering if the infuse is the phone for me any advice? Do you guys like it? If you could get a different one what would you get? Thanks
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Honestly, at this point wait for the SGSII. The phone come out at the end of the month.

I couldn't be much happier with my Infuse. It's a great phone. However, the SGSII will be coming out soon, so you have a tricky decision to make.
The advantages the Infuse has are a 4.5" screen as opposed to the 4.3" screen on the SGSII. Also, you can walk into a store tomorrow and get it.
The advantages of the SGSII are it's dual core processor, and the fact that it will likely have an insanely huge development community.
Both phones have a 1.2 GHz processor, but the dual core in the SGSII will definitely give it an edge. However, I don't have any lag on my infuse whatsoever, so that is kind of negligible to me.
Also, even though the development community for the Infuse will be smaller in the long run, it isn't bad by any means.
It's really a win-win with either choice in my eyes, as right now I would choose my Infuse over anything on the market right now.
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welchertc said:
I couldn't be much happier with my Infuse. It's a great phone. However, the SGSII will be coming out soon, so you have a tricky decision to make.
The advantages the Infuse has are a 4.5" screen as opposed to the 4.3" screen on the SGSII. Also, you can walk into a store tomorrow and get it.
The advantages of the SGSII are it's dual core processor, and the fact that it will likely have an insanely huge development community.
Both phones have a 1.2 GHz processor, but the dual core in the SGSII will definitely give it an edge. However, I don't have any lag on my infuse whatsoever, so that is kind of negligible to me.
Also, even though the development community for the Infuse will be smaller in the long run, it isn't bad by any means.
It's really a win-win with either choice in my eyes, as right now I would choose my Infuse over anything on the market right now.
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I wonder if dual core will make a "real world" difference? When multi-core CPU's for Desktop and Laptop PC's came out they made little difference until there were applications that supported them. It took a number of years for that to happen for other than high end business products.
Is more hype then fact?

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I wonder if dual core will make a "real world" difference? When multi-core CPU's for Desktop and Laptop PC's came out they made little difference until there were applications that supported them. It took a number of years for that to happen for other than high end business products.
Is more hype then fact?
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A easier way to make money with a wow factor.
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Best phone I have ever owned. I love it. Fast, great battery life, and the screen is just simply amazing.
The dev section here sucks, g2g and the rest of the dev's for this phone work hard and create some great stuff but there are far too many arrogant and whiney users constantly putting down their work and crying like little girls because they don't understand how to follow directions or realize that roms are a work in progress. Soon the SII will come out and most of them will leave and this section will get a lot more sane and the SII section is going to go to hell.

MisterEdF said:
I wonder if dual core will make a "real world" difference? When multi-core CPU's for Desktop and Laptop PC's came out they made little difference until there were applications that supported them. It took a number of years for that to happen for other than high end business products.
Is more hype then fact?
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dual core always makes a difference, it just doesnt make a 100% difference. there are times it might eliminate all lag making it seem like a world of difference, other times it can make zero difference. the big advantage is when background services are running or on a pc when you have multiple windows open and running different applications. but now pc applications are multi-threaded taking more advantage even when multi tasking is at a minimum.
also remember the dual core phones have faster ram and are arm cortex a9 processors not a8. there may be some new hardware level advancements that can be taken advantage of in the next android releases.
as far as graphics processing goes we have a good gpu and are comparable to a tegra in raw capabilities. though the benchmarks often give the tegra an advantage in speed i find the renderings to look better on the samsung. im not saying anything one way or another. the infuse can accomplish anything a dual core can as far as far as video playback and graphics but the dual core phones have there merit. look at youtube vids side by side of a sgs2 web browsing against other devices. it powers through flash a lot faster than anything else i have seen.

Dani897 said:
dual core always makes a difference, it just doesnt make a 100% difference. there are times it might eliminate all lag making it seem like a world of difference, other times it can make zero difference. the big advantage is when background services are running or on a pc when you have multiple windows open and running different applications. but now pc applications are multi-threaded taking more advantage even when multi tasking is at a minimum.
also remember the dual core phones have faster ram and are arm cortex a9 processors not a8. there may be some new hardware level advancements that can be taken advantage of in the next android releases.
as far as graphics processing goes we have a good gpu and are comparable to a tegra in raw capabilities. though the benchmarks often give the tegra an advantage in speed i find the renderings to look better on the samsung. im not saying anything one way or another. the infuse can accomplish anything a dual core can as far as far as video playback and graphics but the dual core phones have there merit. look at youtube vids side by side of a sgs2 web browsing against other devices. it powers through flash a lot faster than anything else i have seen.
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I, like MrEdf (I'm Mr. Ed 2 lol) don't see much of a difference when using todays line up of applications when it comes to single vs dual...
the ram is supposed to be better but we have no devices utilizing that to test with right now...so it is just speculation.
take the dual core phones out now and run them through real world scenarios side by side with an overclocked android device be it hummingbird or snapdragon and look for a difference....granted the benchmark will be better on the dual core and it truly is more powerful, there isn't much developed to at this point that will utilize it.
what I hope to see is better multitasking. i get completely scattered going back and forth between apps and my phone gets all pissed off about it.
I've mentioned in a few other threads my plans...I'll test several devices (atrix is already out of the picture) like the lg thrill, the gs2 and my infuse, prolly throw our inspire into the tests just for fun... in the end I will use the one I like the most
I love this phone....right now. ask me again in a month lol

you tube
here we go.
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assuming infuse on froyo whereas s2 on gingerbread.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hqo5Rmx3WtA
if difference is fraction of a second then i think one can live with it.
at the end of the day both are just phones and for more complicated work we have laptops and netbooks or tablets.

rohit3192 said:
here we go.
(video not uploaded by me)
assuming infuse on froyo whereas s2 on gingerbread.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hqo5Rmx3WtA
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He has some excellent comparison videos...
keep in mind that is the euro s2 as well..who knows what variation we end up with in the US

I love this phone, the devs are awesome and their product is top notch. I have yet to find a rom our kernel that I wouldn't run. Everything is good and its just a matter of preference and a few specific features. The community its great, aside from a few bad apples, but generally they are very helpful and informative.
I too was looking at the sgII but needed a new phone and picked up the infuse, I have no regrets, plus the scuttlebutt if that the attain (att version of sgII) will have a physical keyboard.
All in all, infuse is they best phone I've ever owned and can easily see it keeping me happy for a long time.
Infused with gingerbread **** thanks GTG465X

Agree with many people here. Wait for the SGSII. Don't get me wrong, the Infuse is a great phone, but unless the SGSII is over $200 on contract, I would just wait for it
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The SGSII is certainly the phone to beat, however be aware that it has a smaller battery than the Infuse and with the dual core processor it's battery life is not great. Also rumor has it that AT&T's version will have a slide-out keyboard (confirmed by a friend of mine who works at an AT&T store). If that's the case I would have no interest in the phone because the keyboard will make it thicker. In any case you can get an Infuse and have 30 days to try it out before needing to return it. Samsung is having their release event later this month so you'd still be inside the return window if they announce something your interested in. I find the 1.2Ghz processor in the Infuse to be outstanding and don't find any speed complaints, in fact I'd trade better battery life for single core versus dual core. And our Infuse has the largest Super AMOLED Plus screen.

What am I missing - Galaxy SII

I don't get what I am so suppose to be in love with when it comes to the SII vs Infuse 4g.
Now I am strictly comparing the US Specced SII (european I suppose as well since it is the same) vs Infuse 4g.
The infuse has a bigger screen and bigger battery.
The S2 has dual core and a small battery and smaller screen.
So I am going to get dual core eating monster with a smaller battery? Battery life on the Infuse is OK, good, but nothing crazy. The S2 must be awful?
Now if we were getting the 1.5ghz dual core with some form of LTE I could see a little more attraction.
personally though I'll be olding off for something better.

Dual core
1 gig of ram
It's only slightly smaller - actually feels better in your hand.
Gingerbread 2.3.4 from the carrier
Better GPS lock
I'm still wondering if it has the chip needed for voodoo sound though...

It's not a huge difference but you get gingerbread out the box, touchwiz 4.0, dual core, 1080p recording, hdmi(infuse as well), thx soluscado totally slipped my mind, etc. The infuse is ok but i'm probably getting rid of mine. The checkered loading is driving me crazy.

I agree with the OP. The dual core proc seems like a "meh" addition, especially considering the battery trade-off. I just don't use TouchWiz anyway, so that's irrelevant. The bigger screen is a BIG deal to me, and any video I take with my phone is displayed on my phone, so 1080p recording is irrelevant. I'm pretty sure you get HDMI out on the Infuse as well, but I have no use for that either. And the Gingerbread enhancements are so minor (to me) that I really couldn't care less whether it's available OOB or not.

crawlgsx said:
I don't get what I am so suppose to be in love with when it comes to the SII vs Infuse 4g.
Now I am strictly comparing the US Specced SII (european I suppose as well since it is the same) vs Infuse 4g.
The infuse has a bigger screen and bigger battery.
The S2 has dual core and a small battery and smaller screen.
So I am going to get dual core eating monster with a smaller battery? Battery life on the Infuse is OK, good, but nothing crazy. The S2 must be awful?
Now if we were getting the 1.5ghz dual core with some form of LTE I could see a little more attraction.
personally though I'll be olding off for something better.
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What you said.

Yea no point. I'll stick with my infuse until samsung releases an lte phone on att like ours or the s2. Or wait for googles next phone and hope that is lte as well.
Dual core is not enough reason to upgrade, I want real 4g speeds.
Infuse running Serendipity VII

If the GPS chip is better than that of the infuse then I'm switching. I use the GPS more than anything else on the phone and that is a deal breaker for me. If the infuse had a perfect working GPS, I'd take it over the s2 anyday.
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The battery life on the sgs2 i don't thinks all that bad. The battery.2 inch screen difference i hardly notice, gb is awesome. Mines yet to show any sign of lag at all. I haven't even touched the infuse since i got the sgs2. Once gb comes out ill use it. Until then though ill stick with gb and my dual core .
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The battery life on the sgs2 i don't thinks all that bad. The battery.2 inch screen difference i hardly notice, gb is awesome. Mines yet to show any sign of lag at all. I haven't even touched the infuse since i got the sgs2. Once gb comes out ill use it. Until then though ill stick with gb and my dual core .
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Lol but auto text on it is a total fail.... Hopefully you guys understand.
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I know this topic has come up a few times in the month or so I've owned my infuse and watched these forums, and I'm sure I'm not the only one wondering if it's worth the switch to the AT&T-branded SGSII. Honestly the thing I'd have wanted most from the European SGSII was the physical Home button, but that didn't make it over here (needs more patent litigation).
I do agree that the .2" off the screen is actually a bonus; 4.3" screens feel a lot nicer when using to chat--somehow the AT&T SGSII is more than .2" off in both dimensions (4.96" x 2.60" vs. 5.2" x 2.8" according to Samsung). Still, a fifth of an inch either way isn't a deal-breaker for me either way.
The dual core SGSII processor is obviously the big difference, and I have yet to see anyone post a compelling, non-anecdotal reason to have a second core on a phone. I don't know many people who have felt their Infuse was insufficiently responsive, and no game I've run has had any noticeable lag on the Infuse, though my experience is hardly extensive.
Does anyone know how much RAM the AT&T SGSII has? If it had the full gig that the Euro version has, that'd also be a nice bonus, as I have managed to fill up the sub-half-gig that the Infuse has available.
The last feature I think deserves mention is NFC, which the ATT SGSII does have, reportedly. Not that I really expect to be paying by NFC any time soon, but what are we if not nerds who want more features on our phones?

teiglin said:
I know this topic has come up a few times in the month or so I've owned my infuse and watched these forums, and I'm sure I'm not the only one wondering if it's worth the switch to the AT&T-branded SGSII. Honestly the thing I'd have wanted most from the European SGSII was the physical Home button, but that didn't make it over here (needs more patent litigation).
I do agree that the .2" off the screen is actually a bonus; 4.3" screens feel a lot nicer when using to chat--somehow the AT&T SGSII is more than .2" off in both dimensions (4.96" x 2.60" vs. 5.2" x 2.8" according to Samsung). Still, a fifth of an inch either way isn't a deal-breaker for me either way.
The dual core SGSII processor is obviously the big difference, and I have yet to see anyone post a compelling, non-anecdotal reason to have a second core on a phone. I don't know many people who have felt their Infuse was insufficiently responsive, and no game I've run has had any noticeable lag on the Infuse, though my experience is hardly extensive.
Does anyone know how much RAM the AT&T SGSII has? If it had the full gig that the Euro version has, that'd also be a nice bonus, as I have managed to fill up the sub-half-gig that the Infuse has available.
The last feature I think deserves mention is NFC, which the ATT SGSII does have, reportedly. Not that I really expect to be paying by NFC any time soon, but what are we if not nerds who want more features on our phones?
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looks like 512 ram NOT 100% sure though

I wouldn't bet on better GPS lock
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dajeoo said:
I wouldn't bet on better GPS lock
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Mine is def a netter lock then on my infuse.
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There isn't a single thing that the Infuse beats the SGS II in. It ties in a few places like camera, but that's it. The SGS II is the best Android phone in existence, and the Infuse probably wouldn't have even been the best of 2010.

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It's 1GB of RAM total, and like 800 MB for the user.

MikeyMike01 said:
It's 1GB of RAM total, and like 800 MB for the user.
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If its anything like the Euro version it has 839mb ram for the user.
And I agree Mikey it is probably the best Android phone out there!

Do we know if its ddr2 ram? What about the i/o tech? That LG is dual something or other.
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There isn't a single thing that the Infuse beats the SGS II in. It ties in a few places like camera, but that's it. The SGS II is the best Android phone in existence, and the Infuse probably wouldn't have even been the best of 2010.
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I don't think i can agree with that. I havent yet used one, but i cam say that having the largest and brightest display on the market is a huge plus for me. Regardless of whether it may seem like a better deal, i feel that the sgs2 is basically a smaller infuse. It looks the same and does all the same things. Really can't count gb as a plus either since we already have it on the infuse and an official version by the time the sgs2 is readily available to most. I can't see any advantage to 1080p either since it will just eat up more of that inferior battery. Just my 2 cents.
Edit: on top of all that, i don't know why u said 2010? you meant 2011? even if that was so i find that hard tp believe also. Considering that feature for feature, the Infuse was the best overall android device you could buy here in the U.S. when it was released. That said, the only real reason the Infuse hasn't out sold the competition is the lack of hype behind it and a very quiet release by Samsung. Quite unlike the sgs2 which is released first in their most local market. It obviously is pointed towards the more general technophile audience. The infuse i feel was directed towards the huge media phone freaks.
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I don't think i can agree with that. I havent yet used one, but i cam say that having the largest and brightest display on the market is a huge plus for me. Regardless of whether it may seem like a better deal, i feel that the sgs2 is basically a smaller infuse. It looks the same and does all the same things. Really can't count gb as a plus either since we already have it on the infuse and an official version by the time the sgs2 is readily available to most. I can't see any advantage to 1080p either since it will just eat up more of that inferior battery. Just my 2 cents.
Edit: on top of all that, i don't know why u said 2010? you meant 2011? even if that was so i find that hard tp believe also. Considering that feature for feature, the Infuse was the best overall android device you could buy here in the U.S. when it was released. That said, the only real reason the Infuse hasn't out sold the competition is the lack of hype behind it and a very quiet release by Samsung. Quite unlike the sgs2 which is released first in their most local market. It obviously is pointed towards the more general technophile audience. The infuse i feel was directed towards the huge media phone freaks.
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Report back after you have held and used one!
you will see the difference for sure
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Edit: on top of all that, i don't know why u said 2010?
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I said 2010 on purpose. That's where single core Froyo phones belong.

G2x > Galaxy Nexus

Here is why I love my G2x OVER the Galaxy Nexus
1) I have this phone on a two year contract
2) HDMI Port, as small as it is, I don't want to use a dongle or any crap thing like that to hook up my phone as an hdmi output
2) Micro SD Card. They didn't mention it....and I wouldn't be surprised if Samsung left this out.....such as the Galaxy Tab 10.1
3) 8MP Camera, the camera on the G2x is SOLID. If LG could just get their as*es in gear and get this working fully on a new Ice Cream Sandwich rom.
4) The Nexus is better only because of the Super AMOLED and Ice Cream Sandwich. I personally can live without the AMOLED and I know for a fact if LG doesn't update to Ice Cream Sandwich that the Awesome Devs here will.
First person that has a full working ICS rom for the G2x I am donating too, and I would suggest others do as well, This is how we keep the G2x on top.
The G2x is a BEAST.....And I love that I picked this phone.
Thanks to all the support from the Devs, can't wait to see the wicked work you guys put into this next generation of Android.
If LG was smart they would get a beta test of Ice Cream Sandwich out on this phone like yesterday. This phone can take on the NExUS
What's all of your thoughts? Still glad you have the G2x? Think it's better than the Nexus?
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Here is why I love my G2x OVER the Galaxy Nexus
1) I have this phone on a two year contract
2) HDMI Port, as small as it is, I don't want to use a dongle or any crap thing like that to hook up my phone as an hdmi output
2) Micro SD Card. They didn't mention it....and I wouldn't be surprised if Samsung left this out.....such as the Galaxy Tab 10.1
3) 8MP Camera, the camera on the G2x is SOLID. If LG could just get their as*es in gear and get this working fully on a new Ice Cream Sandwich rom.
4) The Nexus is better only because of the Super AMOLED and Ice Cream Sandwich. I personally can live without the AMOLED and I know for a fact if LG doesn't update to Ice Cream Sandwich that the Awesome Devs here will.
First person that has a full working ICS rom for the G2x I am donating too, and I would suggest others do as well, This is how we keep the G2x on top.
The G2x is a BEAST.....And I love that I picked this phone.
Thanks to all the support from the Devs, can't wait to see the wicked work you guys put into this next generation of Android.
If LG was smart they would get a beta test of Ice Cream Sandwich out on this phone like yesterday. This phone can take on the NExUS
What's all of your thoughts? Still glad you have the G2x? Think it's better than the Nexus?
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Your reasoning is slightly retarded
1- you should love when ur not on contract...keeps options open.
2- really? 16-32 gb is plenty especially with cloud based services on the horizon
3-wow....samsung makes some of the best cameras on mobiles. MP don't determine everything...
4- amoled....isp close enough for me.....but without source ICS might be tough
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Smallsmx3 said:
Your reasoning is slightly retarded
1- you should love when ur not on contract...keeps options open.
2- really? 16-32 gb is plenty especially with cloud based services on the horizon
3-wow....samsung makes some of the best cameras on mobiles. MP don't determine everything...
4- amoled....isp close enough for me.....but without source ICS might be tough
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32gb is less than my g2x. i have a 100GB music collection and i'd like to take as much with me as possible; g2x has onboard storage (4GB? 8GB?) on top of my 32GB card. 8GB makes a huge difference, especially when there will likely be no expandable memory.
true, MP doesn't mean everything. but isn't this very similar, if not basically the same camera as the nexus s? even if the camera performs well, i think it's a little cheap to not give it a 3MP bump to 8MP.

Cool 100gb of music.....if your not using spotify to stream amd trying to put 100gb of mudic on a mobile your an idiot.....true the bump in the cam would be nice...but if they had to squeeze a smaller sensor to pack in all the other goodies then ill take it...
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Smallsmx3 said:
Cool 100gb of music.....if your not using spotify to stream amd trying to put 100gb of mudic on a mobile your an idiot.....true the bump in the cam would be nice...but if they had to squeeze a smaller sensor to pack in all the other goodies then ill take it...
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Streaming and cloud services are great...
Except every US carrier except Sprint limits your data usage and Sprint quite possibly is going to as well.

Smallsmx3 said:
Cool 100gb of music.....if your not using spotify to stream amd trying to put 100gb of mudic on a mobile your an idiot.....true the bump in the cam would be nice...but if they had to squeeze a smaller sensor to pack in all the other goodies then ill take it...
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if you're going to try to call me an idiot, please do so with proper grammar. it's a bit hard to take you seriously when you can't even present yourself intelligibly.
clearly, i don't put 100GB of music on my mobile; it was merely an example. the GN skimped on storage, plain and simple. the iPhone gets a lot of flack for being slightly behind the technological curve but even now, it's offered in 64GB. why is this not the same? a bit lacking if you ask me. android phones have come out and absolutely destroyed the iPhone's specifications. i expected a lot more from google and samsung if this was truly going to be a revolutionary phone. it's clearly not.
also, an 8MP sensor is barely larger than a 5MP sensor; that's far from a reasonable excuse for not including it, especially considering how huge the handset is. with EU prices announced, the intention clearly wasn't to make the smartphone cheap. this is the new flagship device for the entire android platform- i can't be alone in being disappointed.

ericalanMICHAEL said:
if you're going to try to call me an idiot, please do so with proper grammar. it's a bit hard to take you seriously when you can't even present yourself intelligibly.
clearly, i don't put 100GB of music on my mobile; it was merely an example. the GN skimped on storage, plain and simple. the iPhone gets a lot of flack for being slightly behind the technological curve but even now, it's offered in 64GB. why is this not the same? a bit lacking if you ask me. android phones have come out and absolutely destroyed the iPhone's specifications. i expected a lot more from google and samsung if this was truly going to be a revolutionary phone. it's clearly not.
also, an 8MP sensor is barely larger than a 5MP sensor; that's far from a reasonable excuse for not including it, especially considering how huge the handset is. with EU prices announced, the intention clearly wasn't to make the smartphone cheap. this is the new flagship device for the entire android platform- i can't be alone in being disappointed.
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IMO, the Nexus S and the Galaxy Nexus were intentionally gimped by Samsung in order to sell their own, Touchwiz based handsets instead.

Smallsmx3 said:
Your reasoning is slightly retarded
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+1. IMO your main reason is money. Cos clearly, the next Nexus will probably be thee best phone in the market once its released. I bet if you had the money to buy the Galaxy Nexus you wouldn't say that about the G2x.
And yes i do love my G2X but Technology is way too fast to keep up with...so there will always be better phones than our beloved G2X.

JaiaV said:
Except every US carrier except Sprint limits your data usage and Sprint quite possibly is going to as well.
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I doubt that, unlimited data is pretty much their only selling point at the moment.
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Don't u all think the nexus should have beafier hardware? To me, I think the prime isn't any better than the sg2!
I was hoping for something strong enough to really slap apples iPhone 4s out but we will see.
As far as this g2x versus a prime?
Prime I would love to have cuz its faster and more than likely gonna get all the updates in the word
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wbales said:
Here is why I love my G2x OVER the Galaxy Nexus
1) I have this phone on a two year contract I buy off contract
2) HDMI Port, as small as it is, I don't want to use a dongle or any crap thing like that to hook up my phone as an hdmi output HDMI port on my G2x feels like it's gonna break off you have to shove the plug in so hard, and slight movement causes it to cut out. Neither T-Mobile or LG will do anything...but HDMI out is great on other phones
2) Micro SD Card. They didn't mention it....and I wouldn't be surprised if Samsung left this out.....such as the Galaxy Tab 10.1 I've never added storage beyond an 8gb card...most of my streaming is on wi-fi, and if data use is really that big a deal I can tether to my Sprint lines...at this point the cloud is where it's at
3) 8MP Camera, the camera on the G2x is SOLID. If LG could just get their as*es in gear and get this working fully on a new Ice Cream Sandwich rom. G2x camera is great, but if the sensor is even higher quality on the GN I can deal with a MP drop...
4) The Nexus is better only because of the Super AMOLED and Ice Cream Sandwich. I personally can live without the AMOLED and I know for a fact if LG doesn't update to Ice Cream Sandwich that the Awesome Devs here will. 1280x720 4.6" SAMOLED....uhhhh....no phone will even compare after seeing that screen. I bought a GS2 for pretty much the screen alone, and this is even better. 480x800 is annoying after using qHD, after using GN it will be going from a CinemaDisplay to a netbook. ICS looks amazing
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Gotta say, i dont agree. GN is a worthy upgrade based on the 4.6" 1280x720 curved screen alone. But besides that...lack of physical buttons will rock, NFC will be cool in the future, it's thin and big at the same time...honestly, what more could you want? This pretty much epitomizes the current generation of phones. I can't wait to get mine.

jetbruceli said:
Don't u all think the nexus should have beafier hardware? To me, I think the prime isn't any better than the sg2!
I was hoping for something strong enough to really slap apples iPhone 4s out but we will see.
As far as this g2x versus a prime?
Prime I would love to have cuz its faster and more than likely gonna get all the updates in the word
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The galaxy nexus is gonna **** on everything, specs don't really mean alot to me real world testing does. Everyone said the same thing about the Nexus S when it came out because it wasn't dual core but it can hold its own against almost any phone out. The specs on the galaxy Nexus are good they go together like the Omap processor is mainly because of the HD screen since omap has IV3. watch how many ppl get the Nexus when it drops, most ppl are getting iPhones so they can resell them cuz ppl will pay so much not cuz its a great phone IMO
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JaiaV said:
IMO, the Nexus S and the Galaxy Nexus were intentionally gimped by Samsung in order to sell their own, Touchwiz based handsets instead.
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Absolutley they did, why wouldn't they use their in house superior Exynos and Mali GPU? They want to push their own brand and Google accepted it. Google is to blame for that not Samsung.

It's cool that you're content with the G2x as I am. But in no way is this better than the GN. The 1280x720 is now native on Android on ICS. So no matter what devs can do, ICS will never be native on this phone. Plus it's super amoled HD... G2x can't touch that. And the camera ain't even close, the GN takes amazing pictures and video, plus that instant zero shutter lag is pretty awesome.
I love the G2x as much as you do. But it's not even in the same league as the GN.
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mackster248 said:
It's cool that you're content with the G2x as I am. But in no way is this better than the GN. The 1280x720 is now native on Android on ICS. So no matter what devs can do, ICS will never be native on this phone. Plus it's super amoled HD... G2x can't touch that. And the camera ain't even close, the GN takes amazing pictures and video, plus that instant zero shutter lag is pretty awesome.
I love the G2x as much as you do. But it's not even in the same league as the GN.
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agreed. the g2x is solid, even performs better than other dual-core 1.0ghz+ phones (benchmark 200+ higher than my brothers rooted sensation at 1.2). i think people are just displeased with the announcement. some serious upgrades, yes (ICS, ridiculous screen, etc) but some features are just lacking. it was the same with the nexus s (single core, no notification light, etc). if you're paying for a GN, i'm sure you understand the piece of technology you're getting your hands on; you're willing to pay for every feature that they're willing to put into the device. if google and samsung are concerned about overpricing the handset, they should be aware that their demographic for this device is specific and that demographic is willing to pay.
i'm selling my g2x and buying a GSII or GN. it's still an amazing device, just less of a powerhouse than some people thought.

Wow you all are aware that after the release of this phone, there is gonna be a butt load of better phones to follow really soon. I mean nvidia had to wait for this phone to be released so they can start pushing tegra 3 devices.
I am sure by Christmas we will have quad core phones available and all who ran out and bought this GN or GS2 will be upset.
I got this g2x for like 200 on Amazon no contract.
I have had the option for a new phone for awhile but why would I when this phone rocks?
Besides my next device is the Vita!
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True, but those better devices won't be Nexus devices. That is the big difference. After using multiple dual core processors including Tegra 2, I don't think I want any part of Tegra 3.
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AdamHart612 said:
True, but those better devices won't be Nexus devices. That is the big difference. After using multiple dual core processors including Tegra 2, I don't think I want any part of Tegra 3.
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what do you dislike about the tegra 2? i've never used any other dual cores.

jetbruceli said:
Wow you all are aware that after the release of this phone, there is gonna be a butt load of better phones to follow really soon. I mean nvidia had to wait for this phone to be released so they can start pushing tegra 3 devices.
I am sure by Christmas we will have quad core phones available and all who ran out and bought this GN or GS2 will be upset.
I got this g2x for like 200 on Amazon no contract.
I have had the option for a new phone for awhile but why would I when this phone rocks?
Besides my next device is the Vita!
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Yeah but it's a Nexus man. Same thing with the Nexus S, its hardware got eclipsed in a couple of months when the Atrix came out and the Nexus S was still smoother. In real world applications the Nexus S has been the smoothest phone up until probably the Bionic came out, everything else was either bogged down by Sense 3.0 or just plain out laggy like the Atrix. If we're talking out of the box, and with no custom ROM's, the Nexus line is always the smoothest and fastest, and the direct support from Google is what you're paying for.

Honestly I'm disappointed in the new hardware specs too. I wanted it to blow the iPhone 4S out of the water so I could show everyone that Android is truly superior. Now I have to rely on showing them pictures of ICS. And unfortunately most of them are too stupid to understand camera app settings, so that'll be of little help!
Should've gotten like a quad-core, 16mp camera, 2gb ram, hdmi port, 1080p screen, 320gb internal memory, and much more.
*If you don't sense the sarcasm, i'll put this as a disclaimer so I don't get trolled*