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Ok we root our Infuse 4g now what?

I'm making this topic to help guys who switch from iPhone and get the Infuse 4g, Okay easily they can follow the routing process, after that the big question is now what?
Please if anyone have suggestion or any Apps that you think will make new rooters enjoy the infuse 4g do post.
My 1st suggestion is SetCpu app,
This can adjust your processors speed and even make it run faster from 1.2ghz to 1.4ghz+, they called this overclocking.
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First app after root should be Titanium Backup, donate version.

yea, thats right, then its easy restore.
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next comes root explorer

Then adfree

Noob question here. I'm rooted and downloaded setcpu. How do I move the cursor past the 1.2 mark?
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cmjkxa said:
Noob question here. I'm rooted and downloaded setcpu. How do I move the cursor past the 1.2 mark?
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need a different cpu driver. that means either a kernel module or an overclock kernel. unfortunately there is basically no kernel dev going on for thins phone that i know of and overclock is not yet an option. it will be soon but dont expect much. many hummingbird chips cant reach speeds any faster than 1.3ghz, though theinfuse may have a cpu that tests beter than the galaxy s to support the higher stock clock speed. a few hummingbirds can go to 1.6ghz so if you get lucky it can be very very fast. just luck of the draw though. i an more interested in a gingerbread port however. the market and browser and overall feeling of the phone on 2.3.3 is more significant than overclocking and safer as well.

the processor in the infuse is not the same generation as what you would find in something like the captivate. like the different generations of the snapdragon, performance and specifications are pretty much completely different. ill expect some high cpu values to come when we get a new kernel.

Overclocking phones is stupid. It does little more than increase heat, decrease battery, and inflate benchmarks.

The Jack of Clubs said:
the processor in the infuse is not the same generation as what you would find in something like the captivate. like the different generations of the snapdragon, performance and specifications are pretty much completely different. ill expect some high cpu values to come when we get a new kernel.
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the build.prop shows the same part number. it is the same generation. the snapdragon went through a die shrink (65nm-45nm) and got a new graphics processor. not exactly a good comparison. qc may be better now but that doesnt mean you should expect any more than 1.4 ghz and a few people might be stuck with no overclock at all. really if you want a faster phone why buy what is more or less a midrange processor? infact it is soo hard to find a <1ghz chip now that there isnt really a mid range this year only single core and dual core. there is the tegra2 and the new orion chips and will soon be dual core snapdragons. believe me if this is not fast enough you really want to look at a different platform. i got this phone because i realize clock speed is not as important as good software and because the sgs was so good i thought a bigger screen, more ram, and mhl could only be a good thing.

MikeyMike01 said:
Overclocking phones is stupid. It does little more than increase heat, decrease battery, and inflate benchmarks.
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+100 for this comment.
EVERY overclocked ROM in every phone's thread claims it's 2x faster than any other phone. haha... if every phone is faster than every other phone, what's the point?
I think overclocking is just done for those who need that little extra control in their life that they may be lacking elsewhere, hehe

Exactly... why would You want to overclock a phone, to tell Your friends its overclocked?

...then later ROM Manager, market enabler and ...........tune-in radio ;-)

Trancerush said:
...then later ROM Manager, market enabler and ...........tune-in radio ;-)
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I installed rom manager to try flashing the mobile ap zip but its telling me i have to flash a recovery first. Im a little scared, lol
Not sure if i can find a mobile ap apk?

MikeyMike01 said:
Overclocking phones is stupid. It does little more than increase heat, decrease battery, and inflate benchmarks.
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I fried my beautiful Captivate using an overclocked kernel running at 1.3ghz.....i will never do that again...
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Trancerush said:
Exactly... why would You want to overclock a phone, to tell Your friends its overclocked?
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hell yeah. its impressive. ive never broken anything by overclocking anything. theres been protection built into them for years. its not like battery is really effected, its a scaling processor, its only at the overclocked speed when you need it. as far as im concerned, its free performance, and i plan to use it when the infuse gets some overclockyness.

MikeyMike01 said:
Overclocking phones is stupid. It does little more than increase heat, decrease battery, and inflate benchmarks.
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They may hold true for the Captivate or even the Infuse but it definitely was not the case with the Inspire. A mild bump from 1.0 to 1.2ghz made a very substantial difference in smoothness and feel and did very little to heat and battery.

I find screenshot it so useful. For rooters only
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Please keep the suggestions coming. I am new to Android from the iphone and a newbie to rooting. Knew my way around jailbreaking and what i needed and wanted once that was accomplished, but to tell the truth alot of that comes standard with android so looking to broaden my horizons even more.

I noticed an appreciable difference with my Epic when I overclocked from 1.0ghz to 1.2ghz. Games that normally used to lag, stopped lagging completely. Games load faster. The system performance is much smoother as well.

HTC Sensation is better than SGS2

HTC chip-set of 1.2 dual core and andreno 220 is far more better that SGS2's 1.2 dual core and 2008's Mali-400 chip-set. I used both the handsets and now using HTC Sensation after SGS2.
The main problem with HTC is it's locked boot-loader and it's stock rom which is really not ready to use the full power.. The power is not equally distributed. Benchmark is not everything as sensation has issues with sense 3.0 and better pixels than the SGS2. Below is some link where you can understand the whole technical issues.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1050968
http://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-mali-400mp-gpu-and-vs-adreno-220-gpu/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1169376

The Exysnos processor is better than the Dual Core Snapdragon just like the Hummingbird was better than the single core Snapdragon. Just be happy with your Sensation and stop trying to justify your purchase. Once the Sensation becomes as smooth as the GSII then we can talk bench marks but for right now during every day real world use, the GSII feels faster. Not to mention the GSII brings hardware acceleration to the browser. Something our Qualcom can't do.
By the way...Error 404 on both links.
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I prefer the sensation to sgs2 regardless of benchmarks or performence, mostly because of sense and nicer aesthetics
But I do have one concern, if you got to system/lib/egl, all the libs say adreno 200, could that be affecting performance?
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Actually the OP is right about the adreno 220 being better than the mali 400. The difference is the way samsung optimized the performance of their GPU with drivers and such. But for what the GPU can do spec wise, adreno 220 is superior. Too bad htc did not do a good job of showcasing that.

jrwingate6 said:
The Exysnos processor is better than the Dual Core Snapdragon just like the Hummingbird was better than the single core Snapdragon. Just be happy with your Sensation and stop trying to justify your purchase. Once the Sensation becomes as smooth as the GSII then we can talk bench marks but for right now during every day real world use, the GSII feels faster. Not to mention the GSII brings hardware acceleration to the browser. Something our Qualcom can't do.
By the way...Error 404 on both links.
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Thanks for your reply, I updated those link. Now you will know what you said is not true. I am not justifying anything, True will be true. SGS2 is overclocked to 1.2 by samsung and its all software issues which is, what makes the benchmark result great. Main thing is Other than the GL benchmark, all benchmarking soft is not up to date for the sensation. As its use console-quality 3D graphics and high-end effects such as vertex skinning, full-screen post-processing shader effects, dynamic lighting with full-screen alpha blending, real-time cloth simulation, advanced shader effects like dynamic shadows, god rays, bump mapping.

I trialed one on ATT...and: No its not...(unfortunately)

I think both phones need a cyanogen 2.3.4 rom and then we can see how they perform against each other..sadly for us sensation owners... August couldn't come any quicker lol.
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jony013 said:
Thanks for your reply, I updated those link. Now you will know what you said is not true. I am not justifying anything, True will be true. SGS2 is overclocked to 1.2 by samsung and its all software issues which is, what makes the benchmark result great. Main thing is Other than the GL benchmark, all benchmarking soft is not up to date for the sensation. As its use console-quality 3D graphics and high-end effects such as vertex skinning, full-screen post-processing shader effects, dynamic lighting with full-screen alpha blending, real-time cloth simulation, advanced shader effects like dynamic shadows, god rays, bump mapping.
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Let me ask you something. If the Adreno is so good then why does HomeRun Battle 3D lag sometimes on my Sensation but never lagged once on my Tegra II powered G2X. I could care less about benchmarks or how Samsung is reaching the high numbers. What matters more to me is real world use. I could also care less if Samsung or HTC optimized there processors better than the other. Bottom line. Both of them should be optimized for best performance upon mass release. HTC always has problems with there drivers and quite frankly, the Adreno 220 could be 10 times better than the Mali or the Tegra II but if it doesn't have the software to back it up then its no good to me or you. By the time we get root or better drivers, Tegra III will be out smoking everything in its path including the Adreno 220.
By the way, the Adreno may be better than the Mali but the Snapdragon is very much inferior to the Exynos which is more powerful when it comes to raw processing power. I wish HTC would just ditch Qualcom all together because TI and Samsung continue to **** all over them.
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psn1819 said:
I think both phones need a cyanogen 2.3.4 rom and then we can see how they perform against each other..sadly for us sensation owners... August couldn't come any quicker lol.
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It will not be August/September for the Sensation. Yes it will be unlocked but that is when the custom rom process begins. It will be weeks to months later before you get any stable releases of everything.

The final product Samsung has provided in the Galaxy S II appears to be significantly faster than what HTC provides in the Sensation. I do not use the individual parts of my phone. I use the final product. So whoever optimized what does not matter to me as much as what I see on the screen and hold in my hand.
I prefer the Sensation right now. That is also what I own. The phone before that was the G2x and I liked that one as well...I preferred it to the Galaxy S 4g and the MyTouch 4g. Before that I had a preference for GS 4g...and it goes on from there. I buy the phones I prefer. It is kinda funny to see people defend the smartphone they bought as though they designed and built it themselves.
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pinhead said:
The final product Samsung has provided in the Galaxy S II appears to be significantly faster than what HTC provides in the Sensation. I do not use the individual parts of my phone. I use the final product. So whoever optimized what does not matter to me as much as what I see on the screen and hold in my hand.
I prefer the Sensation right now. That is also what I own. The phone before that was the G2x and I liked that one as well...I preferred it to the Galaxy S 4g and the MyTouch 4g. Before that I had a preference for GS 4g...and it goes on from there. I buy the phones I prefer. It is kinda funny to see people defend the smartphone they bought as though they designed and built it themselves.
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Exactly, I buy whatever phone I like and right now I use a Sensation and a G2X. I think the Sensation is better than the G2X but I think the GSII is better than the Sensation and I'm not affraid to admit that just because I own the Sensation. If people think the Sensation is better than the GSII then they think the Sensation is the best Android phone available right now since almost every review I've read labels the GSII the best Android device to date. In fact, 9 out of 10 reviews state the GSII took Android to the next level but I haven't read any review stating the Sensation took it to the next level. Maybe if HTC would have released it with optimized drivers we would see reviews stating such.
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I am considering getting rid of the sensation due to it getting far to hot, I understand a dual core should put out more heat and its passively cooled but it shouldnt get any where near as hot as it does... I sold my sgs because of how terrible the flashing process is and if i didnt have the efs folder backed up I would of lost my imei

anarchyuk said:
I am considering getting rid of the sensation due to it getting far to hot, I understand a dual core should put out more heat and its passively cooled but it shouldnt get any where near as hot as it does... I sold my sgs because of how terrible the flashing process is and if i didnt have the efs folder backed up I would of lost my imei
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My Sensation gets extremely hot when playing Homerun Battle 3D and my G2X gets no where near as hot when playing the same game. In fact, after playing for 30 minutes it gets so hot that sometimes my screen becomes unresponsive to touch but the accelerometer still works. I think its definitely a driver issue but something shouldn't be getting so hot that it renders the phone useless.
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anarchyuk said:
I am considering getting rid of the sensation due to it getting far to hot, I understand a dual core should put out more heat and its passively cooled but it shouldnt get any where near as hot as it does... I sold my sgs because of how terrible the flashing process is and if i didnt have the efs folder backed up I would of lost my imei
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I would imagine the heat you're talking about might be the battery not as much as the cpu.
I got my "1900mAh" Anker battery a few days ago and I can confirm, as others have in the Anker thread, that it doesn't get anywhere near as hot as it did with the OEM battery.
The easiest test for me was Angry Birds..... 30-45 min with stock battery, 45c avrg. Very hot to hold, even through my case. This Anker....28c avrg. Barley warm...huge difference.
No matter if the numbers are correct, one thing is for sure....I no longer feel ANY excessive heat even with prolonged heavy use.
If heat is why you'd get rid of your Sensation, spend 10 bones and get a new battery. Cheap and stays cool and lasts way longer

That site is funny.
"These benchmark tests shows that Tegra 2 takes the lead over Exynos in almost every category. Specially, this is especially true for mobile gaming."
Looks like everything is better than Exynos.
But you are wrong, sensation is weak.

jrwingate6 said:
Let me ask you something. If the Adreno is so good then why does HomeRun Battle 3D lag sometimes on my Sensation but never lagged once on my Tegra II powered G2X. I could care less about benchmarks or how Samsung is reaching the high numbers. What matters more to me is real world use. I could also care less if Samsung or HTC optimized there processors better than the other. Bottom line. Both of them should be optimized for best performance upon mass release. HTC always has problems with there drivers and quite frankly, the Adreno 220 could be 10 times better than the Mali or the Tegra II but if it doesn't have the software to back it up then its no good to me or you. By the time we get root or better drivers, Tegra III will be out smoking everything in its path including the Adreno 220.
By the way, the Adreno may be better than the Mali but the Snapdragon is very much inferior to the Exynos which is more powerful when it comes to raw processing power. I wish HTC would just ditch Qualcom all together because TI and Samsung continue to **** all over them.
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Sounds to me your phone is syncing in the background

Hey people!! This reminds to me, old times with the HTC HD2 ( quetly brillant )
jajajaja yea yea... just quietly brillant... with the optimized drivers!

I have to laugh at all these banchmarks between the two...they aren't exactly valid.
The Sensation has a higher res screen that is has to push...which obviously means it has more work to do....it's not a fair comparison.
And in any case...benchmarks mean nothing to me...I chose to buy the Sensation because it looks so much better than the GS2, it has a better interface in Sense 3, and it's HTC

DazzXP said:
Sounds to me your phone is syncing in the background
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My device syncs nothing but gmail. I have everything off including the HTC weather. I wouldn't even call my Gmail syncing since I'm using the Gmail app which uses push.
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Hoggles said:
I would imagine the heat you're talking about might be the battery not as much as the cpu.
I got my "1900mAh" Anker battery a few days ago and I can confirm, as others have in the Anker thread, that it doesn't get anywhere near as hot as it did with the OEM battery.
The easiest test for me was Angry Birds..... 30-45 min with stock battery, 45c avrg. Very hot to hold, even through my case. This Anker....28c avrg. Barley warm...huge difference.
No matter if the numbers are correct, one thing is for sure....I no longer feel ANY excessive heat even with prolonged heavy use.
If heat is why you'd get rid of your Sensation, spend 10 bones and get a new battery. Cheap and stays cool and lasts way longer
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My Sensation doesn't get hot near the battery. It gets hot at the very bottom where all of the internals are.
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Do you love your phone?

Hey guys just trying to decide on a phone I was wondering if the infuse is the phone for me any advice? Do you guys like it? If you could get a different one what would you get? Thanks
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Honestly, at this point wait for the SGSII. The phone come out at the end of the month.

I couldn't be much happier with my Infuse. It's a great phone. However, the SGSII will be coming out soon, so you have a tricky decision to make.
The advantages the Infuse has are a 4.5" screen as opposed to the 4.3" screen on the SGSII. Also, you can walk into a store tomorrow and get it.
The advantages of the SGSII are it's dual core processor, and the fact that it will likely have an insanely huge development community.
Both phones have a 1.2 GHz processor, but the dual core in the SGSII will definitely give it an edge. However, I don't have any lag on my infuse whatsoever, so that is kind of negligible to me.
Also, even though the development community for the Infuse will be smaller in the long run, it isn't bad by any means.
It's really a win-win with either choice in my eyes, as right now I would choose my Infuse over anything on the market right now.
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welchertc said:
I couldn't be much happier with my Infuse. It's a great phone. However, the SGSII will be coming out soon, so you have a tricky decision to make.
The advantages the Infuse has are a 4.5" screen as opposed to the 4.3" screen on the SGSII. Also, you can walk into a store tomorrow and get it.
The advantages of the SGSII are it's dual core processor, and the fact that it will likely have an insanely huge development community.
Both phones have a 1.2 GHz processor, but the dual core in the SGSII will definitely give it an edge. However, I don't have any lag on my infuse whatsoever, so that is kind of negligible to me.
Also, even though the development community for the Infuse will be smaller in the long run, it isn't bad by any means.
It's really a win-win with either choice in my eyes, as right now I would choose my Infuse over anything on the market right now.
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I wonder if dual core will make a "real world" difference? When multi-core CPU's for Desktop and Laptop PC's came out they made little difference until there were applications that supported them. It took a number of years for that to happen for other than high end business products.
Is more hype then fact?

MisterEdF said:
I wonder if dual core will make a "real world" difference? When multi-core CPU's for Desktop and Laptop PC's came out they made little difference until there were applications that supported them. It took a number of years for that to happen for other than high end business products.
Is more hype then fact?
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A easier way to make money with a wow factor.
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Best phone I have ever owned. I love it. Fast, great battery life, and the screen is just simply amazing.
The dev section here sucks, g2g and the rest of the dev's for this phone work hard and create some great stuff but there are far too many arrogant and whiney users constantly putting down their work and crying like little girls because they don't understand how to follow directions or realize that roms are a work in progress. Soon the SII will come out and most of them will leave and this section will get a lot more sane and the SII section is going to go to hell.

MisterEdF said:
I wonder if dual core will make a "real world" difference? When multi-core CPU's for Desktop and Laptop PC's came out they made little difference until there were applications that supported them. It took a number of years for that to happen for other than high end business products.
Is more hype then fact?
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dual core always makes a difference, it just doesnt make a 100% difference. there are times it might eliminate all lag making it seem like a world of difference, other times it can make zero difference. the big advantage is when background services are running or on a pc when you have multiple windows open and running different applications. but now pc applications are multi-threaded taking more advantage even when multi tasking is at a minimum.
also remember the dual core phones have faster ram and are arm cortex a9 processors not a8. there may be some new hardware level advancements that can be taken advantage of in the next android releases.
as far as graphics processing goes we have a good gpu and are comparable to a tegra in raw capabilities. though the benchmarks often give the tegra an advantage in speed i find the renderings to look better on the samsung. im not saying anything one way or another. the infuse can accomplish anything a dual core can as far as far as video playback and graphics but the dual core phones have there merit. look at youtube vids side by side of a sgs2 web browsing against other devices. it powers through flash a lot faster than anything else i have seen.

Dani897 said:
dual core always makes a difference, it just doesnt make a 100% difference. there are times it might eliminate all lag making it seem like a world of difference, other times it can make zero difference. the big advantage is when background services are running or on a pc when you have multiple windows open and running different applications. but now pc applications are multi-threaded taking more advantage even when multi tasking is at a minimum.
also remember the dual core phones have faster ram and are arm cortex a9 processors not a8. there may be some new hardware level advancements that can be taken advantage of in the next android releases.
as far as graphics processing goes we have a good gpu and are comparable to a tegra in raw capabilities. though the benchmarks often give the tegra an advantage in speed i find the renderings to look better on the samsung. im not saying anything one way or another. the infuse can accomplish anything a dual core can as far as far as video playback and graphics but the dual core phones have there merit. look at youtube vids side by side of a sgs2 web browsing against other devices. it powers through flash a lot faster than anything else i have seen.
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I, like MrEdf (I'm Mr. Ed 2 lol) don't see much of a difference when using todays line up of applications when it comes to single vs dual...
the ram is supposed to be better but we have no devices utilizing that to test with right now...so it is just speculation.
take the dual core phones out now and run them through real world scenarios side by side with an overclocked android device be it hummingbird or snapdragon and look for a difference....granted the benchmark will be better on the dual core and it truly is more powerful, there isn't much developed to at this point that will utilize it.
what I hope to see is better multitasking. i get completely scattered going back and forth between apps and my phone gets all pissed off about it.
I've mentioned in a few other threads my plans...I'll test several devices (atrix is already out of the picture) like the lg thrill, the gs2 and my infuse, prolly throw our inspire into the tests just for fun... in the end I will use the one I like the most
I love this phone....right now. ask me again in a month lol

you tube
here we go.
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assuming infuse on froyo whereas s2 on gingerbread.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hqo5Rmx3WtA
if difference is fraction of a second then i think one can live with it.
at the end of the day both are just phones and for more complicated work we have laptops and netbooks or tablets.

rohit3192 said:
here we go.
(video not uploaded by me)
assuming infuse on froyo whereas s2 on gingerbread.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hqo5Rmx3WtA
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He has some excellent comparison videos...
keep in mind that is the euro s2 as well..who knows what variation we end up with in the US

I love this phone, the devs are awesome and their product is top notch. I have yet to find a rom our kernel that I wouldn't run. Everything is good and its just a matter of preference and a few specific features. The community its great, aside from a few bad apples, but generally they are very helpful and informative.
I too was looking at the sgII but needed a new phone and picked up the infuse, I have no regrets, plus the scuttlebutt if that the attain (att version of sgII) will have a physical keyboard.
All in all, infuse is they best phone I've ever owned and can easily see it keeping me happy for a long time.
Infused with gingerbread **** thanks GTG465X

Agree with many people here. Wait for the SGSII. Don't get me wrong, the Infuse is a great phone, but unless the SGSII is over $200 on contract, I would just wait for it
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The SGSII is certainly the phone to beat, however be aware that it has a smaller battery than the Infuse and with the dual core processor it's battery life is not great. Also rumor has it that AT&T's version will have a slide-out keyboard (confirmed by a friend of mine who works at an AT&T store). If that's the case I would have no interest in the phone because the keyboard will make it thicker. In any case you can get an Infuse and have 30 days to try it out before needing to return it. Samsung is having their release event later this month so you'd still be inside the return window if they announce something your interested in. I find the 1.2Ghz processor in the Infuse to be outstanding and don't find any speed complaints, in fact I'd trade better battery life for single core versus dual core. And our Infuse has the largest Super AMOLED Plus screen.

[Q] Which HTC One S Should I Get

I am Going To Get an HTC One S. My Friend Is Coming From Canada and I Can Get an HTC One S from Him with a Snapdragon s4 Dual Core Processor Clocked at 1.5 GHz. I can Also Get In India as it is launched today but it has a Snapdragon s3 Dual Core Processor which is pre overcclocked to 1.7 GHz
Which one should i get?
Am I right that I would not be able to install an custom roms made now.
I know that i can overclock the canadian one s to 1.8 GHz with a custom kernel

you can install any custom ROM on the One S..
Its a no-brainer !! S3 @ 1.7ghz or S4 @ 1.8ghz ??
Obviously you should go for the S4 cause its newer and better. And can be overclocked.... However it is not needed as it performs excellently

azzledazzle said:
you can install any custom ROM on the One S..
Its a no-brainer !! S3 @ 1.7ghz or S4 @ 1.8ghz ??
Obviously you should go for the S4 cause its newer and better. And can be overclocked.... However it is not needed as it performs excellently
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Anything About The Battery
and We can't install custom roms on at&t one x which are made for international version As it Has Snapdragon S4 Processor and the Internation version has tegra 3 quad core.
I am saying we can't install custom roms which are made for the s4 and we have to make it different roms for s3 version

Oh I see,
But if you get the S4 version then you can flash every rom that is available in these threads
I dont get why different regions modify the phone, It makes no sense.
Why should someone have a less powerful processor than the next person just because they live in different locations ?? Anyway, Go for the S4 version then, Much more supported i believe and everyone here has that one

azzledazzle said:
Oh I see,
But if you get the S4 version then you can flash every rom that is available in these threads
I dont get why different regions modify the phone, It makes no sense.
Why should someone have a less powerful processor than the next person just because they live in different locations ?? Anyway, Go for the S4 version then, Much more supported i believe and everyone here has that one
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Thanks and
According To Report, They Say that Their are Shortages of S4 Processor so The Have Used S3 and Overclocked it

The S4 is preferable. It has better manufacturing tech, and should deliver more cpu cycles (or MHz if you want) on the same amount of power consumed. Perhaps not that noticeable, but it should save some battery in theory
Also, unless you want to join us in the MAO-chipping thread, go for the gray/blue one, not the much cooler looking black one

Komadyret said:
The S4 is preferable. It has better manufacturing tech, and should deliver more cpu cycles (or MHz if you want) on the same amount of power consumed. Perhaps not that noticeable, but it should save some battery in theory
Also, unless you want to join us in the MAO-chipping thread, go for the gray/blue one, not the much cooler looking black one
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I like The Black One a Lot because of its cool looks and great feel.
what to do then grey/blue version or black

Grey/ blue unless you want the paint messed up quick. I have a grey. Love the way it looks ^_^
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I have a black. Already spent 4 out of the 8 weeks since I bought it without the phone as it was in repair shop to have the uni-body replaced due to coating chipping off ...

I'll get a grey one then from Canada with an S4 Processor and not an S3 one and a Black One
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hskharkunwar said:
I'll get a grey one then from Canada with an S4 Processor and not an S3 one and a Black One
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NP, hopes it makes you happy and satisfied. Apart from the coating chipping off , I find this the best phone I've ever used. Larger screens may be better, but no way I'm gonna have anything bigger than this and still call it a phone. This is an amazing phone IMHO

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NP, hopes it makes you happy and satisfied. Apart from the coating chipping off , I find this the best phone I've ever used. Larger screens may be better, but no way I'm gonna have anything bigger than this and still call it a phone. This is an amazing phone IMHO
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I also Love HTC One S a lot
I also can't call anything a phone which is larger than this
accordingly 4.3" is considered a the largest phone and 4.4" is the smallest tablet. i wanted a phone and not Small tablets like HTC One X and Samsung Galaxy S III

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Moved To Q&A​
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Sorry For That
Coming From Galaxy Y
There was no Q&A Section in that So I didn't see that
We used to post questions in the General There

How much more can mobile hardware advance?

Ok guys,
I'm due an upgrade in August, but I don't know whether to pass out on it.
I currently have a Desire S. It's got quite old hardware, a single core chip. I'm a heavy user of my phone, so it has to do many things for me - web browsing, email, etc.
I can't afford a quad core highend phone. So I'm thinking of getting a One S. It's only dual core... But if I get it, it will have to last me at least 2 years. That's a big decision to make. I've only had my Desire S 11 months, and I already stayed feeling the need to upgrade.
I need a faster CPU to keep up with android demands, and a larger screen.
The thing is, if I get the One S, how outdated will it be?
From what I see, dual core has a huge advantage over single core.
But quad core not so much over dual core... (Or maybe android isn't making good use of it)
What's next for the move in smartphones? 8 cores seems unlikely... So what will be next? If nothing big comes along, will the One S and its dual core chip still be good enough to last me 2 years?
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I'd wait until HTC announces a new, better phone than the One series. Bit the Ones are great phones, you can't go wrong with them.
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I'd wait until HTC announces a new, better phone than the One series. Bit the Ones are great phones, you can't go wrong with them.
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Thanks, but what significant hardware improvements will HTC bring?
How will it differ greatly from the current range?
That leaves my other concern, is 10GB in the One S enough to last me 2 years? I've gotten by on a 8GB SD card on my Desire S...
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I would probably wait for a phone with 2GB or RAM such as the US version of the S3. Dual or quad core with 2gb or RAM should be good for at least 2 years.

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I would probably wait for a phone with 2GB or RAM such as the US version of the S3. Dual or quad core with 2gb or RAM should be good for at least 2 years.
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So you are saying RAM is gonna make a huge difference?
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olyloh6696 said:
It's got quite old hardware, a single core chip. I'm a heavy user of my phone, so it has to do many things for me - web browsing, email, etc.
I can't afford a quad core highend phone. So I'm thinking of getting a One S. It's only dual core...
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I use Windows Phone 7.5 so I don't have to OBSESS about cores. I don't need 4 cores to check email whether I check email once a day or once a minute. Sorry I can't help.

sitizenx said:
I use Windows Phone 7.5 so I don't have to OBSESS about cores. I don't need 4 cores to check email whether I check email once a day or once a minute. Sorry I can't help.
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Yeah, I see where u are coming from, but this isn't the case with android... It NEEDs the cores to have a smooth experience...
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So you are saying RAM is gonna make a huge difference?
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I think it will eventually. We are becoming more and more dependent on our phones. We want them to sync facebook, use GPS, listen to music and text at the same time. Once the software catches up to the hardware, there will only be more things to add to our multi tasking...more RAM is definitely the way to go.

Honestly, I'd say pick the one that has the best battery life, useability and moddability. Most of these smartphones nowadays are neck and neck imo. So you may as well get the one that you can customize the hell out of and will net you what you consider acceptable battery life.
If you want two cores you can probably score a deal on a Galaxy S II I saw "Fire-Sales" in London where they were going for £180 - £220. I recently picked up my Galaxy S I for £100 new in box. Also don't forget devices like the Optimus 2x or the Atrix 4G.

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Yeah, I see where u are coming from, but this isn't the case with android... It NEEDs the cores to have a smooth experience...
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I would very strongly disagree with that. I'm using my HD2 which has hardware about a year and a half older than the Desire S (basically an older generation CPU and GPU, approximately 200Mb less RAM, Windows Mobile as stock) and it runs ICS (CM9) very smoothly. It's been three years since it's release and it's still going strong. There is a potential One V Alpha build and I think Jelly Bean (or whatever the next iteration of Android will be called) is quite possible for the HD2. I think that the One S is a poor choice, because you might as well just get a Sensation which has essentially the same hardware as the One S and has the added benefits of being cheaper, having a bigger developer base (I think) and having a menu button (which is a lot more useful than you'd think, the onscreen one is very ugly ). Whether or not this will last you 2 years on official software I don't know, but I reckon it'll last a good couple of years. The only problem is if the devs move off of the Sensation and on to a new phone.

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I think it will eventually. We are becoming more and more dependent on our phones. We want them to sync facebook, use GPS, listen to music and text at the same time. Once the software catches up to the hardware, there will only be more things to add to our multi tasking...more RAM is definitely the way to go.
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Thanks mate. I read that the SGS3 struggles with RAM (1GB version) as the new skin is so heavy, that the launcher constantly withdraws etc.
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Honestly, I'd say pick the one that has the best battery life, useability and moddability. Most of these smartphones nowadays are neck and neck imo. So you may as well get the one that you can customize the hell out of and will net you what you consider acceptable battery life.
If you want two cores you can probably score a deal on a Galaxy S II I saw "Fire-Sales" in London where they were going for £180 - £220. I recently picked up my Galaxy S I for £100 new in box. Also don't forget devices like the Optimus 2x or the Atrix 4G.
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Thanks man! Fire-sales - can you be more direct please? Are these brand new from retail shops? I had my eye on the SGS2 aswell...
Where can I look around?
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olyloh6696 said:
Thanks mate. I read that the SGS3 struggles with RAM (1GB version) as the new skin is so heavy, that the launcher constantly withdraws etc.
Thanks man! Fire-sales - can you be more direct please? Are these brand new from retail shops? I had my eye on the SGS2 aswell...
Where can I look around?
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Oh when I wrote my post (you probably missed it on the previous page) I was making the assume that you wanted to go HTC only. If you are willing to go for an SGS2, that would definitely beat a Sensation IMO.

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I would very strongly disagree with that. I'm using my HD2 which has hardware about a year and a half older than the Desire S (basically an older generation CPU and GPU, approximately 200Mb less RAM, Windows Mobile as stock) and it runs ICS (CM9) very smoothly. It's been three years since it's release and it's still going strong. There is a potential One V Alpha build and I think Jelly Bean (or whatever the next iteration of Android will be called) is quite possible for the HD2. I think that the One S is a poor choice, because you might as well just get a Sensation which has essentially the same hardware as the One S and has the added benefits of being cheaper, having a bigger developer base (I think) and having a menu button (which is a lot more useful than you'd think, the onscreen one is very ugly ). Whether or not this will last you 2 years on official software I don't know, but I reckon it'll last a good couple of years. The only problem is if the devs move off of the Sensation and on to a new phone.
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Well, I don't use AOSP ROMs. I use full Sense ROMs, so the phone is slower, I use it heavily for web browsing, and gaming etc. I've noticed the browser is never as smooth as a dual core phone. I use my phone extensively, therefore, I like fluid performance, and for me android on a single core doesn't satisfy MY needs.
Also you are slightly off... The One S is far ahead of the Sensation. It uses a S4 chip compared to the S3 in the Sensation with a much newer CPU and GPU, it's much much more efficient, and currently the best dual core chip... That's why I wanted to choose that...
Dev support Is decent for the One S.
I'm open to all android manufacturers. (Actually. Only Samsung or HTC)
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The specs for all flagship phones are all very good now, maybe a little saturated. The important thing is the advancement in software. There is still no LibreOffice or full Adobe Photoshop or AutoCAD for Android. Fanboys will get mad reading this, but Android needs vast improvement in interface speed, look at Windows Phone running on single core devices and their boot time.
Phones will keep getting better because it will be the main 'PC' for everyone in the future (if not already now). People will carry it with them then dock it to do more productive tasks. Which is what Ubuntu is trying to do with Android.
For me personally, the Nexus still gives me the most freedom and most up to date Android version, so no reason to buy anything else yet.
The best example of hardware ahead of software is the next iPhone, no matter how high res or fast it is, its still an iPhone running on closed source iOS, so I won't buy it.

Is cutting edge hardware really that necessary? If you noticed, Google is the responsible for pushing the envelope and forcing more powerful hardware with less battery life and so. Remeber what happened to Honeycomb? Running slow and sluggish even on the platform it was specifically made for. Or wondering why the old Tegra cpu has some lag on ICS when the most recent S4 and Exynos quad core doesn't? Is there a reason for a dual core smartphone (HTC One S) to score higher than a quad core(HTC One X)? Our modern cutting edge phones are bigger, with objectionable battery life and can barely fit in our pockets.
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Well, I don't use AOSP ROMs. I use full Sense ROMs, so the phone is slower, I use it heavily for web browsing, and gaming etc. I've noticed the browser is never as smooth as a dual core phone. I use my phone extensively, therefore, I like fluid performance, and for me android on a single core doesn't satisfy MY needs.
Also you are slightly off... The One S is far ahead of the Sensation. It uses a S4 chip compared to the S3 in the Sensation with a much newer CPU and GPU, it's much much more efficient, and currently the best dual core chip... That's why I wanted to choose that...
Dev support Is decent for the One S.
I'm open to all android manufacturers. (Actually. Only Samsung or HTC)
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Yeah, I don't use Sense for the reason that I find it sluggish. I've used my Mum's desire S now and again purely to see how good Sense is and whether or not to flash it, and it's always just seemed too slow for me, and since your hardware is of a newer generation I doubt my phone would cope well. However, with CM9 it genuinely is fast and smooth. The best performance improvement I've noticed over CM7/GB is in the browser, where I find the smoothness and the zooming comparable with an SGS3.
The One S is far ahead of the Sensation, you're right (actually it scores higher quadrant scores than a Sensation as well I think) but the only problem I'd have with a One S is simply that I don't know whether or not it's necessary to pay extra when you can pick up a Sensation relatively cheaply. In day-to-day performance I don't know whether or not you'll notice it tbh.
Perhaps an SGS2 would be better then, or maybe as suggested above a GNex.

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The specs for all flagship phones are all very good now, maybe a little saturated. The important thing is the advancement in software. There is still no LibreOffice or full Adobe Photoshop or AutoCAD for Android. Fanboys will get mad reading this, but Android needs vast improvement in interface speed, look at Windows Phone running on single core devices and their boot time.
Phones will keep getting better because it will be the main 'PC' for everyone in the future (if not already now). People will carry it with them then dock it to do more productive tasks. Which is what Ubuntu is trying to do with Android.
For me personally, the Nexus still gives me the most freedom and most up to date Android version, so no reason to buy anything else yet.
The best example of hardware ahead of software is the next iPhone, no matter how high res or fast it is, its still an iPhone running on closed source iOS, so I won't buy it.
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Yeah I agree with you. It's a shame OEMs don't provide software updates to the phones though, even though they are far capable. The One S is likely to receive Jellybean... But what about Key Lime Pie in the future?
That's where my problem lies. In 2 years, support will be dead. Also, I know you can use custom ROMs etc, but they are never perfect, as you need the official kernel source from HTC so the ROM cam be stable.
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Is cutting edge hardware really that necessary? If you noticed, Google is the responsible for pushing the envelope and forcing more powerful hardware with less battery life and so. Remeber what happened to Honeycomb? Running slow and sluggish even on the platform it was specifically made for. Or wondering why the old Tegra cpu has some lag on ICS when the most recent S4 and Exynos quad core doesn't? Is there a reason for a dual core smartphone (HTC One S) to score higher than a quad core(HTC One X)? Our modern cutting edge phones are bigger, with objectionable battery life and can barely fit in our pockets.
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Well, I don't like to be behind in technology. When I compare my Desire S to say, a SGS2, it makes me weep seeing how much faster the SGS is. That's why my question, will hardware improve much from quad core? For me, dual core to quad core is a much smaller jump, than single to dual.
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Yeah, I don't use Sense for the reason that I find it sluggish. I've used my Mum's desire S now and again purely to see how good Sense is and whether or not to flash it, and it's always just seemed too slow for me, and since your hardware is of a newer generation I doubt my phone would cope well. However, with CM9 it genuinely is fast and smooth. The best performance improvement I've noticed over CM7/GB is in the browser, where I find the smoothness and the zooming comparable with an SGS3.
The One S is far ahead of the Sensation, you're right (actually it scores higher quadrant scores than a Sensation as well I think) but the only problem I'd have with a One S is simply that I don't know whether or not it's necessary to pay extra when you can pick up a Sensation relatively cheaply. In day-to-day performance I don't know whether or not you'll notice it tbh.
Perhaps an SGS2 would be better then, or maybe as suggested above a GNex.
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Yeah, thanks for the suggestion, I was thinking of the SGS2, for me the browser is far from what the SGS2 offers. There's a good video on YouTube,
Desire S vs SGS2 web browsing... Just watch the difference and you will kno what I mean!
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I'm looking forward to see what Intel will do for mobile platforms now that they have joined in, they are new to mobile development but it seems like they are working on there hyper threading tech on there socs, sending 2 commands per core like there desktop PC chips (1 core processing the same amount of information that two cores would do). The next 24 months will be an exciting time for the mobile market!
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