HTC chip-set of 1.2 dual core and andreno 220 is far more better that SGS2's 1.2 dual core and 2008's Mali-400 chip-set. I used both the handsets and now using HTC Sensation after SGS2.
The main problem with HTC is it's locked boot-loader and it's stock rom which is really not ready to use the full power.. The power is not equally distributed. Benchmark is not everything as sensation has issues with sense 3.0 and better pixels than the SGS2. Below is some link where you can understand the whole technical issues.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1050968
http://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-mali-400mp-gpu-and-vs-adreno-220-gpu/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1169376
The Exysnos processor is better than the Dual Core Snapdragon just like the Hummingbird was better than the single core Snapdragon. Just be happy with your Sensation and stop trying to justify your purchase. Once the Sensation becomes as smooth as the GSII then we can talk bench marks but for right now during every day real world use, the GSII feels faster. Not to mention the GSII brings hardware acceleration to the browser. Something our Qualcom can't do.
By the way...Error 404 on both links.
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I prefer the sensation to sgs2 regardless of benchmarks or performence, mostly because of sense and nicer aesthetics
But I do have one concern, if you got to system/lib/egl, all the libs say adreno 200, could that be affecting performance?
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Actually the OP is right about the adreno 220 being better than the mali 400. The difference is the way samsung optimized the performance of their GPU with drivers and such. But for what the GPU can do spec wise, adreno 220 is superior. Too bad htc did not do a good job of showcasing that.
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The Exysnos processor is better than the Dual Core Snapdragon just like the Hummingbird was better than the single core Snapdragon. Just be happy with your Sensation and stop trying to justify your purchase. Once the Sensation becomes as smooth as the GSII then we can talk bench marks but for right now during every day real world use, the GSII feels faster. Not to mention the GSII brings hardware acceleration to the browser. Something our Qualcom can't do.
By the way...Error 404 on both links.
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Thanks for your reply, I updated those link. Now you will know what you said is not true. I am not justifying anything, True will be true. SGS2 is overclocked to 1.2 by samsung and its all software issues which is, what makes the benchmark result great. Main thing is Other than the GL benchmark, all benchmarking soft is not up to date for the sensation. As its use console-quality 3D graphics and high-end effects such as vertex skinning, full-screen post-processing shader effects, dynamic lighting with full-screen alpha blending, real-time cloth simulation, advanced shader effects like dynamic shadows, god rays, bump mapping.
I trialed one on ATT...and: No its not...(unfortunately)
I think both phones need a cyanogen 2.3.4 rom and then we can see how they perform against each other..sadly for us sensation owners... August couldn't come any quicker lol.
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Thanks for your reply, I updated those link. Now you will know what you said is not true. I am not justifying anything, True will be true. SGS2 is overclocked to 1.2 by samsung and its all software issues which is, what makes the benchmark result great. Main thing is Other than the GL benchmark, all benchmarking soft is not up to date for the sensation. As its use console-quality 3D graphics and high-end effects such as vertex skinning, full-screen post-processing shader effects, dynamic lighting with full-screen alpha blending, real-time cloth simulation, advanced shader effects like dynamic shadows, god rays, bump mapping.
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Let me ask you something. If the Adreno is so good then why does HomeRun Battle 3D lag sometimes on my Sensation but never lagged once on my Tegra II powered G2X. I could care less about benchmarks or how Samsung is reaching the high numbers. What matters more to me is real world use. I could also care less if Samsung or HTC optimized there processors better than the other. Bottom line. Both of them should be optimized for best performance upon mass release. HTC always has problems with there drivers and quite frankly, the Adreno 220 could be 10 times better than the Mali or the Tegra II but if it doesn't have the software to back it up then its no good to me or you. By the time we get root or better drivers, Tegra III will be out smoking everything in its path including the Adreno 220.
By the way, the Adreno may be better than the Mali but the Snapdragon is very much inferior to the Exynos which is more powerful when it comes to raw processing power. I wish HTC would just ditch Qualcom all together because TI and Samsung continue to **** all over them.
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I think both phones need a cyanogen 2.3.4 rom and then we can see how they perform against each other..sadly for us sensation owners... August couldn't come any quicker lol.
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It will not be August/September for the Sensation. Yes it will be unlocked but that is when the custom rom process begins. It will be weeks to months later before you get any stable releases of everything.
The final product Samsung has provided in the Galaxy S II appears to be significantly faster than what HTC provides in the Sensation. I do not use the individual parts of my phone. I use the final product. So whoever optimized what does not matter to me as much as what I see on the screen and hold in my hand.
I prefer the Sensation right now. That is also what I own. The phone before that was the G2x and I liked that one as well...I preferred it to the Galaxy S 4g and the MyTouch 4g. Before that I had a preference for GS 4g...and it goes on from there. I buy the phones I prefer. It is kinda funny to see people defend the smartphone they bought as though they designed and built it themselves.
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The final product Samsung has provided in the Galaxy S II appears to be significantly faster than what HTC provides in the Sensation. I do not use the individual parts of my phone. I use the final product. So whoever optimized what does not matter to me as much as what I see on the screen and hold in my hand.
I prefer the Sensation right now. That is also what I own. The phone before that was the G2x and I liked that one as well...I preferred it to the Galaxy S 4g and the MyTouch 4g. Before that I had a preference for GS 4g...and it goes on from there. I buy the phones I prefer. It is kinda funny to see people defend the smartphone they bought as though they designed and built it themselves.
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Exactly, I buy whatever phone I like and right now I use a Sensation and a G2X. I think the Sensation is better than the G2X but I think the GSII is better than the Sensation and I'm not affraid to admit that just because I own the Sensation. If people think the Sensation is better than the GSII then they think the Sensation is the best Android phone available right now since almost every review I've read labels the GSII the best Android device to date. In fact, 9 out of 10 reviews state the GSII took Android to the next level but I haven't read any review stating the Sensation took it to the next level. Maybe if HTC would have released it with optimized drivers we would see reviews stating such.
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I am considering getting rid of the sensation due to it getting far to hot, I understand a dual core should put out more heat and its passively cooled but it shouldnt get any where near as hot as it does... I sold my sgs because of how terrible the flashing process is and if i didnt have the efs folder backed up I would of lost my imei
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I am considering getting rid of the sensation due to it getting far to hot, I understand a dual core should put out more heat and its passively cooled but it shouldnt get any where near as hot as it does... I sold my sgs because of how terrible the flashing process is and if i didnt have the efs folder backed up I would of lost my imei
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My Sensation gets extremely hot when playing Homerun Battle 3D and my G2X gets no where near as hot when playing the same game. In fact, after playing for 30 minutes it gets so hot that sometimes my screen becomes unresponsive to touch but the accelerometer still works. I think its definitely a driver issue but something shouldn't be getting so hot that it renders the phone useless.
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I am considering getting rid of the sensation due to it getting far to hot, I understand a dual core should put out more heat and its passively cooled but it shouldnt get any where near as hot as it does... I sold my sgs because of how terrible the flashing process is and if i didnt have the efs folder backed up I would of lost my imei
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I would imagine the heat you're talking about might be the battery not as much as the cpu.
I got my "1900mAh" Anker battery a few days ago and I can confirm, as others have in the Anker thread, that it doesn't get anywhere near as hot as it did with the OEM battery.
The easiest test for me was Angry Birds..... 30-45 min with stock battery, 45c avrg. Very hot to hold, even through my case. This Anker....28c avrg. Barley warm...huge difference.
No matter if the numbers are correct, one thing is for sure....I no longer feel ANY excessive heat even with prolonged heavy use.
If heat is why you'd get rid of your Sensation, spend 10 bones and get a new battery. Cheap and stays cool and lasts way longer
That site is funny.
"These benchmark tests shows that Tegra 2 takes the lead over Exynos in almost every category. Specially, this is especially true for mobile gaming."
Looks like everything is better than Exynos.
But you are wrong, sensation is weak.
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Let me ask you something. If the Adreno is so good then why does HomeRun Battle 3D lag sometimes on my Sensation but never lagged once on my Tegra II powered G2X. I could care less about benchmarks or how Samsung is reaching the high numbers. What matters more to me is real world use. I could also care less if Samsung or HTC optimized there processors better than the other. Bottom line. Both of them should be optimized for best performance upon mass release. HTC always has problems with there drivers and quite frankly, the Adreno 220 could be 10 times better than the Mali or the Tegra II but if it doesn't have the software to back it up then its no good to me or you. By the time we get root or better drivers, Tegra III will be out smoking everything in its path including the Adreno 220.
By the way, the Adreno may be better than the Mali but the Snapdragon is very much inferior to the Exynos which is more powerful when it comes to raw processing power. I wish HTC would just ditch Qualcom all together because TI and Samsung continue to **** all over them.
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Sounds to me your phone is syncing in the background
Hey people!! This reminds to me, old times with the HTC HD2 ( quetly brillant )
jajajaja yea yea... just quietly brillant... with the optimized drivers!
I have to laugh at all these banchmarks between the two...they aren't exactly valid.
The Sensation has a higher res screen that is has to push...which obviously means it has more work to do....it's not a fair comparison.
And in any case...benchmarks mean nothing to me...I chose to buy the Sensation because it looks so much better than the GS2, it has a better interface in Sense 3, and it's HTC
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My device syncs nothing but gmail. I have everything off including the HTC weather. I wouldn't even call my Gmail syncing since I'm using the Gmail app which uses push.
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I would imagine the heat you're talking about might be the battery not as much as the cpu.
I got my "1900mAh" Anker battery a few days ago and I can confirm, as others have in the Anker thread, that it doesn't get anywhere near as hot as it did with the OEM battery.
The easiest test for me was Angry Birds..... 30-45 min with stock battery, 45c avrg. Very hot to hold, even through my case. This Anker....28c avrg. Barley warm...huge difference.
No matter if the numbers are correct, one thing is for sure....I no longer feel ANY excessive heat even with prolonged heavy use.
If heat is why you'd get rid of your Sensation, spend 10 bones and get a new battery. Cheap and stays cool and lasts way longer
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My Sensation doesn't get hot near the battery. It gets hot at the very bottom where all of the internals are.
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i can't understand how the senstaion and the galaxy s2 so similar in there hardware
and in the benchmarks the sensation is so far away from the galaxy s2
it's driving me crazy....somebody know why it's like that???
another question is after reading lot's on this phones i couldn't know which one as better battery life???
thanks
Sense 3.0 and the qHD screen are the main answers. Once we get CM7 on both devices, I'm sure they'll be evenly matched.
welcome noob,
its because touch wiz is simple and sh*t and sense is a complete new interface so its doing more things in the background
also sensation has much more pixels to push through than the galaxy s2, and at the moment sense containts bloatware which we dont want. when the bootloader is unlocked and rooted, we will be able to install custom roms which are much faster.
The Galaxy S2 uses the tegra 2, the sensation uses the Qualcomm Snapdragon msm8260.
^ the main difference^
Tegra 1.x years old already, so it's more mature, and it's starting to get support.
On the other hand the MSM8260 is a newbie..which needs some polishing.
Though, don't trust benchmarks...they mean nothing.
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The Galaxy S2 uses the tegra 2, the sensation uses the Qualcomm Snapdragon msm8260.
^ the main difference^
Tegra 1.x years old already, so it's more mature, and it's starting to get support.
On the other hand the MSM8260 is a newbie..which needs some polishing.
Though, don't trust benchmarks...they mean nothing.
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its true, benchmarks are just a wase of time,
you dont go round benchmarking 2 brand new cars, crag racing them and rallying them to see which one handles and drives the best!
Does anyone know if the sensation comes with a super lcd screen or just a regular tft screen?
chchang1 said:
The Galaxy S2 uses the tegra 2, the sensation uses the Qualcomm Snapdragon msm8260.
^ the main difference^
Tegra 1.x years old already, so it's more mature, and it's starting to get support.
On the other hand the MSM8260 is a newbie..which needs some polishing.
Though, don't trust benchmarks...they mean nothing.
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SGS2 doesn't use tegra 2. It uses Samsungs exynos CPU/GPU. OP, one of the main reasons why quadrant gives the Sensation such low scores is due to the I/O score which reads and writes to the internal storage. The Sensation uses a slower format than the SGS2, and also most likely uses slower nand than samsungs (remember samsung makes nand, maybe an edge up). SGS2 uses EXT4. The second part of the low score is due to the Sensation having a higher res screen which means it's working harder to fill the screen. The third reason is that the snapdragon they're using is dual core, but it's based off of arm8 whereas the SGS2 exynos is based off of arm9. Newer tech usually has the upper hand. I'm sure an update will come out to help smooth out the lag in the OS. And I agree about not trusting benchmarks. Trust the experience, not a bunch of numbers.
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Does anyone know if the sensation comes with a super lcd screen or just a regular tft screen?
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Super LCD
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Super LCD
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And Gorilla glass.
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thanks all of you for a great answers....
what about the battery life???
is the slcd screen is killing battery or exactly opposite?
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SGS2 doesn't use tegra 2. It uses Samsungs exynos CPU/GPU. OP, one of the main reasons why quadrant gives the Sensation such low scores is due to the I/O score which reads and writes to the internal storage. The Sensation uses a slower format than the SGS2, and also most likely uses slower nand than samsungs (remember samsung makes nand, maybe an edge up). SGS2 uses EXT4. The second part of the low score is due to the Sensation having a higher res screen which means it's working harder to fill the screen. The third reason is that the snapdragon they're using is dual core, but it's based off of arm8 whereas the SGS2 exynos is based off of arm9. Newer tech usually has the upper hand. I'm sure an update will come out to help smooth out the lag in the OS. And I agree about not trusting benchmarks. Trust the experience, not a bunch of numbers.
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The stuff you say about the snapdragon is based of arm8 is wrong , as its a completely new arcitecture, it has loads of new functions that the old arm8 doesn't have. Can't remember where i read it, but its true
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The stuff you say about the snapdragon is based of arm8 is wrong , as its a completely new arcitecture, it has loads of new functions that the old arm8 doesn't have. Can't remember where i read it, but its true
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Believe it's based on the arm8, but HIGHLY modified by Qualcom.. That's what gsmarena wrote at least
If it's highly modified, could we say it's equal or near power to arm cortex 9? Or synthetic benchmarks are right on snapdragon don't have equal power to arm 9?
So I had a chance to play around with one yesterday and I don't care what the benchmarks say, this phone feels lightning quick and it was crazy smooth when browsing engadget.com.
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So I had a chance to play around with one yesterday and I don't care what the benchmarks say, this phone feels lightning quick and it was crazy smooth when browsing engadget.com.
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^^^^^^ This
I haven't had any slowdowns or browsing problems.
I got a great review between SGS2 and HTC Sensation. Guys you will love it. Thanks to the author.
Link:-
http://www.smartphonegurus.com/forums/topic/13554-mega-review-htc-sensation-v-samsung-galaxy-sii/
This was a seriously in-depth review and the reviewer analysis seemed to do a great job. Thanks for the link.
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Good review. I wish I could test one out myself..
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the Sensation is a pre-release ROM that has yet to be fine-tuned by HTC
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Wait what? This is new information. If it's true, then why the heck is that ROM on my phone?
Thanks, very thorough review.
What a load of biased ****. Sorry Sensation brotherhood but your blind if you can't see the straight up favoritism towards the Sensation. In the categories where the GSII wins, he makes up some excuse like, "The GSII is faster because its running on a final release but HTC released the Sensation on a pre-release ROM." Ill be the first to say that I love my camera on my Sensation and that its better than my G2X but if you take the time to fiddle with some settings, the GSII camera is better. Especially during low light conditions.
I know most Sensation owners are going GaGa over this review but I'm not affraid to say it SUCKED. There is nothing I hate more than biased reviews. Especially when someone clearly wastes a **** load of there time to come to a false conclusion. Bottom line. Samsung is innovating with its hardware accelerated browsing and fast ass Exynos chip while HTC is releasing phones clearly not ready for mainstream use.
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What a load of biased ****.
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It's fine that he likes the Sensation better, other people do too. But if you're biased going in, don't pretend to be objective. To JR's point, it's very transparent. There were things that he originally stated about the SGS2 that weren't factual. The writer came back to the SGS2 forum and apologized because he posted a link there a couple of weeks ago and his inaccuracies were pointed out. I didn't reread the article to see if he updated it. If it were just one guy's opinion, and he declared that, fine. It would be like any of us sharing our personal opinions. But to set the comparison up as a detailed semi-professional test and reach some of the conclusions he did, not very credible. And with his constant interjection of his personal opinion, I wouldn't have found him or the article any more credible even if he deemed the SGS2 the winner.
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It's fine that he likes the Sensation better, other people do too. But if you're biased going in, don't pretend to be objective. To JR's point, it's very transparent. There were things that he originally stated about the SGS2 that weren't factual. The writer came back to the SGS2 forum and apologized because he posted a link there a couple of weeks ago and his inaccuracies were pointed out. I didn't reread the article to see if he updated it. If it were just one guy's opinion, and he declared that, fine. It would be like any of us sharing our personal opinions. But to set the comparison up as a detailed semi-professional test and reach some of the conclusions he did, not very credible. And with his constant interjection of his personal opinion, I wouldn't have found him or the article any more credible even if he deemed the SGS2 the winner.
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****, I'm a Sensation owner and didn't find it credible.
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I have the Sensation now and not the SGS2. I would have read all that before release day in the US but I'm happy with my S4G and can't mess with that damn novel.
That review is from June which is probably why they said it was a pre-release ROM. It's probably a review unit they send all around.
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I have the Sensation now and not the SGS2. I would have read all that before release day in the US but I'm happy with my S4G and can't mess with that damn novel.
That review is from June which is probably why they said it was a pre-release ROM. It's probably a review unit they send all around.
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It still feels like a pre-release ROM. Does it not? Last time I checked, Sense is anything but smooth. I had to throw LP and ADW on the Sensation to make it feel like a dual core device.
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My sensation feels smooth even before the ota update. I did come from a windows mobile.
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Samsung is innovating with its hardware accelerated browsing and fast ass Exynos chip while HTC is releasing phones clearly not ready for mainstream use.
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Thank for your comments. For your better understanding HTC chip-set of 1.2 dual core and andreno 220 is far more better that SGS2's 1.2 dual core and 2008's Mali-400 chip-set. I used both the handsets and now using HTC Sensation after SGS2.
The main problem with htc is it's locked boot-loader and it's stock rom which is really not ready to use the full power.. The power is not equally distributed. Benchmark is not everything as sensation has issues with sense 3.0 and better pixels than the SGS2. Below is some link where you can understand the whole technical issues.
http://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-mali-400mp-gpu-and-vs-adreno-220-gpu/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1050968
So, saying HTC is releasing phones clearly not ready for mainstream use is not true. SGS2 is good as well as the HTC Sensation sometimes sensation is better. When HTC unlocked its boot-loader we all will see. Stay tuned without any bad comments.
jony013 said:
Thank for your comments. For your better understanding HTC chip-set of 1.2 dual core and andreno 220 is far more better that SGS2's 1.2 dual core and 2008's Mali-400 chip-set. I used both the handsets and now using HTC Sensation after SGS2.
The main problem with htc is it's locked boot-loader and it's stock rom which is really not ready to use the full power.. The power is not equally distributed. Benchmark is not everything as sensation has issues with sense 3.0 and better pixels than the SGS2. Below is some link where you can understand the whole technical issues.
http://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-mali-400mp-gpu-and-vs-adreno-220-gpu/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1050968
So, saying HTC is releasing phones clearly not ready for mainstream use is not true. SGS2 is good as well as the HTC Sensation sometimes sensation is better. When HTC unlocked its boot-loader we all will see. Stay tuned without any bad comments.
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Is not FAR more better. Samsung always has some of the best CPUs and GPUs in the mobile market which is why all there devices are always at the top in benchmarks. Bottom line. The GSII is more responsive than our Sensation.
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Is not FAR more better. Samsung always has some of the best CPUs and GPUs in the mobile market which is why all there devices are always at the top in benchmarks. Bottom line. The GSII is more responsive than our Sensation.
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Do you own a SGS2? Exactly how much more responsive is it in real world use from your personal experience? Right now to own one in the US you have to pay 2-3x the price of owning a Sensation, go without a US warranty, and use ATT's network. Or you could move to another country to own it. Is it that much more responsive?
Being theoretically better, having better benchmark numbers , or marginal real world responsiveness isn't the "bottom line" for everyone.
Now i wonder why all the ruckus over the gs2 seems like its not better in real life use. Only better on paper. I'm happy with what i got no problems no worries this phone fast enough for me .
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Samnada i agree the phone is useless in the us so why even compare . Is it worth 700 dollars to get a better quadrant score and to take uglier pictures. Samsung has beautiful screens but are made to damn cheap .
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Do you own a SGS2? Exactly how much more responsive is it in real world use from your personal experience? Right now to own one in the US you have to pay 2-3x the price of owning a Sensation, go without a US warranty, and use ATT's network. Or you could move to another country to own it. Is it that much more responsive?
Being theoretically better, having better benchmark numbers , or marginal real world responsiveness isn't the "bottom line" for everyone.
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No I do not own a GSII for one reason. I refuse to go without 3G and I refuse to give ATT my money. I could care less about the cost of the phone as it would be cheaper than the 2 phones combined I've purchased in the past 2 months. The Sensation and the G2X which I purchased off contract. I have 2 friends that are in ATT and use the GSII. I have played all the games I play on the Sensation on their GSII and the games run smoother on it. I don't doubt that the Adreno 220 is powerful enough to run all my games smoothly but I'm getting sick and tired of HTC releasing their products with half ass drivers.
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Samnada i agree the phone is useless in the us so why even compare . Is it worth 700 dollars to get a better quadrant score and to take uglier pictures. Samsung has beautiful screens but are made to damn cheap .
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You must not know what your talking about if you think it takes uglier pictures. It actually has a nicer camera than the Sensation and this reviewer stated so after he found out what settings to change. Yes the Sensation takes better pictures when both are on default settings but the GSII probably has the nicest camera on a phone after you play around with the settings. Not to mention its superior low light performance.
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I always loved N1 and DHD for the Sense UI and overall quality, I didn't buy a Sensation because mainly of root,death grip,speaker ringtones and screen under sunlight...
Ok!
Now that it finally got root (thanks for the devs) I still don't know if the other things can be dealt with:
-Death grip occur in which situations? putting the phone on the table will kill wifi?
-Can you ''really'' boot the volume of ringtones via volume+,Equaliser or DSP? or the results are the same as on N1 and DHD meaning just a high treble sound?
-I have read VERY DIFFERENT reports about the screen lisibility under sunlight, my ex-DHD was pratically not usable between 11am and 3pm outdoor, I know sgs2 can do better than Sensation but is it miles better or slightly better?
Of course people who used both phones (sgs2 and Sensation) can have the best answers
I have a sgs2 now and will be getting the sensation on wednesday. I will pm you on how both compares, if I post here it will turn into a flame thread in no time
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In answer to your deathgrip question, for me at least, putting in the phone on a table does not kill WiFi. Even putting it on something squishy like a cushion or pillow doesn't kill it Only covering it with your hand kills it really, and who holds their phone like that? That said, it is a slight problem when you hold it in landscape mode
Hey redbull good to see you again!
Did you try a speaker hacking tool like DSP manager? The result is the same as on N1 speaker?
And what about the camera compared to N1,DHD or even Arc?
I hate the pink camera spot on my sgs2, it was also there on DHD but when viewing it on PC it went off...but not with the sgs2 photos (its permanent)
Yeah, good to see you too!
The camera is quite good. No pink spot or anything, which is nice. One thing I have noticed, that when you zoom in, the pictures go slightly blurry. Not sure if this happens on other HTC's, but it's definitely apparent on my Sensation, at least. Could be software; I hope so, because then the CyanogenMod camera app will fix it
I'll try out a speaker hacking tool and report back
OK, so I've tried Audio Manager and Volume+ FREE and both appear to work fine. I've only used the free version of the apps, so you may want somebody who's bought the apps to try too Especially Volume+, with the EQ Settings in the paid version.
EDIT: Just tried Equalizer and that works too
Oh another thing that's annoying on sgs2: there is a lag between when you press the wake button and the screen going on.
Some dudes said it's normal since it's a dual cpu phone, is it the case with Sensation?
vegetaleb said:
Oh another thing that's annoying on sgs2: there is a lag between when you press the wake button and the screen going on.
Some dudes said it's normal since it's a dual cpu phone, is it the case with Sensation?
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Not that I know off. Right now I have CRT-Screen Animation On, because I'm waiting for mike1986 to make one with just the off animation. But as far as I know, there's no lag between pressing wake and it actually waking it up
I wonder how many people sawped their SGS2 to Sensation without any regrets...
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I have a sgs2 now and will be getting the sensation on wednesday. I will pm you on how both compares, if I post here it will turn into a flame thread in no time
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just post results here, I for one got me a new sgs2, and have ti decide wether keeping it or not aswell.
grtz
For everyday usability i would go for the sensation
i am not bothered if the sgs 2 can load an application a split second faster
Sensation: beutifully designed, aluminium, Sense 3D, Higher resolution
SGS2: UGLY! PLASTIC, Touchwiz (****wiz more like), lower resolution
yea aluminium is good but promotes death grip and what about the volume button falling off?
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For everyday usability i would go for the sensation
i am not bothered if the sgs 2 can load an application a split second faster
Sensation: beutifully designed, aluminium, Sense 3D, Higher resolution
SGS2: UGLY! PLASTIC, Touchwiz (****wiz more like), lower resolution
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Posts like that can start a flame war, be careful
Swyped from my HTC Sensation
I've always been a Sensation lover but I'll tell you what I feel honestly after using both the phones.
The Sensation is GREAT! It's my baby! The build quality is just perfect! Although the Gorilla glass isn't that powerful as compared to say Galaxy S's or Galaxy S2's I'm pretty sure about that. Other than that, the physical appearance and build quality is the best I guess! HTC excels in physical looks.
The Galaxy S2 is well, quite nicely designed but the quality .. Meh! Plastic? Seriously? Not good. What if it drops from the stairs or something, it'll break.
So we know that Sensation wins in the physical category.
Performance : You may be knowing that the Galaxy S2 is the fastest phone in the world. Well yes, I agree. But the prebuilt UI, touchwiz, is PATHETIC. It's probably the worst company rebuilt UI ever. Even LG's UI sucks. Sensation has sense 3.0 and it's AMAZING BUT if you will be flashing custom ROMS, I'd recommend the Galaxy S2. Galaxy S2 has a much better Dev support according to me as MANY devs have got it for free and many bought it as it's the fastest phone. Although I think Sensation can still beat it in many aspects.
So I'd go for the S2 in this category.
Hardware :
It is been told that the Sensation's hardware is much better as it is 2011's latest technology whereas the Galaxy S2 uses a 2009 or 08, I don't know chip. Although we can clearly see Galaxy S2 beats the Sensation in benchmarks results about which I really don't care. The Galaxy S2 has an nvidia Tegra 2 processor so that means you can get nvidia tegra games from the nvidia tegra marketplace or whatever it's called and SERRRRRRIOUSLY those games are AMAZING.
Other than that : Samsung vs. HTC? .. Umm, HTC DUH'UH.
About service center help and support : I'll go with Samsung (India)
About software update support : HTC, anyday. (So what if the bootloader is unlocked, they are working on it).
Both the phones are great.
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Hardware :
It is been told that the Sensation's hardware is much better as it is 2011's latest technology whereas the Galaxy S2 uses a 2009 or 08, I don't know chip. Although we can clearly see Galaxy S2 beats the Sensation in benchmarks results about which I really don't care. The Galaxy S2 has an nvidia Tegra 2 processor so that means you can get nvidia tegra games from the nvidia tegra marketplace or whatever it's called and SERRRRRRIOUSLY those games are AMAZING.
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SGS2 doesn't have tegra 2 chip, it comes with samsung's own exynos chip.
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I just switched from SGS2 to Sensation and so far more then happy. No more games crashing, no more color banding, no more pink spots on photos, no more stupid home button/wake lag, no more phone overheating, no more plastic feel, no more crappy music quality, no more Samsung in my life. Ever.
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SGS2 doesn't have tegra 2 chip, it comes with samsung's own exynos chip.
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Aaaaaaaaah okay my bad! how come it runs tegra games?
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I just switched from SGS2 to Sensation and so far more then happy. No more games crashing, no more color banding, no more pink spots on photos, no more stupid home button/wake lag, no more phone overheating, no more plastic feel, no more crappy music quality, no more Samsung in my life. Ever.
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haha happy to know! Enjoy the sensation! Just wait for cm7!
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Aaaaaaaaah okay my bad! how come it runs tegra games?
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Not a game player, but I guess with the help of open gl driver? Look for chainfire 3d App in market.
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SGS2: UGLY! PLASTIC, Touchwiz (****wiz more like), lower resolution
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6MM people would disagree with you.
is it better than GALAXY 2 ?
I WANT TO BUY ONE , WHAT DO U PREFER TO ME
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is it better than GALAXY 2 ?
I WANT TO BUY ONE , WHAT DO U PREFER TO ME
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Are you really asking that question on a sensation forum?
no , i am just kidding buddy
actually i would love to ask some one honest , that's why i am asking here
Well i'm not really in much of a positon to comment, as I have a Sensation!
If I were you i'd read all the reviews out there and have a play with both phones in the store, then make your mind up!
S2 anytime sensation is slow compared (had both) amd battery on sensation gets so hot its frightening . The s2 scores around 3500 on quadrant and the sensation around 2400 but its same processor that should tell you something. Also the screen on the s2 is nicer
There is one downfall with the s2 and thats the pink spot on the camera but software has sorted most problems out
If you get s2 you wont be disappointed I know I wasn't
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I have a sensation and a HD2.
Last weekend had the chance to play a couple of minutes with the GS2.
And one thing really got my attention.
The GS2 feels really really big!! I mean brick like big!
And I'm saying that when also owning a HD2 so I'm used to big phones
In all the reviews I've read, the consensus is the the GSII is marginally quicker, but is lacking in build quality. There is also the debate of SAMOLED+ vs qHD SLCD.
I have never been a fan of Samsung. HTC has yet to do me wrong.
Best advice I can give you is to find one of each and out them through their paces. Pick the one that you like more. Easy, right?
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The s2 scores around 3500 on quadrant and the sensation around 2400 but its same processor that should tell you something. Also the screen on the s2 is nicer
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It isn't the same chip, clock speed and the overall ARM architecture are the only similarities. Also, the Sensation is running a much higher pixel count, so will under-perform in comparison due to the extra graphical requirements.
These points above have been covered on this forum countless times before.
Both have there strengths and weaknesses. I have a Sensation but will probably buy a GSII once they release stateside. I love the look of Super AMOLED displays and believe it or not, I like Touch Wiz for the simple fact that its light weight and when I run ADW on top of it, you don't eveb know its running besides the fact, you get to keep some cool features from it such as swiping left and right on a contact to start a text message or call them. I also like Samsung as a whole. I have 4 Samsung LED TV's in my house and every one of them looks superb. My 4 Samsung LCD's prior to them all looked perfect as well and I never had a problem with them in the 5 years I owned them. I also like the fact that Samsung is innovating in multiple markets. They make the LED panels for Sony and then Sony slaps there name and a new menu onto the TV and over charges the **** out of it. When it comes to display technology, nobody can hold a candle to Samsung as they are leading that industry aswell. When it comes to mobile devices, Samsung has been leading in processing power since the debut of the Hummingbird. I like the fact how they design the phone from the ground up but most every other company just purchases genaric parts or parts from Samsung to complete there phones.
In the end, there both good phones but I don't like how HTC can't optimize their drivers for the life of them. They've been like that since Winmo. They also could have done a better job with Sense 3.0 but its obvious they didn't optimize that either.
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Samsung has the worse track record for pushing updates. If you don't believe me go check the epic 4g forums lol
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I'm not a big fan of samoled... colors are vibrant but look artificial.
not feeling the lower resolution as well.
any screen over 4" need to be qhd at the least.
I do wish in the near future these manufacturers get it through their heads and give us the ability to calibrate the screen.
anyway, both good phones.
can't really go wrong with either. just got to pick the one that fits your taste more.
I prefer the built quality, style/look of the Senny and I like Sense UI...
S2 seems to be a solid phone, minus the cheap feeling plastic case.
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Samsung has the worse track record for pushing updates. If you don't believe me go check the epic 4g forums lol
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Well the carriers are to be blamed there as well...sgs2 has been getting updates regularly and quickly. Check the sgs2 forums
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is it better than GALAXY 2 ?
I WANT TO BUY ONE , WHAT DO U PREFER TO ME
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Please, define "better"!
- faster?
- better housing?
- less weight?
- display resolution?
- battery lasts?
- ...
Get neither. Just wait a month or so and get the Samsung Hercules.
I am currently using T-Mobile G2X.
I am planning to jump ship to different phone.
My choice are HTC SENSATION and Samsung Galaxy R.
Can anybody point me to some benchmark that compares g2x with GB and sensation?
most of the comparisons done so far only with froyo g2x and GB sensation and sensation wins.
Moreover do you people find the battery capacity reasonable?
For dual core, 4.3" qhd screen having phone, isn't 1520 mah battery too tiny?
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I had o2x.. I am more happy with sensa ton.. Maybe because of more ram.
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I finally found it by my self.
nvidia tegra 2 is way faster than HTC sensation's processor in terms of benchmark result.
Moreover HTC sensation is the slowest dual core android mobile phone in terns of benchmark results .
But I have jumpshipped to it anyway.
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raddy said:
I finally found it by my self.
nvidia tegra 2 is way faster than HTC sensation's processor in terms of benchmark result.
Moreover HTC sensation is the slowest dual core android mobile phone in terns of benchmark results .
But I have jumpshipped to it anyway.
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That is without Hardware acceleration and stock tests.
I am referring the phonedog comparison of G2X and sensation.
In which they ran 3d benchmark against g2x running 2.2 and sensation runnning 2.3
Sensation got a score of 1900 and g2x got a score of 2300, if hardware acceleration may not be taken into account then it wont be for g2x also no?
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The benchmarks don't take into consideration dual cores and the fact that the Sensation is running Asynchronous cores.
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I think that Sensation shows bad benchmark results because of that crap heavy Sense ui. Qualcomm's s3 processor is quite powerful.
T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5KEtA-soIk&feature=related
T-Mobile (qualcomm) vs original Galaxy s2 (exynos): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5q6UrN_4Jw&feature=related
Samsung Galaxy S 2 HD LTE (this phone has 720p screen): http://www.youtube.com/watch?nomobile=1&v=N6ATGeXkUFI
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And benchmarks don't mean you-know-what.
Slowest dual core? lolno.
Ive only been here a couple of months. Ive gathered quite a bit reading all these forums. Ive read up on stuff like these elsewhere. Ive also played around with a LOT of phones. And by playing around I dont mean the 15 mins in a shop opening apps and checking camera of different phones before you buy them. My friends have pretty good phones (O2X, GS2, GS, Desire HD, O3D, Xperia arc, neo etc)
Ive done almost everything there is to do on those phones and always I end up glad I have my sensation. Looks - hands down winner. Sexiest phone ever, tied with the arc imo. Its no slouch. Benchmarks? I get **** high scores on custom ROMS. After I proved it, I uninstalled the apps from my phone cos they meant nothing. People are always gonna claim their phone is better and cos an app gave them a coloured bar with a nice big number, its way faster. Trust me, you're gonna be glad you got a senny. (Unless its defective of course) S2 feels like crap, runs at the same speed mine does if not seemingly slower and the screen is tough to work with. (SAMOLED? lol not as cool as it claims to be) and its less responsive than mine. Im happier with my sensation than I would have been with any other phone in almost EVERY aspect. The xperia Live's speaker volume has me a bit jealous but thats about it. I use earphones anyway. G2X feels awful. I cant work with it. Ever. And the camera on the senny blows the others outta the water. With the crap HTC drivers and the asynchronous system, the senny is bloody amazing and can easily easily keep up with any phone and beat the crap out of most. Wait till ICS. Proper ICS.
Ok end of rant. If anyone says your phone is the slowest dual core - laugh. Then walk away
Oh and all the websites that review phones.. I relied on them quite a bit myself. Trusted the pics of benchmarks they put up and read how they reviewed phones and took tiny little things like the 2MP FFC on the S2 and worshipped it, etc etc. 90% of those sites have no idea what theyre talking about. Any phone with the bigger MHz clock speed on the box is faster. .7MP more FFC is holyshishkebab. phone is .3mm slimmer! OH MY GOD! Thats the basic idea. Dont trust that. Do your own research.
Now - actual end of rant.
Thanks for your rant, as even I am now owning a sensation too.
I am an avid fan of Htc sense ui,
I didn't know any other strength of HTC sensation before reading your post.
Eventhough g2x is more slimmer than sensation, in look wise sensation is class apart from any android Mobile phone and can be comparable only with Sony Ericsson xperia arc and iPhone
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