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HTC Sensation is better than SGS2

HTC chip-set of 1.2 dual core and andreno 220 is far more better that SGS2's 1.2 dual core and 2008's Mali-400 chip-set. I used both the handsets and now using HTC Sensation after SGS2.
The main problem with HTC is it's locked boot-loader and it's stock rom which is really not ready to use the full power.. The power is not equally distributed. Benchmark is not everything as sensation has issues with sense 3.0 and better pixels than the SGS2. Below is some link where you can understand the whole technical issues.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1050968
http://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-mali-400mp-gpu-and-vs-adreno-220-gpu/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1169376

The Exysnos processor is better than the Dual Core Snapdragon just like the Hummingbird was better than the single core Snapdragon. Just be happy with your Sensation and stop trying to justify your purchase. Once the Sensation becomes as smooth as the GSII then we can talk bench marks but for right now during every day real world use, the GSII feels faster. Not to mention the GSII brings hardware acceleration to the browser. Something our Qualcom can't do.
By the way...Error 404 on both links.
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I prefer the sensation to sgs2 regardless of benchmarks or performence, mostly because of sense and nicer aesthetics
But I do have one concern, if you got to system/lib/egl, all the libs say adreno 200, could that be affecting performance?
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Actually the OP is right about the adreno 220 being better than the mali 400. The difference is the way samsung optimized the performance of their GPU with drivers and such. But for what the GPU can do spec wise, adreno 220 is superior. Too bad htc did not do a good job of showcasing that.

jrwingate6 said:
The Exysnos processor is better than the Dual Core Snapdragon just like the Hummingbird was better than the single core Snapdragon. Just be happy with your Sensation and stop trying to justify your purchase. Once the Sensation becomes as smooth as the GSII then we can talk bench marks but for right now during every day real world use, the GSII feels faster. Not to mention the GSII brings hardware acceleration to the browser. Something our Qualcom can't do.
By the way...Error 404 on both links.
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Thanks for your reply, I updated those link. Now you will know what you said is not true. I am not justifying anything, True will be true. SGS2 is overclocked to 1.2 by samsung and its all software issues which is, what makes the benchmark result great. Main thing is Other than the GL benchmark, all benchmarking soft is not up to date for the sensation. As its use console-quality 3D graphics and high-end effects such as vertex skinning, full-screen post-processing shader effects, dynamic lighting with full-screen alpha blending, real-time cloth simulation, advanced shader effects like dynamic shadows, god rays, bump mapping.

I trialed one on ATT...and: No its not...(unfortunately)

I think both phones need a cyanogen 2.3.4 rom and then we can see how they perform against each other..sadly for us sensation owners... August couldn't come any quicker lol.
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jony013 said:
Thanks for your reply, I updated those link. Now you will know what you said is not true. I am not justifying anything, True will be true. SGS2 is overclocked to 1.2 by samsung and its all software issues which is, what makes the benchmark result great. Main thing is Other than the GL benchmark, all benchmarking soft is not up to date for the sensation. As its use console-quality 3D graphics and high-end effects such as vertex skinning, full-screen post-processing shader effects, dynamic lighting with full-screen alpha blending, real-time cloth simulation, advanced shader effects like dynamic shadows, god rays, bump mapping.
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Let me ask you something. If the Adreno is so good then why does HomeRun Battle 3D lag sometimes on my Sensation but never lagged once on my Tegra II powered G2X. I could care less about benchmarks or how Samsung is reaching the high numbers. What matters more to me is real world use. I could also care less if Samsung or HTC optimized there processors better than the other. Bottom line. Both of them should be optimized for best performance upon mass release. HTC always has problems with there drivers and quite frankly, the Adreno 220 could be 10 times better than the Mali or the Tegra II but if it doesn't have the software to back it up then its no good to me or you. By the time we get root or better drivers, Tegra III will be out smoking everything in its path including the Adreno 220.
By the way, the Adreno may be better than the Mali but the Snapdragon is very much inferior to the Exynos which is more powerful when it comes to raw processing power. I wish HTC would just ditch Qualcom all together because TI and Samsung continue to **** all over them.
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psn1819 said:
I think both phones need a cyanogen 2.3.4 rom and then we can see how they perform against each other..sadly for us sensation owners... August couldn't come any quicker lol.
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It will not be August/September for the Sensation. Yes it will be unlocked but that is when the custom rom process begins. It will be weeks to months later before you get any stable releases of everything.

The final product Samsung has provided in the Galaxy S II appears to be significantly faster than what HTC provides in the Sensation. I do not use the individual parts of my phone. I use the final product. So whoever optimized what does not matter to me as much as what I see on the screen and hold in my hand.
I prefer the Sensation right now. That is also what I own. The phone before that was the G2x and I liked that one as well...I preferred it to the Galaxy S 4g and the MyTouch 4g. Before that I had a preference for GS 4g...and it goes on from there. I buy the phones I prefer. It is kinda funny to see people defend the smartphone they bought as though they designed and built it themselves.
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pinhead said:
The final product Samsung has provided in the Galaxy S II appears to be significantly faster than what HTC provides in the Sensation. I do not use the individual parts of my phone. I use the final product. So whoever optimized what does not matter to me as much as what I see on the screen and hold in my hand.
I prefer the Sensation right now. That is also what I own. The phone before that was the G2x and I liked that one as well...I preferred it to the Galaxy S 4g and the MyTouch 4g. Before that I had a preference for GS 4g...and it goes on from there. I buy the phones I prefer. It is kinda funny to see people defend the smartphone they bought as though they designed and built it themselves.
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Exactly, I buy whatever phone I like and right now I use a Sensation and a G2X. I think the Sensation is better than the G2X but I think the GSII is better than the Sensation and I'm not affraid to admit that just because I own the Sensation. If people think the Sensation is better than the GSII then they think the Sensation is the best Android phone available right now since almost every review I've read labels the GSII the best Android device to date. In fact, 9 out of 10 reviews state the GSII took Android to the next level but I haven't read any review stating the Sensation took it to the next level. Maybe if HTC would have released it with optimized drivers we would see reviews stating such.
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I am considering getting rid of the sensation due to it getting far to hot, I understand a dual core should put out more heat and its passively cooled but it shouldnt get any where near as hot as it does... I sold my sgs because of how terrible the flashing process is and if i didnt have the efs folder backed up I would of lost my imei

anarchyuk said:
I am considering getting rid of the sensation due to it getting far to hot, I understand a dual core should put out more heat and its passively cooled but it shouldnt get any where near as hot as it does... I sold my sgs because of how terrible the flashing process is and if i didnt have the efs folder backed up I would of lost my imei
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My Sensation gets extremely hot when playing Homerun Battle 3D and my G2X gets no where near as hot when playing the same game. In fact, after playing for 30 minutes it gets so hot that sometimes my screen becomes unresponsive to touch but the accelerometer still works. I think its definitely a driver issue but something shouldn't be getting so hot that it renders the phone useless.
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anarchyuk said:
I am considering getting rid of the sensation due to it getting far to hot, I understand a dual core should put out more heat and its passively cooled but it shouldnt get any where near as hot as it does... I sold my sgs because of how terrible the flashing process is and if i didnt have the efs folder backed up I would of lost my imei
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I would imagine the heat you're talking about might be the battery not as much as the cpu.
I got my "1900mAh" Anker battery a few days ago and I can confirm, as others have in the Anker thread, that it doesn't get anywhere near as hot as it did with the OEM battery.
The easiest test for me was Angry Birds..... 30-45 min with stock battery, 45c avrg. Very hot to hold, even through my case. This Anker....28c avrg. Barley warm...huge difference.
No matter if the numbers are correct, one thing is for sure....I no longer feel ANY excessive heat even with prolonged heavy use.
If heat is why you'd get rid of your Sensation, spend 10 bones and get a new battery. Cheap and stays cool and lasts way longer

That site is funny.
"These benchmark tests shows that Tegra 2 takes the lead over Exynos in almost every category. Specially, this is especially true for mobile gaming."
Looks like everything is better than Exynos.
But you are wrong, sensation is weak.

jrwingate6 said:
Let me ask you something. If the Adreno is so good then why does HomeRun Battle 3D lag sometimes on my Sensation but never lagged once on my Tegra II powered G2X. I could care less about benchmarks or how Samsung is reaching the high numbers. What matters more to me is real world use. I could also care less if Samsung or HTC optimized there processors better than the other. Bottom line. Both of them should be optimized for best performance upon mass release. HTC always has problems with there drivers and quite frankly, the Adreno 220 could be 10 times better than the Mali or the Tegra II but if it doesn't have the software to back it up then its no good to me or you. By the time we get root or better drivers, Tegra III will be out smoking everything in its path including the Adreno 220.
By the way, the Adreno may be better than the Mali but the Snapdragon is very much inferior to the Exynos which is more powerful when it comes to raw processing power. I wish HTC would just ditch Qualcom all together because TI and Samsung continue to **** all over them.
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Sounds to me your phone is syncing in the background

Hey people!! This reminds to me, old times with the HTC HD2 ( quetly brillant )
jajajaja yea yea... just quietly brillant... with the optimized drivers!

I have to laugh at all these banchmarks between the two...they aren't exactly valid.
The Sensation has a higher res screen that is has to push...which obviously means it has more work to do....it's not a fair comparison.
And in any case...benchmarks mean nothing to me...I chose to buy the Sensation because it looks so much better than the GS2, it has a better interface in Sense 3, and it's HTC

DazzXP said:
Sounds to me your phone is syncing in the background
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My device syncs nothing but gmail. I have everything off including the HTC weather. I wouldn't even call my Gmail syncing since I'm using the Gmail app which uses push.
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Hoggles said:
I would imagine the heat you're talking about might be the battery not as much as the cpu.
I got my "1900mAh" Anker battery a few days ago and I can confirm, as others have in the Anker thread, that it doesn't get anywhere near as hot as it did with the OEM battery.
The easiest test for me was Angry Birds..... 30-45 min with stock battery, 45c avrg. Very hot to hold, even through my case. This Anker....28c avrg. Barley warm...huge difference.
No matter if the numbers are correct, one thing is for sure....I no longer feel ANY excessive heat even with prolonged heavy use.
If heat is why you'd get rid of your Sensation, spend 10 bones and get a new battery. Cheap and stays cool and lasts way longer
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My Sensation doesn't get hot near the battery. It gets hot at the very bottom where all of the internals are.
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should i buy the sensation ???

hello
i want buy a new android phone in my birthday
is there 3 phones in my mind..SGS2,MyTouch Slide 4G and Sensation
which one have better camera ??
which one have better battery life ??
1GB stroge is that real problem ??

buy sensation

buy sensation

What do you expect from a sensation forum.
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Good answer lol
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What do you expect from a sensation forum.
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yep, another happy Sensation user.
With a few minor changes (New ROM) and JuiceDefender, my battery now last at least 3 times as long.
So, yes, buy a Sensation

Gooo Forrr itttt! Happy Flashing!

which one have better camera sensation or sgs2 ?
which one have better natural colors sensation or iphone 4 ??

Lol. The iphone screen is tiny. Sgs has slightly better hardware but touchwiz is even ****tier than sense and Samsung phones just feel cheap. Sensation feels like an executive phone. 1 gb is more than enough for all the apps you could want. I have about 100 apps installed and have filled less than half of it.
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which one is faster..1.2GHz Dual Core Snapdragon or 1.2GHz Dual Core Exynos ??
how much ram available in sensation ?? with and without sense 3.0

Hard to say what's faster without comparing them both on exactly the same ROM. I've heard that the Snapdragon has slightly more brute force than the Exynos (45 MFLOPS on the Exynos, compared to 46 on the Snapdragon).
If I can find someone with a Galaxy S2, I'm going to put both phones on CM7 and run a series of benchmarks on them. That'll really show us what's faster.

redbullcat said:
Hard to say what's faster without comparing them both on exactly the same ROM. I've heard that the Snapdragon has slightly more brute force than the Exynos (45 MFLOPS on the Exynos, compared to 46 on the Snapdragon).
If I can find someone with a Galaxy S2, I'm going to put both phones on CM7 and run a series of benchmarks on them. That'll really show us what's faster.
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that's nice but sensation screen 540 x 960 !! CPU will take more from screen

Buy the upcoming Hercules. The galaxy s 2 is supposed to be the best android phone. The sensation is good, but the galaxy s2 is just flat out better.

i know SGS2 is better but for me i think sensation is better because i love the design and 540 x 960..but which camera is better sensation or SGS2 ?

Go for sensation
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-juanito- said:
which one is faster..1.2GHz Dual Core Snapdragon or 1.2GHz Dual Core Exynos ??
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Exynos is faster at the same clock speed, simply because the A9 is a better architecture than the Scorpion.
barondebxl said:
Buy the upcoming Hercules. The galaxy s 2 is supposed to be the best android phone. The sensation is good, but the galaxy s2 is just flat out better.
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The Hercules will have the same processor as the Sensation (well, all the info points to that so far).

Seriously?!?! You would ask that question in the Sensation forum. I don't believe any of us here would purchase a phone of this type without proper thought given.
Find an iPhone forum and ask them which they think is better, I'm sure you can guess what they would say.
In the end you have to decide which features are most important to you and then match that up with a phone that provides those features.
There's no such thing as a perfect phone although in my opinion the Sensation comes damn close.
-juanito- said:
hello
i want buy a new android phone in my birthday
is there 3 phones in my mind..SGS2,MyTouch Slide 4G and Sensation
which one have better camera ??
which one have better battery life ??
1GB stroge is that real problem ??
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The camera on the HTC sensation is quite good in my opinion. And I'm very impressed with the 1080 p recording. Now I own a sensation 4g but I will sell it for the Hercules because, my personal experience, sense lags and considering this is a 1.2 Ghz dual core nothing should lag on this phone. Sense is very nice no question about that, but it's a heavy UI and it clearly slows down the phone. But the Qhd resolution on the phone is excellent, the build of the phone is unique and sexy and it is HTC so those are the pros for me. Cons are that the phone isnt as fast as other dual core smartphones, the speaker is pretty much useless and more ram would have been great considering sense takes a lot of it. But there's already S-off for the sensation so if you want to root and install custom ROMs than you should be fine, but then again you could do the same on the Hercules except you would have better hardware. I can talk all day, but at the end it's just a matter of what you're looking for. I want speed speed and more speed and unfortunately the sensation isn't speedy enough for me.

Buy the damn thing

Definitely buy a sensation, perfect phone since s-off is out.

Is the Incredible S a better phone than the Galaxy S?

If you had the choice between the SGS 1 and the Incredible S, what would you pick and why?

The incredible has a better cpu the galaxy s has a better gpu. In day to day use they will be around the same performance, it just comes down to wether you like sense or touchwiz and which hardware you like more. I'd go for the incredible because the cpu is a lot more overclockable and the build quality is better in my opinion.

Not a simole answer
Depends. I hate sense a lot more than touchwiz so the sgs is better for me in that regard. People say HTC has better build quality but I prefer the plastic cases Samsung use as they are lighter and actually protect the phone more if dropped. I also think the sgs has a nicer screen. HTC however it seems the sgs won't officially get ICS, not sure about the incredible s.
I would get the sgs of the two but in reality I wouldn't get either now. I would buy either the galaxy nexus or sgs2 if I wanted something cheaper.

sgs by far
I'd have 2 go with the galaxy s,even though the incredible s might have a better CPU,the 1 in the galaxy s is still fast enough and because the CPU is better,be graphics and quality r very high and allow u 2 play games like modern combat 3 and real racing 2 which require very high GPUs,Ive been using a galaxy s 4 about 3 or 4 months and this phone has impreesed me a lot

Incredible s is better device but bootloader is locked and better roms , kernels, support for galaxy s .

BHuvan goyal said:
Incredible s is better device but bootloader is locked and better roms , kernels, support for galaxy s .
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No way! Galaxy S or Nexus S is best single core phone with Powervr540!
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Really? PLEASE search for Adriano 205 it is better than one in GS I
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SGS because:
GPU
Screen
Unlocked bootloader
Odin and Heimdall - this alone is pretty big
Durability - almost unbreakable and don't need cases and screen protectors
Ability to play almost every video format

polthong said:
Really? PLEASE search for Adriano 205 it is better than one in GS I
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Adreno ?

adelmundo said:
SGS because:
GPU
Screen
Unlocked bootloader
Odin and Heimdall - this alone is pretty big
Durability - almost unbreakable and don't need cases and screen protectors
Ability to play almost every video format
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I think that last one is about true for any modern android device with the right application

JJbdoggg said:
The incredible has a better cpu the galaxy s has a better gpu. In day to day use they will be around the same performance, it just comes down to wether you like sense or touchwiz and which hardware you like more. I'd go for the incredible because the cpu is a lot more overclockable and the build quality is better in my opinion.
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couldnt have agreed more. had friends ive known using incredible S n SGS n more incredible s users were more pleased with their device compared to those using SGS

adelmundo said:
SGS because:
GPU
Screen
Unlocked bootloader
Odin and Heimdall - this alone is pretty big
Durability - almost unbreakable and don't need cases and screen protectors
Ability to play almost every video format
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when sgs has a lot of better things than incredible s I don't understand why sgs so very lag and sluggish both a browser and all of transitions when I use my girlfriends aha eventhogh I installed Cm7, darky ROM and so on. It is slower than my stock ROM on inspire 4g.
PS even I try voodoo to convert partition file type but nothing to improve speed the best case I found it fast for one week after that it return to sluggish as I used to.
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both of them are good phones
but i like p990 more

If you don't mind the software(Sense vs touchwiz), I'd say go with the Incredible S, Because:
CPU Wise : the MSM8250 is better more overclockable and more efficient than the Hummingbird
GPU: in terms of 3D the SGX540 might tops the Adreno 205 but the Adreno has better 2D performance, and better efficiency but with either you can't go wrong
Built quality, being an HTC the Incredible S is a better quality product than the SGSI, better material used and industrial feel (but if you are someone that cares about weight and don't mind the plastic the SGS might better for you)
Screen, being a recent generation SLCD with full RGB I'd say the screen on the Incredible is better, but again if you are someone that don't mind the visible Pentil and like vibrant colors over realistic ones the SGS screen would be better for you
Ram the IS has 768mb vs the 512mb on the SGSI
And deal breaker for me, is that the IS is a newer device than the SGSI there is almost a year difference between both device, despite the IS being a middle end device it meens it will get more support than the SGSI it is sad because some people just brought new variants of the SGSI that just came out some month ago and samsung already said they are coming with one last update for the SGSI (because people got mad ) and it will be a gingerbread skined with some ICS elements on top, where as the IS might get the ICS, in fact, IS got a recent update to 2.3.5 + sense 3.0 which is the latest software used on HTC devices (appart the decices that came with sense 3.5)
Edit: I forgot to mention that the SGSI had some issues in it debut, if you are someone that relies on A-GPS on your phone you'd better not get any closer to the SGSI

Incredible s!!!!!!
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Incredible S win with Sense!

Definitely would have to agree with the Incredible S, just knowing it's a little more matured than a SGSI.

Just get a Galaxy S2 and be done with it! ATT's got refurbs now for $9.99, you really cant beat that..

Galaxy s is better because it has better support for developers
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Based on my experience with my Captivate and my dad's Inspire, I would recommend the galaxy S, unless GPS is important to you.

Is the processor comparable with nVidia tegra 2

I am currently using T-Mobile G2X.
I am planning to jump ship to different phone.
My choice are HTC SENSATION and Samsung Galaxy R.
Can anybody point me to some benchmark that compares g2x with GB and sensation?
most of the comparisons done so far only with froyo g2x and GB sensation and sensation wins.
Moreover do you people find the battery capacity reasonable?
For dual core, 4.3" qhd screen having phone, isn't 1520 mah battery too tiny?
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I had o2x.. I am more happy with sensa ton.. Maybe because of more ram.
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I finally found it by my self.
nvidia tegra 2 is way faster than HTC sensation's processor in terms of benchmark result.
Moreover HTC sensation is the slowest dual core android mobile phone in terns of benchmark results .
But I have jumpshipped to it anyway.
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raddy said:
I finally found it by my self.
nvidia tegra 2 is way faster than HTC sensation's processor in terms of benchmark result.
Moreover HTC sensation is the slowest dual core android mobile phone in terns of benchmark results .
But I have jumpshipped to it anyway.
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That is without Hardware acceleration and stock tests.

I am referring the phonedog comparison of G2X and sensation.
In which they ran 3d benchmark against g2x running 2.2 and sensation runnning 2.3
Sensation got a score of 1900 and g2x got a score of 2300, if hardware acceleration may not be taken into account then it wont be for g2x also no?
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The benchmarks don't take into consideration dual cores and the fact that the Sensation is running Asynchronous cores.
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I think that Sensation shows bad benchmark results because of that crap heavy Sense ui. Qualcomm's s3 processor is quite powerful.
T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5KEtA-soIk&feature=related
T-Mobile (qualcomm) vs original Galaxy s2 (exynos): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5q6UrN_4Jw&feature=related
Samsung Galaxy S 2 HD LTE (this phone has 720p screen): http://www.youtube.com/watch?nomobile=1&v=N6ATGeXkUFI
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And benchmarks don't mean you-know-what.

Slowest dual core? lolno.
Ive only been here a couple of months. Ive gathered quite a bit reading all these forums. Ive read up on stuff like these elsewhere. Ive also played around with a LOT of phones. And by playing around I dont mean the 15 mins in a shop opening apps and checking camera of different phones before you buy them. My friends have pretty good phones (O2X, GS2, GS, Desire HD, O3D, Xperia arc, neo etc)
Ive done almost everything there is to do on those phones and always I end up glad I have my sensation. Looks - hands down winner. Sexiest phone ever, tied with the arc imo. Its no slouch. Benchmarks? I get **** high scores on custom ROMS. After I proved it, I uninstalled the apps from my phone cos they meant nothing. People are always gonna claim their phone is better and cos an app gave them a coloured bar with a nice big number, its way faster. Trust me, you're gonna be glad you got a senny. (Unless its defective of course) S2 feels like crap, runs at the same speed mine does if not seemingly slower and the screen is tough to work with. (SAMOLED? lol not as cool as it claims to be) and its less responsive than mine. Im happier with my sensation than I would have been with any other phone in almost EVERY aspect. The xperia Live's speaker volume has me a bit jealous but thats about it. I use earphones anyway. G2X feels awful. I cant work with it. Ever. And the camera on the senny blows the others outta the water. With the crap HTC drivers and the asynchronous system, the senny is bloody amazing and can easily easily keep up with any phone and beat the crap out of most. Wait till ICS. Proper ICS.
Ok end of rant. If anyone says your phone is the slowest dual core - laugh. Then walk away
Oh and all the websites that review phones.. I relied on them quite a bit myself. Trusted the pics of benchmarks they put up and read how they reviewed phones and took tiny little things like the 2MP FFC on the S2 and worshipped it, etc etc. 90% of those sites have no idea what theyre talking about. Any phone with the bigger MHz clock speed on the box is faster. .7MP more FFC is holyshishkebab. phone is .3mm slimmer! OH MY GOD! Thats the basic idea. Dont trust that. Do your own research.
Now - actual end of rant.

Thanks for your rant, as even I am now owning a sensation too.
I am an avid fan of Htc sense ui,
I didn't know any other strength of HTC sensation before reading your post.
Eventhough g2x is more slimmer than sensation, in look wise sensation is class apart from any android Mobile phone and can be comparable only with Sony Ericsson xperia arc and iPhone
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Desire S vs Sensation XL

based on gsmarena the desire s and sensation xl has the same cpu and everything. The only difference is that the sensation xl has a better camera and a larger screen. Why is the sensation xl getting ics but not us. Seems kinda selfish on htc's part for just updating new phones and not our sorta getting old phone.

I know mate.
I thought of that quite a while ago...
Shame on HTC
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Hopefully people like us will protest and perhaps the miracle of "HTC desire gingerbread" will happen again

freedompie said:
based on gsmarena the desire s and sensation xl has the same cpu and everything. The only difference is that the sensation xl has a better camera and a larger screen. Why is the sensation xl getting ics but not us. Seems kinda selfish on htc's part for just updating new phones and not our sorta getting old phone.
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I thought the sensation xl had a 1.5 Ghz Scorpion processor in contrast to our 1ghz Snapdragon... what makes you think the "cpu and everything" is same as the desire s?
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Yes pal, HTC should learn from their own journey!
Because of our DS that's why HTC became the fast company on 2011, so they should listen to their fan's voice.
I would suggest to HTC's guys out at the top level to consider the ICS plan to DS.

enigmaamit said:
I thought the sensation xl had a 1.5 Ghz Scorpion processor in contrast to our 1ghz Snapdragon... what makes you think the "cpu and everything" is same as the desire s?
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Snapdragon is the chipset, Scorpion is the CPU. Both phones have the same chipset, the XL is simply clocked higher, and the DS can easily run stable at 1.5 GHz.

djsubtronic said:
Snapdragon is the chipset, Scorpion is the CPU. Both phones have the same chipset, the XL is simply clocked higher, and the DS can easily run stable at 1.5 GHz.
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Alright... that's nice to know.
So you mean that HTC just took the desire s chipset and decided to overclock it and call it 1.5Ghz? I'm not questioning your knowledge, just trying to increase mine!
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enigmaamit said:
Alright... that's nice to know.
So you mean that HTC just took the desire s chipset and decided to overclock it and call it 1.5Ghz? I'm not questioning your knowledge, just trying to increase mine!
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It's the way CPU manufacturing works. The frequency doesn't matter. For example Intel Core 2 Duo "merom" chip, whether it's 2 Ghz or 2.8 Ghz, the chip is the same but due to the way they are manufactured, there may be small physical differences, which means some can reach 2.8 Ghz without a problem whereas others only reach 2.2 Ghz.
That's why some people with the exact same CPU are able to overclock higher than others, they just got a slightly 'better' chip.

djsubtronic said:
It's the way CPU manufacturing works. The frequency doesn't matter. For example Intel Core 2 Duo "merom" chip, whether it's 2 Ghz or 2.8 Ghz, the chip is the same but due to the way they are manufactured, there may be small physical differences, which means some can reach 2.8 Ghz without a problem whereas others only reach 2.2 Ghz.
That's why some people with the exact same CPU are able to overclock higher than others, they just got a slightly 'better' chip.
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So there are physical differences? Actual manufacturing differences that translate into different real world performance ...? And they make some processors more capable than others from the same family right? That's all I wanted to know. Thanks.
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enigmaamit said:
So there are physical differences? Actual manufacturing differences that translate into different real world performance ...? And they make some processors more capable than others from the same family right? That's all I wanted to know. Thanks.
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Chips within a family are all made with the same manufacturing process. You then test them and separate the better performers, and label them differently. So they have the same chip, but in the sensation, Qualcomm guarantees stable operation at 1.5GHz. The same is not true for the cpus used in the desire S.
Saying that the Desire S can easily run at 1.5GHz is misleading. Some may, many may not. And the testing is way more exhaustive than simple clock frequency.
Another thing you must understand is the concept of stability. If you have a chip that can run at 1.5GHz, and crashes once every 2 weeks, it would be rejected for the sensation. Different customers will have different quality constraints, it's all a deal with the chip manufacturers, you buy what you want.
This topic is much more complex than this. For reference, I worked 3 years in test engineering of dram chips, the concept was exactly the same.
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Compared to the specs , the Sensation XL is insanely priced !!!
Samsung's Galaxy Note is cheaper as compared to the Sensation XL....

lowveld said:
Saying that the Desire S can easily run at 1.5GHz is misleading. Some may, many may not. And the testing is way more exhaustive than simple clock frequency.
This topic is much more complex than this. For reference, I worked 3 years in test engineering of dram chips, the concept was exactly the same.
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Thanks buddy.
Had a hunch HTC wouldn't just OC the Desire chipset and sell it as a 1.5 gig CPU. Can't be that simple. Kind of you to explain it clearly. Just came out of the theater and was about to pound google and wikipedia for further information, when i saw your post. Saved me some time for other mischief on xda!!

freedompie said:
based on gsmarena the desire s and sensation xl has the same cpu and everything. The only difference is that the sensation xl has a better camera and a larger screen. Why is the sensation xl getting ics but not us. Seems kinda selfish on htc's part for just updating new phones and not our sorta getting old phone.
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I think chipset may be main cause. Sensation xl has Qualcomm MSM8260 Snapdragon where desire s Qualcomm MSM8255 Snapdragon

sagarda7 said:
I think chipset may be main cause. Sensation xl has Qualcomm MSM8260 Snapdragon where desire s Qualcomm MSM8255 Snapdragon
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Incorrect. 8260 is dual core
Both Desire S and XL have 8255 CPU.
But the XL is 8255T.
8255T stands for a batch of CPU's that have been extensively tested to withstand higher clockspeeds .
hence this is why our phones are very capable at OC.
So there are still the same
Source: HTC and Qualcomm themselves via emails. (from other XDA members etc)
I was interested in this too, so I did my research.
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lowveld said:
Chips within a family are all made with the same manufacturing process. You then test them and separate the better performers, and label them differently. So they have the same chip, but in the sensation, Qualcomm guarantees stable operation at 1.5GHz. The same is not true for the cpus used in the desire S.
Saying that the Desire S can easily run at 1.5GHz is misleading. Some may, many may not. And the testing is way more exhaustive than simple clock frequency.
Another thing you must understand is the concept of stability. If you have a chip that can run at 1.5GHz, and crashes once every 2 weeks, it would be rejected for the sensation. Different customers will have different quality constraints, it's all a deal with the chip manufacturers, you buy what you want.
This topic is much more complex than this. For reference, I worked 3 years in test engineering of dram chips, the concept was exactly the same.
Cheers
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Hi lowveld,
Is it possible to port camera driver from sensation xl to desire s for ICS? Because endymion has beats audio.

NO! Please do some research before talking. The sensation XL doesn't even have a proper working ICS build let alone have a working camera
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I am SHOCKED. I thought it had a different processor altogether, not the same thing, just OC'd. That would explain the huge preference of XL ROMs over the regular sensation, that would be easier to port
The processor is different, but only slightly. There isn't much difference between the 8255 and 8255T. The main difference is in battery, DS has 1450 mAH and Sensation XL has 1600 mAH. Higher clock speed = More battery drain
HTC is really bad with updates, our phone was the first HTC Gingerbread device, and it won't get ICS. It's not even a year old yet Specially when a similar device gets it

shrome99 said:
I am SHOCKED. I thought it had a different processor altogether, not the same thing, just OC'd. That would explain the huge preference of XL ROMs over the regular sensation, that would be easier to port
The processor is different, but only slightly. There isn't much difference between the 8255 and 8255T. The main difference is in battery, DS has 1450 mAH and Sensation XL has 1600 mAH. Higher clock speed = More battery drain
HTC is really bad with updates, our phone was the first HTC Gingerbread device, and it won't get ICS. It's not even a year old yet Specially when a similar device gets it
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I know I'm appalled my HTC
I really do hope we are the second wave of devices to get announced with ICS although that seems unlikely
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But I notice this to, I overclocked DS to 1.4 in ics cm9 and it works fluidly. But there can say why we don't get sense 3.5 and ics! HTC fault
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Guys do you think it will be possible to port ics once xl gets ics...waiting for ics Rom for xl
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