based on gsmarena the desire s and sensation xl has the same cpu and everything. The only difference is that the sensation xl has a better camera and a larger screen. Why is the sensation xl getting ics but not us. Seems kinda selfish on htc's part for just updating new phones and not our sorta getting old phone.
I know mate.
I thought of that quite a while ago...
Shame on HTC
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Hopefully people like us will protest and perhaps the miracle of "HTC desire gingerbread" will happen again
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based on gsmarena the desire s and sensation xl has the same cpu and everything. The only difference is that the sensation xl has a better camera and a larger screen. Why is the sensation xl getting ics but not us. Seems kinda selfish on htc's part for just updating new phones and not our sorta getting old phone.
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I thought the sensation xl had a 1.5 Ghz Scorpion processor in contrast to our 1ghz Snapdragon... what makes you think the "cpu and everything" is same as the desire s?
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Yes pal, HTC should learn from their own journey!
Because of our DS that's why HTC became the fast company on 2011, so they should listen to their fan's voice.
I would suggest to HTC's guys out at the top level to consider the ICS plan to DS.
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I thought the sensation xl had a 1.5 Ghz Scorpion processor in contrast to our 1ghz Snapdragon... what makes you think the "cpu and everything" is same as the desire s?
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Snapdragon is the chipset, Scorpion is the CPU. Both phones have the same chipset, the XL is simply clocked higher, and the DS can easily run stable at 1.5 GHz.
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Snapdragon is the chipset, Scorpion is the CPU. Both phones have the same chipset, the XL is simply clocked higher, and the DS can easily run stable at 1.5 GHz.
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Alright... that's nice to know.
So you mean that HTC just took the desire s chipset and decided to overclock it and call it 1.5Ghz? I'm not questioning your knowledge, just trying to increase mine!
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Alright... that's nice to know.
So you mean that HTC just took the desire s chipset and decided to overclock it and call it 1.5Ghz? I'm not questioning your knowledge, just trying to increase mine!
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It's the way CPU manufacturing works. The frequency doesn't matter. For example Intel Core 2 Duo "merom" chip, whether it's 2 Ghz or 2.8 Ghz, the chip is the same but due to the way they are manufactured, there may be small physical differences, which means some can reach 2.8 Ghz without a problem whereas others only reach 2.2 Ghz.
That's why some people with the exact same CPU are able to overclock higher than others, they just got a slightly 'better' chip.
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It's the way CPU manufacturing works. The frequency doesn't matter. For example Intel Core 2 Duo "merom" chip, whether it's 2 Ghz or 2.8 Ghz, the chip is the same but due to the way they are manufactured, there may be small physical differences, which means some can reach 2.8 Ghz without a problem whereas others only reach 2.2 Ghz.
That's why some people with the exact same CPU are able to overclock higher than others, they just got a slightly 'better' chip.
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So there are physical differences? Actual manufacturing differences that translate into different real world performance ...? And they make some processors more capable than others from the same family right? That's all I wanted to know. Thanks.
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So there are physical differences? Actual manufacturing differences that translate into different real world performance ...? And they make some processors more capable than others from the same family right? That's all I wanted to know. Thanks.
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Chips within a family are all made with the same manufacturing process. You then test them and separate the better performers, and label them differently. So they have the same chip, but in the sensation, Qualcomm guarantees stable operation at 1.5GHz. The same is not true for the cpus used in the desire S.
Saying that the Desire S can easily run at 1.5GHz is misleading. Some may, many may not. And the testing is way more exhaustive than simple clock frequency.
Another thing you must understand is the concept of stability. If you have a chip that can run at 1.5GHz, and crashes once every 2 weeks, it would be rejected for the sensation. Different customers will have different quality constraints, it's all a deal with the chip manufacturers, you buy what you want.
This topic is much more complex than this. For reference, I worked 3 years in test engineering of dram chips, the concept was exactly the same.
Cheers
Compared to the specs , the Sensation XL is insanely priced !!!
Samsung's Galaxy Note is cheaper as compared to the Sensation XL....
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Saying that the Desire S can easily run at 1.5GHz is misleading. Some may, many may not. And the testing is way more exhaustive than simple clock frequency.
This topic is much more complex than this. For reference, I worked 3 years in test engineering of dram chips, the concept was exactly the same.
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Thanks buddy.
Had a hunch HTC wouldn't just OC the Desire chipset and sell it as a 1.5 gig CPU. Can't be that simple. Kind of you to explain it clearly. Just came out of the theater and was about to pound google and wikipedia for further information, when i saw your post. Saved me some time for other mischief on xda!!
freedompie said:
based on gsmarena the desire s and sensation xl has the same cpu and everything. The only difference is that the sensation xl has a better camera and a larger screen. Why is the sensation xl getting ics but not us. Seems kinda selfish on htc's part for just updating new phones and not our sorta getting old phone.
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I think chipset may be main cause. Sensation xl has Qualcomm MSM8260 Snapdragon where desire s Qualcomm MSM8255 Snapdragon
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I think chipset may be main cause. Sensation xl has Qualcomm MSM8260 Snapdragon where desire s Qualcomm MSM8255 Snapdragon
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Incorrect. 8260 is dual core
Both Desire S and XL have 8255 CPU.
But the XL is 8255T.
8255T stands for a batch of CPU's that have been extensively tested to withstand higher clockspeeds .
hence this is why our phones are very capable at OC.
So there are still the same
Source: HTC and Qualcomm themselves via emails. (from other XDA members etc)
I was interested in this too, so I did my research.
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Chips within a family are all made with the same manufacturing process. You then test them and separate the better performers, and label them differently. So they have the same chip, but in the sensation, Qualcomm guarantees stable operation at 1.5GHz. The same is not true for the cpus used in the desire S.
Saying that the Desire S can easily run at 1.5GHz is misleading. Some may, many may not. And the testing is way more exhaustive than simple clock frequency.
Another thing you must understand is the concept of stability. If you have a chip that can run at 1.5GHz, and crashes once every 2 weeks, it would be rejected for the sensation. Different customers will have different quality constraints, it's all a deal with the chip manufacturers, you buy what you want.
This topic is much more complex than this. For reference, I worked 3 years in test engineering of dram chips, the concept was exactly the same.
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Hi lowveld,
Is it possible to port camera driver from sensation xl to desire s for ICS? Because endymion has beats audio.
NO! Please do some research before talking. The sensation XL doesn't even have a proper working ICS build let alone have a working camera
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I am SHOCKED. I thought it had a different processor altogether, not the same thing, just OC'd. That would explain the huge preference of XL ROMs over the regular sensation, that would be easier to port
The processor is different, but only slightly. There isn't much difference between the 8255 and 8255T. The main difference is in battery, DS has 1450 mAH and Sensation XL has 1600 mAH. Higher clock speed = More battery drain
HTC is really bad with updates, our phone was the first HTC Gingerbread device, and it won't get ICS. It's not even a year old yet Specially when a similar device gets it
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I am SHOCKED. I thought it had a different processor altogether, not the same thing, just OC'd. That would explain the huge preference of XL ROMs over the regular sensation, that would be easier to port
The processor is different, but only slightly. There isn't much difference between the 8255 and 8255T. The main difference is in battery, DS has 1450 mAH and Sensation XL has 1600 mAH. Higher clock speed = More battery drain
HTC is really bad with updates, our phone was the first HTC Gingerbread device, and it won't get ICS. It's not even a year old yet Specially when a similar device gets it
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I really do hope we are the second wave of devices to get announced with ICS although that seems unlikely
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But I notice this to, I overclocked DS to 1.4 in ics cm9 and it works fluidly. But there can say why we don't get sense 3.5 and ics! HTC fault
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Guys do you think it will be possible to port ics once xl gets ics...waiting for ics Rom for xl
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i can't understand how the senstaion and the galaxy s2 so similar in there hardware
and in the benchmarks the sensation is so far away from the galaxy s2
it's driving me crazy....somebody know why it's like that???
another question is after reading lot's on this phones i couldn't know which one as better battery life???
thanks
Sense 3.0 and the qHD screen are the main answers. Once we get CM7 on both devices, I'm sure they'll be evenly matched.
welcome noob,
its because touch wiz is simple and sh*t and sense is a complete new interface so its doing more things in the background
also sensation has much more pixels to push through than the galaxy s2, and at the moment sense containts bloatware which we dont want. when the bootloader is unlocked and rooted, we will be able to install custom roms which are much faster.
The Galaxy S2 uses the tegra 2, the sensation uses the Qualcomm Snapdragon msm8260.
^ the main difference^
Tegra 1.x years old already, so it's more mature, and it's starting to get support.
On the other hand the MSM8260 is a newbie..which needs some polishing.
Though, don't trust benchmarks...they mean nothing.
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The Galaxy S2 uses the tegra 2, the sensation uses the Qualcomm Snapdragon msm8260.
^ the main difference^
Tegra 1.x years old already, so it's more mature, and it's starting to get support.
On the other hand the MSM8260 is a newbie..which needs some polishing.
Though, don't trust benchmarks...they mean nothing.
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its true, benchmarks are just a wase of time,
you dont go round benchmarking 2 brand new cars, crag racing them and rallying them to see which one handles and drives the best!
Does anyone know if the sensation comes with a super lcd screen or just a regular tft screen?
chchang1 said:
The Galaxy S2 uses the tegra 2, the sensation uses the Qualcomm Snapdragon msm8260.
^ the main difference^
Tegra 1.x years old already, so it's more mature, and it's starting to get support.
On the other hand the MSM8260 is a newbie..which needs some polishing.
Though, don't trust benchmarks...they mean nothing.
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SGS2 doesn't use tegra 2. It uses Samsungs exynos CPU/GPU. OP, one of the main reasons why quadrant gives the Sensation such low scores is due to the I/O score which reads and writes to the internal storage. The Sensation uses a slower format than the SGS2, and also most likely uses slower nand than samsungs (remember samsung makes nand, maybe an edge up). SGS2 uses EXT4. The second part of the low score is due to the Sensation having a higher res screen which means it's working harder to fill the screen. The third reason is that the snapdragon they're using is dual core, but it's based off of arm8 whereas the SGS2 exynos is based off of arm9. Newer tech usually has the upper hand. I'm sure an update will come out to help smooth out the lag in the OS. And I agree about not trusting benchmarks. Trust the experience, not a bunch of numbers.
brian85 said:
Does anyone know if the sensation comes with a super lcd screen or just a regular tft screen?
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Super LCD
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Super LCD
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And Gorilla glass.
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thanks all of you for a great answers....
what about the battery life???
is the slcd screen is killing battery or exactly opposite?
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SGS2 doesn't use tegra 2. It uses Samsungs exynos CPU/GPU. OP, one of the main reasons why quadrant gives the Sensation such low scores is due to the I/O score which reads and writes to the internal storage. The Sensation uses a slower format than the SGS2, and also most likely uses slower nand than samsungs (remember samsung makes nand, maybe an edge up). SGS2 uses EXT4. The second part of the low score is due to the Sensation having a higher res screen which means it's working harder to fill the screen. The third reason is that the snapdragon they're using is dual core, but it's based off of arm8 whereas the SGS2 exynos is based off of arm9. Newer tech usually has the upper hand. I'm sure an update will come out to help smooth out the lag in the OS. And I agree about not trusting benchmarks. Trust the experience, not a bunch of numbers.
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The stuff you say about the snapdragon is based of arm8 is wrong , as its a completely new arcitecture, it has loads of new functions that the old arm8 doesn't have. Can't remember where i read it, but its true
Utking said:
The stuff you say about the snapdragon is based of arm8 is wrong , as its a completely new arcitecture, it has loads of new functions that the old arm8 doesn't have. Can't remember where i read it, but its true
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Believe it's based on the arm8, but HIGHLY modified by Qualcom.. That's what gsmarena wrote at least
If it's highly modified, could we say it's equal or near power to arm cortex 9? Or synthetic benchmarks are right on snapdragon don't have equal power to arm 9?
So I had a chance to play around with one yesterday and I don't care what the benchmarks say, this phone feels lightning quick and it was crazy smooth when browsing engadget.com.
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So I had a chance to play around with one yesterday and I don't care what the benchmarks say, this phone feels lightning quick and it was crazy smooth when browsing engadget.com.
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^^^^^^ This
I haven't had any slowdowns or browsing problems.
HTC chip-set of 1.2 dual core and andreno 220 is far more better that SGS2's 1.2 dual core and 2008's Mali-400 chip-set. I used both the handsets and now using HTC Sensation after SGS2.
The main problem with HTC is it's locked boot-loader and it's stock rom which is really not ready to use the full power.. The power is not equally distributed. Benchmark is not everything as sensation has issues with sense 3.0 and better pixels than the SGS2. Below is some link where you can understand the whole technical issues.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1050968
http://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-mali-400mp-gpu-and-vs-adreno-220-gpu/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1169376
The Exysnos processor is better than the Dual Core Snapdragon just like the Hummingbird was better than the single core Snapdragon. Just be happy with your Sensation and stop trying to justify your purchase. Once the Sensation becomes as smooth as the GSII then we can talk bench marks but for right now during every day real world use, the GSII feels faster. Not to mention the GSII brings hardware acceleration to the browser. Something our Qualcom can't do.
By the way...Error 404 on both links.
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I prefer the sensation to sgs2 regardless of benchmarks or performence, mostly because of sense and nicer aesthetics
But I do have one concern, if you got to system/lib/egl, all the libs say adreno 200, could that be affecting performance?
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Actually the OP is right about the adreno 220 being better than the mali 400. The difference is the way samsung optimized the performance of their GPU with drivers and such. But for what the GPU can do spec wise, adreno 220 is superior. Too bad htc did not do a good job of showcasing that.
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The Exysnos processor is better than the Dual Core Snapdragon just like the Hummingbird was better than the single core Snapdragon. Just be happy with your Sensation and stop trying to justify your purchase. Once the Sensation becomes as smooth as the GSII then we can talk bench marks but for right now during every day real world use, the GSII feels faster. Not to mention the GSII brings hardware acceleration to the browser. Something our Qualcom can't do.
By the way...Error 404 on both links.
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Thanks for your reply, I updated those link. Now you will know what you said is not true. I am not justifying anything, True will be true. SGS2 is overclocked to 1.2 by samsung and its all software issues which is, what makes the benchmark result great. Main thing is Other than the GL benchmark, all benchmarking soft is not up to date for the sensation. As its use console-quality 3D graphics and high-end effects such as vertex skinning, full-screen post-processing shader effects, dynamic lighting with full-screen alpha blending, real-time cloth simulation, advanced shader effects like dynamic shadows, god rays, bump mapping.
I trialed one on ATT...and: No its not...(unfortunately)
I think both phones need a cyanogen 2.3.4 rom and then we can see how they perform against each other..sadly for us sensation owners... August couldn't come any quicker lol.
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jony013 said:
Thanks for your reply, I updated those link. Now you will know what you said is not true. I am not justifying anything, True will be true. SGS2 is overclocked to 1.2 by samsung and its all software issues which is, what makes the benchmark result great. Main thing is Other than the GL benchmark, all benchmarking soft is not up to date for the sensation. As its use console-quality 3D graphics and high-end effects such as vertex skinning, full-screen post-processing shader effects, dynamic lighting with full-screen alpha blending, real-time cloth simulation, advanced shader effects like dynamic shadows, god rays, bump mapping.
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Let me ask you something. If the Adreno is so good then why does HomeRun Battle 3D lag sometimes on my Sensation but never lagged once on my Tegra II powered G2X. I could care less about benchmarks or how Samsung is reaching the high numbers. What matters more to me is real world use. I could also care less if Samsung or HTC optimized there processors better than the other. Bottom line. Both of them should be optimized for best performance upon mass release. HTC always has problems with there drivers and quite frankly, the Adreno 220 could be 10 times better than the Mali or the Tegra II but if it doesn't have the software to back it up then its no good to me or you. By the time we get root or better drivers, Tegra III will be out smoking everything in its path including the Adreno 220.
By the way, the Adreno may be better than the Mali but the Snapdragon is very much inferior to the Exynos which is more powerful when it comes to raw processing power. I wish HTC would just ditch Qualcom all together because TI and Samsung continue to **** all over them.
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I think both phones need a cyanogen 2.3.4 rom and then we can see how they perform against each other..sadly for us sensation owners... August couldn't come any quicker lol.
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It will not be August/September for the Sensation. Yes it will be unlocked but that is when the custom rom process begins. It will be weeks to months later before you get any stable releases of everything.
The final product Samsung has provided in the Galaxy S II appears to be significantly faster than what HTC provides in the Sensation. I do not use the individual parts of my phone. I use the final product. So whoever optimized what does not matter to me as much as what I see on the screen and hold in my hand.
I prefer the Sensation right now. That is also what I own. The phone before that was the G2x and I liked that one as well...I preferred it to the Galaxy S 4g and the MyTouch 4g. Before that I had a preference for GS 4g...and it goes on from there. I buy the phones I prefer. It is kinda funny to see people defend the smartphone they bought as though they designed and built it themselves.
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The final product Samsung has provided in the Galaxy S II appears to be significantly faster than what HTC provides in the Sensation. I do not use the individual parts of my phone. I use the final product. So whoever optimized what does not matter to me as much as what I see on the screen and hold in my hand.
I prefer the Sensation right now. That is also what I own. The phone before that was the G2x and I liked that one as well...I preferred it to the Galaxy S 4g and the MyTouch 4g. Before that I had a preference for GS 4g...and it goes on from there. I buy the phones I prefer. It is kinda funny to see people defend the smartphone they bought as though they designed and built it themselves.
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Exactly, I buy whatever phone I like and right now I use a Sensation and a G2X. I think the Sensation is better than the G2X but I think the GSII is better than the Sensation and I'm not affraid to admit that just because I own the Sensation. If people think the Sensation is better than the GSII then they think the Sensation is the best Android phone available right now since almost every review I've read labels the GSII the best Android device to date. In fact, 9 out of 10 reviews state the GSII took Android to the next level but I haven't read any review stating the Sensation took it to the next level. Maybe if HTC would have released it with optimized drivers we would see reviews stating such.
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I am considering getting rid of the sensation due to it getting far to hot, I understand a dual core should put out more heat and its passively cooled but it shouldnt get any where near as hot as it does... I sold my sgs because of how terrible the flashing process is and if i didnt have the efs folder backed up I would of lost my imei
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I am considering getting rid of the sensation due to it getting far to hot, I understand a dual core should put out more heat and its passively cooled but it shouldnt get any where near as hot as it does... I sold my sgs because of how terrible the flashing process is and if i didnt have the efs folder backed up I would of lost my imei
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My Sensation gets extremely hot when playing Homerun Battle 3D and my G2X gets no where near as hot when playing the same game. In fact, after playing for 30 minutes it gets so hot that sometimes my screen becomes unresponsive to touch but the accelerometer still works. I think its definitely a driver issue but something shouldn't be getting so hot that it renders the phone useless.
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I am considering getting rid of the sensation due to it getting far to hot, I understand a dual core should put out more heat and its passively cooled but it shouldnt get any where near as hot as it does... I sold my sgs because of how terrible the flashing process is and if i didnt have the efs folder backed up I would of lost my imei
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I would imagine the heat you're talking about might be the battery not as much as the cpu.
I got my "1900mAh" Anker battery a few days ago and I can confirm, as others have in the Anker thread, that it doesn't get anywhere near as hot as it did with the OEM battery.
The easiest test for me was Angry Birds..... 30-45 min with stock battery, 45c avrg. Very hot to hold, even through my case. This Anker....28c avrg. Barley warm...huge difference.
No matter if the numbers are correct, one thing is for sure....I no longer feel ANY excessive heat even with prolonged heavy use.
If heat is why you'd get rid of your Sensation, spend 10 bones and get a new battery. Cheap and stays cool and lasts way longer
That site is funny.
"These benchmark tests shows that Tegra 2 takes the lead over Exynos in almost every category. Specially, this is especially true for mobile gaming."
Looks like everything is better than Exynos.
But you are wrong, sensation is weak.
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Let me ask you something. If the Adreno is so good then why does HomeRun Battle 3D lag sometimes on my Sensation but never lagged once on my Tegra II powered G2X. I could care less about benchmarks or how Samsung is reaching the high numbers. What matters more to me is real world use. I could also care less if Samsung or HTC optimized there processors better than the other. Bottom line. Both of them should be optimized for best performance upon mass release. HTC always has problems with there drivers and quite frankly, the Adreno 220 could be 10 times better than the Mali or the Tegra II but if it doesn't have the software to back it up then its no good to me or you. By the time we get root or better drivers, Tegra III will be out smoking everything in its path including the Adreno 220.
By the way, the Adreno may be better than the Mali but the Snapdragon is very much inferior to the Exynos which is more powerful when it comes to raw processing power. I wish HTC would just ditch Qualcom all together because TI and Samsung continue to **** all over them.
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Sounds to me your phone is syncing in the background
Hey people!! This reminds to me, old times with the HTC HD2 ( quetly brillant )
jajajaja yea yea... just quietly brillant... with the optimized drivers!
I have to laugh at all these banchmarks between the two...they aren't exactly valid.
The Sensation has a higher res screen that is has to push...which obviously means it has more work to do....it's not a fair comparison.
And in any case...benchmarks mean nothing to me...I chose to buy the Sensation because it looks so much better than the GS2, it has a better interface in Sense 3, and it's HTC
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My device syncs nothing but gmail. I have everything off including the HTC weather. I wouldn't even call my Gmail syncing since I'm using the Gmail app which uses push.
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Hoggles said:
I would imagine the heat you're talking about might be the battery not as much as the cpu.
I got my "1900mAh" Anker battery a few days ago and I can confirm, as others have in the Anker thread, that it doesn't get anywhere near as hot as it did with the OEM battery.
The easiest test for me was Angry Birds..... 30-45 min with stock battery, 45c avrg. Very hot to hold, even through my case. This Anker....28c avrg. Barley warm...huge difference.
No matter if the numbers are correct, one thing is for sure....I no longer feel ANY excessive heat even with prolonged heavy use.
If heat is why you'd get rid of your Sensation, spend 10 bones and get a new battery. Cheap and stays cool and lasts way longer
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My Sensation doesn't get hot near the battery. It gets hot at the very bottom where all of the internals are.
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hello
i want buy a new android phone in my birthday
is there 3 phones in my mind..SGS2,MyTouch Slide 4G and Sensation
which one have better camera ??
which one have better battery life ??
1GB stroge is that real problem ??
buy sensation
buy sensation
What do you expect from a sensation forum.
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Good answer lol
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What do you expect from a sensation forum.
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yep, another happy Sensation user.
With a few minor changes (New ROM) and JuiceDefender, my battery now last at least 3 times as long.
So, yes, buy a Sensation
Gooo Forrr itttt! Happy Flashing!
which one have better camera sensation or sgs2 ?
which one have better natural colors sensation or iphone 4 ??
Lol. The iphone screen is tiny. Sgs has slightly better hardware but touchwiz is even ****tier than sense and Samsung phones just feel cheap. Sensation feels like an executive phone. 1 gb is more than enough for all the apps you could want. I have about 100 apps installed and have filled less than half of it.
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which one is faster..1.2GHz Dual Core Snapdragon or 1.2GHz Dual Core Exynos ??
how much ram available in sensation ?? with and without sense 3.0
Hard to say what's faster without comparing them both on exactly the same ROM. I've heard that the Snapdragon has slightly more brute force than the Exynos (45 MFLOPS on the Exynos, compared to 46 on the Snapdragon).
If I can find someone with a Galaxy S2, I'm going to put both phones on CM7 and run a series of benchmarks on them. That'll really show us what's faster.
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Hard to say what's faster without comparing them both on exactly the same ROM. I've heard that the Snapdragon has slightly more brute force than the Exynos (45 MFLOPS on the Exynos, compared to 46 on the Snapdragon).
If I can find someone with a Galaxy S2, I'm going to put both phones on CM7 and run a series of benchmarks on them. That'll really show us what's faster.
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that's nice but sensation screen 540 x 960 !! CPU will take more from screen
Buy the upcoming Hercules. The galaxy s 2 is supposed to be the best android phone. The sensation is good, but the galaxy s2 is just flat out better.
i know SGS2 is better but for me i think sensation is better because i love the design and 540 x 960..but which camera is better sensation or SGS2 ?
Go for sensation
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which one is faster..1.2GHz Dual Core Snapdragon or 1.2GHz Dual Core Exynos ??
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Exynos is faster at the same clock speed, simply because the A9 is a better architecture than the Scorpion.
barondebxl said:
Buy the upcoming Hercules. The galaxy s 2 is supposed to be the best android phone. The sensation is good, but the galaxy s2 is just flat out better.
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The Hercules will have the same processor as the Sensation (well, all the info points to that so far).
Seriously?!?! You would ask that question in the Sensation forum. I don't believe any of us here would purchase a phone of this type without proper thought given.
Find an iPhone forum and ask them which they think is better, I'm sure you can guess what they would say.
In the end you have to decide which features are most important to you and then match that up with a phone that provides those features.
There's no such thing as a perfect phone although in my opinion the Sensation comes damn close.
-juanito- said:
hello
i want buy a new android phone in my birthday
is there 3 phones in my mind..SGS2,MyTouch Slide 4G and Sensation
which one have better camera ??
which one have better battery life ??
1GB stroge is that real problem ??
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The camera on the HTC sensation is quite good in my opinion. And I'm very impressed with the 1080 p recording. Now I own a sensation 4g but I will sell it for the Hercules because, my personal experience, sense lags and considering this is a 1.2 Ghz dual core nothing should lag on this phone. Sense is very nice no question about that, but it's a heavy UI and it clearly slows down the phone. But the Qhd resolution on the phone is excellent, the build of the phone is unique and sexy and it is HTC so those are the pros for me. Cons are that the phone isnt as fast as other dual core smartphones, the speaker is pretty much useless and more ram would have been great considering sense takes a lot of it. But there's already S-off for the sensation so if you want to root and install custom ROMs than you should be fine, but then again you could do the same on the Hercules except you would have better hardware. I can talk all day, but at the end it's just a matter of what you're looking for. I want speed speed and more speed and unfortunately the sensation isn't speedy enough for me.
Buy the damn thing
Definitely buy a sensation, perfect phone since s-off is out.
Hey Forum, I am pretty sure that a lot of people in this forum are going to be switching to the One X in Q2 of this year. Since I live in North America, we will only be getting the Krait. I believe that it isn't much of a loss, according to the benchmarks anyway. What is your opinion?
Well, T-Mobile is rumor to be getting One X with Tegra 3 with AOSP for US, and EU version is Sense 4. If this true i'll definately getting One X. If not its hard to choose One X and Galaxy S 3.
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Depends on the power consumption.
Benchmarks showed that the S4 SoC is a beast, but not much words on the power consumption.
As for the SGSIII - the fullHD display sounds good
epsix said:
Well, T-Mobile is rumor to be getting One X with Tegra 3 with AOSP for US, and EU version is Sense 4. If this true i'll definately getting One X. If not its hard to choose One X and Galaxy S 3.
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Sense is a critical point of One X , no way HTC is going to allow AOSP versions regardless of country
i fail to see how this phone will be significantly better than the sensation.....
Wow. Cool. Rad.
waltthizzney said:
i fail to see how this phone will be significantly better than the sensation.....
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I think the same.
But OLED screen would be good reason...
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Pikabat said:
Sense is a critical point of One X , no way HTC is going to allow AOSP versions regardless of country
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HTC G2 US version is AOSP, T-Mobile will market One X as their G series with AOSP. US carrier especially T-Mobile have a strange ways to market their phones.
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waltthizzney said:
i fail to see how this phone will be significantly better than the sensation.....
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Read these:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5559/...ormance-preview-msm8960-adreno-225-benchmarks
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5563/qualcomms-snapdragon-s4-krait-vs-nvidias-tegra-3
HTC One X power consumption
Well, I think that Tegra 3 is going to have better battery life. Tegra 3 spreads workload across its 4 cores plus its 5th lower power core. Too bad North America is stuck with Krait.
davebugyi said:
As for the SGSIII - the fullHD display sounds good
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Full HD sounds pretty damn awesome
htc-one said:
Well, I think that Tegra 3 is going to have better battery life. Tegra 3 spreads workload across its 4 cores plus its 5th lower power core. Too bad North America is stuck with Krait.
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Baseless assumptions. NA is "stuck" with the Krait?
The Krait is based on a new architecture (similar the Cortex A15) and can asymmetrically clock each core unlike the T3 or any of the ARM-based chips. It is also based on the 28nm process, which should bode well for power consumption and heat.
I'll take the Krait over the T3 any day of the week. I am glad that we are "stuck" with the Krait.
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Baseless assumptions. NA is "stuck" with the Krait?
The Krait is based on a new architecture (similar the Cortex A15) and can asymmetrically clock each core unlike the T3 or any of the ARM-based chips. It is also based on the 28nm process, which should bode well for power consumption and heat.
I'll take the Krait over the T3 any day of the week. I am glad that we are "stuck" with the Krait.
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I agreee...Snapdragon S4 dualcore is a lot better in battery life and performance than Tegra 3.
Nvidia SoC stuck on an ARM Cortex A9 45nm...
I'm in italy, so in my country i will see onli One X with Tegra...so i'll probably buy it from US with Snapdragon S4 xD
htc-one said:
Well, I think that Tegra 3 is going to have better battery life. Tegra 3 spreads workload across its 4 cores plus its 5th lower power core. Too bad North America is stuck with Krait.
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Not true. Tegra 3 is made using 40nm process, while the S4 is made in 28nm. The 28nm process can be a lot more energy efficient. Although the Tegra 3 includes a 5th low power companion core, it is being used only in light weight task, in which case the same applications won't be consuming much power on the S4 either. When the Tegra 3 is running at it's full power, it's definitely consuming more power than the S4.
That is not to say that the Tegra 3 is a battery sucker and the S4 is not. There is just not enough tests out there to judge. And thus far all the Tegra 3 benchmarks are only done with the Transformer Prime.
I'd have to say this, neither of them is really slower than the other in all scenarios. If I were to choose between them, my deciding factor would definitely be real world battery life (and maybe LTE, at this moment I don't really care about it too much). I'm sure there will be tons of tests comparing the two once the One X is physically launched.
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I think the S4 is a better dualcore and the Tegra 3 is just an soc to promote the quadcore name. pretty much marketing issue. Not saying its not any good, benchmarks proves it's got some power. I just think it is to early for quadcore phone. S4 proves it.
htc-one said:
Well, I think that Tegra 3 is going to have better battery life. Tegra 3 spreads workload across its 4 cores plus its 5th lower power core. Too bad North America is stuck with Krait.
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Well, actually the Tegra 3 only uses the compagnion core when idle, so it's likely that the Snapdragon S4 version is more efficient in practice.
Krait is better. I hope T-Mobile releases their G4X with the Krait.
I said this months ago... If this phone becomes the G3 or some other naming scheme I will be all over it regardless of the SoC... But Apples to Apples I'd take the Krait hands down... Snapdragon support has proven to be overwhelming in the dev community.
And people that fail to see how this is better than the sensation.. You clearly don't have your eyes open.
According to all the benchmarks and reviews I've seen the Krait kills the Tegra 3. And it has better battery life and LTE?! Yes please! And for everyone saying LTE sucks battery life you're right, but the One X for Sprint is rumored to have a 2650mah battery, hell yes if that's true!
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According to this it's in testing. The Japanese article says it's using a 1.7GHz Teg3 SoC with Nvidia's Icera i410 LTE baseband chip. It's shown up on GLBenchmark as:
android.os.Build.FINGERPRINT - cingular_us/evitareul/evitareul:4.0.4/IMM76D/83349.1:user/release-keys
android.os.Build.MODEL - HTC PM63100
android.os.Build.DEVICE - evitareul
So whatever it ends up being, something that's not the current One X "Evita" but is a relative in some way is being tested and is destined for AT&T. If it has 32GB of storage and 2GB of RAM it would certainly be able to take on the S4 SGS3 as AT&T's flagship. It would also be the first and only quad-core LTE phone in the U.S. I wonder if it will eventually be a global product or if it's just intended for AT&T? Interesting stuff.
http://translate.google.com/transla...http://ameblo.jp/povtc/entry-11301090245.html
http://www.glbenchmark.com/phonedetails.jsp?benchmark=glpro21&D=HTC+PM63100&testgroup=system
I saw that as well and nearly punched someone because I JUST bought the S4 One X. However, if this is the same Tegra 3 that is in the International One X, just with LTE compatibility, then I'll keep my S4 One X. It took me a while to accept that quad-core isn't necessarily better than dual-core and it's my understanding that they are more or less comparable (besides maybe gaming, but I spend absolutely no time gaming on my phone).
gmanley said:
I saw that as well and nearly punched someone because I JUST bought the S4 One X. However, if this is the same Tegra 3 that is in the International One X, just with LTE compatibility, then I'll keep my S4 One X. It took me a while to accept that quad-core isn't necessarily better than dual-core and it's my understanding that they are more or less comparable (besides maybe gaming, but I spend absolutely no time gaming on my phone).
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The S4 is a far more modern and efficient chip than Teg3 which was a pretty Frankenstein way for Nvidia to be first to market with a next-gen SoC. But since the general public doesn't even know what a SoC is or does, having "four" of something will appear better than having "two." And HTC and/or AT&T would be idiots if they didn't make a big deal about having the first quad-core phone in the U.S.; whether it's actually "better" or not. That could mean even more if the iP5 ends up with a quad-core A6 as speculated. You know Apple's going to play up quad-core big time if that's the case. Also, with the shortage of S4 chips available, introducing a Teg3/Icera phone might be more driven by SoC availability than improving performance. It hasn’t shown up at the FCC so whatever it is, it’s not around the corner.
Since when was it decided that the sgs3 is AT&T's flagship device? It's still the One X in my opinion.
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SkizzMcNizz said:
Since when was it decided that the sgs3 is AT&T's flagship device? It's still the One X in my opinion.
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Who cares, it's a damn phone
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bloodrain954 said:
Who cares, it's a damn phone
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Lol that was awesome.
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I don't want the Tegra 3 with LTE, I want the quad core Snapdragon S4 with LTE. At the least, however, the quad core should only have additional power drain from two cores running, not from either needing another chip for LTE or some other arcane issue like that.
BarryH_GEG said:
According to this it's in testing. The Japanese article says it's using a 1.7GHz Teg3 SoC with Nvidia's Icera i410 LTE baseband chip. It's shown up on GLBenchmark as:
android.os.Build.FINGERPRINT - cingular_us/evitareul/evitareul:4.0.4/IMM76D/83349.1:user/release-keys
android.os.Build.MODEL - HTC PM63100
android.os.Build.DEVICE - evitareul
So whatever it ends up being, something that's not the current One X "Evita" but is a relative in some way is being tested and is destined for AT&T. If it has 32GB of storage and 2GB of RAM it would certainly be able to take on the S4 SGS3 as AT&T's flagship. It would also be the first and only quad-core LTE phone in the U.S. I wonder if it will eventually be a global product or if it's just intended for AT&T? Interesting stuff.
http://translate.google.com/transla...http://ameblo.jp/povtc/entry-11301090245.html
http://www.glbenchmark.com/phonedetails.jsp?benchmark=glpro21&D=HTC+PM63100&testgroup=system
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Two X?
corythug said:
Lol that was awesome.
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Yeah it was. Man, he got me.
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BarryH_GEG said:
But since the general public doesn't even know what a SoC is or does, having "four" of something will appear better than having "two." And HTC and/or AT&T would be idiots if they didn't make a big deal about having the first quad-core phone in the U.S.; whether it's actually "better" or not.
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This.
Though I'm not a banker by occupation, I invest and follow the stock markets closely, especially in the tech industries and HTC has been taking a beating recently. Part of it was the injunction dished out which caused the HOX ban, but revenues have been down by a lot and they've just been blasted out of the water by Samsung. I'm not saying the HOX suck, because I'm not--I think it's better than the S3 (personal preference, of course), but whether it's bad planning, bad marketing, bad implementation, whatever: it's clear that the HOX is struggling against the S3 and HTC isn't doing that well.
With that said, with all the hype around moar cores! gimme moar cores!, if HTC really can muster out a quad-core and hype it up enough, it would be wondrous.
The Tegra 3 HTC One X is terrible compared to my HTC One XL, I live in the UK and thank god a seller was selling the HTC One XL (Telsra) here.
The heat on the Tegra 3 is ridiculous, plus having a higher clock and LTE is gonna kill that phone faster. Not to mention the battery life is already sh*t on the Tegra 3 ver.
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The S4 is a far more modern and efficient chip than Teg3 which was a pretty Frankenstein way for Nvidia to be first to market with a next-gen SoC. But since the general public doesn't even know what a SoC is or does, having "four" of something will appear better than having "two." And HTC and/or AT&T would be idiots if they didn't make a big deal about having the first quad-core phone in the U.S.; whether it's actually "better" or not. That could mean even more if the iP5 ends up with a quad-core A6 as speculated. You know Apple's going to play up quad-core big time if that's the case. Also, with the shortage of S4 chips available, introducing a Teg3/Icera phone might be more driven by SoC availability than improving performance. It hasn’t shown up at the FCC so whatever it is, it’s not around the corner.
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Pretty much this. Plus in all benchmark tests the S4 version of the One X outperformed the Tegra3 version hands down. The marketing for the quadcore is just a marketing gimmick. At least for smartphones, more cores doesn't not equal better/faster.
ericth18 said:
Sorry for this reply, need 1 more post to be able to post on android dev forum.
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