According to this it's in testing. The Japanese article says it's using a 1.7GHz Teg3 SoC with Nvidia's Icera i410 LTE baseband chip. It's shown up on GLBenchmark as:
android.os.Build.FINGERPRINT - cingular_us/evitareul/evitareul:4.0.4/IMM76D/83349.1:user/release-keys
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So whatever it ends up being, something that's not the current One X "Evita" but is a relative in some way is being tested and is destined for AT&T. If it has 32GB of storage and 2GB of RAM it would certainly be able to take on the S4 SGS3 as AT&T's flagship. It would also be the first and only quad-core LTE phone in the U.S. I wonder if it will eventually be a global product or if it's just intended for AT&T? Interesting stuff.
http://translate.google.com/transla...http://ameblo.jp/povtc/entry-11301090245.html
http://www.glbenchmark.com/phonedetails.jsp?benchmark=glpro21&D=HTC+PM63100&testgroup=system
I saw that as well and nearly punched someone because I JUST bought the S4 One X. However, if this is the same Tegra 3 that is in the International One X, just with LTE compatibility, then I'll keep my S4 One X. It took me a while to accept that quad-core isn't necessarily better than dual-core and it's my understanding that they are more or less comparable (besides maybe gaming, but I spend absolutely no time gaming on my phone).
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I saw that as well and nearly punched someone because I JUST bought the S4 One X. However, if this is the same Tegra 3 that is in the International One X, just with LTE compatibility, then I'll keep my S4 One X. It took me a while to accept that quad-core isn't necessarily better than dual-core and it's my understanding that they are more or less comparable (besides maybe gaming, but I spend absolutely no time gaming on my phone).
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The S4 is a far more modern and efficient chip than Teg3 which was a pretty Frankenstein way for Nvidia to be first to market with a next-gen SoC. But since the general public doesn't even know what a SoC is or does, having "four" of something will appear better than having "two." And HTC and/or AT&T would be idiots if they didn't make a big deal about having the first quad-core phone in the U.S.; whether it's actually "better" or not. That could mean even more if the iP5 ends up with a quad-core A6 as speculated. You know Apple's going to play up quad-core big time if that's the case. Also, with the shortage of S4 chips available, introducing a Teg3/Icera phone might be more driven by SoC availability than improving performance. It hasn’t shown up at the FCC so whatever it is, it’s not around the corner.
Since when was it decided that the sgs3 is AT&T's flagship device? It's still the One X in my opinion.
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Since when was it decided that the sgs3 is AT&T's flagship device? It's still the One X in my opinion.
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Who cares, it's a damn phone
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Who cares, it's a damn phone
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Lol that was awesome.
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I don't want the Tegra 3 with LTE, I want the quad core Snapdragon S4 with LTE. At the least, however, the quad core should only have additional power drain from two cores running, not from either needing another chip for LTE or some other arcane issue like that.
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According to this it's in testing. The Japanese article says it's using a 1.7GHz Teg3 SoC with Nvidia's Icera i410 LTE baseband chip. It's shown up on GLBenchmark as:
android.os.Build.FINGERPRINT - cingular_us/evitareul/evitareul:4.0.4/IMM76D/83349.1:user/release-keys
android.os.Build.MODEL - HTC PM63100
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So whatever it ends up being, something that's not the current One X "Evita" but is a relative in some way is being tested and is destined for AT&T. If it has 32GB of storage and 2GB of RAM it would certainly be able to take on the S4 SGS3 as AT&T's flagship. It would also be the first and only quad-core LTE phone in the U.S. I wonder if it will eventually be a global product or if it's just intended for AT&T? Interesting stuff.
http://translate.google.com/transla...http://ameblo.jp/povtc/entry-11301090245.html
http://www.glbenchmark.com/phonedetails.jsp?benchmark=glpro21&D=HTC+PM63100&testgroup=system
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Two X?
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Lol that was awesome.
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Yeah it was. Man, he got me.
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But since the general public doesn't even know what a SoC is or does, having "four" of something will appear better than having "two." And HTC and/or AT&T would be idiots if they didn't make a big deal about having the first quad-core phone in the U.S.; whether it's actually "better" or not.
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This.
Though I'm not a banker by occupation, I invest and follow the stock markets closely, especially in the tech industries and HTC has been taking a beating recently. Part of it was the injunction dished out which caused the HOX ban, but revenues have been down by a lot and they've just been blasted out of the water by Samsung. I'm not saying the HOX suck, because I'm not--I think it's better than the S3 (personal preference, of course), but whether it's bad planning, bad marketing, bad implementation, whatever: it's clear that the HOX is struggling against the S3 and HTC isn't doing that well.
With that said, with all the hype around moar cores! gimme moar cores!, if HTC really can muster out a quad-core and hype it up enough, it would be wondrous.
The Tegra 3 HTC One X is terrible compared to my HTC One XL, I live in the UK and thank god a seller was selling the HTC One XL (Telsra) here.
The heat on the Tegra 3 is ridiculous, plus having a higher clock and LTE is gonna kill that phone faster. Not to mention the battery life is already sh*t on the Tegra 3 ver.
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The S4 is a far more modern and efficient chip than Teg3 which was a pretty Frankenstein way for Nvidia to be first to market with a next-gen SoC. But since the general public doesn't even know what a SoC is or does, having "four" of something will appear better than having "two." And HTC and/or AT&T would be idiots if they didn't make a big deal about having the first quad-core phone in the U.S.; whether it's actually "better" or not. That could mean even more if the iP5 ends up with a quad-core A6 as speculated. You know Apple's going to play up quad-core big time if that's the case. Also, with the shortage of S4 chips available, introducing a Teg3/Icera phone might be more driven by SoC availability than improving performance. It hasn’t shown up at the FCC so whatever it is, it’s not around the corner.
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Pretty much this. Plus in all benchmark tests the S4 version of the One X outperformed the Tegra3 version hands down. The marketing for the quadcore is just a marketing gimmick. At least for smartphones, more cores doesn't not equal better/faster.
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When do you guys think that the One X will be released here in the US (stateside)??? I just upgraded to the Galaxy Note, and have 30 days, but I am really interested in switching it out for the One X if it comes out in time.
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When do you guys think that the One X will be released here in the US (stateside)??? I just upgraded to the Galaxy Note, and have 30 days, but I am really interested in switching it out for the One X if it comes out in time.
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We most likely won't see it here for awhile. Maybe around summer time. Mainly with what's is going on with the processors maybe delaying the launch of the whole line.
Q2, so, like, around May/June-ish i believe
Should be the One XL. Dual core Krait S4 CPU for LTE. Unreal potential, but horribly crippled by no sd slot and no extended battery.
And only16gb
Did Crapple buy HTC and we weren't told?
Eat the rich before they eat you!
Bloke above is correct. Not sure if you'll see the quad-core One X Stateside, but AT&T will see the dual-S4-packing One XL sometime this quarter.
All the caveats mentioned above (no expandable memory, 16GB etc.) still apply.
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Should be the One XL. Dual core Krait S4 CPU for LTE. Unreal potential, but horribly crippled by no sd slot and no extended battery.
And only16gb
Did Crapple buy HTC and we weren't told?
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Or emulating the wrong aspects of Apple. Apple is applauded for their polish and refine which their loyal base then defend their short comings such as lack of sd card.
anyhooo... spec wise LG optimus 4x seems a better match, but others point to the problems that g2x had, as a reason to distrust LG. Their rep was not helped with the videos I saw at MWC. Little chance (AUS or US) of us getting that beautiful waterproof fujistu quad core ICS phone. But as specs go Huawei really is a looker, with stock ICS.
By some reports I read, only a XL version will be released that will not have the Quad Core, but with a Dual Core processor.
If I'm wrong correct me.
in joooon Im putty soore
lol whooo caaaaares. All the phones these days are the same and more come out monthly. Its like a bag of popcorn- every corn is the same as the rest.
You can buy the quad core One X but only if you're planning to use only HSPA+ I believe since there's an article about it passing the FCC to use HSPA+ bands in the US.
You can continue discussion on the proper section, thanks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1533
Hey Forum, I am pretty sure that a lot of people in this forum are going to be switching to the One X in Q2 of this year. Since I live in North America, we will only be getting the Krait. I believe that it isn't much of a loss, according to the benchmarks anyway. What is your opinion?
Well, T-Mobile is rumor to be getting One X with Tegra 3 with AOSP for US, and EU version is Sense 4. If this true i'll definately getting One X. If not its hard to choose One X and Galaxy S 3.
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Depends on the power consumption.
Benchmarks showed that the S4 SoC is a beast, but not much words on the power consumption.
As for the SGSIII - the fullHD display sounds good
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Well, T-Mobile is rumor to be getting One X with Tegra 3 with AOSP for US, and EU version is Sense 4. If this true i'll definately getting One X. If not its hard to choose One X and Galaxy S 3.
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Sense is a critical point of One X , no way HTC is going to allow AOSP versions regardless of country
i fail to see how this phone will be significantly better than the sensation.....
Wow. Cool. Rad.
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i fail to see how this phone will be significantly better than the sensation.....
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I think the same.
But OLED screen would be good reason...
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Sense is a critical point of One X , no way HTC is going to allow AOSP versions regardless of country
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HTC G2 US version is AOSP, T-Mobile will market One X as their G series with AOSP. US carrier especially T-Mobile have a strange ways to market their phones.
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i fail to see how this phone will be significantly better than the sensation.....
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Read these:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5559/...ormance-preview-msm8960-adreno-225-benchmarks
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5563/qualcomms-snapdragon-s4-krait-vs-nvidias-tegra-3
HTC One X power consumption
Well, I think that Tegra 3 is going to have better battery life. Tegra 3 spreads workload across its 4 cores plus its 5th lower power core. Too bad North America is stuck with Krait.
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As for the SGSIII - the fullHD display sounds good
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Full HD sounds pretty damn awesome
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Well, I think that Tegra 3 is going to have better battery life. Tegra 3 spreads workload across its 4 cores plus its 5th lower power core. Too bad North America is stuck with Krait.
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Baseless assumptions. NA is "stuck" with the Krait?
The Krait is based on a new architecture (similar the Cortex A15) and can asymmetrically clock each core unlike the T3 or any of the ARM-based chips. It is also based on the 28nm process, which should bode well for power consumption and heat.
I'll take the Krait over the T3 any day of the week. I am glad that we are "stuck" with the Krait.
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Baseless assumptions. NA is "stuck" with the Krait?
The Krait is based on a new architecture (similar the Cortex A15) and can asymmetrically clock each core unlike the T3 or any of the ARM-based chips. It is also based on the 28nm process, which should bode well for power consumption and heat.
I'll take the Krait over the T3 any day of the week. I am glad that we are "stuck" with the Krait.
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I agreee...Snapdragon S4 dualcore is a lot better in battery life and performance than Tegra 3.
Nvidia SoC stuck on an ARM Cortex A9 45nm...
I'm in italy, so in my country i will see onli One X with Tegra...so i'll probably buy it from US with Snapdragon S4 xD
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Well, I think that Tegra 3 is going to have better battery life. Tegra 3 spreads workload across its 4 cores plus its 5th lower power core. Too bad North America is stuck with Krait.
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Not true. Tegra 3 is made using 40nm process, while the S4 is made in 28nm. The 28nm process can be a lot more energy efficient. Although the Tegra 3 includes a 5th low power companion core, it is being used only in light weight task, in which case the same applications won't be consuming much power on the S4 either. When the Tegra 3 is running at it's full power, it's definitely consuming more power than the S4.
That is not to say that the Tegra 3 is a battery sucker and the S4 is not. There is just not enough tests out there to judge. And thus far all the Tegra 3 benchmarks are only done with the Transformer Prime.
I'd have to say this, neither of them is really slower than the other in all scenarios. If I were to choose between them, my deciding factor would definitely be real world battery life (and maybe LTE, at this moment I don't really care about it too much). I'm sure there will be tons of tests comparing the two once the One X is physically launched.
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I think the S4 is a better dualcore and the Tegra 3 is just an soc to promote the quadcore name. pretty much marketing issue. Not saying its not any good, benchmarks proves it's got some power. I just think it is to early for quadcore phone. S4 proves it.
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Well, I think that Tegra 3 is going to have better battery life. Tegra 3 spreads workload across its 4 cores plus its 5th lower power core. Too bad North America is stuck with Krait.
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Well, actually the Tegra 3 only uses the compagnion core when idle, so it's likely that the Snapdragon S4 version is more efficient in practice.
Krait is better. I hope T-Mobile releases their G4X with the Krait.
I said this months ago... If this phone becomes the G3 or some other naming scheme I will be all over it regardless of the SoC... But Apples to Apples I'd take the Krait hands down... Snapdragon support has proven to be overwhelming in the dev community.
And people that fail to see how this is better than the sensation.. You clearly don't have your eyes open.
According to all the benchmarks and reviews I've seen the Krait kills the Tegra 3. And it has better battery life and LTE?! Yes please! And for everyone saying LTE sucks battery life you're right, but the One X for Sprint is rumored to have a 2650mah battery, hell yes if that's true!
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I posted this in the One X forums and have no replies and 63 views. I hope you guys can help me with my dilemma. I bought the Inspire off contract at the end of Feb last year and loved it. Qualified for my upgrade in Dec and upgraded to the Vivid near the end of Jan and love it. The One X is the phone I am wanting. That being said I've only used Snapdragon processors and stuck with HTC. Internally, the AT&T version is identical to the Vivid, minus the S4 processor. I will be selling my Inspire to help get this phone, as I have to pay full price whichever route I go. I will have the full price for either device next month and would like to know which I should get? I am really not concerned with LTE as my area won't have for at least another year and I'm always on WiFi. The T3X I can get for $670, the AT&T S4X I will be able to get for $550. Rooting does not concern me at this point, my Inspire is rooted and my Vivid is still locked and stock. Can you please help me with this decision? I don't want to have buyers remorse later this year. I look forward to hearing your opinions.
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If you live in a Lte area or upcoming Lte area, this decision should
be a no-brainer imo. I personally would take the s4 soc over the tegra3.
s4x > t3x imho
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If you live in a Lte area or upcoming Lte area, this decision should
be a no-brainer imo. I personally would take the s4 soc over the tegra3.
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Nope, live outside of Memphis. They won't get LTE for at least another year, and we will get it prolly another year after that. I'm mostly on WiFi on my LTE capable Vivid.
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So, regardless of being only on WiFi, you all would say still get the S4X? Cause I'm thinking the S4X will give me better battery life than the Vivid and the T3X combined. Not to mention the fact it will be cheaper than the T3X.
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Cause I'm thinking the S4X will give me better battery life than the Vivid and the T3X combined. Not to mention the fact it will be cheaper than the T3X.
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I think you just answered your own question.
I say go with the S4 version since it will be cheaper. A lot of people will use their AT&T upgrade on the phone just to flip it on Ebay for a profit. You will be able to get the S4 version of the One X for under 500.00.
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So, regardless of being only on WiFi, you all would say still get the S4X? Cause I'm thinking the S4X will give me better battery life than the Vivid and the T3X combined. Not to mention the fact it will be cheaper than the T3X.
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I think you just answered your own question.
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Lol... Just wait for the at&t version. From what I've read, the one XL
has rock solid battery life with Lte. Hopefully that statement is true.
I think it comes down to how much you value developer support. The One X looks like it will have solid third party developer support, and while I suspect the One XL on AT&T will also have decent support, the international versions of phones usually have significantly stronger developer support.
So, if you were to go with the One XL from AT&T, you'd be trading that extra level of dev support for a lower price, valid warranty, higher performance*, probably better battery life, and LTE (where available).
If support for the One X/XL is anything like the support for the Galaxy S/Captivate, I'd say holding out for the AT&T release of the One XL would be well worth it.
*On most benchmarks.
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I say go with the S4 version since it will be cheaper. A lot of people will use their AT&T upgrade on the phone just to flip it on Ebay for a profit. You will be able to get the S4 version of the One X for under 500.00.
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Yeah with some luck and patience, you should be able to find one
for under 500$ once it's released.
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I think it comes down to how much you value developer support. The One X looks like it will have solid third party developer support, and while I suspect the One XL on AT&T will also have decent support, the international versions of phones usually have significantly stronger developer support.
So, if you were to go with the One XL from AT&T, you'd be trading that extra level of dev support for a lower price, valid warranty, higher performance*, probably better battery life, and LTE (where available).
If support for the One X/XL is anything like the support for the Galaxy S/Captivate, I'd say holding out for the AT&T release of the One XL would be well worth it.
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Yup. Was going to pick one up on ebay a couple of days ago because
of that, but I decided I prioritize Lte and the s4 chip more.
It will have ****ty bloat and the logo but I'm cool with that. (It will get
removed ). You're in a no-lose situation if you decide to pick up the
one x or one xl.
mesasone said:
I think it comes down to how much you value developer support. The One X looks like it will have solid third party developer support, and while I suspect the One XL on AT&T will also have decent support, the international versions of phones usually have significantly stronger developer support.
So, if you were to go with the One XL from AT&T, you'd be trading that extra level of dev support for a lower price, valid warranty, higher performance*, probably better battery life, and LTE (where available).
If support for the One X/XL is anything like the support for the Galaxy S/Captivate, I'd say holding out for the AT&T release of the One XL would be well worth it.
*On most benchmarks.
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Coming from an Inspire prior to the Vivid, I do value XDA developer support. However, without S-Off I refuse to root my Vivid. However, we are real close to that now. Short term, I don't mind running the phone stock, as that's what I did with my Inspire and now Vivid. I just waited til Thanksgiving to root my Inspire. Once the S-Off process for the Vivid is out, I will finally root it. So, I don't mind using the S4X stock until S-Off, if it ever is, achieved.
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Coming from an Inspire prior to the Vivid, I do value XDA developer support. However, without S-Off I refuse to root my Vivid. However, we are real close to that now. Short term, I don't mind running the phone stock, as that's what I did with my Inspire and now Vivid. I just waited til Thanksgiving to root my Inspire. Once the S-Off process for the Vivid is out, I will finally root it. So, I don't mind using the S4X stock until S-Off, if it ever is, achieved.
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The Vivid's S-OFF process will require HTCDev Unlock to work, but with S-OFF you can conveniently change the **UNLOCKED** flag to **LOCKED**.
Hunt3r.j2 said:
The Vivid's S-OFF process will require HTCDev Unlock to work, but with S-OFF you can conveniently change the **UNLOCKED** flag to **LOCKED**.
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Actually look in the Vivids dev section. We have a couple devs with an actual s-off procedure in beta right now
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One x. 4 cores vs 2 cores. Twice as fast. But please read through the list of issues over at the one x forums to see if you can live with those.
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One x. 4 cores vs 2 cores. Twice as fast.
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Um, no. That is not how multi-core processors work. Seems like you've fallen for marketing gimmickry, instead of actual facts. Few apps, if any are optimized to take advantage of 4 cores, so the only benefit you see is in running processes in the background, switching between tasks, and the like.
If you look at the benchmark comparisons, the S4 beats Tegra 3 in most of them. Some will argue that Tegra 3 wins in some benchmarks, so the difference is probably marginal, either way. But S4 may win for battery life, and Tegra 3 is also having lots of issues on the One X (as you mentioned).
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One x. 4 cores vs 2 cores. Twice as fast. But please read through the list of issues over at the one x forums to see if you can live with those.
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I have the international One X. If I had a choice, I'd go with S4 over Teg3. It's a much more modern and efficient chip and from benchmarks performs almost equally. Battery life on the One X so far is pretty terrifying where the One S with the S4 chip seems to fare much better (but it doesn't have a mammoth display either). The international One X is also experiencing some bizarre graphics and performance issues which are probably Teg3 related as the Asus Prime had similar issues until it received a couple of updates. Since LTE is now integrated in to the SoC the One XL should probably have the best battery life of any LTE device currently available.
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One x. 4 cores vs 2 cores. Twice as fast. But please read through the list of issues over at the one x forums to see if you can live with those.
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The Snapdragon S4 which is a Cortex A15 level SOC and a new micro architecture is more powerful. In most tasks the Snapdragon S4 will be the faster of the two. And in quite a few head to head tests, the S4 literally destroys The Tegra 3. The Tegra 3 is a Cortex A9. Like comparing a old Core 2 Duo to a Intel Sandy bridge chip.
The one XL with the snapdragon S4 will most likely be the fastest SOC CPU wise probably until next year or late this year other than other phones running that chip. There isn't a Cortex A15 due on the horizon until that time later this year. OMAP 5 will be such a SOC. And even it will probably be only on par with the snapdragon S4 not out gun it. And than you have the Exynos 5250 which is a quad core cortex A15 later this year or next year. But than again Qualcomm has the Snapdragon S4 Pro, a quad-core A15 level chip to match it.
That means the Galaxy S3 will still be most likely running a 32nm-based Cortex A9 Exynos mobile processor, the Exynos 4212. The Exynos A15 based 5250 will not be ready until later this year. There is a slight chance it will make it into the Galaxy S3 but the chances are slim since they have not produced any in any numbers for production and the S3 will be released soon. The Exynos 4212 is similar to the Tegra 3 but with a better GPU.
The iphone 5 will run the A5X a dual core Cortex A9 with a quad core GPU at 32nm. Again, older microarchitecture.
So essentially the Snapdragon S4 will make the One Xl one of the most powerful if not the most powerful smartphone for the foreseeable future. Regardless of the Samsung S3 and the iphone 5 if they run the above mentioned SOC's. Which most likely they will.
Hardware wise the One xl will have few equals. Other than the 16GB of memory, it is a beast.
There are some reports of issues with the One X international version connecting properly to AT&T's HSPA network, despite having the proper band compatibility (850/1900 MHz). Also, Tegra 3 is having some video corruption and other issues.
I too was slightly considering the international version for use on AT&T, due to the increased storage, and potentially more developer support. And also probably better battery life by using HSPA instead of LTE. But the issues with the international version so far have me deciding against it.
I was worried about the 16 gb storage as well until i used the one XL for the few days that I actually had in our offices. Dropbox is so tightly integrated with The OS that you don't even know that you don't have more than 16 GB on the phone that's how integrated it is.
I uploaded a bunch of photos to the gallery and every time I went to the gallery to retrieve them they were instantly they're like the pictures were on the memory the whole time! don't worry you have plenty of space as long as you keep your photos and videos to drop box. and 25gb is plenty
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Actually look in the Vivids dev section. We have a couple devs with an actual s-off procedure in beta right now
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Yes, I'm saying that juopunut S-OFF uses HTCDev unlock as a part of its exploit, you need your bootloader to be unlocked before you can get S-OFF.
So what do you guys think about the next few weeks. The Samsung Galaxy S3, quad core phones coming to US, maybe new release for TMobile US. I am trying really hard to hold out on upgrading from my G2.
But I know I want to because the technology is so much better. What do you guys think will go on Post-HTC One S?
The thing that I wonder about most about the Galaxy S3 is, it will have the new quad-core Exynos chip. But this chip is based on ARM A9 on a 32nm process - our Snapdragon S4 Krait is based on ARM A15 @ 28nm. I'm going to wait for benchmarks, but I don't think that chip is going to blow away our One S at all.
Plus, if it is anything like every previous Samsung, it will be a cheap, crappy plastic build quality. Everyone who holds my One S is amazed at the slimness, weight and elegance of this phone. I'm glad that I didn't wait for Samsung.
Agreed i love my new htc one s
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The thing that I wonder about most about the Galaxy S3 is, it will have the new quad-core Exynos chip. But this chip is based on ARM A9 on a 32nm process - our Snapdragon S4 Krait is based on ARM A15 @ 28nm. I'm going to wait for benchmarks, but I don't think that chip is going to blow away our One S at all.
Plus, if it is anything like every previous Samsung, it will be a cheap, crappy plastic build quality. Everyone who holds my One S is amazed at the slimness, weight and elegance of this phone. I'm glad that I didn't wait for Samsung.
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Agree. Last two phones have been Tmo-sgs and sgs2...plastic builds..decent phones...horrible support. Dev community was great on sgs but people not devs were unbearable on sgs2. After getting the One S its heaps better than both in build and UI. Very satisfies with phone.
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kuroneko007 said:
The thing that I wonder about most about the Galaxy S3 is, it will have the new quad-core Exynos chip. But this chip is based on ARM A9 on a 32nm process - our Snapdragon S4 Krait is based on ARM A15 @ 28nm. I'm going to wait for benchmarks, but I don't think that chip is going to blow away our One S at all.
Plus, if it is anything like every previous Samsung, it will be a cheap, crappy plastic build quality. Everyone who holds my One S is amazed at the slimness, weight and elegance of this phone. I'm glad that I didn't wait for Samsung.
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The Exynos quad core destroys everything. Haven't you seen the benchmarks? Smokes the Krait and the Tegra 3.
It probably won't come to the US though, because it will probably lack LTE capabilities.
Yeah I don't believe it will be getting the quad core processor, I have read about that.
I guess I am stuck. I am due for upgrade. I have mobile freedom for once in my life... but I am very cautious to upgrade to the HTC One S with the SGS3 around the corner and talks of the Galaxy Note coming to TMobile also.
I think I would really enjoy the Note. Tablet + phone = awesome.
I will wait it out and see, but I don't think anything will be destroying the HTC One S processing power anytime soon unless you buy a universal phone for some reason. Even then, who needs 4 cores?!
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Yeah I don't believe it will be getting the quad core processor, I have read about that.
I guess I am stuck. I am due for upgrade. I have mobile freedom for once in my life... but I am very cautious to upgrade to the HTC One S with the SGS3 around the corner and talks of the Galaxy Note coming to TMobile also.
I think I would really enjoy the Note. Tablet + phone = awesome.
I will wait it out and see, but I don't think anything will be destroying the HTC One S processing power anytime soon unless you buy a universal phone for some reason. Even then, who needs 4 cores?!
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i had the atet and international notes. atet note sucked, tmobile note will probably be identical. international was much better with the exynos and all the development. I liked the intl note alot but decided to trade it for the One S. its up to you but I would not get the tmobile note unless it has the exynos, which it probably will not.
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Yeah I don't believe it will be getting the quad core processor, I have read about that.
I guess I am stuck. I am due for upgrade. I have mobile freedom for once in my life... but I am very cautious to upgrade to the HTC One S with the SGS3 around the corner and talks of the Galaxy Note coming to TMobile also.
I think I would really enjoy the Note. Tablet + phone = awesome.
I will wait it out and see, but I don't think anything will be destroying the HTC One S processing power anytime soon unless you buy a universal phone for some reason. Even then, who needs 4 cores?!
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I also agree if the note doesn't have exynos it isn't worth it..
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armyms25 said:
i had the atet and international notes. atet note sucked, tmobile note will probably be identical. international was much better with the exynos and all the development. I liked the intl note alot but decided to trade it for the One S. its up to you but I would not get the tmobile note unless it has the exynos, which it probably will not.
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I would more suggest choose phone or tablet... Phone + tablet = horrably big phone or to small tablet!
I don't think quad cores are anything to sing praises about in smartphones just yet, not until there's more to actually take advantage of them. Look at the One S vs One X, for example. Regardless of the resolution difference (which obviously has an impact), the One S certainly packs a punch against it with it's dual core.
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So what do you guys think about the next few weeks. The Samsung Galaxy S3, quad core phones coming to US, maybe new release for TMobile US. I am trying really hard to hold out on upgrading from my G2.
But I know I want to because the technology is so much better. What do you guys think will go on Post-HTC One S?
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The GS3 won't be announced till next week. After that, there will probably be an international launch, then an exclusitivity here in the states by AT&T, anywhere from 30-90 days. What this means is that even if T-Mobile picks up the phone, it won't be till Q4.
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I also agree if the note doesn't have exynos it isn't worth it..
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Yep trust us the S3 is not great at all the S4 in the one S is a huge step up!
So besides locked boot loader this POS at&t version is only dual core!!!???? Everything I read said quad core for both models, but chip was different htc one x I was just at at&t there is no quad core!??
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So besides locked boot loader this POS at&t version is only dual core!!!???? Everything I read said quad core for both models, but chip was different htc one x I was just at at&t there is no quad core!??
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Not sure where you have been reading but I recommend not reading there anymore.
Every article I have read clearly said the ATT model would be getting a dual core.
And if you've read the reviews you would know that the Dual Core actually preforms really well.
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Not sure where you have been reading but I recommend not reading there anymore.
Every article I have read clearly said the ATT model would be getting a dual core.
And if you've read the reviews you would know that the Dual Core actually preforms really well.
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I have a Gn so be step backwards, I've been reading for weeks and I never once seen dual core, ur 100% right but surprise to me, still can't find anywhere says dual for the one x . .... just ordered the real quad core one x, AT&t screwed up IMO. Thanks tho
You must have spent an extended period in a cave recently. It's been known for quite a while that the North American version of the One X would be shipping with the S4 in place of the Tegra 3, primarily due to the LTE support. It's also been known for quite some time that the S4 is actually (significantly) faster in most tasks while getting better battery life.
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I have a Gn so be step backwards, I've been reading for weeks and I never once seen dual core, ur 100% right but surprise to me, still can't find anywhere says dual for the one x . .... just ordered the real quad core one x, AT&t screwed up IMO. Thanks tho
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That's a mistake, the dual core S4 is actually a bit faster than the Quad Core tegra 3 by most measures.
Feels like you're trying to mess with us
Sounds like trolling to me. This has been common knowledge forever.
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So besides locked boot loader this POS at&t version is only dual core!!!???? Everything I read said quad core for both models, but chip was different htc one x I was just at at&t there is no quad core!??
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The AT&T version is much better than the international version in terms of hardware.
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So besides locked boot loader this POS at&t version is only dual core!!!???? Everything I read said quad core for both models, but chip was different htc one x I was just at at&t there is no quad core!??
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Are you trolling? The S4 is superior.. Whatever.
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Not sure where you have been reading but I recommend not reading there anymore.
Every article I have read clearly said the ATT model would be getting a dual core.
And if you've read the reviews you would know that the Dual Core actually preforms really well.
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Must be Fox new
Watch out guys, I think we're dealing with a 12 year old over here.
Cores != performance.
Wow... Just wow. 4 A9 cores are not better than two A15 (sorta) cores
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That's an erm... interesting analogy
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The AT&T version is much better than the international version in terms of hardware.
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I know you're an AT&T employee and all, however, it's still lacking a microSD card slot (same as international - not better), the GPU is weaker (unless if you are running either: old benchmark, or qualcomm created benchmark), the storage space is less (32GB vs 16 GB - and don't give any hoopla on OMGUSELTE or whatnot on our limited plans - no idealisms of how we are supposed to use said limited plans, either), and finally, the damn pogo pins are offset vs the HTC One X (Tegra 3) device, ensuring no compatibility with devices designed to use the Tegra 3 (prime) versions docking pins.
Yes, it has better battery life, but that's a serious stretch vs all the other so-called, "better," hardware (comming from an AT&T-ified LG Nitro HD, anything, really, could have better battery life for me; luckily I was within 30 days when I first heard of this device comming out).
Edit: however, to the OP, yes, the dual core Krait CPU from qualcomm is generally better in about every way vs the quad core A9-based CPU from nVidia - nVidia's work on the Kernal nonwithstanding (afaik, all Tegra 3 One X still use older 2.x kernal customized by nVidia, vs 3.x kernal used by all Qualcomm Krait (S4) devices).
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I know you're an AT&T employee and all, however, it's still lacking a microSD card slot (same as international - not better), the GPU is weaker (unless if you are running either: old benchmark, or qualcomm created benchmark), the storage space is less (32GB vs 16 GB - and don't give any hoopla on OMGUSELTE or whatnot on our limited plans - no idealisms of how we are supposed to use said limited plans, either), and finally, the damn pogo pins are offset vs the HTC One X (Tegra 3) device, ensuring no compatibility with devices designed to use the Tegra 3 (prime) versions docking pins.
Yes, it has better battery life, but that's a serious stretch vs all the other so-called, "better," hardware (comming from an AT&T-ified LG Nitro HD, anything, really, could have better battery life for me; luckily I was within 30 days when I first heard of this device comming out).
Edit: however, to the OP, yes, the dual core Krait CPU from qualcomm is generally better in about every way vs the quad core A9-based CPU from nVidia - nVidia's work on the Kernal nonwithstanding (afaik, all Tegra 3 One X still use older 2.x kernal customized by nVidia, vs 3.x kernal used by all Qualcomm Krait (S4) devices).
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The international dock isn't even out yet (and if it is out now then it's super recent), so that doesn't matter, we'll get ours soon.
And so far it seems that our HOX have had less reports of defects (hope it stays that way too! haha)
I totally agree with everything else you said though.
Dual core has been talked about for awhile. I believe they went with the dual core snap because the tegra 3 chipset was not compatible with the LTE setup. Correct me if I'm wrong
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Im getting a bad vibe from this thread. There are some good posts here, but the overall feel is trolling. I believe we also have a few threads open that talk about the differences of S4 versus Tegra3, so any further discussion on that can be taken there.
Thanks guys, but thread closed.