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[Q] Tethering on Simple Mobile?

Hi,
My girlfriend just flew over to the states for a visit. I loaned her my Nexus One running CM7 and she just loaded a Simple Mobile SIM on it, with 3G and all.
In the Simple Mobile FAQ, it's stated that tethering is not allowed. Can I presume that this just means that the phones Simple Mobile provides have tethering disabled? My Nexus One is running CM7 and tethering is definitely enabled on it. So by right, if she just enables tethering on it, she should be able to use it. Unless Simple Mobile has something that can detect a NAT'd connection and blocks it server-side, which I'm not sure is possible or not.
Anyone knows?
Thanks!
Wong

Quick answer = apparently they can detect when a phone is being used as a tether. I'm not sure how yet, but aim to find out.
And apparently it's not just Simple Mobile phones. I'm using a TMOUSA HTC HD2 running CM7 using wireless tethering app from the market. SM txt'd me today saying I was at risk of my data plan being suspended due to violation of SM's Terms and Conditions.

Every carrier is doing this. Tethering is not allowed without a plan for it. Not alot you can do about it.

[Q] Is there a way you can use the phone modem?

Hello. I want to know if there is a way to use this phone modem in the Computer?
but watch out, I'm not talking about Tethering or using a tether APP like PDANet, etc. I just want to have my Phone modem available in my pc, so I can use it in an application and connect to the internet throught this software. I need it this way because although I can use, it Internet in my PC by several ways (USB tether, Wifi hotspot, etc) I need to use an Aplication to avoid my 3G speed to downgrade after I consume my quota.

You are not gonna be able to bypass the limit. No matter what you do there is no way to use the internet and make it look like your not.

Ok. That's what I think, but a friend of mine claims he has a software that trick your carrier, and I wanna try it. Anway there are ways (with applications and settings) to use the Internet of your mobile phone for free. Those methods need to access to your phone modem.
Since no modem appear in the device manager, just a network device, it is impossible to use those methods with this phone
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You can't get free internet. If your friend knows so much about this special software you would think that your friend would have told you how to conect your phone. But anyways.....install HTC Sync on your pc and it will install the drivers for the phone to be used as a modem.

Agoattamer said:
You can't get free internet. If your friend knows so much about this special software you would think that your friend would have told you how to conect your phone. But anyways.....install HTC Sync on your pc and it will install the drivers for the phone to be used as a modem.
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I do can get free internet, but you have to have the phone modem available and special software and settings. I have HTC Sync installed. The thing is that phone modem doesn't appear, just a network device and I can do nothing with that.
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I dont know what trying to steal from the network providers has to do with android/phone development. You are best off to just either pay for what you use or have your friend that is bragging about stealing internet help you with doing the same.
personally i bet hes lying to you just to make you waste time trying to find a way lol

Darunion said:
I dont know what trying to steal from the network providers has to do with android/phone development. You are best off to just either pay for what you use or have your friend that is bragging about stealing internet help you with doing the same.
personally i bet hes lying to you just to make you waste time trying to find a way lol
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Forget about tricking you carrier about data quota, I was exceptic about it, and I think is not posible. but I am sure there are ways of having free internet in your computer throught your GSM network without paying a cent, at least in my country (A friend of mine connects to the internet like this). The thing is that you have to have a USB 3G modem or you can use your mobile phone, but you need to have your device modem available.

Yeah, its called tethering. But you have to pay for the 3G internet connection through your mobile carrier. Nothing free. Unless you BORROW your nieghbor's wifi.

Agoattamer said:
Yeah, its called tethering. But you have to pay for the 3G internet connection through your mobile carrier. Nothing free.
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OMG. you think you are talking with a little boy. I know what Tethering is. Look my signatute, it is a speedtest result that I got doing Tethering.

ok guys lets let it go. Bottom line is there is no way to do what your asking. No matter what you do, packets will be sent over the data stream and this will be logged. You would have to make all data packet have a size of zero and not hit any towers or the server. This is not going to happen. Every single kb your phone sends out is logged. From the small 1kb used for an mms to the 4mbs used for an app download.
Also there is no way to access the hardware phone modem. To be honest I think your friend is lying to you

zelendel said:
ok guys lets let it go. Bottom line is there is no way to do what your asking. No matter what you do, packets will be sent over the data stream and this will be logged. You would have to make all data packet have a size of zero and not hit any towers or the server. This is not going to happen. Every single kb your phone sends out is logged. From the small 1kb used for an mms to the 4mbs used for an app download.
Also there is no way to access the hardware phone modem. To be honest I think your friend is lying to you
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Ok. About the data plan quota I'm done. I doubt you can avoid that. But regarding free internet in your computer through your GSM network, that is true. But as I far as I can see, There is no way to have this device modem available.
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Free wifi

when I am in the states I can connect to all the free wifi spots in airports and i can connect to the web thru them. but when I am over seas I cannot connect to the available free networks. it shows i am connected and have an ip address but i cant actually connect to the web and i can't d/l my email. i have tried everything i can think of and in fact when I had my Iphone, i had no issues connecting to the exact same networks
i am on the AT&T unlimited data plan grandfathered in from my iphone days
this issue existed when the phone was completely stock also.
can anybody shed some light on this?
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tpickel said:
when I am in the states I can connect to all the free wifi spots in airports and i can connect to the web thru them. but when I am over seas I cannot connect to the available free networks. it shows i am connected and have an ip address but i cant actually connect to the web and i can't d/l my email. i have tried everything i can think of and in fact when I had my Iphone, i had no issues connecting to the exact same networks
i am on the AT&T unlimited data plan grandfathered in from my iphone days
this issue existed when the phone was completely stock also.
can anybody shed some light on this?
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I probably do not know enough about this, but maybe deleting your wifi past history will help. Maybe changing roms to a newer one then the old infused would help also, idk if that would help though.

Ryanscool said:
I probably do not know enough about this, but maybe deleting your wifi past history will help. Maybe changing roms to a newer one then the old infused would help also, idk if that would help though.
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thanks for the reply... i have deleted the wifi history. the infused ROM is a solid rom and I had this prob when the phone was stock as well.
i cant help but think there is a setting or something in the config that need to be changed....
anybody else...?
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The problem is within the DNS server IP from wherever the wifi source is coming from. Theres types of wifi that interact differently than actual wifi internet, and they dont actually grant internet access. I could be wrong but im almost positive that is the issue.
Just as an example of what im trying to say. I have a wireless printer. When i open my wifi networks it pops up as a selectable wifi. I connect to it. Get an ip and everything but the printer cant produce a DNS server IP for internet access.
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MaliciousIntent69 said:
The problem is within the DNS server IP from wherever the wifi source is coming from. Theres types of wifi that interact differently than actual wifi internet, and they dont actually grant internet access. I could be wrong but im almost positive that is the issue.
Just as an example of what im trying to say. I have a wireless printer. When i open my wifi networks it pops up as a selectable wifi. I connect to it. Get an ip and everything but the printer cant produce a DNS server IP for internet access.
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the wifi signal is coming from the free wireless router inside the Dubai airport. it is really frustraing because every one around me with wireless devices can access the internet and skype and i cannot. i have tried everything... i was a network admin about 15 years ago when Windows NT was the latest and greatest... i have since moved on... this issue is eating my lunch.
anyone have any ideas... i leave in 3 days to head back over seas...
thanks
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MaliciousIntent69 said:
The problem is within the DNS server IP from wherever the wifi source is coming from. Theres types of wifi that interact differently than actual wifi internet, and they dont actually grant internet access. I could be wrong but im almost positive that is the issue.
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It might say free, but might not be really. I was in London, Frankfurt and Paris, and though it says its open and everything, it actually needs you pay and register.
From all I know, it connects, but none of the apps except browser works. And when you try to open anything in browser, it takes you to their internal page and asks to pay and things like that.
Maybe you need to check out from the source which hosts the WiFi to check out what it needs.

diablo009 said:
It might say free, but might not be really. I was in London, Frankfurt and Paris, and though it says its open and everything, it actually needs you pay and register.
From all I know, it connects, but none of the apps except browser works. And when you try to open anything in browser, it takes you to their internal page and asks to pay and things like that.
Maybe you need to check out from the source which hosts the WiFi to check out what it needs.
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thanks for the reply...
it is free... as i stated in my OP, i had no problems with my iPhone. The only difference now is the phone and any settings that AT&T may have changed when i change from the iphone to the Infuse (they are telling me that nothing has changed). I have also talked to the service provider and my travelling companions, who use the service with no probs (they all use iphones)
i will be going back there tomorrow. i am wondering if there are any settings on my phone that i can change to try to get this to work, because i have exhausted all other options.
anyone else?
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tpickel said:
thanks for the reply...
it is free... as i stated in my OP, i had no problems with my iPhone. The only difference now is the phone and any settings that AT&T may have changed when i change from the iphone to the Infuse (they are telling me that nothing has changed). I have also talked to the service provider and my travelling companions, who use the service with no probs (they all use iphones)
i will be going back there tomorrow. i am wondering if there are any settings on my phone that i can change to try to get this to work, because i have exhausted all other options.
anyone else?
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Sorry, I guess I missed that point in your post.

idk dude. As diablo mentioned I would poke around your browser a bit. In France, hitting anything that Orange sponsored, (essentially their ATT I learned with time), I was able to get a little button that gave me wifi free for 15 minutes. Other than that maybe try asking someone that got on! Idk. That might work. If you speak the language. Good luck man. It is there! Just find it.
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well... i have made back to the states and i found that the wifi network in question is just way too overloaded... if you have a laptop then its hit or miss... if you have a mobile device then your s.o.l.
back in my iphone days i guess the wifi network in question didnt get as much traffic.
the wifi network is the only free wifi in Dubai airport. it is called Maxspot.
i am confident it isnt just my phone... everybody was having the same issues.
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tpickel said:
I have also talked to the service provider and my travelling companions, who use the service with no probs (they all use iphones)
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tpickel said:
well... i have made back to the states and i found that the wifi network in question is just way too overloaded... if you have a laptop then its hit or miss... if you have a mobile device then your s.o.l.
back in my iphone days i guess the wifi network in question didnt get as much traffic.
the wifi network is the only free wifi in Dubai airport. it is called Maxspot.
i am confident it isnt just my phone... everybody was having the same issues.
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Wait...didnt you just say your companions didnt have the same problem, but now you say everyone had the same problem??? Lol were they messing with you ?
anyways at least your back home with wifi/unlimited data...and i agree...in crowded networks the mobile devices get kicked out first
And last for your above question about att changing something...there is no chane att can make that would effect you phone...all they provide is phone service...as in calls, sms, and data...they dont provide wifi so they cant stop it or block it.
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Anyone using tethering?

Read that someone got the 15 dollar charge added for mobile ap, but has anyone been able to usb tether without issues? I'm on a custom Rom, but was looking at the built in tether support
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May be useless for you, but tethering (through USB and WiFi) works just fine here in Russia. No additional charges, of course.

Well I'm glad to know it works on the sk, but I guess I was wondering more about how T-Mobile likes it. If anyone knows that, maybe they can let me know
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Hey there Shadowscott, i have been using the tethering and mobile access point feature of my sidekick for a long while and i can say that T-Mobile does not seem to have any issues with it. Keep in mind that i am using it on an unlimited data plan and it may act differently on a different plan.

I have always used Barnacle Wi-Fi Tether without any problems. It even works on the 200 MB data plan! :good:

Just use any root tether app, and you will be fine, unless you do it like my buddy that's on my account and use up 30gb. So far we just got a warning but i think he started using the stock app by accident.

I have a work-around for the native tethering app. But it requires apktools, smali editing.

Using KD1, and in the middle of a two-year stay in Greece, I'm able to connect with stock tether app and Greece's Cosmote phone service (even tethering to a Windows CE device).
Also, for anybody traveling with an unlocked Sidekick 4G, your US phone can get 3G in Europe. That's because the German TMobile uses both Band I and IV within its 2100 channel. TMobile's HTC Touch Pro2 also gets 3G, along with other higher-end TMobile phones.
Jake

USB Tethering solution
shadowscott said:
Read that someone got the 15 dollar charge added for mobile ap, but has anyone been able to usb tether without issues? I'm on a custom Rom, but was looking at the built in tether support
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Hey there!
I use USB tethering on my sidekick, and the problem is that they WANT you to pay the 15 dollars to pay for tethering. They can't just charge you for the service, that's illegal. At any rate, the way around this (sometimes t-mobile, for example, won't allow you to USB tether, and will cut off your tethering) is to use Google Chrome. You can download an add-on in their market-- search "User agent" and I currently use the "Ultimate User Agent Switcher, URL Sniffer", which is a red circle, with two arrows wrapping around each other. You then set your setting to Android 2.3, and now your laptop registers as your phone to your phone company. You will be 'mobile browsing' technically, you just have to make sure to click 'desktop' options when available on websites.
Note: This method is legal, as I was given it from a T-mobile representative, so please don't think this is some underhanded method for 'stealing'.

Unrooted tethering

I have a 60+ year old friend who no longer has Internet, but uses her galaxy 10. She has a laptop she would like to tether to her galaxy.
She does not want to have her device rooted, so what are my options in helping her?
Thank you
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Foxfi(may have been renamed to pdanet+) on the phone, and Pdanet on the laptop. Just be careful, some people have had their data throttled or they have been dropped by their carrier for circumventing the tethering fee. I only mention this because you state that it will be her main source for the internet.

Thanks. I'll mention it to her.
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I've had luck with tethering to my laptop and not getting heat from my carrier. However, I'm running. Chrome OS from an SD card when i do it. Both AT&T and T-Mob have sent me warnings on a Windows and Mac computer. Just a suggestion on bypassing that hassle w/o doing a major overhaul on an operating system.
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RodMyers said:
She has a laptop she would like to tether to her galaxy. She does not want to have her device rooted, so what are my options in helping her?
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If she has an N8000 i.e., the 3G (International) model, all she needs is "directions"
Settings->Wireless and Network->More Settings->Tethering and Portable Hotspot

kcrudup said:
If she has an N8000 i.e., the 3G (International) model, all she needs is "directions"
Settings->Wireless and Network->More Settings->Tethering and Portable Hotspot
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Mobile providers often have provisions added to their device's OS that inhibit tethering via the built in method, which will need root to freeze/delete said provision. Hate to be the bummer, but that's the breaks. Our goal here is sans root, so the PDA net/ foxfi route may be their best bet.

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Mobile providers often have provisions added to their device's OS that inhibit tethering via the built in method
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Yes, but the only N8000 variant that does this is the Verizon Note 10.1.

I'm aware. But the fact still remains, the built in tethering option is usually blocked by the mobile carrier(Mobile or tablet, still android. OS). When i had my Fascinate, tethering was out of the question w/o root.
Of the question unless i gained root a be flashed a different ROM,
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We're talking specifically about the 3G Note 10.1; if its not the VZ model, there's no "carrier" to get in the way. They usually don't screw with OS features outside the US.

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Afronicus said:
Right... Which leads me, again, to my point: a mobile carrier ( Verizon in the states ) may (will) block the built in tethering capabilities of the OS. Doesn't matter who is the carrier for your data on your tablet, they'll want to collect on your unsanctioned tethering. Your wi-fi tablets will not have the ability to function as a hot spot. You've either got a 3g tablet(which could tether ) or wi-fi tablet. Get what I'm saying? Is not about model (is irrelevant overall, you'd know if your tablet had mobile data or not.) but about the capability of tethering that I'm writing about.
But more importantly, have you (OP) been able to help your friend?
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She's been hesitant to mess with her "contract", so we've not tried anything.
Thank you for all of the suggestions
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