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mobile wifi router (does it cost extra?)

Hi i have mobile wifi router installed on my phone (came with duttys rom) and i was wondering if using it my network could tell and charge me extra?
I have an unlimited data plan but i know I could pay an extra £10 and then my phone could be used as a mobile boradband device, does this mean that if i try to use the mobile wifi router program that my carrier would be able to tell and block it or charge me extra?
Also is there a way to share the phone connection with a pc without using wifi and without having to buy the networks extra mobile boradband package because I will almost never use it but its good to know i have the option if i go on holiday or whatever, maybe i want to prows the web in the garden soemthing like that

no wifi works even if you don't have a sim card in the phone
just like pda's with wifi and no phone
just like your laptop connecting with wifi to the router
just like your desktop connecting with wifi or cable to the router

no its not that, mobile wifi router converts your phone into a router so your laptop/whatever can connect to it and use its data connection to connect to the internet, I was just wondering if doing this the network can tell and then charge me extra as they usually charge for using your phone as an internet access point

the connection from the phone to the laptop or computer is free anything wifi
the cost to go onto internet will however depend on your satat rates, just to be sure id ask your operator

Hi thanks for trying to help, but thats not what I was asking. I know wifi connections are free what I was asking is if my operator will be able to tell the difference between my phone using its data connection and my laptop using my phones data connection.
The reason I ask is that I have unlimited data for my phone.
but
you can pay extra money to upgrade your account to allow your phone to be used as a mobile broadband dongle
but if they can't tell the difference between phone using its data and pc using its data then there is no need to pay the extra money.
is this the case or am i missing something

Depending on your operator, there could be a max of MB's. So it might be 500 MB/month, but also unlimited internet. With that, you are able to use it without any extra costs.

Is it possible to somewhat put up a wifi network on your phone via some program (WiFi Router is one I think) and connect to it and use it ON your phone?

aaah teething
as far as I know they should not be able to detect it
but I could be mistaken

If the usage is large 500MB/month, carrier might suspect unusual activity. teething is paid service with some carriers.

I have a G1 tethered on T-mobile USA. I have talked to customer service. They said they do not support tethering but that it is not illegal. Their solution is to allow a soft cap of 10gb of data service with their unlimited plan and once you reach the cap they throttle the internet speed down from 3g to 2g levels. Not to horrible. I play all my online games with my G1 connection, Counter Strike Source, Perfect World International, Flyff, and download quite a bit of music and usually only reach about 300mb a day which gives me a full month of service before i reach that cap. And at the start of the new month I get reset.

I´m in the same situation.
I´ve got an unlimited data plan, which covers phone/PDA use, but EXCLUDES using the device as a modem for a PC/Laptop (tethering).
I´ve tethered it ocasionally, and it worked.
My carrier didnt charge me extra, nor blocked. BUT i know the risk exists. I´ve tried to research.
What i read is that carrier COULD tell if you are tethering by traffic analysis (one way is looking the user agent of your web pages request, which identifies yor browser), but that this traffic analysys is not practical, and most carriers dont do it....by now.
So of you tether ocasionally, you are safe.....today, ....until carriers perceive there is a number significant enough to make profits,of people tethering under a data plan intented just for phone use, then they can start charging you.

jdshifflett said:
I have a G1 tethered on T-mobile USA. I have talked to customer service. They said they do not support tethering but that it is not illegal. Their solution is to allow a soft cap of 10gb of data service with their unlimited plan and once you reach the cap they throttle the internet speed down from 3g to 2g levels. Not to horrible. I play all my online games with my G1 connection, Counter Strike Source, Perfect World International, Flyff, and download quite a bit of music and usually only reach about 300mb a day which gives me a full month of service before i reach that cap. And at the start of the new month I get reset.
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ha nice, well im gonna give it a go anyway and see what happens, its just funny that they specifically advertise to upgrade your account to be able to do this as if they can somehow tell. I dunno what mobile boradband is like in the us but in the uk there advertising it all over the place as if its someting people really need instead of something that is ocasionally useful, apart from in your case its mad how much you do through your phone.

sirgawain123 said:
I´m in the same situation.
I´ve got an unlimited data plan, which covers phone/PDA use, but EXCLUDES using the device as a modem for a PC/Laptop (tethering).
I´ve tethered it ocasionally, and it worked.
My carrier didnt charge me extra, nor blocked. BUT i know the risk exists. I´ve tried to research.
What i read is that carrier COULD tell if you are tethering by traffic analysis (one way is looking the user agent of your web pages request, which identifies yor browser), but that this traffic analysys is not practical, and most carriers dont do it....by now.
So of you tether ocasionally, you are safe.....today, ....until carriers perceive there is a number significant enough to make profits,of people tethering under a data plan intented just for phone use, then they can start charging you.
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thanks for this, if the only thing they can do to check is by the web requests of your browser surely there is a way to pretend to be opera mobile for example which should receive the full web anyway. Anyway as you say I won;t be using it much if at all so if i do fancy it i think ill just take the risk and see what happens worse they can do is charge me a little extra and i may even be able to avoid that by pleeding ignorance

ArtieQ said:
Is it possible to somewhat put up a wifi network on your phone via some program (WiFi Router is one I think) and connect to it and use it ON your phone?
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I don't quite understand this question, you could use the program i mentioned to make your phone into a wifi access point and use its data connection to the internet then anything you like could then connect to it e.g. another phone, psp, ps3 laptop .....
is that what you ment?

Fully utilizing internet connecting mode for bittorrent

[Win7]
When using the internet connection mode does the phone have a built in firewall or port blocker? My laptop was already connected to the internet through my home's WiFI internet and I was downloading off bittorrent using µTorrent. I was getting decent download speeds on my torrents, but almost nothing on upload. Knowing that the LTE network is more balanced and generally faster than my home network I connected my phone to my laptop via usb and selected internet connection mode.
At this time I noticed no difference and opened task manager to check network utilization. Task manager showed that my home network connection was being used and LTE was not being utilized at all. So I disconnected from my home network and waited for µTorrent to adjust to my phone's connection. After tinkering with some settings in µTorrent it showed the "!" at the bottom right notifying me that either the port I've selected is blocked or some other setting is stopping my connection from being used to it's full potential. I again check task manager and as far as network utilization goes it was around ~1% and my download speeds are far from what they should be, and far worse than when I was just on WiFi.
So I connect back to the WiFi and µTorrent starts behaving how it did before I tried to use my phone. Task manager shows more activity on the WiFi connection and still around 1% for the phone's connection.
My concern is how can I maximize LTE's potential when for bittorrent. Is there some kind of built in port blocker or firewall element? Or is it some kind of protection set up by Verizon and they know I'm using their network for bittorrent? I was getting consistent 5MBps Down and Up when I tested my laptop using internet connection mode, so network stability shouldn't be the issue. Any thoughts?

I haven't tested it, but I'd be willing to bet that the built-in internet sharing mode on the phone blocks certain ports. You could try using a tethering app like EasyTether or PDAnet.
Are you rooted? You could try Wireless Tether for Root Users, and see if you get any different results with that, too. I had some issues using VPN from my OG Droid because there were some blocked ports when using USB tethering, but once I rooted and started using Wireless Tether, all my problems went away. It'd be worth checking out. If you're not rooted, I would imagine that the wifi hotspot would act the same way (although it's only free for another week or so).

Sweet! Another person who's going to get us capped.

Ya, runniNg bittorents off your phone is RETARDED
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EEdaesung said:
[Win7]
When using the internet connection mode does the phone have a built in firewall or port blocker? My laptop was already connected to the internet through my home's WiFI internet and I was downloading off bittorrent using µTorrent. I was getting decent download speeds on my torrents, but almost nothing on upload. Knowing that the LTE network is more balanced and generally faster than my home network I connected my phone to my laptop via usb and selected internet connection mode.
At this time I noticed no difference and opened task manager to check network utilization. Task manager showed that my home network connection was being used and LTE was not being utilized at all. So I disconnected from my home network and waited for µTorrent to adjust to my phone's connection. After tinkering with some settings in µTorrent it showed the "!" at the bottom right notifying me that either the port I've selected is blocked or some other setting is stopping my connection from being used to it's full potential. I again check task manager and as far as network utilization goes it was around ~1% and my download speeds are far from what they should be, and far worse than when I was just on WiFi.
So I connect back to the WiFi and µTorrent starts behaving how it did before I tried to use my phone. Task manager shows more activity on the WiFi connection and still around 1% for the phone's connection.
My concern is how can I maximize LTE's potential when for bittorrent. Is there some kind of built in port blocker or firewall element? Or is it some kind of protection set up by Verizon and they know I'm using their network for bittorrent? I was getting consistent 5MBps Down and Up when I tested my laptop using internet connection mode, so network stability shouldn't be the issue. Any thoughts?
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I'm sure they block ports, and to be honest, I sincerely hope they block torrenting on a cell phone. Why not use your wifi?

As others have already stated use your home internet connection as I like having unlimited data.
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eallan said:
I'm sure they block ports, and to be honest, I sincerely hope they block torrenting on a cell phone. Why not use your wifi?
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It's because LTE's upload speeds are superior to my home connection. And for people worried about getting capped, there is no way I could get within the 10% of users who are throttled.
^_^_^

It's people like you that are going to ruin it for the legitimate rest of us. There is absolutely zero reason you should be torrenting on your phone, thats what your home connection is for. As mentioned earlier I hope that they do block the ports as I love my unlimited data plan knowing that I don't have to check my usage every 3 minutes like I would with att and their 2gb limit.
So in short, stop doing what your doing and ruining it for the rest of the U.S.

EEdaesung said:
It's because LTE's upload speeds are superior to my home connection. And for people worried about getting capped, there is no way I could get within the 10% of users who are throttled.
^_^_^
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Neither matters soon Verizon will take away the unlimited tethering plan and you will be sol. Even if you use a rooted wireless hotspot Verizon will know when you start racking up the gbs.
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I didn't realize it was such a big deal. Especially since it's a service I pay for, and I wasn't planning on torrenting the entire internet.
Since there are so many concerns of losing unlimited data, I'll think twice before using my phone's network to do any heavy downloading or uploading.
^_^_^

EEdaesung said:
I didn't realize it was such a big deal. Especially since it's a service I pay for, and I wasn't planning on torrenting the entire internet.
Since there are so many concerns of losing unlimited data, I'll think twice before using my phone's network to do any heavy downloading or uploading.
^_^_^
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First off you are not paying for the Mobile Hotspot service it is free until May 15th.
Second as of right now there is no real threat of losing the unlimited plan. Verizon has not said anything about taking it away and as of right now you could up and download 100gb of data and Verizon may say nothing. The problem is that we just don't know. We could wake up tomorrow and all have capped plans (As it is in the contract we all signed when we bought our phones Verizon can change the details of the data plans basically at any time they want) Yes there is like a 1% chance of this happening at the PR Verizon would get from this would most likely run them into the ground but the thought is still out there. And for most of us who only use ~5gb of data per month or less just don't want to worry about that odd month when maybe some new series comes out and they use 50gb.
TLDR: As of right now its more of just a fear of losing it than anything else and not really something to be too worried about ATM.

EEdaesung said:
I didn't realize it was such a big deal. Especially since it's a service I pay for, and I wasn't planning on torrenting the entire internet.
Since there are so many concerns of losing unlimited data, I'll think twice before using my phone's network to do any heavy downloading or uploading.
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Or at least posting here about doing so.

EEdaesung said:
It's because LTE's upload speeds are superior to my home connection. And for people worried about getting capped, there is no way I could get within the 10% of users who are throttled.
^_^_^
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There is a difference in using a phone to web browse, or to watch a movie or whatever, and maxing it out 24/7 and saturating the connection to torrent.
One is a bad idea IMO.

Got it guys. I agree with all previous posts. I don't want to get capped either and I won't be a factor towards it.
^_^_^

That's bull...you pay for it you use it how you want...I dare Verizon to come at me already and I told them I'm rooted...I ruin my OG Droid and they still replaced it...they make hundreds of millions of dollars and I pay an already high phone bill...too bad there is already an Frostwire app

currensy said:
That's bull...you pay for it you use it how you want...I dare Verizon to come at me already and I told them I'm rooted...I ruin my OG Droid and they still replaced it...they make hundreds of millions of dollars and I pay an already high phone bill...too bad there is already an Frostwire app
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LOL. Another reprobate weighs in.
"you pay for it you use it how you want"
So, exactly how much are you "paying" for tethering (not that which is currently offered as a freebie, but the theft of services your comment implies)? Your comment might be better phrased "you pay for it, I use it," since it's going to be paid for by someone, and if not by those who rationalize stealing it, then by the rest of us.
"they make hundreds of millions of dollars"
I'm guessing (assuming you're not still in Jr. High, as your attitude suggests), that you make thousands of dollars. So, I'd be justified in stealing from you, by your logic.
"I pay an already high phone bill"
If it's too high, it's very easy to cancel the service. Obviously, since you're posting in the TB forum, you have one, which means you've recently renewed your service. Which is it - you agreed that the value per dollar was acceptable, or you're just stupid?

You have to disable other connections after enabling internet sharing mode. Windows doesnt magically switch to a better connection on its own.
People should also remember that torrent does not mean illegal. He never mentioned what he was downloading. Apparently no one else in this thread has ever downloaded a linux distro, since bittorent is a primary way to do it. Certain games and game content are distributed legally through bittorent as well along with other software (generally opensource stuff).
The other day I didn't want to wait 30 minutes for aptitude to update my system on my 630KB/s average DSL, so I plugged in my phone to internet sharing on LTE and it was done in < 5minutes @ 2500KB/s average.
Verizon's network does not block ports as far as I know, but you are behind NAT, so you aren't going to be running any sort of server either on the public internet or easily connecting to your phone from a remote location.

Why do people take threads like this off the rails so quickly? The OP asked a simple question that didn't really warrant a philosophical decision. Imposing your will on the miniscule number of TB users who visit XDA won't make any appreciable impact on Verizon's attitude towards sanctioned network use.
OP, please report back if following "yareally"'s suggestion of disabling other connections works once ICS is enabled. Also, are you able to bridge your connection to the TB's in Windows? It'd be sweet to be able to merge WiFi (for speed) with LTE (for reliability).

currensy said:
That's bull...you pay for it you use it how you want...I dare Verizon to come at me already and I told them I'm rooted...I ruin my OG Droid and they still replaced it...they make hundreds of millions of dollars and I pay an already high phone bill...too bad there is already an Frostwire app
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If you use frostwire... you probably still have a myspace...
Lol at your made-up story, VZW is here on XDA also... they just might come at you bro...
In regards to the OP, lol at anyone who thinks this one single guy is going to be the downfall of unlimited data...

Nooter said:
OP, please report back if following "yareally"'s suggestion of disabling other connections works once ICS is enabled. Also, are you able to bridge your connection to the TB's in Windows? It'd be sweet to be able to merge WiFi (for speed) with LTE (for reliability).
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Nope, cant bridge them in windows and use both (that is, it's not as simple as selecting both connections and clicking bridge). There's some ways to distribute their use over *nix and/or using a router and using them as separate connections, but it's not worth the time/effort. If you're really interested in doing it, there's some discussions about it on the xda forums already and elsewhere if you google around.

AT&T killing of illegal tethering?

I couldnt get my phone to tether last night and i saw a few people mention in other custom rom forums that it wasnt working... I was just wondering if anybody else could try if your on custom rom to see if its on my end or if at&t is cracking down? im on apex9.0 and talon 4.4.13 my tethering has always worked before???
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Well.. I was ready to post and just tell you 'no its still working' cus i used it just last night. But I just tried using my capt to connect via wifi and although it connects like normal and says internet, when you try and reach the outside world it gives you a "invalid IP" thing on the windows 7 troubleshooter program. Tried tethering and got the same thing, even though it says connected..
Decided to see if it was just my android, so pulled out my windows mobile 6.5 phone that can tether and fired it up... connects just fine, im posting from it now. So i guess maybe they just figured out a way to break however android does it? Bummer.. anyone else able to give it a try?
I use cognition rom fyi.. has always worked before. I'll try again here in a bit...

Works for me
Don't know what the difference is but I just tried tethering on mine still using the older Precetion Beta 2 rom and it seems to work without any problems.

Oops spoke too soon... rebooted computer and phone and now it works.. shoulda fiddled with it more i guess.
Tried via wifi and tethering, on tethering now. Both worked.. so confirmed working on android and WM.. so no they havent been able to break it yet.. muahahaha!
You had me all upset though that I'd have to switch my damn sim card over to another phone to tether each time

Seeing this thread scared me... I dont use it that often but I am paranoid AT&T will find a way to stop us one day and I wont realize it only to find out when I need it most.

Ill have to try again when i get off of work, but i couldnt get it to work fof the life of me!
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I just tried, worked great. Using continuum
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Working on my Cappy (CM7), for now

Working on mine....using continuum 6.1....
BTW, there was a big solar flare came through last night or the night before....my phone was acting weird yesterday

Must have been the talon test kernel or something because i flashed new test tonight and all is working well
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I don't see what the big deal is, if you have a data plan and available bytes to use not sure why ATT restricts wifi tethering. I downloaded a Mandriva linux cd iso onto my phone the other day, some 680 megabytes. I can pretty much do on my android what I do on my computer. If you have the data to use on your plan, not sure why ATT cares how you use it.
Just more innovative ways to screw the customer.
And my wifi tether works fine too, must be the solar flares.

It's more directed towards people with unlimited data plans and use large amounts of data instead of using a home internet connection.
They say these users big down the network for others that use the service normally. For those of us on tiered data plans it shouldn't matter.
I'm not saying I agree with them, just trying to explain it.
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Hmmm, looks like I don't use my data soooooo much lol cause I can still tether

artvandalay22222 said:
It's more directed towards people with unlimited data plans and use large amounts of data instead of using a home internet connection.
They say these users big down the network for others that use the service normally. For those of us on tiered data plans it shouldn't matter.
I'm not saying I agree with them, just trying to explain it.
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It matters to them even for tiered plans because people who tether use more data (that they are paying for). This prevents them from overselling their network. Like an airplane or a fitness gym, they want to sell you the service and get your money. They don't actually want you to use it to your fullest or they will be overwhelmed.

Still works for me, it's a damn shame they don't have unlimited data anymore.

For your entertainment, CNN has posted something related -
http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/mobile/08/12/carriers.stop.tethering.gahran/index.html?hpt=te_bn4
and this one too -
http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/mobile/08/12/avoid.tethering.fees.gahran/index.html?hpt=te_bn1

artvandalay22222 said:
It's more directed towards people with unlimited data plans and use large amounts of data instead of using a home internet connection.
They say these users big down the network for others that use the service normally. For those of us on tiered data plans it shouldn't matter.
I'm not saying I agree with them, just trying to explain it.
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That is not true. I work for At&t from what i've read in our LSO classes we take everday, is that At&t will be able to see the MAC id of the device you are tethering with. So when they cross check the MAC id with your device, because your device's "MAC" will always identify itself when it talks which is everytime it has to communicate with a tower.
So if they catch you now after Aug 11, regardless of data usage they will automatically remove you from your unlimited data to the tiered data/ tethering plan. So don't think you have to be a big user to be affected. I know it's easier for them to track iphones but i'm not so sure about Android. This is why i'm posting!
SO my question is how do we spoof the MAC id? I use Cm7 anyone?

TheTodFather said:
That is not true. I work for At&t from what i've read in our LSO classes we take everday, is that At&t will be able to see the MAC id of the device you are tethering with. So when they cross check the MAC id with your device, because your device's "MAC" will always identify itself when it talks which is everytime it has to communicate with a tower.
So if they catch you now after Aug 11, regardless of data usage they will automatically remove you from your unlimited data to the tiered data/ tethering plan. So don't think you have to be a big user to be affected. I know it's easier for them to track iphones but i'm not so sure about Android. This is why i'm posting!
SO my question is how do we spoof the MAC id? I use Cm7 anyone?
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So, if im on a tiered plan, what are they gonna do? Automatically add a tethering plan?
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Tether Not working CM7
Hola all, just trying to find out if Im the only one that cant use the tether function on any of the Nightlys after 62, anyone else having this issue????? I keep having to go back to 62 if I need to use tether
Thanks YARRRR

Still working on mine...

Free wifi

when I am in the states I can connect to all the free wifi spots in airports and i can connect to the web thru them. but when I am over seas I cannot connect to the available free networks. it shows i am connected and have an ip address but i cant actually connect to the web and i can't d/l my email. i have tried everything i can think of and in fact when I had my Iphone, i had no issues connecting to the exact same networks
i am on the AT&T unlimited data plan grandfathered in from my iphone days
this issue existed when the phone was completely stock also.
can anybody shed some light on this?
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tpickel said:
when I am in the states I can connect to all the free wifi spots in airports and i can connect to the web thru them. but when I am over seas I cannot connect to the available free networks. it shows i am connected and have an ip address but i cant actually connect to the web and i can't d/l my email. i have tried everything i can think of and in fact when I had my Iphone, i had no issues connecting to the exact same networks
i am on the AT&T unlimited data plan grandfathered in from my iphone days
this issue existed when the phone was completely stock also.
can anybody shed some light on this?
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I probably do not know enough about this, but maybe deleting your wifi past history will help. Maybe changing roms to a newer one then the old infused would help also, idk if that would help though.

Ryanscool said:
I probably do not know enough about this, but maybe deleting your wifi past history will help. Maybe changing roms to a newer one then the old infused would help also, idk if that would help though.
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thanks for the reply... i have deleted the wifi history. the infused ROM is a solid rom and I had this prob when the phone was stock as well.
i cant help but think there is a setting or something in the config that need to be changed....
anybody else...?
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The problem is within the DNS server IP from wherever the wifi source is coming from. Theres types of wifi that interact differently than actual wifi internet, and they dont actually grant internet access. I could be wrong but im almost positive that is the issue.
Just as an example of what im trying to say. I have a wireless printer. When i open my wifi networks it pops up as a selectable wifi. I connect to it. Get an ip and everything but the printer cant produce a DNS server IP for internet access.
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MaliciousIntent69 said:
The problem is within the DNS server IP from wherever the wifi source is coming from. Theres types of wifi that interact differently than actual wifi internet, and they dont actually grant internet access. I could be wrong but im almost positive that is the issue.
Just as an example of what im trying to say. I have a wireless printer. When i open my wifi networks it pops up as a selectable wifi. I connect to it. Get an ip and everything but the printer cant produce a DNS server IP for internet access.
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the wifi signal is coming from the free wireless router inside the Dubai airport. it is really frustraing because every one around me with wireless devices can access the internet and skype and i cannot. i have tried everything... i was a network admin about 15 years ago when Windows NT was the latest and greatest... i have since moved on... this issue is eating my lunch.
anyone have any ideas... i leave in 3 days to head back over seas...
thanks
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MaliciousIntent69 said:
The problem is within the DNS server IP from wherever the wifi source is coming from. Theres types of wifi that interact differently than actual wifi internet, and they dont actually grant internet access. I could be wrong but im almost positive that is the issue.
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It might say free, but might not be really. I was in London, Frankfurt and Paris, and though it says its open and everything, it actually needs you pay and register.
From all I know, it connects, but none of the apps except browser works. And when you try to open anything in browser, it takes you to their internal page and asks to pay and things like that.
Maybe you need to check out from the source which hosts the WiFi to check out what it needs.

diablo009 said:
It might say free, but might not be really. I was in London, Frankfurt and Paris, and though it says its open and everything, it actually needs you pay and register.
From all I know, it connects, but none of the apps except browser works. And when you try to open anything in browser, it takes you to their internal page and asks to pay and things like that.
Maybe you need to check out from the source which hosts the WiFi to check out what it needs.
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thanks for the reply...
it is free... as i stated in my OP, i had no problems with my iPhone. The only difference now is the phone and any settings that AT&T may have changed when i change from the iphone to the Infuse (they are telling me that nothing has changed). I have also talked to the service provider and my travelling companions, who use the service with no probs (they all use iphones)
i will be going back there tomorrow. i am wondering if there are any settings on my phone that i can change to try to get this to work, because i have exhausted all other options.
anyone else?
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tpickel said:
thanks for the reply...
it is free... as i stated in my OP, i had no problems with my iPhone. The only difference now is the phone and any settings that AT&T may have changed when i change from the iphone to the Infuse (they are telling me that nothing has changed). I have also talked to the service provider and my travelling companions, who use the service with no probs (they all use iphones)
i will be going back there tomorrow. i am wondering if there are any settings on my phone that i can change to try to get this to work, because i have exhausted all other options.
anyone else?
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Sorry, I guess I missed that point in your post.

idk dude. As diablo mentioned I would poke around your browser a bit. In France, hitting anything that Orange sponsored, (essentially their ATT I learned with time), I was able to get a little button that gave me wifi free for 15 minutes. Other than that maybe try asking someone that got on! Idk. That might work. If you speak the language. Good luck man. It is there! Just find it.
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well... i have made back to the states and i found that the wifi network in question is just way too overloaded... if you have a laptop then its hit or miss... if you have a mobile device then your s.o.l.
back in my iphone days i guess the wifi network in question didnt get as much traffic.
the wifi network is the only free wifi in Dubai airport. it is called Maxspot.
i am confident it isnt just my phone... everybody was having the same issues.
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I have also talked to the service provider and my travelling companions, who use the service with no probs (they all use iphones)
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tpickel said:
well... i have made back to the states and i found that the wifi network in question is just way too overloaded... if you have a laptop then its hit or miss... if you have a mobile device then your s.o.l.
back in my iphone days i guess the wifi network in question didnt get as much traffic.
the wifi network is the only free wifi in Dubai airport. it is called Maxspot.
i am confident it isnt just my phone... everybody was having the same issues.
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Wait...didnt you just say your companions didnt have the same problem, but now you say everyone had the same problem??? Lol were they messing with you ?
anyways at least your back home with wifi/unlimited data...and i agree...in crowded networks the mobile devices get kicked out first
And last for your above question about att changing something...there is no chane att can make that would effect you phone...all they provide is phone service...as in calls, sms, and data...they dont provide wifi so they cant stop it or block it.
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Simplest phone to root that will work on Total Wireless (verizon)?

Hey,
Total Wireless doesn't let you tether. I want to get a simple phone that I can then add to my family plan on Total Wireless, root it, then use it as a hot spot...
Any advice on which phone that should be and a link to how to root it?
Thank you!
BTW - 3rd party tether apps (some anyway) let you see how much data connected devices are using, right?

trying2s3 said:
Hey,
Total Wireless doesn't let you tether. I want to get a simple phone that I can then add to my family plan on Total Wireless, root it, then use it as a hot spot...
Any advice on which phone that should be and a link to how to root it?
Thank you!
BTW - 3rd party tether apps (some anyway) let you see how much data connected devices are using, right?
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Any device that can be rooted and is compatible with Tracfone network on Verizon towers.
Even if the phone doesn't natively have the hotspot feature, with root, you can add the hotspot feature.
As for seeing how much data is being used by a device, even if you manage to hide the fact that you're using data on hotspot, the network can still see the total volume of data that your phone is pulling from the network, from that, they can still tell that you are using hotspot, when you use tether/hotspot, it requires more data.
To give you some sort of idea what I mean, let's say that you enable hotspot on your device and then connect another device to the hotspot it creates, for ever 1MB of data that the connected device pulls from the hotspot, the device that is acting as hotspot is pulling 2MB of data from the mobile network. These are not meant to be accurate numbers, it is only meant to give you an idea how data usage works when using a hotspot.
The point is, with the way it uses more data while hotspotting, it's very easy to tell that you are using hotspot because it uses a higher volume of data in a shorter amount of time than when you aren't using hotspot.
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Thank you for the info. I am planning on using it for a security cam so I am hoping it won't use too much data.
It is funny... They do offer hot spot but you can't buy one on their site... I will be happy to just get a hot spot if possible. I won't if anyone here knows how to do it

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Thank you for the info. I am planning on using it for a security cam so I am hoping it won't use too much data.
It is funny... They do offer hot spot but you can't buy one on their site... I will be happy to just get a hot spot if possible. I won't if anyone here knows how to do it
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The "how to" method of getting hotspot enabled is going to depend on exactly which device you get. You need to focus on making a choice of device first and THEN you can focus on the "how to".
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