Hi,
My girlfriend just flew over to the states for a visit. I loaned her my Nexus One running CM7 and she just loaded a Simple Mobile SIM on it, with 3G and all.
In the Simple Mobile FAQ, it's stated that tethering is not allowed. Can I presume that this just means that the phones Simple Mobile provides have tethering disabled? My Nexus One is running CM7 and tethering is definitely enabled on it. So by right, if she just enables tethering on it, she should be able to use it. Unless Simple Mobile has something that can detect a NAT'd connection and blocks it server-side, which I'm not sure is possible or not.
Anyone knows?
Thanks!
Wong
Quick answer = apparently they can detect when a phone is being used as a tether. I'm not sure how yet, but aim to find out.
And apparently it's not just Simple Mobile phones. I'm using a TMOUSA HTC HD2 running CM7 using wireless tethering app from the market. SM txt'd me today saying I was at risk of my data plan being suspended due to violation of SM's Terms and Conditions.
Every carrier is doing this. Tethering is not allowed without a plan for it. Not alot you can do about it.
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I was wondering if anyone has come up with a hack to tether android phones for free. Or maybe hacked androids mobile wifi app to be free
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
This has been around sense the beginning of Android.
Thanks, i hope it works for my inspire
When I saw the header for this I was hoping it would help me tether my next book via wifi to my cell phone ( a HTC TOUCH PRO 2) . Not this though, does anybody know what hack I can use to get my nextbook to recognize the wifi router from my cell phone?
I would use it if i could figure out how to root my phone
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What am I missing?
I have a new Inspire / ATT (I am new to Android; previous was Tilt2 with WM6.5, heavily modified). Wifi hot spot came built in and I have used it to connect my notebook to the internet.
What I thought this was about was an Android equivalent to WMWIFI, which allowed one to do the hot spot thing but ATT could not detect the phone was tethered, I looked for that because I was grandfathered with ATT and would be able to have unlimited data for $30 a month. But I could not find this function for Android, so had to go with a tethered plan for $45 (all data inclusive) and limited to 4GB a month. If I could do the equivalent of tether without a tethered account, then I could stream video, etc, unlimited.
But this app looks to me to just be an implementation of the stock tethering. Or am I misunderstanding it?
OldMike60 said:
I have a new Inspire / ATT (I am new to Android; previous was Tilt2 with WM6.5, heavily modified). Wifi hot spot came built in and I have used it to connect my notebook to the internet.
What I thought this was about was an Android equivalent to WMWIFI, which allowed one to do the hot spot thing but ATT could not detect the phone was tethered, I looked for that because I was grandfathered with ATT and would be able to have unlimited data for $30 a month. But I could not find this function for Android, so had to go with a tethered plan for $45 (all data inclusive) and limited to 4GB a month. If I could do the equivalent of tether without a tethered account, then I could stream video, etc, unlimited.
But this app looks to me to just be an implementation of the stock tethering. Or am I misunderstanding it?
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Your misunderstood. This app is undetectable by carriers, in my case sprint, and allows tethering without paying per month for it. All you need is a data package and rooted.
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I'm within my 30 days. I wonder if I can drop the extra $15 for tethering, and also go back to my grandfathered unlimited data. Thanks for the explanation.
Now I need to figure out the rooting process. My Tilt2 was heavily modified (using ROMs and phones by others), but the process was the same for all. Now it appears that every phone seems to have a different root process and I can't find it for the Inspire.
Another Question Though
Would this also allow me to download video, streaming it to the phone, without ATT knowing it, or is it just for hot spotting?
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Would this also allow me to download video, streaming it to the phone, without ATT knowing it, or is it just for hot spotting?
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Streaming it to the phone? What do you mean? The WiFi tether does exactly what it says: WiFi tethering. So yea you can download videos and netflix with your computer.
I don't have an inspire but I believe if your connected via your WiFi router you can stream videos from your computer to your phone. I've never tried though.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961406
Root and S-Off for inspire 4g
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Is there a way to root your phone without a laptop? Mines having issues. It wont recognize my phone
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Is there one for Nexus S?
The link has nothing listed for the Nexus S, is there one for it?
bigdavedaniels said:
Is there a way to root your phone without a laptop? Mines having issues. It wont recognize my phone
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Look on ur sdcard storage for your drivers They should be listed as "HTC DRIVERS"
Also make sure your HTC SYNC is up to date
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The link has nothing listed for the Nexus S, is there one for it?
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The nexus s comes preloaded with tethering, this isnt limited by your carrier as the nexus s has no restrictions on this per agreement with tmobile or as an unlocked edition thru best buy,wife has a nexus s and no tethering package added on and it works fine, open up your setting and select wireless & networks then scroll down to tethering and portable hotspots
My laptop has had this issue before i got an android phone. I had wm phone. Im still trying to find out why.
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acunn1 said:
When I saw the header for this I was hoping it would help me tether my next book via wifi to my cell phone ( a HTC TOUCH PRO 2) . Not this though, does anybody know what hack I can use to get my nextbook to recognize the wifi router from my cell phone?
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IDK about a hack for recognition but I do use EasyTetherPro.apk on unrooted device and I have more than tripped my tether usage allotment ....Still going. It's got a setup for tablets too, though I've never tested anything besides USB tethering and the app is legit there ..so.....Maybe give that a try...Its 10$ ($9.99) but to bypass my 8gb limit =priceless
HTC Touch Pro 2 is Windows Mobile... and that post is 6 years old.
So my friend has an atrix 2, I rooted his phone, and hes been using wifi tether.
Carrier has detected it, and I have advised him to stop tethering.
So my questions is simply, how can he tether AND avoid being detected?
I've heard goodthings about ClockworkMod Tether during my research.
I also saw the post about modifying a file to enable built in wifi hotspot.
And when I tether I use the built in one from CM7.
Have I just been lucky? or would using cm7 prevent his problem?
and ClockworkMod Tether, the posts I read were from jan, is it still considered undetected since it "uses a proxy instead of an NAT/masquerade solution to avoid carrier detection."?
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So my friend has an atrix 2, I rooted his phone, and hes been using wifi tether.
Carrier has detected it, and I have advised him to stop tethering.
So my questions is simply, how can he tether AND avoid being detected?
I've heard goodthings about ClockworkMod Tether during my research.
I also saw the post about modifying a file to enable built in wifi hotspot.
And when I tether I use the built in one from CM7.
Have I just been lucky? or would using cm7 prevent his problem?
and ClockworkMod Tether, the posts I read were from jan, is it still considered undetected since it "uses a proxy instead of an NAT/masquerade solution to avoid carrier detection."?
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What method did you use for your friend?
I used sqlite editor and just disabled the entitlement check.
The only thing AT&T sees is a *jump* in my data.
No problems as of yet.
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The issue is when you tether from windows using ie.... They (at&t) look at the network payload.
When I tether I use chrome or firefox. Also have it emulate linux, if you can in the debug menu. Those things will help, but technically they can still tell, and they can get you.
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I was tethering an android tablet (Viewsonic GTablet) to an android phone (Atrix2). And while it took 4 months for AT&T to catch on they were able to tell that data was not terminating on the phone. According to the tech I was talking to they could tell that data was taking an additional hop after the phone. I was arguing that i didn't tethering and asked what was being tethered to the phone. They couldn't tell me what the end device was or what the payload was but they did know data wasn't terminating on the phone.
So unless you can write a program/script that adds back the number of extra hops in each TTL header in IPv4 or hop limit in IPv6, AT&T will be able to tell you are tethering.
Tried to ask this in the general forums and didn't get an answer, wondering f you guys could help. Got an s3 to keep my unlimited data. Reading it says that Verizon can tell if you tethering to a computer due to TTL packets. I don't know much about networking but reading it says that windows computers while tethering push a value of 124 or 128 packets unless configured while android devices have a value of 64. The thing is I never tether to my computer only my tablet. So can I safely go nuts tethering to my tablet as if it was my phone due to it looking like I'm using my phone or am I way off and can Verizon tell I'm tethering and using my tablet. I really just want tot tether the hell out f my tablet when I need it. Anyways as this is XDA can I hide it safely? I have an unlimited data plan so the whole OK to tether thing since that lawsuit doesn't apply to me with this.
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Tried to ask this in the general forums and didn't get an answer, wondering f you guys could help. Got an s3 to keep my unlimited data. Reading it says that Verizon can tell if you tethering to a computer due to TTL packets. I don't know much about networking but reading it says that windows computers while tethering push a value of 124 or 128 packets unless configured while android devices have a value of 64. The thing is I never tether to my computer only my tablet.
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I don't know about the packet size issue you mentioned.
Otherwise, I have read that if*your Verizon tethering indicator turns on or your usage suddenly goes quite high for a month or more, they might suspect you of tethering without a plan and look into it. It's also said that apps like PDAnet make it very difficult for the service provider to figure out if you are tethering or not - regardless of what you're connected to.
- ooofest
VZW can no longer block tethering on 4g phones. Due to FCC saying so. Simple Google search will fond multiple articles.
There is no restrictions on unlimited versus tiered data plan. What counts is that you have a 4g phone. Check out this article ans the tether away.
http://www.zdnet.com/let-my-wi-fi-go-fcc-rules-verizon-cant-charge-for-wi-fi-tethering-7000001916/
Rocking T2 on the unlocked VSG3!
I've read differently. It sounds like if you have an unlimited data plan you can only use that data plan for a single device meaning that you can't tether the unlimited data. I read multiple places that this is part of the terms of service and it doesn't apply to unlimited data plan users... M
aybe somebody can clarify this for me because it would be great to use my unlimited data for tethering when on vacations.
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Tethering
Its like not paying you bill. You get a warning. You can always deny it or ignore it. Modern PDANet if thats what you are boing to use has some countermeasures. At least 2 I think. Don't know if they are effective. You can just use Orobot to tunnel your traffic and I'm pretty certain that would work. I don't know what you plan to do but I wouldn't go download something shady from some torrent site though. Web browsing and getting email is probably fine.
I've been tethering my laptop to my phone since I first figured out how to do it with the Droid X. Meaning basically since I rooted it and found a decent tether app. Out of 5 people on a business share plan(business version of family plan - add a line for 9.99 etc) I've always had significantly highest usage. 5 gigs at a bare minimum, and not once has verizon figured out I'm tethering.
I honestly dont think they can really tell if you are or arent tehtering. 4g or 3g.
Curious, is Verizon still charging people today who were paying before the ruling? Is it possible now for me to use built in hotspot instead of wifi tether, regardless of whether or not i am on a custom rom? I am using latest synergy atm with wifi tether, i should have no problem using built in right?
sfetaz said:
Curious, is Verizon still charging people today who were paying before the ruling? Is it possible now for me to use built in hotspot instead of wifi tether, regardless of whether or not i am on a custom rom? I am using latest synergy atm with wifi tether, i should have no problem using built in right?
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I believe you can if you turn it on through the notification toggles...Why tho? The WiFi for Root Users is a lot more customizable...
sfetaz said:
Curious, is Verizon still charging people today who were paying before the ruling? Is it possible now for me to use built in hotspot instead of wifi tether, regardless of whether or not i am on a custom rom? I am using latest synergy atm with wifi tether, i should have no problem using built in right?
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atm no. the software is still there to keep you from doing that. IF you root, the world is your oyster though... and they aren't actually allowed to do anything to do. They just aren't rushing to open everyone up to free hotspotting.
I've searched up and down and all around simple mobile's website for the answer to the question:
Does simple mobile allow you to use a android phone with a simple mobile sim card as a HotSpot for other computer(s)?
Is it legal?
thanks!
one extra question:
Is it ok to connect a galaxy s 4g with simple mobile to a VPN service (that is normally only for android) and then get a wifi connection to a computer so the computer can use the vpn as well?
I hope its legal I do it everyday
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How could be illegal? If you try to do hotspot then it works its not illegal, if it doesn't then they don't allow you to.
There's nothing illegal about mobile hotspot unless stated. The network carrier can simply block it instead of making it "illegal".
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Is it ok to connect a galaxy s 4g with simple mobile to a VPN service (that is normally only for android) and then get a wifi connection to a computer so the computer can use the vpn as well?
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Can you clarify this statement? You got me confused in this part "(that is normally only for android)".
"Legal," most likely yes. It violates no law that I have am aware of.
In violation of your contract? That is a different question. You'll have to read it.
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Might Be Okay...
Well, I'm using my phone as a mobile hotspot right now just as a backup while my Wi-Fi connection is down. I have Simple Mobile too, but I'm using a rooted HTC HD2 for that. I think it's legal, but watch out if you're using like 2GB or more in a short period of time. I just got a message saying they could have me suspended for breaking terms of service. They never mentioned anything about mobile hotspots, but I'm guessing it's because I've used about 3GB in the last three weeks and I have yet to fix my Wi-Fi connection.
Read that someone got the 15 dollar charge added for mobile ap, but has anyone been able to usb tether without issues? I'm on a custom Rom, but was looking at the built in tether support
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May be useless for you, but tethering (through USB and WiFi) works just fine here in Russia. No additional charges, of course.
Well I'm glad to know it works on the sk, but I guess I was wondering more about how T-Mobile likes it. If anyone knows that, maybe they can let me know
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Hey there Shadowscott, i have been using the tethering and mobile access point feature of my sidekick for a long while and i can say that T-Mobile does not seem to have any issues with it. Keep in mind that i am using it on an unlimited data plan and it may act differently on a different plan.
I have always used Barnacle Wi-Fi Tether without any problems. It even works on the 200 MB data plan! :good:
Just use any root tether app, and you will be fine, unless you do it like my buddy that's on my account and use up 30gb. So far we just got a warning but i think he started using the stock app by accident.
I have a work-around for the native tethering app. But it requires apktools, smali editing.
Using KD1, and in the middle of a two-year stay in Greece, I'm able to connect with stock tether app and Greece's Cosmote phone service (even tethering to a Windows CE device).
Also, for anybody traveling with an unlocked Sidekick 4G, your US phone can get 3G in Europe. That's because the German TMobile uses both Band I and IV within its 2100 channel. TMobile's HTC Touch Pro2 also gets 3G, along with other higher-end TMobile phones.
Jake
USB Tethering solution
shadowscott said:
Read that someone got the 15 dollar charge added for mobile ap, but has anyone been able to usb tether without issues? I'm on a custom Rom, but was looking at the built in tether support
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Hey there!
I use USB tethering on my sidekick, and the problem is that they WANT you to pay the 15 dollars to pay for tethering. They can't just charge you for the service, that's illegal. At any rate, the way around this (sometimes t-mobile, for example, won't allow you to USB tether, and will cut off your tethering) is to use Google Chrome. You can download an add-on in their market-- search "User agent" and I currently use the "Ultimate User Agent Switcher, URL Sniffer", which is a red circle, with two arrows wrapping around each other. You then set your setting to Android 2.3, and now your laptop registers as your phone to your phone company. You will be 'mobile browsing' technically, you just have to make sure to click 'desktop' options when available on websites.
Note: This method is legal, as I was given it from a T-mobile representative, so please don't think this is some underhanded method for 'stealing'.