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tethering......busted....

Recieved a text from my wireless carrier stating that my tethering would be cut off or I can pay an additional $30 or so per month. I think it came down to me downloading the OS for an iphone 3gs I've been playing with. Last month I ended up with around 10gb of data usage.
Tried tethering after the deadline date and was directed to a site, stating I need to call customer service. I also tried using data on my phone at this point and was directed to the same site. Call customer service and was told to access their data I would need to give them my phones serial number. go figure.... after the past two years of playing with various phones, nexus one, vibrant, hd2, iphone 4, iphone 3gs, nexus s.... they want to know what Im using .....
Solution????
a different android phone again, with tethering.
or
drop my sim card into my iphone 3gs for a few hours and switch back to the mytouch 4g

DUDE
T-m0 said that?...
ok one are you using hotspots...if so stop im sure thats how they are monitoring your data...
try one of these
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
i personally use
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list?can=2&q=Stable
try one of these it should help
otherwise call t-m0 and tell em #&***& 2^^ with a *!!!! !#*(& in your !(*&$*( so they$&!!!
and they understand fine

Seeing as how you are getting the same site from the phone browser and the computer browser, it seems they just assume, not know you are tethering. The hold should go off after your billing month is up. If not, well do they know you have a smart phone, or are you using it on a feature phone plan? If it is the later, then giving them a smart phone serial will probably make them change your plan to a smart phone plan.

I heard if you use the stock tethering app they charge you... what if you use the one that's built into CM 7? isn't that the same as using android-wifi-teather? I was always unclear about that

Well I have been using mytouch 4g and were using the original tether option and now I'm using cm7.never have had any problems.
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witeboy07 said:
Well I have been using mytouch 4g and were using the original tether option and now I'm using cm7.never have had any problems.
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Well for lite usage you won't have problem. But if you are using bandwidth excessively they will notice it and based on using DPI/SPI techniques they can determine which service and protocol is being used. They would never want people to use free bandwidth when they can get people to pay money for same exact thing. Talk about milking the cow for all its worth lol.

Before the mytouch I had a hd7 and before that the first 4g I had was the g2..download were massive and big..never got caught...I was always using the stock T-Mobile tether option..I guess cus I'm on an old unlimited android web plan...
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Yes I did milk it, downloading the os for the iphone probably did it, will wait till cycle is over and do basic tethering again. Im going to my iphone and switch back to see if that works as well.

keepitfashion said:
T-m0 said that?...
ok one are you using hotspots...if so stop im sure thats how they are monitoring your data...
try one of these
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
i personally use
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list?can=2&q=Stable
try one of these it should help
otherwise call t-m0 and tell em #&***& 2^^ with a *!!!! !#*(& in your !(*&$*( so they$&!!!
and they understand fine
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tried the other iphone and switch back , no luck . Im on cm7, and have been for awhile, tethered for over a year and now its being stopped. What are the links to and which one do I need for the mytouch? As for carrier its a local one , cbw,

Just got the text. Now down to edge less speeds
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paczek said:
Just got the text. Now down to edge less speeds
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Edge has a speed? What? Oh yea, Slow . I can't do anything on edge other than check email
osugsxr said:
tried the other iphone and switch back , no luck . Im on cm7, and have been for awhile, tethered for over a year and now its being stopped. What are the links to and which one do I need for the mytouch? As for carrier its a local one , cbw,
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I downloaded 2.07 and it seems to work. Temp-Rooted.

hkbladelawhk said:
Edge has a speed? What? Oh yea, Slow . I can't do anything on edge other than check email
I downloaded 2.07 and it seems to work. Temp-Rooted.
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Yes I do use the tethering hotpsot often for internet at home. I downloaded the app you recommend, will test it out for awhile to see if itll make a difference and still allow me to tether.

I'm having conflicting information put my way about tethering. Is T-Mobile charging for using the WiFi Tether feature in froyo, or are they charging for the Wired Tether feature.
I can't even get a straight answer from store reps or customer service. It's like they don't even know themselves.
Trying to basically find out if I need to go back to using barnacle.
Update-June 1: If you have a Android data package Tethering is FREE.
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RootUserDWR said:
I'm having conflicting information put my way about tethering. Is T-Mobile charging for using the WiFi Tether feature in froyo, or are they charging for the Wired Tether feature.
I can't even get a straight answer from store reps or customer service. It's like they don't even know themselves.
Trying to basically find out if I need to go back to using barnacle.
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I'm not with tmobile, I have been using android phones for over a year plus, starting with the nexus one. I have always been tethering and kept my data around 5-6gbs per month. Last month I hit the 11 or 12gb mark, and within the first week of the new month I was already up to 3.5gbs. Mainly from downloading the Iphone OS, and other tools I needed.
Over the past year, I never once was charged for tethering nor was I warned about it. You shouldn't need to worry about tethering with tmobile, if you hit the 5gb of data they will cut your speeds. I download the tethering app from the first page of this post, and it seems to be working fine as of now.

RootUserDWR said:
I'm having conflicting information put my way about tethering. Is T-Mobile charging for using the WiFi Tether feature in froyo, or are they charging for the Wired Tether feature.
I can't even get a straight answer from store reps or customer service. It's like they don't even know themselves.
Trying to basically find out if I need to go back to using barnacle.
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Yea. I've wondered this as well. I wonder at what point they charge us for tethering and how they prove it. Staying around that 5gb per month.
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No more tethering on T-Mobile

I'm using the latest cm7 nightly and whenever I tether either over wifi or through USB on my x64 windows 7 machine, the internet dies after a couple minutes. Is anyone else having this issue?
I thought it might be an issue with the nightly build so I switched back to the stock rom and the internet tethering behaved exactly the same way. I also tried tethering to my laptop which is 32-bit windows 7. Because it didn't work on my laptop either, I think its either a hardware issue with my phone or T-Mobile is blocking the tether now.
I've also noticed that voip calling with the gingerbread sip client only works on wifi. I suspect that T-Mobile is starting to enforce some of their policies finally :/
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I wi-fi tethered to my Nook Color last night for a about 30mins and didn't have a problem at all.

T-mobile terms of service prohibits you to tether. Most people don't realize it but they can mess wit ur connection as they please if they find u using ur device in way that conflict with every user receiving equal service. Do u tether a lot and if u do way kind of activities do u do

illthrill said:
T-mobile terms of service prohibits you to tether. Most people don't realize it but they can mess wit ur connection as they please if they find u using ur device in way that conflict with every user receiving equal service. Do u tether a lot and if u do way kind of activities do u do
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T-Mobile does say it's against their TOS.
Bottom line is my data is mine. regardless of what device i use it on.
Now i will say that i only tether to other Android devices (IE Tablets), but still....

Capped?
Sounds like you're being capped :/ T-mobile will cap your data if you're using too much of it.. I've heard this many times.. they cap after 5gb of data, or maybe its 10gb? I'm not really sure but that sounds like what's happening to you. Usually it will disconnect or kick you to EDGE to slow you down.. Sucksss
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I have a HTC Sensation and used to have a LG G2x and both of them came with usb tethering and Wifi hotspot out of the box. I think your hitting the 5gb cap.

Not really. It may be that he hitting his cap but my friend just got tmobile and he can't tether either. I tried it out and it didn't work. I could connect but the internet wouldn't work and I know for a fact he didn't hit his cap. I just tried it and my tether works and I dont officially pay for it. I'm running royal panache. Hopefully they won't start enforcing this...
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I know I'm not at my cap... I only used about 2/5 gb so far. And the 4g will work on my phone even after my tethering stops working.
I noticed that while tethering that Google Chrome says "resolving proxy" in the status bar. The connection works really well within the first minute of tethering and then gets slower and slower until it dies completely.
I have x86 and x64 windows 7 machines that both show the same symptoms when tethering. But when I boot into my x64 Ubuntu desktop the tether works indefinitely. I suppose that T-Mobile detects how windows handles its network and somehow disables the tether through proxys.
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neidlinger said:
T-Mobile does say it's against their TOS.
Bottom line is my data is mine. regardless of what device i use it on.
Now i will say that i only tether to other Android devices (IE Tablets), but still....
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I can still tether too, but I don't use it to often though, only when I need to get something important while i'm out. But I've been tethering since I had my G1 and when I had my g1 i would tether my ps3 to to lighten the load on my wifi router. I dont do that anymore but I still like tether since I do pay around 30bux for 5GB unl, I want to make use of what i pay for. But i end up using around 2GBs per month anyway.

I don't tether much at all. I only have been browsing the internet with the tether because my cable DSL has been out for a week. But that's another story
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I tethered last weekend for about 27hours. No problems.

Okay it's working fine now... maybe T-Mobile is beta testing some filters they plan to use in the future?
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Beta testing filters? Lmfao....come on dude...common sense check...he or she is using nightlies...THINGS WILL BE BROKE. Or it could be a hardware issue...either way I have no issues with tethering at all. Oh any rom.
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I have had to tether a few times with my laptop and had no issues, I don't do it often either though but I've yet to recieve a notice stating other wise. I would think that since they provide network service by means of usb network cards it would depend on the amount of data used in a yearly quater which would force anyone to upgrade their service for obvious reasons. My brother travels on business alot and he had to switch service for the same reason, not because he was doing anything wrong but because there was a better service provided for that specific use. If your on a laptop all day get a network card other wise tethwring should be for simple tasks ans periodic use only.

Sorry, Newbie to tethering, So when you hit the 5gb cap tmobile will shut off/throttle the data services?
Does that apply even if i have the Old school Even More plan with unlimited data? I could understand how new or plan changes where the option for fully unlimited is not available but not so much for old school plans.
I also realize post merger I may be out of luck but one can hope.

It's still unlimited, the new plan starts throttling at 2GB instead of 5GB. You still have data, just at edge speeds.

thenotoriouspie said:
My God you're literally stupid. Data for your phone. Not for your laptop but your phone. Go die in a fire please.
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are you ignorant and just cannot read. I'm sure you're just trolling hoping to get a troololololol our of someone. but i never mentioned LapTops.

cfnerd said:
Sorry, Newbie to tethering, So when you hit the 5gb cap tmobile will shut off/throttle the data services?
Does that apply even if i have the Old school Even More plan with unlimited data? I could understand how new or plan changes where the option for fully unlimited is not available but not so much for old school plans.
I also realize post merger I may be out of luck but one can hope.
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You're plan is 5Gb of data. period. after that the brakes are slammed on .

cfnerd said:
Sorry, Newbie to tethering, So when you hit the 5gb cap tmobile will shut off/throttle the data services?
Does that apply even if i have the Old school Even More plan with unlimited data? I could understand how new or plan changes where the option for fully unlimited is not available but not so much for old school plans.
I also realize post merger I may be out of luck but one can hope.
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He's right, if your using more than that you should be on another plan, 5gbs is alot for a phone no matter how you cut it, personally I can blow threw 5 in a day easily depending on what I'm up to obviously but anything over that should be on a USB wireless network card.
Example:
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/phones/?shape=lcards

ive been capped a few times and got a text message from t-mobile saying if i tethered any more that i would be charged. they have a monthly fee for tethering and hot spotting. its something insane like 25 bux a month. thats only happened once though and ive tethered and h spotted since with no problems. its accumulative i assume and you have to switch back and forth from each style of web connecting. try it and see if it helps at all.

what wifi tether to use

i just flashed the blackhole rom and all i can say is wow. it is incredible, so much cooler than some of the other ones ive found. but anyways im rooted and i was wondering what a good wifi tethering app to use is. obviously a free one that i wont have to pay ridiculous amounts of money for each month on my bill if i use it

Good luck with that. Most carriers are trying to crack down on this theft...check the market place they are there

Speaking of tether I have three questions.
1. If you start using a ridiculous amount of data you think vzw would catch on and try to charge you for it?
2. When vzw transitions to tiered data, they can't modify your plan if you currently have unlimited data can they?
3. Does vzw throttle data at a certain point?
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I use android-wifi-tether
code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list

yep use wife tether
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list
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1. probably if ur in the top 5% of users of data
2. no they cant. you are grandfathered in
3. not the 4g. i heard of people saying they used 40, 65 even 80 gb and they did not get throttled or cut off.

Jaskwith said:
Speaking of tether I have three questions.
1. If you start using a ridiculous amount of data you think vzw would catch on and try to charge you for it?
2. When vzw transitions to tiered data, they can't modify your plan if you currently have unlimited data can they?
3. Does vzw throttle data at a certain point?
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these phones can use quite a bit of data themselves. I think most of the apps use the "stealth" type of tether where verizon would have to guess that you were tethering based off of overall data usage.
verizon can throttle you. According to their policy, they will throttle the top 5% of data users, esp during peak times so as to not effect their network.

Jaskwith said:
Speaking of tether I have three questions.
1. If you start using a ridiculous amount of data you think vzw would catch on and try to charge you for it?
2. When vzw transitions to tiered data, they can't modify your plan if you currently have unlimited data can they?
3. Does vzw throttle data at a certain point?
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1. If you have unlimited data, then it wouldn't matter. If they can't prove you tether, then they can't charge you.
2. If you have unlimited data, you will be grandfathered into unlimited until you change your plan.
3. I've heard reports that they do and don't. I have never noticed being throttled, but I don't use a lot of data.
Verizon will soon be able to detect tether users. If you ever get an official update to your phone, say goodbye to tethering. Also google is starting to restrict downloads of tether apps to certain carriers, and you can bet verizon will be one of them.
Tethering days are numbered.
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I would recommend wireless tether.
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im running open garden wifi...same thing as wifi tether. i can't find wifi tether on the market

To find Wireless Tether on the market, you have to go into Airplane mode, enable WiFi and then search for it there.

or simply go to this website
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/

Those of you saying that VZW can't change your data plan/charge you extra and can't detect tethering are fools. The valid question is not whether they can do these things, it is a matter of whether they care or not. Right now I'm sure that they don't. The future is always an unknown.

I wonder if its downloaded through the phone if VZW would have record of it somewhere?

sg1dan said:
or simply go to this website
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
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I've used that particular tethering app on various phones successfully in the past, and am in fact tethered with it over my Droid Charge (with version 3.1 beta). On most phones it's shown as an ad-hoc connection, not a real "access point" or "hotspot" like it does with the official tethering app. (The Charge right now is showing as an ad-hoc device, not a real wifi ap.)
Which version are you using on the Thunderbolt? What settings? I tried it this morning on the TB with 3.1 and while it appeared to work and connect as a real hotspot with the laptop, the laptop couldn't get any connections beyond the TB. I had everything on "auto".
Any hints/tips appreciated.
The connection right now for me on the Charge is more stable than with the official hotspot app...and it was the same with the official app on my Thunderbolt. I've posted youtube videos of both phones being used as a hotspot where the mobile data connection keeps flickering off, sometimes as rapidly as on for 5 seconds, no data for 5 seconds. It was maddening. Yesterday I had to pull out my TMobile Nexus S and use it's CM7 hotspot (which shows as a real access point, btw) to get a useable connection to the web.
Seems like the VZW official offerings aren't very stable.

I use the Wireless Tether 3.0 beta but you have to go to settings and click hTC routing fix for it to work.

BariB523 said:
I use the Wireless Tether 3.0 beta but you have to go to settings and click hTC routing fix for it to work.
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Thanks! I missed that one in the settings. I also had to change the Device Profile from Auto to Generic, but now I'm tethered on my MacBook via the Thunderbolt, and it shows as a real access point.

I have been using wireless tether for root users on Das Bamf 3.0 RC4 with MR2 radio and have not had any drop issues thus far.

Just downloaded this as well. Works great! Thanks for the tip

I believe the 2.0.7 one from the Google site is the only one that works on the thunderbolt.

JetBlk said:
Just downloaded this as well. Works great! Thanks for the tip
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Dude, you're on Verizon now too Cool!
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Anyone using tethering?

Read that someone got the 15 dollar charge added for mobile ap, but has anyone been able to usb tether without issues? I'm on a custom Rom, but was looking at the built in tether support
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May be useless for you, but tethering (through USB and WiFi) works just fine here in Russia. No additional charges, of course.

Well I'm glad to know it works on the sk, but I guess I was wondering more about how T-Mobile likes it. If anyone knows that, maybe they can let me know
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Hey there Shadowscott, i have been using the tethering and mobile access point feature of my sidekick for a long while and i can say that T-Mobile does not seem to have any issues with it. Keep in mind that i am using it on an unlimited data plan and it may act differently on a different plan.

I have always used Barnacle Wi-Fi Tether without any problems. It even works on the 200 MB data plan! :good:

Just use any root tether app, and you will be fine, unless you do it like my buddy that's on my account and use up 30gb. So far we just got a warning but i think he started using the stock app by accident.

I have a work-around for the native tethering app. But it requires apktools, smali editing.

Using KD1, and in the middle of a two-year stay in Greece, I'm able to connect with stock tether app and Greece's Cosmote phone service (even tethering to a Windows CE device).
Also, for anybody traveling with an unlocked Sidekick 4G, your US phone can get 3G in Europe. That's because the German TMobile uses both Band I and IV within its 2100 channel. TMobile's HTC Touch Pro2 also gets 3G, along with other higher-end TMobile phones.
Jake

USB Tethering solution
shadowscott said:
Read that someone got the 15 dollar charge added for mobile ap, but has anyone been able to usb tether without issues? I'm on a custom Rom, but was looking at the built in tether support
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Hey there!
I use USB tethering on my sidekick, and the problem is that they WANT you to pay the 15 dollars to pay for tethering. They can't just charge you for the service, that's illegal. At any rate, the way around this (sometimes t-mobile, for example, won't allow you to USB tether, and will cut off your tethering) is to use Google Chrome. You can download an add-on in their market-- search "User agent" and I currently use the "Ultimate User Agent Switcher, URL Sniffer", which is a red circle, with two arrows wrapping around each other. You then set your setting to Android 2.3, and now your laptop registers as your phone to your phone company. You will be 'mobile browsing' technically, you just have to make sure to click 'desktop' options when available on websites.
Note: This method is legal, as I was given it from a T-mobile representative, so please don't think this is some underhanded method for 'stealing'.

[Q] which phone to use for household broadband (t-mobile)

Hi everybody. I need to use a phone as an access point for broadband in my home. Long story short there are no other options available. What I was doing before was using a rooted thunderbolt on verizon and a grandfathered unlimited data plan, then used a wifi bridge to hook it up to my router and it worked great,
Now I need to replicate this on t-mobile by-passing their damn hot spot limit. I've already rooted my HTC one and tried doing this with that but I cannot get anything to successfully connect to it, and i'm reading that the mode was removed in version 4.2 or something to that effect..
So which t-mobile phone would be the best to root and use in this situation if it can be done? Preferably an LTE handset since I just barely get it but if not oh well, H+ works better most of the time.
Thanks a lot
-Robbie

rtlarson3 said:
Hi everybody. I need to use a phone as an access point for broadband in my home. Long story short there are no other options available. What I was doing before was using a rooted thunderbolt on verizon and a grandfathered unlimited data plan, then used a wifi bridge to hook it up to my router and it worked great,
Now I need to replicate this on t-mobile by-passing their damn hot spot limit. I've already rooted my HTC one and tried doing this with that but I cannot get anything to successfully connect to it, and i'm reading that the mode was removed in version 4.2 or something to that effect..
So which t-mobile phone would be the best to root and use in this situation if it can be done? Preferably an LTE handset since I just barely get it but if not oh well, H+ works better most of the time.
Thanks a lot
-Robbie
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I use my tmobile Gs4 with no problem.
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If I were in your situation, I would install openwrt on the router and hook a USB HSPA+ or LTE dongle to it. IMO, that's a much better and cheaper solution than using a dedicated smartphone.

i agree with troolie's recommendation....