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No more tethering on T-Mobile

I'm using the latest cm7 nightly and whenever I tether either over wifi or through USB on my x64 windows 7 machine, the internet dies after a couple minutes. Is anyone else having this issue?
I thought it might be an issue with the nightly build so I switched back to the stock rom and the internet tethering behaved exactly the same way. I also tried tethering to my laptop which is 32-bit windows 7. Because it didn't work on my laptop either, I think its either a hardware issue with my phone or T-Mobile is blocking the tether now.
I've also noticed that voip calling with the gingerbread sip client only works on wifi. I suspect that T-Mobile is starting to enforce some of their policies finally :/
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I wi-fi tethered to my Nook Color last night for a about 30mins and didn't have a problem at all.

T-mobile terms of service prohibits you to tether. Most people don't realize it but they can mess wit ur connection as they please if they find u using ur device in way that conflict with every user receiving equal service. Do u tether a lot and if u do way kind of activities do u do

illthrill said:
T-mobile terms of service prohibits you to tether. Most people don't realize it but they can mess wit ur connection as they please if they find u using ur device in way that conflict with every user receiving equal service. Do u tether a lot and if u do way kind of activities do u do
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T-Mobile does say it's against their TOS.
Bottom line is my data is mine. regardless of what device i use it on.
Now i will say that i only tether to other Android devices (IE Tablets), but still....

Capped?
Sounds like you're being capped :/ T-mobile will cap your data if you're using too much of it.. I've heard this many times.. they cap after 5gb of data, or maybe its 10gb? I'm not really sure but that sounds like what's happening to you. Usually it will disconnect or kick you to EDGE to slow you down.. Sucksss
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I have a HTC Sensation and used to have a LG G2x and both of them came with usb tethering and Wifi hotspot out of the box. I think your hitting the 5gb cap.

Not really. It may be that he hitting his cap but my friend just got tmobile and he can't tether either. I tried it out and it didn't work. I could connect but the internet wouldn't work and I know for a fact he didn't hit his cap. I just tried it and my tether works and I dont officially pay for it. I'm running royal panache. Hopefully they won't start enforcing this...
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I know I'm not at my cap... I only used about 2/5 gb so far. And the 4g will work on my phone even after my tethering stops working.
I noticed that while tethering that Google Chrome says "resolving proxy" in the status bar. The connection works really well within the first minute of tethering and then gets slower and slower until it dies completely.
I have x86 and x64 windows 7 machines that both show the same symptoms when tethering. But when I boot into my x64 Ubuntu desktop the tether works indefinitely. I suppose that T-Mobile detects how windows handles its network and somehow disables the tether through proxys.
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neidlinger said:
T-Mobile does say it's against their TOS.
Bottom line is my data is mine. regardless of what device i use it on.
Now i will say that i only tether to other Android devices (IE Tablets), but still....
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I can still tether too, but I don't use it to often though, only when I need to get something important while i'm out. But I've been tethering since I had my G1 and when I had my g1 i would tether my ps3 to to lighten the load on my wifi router. I dont do that anymore but I still like tether since I do pay around 30bux for 5GB unl, I want to make use of what i pay for. But i end up using around 2GBs per month anyway.

I don't tether much at all. I only have been browsing the internet with the tether because my cable DSL has been out for a week. But that's another story
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I tethered last weekend for about 27hours. No problems.

Okay it's working fine now... maybe T-Mobile is beta testing some filters they plan to use in the future?
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Beta testing filters? Lmfao....come on dude...common sense check...he or she is using nightlies...THINGS WILL BE BROKE. Or it could be a hardware issue...either way I have no issues with tethering at all. Oh any rom.
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I have had to tether a few times with my laptop and had no issues, I don't do it often either though but I've yet to recieve a notice stating other wise. I would think that since they provide network service by means of usb network cards it would depend on the amount of data used in a yearly quater which would force anyone to upgrade their service for obvious reasons. My brother travels on business alot and he had to switch service for the same reason, not because he was doing anything wrong but because there was a better service provided for that specific use. If your on a laptop all day get a network card other wise tethwring should be for simple tasks ans periodic use only.

Sorry, Newbie to tethering, So when you hit the 5gb cap tmobile will shut off/throttle the data services?
Does that apply even if i have the Old school Even More plan with unlimited data? I could understand how new or plan changes where the option for fully unlimited is not available but not so much for old school plans.
I also realize post merger I may be out of luck but one can hope.

It's still unlimited, the new plan starts throttling at 2GB instead of 5GB. You still have data, just at edge speeds.

thenotoriouspie said:
My God you're literally stupid. Data for your phone. Not for your laptop but your phone. Go die in a fire please.
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are you ignorant and just cannot read. I'm sure you're just trolling hoping to get a troololololol our of someone. but i never mentioned LapTops.

cfnerd said:
Sorry, Newbie to tethering, So when you hit the 5gb cap tmobile will shut off/throttle the data services?
Does that apply even if i have the Old school Even More plan with unlimited data? I could understand how new or plan changes where the option for fully unlimited is not available but not so much for old school plans.
I also realize post merger I may be out of luck but one can hope.
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You're plan is 5Gb of data. period. after that the brakes are slammed on .

cfnerd said:
Sorry, Newbie to tethering, So when you hit the 5gb cap tmobile will shut off/throttle the data services?
Does that apply even if i have the Old school Even More plan with unlimited data? I could understand how new or plan changes where the option for fully unlimited is not available but not so much for old school plans.
I also realize post merger I may be out of luck but one can hope.
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He's right, if your using more than that you should be on another plan, 5gbs is alot for a phone no matter how you cut it, personally I can blow threw 5 in a day easily depending on what I'm up to obviously but anything over that should be on a USB wireless network card.
Example:
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/phones/?shape=lcards

ive been capped a few times and got a text message from t-mobile saying if i tethered any more that i would be charged. they have a monthly fee for tethering and hot spotting. its something insane like 25 bux a month. thats only happened once though and ive tethered and h spotted since with no problems. its accumulative i assume and you have to switch back and forth from each style of web connecting. try it and see if it helps at all.

what wifi tether to use

i just flashed the blackhole rom and all i can say is wow. it is incredible, so much cooler than some of the other ones ive found. but anyways im rooted and i was wondering what a good wifi tethering app to use is. obviously a free one that i wont have to pay ridiculous amounts of money for each month on my bill if i use it

Good luck with that. Most carriers are trying to crack down on this theft...check the market place they are there

Speaking of tether I have three questions.
1. If you start using a ridiculous amount of data you think vzw would catch on and try to charge you for it?
2. When vzw transitions to tiered data, they can't modify your plan if you currently have unlimited data can they?
3. Does vzw throttle data at a certain point?
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I use android-wifi-tether
code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list

yep use wife tether
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list
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1. probably if ur in the top 5% of users of data
2. no they cant. you are grandfathered in
3. not the 4g. i heard of people saying they used 40, 65 even 80 gb and they did not get throttled or cut off.

Jaskwith said:
Speaking of tether I have three questions.
1. If you start using a ridiculous amount of data you think vzw would catch on and try to charge you for it?
2. When vzw transitions to tiered data, they can't modify your plan if you currently have unlimited data can they?
3. Does vzw throttle data at a certain point?
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these phones can use quite a bit of data themselves. I think most of the apps use the "stealth" type of tether where verizon would have to guess that you were tethering based off of overall data usage.
verizon can throttle you. According to their policy, they will throttle the top 5% of data users, esp during peak times so as to not effect their network.

Jaskwith said:
Speaking of tether I have three questions.
1. If you start using a ridiculous amount of data you think vzw would catch on and try to charge you for it?
2. When vzw transitions to tiered data, they can't modify your plan if you currently have unlimited data can they?
3. Does vzw throttle data at a certain point?
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1. If you have unlimited data, then it wouldn't matter. If they can't prove you tether, then they can't charge you.
2. If you have unlimited data, you will be grandfathered into unlimited until you change your plan.
3. I've heard reports that they do and don't. I have never noticed being throttled, but I don't use a lot of data.
Verizon will soon be able to detect tether users. If you ever get an official update to your phone, say goodbye to tethering. Also google is starting to restrict downloads of tether apps to certain carriers, and you can bet verizon will be one of them.
Tethering days are numbered.
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I would recommend wireless tether.
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im running open garden wifi...same thing as wifi tether. i can't find wifi tether on the market

To find Wireless Tether on the market, you have to go into Airplane mode, enable WiFi and then search for it there.

or simply go to this website
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/

Those of you saying that VZW can't change your data plan/charge you extra and can't detect tethering are fools. The valid question is not whether they can do these things, it is a matter of whether they care or not. Right now I'm sure that they don't. The future is always an unknown.

I wonder if its downloaded through the phone if VZW would have record of it somewhere?

sg1dan said:
or simply go to this website
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
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I've used that particular tethering app on various phones successfully in the past, and am in fact tethered with it over my Droid Charge (with version 3.1 beta). On most phones it's shown as an ad-hoc connection, not a real "access point" or "hotspot" like it does with the official tethering app. (The Charge right now is showing as an ad-hoc device, not a real wifi ap.)
Which version are you using on the Thunderbolt? What settings? I tried it this morning on the TB with 3.1 and while it appeared to work and connect as a real hotspot with the laptop, the laptop couldn't get any connections beyond the TB. I had everything on "auto".
Any hints/tips appreciated.
The connection right now for me on the Charge is more stable than with the official hotspot app...and it was the same with the official app on my Thunderbolt. I've posted youtube videos of both phones being used as a hotspot where the mobile data connection keeps flickering off, sometimes as rapidly as on for 5 seconds, no data for 5 seconds. It was maddening. Yesterday I had to pull out my TMobile Nexus S and use it's CM7 hotspot (which shows as a real access point, btw) to get a useable connection to the web.
Seems like the VZW official offerings aren't very stable.

I use the Wireless Tether 3.0 beta but you have to go to settings and click hTC routing fix for it to work.

BariB523 said:
I use the Wireless Tether 3.0 beta but you have to go to settings and click hTC routing fix for it to work.
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Thanks! I missed that one in the settings. I also had to change the Device Profile from Auto to Generic, but now I'm tethered on my MacBook via the Thunderbolt, and it shows as a real access point.

I have been using wireless tether for root users on Das Bamf 3.0 RC4 with MR2 radio and have not had any drop issues thus far.

Just downloaded this as well. Works great! Thanks for the tip

I believe the 2.0.7 one from the Google site is the only one that works on the thunderbolt.

JetBlk said:
Just downloaded this as well. Works great! Thanks for the tip
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Dude, you're on Verizon now too Cool!
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AT&T killing of illegal tethering?

I couldnt get my phone to tether last night and i saw a few people mention in other custom rom forums that it wasnt working... I was just wondering if anybody else could try if your on custom rom to see if its on my end or if at&t is cracking down? im on apex9.0 and talon 4.4.13 my tethering has always worked before???
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Well.. I was ready to post and just tell you 'no its still working' cus i used it just last night. But I just tried using my capt to connect via wifi and although it connects like normal and says internet, when you try and reach the outside world it gives you a "invalid IP" thing on the windows 7 troubleshooter program. Tried tethering and got the same thing, even though it says connected..
Decided to see if it was just my android, so pulled out my windows mobile 6.5 phone that can tether and fired it up... connects just fine, im posting from it now. So i guess maybe they just figured out a way to break however android does it? Bummer.. anyone else able to give it a try?
I use cognition rom fyi.. has always worked before. I'll try again here in a bit...

Works for me
Don't know what the difference is but I just tried tethering on mine still using the older Precetion Beta 2 rom and it seems to work without any problems.

Oops spoke too soon... rebooted computer and phone and now it works.. shoulda fiddled with it more i guess.
Tried via wifi and tethering, on tethering now. Both worked.. so confirmed working on android and WM.. so no they havent been able to break it yet.. muahahaha!
You had me all upset though that I'd have to switch my damn sim card over to another phone to tether each time

Seeing this thread scared me... I dont use it that often but I am paranoid AT&T will find a way to stop us one day and I wont realize it only to find out when I need it most.

Ill have to try again when i get off of work, but i couldnt get it to work fof the life of me!
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I just tried, worked great. Using continuum
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Working on my Cappy (CM7), for now

Working on mine....using continuum 6.1....
BTW, there was a big solar flare came through last night or the night before....my phone was acting weird yesterday

Must have been the talon test kernel or something because i flashed new test tonight and all is working well
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I don't see what the big deal is, if you have a data plan and available bytes to use not sure why ATT restricts wifi tethering. I downloaded a Mandriva linux cd iso onto my phone the other day, some 680 megabytes. I can pretty much do on my android what I do on my computer. If you have the data to use on your plan, not sure why ATT cares how you use it.
Just more innovative ways to screw the customer.
And my wifi tether works fine too, must be the solar flares.

It's more directed towards people with unlimited data plans and use large amounts of data instead of using a home internet connection.
They say these users big down the network for others that use the service normally. For those of us on tiered data plans it shouldn't matter.
I'm not saying I agree with them, just trying to explain it.
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Hmmm, looks like I don't use my data soooooo much lol cause I can still tether

artvandalay22222 said:
It's more directed towards people with unlimited data plans and use large amounts of data instead of using a home internet connection.
They say these users big down the network for others that use the service normally. For those of us on tiered data plans it shouldn't matter.
I'm not saying I agree with them, just trying to explain it.
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It matters to them even for tiered plans because people who tether use more data (that they are paying for). This prevents them from overselling their network. Like an airplane or a fitness gym, they want to sell you the service and get your money. They don't actually want you to use it to your fullest or they will be overwhelmed.

Still works for me, it's a damn shame they don't have unlimited data anymore.

For your entertainment, CNN has posted something related -
http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/mobile/08/12/carriers.stop.tethering.gahran/index.html?hpt=te_bn4
and this one too -
http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/mobile/08/12/avoid.tethering.fees.gahran/index.html?hpt=te_bn1

artvandalay22222 said:
It's more directed towards people with unlimited data plans and use large amounts of data instead of using a home internet connection.
They say these users big down the network for others that use the service normally. For those of us on tiered data plans it shouldn't matter.
I'm not saying I agree with them, just trying to explain it.
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That is not true. I work for At&t from what i've read in our LSO classes we take everday, is that At&t will be able to see the MAC id of the device you are tethering with. So when they cross check the MAC id with your device, because your device's "MAC" will always identify itself when it talks which is everytime it has to communicate with a tower.
So if they catch you now after Aug 11, regardless of data usage they will automatically remove you from your unlimited data to the tiered data/ tethering plan. So don't think you have to be a big user to be affected. I know it's easier for them to track iphones but i'm not so sure about Android. This is why i'm posting!
SO my question is how do we spoof the MAC id? I use Cm7 anyone?

TheTodFather said:
That is not true. I work for At&t from what i've read in our LSO classes we take everday, is that At&t will be able to see the MAC id of the device you are tethering with. So when they cross check the MAC id with your device, because your device's "MAC" will always identify itself when it talks which is everytime it has to communicate with a tower.
So if they catch you now after Aug 11, regardless of data usage they will automatically remove you from your unlimited data to the tiered data/ tethering plan. So don't think you have to be a big user to be affected. I know it's easier for them to track iphones but i'm not so sure about Android. This is why i'm posting!
SO my question is how do we spoof the MAC id? I use Cm7 anyone?
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So, if im on a tiered plan, what are they gonna do? Automatically add a tethering plan?
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Tether Not working CM7
Hola all, just trying to find out if Im the only one that cant use the tether function on any of the Nightlys after 62, anyone else having this issue????? I keep having to go back to 62 if I need to use tether
Thanks YARRRR

Still working on mine...

[Q] Tether without AT&T knowing?

I know this is an annoying subject for some of you, but I haven't found clear answers on other threads. I am planing on tethering to Xbox Live and my Laptop. Is making a custom APN and deleting tether manager any good? Are there other and more effective ways? I am willing to take a risk and will stop if AT&T sends me a letter. I'm on CyanogenMod 10.
Thanks.

ArcriusOneX said:
I know this is an annoying subject for some of you, but I haven't found clear answers on other threads. I am planing on tethering to Xbox Live and my Laptop. Is making a custom APN and deleting tether manager any good? Are there other and more effective ways? I am willing to take a risk and will stop if AT&T sends me a letter. I'm on CyanogenMod 10.
Thanks.
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I could be wrong but I don't think there's any way to do that.
After doing some more research it seems some apps can kind of hide it but you will most likely get caught if not right away eventually
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ArcriusOneX said:
I know this is an annoying subject for some of you, but I haven't found clear answers on other threads. I am planing on tethering to Xbox Live and my Laptop. Is making a custom APN and deleting tether manager any good? Are there other and more effective ways? I am willing to take a risk and will stop if AT&T sends me a letter. I'm on CyanogenMod 10.
Thanks.
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regardless what you do, the amount of data that you will use doing what you listed is what will throw AT&T a red flag.

mikelebz said:
regardless what you do, the amount of data that you will use doing what you listed is what will throw AT&T a red flag.
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Yeah that's what I thought. Huge red flag.
Thanks

Tethering xbox? I can see AT&T being all over that. Laptop i think is doable but again have to limit it to general surfing and emailing any heavy duty data usage like streaming movies will again be a red flag.
Red flags usually due to usage in a particular sitting.
If you thether intermittently should be ok.
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Tethering guard is not a "tether police" app. It just controls tethering. Delete it and you won't be able to tether at all.
The only way to avoid getting caught tethering is to stay below AT&T's radar screen. That means keeping your data usage under control and not connecting to red flag sites like Windows update and, yes, Xbox Live.
If AT&T decides to check, there are numerous ways they can tell you're tethering, and once you're caught, the jig is up. They'll put you on a tethering plan if you keep doing it. There are no apps that are able to reliably hide tethering because there is evidence of it outside your phone.
There is some evidence they devote extra attention if you happen to have a grandfathered unlimited data plan.
I pirated tethering for years on my iPhones and One X and never got caught. I only tethered my MBP and was religious about limiting my data.

to allow native tethering on stock at&t rom all you do is a little sql editing of telephony.db which takes like 10 seconds. as far as detecting tethering im sure it depends on your area. i haven't ran into any problems tethering though. i don't understand why at&t would care since they already screw the people with unlimited anyways where after 5GB of data they throttle you to 500kbps, or that is what they do in my area.

DvineLord said:
as far as detecting tethering im sure it depends on your area. i haven't ran into any problems tethering though.
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The exact parameters by which AT&T is monitoring/policing for tethering seems to be unknown any anyone but AT&T insiders. It also seems to be a bit random. There have been reports by at least a couple folks on here that swear that they never even tethered, but got the SMS warning from AT&T that they were caught tethering, and any further tethering would result in being forcibly changed to a plan that allows tethering. While other folks use it occasionally and have never been caught.
The amount of usage is almost certainly a factor, so using it regularly for X-Box is probably not a good idea. The theory proposed by folks here, is that when certain red flags are raised by network usage, your traffic will be more close scrutinized, and the data packets examined for evidence of tethering. The checks are probably all network based, so changing anything on the phone will probably not help.
Personally, I use it only occasionally, for very limited time periods and data amounts, and have never been caught. Most often while traveling such as when a hotel WiFi is not available, crappy signal, or carries an excessive extra cost.

[SOLVED] One Click Wifi Tether with t0mmy not working... any ideas?

For some reason, I am getting an error when I try using t0mmy (found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1677261) one click tether enabler. I've done some searching and cannot find anyone else who has had this issue. What the heck am I missing (screenshots attached)?! Any ideas?
Info:
- Stock AT&T ROM
- Rooted
- Android 4.0.4
- Used on StraightTalk... all APNs are setup correctly... data works on the phone.
For solution, SEE BELOW

One other thing I should mention is that even when I am using `android-wifi-tether` it will not work. It just shows up as a device on my computer when it is turned on as a wifi hotspot.
I've downloaded SQLite Browser and have changed all fields with "broadband" to "pta". Still no go.

I don't understand what you need that program for...
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When I click to activate the native wifi hotspot, it says that I cannot have a hotspot and to call 611. So I am trying Android Wifi Tether, which works for a little bit then after about 3 seconds, says "what the hell, your phone is taking over. shutting down wifi." Something like that. I'm just trying to get this phone setup so my friend can use it as a hotspot.
SQLite is to edit my `telephony.db`

Well, I do believe that it could be because you are using a stock rom, so att bulit in securities could be taking over. Also, I do want you to know that ATT does have advanced technology to detect tethering. without notice, they can upgrade you data plan to 5gb ($50) because you were caught tethering. it is the way the apn connects. now you can try to change your apn to BROADBAND, which is tethering, but again, but warned. if your data plan changes (esepcially if you are grandfathered into one), then that's on you...
so here are my suggestions: change the APN to broadband, get off the stock, and im sure there are a plethora of apps in the play market that should work

Herc08 said:
Also, I do want you to know that ATT does have advanced technology to detect tethering. without notice, they can upgrade you data plan to 5gb ($50) because you were caught tethering.
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They will send you a warning (physical letter or SMS, can't remember which exactly) notifying you have been caught tethering without the appropriate data plan. Then, if you are caught again, they will change you plan.
Probably nobody except folks at AT&T know the exact methods they use to monitor for tethering. But the thought here is that a high amount of usage will raise red flags, then they will examine data packets for the signs of tethering.
Some folks (myself included) have been able to tether without getting caught, by just doing it occasionally, and keeping the data usage low. But even then, the system seems far from consistent. I've seen a couple of folks report on here getting the tethering warning from AT&T, despite having never even tethered.

The days when you could easily pirate tethering may be coming to an end. AT&T has really cracked down on it and improved their methods of detection. Even if you get this working, you will get caught if you start tethering regularly.

redpoint73 said:
They will send you a warning (physical letter or SMS, can't remember which exactly) notifying you have been caught tethering without the appropriate data plan. Then, if you are caught again, they will change you plan.
Probably nobody except folks at AT&T know the exact methods they use to monitor for tethering. But the thought here is that a high amount of usage will raise red flags, then they will examine data packets for the signs of tethering.
Some folks (myself included) have been able to tether without getting caught, by just doing it occasionally, and keeping the data usage low. But even then, the system seems far from consistent. I've seen a couple of folks report on here getting the tethering warning from AT&T, despite having never even tethered.
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I do apologize, you are right. You will get a notice first. And then if you continue, then you will still bumped out. It is an email AND a SMS. Using small amount of data is usually the way to go. But if you trying to tether a computer, then most likely the data usage will be high. As I mentioned in other posts, as a former AT&T employee, if you want to tether, just upgrade your data plan. If you are on unlimited data, you will already get throttled at 3gb, so the Unlimited data and 3gb are basically the same thing, which is why the price is the same.
I have seem some accounts when excessive tethering is done, that the data is actually suspended, no matter what the case is. It's weird that AT&T can do that, but it is in their wireless agreement, which is at section 6 i think.

Thanks for the heads up about AT&T clamping down on this. It is good to know. I am doing this for an elderly couple who rarely use the internet. This is their first smart phone. They are savvy enough to know what that message means if they get it. I will let them know about it too.
They mainly will be accessing on the device itself but wanted the option to use it as a hotspot as well. They are already paying for data... they purchased the phone used and are under no contract (on Straight Talk). They want to use something they own, however they want. It's too bad AT&T is so mean.
It's like buying a computer and then the manufacturer says you cannot use bluetooth unless you pay them a monthly service charge.

[SOLUTION]
Oh yeah, I forgot to post that I figured a way out to get 'android-wifi-tether.apk' to work on the stock AT&T ROM.... here we go:
Get "Proxoid" from the Google Play Store
Get WiFi Tether from the Google Play Store (or from here [QR Codes in link]: http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/)
Get a mobile data widget
Once you have them installed, get them all lined up somewhere you can easily run them one after the other.
Make sure mobile data OFF before you turn anything on.
Open Proxoid and check the box to start/stop Proxoid... you want it ON
Open WiFi Tether and turn on tethering
Now you can turn on mobile data
This worked successful for me. I tested it for about 10-15 minutes, playing YouTube videos, reading some blogs, checked out some google image searches and so on. If you do not turn Proxoid on before mobile data is on, this will NOT work.
ENJOY! :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
UPDATE: This only worked on my Mac and Android phone. Mac picked up the HOX as a "device" instead of a wifi connection but it worked. Windows cannot find the connection at all. If someone knows how to get Windows to find the device and use it as a hotspot please let me know.

While tethering is a feature of the phone they own, the data being used is a service that is not owned and while I don't agree with what at&t does, I can understand why they would discourage tethering and it is technically within their right to limit how their data is used. They/you could have picked another company that allows tethering but as a consequence you may face saturation from all those heavy tether users.
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exad said:
While tethering is a feature of the phone they own, the data being used is a service that is not owned and while I don't agree with what at&t does, I can understand why they would discourage tethering and it is technically within their right to limit how their data is used. They/you could have picked another company that allows tethering but as a consequence you may face saturation from all those heavy tether users.
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Which is the reason behind the detection. Same as throttling. With the explosion of bandwidth needed, the big companies cannot keep up. Hence why smaller companies offer unlimited data.
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