So my friend has an atrix 2, I rooted his phone, and hes been using wifi tether.
Carrier has detected it, and I have advised him to stop tethering.
So my questions is simply, how can he tether AND avoid being detected?
I've heard goodthings about ClockworkMod Tether during my research.
I also saw the post about modifying a file to enable built in wifi hotspot.
And when I tether I use the built in one from CM7.
Have I just been lucky? or would using cm7 prevent his problem?
and ClockworkMod Tether, the posts I read were from jan, is it still considered undetected since it "uses a proxy instead of an NAT/masquerade solution to avoid carrier detection."?
wzzupp548 said:
So my friend has an atrix 2, I rooted his phone, and hes been using wifi tether.
Carrier has detected it, and I have advised him to stop tethering.
So my questions is simply, how can he tether AND avoid being detected?
I've heard goodthings about ClockworkMod Tether during my research.
I also saw the post about modifying a file to enable built in wifi hotspot.
And when I tether I use the built in one from CM7.
Have I just been lucky? or would using cm7 prevent his problem?
and ClockworkMod Tether, the posts I read were from jan, is it still considered undetected since it "uses a proxy instead of an NAT/masquerade solution to avoid carrier detection."?
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What method did you use for your friend?
I used sqlite editor and just disabled the entitlement check.
The only thing AT&T sees is a *jump* in my data.
No problems as of yet.
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The issue is when you tether from windows using ie.... They (at&t) look at the network payload.
When I tether I use chrome or firefox. Also have it emulate linux, if you can in the debug menu. Those things will help, but technically they can still tell, and they can get you.
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I was tethering an android tablet (Viewsonic GTablet) to an android phone (Atrix2). And while it took 4 months for AT&T to catch on they were able to tell that data was not terminating on the phone. According to the tech I was talking to they could tell that data was taking an additional hop after the phone. I was arguing that i didn't tethering and asked what was being tethered to the phone. They couldn't tell me what the end device was or what the payload was but they did know data wasn't terminating on the phone.
So unless you can write a program/script that adds back the number of extra hops in each TTL header in IPv4 or hop limit in IPv6, AT&T will be able to tell you are tethering.
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So I currently own a Thunderbolt on Verizon as well as a wifi only galaxy tab and a wifi only xoom.
I also have a G2X on a 2 week trial. I was going to transfer me and my gf's phones over from Verizon.
I have my G2X rooted already and I have wireless tether installed. It works but my Xoom and my Galaxy tab won't recognize it. I'm assuming this is because it's running in ad-hoc mode and not infrastructure.
If this something that can be changed with kernal upgrade or custom roms or will this phone forever broadcast ad-hoc? This is pretty important to me as it's one of my primary purposes for switching to tmobile. (4g in my area vs none for verizon as well as battery life.)
all the 3 version is infrastructure mode the 2 version is in ad hoc. try it out should work not sure yet tho. http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list
I feel like a tard now actually. I'm so used to having verizon I didn't realize that T-Mobile didn't take out the stock android mobile hotspot app.
Does anyone know if t-mobile makes you sign up for a tethering plan to use it? I was able to fire it up and connect both my Xoom and my galaxy tab just fine.. just don't want a suprise in my bill.
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I feel like a tard now actually. I'm so used to having verizon I didn't realize that T-Mobile didn't take out the stock android mobile hotspot app.
Does anyone know if t-mobile makes you sign up for a tethering plan to use it? I was able to fire it up and connect both my Xoom and my galaxy tab just fine.. just don't want a suprise in my bill.
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Just use it.
If you got error page, you simply add tethering option or just change browser agent (but I don't think you'll get in trouble if you tether with Android tablets).
As long as you have an unlimited data package youll be fine...they have a 2gig & 5gig. Once you go over those limits it will still work, just not as fast as before you went over the data cap. No issues with mine tho, my hotspot works fine with various devices
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access control
I keep getting access control disabled when I use either Android Wifi tethering apps I don't have a hotspot app in my G2X I went and downloaded via android any solutions to making this work??
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I keep getting access control disabled when I use either Android Wifi tethering apps I don't have a hotspot app in my G2X I went and downloaded via android any solutions to making this work??
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It's not an app, it's in the wireless network settings. Same place as wifi-bluetooth and all that. Just a check box to turn it on.
Funny story about the wireless tether for root users app.
So when I posted this that it will only work in ad-hoc mode, I found a workaround for my xoom to connect before I realized there was built in hotspot. The built in hotspot works great and it's infrastructure mode, but like my thunderbolt and droid x before it, won't stay connected in my office for some reason.
I tried the wireless tether program and low and behold it stays connected firmly in my office. Must be something about it being ad-hoc because all the infrastructure mode tethering methods I've tried will not stay connected in my office.. must be some intereference or something.
i just flashed the blackhole rom and all i can say is wow. it is incredible, so much cooler than some of the other ones ive found. but anyways im rooted and i was wondering what a good wifi tethering app to use is. obviously a free one that i wont have to pay ridiculous amounts of money for each month on my bill if i use it
Good luck with that. Most carriers are trying to crack down on this theft...check the market place they are there
Speaking of tether I have three questions.
1. If you start using a ridiculous amount of data you think vzw would catch on and try to charge you for it?
2. When vzw transitions to tiered data, they can't modify your plan if you currently have unlimited data can they?
3. Does vzw throttle data at a certain point?
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I use android-wifi-tether
code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list
yep use wife tether
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list
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1. probably if ur in the top 5% of users of data
2. no they cant. you are grandfathered in
3. not the 4g. i heard of people saying they used 40, 65 even 80 gb and they did not get throttled or cut off.
Jaskwith said:
Speaking of tether I have three questions.
1. If you start using a ridiculous amount of data you think vzw would catch on and try to charge you for it?
2. When vzw transitions to tiered data, they can't modify your plan if you currently have unlimited data can they?
3. Does vzw throttle data at a certain point?
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these phones can use quite a bit of data themselves. I think most of the apps use the "stealth" type of tether where verizon would have to guess that you were tethering based off of overall data usage.
verizon can throttle you. According to their policy, they will throttle the top 5% of data users, esp during peak times so as to not effect their network.
Jaskwith said:
Speaking of tether I have three questions.
1. If you start using a ridiculous amount of data you think vzw would catch on and try to charge you for it?
2. When vzw transitions to tiered data, they can't modify your plan if you currently have unlimited data can they?
3. Does vzw throttle data at a certain point?
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1. If you have unlimited data, then it wouldn't matter. If they can't prove you tether, then they can't charge you.
2. If you have unlimited data, you will be grandfathered into unlimited until you change your plan.
3. I've heard reports that they do and don't. I have never noticed being throttled, but I don't use a lot of data.
Verizon will soon be able to detect tether users. If you ever get an official update to your phone, say goodbye to tethering. Also google is starting to restrict downloads of tether apps to certain carriers, and you can bet verizon will be one of them.
Tethering days are numbered.
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I would recommend wireless tether.
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im running open garden wifi...same thing as wifi tether. i can't find wifi tether on the market
To find Wireless Tether on the market, you have to go into Airplane mode, enable WiFi and then search for it there.
or simply go to this website
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
Those of you saying that VZW can't change your data plan/charge you extra and can't detect tethering are fools. The valid question is not whether they can do these things, it is a matter of whether they care or not. Right now I'm sure that they don't. The future is always an unknown.
I wonder if its downloaded through the phone if VZW would have record of it somewhere?
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or simply go to this website
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
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I've used that particular tethering app on various phones successfully in the past, and am in fact tethered with it over my Droid Charge (with version 3.1 beta). On most phones it's shown as an ad-hoc connection, not a real "access point" or "hotspot" like it does with the official tethering app. (The Charge right now is showing as an ad-hoc device, not a real wifi ap.)
Which version are you using on the Thunderbolt? What settings? I tried it this morning on the TB with 3.1 and while it appeared to work and connect as a real hotspot with the laptop, the laptop couldn't get any connections beyond the TB. I had everything on "auto".
Any hints/tips appreciated.
The connection right now for me on the Charge is more stable than with the official hotspot app...and it was the same with the official app on my Thunderbolt. I've posted youtube videos of both phones being used as a hotspot where the mobile data connection keeps flickering off, sometimes as rapidly as on for 5 seconds, no data for 5 seconds. It was maddening. Yesterday I had to pull out my TMobile Nexus S and use it's CM7 hotspot (which shows as a real access point, btw) to get a useable connection to the web.
Seems like the VZW official offerings aren't very stable.
I use the Wireless Tether 3.0 beta but you have to go to settings and click hTC routing fix for it to work.
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I use the Wireless Tether 3.0 beta but you have to go to settings and click hTC routing fix for it to work.
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Thanks! I missed that one in the settings. I also had to change the Device Profile from Auto to Generic, but now I'm tethered on my MacBook via the Thunderbolt, and it shows as a real access point.
I have been using wireless tether for root users on Das Bamf 3.0 RC4 with MR2 radio and have not had any drop issues thus far.
Just downloaded this as well. Works great! Thanks for the tip
I believe the 2.0.7 one from the Google site is the only one that works on the thunderbolt.
JetBlk said:
Just downloaded this as well. Works great! Thanks for the tip
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Dude, you're on Verizon now too Cool!
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I'm going on a road trip and want to use my Skyrocket to give Internet access to my Dell Mini laptop. So I called AT&T to ask how that could be done. I was willing to pay whatever fee's they required.
But they told me the only way to do it is for me to relinquish my current unlimited-data play. Then they would put me on a new plan that allows "tethering".
But I could never go back to my unlimited-data plan afterwards.
WTF?
So I'm rooted & running SkyICS ROM.
What is the best way for me to get my laptop onto the Internet using my AT&T cell data service? I just need it for a couple weeks.
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I'm going on a road trip and want to use my Skyrocket to give Internet access to my Dell Mini laptop. So I called AT&T to ask how that could be done. I was willing to pay whatever fee's they required.
But they told me the only way to do it is for me to relinquish my current unlimited-data play. Then they would put me on a new plan that allows "tethering".
But I could never go back to my unlimited-data plan afterwards.
WTF?
So I'm rooted & running SkyICS ROM.
What is the best way for me to get my laptop onto the Internet using my AT&T cell data service? I just need it for a couple weeks.
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Use the hotspot or usb tether on your phone
You will be prevented from using USB tether or WiFi tether if you don't have a tethering plan from AT&T. Since you are rooted, freezing programs is possible (using Titanium Backup, or others). Freezing a certain program that manages tethering (which I will leave nameless so that I am not implicated in violating AT&Ts rules ).
I have used this method myself, and tried the WiFi tethering. It works, but I might not recommended using it excessively. AT&T apparently can tell by looking at the data if you are tethering, and the more you do it, the more likely they will check. But for brief usage, it has worked well, and I haven't received any of the nasty-gram texts. The risk, of course, is that they will automatically change you over to a tiered data plan with tethering.
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You will be prevented from using USB tether or WiFi tether if you don't have a tethering plan from AT&T. Since you are rooted, freezing programs is possible (using Titanium Backup, or others). Freezing a certain program that manages tethering (which I will leave nameless so that I am not implicated in violating AT&Ts rules ).
I have used this method myself, and tried the WiFi tethering. It works, but I might not recommended using it excessively. AT&T apparently can tell by looking at the data if you are tethering, and the more you do it, the more likely they will check. But for brief usage, it has worked well, and I haven't received any of the nasty-gram texts. The risk, of course, is that they will automatically change you over to a tiered data plan with tethering.
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The rom he is on may have already enabled tethering as well, as most roms do this. But yes, when I was stock rooted I froze the "nameless thing" as well.
I pulled open Titanium backup and don't see the tethermanager in the list so I can freeze it?
I don't want USB tethering, just wireless.
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I pulled open Titanium backup and don't see the tethermanager in the list so I can freeze it?
I don't want USB tethering, just wireless.
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It's probably already baked into your rom.
Open wireless and network/ tethering portable and hotspot /portable wifi hotspot settings/ and then tick the box PORTABLE WI-FI HOTSPOT. See if it works for ya
I use open garden to tether.
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Foxfi from the play store works. I've only tested it out briefly to see if it worked. Haven't used it to much so I don't know if att will send you a text. No root necessary either.
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Tried to ask this in the general forums and didn't get an answer, wondering f you guys could help. Got an s3 to keep my unlimited data. Reading it says that Verizon can tell if you tethering to a computer due to TTL packets. I don't know much about networking but reading it says that windows computers while tethering push a value of 124 or 128 packets unless configured while android devices have a value of 64. The thing is I never tether to my computer only my tablet. So can I safely go nuts tethering to my tablet as if it was my phone due to it looking like I'm using my phone or am I way off and can Verizon tell I'm tethering and using my tablet. I really just want tot tether the hell out f my tablet when I need it. Anyways as this is XDA can I hide it safely? I have an unlimited data plan so the whole OK to tether thing since that lawsuit doesn't apply to me with this.
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Tried to ask this in the general forums and didn't get an answer, wondering f you guys could help. Got an s3 to keep my unlimited data. Reading it says that Verizon can tell if you tethering to a computer due to TTL packets. I don't know much about networking but reading it says that windows computers while tethering push a value of 124 or 128 packets unless configured while android devices have a value of 64. The thing is I never tether to my computer only my tablet.
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I don't know about the packet size issue you mentioned.
Otherwise, I have read that if*your Verizon tethering indicator turns on or your usage suddenly goes quite high for a month or more, they might suspect you of tethering without a plan and look into it. It's also said that apps like PDAnet make it very difficult for the service provider to figure out if you are tethering or not - regardless of what you're connected to.
- ooofest
VZW can no longer block tethering on 4g phones. Due to FCC saying so. Simple Google search will fond multiple articles.
There is no restrictions on unlimited versus tiered data plan. What counts is that you have a 4g phone. Check out this article ans the tether away.
http://www.zdnet.com/let-my-wi-fi-go-fcc-rules-verizon-cant-charge-for-wi-fi-tethering-7000001916/
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I've read differently. It sounds like if you have an unlimited data plan you can only use that data plan for a single device meaning that you can't tether the unlimited data. I read multiple places that this is part of the terms of service and it doesn't apply to unlimited data plan users... M
aybe somebody can clarify this for me because it would be great to use my unlimited data for tethering when on vacations.
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Tethering
Its like not paying you bill. You get a warning. You can always deny it or ignore it. Modern PDANet if thats what you are boing to use has some countermeasures. At least 2 I think. Don't know if they are effective. You can just use Orobot to tunnel your traffic and I'm pretty certain that would work. I don't know what you plan to do but I wouldn't go download something shady from some torrent site though. Web browsing and getting email is probably fine.
I've been tethering my laptop to my phone since I first figured out how to do it with the Droid X. Meaning basically since I rooted it and found a decent tether app. Out of 5 people on a business share plan(business version of family plan - add a line for 9.99 etc) I've always had significantly highest usage. 5 gigs at a bare minimum, and not once has verizon figured out I'm tethering.
I honestly dont think they can really tell if you are or arent tehtering. 4g or 3g.
Curious, is Verizon still charging people today who were paying before the ruling? Is it possible now for me to use built in hotspot instead of wifi tether, regardless of whether or not i am on a custom rom? I am using latest synergy atm with wifi tether, i should have no problem using built in right?
sfetaz said:
Curious, is Verizon still charging people today who were paying before the ruling? Is it possible now for me to use built in hotspot instead of wifi tether, regardless of whether or not i am on a custom rom? I am using latest synergy atm with wifi tether, i should have no problem using built in right?
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I believe you can if you turn it on through the notification toggles...Why tho? The WiFi for Root Users is a lot more customizable...
sfetaz said:
Curious, is Verizon still charging people today who were paying before the ruling? Is it possible now for me to use built in hotspot instead of wifi tether, regardless of whether or not i am on a custom rom? I am using latest synergy atm with wifi tether, i should have no problem using built in right?
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atm no. the software is still there to keep you from doing that. IF you root, the world is your oyster though... and they aren't actually allowed to do anything to do. They just aren't rushing to open everyone up to free hotspotting.
I'm hoping someone might provide some insight into this situation: I have a Galaxy s3 with Tmobile 5gigabyte data plan. I rooted it, installed Jellybean and am running a wifi tether app to "try" to circumvent the $14.99 wifi tethering surcharge they now want to charge. I tether my ipad to my phone, or at least that was the plan. Right after making all the OS changes, the tether worked great. Within 2-3 weeks, however, the speed on the wifi tether app is showing a download speed of 0.2kbps -- just enough for my iPad to see the tether, but not enough to do any browsing with the iPad.
I talked with a tmobile tier 2 tech and he said that their network can see when another device is using my phone (and their network) to access the internet... I thought that a rooted phone broke me free from the tmobile shackles, but is it possible that they can still see -- by IP address, etc. -- that my dataplan is using unauthorized access? I'm not clear on what exactly I'm asking here, but the point is is I cannot seem to keep an adequate speed on a rooted phone to tether my iPad to it and it is frustrating! I haven't seen one post on this issue, but I cannot be the only one out there experiencing this. Thanks in advance for any advice/help...
Yes, they can tell.
There's something about user agents, but I don't know if you can make that pass from an iOS device.
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