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Lack of development

Just curious...What's the deal with the lack of development with our tab...specifically with the wifi version? Are the developers more interested in other tabs or what? Development just started to pick up and then went dead.

cavsoldier19d said:
Just curious...What's the deal with the lack of development with our tab...specifically with the wifi version? Are the developers more interested in other tabs or what? Development just started to pick up and then went dead.
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I'm not a developer but speaking strickly as a tablet user I can honestly say this is the first tablet I have owned where I had no desire to modify it in any way. This tablet functions just the way I want it too right out of the box.
So for me , lack of development has never been an issue.

Have to admit, even though I rooted so I could use Apps2SD, my Note is fairly perfect just the way it is.

It could be that they're waiting for jelly bean.
And yeah, the note is pretty much perfect the way it is.
I will say that I had the same problem with my note GT 7000 (the phone) having the perfect GUI.
It would be nice to see some fast kernels and slim Roms though. Maybe some themes.
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blud7 said:
It would be nice to see some fast kernels and slim Roms though. Maybe some themes.
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+1. Exactly my point. ROMs arent always aosp. With our tab, because of the s pen functionality, its a given that custom stock roms would make more sense. But stock roms can always be slimmed down and tweaked.

I have asked a few devs if they could consider developing for the Note 10.1. And they have all asked they have a very tight schedeule but maybe later ( Indiemega) and another said about the same but he would be glad to help (Wanam) if i liked to develop myself. And its really no point in just building something thats no better or diffrent from stock. And that would be what i would have come up with, i dont have any skills to see what MOD or TWEAK would fit nice and that doesnt interfere with some other tweak. Lets just hope for the best and maybe when prices goes down in a couple of months the devs start coming.

I too don't pretty much have any issue in the way my Note 10.1 performs. It is already cool. Plus the promised JB update will make it even better. So why bother developing anything for something that's bound to get better in near future?
Let's wait and see and in the meantime enjoy our precious

Im going to say this again... theres always a need for development. No matter how good the stock rom is we as a community need custom roms. Lol
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I don't feel the need for this tablet... Just waiting for Jelly Beans!
Also can't wait for the Note II!
Develop for those that really need it.

this is the first tablet where i've had where stock is pretty damn good. great battery life, snappy processor, no real bugs... other than some apps i don't need this thing is great as is. even overclocking wouldn't make much of a difference in my usage.
still i'd probably flash a good JB rom when ever they start rolling out.

Devs come super handy when the product you like so mucho gets dropped officially, say goodbye to sweet potatoe pie 6.0, unless you upgrade the hardware.
dont burn bridges man, we need devs in the later years, no doubt.
This thread may interest some of you,
[PETITION] Let's get some Exynos sources!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1925709
spreading the good word

[Q] Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 and Ubuntu Touch?

Hey,
I was just reading the port guide for creating a Touch image for our device. It doesn't seem like a massive task to get it running just a little time consuming for a fella with a little less knowledge than some of the other guys around here. The funny thing was that the port guide specifically mentions our device, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting. Anyone know if this is (a) possible & (b) worthwhile. Like I said, I'd give this a go but I'm amature at best and it could probably be done a lot quicker by another interested party.
Cheers

I've been asking the same thing...
I'd love to have Ubuntu running on my P3110!
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If you watched google hangout on ubuntuonair, you can saw that one of the devs had already ported it for his wife`s P3110. He told there that it took him like 2-3 hrs with debugging. Also he told that he will provide it i think. I would love to see it for my P3100 but im not that skilled to try to port it.

Maybe once ubuntu for phones is released xda can tamper with it?

Luigi2011SM64 said:
Maybe once ubuntu for phones is released xda can tamper with it?
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For sure, and isn't something too difficult, since ubuntu for phones is based on cyanogenmod.

I used it on my n7 and to be honest, its not impressive at all.

scottx . said:
I used it on my n7 and to be honest, its not impressive at all.
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Really? It looks so polished...
Better to stick with JB, then?

scottx . said:
I used it on my n7 and to be honest, its not impressive at all.
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Why??? What are the bad aspects???? I know its dev preview so it do not have all features working....what else????
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Don't expect to much, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes : The Ubuntu Touch Developer Preview is intended to be used for development and evaluation purposes only. It does not provide all of the features and services of a retail phone and is not intended to replace your current handset. This preview is the first release of a very new and unfinished version of Ubuntu and it will evolve quickly.

Found this while searching for ubuntu to our tab> http://server1.androidfilehost.com/?a=show&w=files&flid=3518 Looks interesting, the guy has a profile here on XDA but no word about ubuntu touch here :/

CM mostly coming to S4!

Steve Kondik recently put up a post on Google+ in response to websites in general that were stating no CM support for the Galaxy S4. He stated that cyanogenmod definitely will support the S4, and hopefully this should put to rest all the rumors on this.
Source: https://plus.google.com/100275307499530023476/posts/U2Phq8KowGQ

ilabs said:
Steve Kondik recently put up a post on Google+ in response to websites in general that were stating no CM support for the Galaxy S4. He stated that cyanogenmod definitely will support the S4, and hopefully this should put to rest all the rumors on this.
Source: https://plus.google.com/100275307499530023476/posts/U2Phq8KowGQ
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I'd personally stick to stock rom. It's the most stable and offers the most features.

boodies said:
I'd personally stick to stock rom. It's the most stable and offers the most features.
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I try and keep my phones for a long time. I'm still using the i9000 and its been almost 3 years now. CM/AOSP is the one thing that helps keep my phone up to date even after the manufacturer stops supporting the device.

He has Mentioned S4 but which S4 GT-I9500 or GT-I9505

nitinvaid said:
He has Mentioned S4 but which S4 GT-I9500 or GT-I9505
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I'm sure it would be both variants, else he would have mentioned it.

ilabs said:
I'm sure it would be both variants, else he would have mentioned it.
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let's hope you are true

The one thing I love in Samsung phones over others is the fact that it has a buttload of software features. Now, that being said, what I love more is running AOSP on it or CM which means losing those features BUT if you've heard of dual boot....
Just seeing that post gave me a smile, I know what my next phone is

Cool...:good:

It's highly unlikely that the GT-I9500 [Exynos] variant would get stable CM if Samsung remain stingy with the codes required.
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ilabs said:
I try and keep my phones for a long time. I'm still using the i9000 and its been almost 3 years now. CM/AOSP is the one thing that helps keep my phone up to date even after the manufacturer stops supporting the device.
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The only reason you're using cm is cause you're using an old phone that doesn't have any special features of touchwiz that came after the S3 and Note 2. I had the GS1, and I couldn't handle using stock for that. But after the S3, things have changed. Now Samsung offers much more on top of being the most stable and smoothest. There is no reason to lose features, even simple features such as MHL is gone with paranoid android. I am back on stock and can't be happier knowing things are smooth and no stupid bugs.

^^^^^^ totally disagree. May lose some Sammy features, but CM /AOSP offers the best customization and smoothness.
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scottspa74 said:
^^^^^^ totally disagree. May lose some Sammy features, but CM /AOSP offers the best customization and smoothness.
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It's all a matter of taste. Samsung has been including lots of customizations to its Touchwiz interface for the past couple of years.
Customizations that were only included on CM before are now present on Touchwiz and I'm really glad Samsung is paying attention to what people want.
That's my understating of it anyway. I'll still flash CM ROM's when a new Android comes just to see how it is before having to wait for Samsung to update it.

boodies said:
The only reason you're using cm is cause you're using an old phone that doesn't have any special features of touchwiz that came after the S3 and Note 2. I had the GS1, and I couldn't handle using stock for that. But after the S3, things have changed. Now Samsung offers much more on top of being the most stable and smoothest. There is no reason to lose features, even simple features such as MHL is gone with paranoid android. I am back on stock and can't be happier knowing things are smooth and no stupid bugs.
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Yes, I agree with you on that. Samsung does stuff in enough features that you may not need CM/AOSP. But my concern is still about after Samsung stops supporting the handset for android upgrades. I doubt I would have been able to run my i9000 on GB till now.

boodies said:
I'd personally stick to stock rom. It's the most stable and offers the most features.
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This times 500000000000 billion. Do not care about CM one bit.
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Why not have the best of both worlds? Use the handset with stock for the first year or so, and then when Samsung is getting slow on the updates (or stopping) start rolling with AOSP. In a similar way when I built my computer I ran my processor and GPU like normal for a few years. After that, I started overclocking to help keep pace with games and stuff. That is, unless you intend to upgrade every year in which case it won't matter as much.

Masonfield said:
Why not have the best of both worlds? Use the handset with stock for the first year or so, and then when Samsung is getting slow on the updates (or stopping) start rolling with AOSP..
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Agreed. To me that's the biggest upside of AOSP ROMs, having the latest version of Android. When you've always got the latest software it's a lot easier to hold onto your hardware for a while longer. I plan to stick with stock for quite a while.

boodies said:
I'd personally stick to stock rom. It's the most stable and offers the most features.
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barondebxl said:
This times 500000000000 billion. Do not care about CM one bit.
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Then why even bother to post your obvious disdain here.. Couldn't resist the opportunity?
There are those of us that are looking forward to it..
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But I doubt CM will still have the hand/eye gesture features.

scottspa74 said:
^^^^^^ totally disagree. May lose some Sammy features, but CM /AOSP offers the best customization and smoothness.
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Not necessarily. From my experience, touchwiz based ROMs get better battery life, stability etc. than CM. Or at worse, it's barely noticeable, even if such differences do exist. And you miss out on awesome dev - like Perseus on AOSP (best kernel for Note 2/SGS3 IMHO).

Can't wait to overclock an overclocked CPU with some CM!

source code released for up coming 9505g google edition

will we see an official rom soon 2 for us 9505 users
http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=search&searchValue=GT-I9505G

I don't think that helps us one bit. Hope I'm proven wrong, though.

Nice ty.:angel:
I wonder what Ill get first Wednesday. Windows 8.1 preview or stock Android 4.2.2 for I9505 =]

Aerys said:
Nice ty.:angel:
I wonder what Ill get first Wednesday. Windows 8.1 preview or stock Android 4.2.2 for I9505 =]
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Do you even have to ask that? Android, of course! :victory:

any leaks yet team..

SALAH100 said:
any leaks yet team..
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My friend, wait 1 day and we probably have official rom

How to use the code?

John Chu said:
How to use the code?
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Dial *#THE CODE# and your phone will change to GT-I9505G

DjeMBeY said:
Dial *#THE CODE# and your phone will change to GT-I9505G
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Careful now, he might actually believe it.

I am still trying to figure out the logic of wanting the stock AOSP for the S4 from Samsung.
How will this be any different from running any other AOSP rom? I mean, if you check out PA GamerZ ROM, that works quite well as a daily driver. Why would we want to use this stock AOSP (with features that are quite basic)? Just to get 4.3 when it comes out? So? Some dev will port that anyways.
I mean, if someone bought the S4, wasn't it for the features? If anyone wanted stock AOSP then why not Nexus 4? Ok if hardware is the question, then really waiting for the next Nexus isn't that hard.
So can someone explain to me why?

kingzain900 said:
I am still trying to figure out the logic of wanting the stock AOSP for the S4 from Samsung.
How will this be any different from running any other AOSP rom? I mean, if you check out PA GamerZ ROM, that works quite well as a daily driver. Why would we want to use this stock AOSP (with features that are quite basic)? Just to get 4.3 when it comes out? So? Some dev will port that anyways.
I mean, if someone bought the S4, wasn't it for the features? If anyone wanted stock AOSP then why not Nexus 4? Ok if hardware is the question, then really waiting for the next Nexus isn't that hard.
So can someone explain to me why?
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For someone like me, it's not about running the stock AOSP on S4. It's about how it can improve the AOSP based custom roms like CM, PA, etc.
Hopefully, Samsung/Google will release proper source codes as quickly as for Nexus devices so that custom roms can run better on S4.
I've been using GS3 (i9305), mainly with CM for the last 10 months or so. It works ok as a daily driver, but not as well as it could've been, mainly because not all the necessary sources are available/released.
I tried Nexus 4 for about a couple of weeks and running CM was definately more fluid/enjoyable than on GS3.
But I couldn't really get used to not having the physical home button and lack of storage space. If GS4 Google Edition is released with exact same hardward as normal i9505, then this will be almost perfect - custom roms running as well as on Nexus devices with physical home button and MicroSD slot.

kingzain900 said:
I am still trying to figure out the logic of wanting the stock AOSP for the S4 from Samsung.
How will this be any different from running any other AOSP rom? I mean, if you check out PA GamerZ ROM, that works quite well as a daily driver. Why would we want to use this stock AOSP (with features that are quite basic)? Just to get 4.3 when it comes out? So? Some dev will port that anyways.
I mean, if someone bought the S4, wasn't it for the features? If anyone wanted stock AOSP then why not Nexus 4? Ok if hardware is the question, then really waiting for the next Nexus isn't that hard.
So can someone explain to me why?
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In simple terms.
Google gets to have its vanilla version of Android on a flagship device without having to subsidize the cost of designing the hardware.
Unlike Nexus devices where Google invests R&D money to make the hardware... having Samsung and HTC put a version of Stock Android on the device pretty much absolves Google of any financial liability in relation to hardware development.
Nexus devices are traditionally spartan... and Google likes it that way... but what if mobile manufacturers want to have nexus compatible device with all the bells and whistles... they will all compete on who has the most Nexus compatible device.
This will attract developers and customers that prefer the stock Google experience
Bear in mind also Google is still developing their Motorola flagship device... this has handset makers very jittery.
Having a GE also puts the latest Android on a device and puts pressure on the makers of the device to move build it out into their MAIN version of Android.
So Key lime pie or 4.3 should come quicker on the HTC and S4 than would be tradtional.
Another issues is transparency.
For too long handset makers have said "our phone can't run the latest version of Android" when we know they lie.
Samsung has been good.. the S2 has JB while the HTC Sensation 4G has all but been dumped by their makers.
Companies that have a Google edition will have that extra edge in longevity.

Gillion said:
In simple terms.
Google gets to have its vanilla version of Android on a flagship device without having to subsidize the cost of designing the hardware.
Unlike Nexus devices where Google invests R&D money to make the hardware... having Samsung and HTC put a version of Stock Android on the device pretty much absolves Google of any financial liability in relation to hardware development.
Nexus devices are traditionally spartan... and Google likes it that way... but what if mobile manufacturers want to have nexus compatible device with all the bells and whistles... they will all compete on who has the most Nexus compatible device.
This will attract developers and customers that prefer the stock Google experience
Bear in mind also Google is still developing their Motorola flagship device... this has handset makers very jittery.
Having a GE also puts the latest Android on a device and puts pressure on the makers of the device to move build it out into their MAIN version of Android.
So Key lime pie or 4.3 should come quicker on the HTC and S4 than would be tradtional.
Another issues is transparency.
For too long handset makers have said "our phone can't run the latest version of Android" when we know they lie.
Samsung has been good.. the S2 has JB while the HTC Sensation 4G has all but been dumped by their makers.
Companies that have a Google edition will have that extra edge in longevity.
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Very good answer. Makes sense. It'd be exciting to see what Motorola device Google releases. MoNex (MoNey?).

kingzain900 said:
Very good answer. Makes sense. It'd be exciting to see what Motorola device Google releases. MoNex (MoNey?).
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This could be the much rumored Google X Phone...
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Theshawty said:
Careful now, he might actually believe it.
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Easy, everyone knows that to work, he'd to input: *#THE SOURCE CODE# , otherwiste it will not work :laugh:

what time the phone will be up for eating anyone knows?
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big_b0sss said:
what time the phone will be up for eating anyone knows?
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Don't think I'd want to eat a phone, actually.
Bet it'll be up noonish, USA time, which means roughly 18.00-19.00 Brit time.

big_b0sss said:
what time the phone will be up for eating anyone knows?
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I think it can be all day in USA

Aerys said:
I think it can be all day in USA
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yeah thats right all day i remember how nexus 4 was eaten within an hour
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big_b0sss said:
yeah thats right all day i remember how nexus 4 was eaten within an hour
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I hope we get firmware today

When are we getting updated to 4.2.2?

My wife's tab 2 got updated last week...
Anyone know what features we will see?
I'm quite keen to know what to expect and when.
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charmz2k2 said:
My wife's tab 2 got updated last week...
Anyone know what features we will see?
I'm quite keen to know what to expect and when.
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I guess you mean 4.3, your Note 10.1 is currently on 4.2.2 if you are using Cyanomod 10.1
About 4.3, you can expect some improvements on multi user support (like blocking some apps for each user), a better phone app, the new gapps so the new camera and hopefully better battery performance. No big deal in my opinion

serdasteclas said:
I guess you mean 4.3, your Note 10.1 is currently on 4.2.2 if you are using Cyanomod 10.1
About 4.3, you can expect some improvements on multi user support (like blocking some apps for each user), a better phone app, the new gapps so the new camera and hopefully better battery performance. No big deal in my opinion
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I believe he is asking about stock OTA update... doesn't seem like his using custom rom when asking like that,.

Hi everyone,
I believe we all would like to get 4.2/4.3 OTA update from Samsung. For people like me, multiwindow tasking is very important and I don't want to lose it with CM/AOKP. It is very weird that Samsung hasn't updated our Note 10.1. I still think it is by far the best choice in tablets world. Lets keep our fingers crossed, so Samsung updates directly to 4.3 (So then this delay feels reasonable) and also includes Multi-User.

Franzuu said:
Hi everyone,
I believe we all would like to get 4.2/4.3 OTA update from Samsung. For people like me, multiwindow tasking is very important and I don't want to lose it with CM/AOKP. It is very weird that Samsung hasn't updated our Note 10.1. I still think it is by far the best choice in tablets world. Lets keep our fingers crossed, so Samsung updates directly to 4.3 (So then this delay feels reasonable) and also includes Multi-User.
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hi
some were on the net i read that our pad will get the next major update ie the KLP directly lets hope for the best :good::laugh:

haree said:
hi
some were on the net i read that our pad will get the next major update ie the KLP directly lets hope for the best :good::laugh:
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Samsung said that note 10.1 will get an update to 5.0 and from some sources I heard we will directly get it. But this was before android 4.3. So I guess we are in queue for android 4.3. Klp is a pretty long way off.
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akshayguptaus said:
Samsung said that note 10.1 will get an update to 5.0 and from some sources I heard we will directly get it. But this was before android 4.3. So I guess we are in queue for android 4.3. Klp is a pretty long way off.
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hi
hope it happens soon every samsung phone is getting the 4.3 update except us :crying:
note got it this is were i read it see this link : http://technosamigos.com/samsung-galaxy-android-4-3-jelly-bean-update/
link 2 : http://technosamigos.com/samsung-galaxy-phones-android-5-0-key-lime-pie-update-schedule/