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Galaxy S2 what do you think?

http://www.redmondpie.com/samsung-galaxy-s2-specs-will-blow-your-brains-out/
what do you think about this phone?

Pretty incredible. I guess this is still single core though?

rumors.. rumors.. rumors...
Where is the dual hd projectors?

Quite impressed but I agree with the author - instead of focusing on putting out faster processors that barely make a difference with the apps that we have, they should really work on increasing battery life. If the 2ghz makes the battery last a shorter time than my Captivate then it just isn't worth it. I'd much rather have the same specs we have now but with a battery that can last 2 full days with normal use instead of one. I'm not saying I'm unhappy with my current battery life, it easily gets me through a day, but I'd prefer to only charge every other day if the option was there.

Krad said:
rumors.. rumors.. rumors...
Where is the dual hd projectors?
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I head it will mow your lawn and change the oil in your car too. Spread the word..

cliffgardner said:
I head it will mow your lawn and change the oil in your car too. Spread the word..
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Damn...sign me up..I got a 4 car and 1 SUV household to change the oil on and over 1 acre of yard to mow
Mac

I'd honestly be much more excited to see samsung commit to gingerbread for its current (and still top of the market) generation

I appreciate the bump of the screen to "4.3 in" I tested my friend's droid x, and I like how "full" it feels XD

This speculation looks cool, but even if it is "real" it would most likely be push back to like Q4 of 2011, Honestly Samsung has pushed back Froyo so much. Those stats look great but they really need to work with their software to enhance android OS for their Hummingbird CPU architecture. The snapdragon Cpu is so enhanced with Froyo, hopefully Gingerbread... hopin... the actual device looks great though. I like the slate design.

Me wants.
Me drools
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As far as bettery life is concerned I doubt it will make a huge impact. From what I've read the dual core designs don't really require much more power than their single core counterparts so I imagine they would have a 2ghz CPU designed similarly in efficiency. I'm with the idea though that it sounds like overkill but if you put the hardware out someone will find a way to use it. With this phone being as fast as it is ill imagine ill be able to ride out my contract with it no problem. I like having the latest and greatest but if nothing really takes advantage of it before the next Gen comes out its not worth it. It is amazing to see the strides these smartphones are taking.

Cool. But it's so worthless.
the 1ghz hummingbird processor is fast enough for EVERYTHING.
And the design.. it's nothing special. All these phones are looking for and more alike (iphone shape-ish). They need to create something a bit more fancy.

stuff said:
Cool. But it's so worthless.
the 1ghz hummingbird processor is fast enough for EVERYTHING.
And the design.. it's nothing special. All these phones are looking for and more alike (iphone shape-ish). They need to create something a bit more fancy.
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I must say I think the captivate it one of the best looking phones out.

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I must say I think the captivate it one of the best looking phones out.
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Agreed. I want to buy the Otterbox case when it comes out, but I really don't want to cover up the phone's good looks with it. The checkering on the back cover looks really great. And it's so slim! This is a dilemma of great proportions.

\/icious said:
I must say I think the captivate it one of the best looking phones out.
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I'm not a really big fan of the Captivate's design. All the curves just end up wasting space for no particular reason other than to look cool while at the same time making it so different from other phones that there are far, far fewer accessories available for us than pretty much any other 2.1/2.2 Android phone.
I like that CGI mockup of a possible Galaxy S2, it's minimalist and would be very well suited to having an aftermarket case, unlike ours, which tend to look way too rounded after putting on a case.
The thing I'm most interested in is if the AT&T version of the phone will again be a stripped down, gimped, bloatware-filled version of the international version. I will not buy another smartphone until there is one available that has a FFC and a flash. I think it's pretty silly to go through the trouble of redesigning the entire outer casing of the phone while removing features. You're just spending more money for less (it costs far more to make a separate production line for new bodies than it does to simply keep the FFC in; as we've all seen from the Vibrant mods, the FFC assembly is DIRT CHEAP).

BodaciousDrake said:
Agreed. I want to buy the Otterbox case when it comes out, but I really don't want to cover up the phone's good looks with it. The checkering on the back cover looks really great. And it's so slim! This is a dilemma of great proportions.
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Yeah I wont be throwing a case on this bad boy. I was actually going to look into maybe clear coating this thing or something just to give it a little resiliance but since I have insurance ill just rma a new one if gets too beat up
JPS81 said:
I'm not a really big fan of the Captivate's design. All the curves just end up wasting space for no particular reason other than to look cool while at the same time making it so different from other phones that there are far, far fewer accessories available for us than pretty much any other 2.1/2.2 Android phone.
I like that CGI mockup of a possible Galaxy S2, it's minimalist and would be very well suited to having an aftermarket case, unlike ours, which tend to look way too rounded after putting on a case.
The thing I'm most interested in is if the AT&T version of the phone will again be a stripped down, gimped, bloatware-filled version of the international version. I will not buy another smartphone until there is one available that has a FFC and a flash. I think it's pretty silly to go through the trouble of redesigning the entire outer casing of the phone while removing features. You're just spending more money for less (it costs far more to make a separate production line for new bodies than it does to simply keep the FFC in; as we've all seen from the Vibrant mods, the FFC assembly is DIRT CHEAP).
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to me I think the phone shouldn't look like it needs to be covered up with a case. I'm not so sure I understand where your coming from on the design/ accessories issue as I really have not noticed us lacking something other phones have but I really don't keep up with that stuff. I agree about the flash and FFC. I was a little disappointed when I saw a flash was not included.

Can only dream...

Lee1733 said:
Quite impressed but I agree with the author - instead of focusing on putting out faster processors that barely make a difference with the apps that we have, they should really work on increasing battery life. If the 2ghz makes the battery last a shorter time than my Captivate then it just isn't worth it. I'd much rather have the same specs we have now but with a battery that can last 2 full days with normal use instead of one. I'm not saying I'm unhappy with my current battery life, it easily gets me through a day, but I'd prefer to only charge every other day if the option was there.
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Yeah. I'm with Lee on this one. If it is single core, aps will open marginally quicker with the performance limiter being the wireless network. The only benefit I can see if multitasking. I foresee a 2ghz single core phone having poor performance in battery life. A dual core properly architectured can come out with similar battery performance to single. I wish Samsung would focus on improving the current product, and understand the fact that their phones have to be hacked...not to overclock, or over perform; but to make the phone perform the way the hardware allows it to. Not what the software limits it to. I am sure they formatted the drives to preserve the battery life, and not hit the processor so hard, but hey if you roll out a 1GHZ CPU, it should run like a 1GHZ CPU. I love the hardware and look forward to an official release of Froyo. Until then the leaked version with lag fix works great for me. (GPS and all)

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As far as bettery life is concerned I doubt it will make a huge impact. From what I've read the dual core designs don't really require much more power than their single core counterparts so I imagine they would have a 2ghz CPU designed similarly in efficiency. I'm with the idea though that it sounds like overkill but if you put the hardware out someone will find a way to use it. With this phone being as fast as it is ill imagine ill be able to ride out my contract with it no problem. I like having the latest and greatest but if nothing really takes advantage of it before the next Gen comes out its not worth it. It is amazing to see the strides these smartphones are taking.
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I hear the sound of a veteran over zealous overclocker. Let me check, what bridge (s) for pencil overclock?

I just want a higher resolution display. Not to sound like an apple fanboy but what the heck was Samsung thinking? I can see the pixels so clearly on this display (maybe cause its super amoled )
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G2x or wait for Sensation?

Well I've got about $450 that I'm going to use to buy a G2x (probably for a lot cheaper since they are going for $350-$400 locally) BUT I'm wondering if it's worth buying it now seeing as the Sensation is coming out June 8th. I'm guessing it will be $500 off contract as usual so should I save my money, buy some last gen phone and wait for the Sensation or should I buy the G2x and hope the price doesn't fall too low by next month and try to sell it?

I would go with the G2X if your looking for more development. The Sensation is supposed to be pretty locked down.

I think the sensation will be the better phone out of the box but like was said, it will be locked down so probably won't have much dev support.
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Hmm, well other phones have had locked boot loaders and had decent support no? If not then yeah I guess I'll stick with the G2x, I prefer development over out of the box performance.

Yea I was wondering the samething. Might get both one for me and the other for the wife. Hope the Sensation is easy to MOD since I'll be coming from the HD2.

cordaylec said:
Yea I was wondering the samething. Might get both one for me and the other for the wife. Hope the Sensation is easy to MOD since I'll be coming from the HD2.
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It won't be nearly as open as the HD2 and as far as modding I'm sure it'd be easier but it will probably take a while for devs to figure out how to unlock the bootloader.

I am sending my G2x back. It just doesn't seem that impressive. It doesn't feel like as big of a leap forward as I was hoping. I might get the Sensation.

crawler9 said:
I am sending my G2x back. It just doesn't seem that impressive. It doesn't feel like as big of a leap forward as I was hoping. I might get the Sensation.
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A big leap coming from which device?
It's just the first Tegra 2 phone that's why. It's not THAT impressive, but the UI speed is noticeably faster.

Serious_Beans said:
...it will probably take a while for devs to figure out how to unlock the bootloader.
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Assuming they do at all.

Step666 said:
Assuming they do at all.
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Yeah :/ I hope they do because it's a really nice device, design and specs, but the SGS2 looks pretty sick, and with quadrant scores of 3500, that's impressive and it's already been OC'd to 1.5ghz. Quadrant scores don't matter really much, and I don't really like the way it looks, I prefer the design of the Sensation so I really do hope that someone figures out a way to unlock the bootloader and if not I'm sticking with the G2x.

The Galaxy S2's specs are better IMO - the CPU seems to be more capable, it has more RAM and the slight increase in screen res doesn't really make up for the difference between S-LCD and S-AMOLED+.
Not to mention it's so light...

@OP: What device you have now? I personally wouldn't recommend upgrading right now, wait until end of the year at least. Mobile technology is in that stage right now where a 6 month old phone is "outdated".
And I would definitely wait for Sensation to see how things go down and see if bootloader is encrypted and then maybe make your decision.
The Galaxy S2's specs are better IMO - the CPU seems to be more capable
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That's subjective.
it has more RAM
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Yep +1
slight increase in screen res doesn't really make up for the difference between S-LCD and S-AMOLED+.
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Sure it does! Just look at the difference between 2 30" monitors, one running at 1920x1080 and other at 2560x1600, the difference is HUGE. Plus I would take close to accurate colors over somewhat saturated colors any day.
Not to mention it's so light...
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That's a down point for many people including me, I need to feel some weight to a phone. Also Galaxy is made out of plastic which also is a thumbs down from me.

ErOR22 said:
That's subjective.
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Not really.
It's posted some ridiculous benchmarks, which it's true mean very little individually but when you take them all together, it speaks volumes.
ErOR22 said:
Sure it does! Just look at the difference between 2 30" monitors, one running at 1920x1080 and other at 2560x1600, the difference is HUGE. Plus I would take close to accurate colors over somewhat saturated colors any day.
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Now you're just being ridiculous.
It's more like the difference between 1920x1200 and 1920x1080.
qHD is half-arsed BS, it's an excuse for manufacturers to avoid actually improving screen resolutions in a meaningful way.
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That's a down point for many people including me, I need to feel some weight to a phone.
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But not necessarily for the OP.

g2x quadrant test blows any phone of the planet with its dual core processor

Step666 said:
Not really.
It's posted some ridiculous benchmarks, which it's true mean very little individually but when you take them all together, it speaks volumes.
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Well from what I have seen I wasn't THAT impressed. It's better for sure but for how much these things cost I'm not sure it's worth it.
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Now you're just being ridiculous.
It's more like the difference between 1920x1200 and 1920x1080.
qHD is half-arsed BS, it's an excuse for manufacturers to avoid actually improving screen resolutions in a meaningful way
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I knew you were gonna say that and well after thinking about it for a bit I must say I was being a bit ridiculous.
But unless there are more powerful GPUs in phones they can't really up the resolution that much. Look at the ASUS Transformer tablet (I think that's the name), quite a bit of lag.
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But not necessarily for the OP.
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Of course but I was just stating my opinion and fact in case OP wasn't aware of that.
Anyway I think either phone is great it's just a matter of preference and it's ability to be unlocked and flashed.
EDIT: My DHD at stock speed achieves around 2300 Quadrant and 37fps in NenaMark. At 1.6Ghz Quadrant scores around 3300 and NenaMark is around 46fps. Going higher didn't do much difference as the device is majorly undervolted.
Is the extra cost really worth the extra performance?

ErOR22 said:
Well from what I have seen I wasn't THAT impressed. It's better for sure but for how much these things cost I'm not sure it's worth it.
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It generally out-does the Tegra2-based handsets by about 20% if memory serves (which makes sense since they're both built around the same ARM architecture and the Exynos CPU in the Galaxy S2 is clocked 20% faster) but like all these things, you get the odd benchmark that seems to go against the flow as it were.
On the other hand, the benchmarks for the 1.5GHz MSM8660 dev hardware weren't generally 50% better than than the Tegra2 benchmarks, which leaves me thinking that down-clocked to 1.2GHz like the Sensation and Evo 3D will use, it won't be able to compete with the Exynos.
Of course, these are all synthetic benchmarks and not indicative of real-world performance but combined with the higher screen resolution and less RAM, I have a suspicion the Sensation won't feel as smooth or as quick as the Galaxy S2.
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I knew you were gonna say that and well after thinking about it for a bit I must say I was being a bit ridiculous.
But unless there are more powerful GPUs in phones they can't really up the resolution that much. Look at the ASUS Transformer tablet (I think that's the name), quite a bit of lag.
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Well, if they were to push higher screen resolutions, manufacturers could always use something like the SGX543 GPU the iPad2 uses - it's supposed to be an improved version of the SGX540 the original Galaxy S uses, which is still one of the best GPUs in use in mobile phones just now.
As for the Transformer, I'm a bit surprised - I thought the reviews were generally very positive, much more so than those of the Xoom and the new Acer tablet.
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EDIT: My DHD at stock speed achieves around 2300 Quadrant and 37fps in NenaMark. At 1.6Ghz Quadrant scores around 3300 and NenaMark is around 46fps. Going higher didn't do much difference as the device is majorly undervolted.
Is the extra cost really worth the extra performance?
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I can't speak for New Zealand but over here the SIM-free and contract prices for the Galaxy S2 are the same as they were for the Desire HD when it was first launched.
Obviously it's come down in price since then but so will the Samsung in time.

I personally dislike the light feeling of the Galaxy S series. The only one that wasn't so bad was the Nexus S, it had a decent weight to it, but I prefer heavier phones. Also I really love SAMOLED Technology, and I heard SAMOLED+ is even better.
As far as benchmarks and speed, if the UI is smooth after a certain point you can't really tell if it's any smoother.
Also if the G2x has better development that means overclocking and improved kernels and roms which would make it better than the Sensation. I really like the specs of the SGS2 but if it's as light as the Vibrant I will hate it. Currently I'm using no phone lol and I don't feel justified paying $250 for a Nexus One or $375 for a Nexus S when I can get a G2x locally for $350 which is what I'm going to pick it up for tomorrow. I'm really hoping after this leap in phone processing power they will focus on battery and screen resolution. Every screen should be SAMOLED+ and Retina Display with a weeks worth of battery. I'm sure the technology for it exists already...hell they could use tiny fuel cells to power everything, but most big battery companies have patented that technology so fail there.

I know it doesn't mean that much but, I just ran my first quadrant score and it was 2725 on the G2x I got today.
I'm really liking this phone! I have to order some kind of protection for it now.

tooter1 said:
I know it doesn't mean that much but, I just ran my first quadrant score and it was 2725 on the G2x I got today.
I'm really liking this phone! I have to order some kind of protection for it now.
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That's pretty high! I'm hoping to keep my next phone for AT LEAST 6 months. The last phone I had was my LE Nexus S(which got scammed :/ ) which I had for about 4 months? Maybe a little less, but if the only phones I have to look forward to are the Sensation and SGS2 I might just keep the G2x. Will have to see how the SGS2 feels in hand.

I got a 3200 quadrant on my Vibrant, overclocked at 1.42!

Nexus Prime and ICS on video

A hands-on video that allegedly features the Samsung Nexus Prime. Find out more about it here: http://www.gsmarena.com/first_nexus_prime_live_photo_and_handson_video_surface_-news-3241.php

Fremen567 said:
A hands-on video that allegedly features the Samsung Nexus Prime. Find out more about it here: http://www.gsmarena.com/first_nexus_prime_live_photo_and_handson_video_surface_-news-3241.php
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Looks awesome but I can see the guy struggling with reach so I think it will be huge and unfortunately too big for my taste. However, just the specs we're hearing will probably twist my arm.

holy **** anyone see new rumors specs now
exynos 1.5ghz, 4.65 1280x720 super amoled plus
powerVR sgx543 32gb storage
i wasn't wasn't impressed when they mentioned slcd and qualcomm but now OMG this thing is goingto be a beast hope the rumors are true

This is the second time we've seen this similar interface (first was the guy that bought the Nexus S off eBay with ICS on it). I am thinking this is probably legit.
demo23019 said:
holy **** anyone see new rumors specs now
exynos 1.5ghz, 4.65 1280x720 super amoled plus
powerVR sgx543 32gb storage
i wasn't fan when they mentioned slcd and qualcomm but now OMG this thing is a beast i want
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I don't think anyone ever said SLCD, unless they were talking about the European version. Same as Nexus S.

tekkitan said:
This is the second time we've seen this similar interface (first was the guy that bought the Nexus S off eBay with ICS on it). I am thinking this is probably legit.
I don't think anyone ever said SLCD, unless they were talking about the European version. Same as Nexus S.
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oh ok i thought i ready slcd default
..games will look fantastic with anti aliasing and at 720
hope verizon doesn't get first dips should stay unlocked gsm

Awesome specs but too big of a phone... I rather not wear hammer pants just to be able to fit this phone in my pocket. Very disappointed with how big they went.... I just knew Samsung would f*** this up considering they're the one who made the Samsung Galaxy Note.... just ridiculous.

Klk450 said:
Awesome specs but too big of a phone...
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i think that's bare minimum screen size to fit such a high res before things become too small
i thought too big also but might not be that bad.
Plus the added more curvature to the phone i think this time the screen actually has curve to it
sucks for me im broke and no job ATM
wonder what this best is going to cost

demo23019 said:
i think that's bar minimum screen size to fit such a high res
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I bet.... probably only way to have such a resolution but i'm still disappointed with how big the screen is.... I haven't met a person with a phone bigger than 4,3. Like i said just kind of disappointed.... =/ it's like waiting for Christmas hoping that you would get a new gaming console or game and later finding out all you got was a sweater... lol just me, BUT i'll keep an open mind and hope the sweater is a really good one.

Klk450 said:
I bet.... probably only way to have such a resolution but i'm still disappointed with how big the screen is.... I haven't met a person with a phone bigger than 4,3. Like i said just kind of disappointed.... =/ it's like waiting for Christmas hoping that you would get a new gaming console or game and later finding out all you got was a sweater... lol just me, BUT i'll keep an open mind and hope the sweater is a really good one.
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yea it is quite big but who knows
the plus side is its first 720p samoled plus, definitely will look sweet

demo23019 said:
yea it is quite big but who knows plus side is its 720p samoled plus will look sweet
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I guess... but with only a 1,750mAh battery, can it really withstand that screen size alongside the display? and actually be able to go a full day with it? I'm like 80% sure i'll be sticking with my Nexus S and hopefully it's single core processor can withstand ICS.

If you think phone is too big don't blame Samsung, blame Google.

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I guess... but with only a 1,750mAh battery, can it really withstand that screen size alongside the display? and actually be able to go a full day with it? I'm like 80% sure i'll be sticking with my Nexus S and hopefully it's single core processor can withstand ICS.
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true but the exynos is cortex a9 supposedly better power consumption compared to A8 and from what i read GS2 has great battery life but again this is a pretty big step up in spec hopefully Samsung will work their magic

It doesn't look much bigger from nexus s...

stavros86 said:
It doesn't look much bigger from nexus s...
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exactly! they did away with the 'physical' softkey buttons, and used that space up for the screen. So, the overall phone size in our hands shouldnt be too much bigger than our NexS...
i'm drooling already

it really awkwardly looks allot like a nexus s. and he doesnt show the back and sides of the device.
so im thinking.BS!
its a nexus S with a ICS rom on it or custom rom.
even though. i want it! it looks damn nice!

Love it. Really looking forward to Google rolling ICS out to the Nexus S (given that I probably won't be picking up the Prime for quite some time).

Looks a lot better then ICS on nexus S last time.

Yeah those custom roms are amazing nowadays. They can actually move the front facing camera now ....

i hope it's not exclusive to verizon. i could never afford verizon or att.

Fremen567 said:
A hands-on video that allegedly features the Samsung Nexus Prime. Find out more about it here: http://www.gsmarena.com/first_nexus_prime_live_photo_and_handson_video_surface_-news-3241.php
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I just HATE on screen keys... it is such a waste of display space.
The same issue as with honeycomb tablets... not only they're widescreen.. but also the status bar must be always present..
this just SUCKS. :/

So what do you guys think about this?

http://www.sammobile.com/2013/04/13...quality-galaxy-note-iii-to-have-a-new-design/
In all honesty, I think this is why competition is great, because it makes OEM step their game up where they have "weaknesses". It'll be interesting to see how Samsung respond in the future. I like their build quality and design, never bothered me but this could be a good thing.

barondebxl said:
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/04/13...quality-galaxy-note-iii-to-have-a-new-design/
In all honesty, I think this is why competition is great, because it makes OEM step their game up where they have "weaknesses". It'll be interesting to see how Samsung respond in the future. I like their build quality and design, never bothered me but this could be a good thing.
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I hope they stay with plastic. Most Samsung users love it because "its the best material for smartphones"... what should they buy if samsung starts building phones with aluminum or other metals?
Oh, suddenly aluminum would be the best :silly:

shox22 said:
I hope they stay with plastic. Most Samsung users love it because "its the best material for smartphones"... what should they buy if samsung starts building phones with aluminum or other metals?
Oh, suddenly aluminum would be the best :silly:
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Yeah they can stay with plastic no problem, just make it more solid like the lumia or One X and change the design maybe? ( but definitely keep the home button and both capacitive buttons )

i think this joke made by Sammobile ( specially their insider :laugh::laugh: )
LOOOL Samsung worried
and i don't want aluminum phone , i think Samsung just need to stop using hyper glaze on the back cover
i really like the feel of back cover of my GS2 and Gnex :good:
IMO N3 will look like Galaxy Mega ( bigger GS4) with S-pen + Note features with 6 inch screen

I hope Samsung doesn't give up on the replaceable battery and microSD slot. The fact is that most people put their expensive phones inside covers so the original design doesn't matter much. It's the kind of thing reviewers make a lot of noise about but most customers don't really care that much.

yeah, "worried" is definitely inaccurate, they are far from worried but let's all keep it real here and not be too one sided. The One has an incredible design and great choice of material ( I won't give it credit for build quality cause they always have QC issues), apparently most people like that. So imagine if Samsung can ( and they certainly can) make the next flagship with a whole new design, choose a strong kind of material, I think it'll be game over for everyone else. We here all like the plastic but many don't, so Samsung will make everyone happy by changing things a little.

Strategist said:
I hope Samsung doesn't give up on the replaceable battery and microSD slot. The fact is that most people put their expensive phones inside covers so the original design doesn't matter much. It's the kind of thing reviewers make a lot of noise about but most customers don't really care that much.
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I absolutely agree on the replaceable battery and SD card, this is something they cannot get rid of. But they can pull off a different design and keep those two in place without a problem.

yahyoh said:
i think this joke made by Sammobile ( specially their insider :laugh::laugh: )
LOOOL Samsung worried
and i don't want aluminum phone , i think Samsung just need to stop using hyper glaze on the back cover
i really like the feel of back cover of my GS2 and Gnex :good:
IMO N3 will look like Galaxy Mega ( bigger GS4) with S-pen + Note features with 6 inch screen
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"Galaxy Mega." Someone listened to the Engadget Mobile podcast.
I have plumped for the HTC One, coming from the Galaxy S2 due to 2 year contracts, and never cared for what others call "premium" builds.
Having owned the HTC One for a few days now I have to say that having a phone made from more "expensive feeling" materials is by no means a bad thing.
It can only be a good thing if Samsung start putting a bit more effort into handset design. We all know that Samsung usually have the better specs. It really can't hurt to back this up with better design.
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barondebxl said:
Yeah they can stay with plastic no problem, just make it more solid like the lumia or One X and change the design maybe? ( but definitely keep the home button and both capacitive buttons )
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Yes, they should definitely change the design. Last year most people were like: "look at that ugly sgs3"... but after a while, the people get used to it. But thtat doesnt mean samsung designs are nice. They are not in my eyes.
The One X was a really cute smartphone made of polycarbonat. It still feels 10000 times better then the glossy plastic s3 (and probably s4). If they use that kind of plastic, it would be a big step forward in look and feel. But i doubt they will do. It will be for sure more expensiv.

What does design have to do with build quality? People get the two confused, Samsung have the best build quality these days. People always say HTC One has the best build quality......... like no I've exchanged it 3 times, all have sucked and I decided to get a GS4 instead and luckily the Network allowed me to do so. I just hope my choice pays off....

yahyoh said:
i think this joke made by Sammobile ( specially their insider :laugh::laugh: )
LOOOL Samsung worried
and i don't want aluminum phone , i think Samsung just need to stop using hyper glaze on the back cover
i really like the feel of back cover of my GS2 and Gnex :good:
IMO N3 will look like Galaxy Mega ( bigger GS4) with S-pen + Note features with 6 inch screen
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Agreed with the Hyperglaze. My S2's back-plate/battery cover was matte, and it was just fine, looked good too.

Terrorantula said:
What does design have to do with build quality? People get the two confused, Samsung have the best build quality these days. People always say HTC One has the best build quality......... like no I've exchanged it 3 times, all have sucked and I decided to get a GS4 instead and luckily the Network allowed me to do so. I just hope my choice pays off....
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You're absolutely right, and I actually said it a few posts above ^^. HTC has great designs and choice of material is arguably very good ( has its own pros and cons) but I can't give them credit for their build quality cause they always have QC issues.

Terrorantula said:
What does design have to do with build quality? People get the two confused, Samsung have the best build quality these days. People always say HTC One has the best build quality......... like no I've exchanged it 3 times, all have sucked and I decided to get a GS4 instead and luckily the Network allowed me to do so. I just hope my choice pays off....
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100% certified, correct. To quote my own signature, "don't mistake build materials for build quality". From multiple accounts, the HTC One build quality is poor.
I will bet that the Galaxy S4 build quality will exceed the HTC One's build quality. Argue materials all you would like, but it's time for reviewers, forum members, and the general public to learn the English language. Materials, by definition, is not quality.

I dunno, I like the build just fine but maybe they could use matte polycarbonate like Lumia or HOX. I prefer those over the hyperglaze.
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Terrorantula said:
What does design have to do with build quality?
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What does SamMobile have to do with fact? The further out something is, the more likely they are to be fishing for click throughs.
Enough said...
BREAKING: Samsung ditches own AMOLED and EXYNOS inside new Galaxy S IV
Posted by DannyD on 23 February 2013 at 10:01
Yes you just read the title of this message right. Our insider just gave us the first official “unconfirmed” specifications of the next generation Galaxy S, the Galaxy S IV. The Galaxy S IV will no longer use the Samsung EXYNOS processor and according to the latest rumours this processor has overheating issues. Today we can confirm Samsung will use the Snapdragon 600 and it is clocked at 1.9 Ghz which is 0.2 Ghz higher than the HTC One. The Galaxy S IV will have 2 GB of RAM and will come in three variants 16, 32 or 64 GB. As the rumours earlier reported Samsung is going to use a Full HD display. The Galaxy S IV uses a 4,99″ Full-HD SoLux Display we have no information if this is based on LCD3 like the HTC One. But a couple of months ago we posted the first hint regarding Samsung’s LCD factory is ready to produce Full HD panels from early 2013. And we also know Samsung’s AMOLED factory does have many problems with the production of full HD AMOLED screens.
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/02/23...xynos-inside-new-galaxy-s-iv-with-bootscreen/

Right on, brother. Sad that all the tech sites are quoting this, though. Tech blogs love to put in zero effort to their sources.
Where is the "trust, but verify" that the profession should uphold?
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Where is the "trust, but verify" that the profession should uphold?
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It's been replaced by this.
And for our international members, this.

I perfer lighter case or design no matter plastic or metal.

BarryH_GEG said:
What does SamMobile have to do with fact? The further out something is, the more likely they are to be fishing for click throughs.
Enough said...
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This was enough said, for me:
The simple Nature UX interface by Samsung is easy to use and, thanks to the new smart functions, Samsung’s new interface makes the Galaxy S4 even more smarter.
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BarryH_GEG said:
What does SamMobile have to do with fact? The further out something is, the more likely they are to be fishing for click throughs.
Enough said...
BREAKING: Samsung ditches own AMOLED and EXYNOS inside new Galaxy S IV
Posted by DannyD on 23 February 2013 at 10:01
Yes you just read the title of this message right. Our insider just gave us the first official “unconfirmed” specifications of the next generation Galaxy S, the Galaxy S IV. The Galaxy S IV will no longer use the Samsung EXYNOS processor and according to the latest rumours this processor has overheating issues. Today we can confirm Samsung will use the Snapdragon 600 and it is clocked at 1.9 Ghz which is 0.2 Ghz higher than the HTC One. The Galaxy S IV will have 2 GB of RAM and will come in three variants 16, 32 or 64 GB. As the rumours earlier reported Samsung is going to use a Full HD display. The Galaxy S IV uses a 4,99″ Full-HD SoLux Display we have no information if this is based on LCD3 like the HTC One. But a couple of months ago we posted the first hint regarding Samsung’s LCD factory is ready to produce Full HD panels from early 2013. And we also know Samsung’s AMOLED factory does have many problems with the production of full HD AMOLED screens.
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/02/23...xynos-inside-new-galaxy-s-iv-with-bootscreen/
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One thing is for sure though, Samsung is NOT worried. But they may consider changing their design for next year.

Do You Feel Cheated?

Hi All,
So Samsung is on verge of Announcing Galaxy S4 Active, basically a much better phone then S4 except the Camera. Personally i am ok with that trade off as i get water proof features and a much better build quality. The pixel density is much more as well.
Rumoured Specs of Active from GSMARENA:
The specs are expected to be the same and the live pictures below confirm it - the device is running on a quad-core 1.9GHz processor with Adreno 320 GPU, which most definitely means a Snapdragon 600 chipset. The screen supposedly has the same size and resolution as the original Galaxy S4 - a 5.0-inch 1080p unit, though it's unclear if it's a Super AMOLED one or not. Strangely enough, the reported pixel density of the phone is 480ppi, so the display might actually be smaller.
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I personally think this is actually the real Flagship from Samsung for this year and not S4, what are your thoughts, do you think you have been cheated by Samsung is you are an S4 owner, or you think it is a part of the market strategy and a must for samsung to consolidate it's numero uno position.

Its 480 dpi not ppi.
So its exactly same actually.

I feel cheated would have preferred a waterproof one as it's always rainy in the UK
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Why should it be DPI? DPI is no measurement for displays ...
Antutu is just showing false information.
Ontopic: Why would anyone feel cheated? It's the exact same phone, plus better durability and minus the 13 MP camera.
And even if it was better, do you sleep worse at night, when there is some faster phone out there? :laugh:

No nothing like that, i still remember people going all out on HTC when HTC one x+ was release saying that how they lost out on a flagship device, when they expected the flagship device the same way for one year. In this case S4 probably would maintain being a flagship for less then 3 months, so a lot of people might feel sad.
For me personally i think it is the right step, maybe this is what they wanted to launch as S4 all along, but probably were not able to complete the tests on time to release it in April.

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So Samsung is on verge of Announcing Galaxy S4 Active, basically a much better phone then S4 except the Camera.
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What makes it a "much better phone?" It's a "different" phone and I'm willing to bet it'll be more expensive than the SGS4. If it's like other waterproof phones all the ports will have covers on them which is a pain in the ass. So it'll appeal to some people (not everyone wants a red phone) and not to others. But to those that want its features and bought a SGS4 because they didn't know the "Active" was coming I can see them feeling "cheated." I'd also question whether the standard SGS4 accessories will work with the Active which could be a downside for some people.

S4 is the main flagship of Samsung and it will stay that way until S5 comes out.
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1) The screen will not be that bright than normal S4 and probably there will be no air view. Also, dropping will still not be a survival situation for it
2) the battery can't be removed and there is no evidence of sdcard slot yet
3) the top and bottom rubber will scratch and break in time and those 3 buttons are crap, they should use buttons like Back and menu on the original S4
However, that red is nice, but making the original S4 more solid and S4 Active like it's easy with a Spigen Slim Armor. There are ways to make the phone waterproof too.
A great feature is that if you want to make a tea or warm the bath water, you can play a 3D game and then submerge the phone in that water. It will warm the water (S-thermo?)
also, don't forget how many time you guys needed to take the battery out when flashed or just because the phone frozen. I'm curious how you guys will do it now lol
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I don't feel cheated. I probably would have waited and bought the Galaxy S4 Active, except that I was still using an original Droid X. So it really was well past time to upgrade. I guess the fact that it lasted this long without any such protection (or even a case) means I really shouldn't worry so much about dust or moisture.
Hopefully by the time I need my next phone, the "active" version will be waterproof to 5m or more. Now that would be something. I also don't care about dust; but I'd love to see a phone that can withstand sand without a screen protector.

Waterproof trade off for 8megapixel and s4 pro at 1.9ghz ...cheated ? Nah not really
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x4sper said:
Waterproof trade off for 8megapixel and s4 pro at 1.9ghz ...cheated ? Nah not really
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Where you guys see S4 Pro? I see everywhere S600 :what:
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Well i think let's wait for the official confirmation to come, speculating that screen won't be bright is already indications of trying to put down a phone, whose true nature is yet not revealed

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Well i think let's wait for the official confirmation to come, speculating that screen won't be bright is already indications of trying to put down a phone, whose true nature is yet not revealed
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Yeah, I'm sick of speculations too. However, most of phones which are water and dust resistant doesn't have bright screen as the S4. You can see the photos, the brightness is minimum I think, but the screen is too reflective because probably is thicker. But of course, let's just wait.

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x4sper said:
Waterproof trade off for 8megapixel and s4 pro at 1.9ghz ...cheated ? Nah not really
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I'll only be mad if it has more storage