G2x or wait for Sensation? - General Questions and Answers

Well I've got about $450 that I'm going to use to buy a G2x (probably for a lot cheaper since they are going for $350-$400 locally) BUT I'm wondering if it's worth buying it now seeing as the Sensation is coming out June 8th. I'm guessing it will be $500 off contract as usual so should I save my money, buy some last gen phone and wait for the Sensation or should I buy the G2x and hope the price doesn't fall too low by next month and try to sell it?

I would go with the G2X if your looking for more development. The Sensation is supposed to be pretty locked down.

I think the sensation will be the better phone out of the box but like was said, it will be locked down so probably won't have much dev support.
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Hmm, well other phones have had locked boot loaders and had decent support no? If not then yeah I guess I'll stick with the G2x, I prefer development over out of the box performance.

Yea I was wondering the samething. Might get both one for me and the other for the wife. Hope the Sensation is easy to MOD since I'll be coming from the HD2.

cordaylec said:
Yea I was wondering the samething. Might get both one for me and the other for the wife. Hope the Sensation is easy to MOD since I'll be coming from the HD2.
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It won't be nearly as open as the HD2 and as far as modding I'm sure it'd be easier but it will probably take a while for devs to figure out how to unlock the bootloader.

I am sending my G2x back. It just doesn't seem that impressive. It doesn't feel like as big of a leap forward as I was hoping. I might get the Sensation.

crawler9 said:
I am sending my G2x back. It just doesn't seem that impressive. It doesn't feel like as big of a leap forward as I was hoping. I might get the Sensation.
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A big leap coming from which device?
It's just the first Tegra 2 phone that's why. It's not THAT impressive, but the UI speed is noticeably faster.

Serious_Beans said:
...it will probably take a while for devs to figure out how to unlock the bootloader.
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Assuming they do at all.

Step666 said:
Assuming they do at all.
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Yeah :/ I hope they do because it's a really nice device, design and specs, but the SGS2 looks pretty sick, and with quadrant scores of 3500, that's impressive and it's already been OC'd to 1.5ghz. Quadrant scores don't matter really much, and I don't really like the way it looks, I prefer the design of the Sensation so I really do hope that someone figures out a way to unlock the bootloader and if not I'm sticking with the G2x.

The Galaxy S2's specs are better IMO - the CPU seems to be more capable, it has more RAM and the slight increase in screen res doesn't really make up for the difference between S-LCD and S-AMOLED+.
Not to mention it's so light...

@OP: What device you have now? I personally wouldn't recommend upgrading right now, wait until end of the year at least. Mobile technology is in that stage right now where a 6 month old phone is "outdated".
And I would definitely wait for Sensation to see how things go down and see if bootloader is encrypted and then maybe make your decision.
The Galaxy S2's specs are better IMO - the CPU seems to be more capable
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That's subjective.
it has more RAM
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Yep +1
slight increase in screen res doesn't really make up for the difference between S-LCD and S-AMOLED+.
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Sure it does! Just look at the difference between 2 30" monitors, one running at 1920x1080 and other at 2560x1600, the difference is HUGE. Plus I would take close to accurate colors over somewhat saturated colors any day.
Not to mention it's so light...
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That's a down point for many people including me, I need to feel some weight to a phone. Also Galaxy is made out of plastic which also is a thumbs down from me.

ErOR22 said:
That's subjective.
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Not really.
It's posted some ridiculous benchmarks, which it's true mean very little individually but when you take them all together, it speaks volumes.
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Sure it does! Just look at the difference between 2 30" monitors, one running at 1920x1080 and other at 2560x1600, the difference is HUGE. Plus I would take close to accurate colors over somewhat saturated colors any day.
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Now you're just being ridiculous.
It's more like the difference between 1920x1200 and 1920x1080.
qHD is half-arsed BS, it's an excuse for manufacturers to avoid actually improving screen resolutions in a meaningful way.
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That's a down point for many people including me, I need to feel some weight to a phone.
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But not necessarily for the OP.

g2x quadrant test blows any phone of the planet with its dual core processor

Step666 said:
Not really.
It's posted some ridiculous benchmarks, which it's true mean very little individually but when you take them all together, it speaks volumes.
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Well from what I have seen I wasn't THAT impressed. It's better for sure but for how much these things cost I'm not sure it's worth it.
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Now you're just being ridiculous.
It's more like the difference between 1920x1200 and 1920x1080.
qHD is half-arsed BS, it's an excuse for manufacturers to avoid actually improving screen resolutions in a meaningful way
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I knew you were gonna say that and well after thinking about it for a bit I must say I was being a bit ridiculous.
But unless there are more powerful GPUs in phones they can't really up the resolution that much. Look at the ASUS Transformer tablet (I think that's the name), quite a bit of lag.
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But not necessarily for the OP.
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Of course but I was just stating my opinion and fact in case OP wasn't aware of that.
Anyway I think either phone is great it's just a matter of preference and it's ability to be unlocked and flashed.
EDIT: My DHD at stock speed achieves around 2300 Quadrant and 37fps in NenaMark. At 1.6Ghz Quadrant scores around 3300 and NenaMark is around 46fps. Going higher didn't do much difference as the device is majorly undervolted.
Is the extra cost really worth the extra performance?

ErOR22 said:
Well from what I have seen I wasn't THAT impressed. It's better for sure but for how much these things cost I'm not sure it's worth it.
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It generally out-does the Tegra2-based handsets by about 20% if memory serves (which makes sense since they're both built around the same ARM architecture and the Exynos CPU in the Galaxy S2 is clocked 20% faster) but like all these things, you get the odd benchmark that seems to go against the flow as it were.
On the other hand, the benchmarks for the 1.5GHz MSM8660 dev hardware weren't generally 50% better than than the Tegra2 benchmarks, which leaves me thinking that down-clocked to 1.2GHz like the Sensation and Evo 3D will use, it won't be able to compete with the Exynos.
Of course, these are all synthetic benchmarks and not indicative of real-world performance but combined with the higher screen resolution and less RAM, I have a suspicion the Sensation won't feel as smooth or as quick as the Galaxy S2.
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I knew you were gonna say that and well after thinking about it for a bit I must say I was being a bit ridiculous.
But unless there are more powerful GPUs in phones they can't really up the resolution that much. Look at the ASUS Transformer tablet (I think that's the name), quite a bit of lag.
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Well, if they were to push higher screen resolutions, manufacturers could always use something like the SGX543 GPU the iPad2 uses - it's supposed to be an improved version of the SGX540 the original Galaxy S uses, which is still one of the best GPUs in use in mobile phones just now.
As for the Transformer, I'm a bit surprised - I thought the reviews were generally very positive, much more so than those of the Xoom and the new Acer tablet.
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EDIT: My DHD at stock speed achieves around 2300 Quadrant and 37fps in NenaMark. At 1.6Ghz Quadrant scores around 3300 and NenaMark is around 46fps. Going higher didn't do much difference as the device is majorly undervolted.
Is the extra cost really worth the extra performance?
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I can't speak for New Zealand but over here the SIM-free and contract prices for the Galaxy S2 are the same as they were for the Desire HD when it was first launched.
Obviously it's come down in price since then but so will the Samsung in time.

I personally dislike the light feeling of the Galaxy S series. The only one that wasn't so bad was the Nexus S, it had a decent weight to it, but I prefer heavier phones. Also I really love SAMOLED Technology, and I heard SAMOLED+ is even better.
As far as benchmarks and speed, if the UI is smooth after a certain point you can't really tell if it's any smoother.
Also if the G2x has better development that means overclocking and improved kernels and roms which would make it better than the Sensation. I really like the specs of the SGS2 but if it's as light as the Vibrant I will hate it. Currently I'm using no phone lol and I don't feel justified paying $250 for a Nexus One or $375 for a Nexus S when I can get a G2x locally for $350 which is what I'm going to pick it up for tomorrow. I'm really hoping after this leap in phone processing power they will focus on battery and screen resolution. Every screen should be SAMOLED+ and Retina Display with a weeks worth of battery. I'm sure the technology for it exists already...hell they could use tiny fuel cells to power everything, but most big battery companies have patented that technology so fail there.

I know it doesn't mean that much but, I just ran my first quadrant score and it was 2725 on the G2x I got today.
I'm really liking this phone! I have to order some kind of protection for it now.

tooter1 said:
I know it doesn't mean that much but, I just ran my first quadrant score and it was 2725 on the G2x I got today.
I'm really liking this phone! I have to order some kind of protection for it now.
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That's pretty high! I'm hoping to keep my next phone for AT LEAST 6 months. The last phone I had was my LE Nexus S(which got scammed :/ ) which I had for about 4 months? Maybe a little less, but if the only phones I have to look forward to are the Sensation and SGS2 I might just keep the G2x. Will have to see how the SGS2 feels in hand.

I got a 3200 quadrant on my Vibrant, overclocked at 1.42!

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Galaxy S2 what do you think?

http://www.redmondpie.com/samsung-galaxy-s2-specs-will-blow-your-brains-out/
what do you think about this phone?
Pretty incredible. I guess this is still single core though?
rumors.. rumors.. rumors...
Where is the dual hd projectors?
Quite impressed but I agree with the author - instead of focusing on putting out faster processors that barely make a difference with the apps that we have, they should really work on increasing battery life. If the 2ghz makes the battery last a shorter time than my Captivate then it just isn't worth it. I'd much rather have the same specs we have now but with a battery that can last 2 full days with normal use instead of one. I'm not saying I'm unhappy with my current battery life, it easily gets me through a day, but I'd prefer to only charge every other day if the option was there.
Krad said:
rumors.. rumors.. rumors...
Where is the dual hd projectors?
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I head it will mow your lawn and change the oil in your car too. Spread the word..
cliffgardner said:
I head it will mow your lawn and change the oil in your car too. Spread the word..
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Damn...sign me up..I got a 4 car and 1 SUV household to change the oil on and over 1 acre of yard to mow
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I'd honestly be much more excited to see samsung commit to gingerbread for its current (and still top of the market) generation
I appreciate the bump of the screen to "4.3 in" I tested my friend's droid x, and I like how "full" it feels XD
This speculation looks cool, but even if it is "real" it would most likely be push back to like Q4 of 2011, Honestly Samsung has pushed back Froyo so much. Those stats look great but they really need to work with their software to enhance android OS for their Hummingbird CPU architecture. The snapdragon Cpu is so enhanced with Froyo, hopefully Gingerbread... hopin... the actual device looks great though. I like the slate design.
Me wants.
Me drools
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As far as bettery life is concerned I doubt it will make a huge impact. From what I've read the dual core designs don't really require much more power than their single core counterparts so I imagine they would have a 2ghz CPU designed similarly in efficiency. I'm with the idea though that it sounds like overkill but if you put the hardware out someone will find a way to use it. With this phone being as fast as it is ill imagine ill be able to ride out my contract with it no problem. I like having the latest and greatest but if nothing really takes advantage of it before the next Gen comes out its not worth it. It is amazing to see the strides these smartphones are taking.
Cool. But it's so worthless.
the 1ghz hummingbird processor is fast enough for EVERYTHING.
And the design.. it's nothing special. All these phones are looking for and more alike (iphone shape-ish). They need to create something a bit more fancy.
stuff said:
Cool. But it's so worthless.
the 1ghz hummingbird processor is fast enough for EVERYTHING.
And the design.. it's nothing special. All these phones are looking for and more alike (iphone shape-ish). They need to create something a bit more fancy.
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I must say I think the captivate it one of the best looking phones out.
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I must say I think the captivate it one of the best looking phones out.
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Agreed. I want to buy the Otterbox case when it comes out, but I really don't want to cover up the phone's good looks with it. The checkering on the back cover looks really great. And it's so slim! This is a dilemma of great proportions.
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I must say I think the captivate it one of the best looking phones out.
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I'm not a really big fan of the Captivate's design. All the curves just end up wasting space for no particular reason other than to look cool while at the same time making it so different from other phones that there are far, far fewer accessories available for us than pretty much any other 2.1/2.2 Android phone.
I like that CGI mockup of a possible Galaxy S2, it's minimalist and would be very well suited to having an aftermarket case, unlike ours, which tend to look way too rounded after putting on a case.
The thing I'm most interested in is if the AT&T version of the phone will again be a stripped down, gimped, bloatware-filled version of the international version. I will not buy another smartphone until there is one available that has a FFC and a flash. I think it's pretty silly to go through the trouble of redesigning the entire outer casing of the phone while removing features. You're just spending more money for less (it costs far more to make a separate production line for new bodies than it does to simply keep the FFC in; as we've all seen from the Vibrant mods, the FFC assembly is DIRT CHEAP).
BodaciousDrake said:
Agreed. I want to buy the Otterbox case when it comes out, but I really don't want to cover up the phone's good looks with it. The checkering on the back cover looks really great. And it's so slim! This is a dilemma of great proportions.
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Yeah I wont be throwing a case on this bad boy. I was actually going to look into maybe clear coating this thing or something just to give it a little resiliance but since I have insurance ill just rma a new one if gets too beat up
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I'm not a really big fan of the Captivate's design. All the curves just end up wasting space for no particular reason other than to look cool while at the same time making it so different from other phones that there are far, far fewer accessories available for us than pretty much any other 2.1/2.2 Android phone.
I like that CGI mockup of a possible Galaxy S2, it's minimalist and would be very well suited to having an aftermarket case, unlike ours, which tend to look way too rounded after putting on a case.
The thing I'm most interested in is if the AT&T version of the phone will again be a stripped down, gimped, bloatware-filled version of the international version. I will not buy another smartphone until there is one available that has a FFC and a flash. I think it's pretty silly to go through the trouble of redesigning the entire outer casing of the phone while removing features. You're just spending more money for less (it costs far more to make a separate production line for new bodies than it does to simply keep the FFC in; as we've all seen from the Vibrant mods, the FFC assembly is DIRT CHEAP).
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to me I think the phone shouldn't look like it needs to be covered up with a case. I'm not so sure I understand where your coming from on the design/ accessories issue as I really have not noticed us lacking something other phones have but I really don't keep up with that stuff. I agree about the flash and FFC. I was a little disappointed when I saw a flash was not included.
Can only dream...
Lee1733 said:
Quite impressed but I agree with the author - instead of focusing on putting out faster processors that barely make a difference with the apps that we have, they should really work on increasing battery life. If the 2ghz makes the battery last a shorter time than my Captivate then it just isn't worth it. I'd much rather have the same specs we have now but with a battery that can last 2 full days with normal use instead of one. I'm not saying I'm unhappy with my current battery life, it easily gets me through a day, but I'd prefer to only charge every other day if the option was there.
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Yeah. I'm with Lee on this one. If it is single core, aps will open marginally quicker with the performance limiter being the wireless network. The only benefit I can see if multitasking. I foresee a 2ghz single core phone having poor performance in battery life. A dual core properly architectured can come out with similar battery performance to single. I wish Samsung would focus on improving the current product, and understand the fact that their phones have to be hacked...not to overclock, or over perform; but to make the phone perform the way the hardware allows it to. Not what the software limits it to. I am sure they formatted the drives to preserve the battery life, and not hit the processor so hard, but hey if you roll out a 1GHZ CPU, it should run like a 1GHZ CPU. I love the hardware and look forward to an official release of Froyo. Until then the leaked version with lag fix works great for me. (GPS and all)
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As far as bettery life is concerned I doubt it will make a huge impact. From what I've read the dual core designs don't really require much more power than their single core counterparts so I imagine they would have a 2ghz CPU designed similarly in efficiency. I'm with the idea though that it sounds like overkill but if you put the hardware out someone will find a way to use it. With this phone being as fast as it is ill imagine ill be able to ride out my contract with it no problem. I like having the latest and greatest but if nothing really takes advantage of it before the next Gen comes out its not worth it. It is amazing to see the strides these smartphones are taking.
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I hear the sound of a veteran over zealous overclocker. Let me check, what bridge (s) for pencil overclock?
I just want a higher resolution display. Not to sound like an apple fanboy but what the heck was Samsung thinking? I can see the pixels so clearly on this display (maybe cause its super amoled )
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Nexus Prime and ICS on video

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A hands-on video that allegedly features the Samsung Nexus Prime. Find out more about it here: http://www.gsmarena.com/first_nexus_prime_live_photo_and_handson_video_surface_-news-3241.php
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Looks awesome but I can see the guy struggling with reach so I think it will be huge and unfortunately too big for my taste. However, just the specs we're hearing will probably twist my arm.
holy **** anyone see new rumors specs now
exynos 1.5ghz, 4.65 1280x720 super amoled plus
powerVR sgx543 32gb storage
i wasn't wasn't impressed when they mentioned slcd and qualcomm but now OMG this thing is goingto be a beast hope the rumors are true
This is the second time we've seen this similar interface (first was the guy that bought the Nexus S off eBay with ICS on it). I am thinking this is probably legit.
demo23019 said:
holy **** anyone see new rumors specs now
exynos 1.5ghz, 4.65 1280x720 super amoled plus
powerVR sgx543 32gb storage
i wasn't fan when they mentioned slcd and qualcomm but now OMG this thing is a beast i want
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I don't think anyone ever said SLCD, unless they were talking about the European version. Same as Nexus S.
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This is the second time we've seen this similar interface (first was the guy that bought the Nexus S off eBay with ICS on it). I am thinking this is probably legit.
I don't think anyone ever said SLCD, unless they were talking about the European version. Same as Nexus S.
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oh ok i thought i ready slcd default
..games will look fantastic with anti aliasing and at 720
hope verizon doesn't get first dips should stay unlocked gsm
Awesome specs but too big of a phone... I rather not wear hammer pants just to be able to fit this phone in my pocket. Very disappointed with how big they went.... I just knew Samsung would f*** this up considering they're the one who made the Samsung Galaxy Note.... just ridiculous.
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Awesome specs but too big of a phone...
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i think that's bare minimum screen size to fit such a high res before things become too small
i thought too big also but might not be that bad.
Plus the added more curvature to the phone i think this time the screen actually has curve to it
sucks for me im broke and no job ATM
wonder what this best is going to cost
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i think that's bar minimum screen size to fit such a high res
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I bet.... probably only way to have such a resolution but i'm still disappointed with how big the screen is.... I haven't met a person with a phone bigger than 4,3. Like i said just kind of disappointed.... =/ it's like waiting for Christmas hoping that you would get a new gaming console or game and later finding out all you got was a sweater... lol just me, BUT i'll keep an open mind and hope the sweater is a really good one.
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I bet.... probably only way to have such a resolution but i'm still disappointed with how big the screen is.... I haven't met a person with a phone bigger than 4,3. Like i said just kind of disappointed.... =/ it's like waiting for Christmas hoping that you would get a new gaming console or game and later finding out all you got was a sweater... lol just me, BUT i'll keep an open mind and hope the sweater is a really good one.
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yea it is quite big but who knows
the plus side is its first 720p samoled plus, definitely will look sweet
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yea it is quite big but who knows plus side is its 720p samoled plus will look sweet
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I guess... but with only a 1,750mAh battery, can it really withstand that screen size alongside the display? and actually be able to go a full day with it? I'm like 80% sure i'll be sticking with my Nexus S and hopefully it's single core processor can withstand ICS.
If you think phone is too big don't blame Samsung, blame Google.
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I guess... but with only a 1,750mAh battery, can it really withstand that screen size alongside the display? and actually be able to go a full day with it? I'm like 80% sure i'll be sticking with my Nexus S and hopefully it's single core processor can withstand ICS.
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true but the exynos is cortex a9 supposedly better power consumption compared to A8 and from what i read GS2 has great battery life but again this is a pretty big step up in spec hopefully Samsung will work their magic
It doesn't look much bigger from nexus s...
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It doesn't look much bigger from nexus s...
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exactly! they did away with the 'physical' softkey buttons, and used that space up for the screen. So, the overall phone size in our hands shouldnt be too much bigger than our NexS...
i'm drooling already
it really awkwardly looks allot like a nexus s. and he doesnt show the back and sides of the device.
so im thinking.BS!
its a nexus S with a ICS rom on it or custom rom.
even though. i want it! it looks damn nice!
Love it. Really looking forward to Google rolling ICS out to the Nexus S (given that I probably won't be picking up the Prime for quite some time).
Looks a lot better then ICS on nexus S last time.
Yeah those custom roms are amazing nowadays. They can actually move the front facing camera now ....
i hope it's not exclusive to verizon. i could never afford verizon or att.
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I just HATE on screen keys... it is such a waste of display space.
The same issue as with honeycomb tablets... not only they're widescreen.. but also the status bar must be always present..
this just SUCKS. :/

How is this phone?

So I'm getting a new phone, and I've been looking around at tmobile phones, and this phone seems pretty amazing. Price isn't bad, either. I'm coming from a Cliq 2, which had very little dev support, and this seems like its got tons. However, after reading a little on this forum, it seems like some members don't like this phone.
Now, I'm not looking for a top of the line smart phone, although the HTC Amaze has crossed my mind, but this phone seems to have tons of good things going for it, with its cameras, display, and processor.
So, would any of you recommend this phone? Or should I look at other choices?
Thanks!
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Stock ROM is junk, I had reboots, and wifi would connect, but won't actually work.
Good news is, it's super easy to flash a new ROM, I use Weapon, and it's perfect.
So with the new ROM, you get a decent display, clear call quality, fast, loud speakerphone, and good batt. life.
So if the price is right, I'd buy it.
There is absolutely no reason to buy this phone today. Things like the Samsung Galaxy S2, the Galaxy Nexus, and whatever it is HTC is pushing these days (I don't keep up with Sense phones) are most assuredly going to be better. The G2X was outstanding in its day, but that day has past.
To be more specific, the 1 Ghz processor is underpowered, 1.2 and 1.5 are the norm now. RAM is even worse; the 512 of the G2X is pitiful compared to the gigabyte that is standard on newer devices. Tegra 2 is still a very good GPU, but with the weaknesses of CPU and RAM it's just not worth it.
As far as camera and display, both are unremarkable. The display is LCD instead of the LED that phones normally have; this results in duller colors and blacks that aren't very dark. However, the screen is perfectly visible in any level of daylight, so make of that what you will. I've never ran any tests, but the camera strikes me as average. Nothing particularly special about it.
As far as problems go, while this phone was riddled with them on release pretty much all of them have been fixed by either LG or the devs. Dev support, by the way, is superb. Nothing lacking on that front.
I say you already made your mind up on getting the g2x if its features are already pulling you in. No matter how many ppl say yes or no believe what you want out of the phone first. I love my g2x even with minimal screen bleed and occasional reboot its the best phone I've had yet.
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Haha alright! Thanks!
Oh, I'll be ready for anything to flash ROMs, the Cliq2 wasn't the easiest phone to do so on. But alright, that's good to hear. From what I've seen this phone has CM7, MIUI, and a bunch of other ROMs, like the one you said. That gets me excited, but I won't be looking forward to telling my girlfriend what I'm doing haha.
Yeah, it'll be $100 for the upgrade, so I think it'll be worth it
If you're worried about cost, the G2X is definitely worth it.
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If you're worried about cost, the G2X is definitely worth it.
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Right, the only thing that's stopping me is the price gap between this phone and other phones. Every time I look at the Amaze though, it looks better and better. If only I had $229 to spare. College sucks haha. Same goes for the SGSII
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Right, the only thing that's stopping me is the price gap between this phone and other phones. Every time I look at the Amaze though, it looks better and better. If only I had $229 to spare. College sucks haha. Same goes for the SGSII
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I would get the amaze.
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I agree, that if cost is not an issue, there are much better phones to be had. However, at the price point T-Mobile is selling the G2X right now, it's impossible to beat with a phone that has as many features.
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I agree, that if cost is not an issue, there are much better phones to be had. However, at the price point T-Mobile is selling the G2X right now, it's impossible to beat with a phone that has as many features.
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Yeah, I'm trying to figure out a way to afford one of those phones. But if I can't I'll go with this phone.
I have read about issues with the 4G connectivity, for this phone, is this still an issue?
Also, how is the radio in this phone? Cause in the Cliq2 it was awful, I wouldn't get signal in places where my brother would get full signal on his G2
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I would get the amaze.
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Amaze is cool but the G2x is the best value for a high-end smartphone on any carrier. I hear people constantly complaining about 1Ghz processors instead of 1.2Ghz or 1.5Ghz. This is baseless; it all comes down to performance. Not as if benchmarks are any better of an indication, but overclocked at 1.55Ghz, I get 5000+. Absolutely killer. Over 100 FPS in Quadrant.
Also, IPS display may have some light bleed (mine has ZERO) but the viewing angle and brightness are superb. It's no SAMOLED but still, looks beautiful. A slew of awesome ROMs coupled with outstanding build quality. It's a fantastic device.
The only thing keeping me from recommending this 100%: LG support is absolutely garbage. Be prepared for little attention for your baby G2x if you get one. LG flatout denies many issues and fails to provide support for consumers and developers.
I've also owned a Sensation, MT4G Slide, and MT4G (most recently) and the G2x is hands down the boss. I say get it. Or buy mine so I can get a G-Slate.
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ericalanMICHAEL said:
Amaze is cool but the G2x is the best value for a high-end smartphone on any carrier. I hear people constantly complaining about 1Ghz processors instead of 1.2Ghz or 1.5Ghz. This is baseless; it all comes down to performance. Not as if benchmarks are any better of an indication, but overclocked at 1.55Ghz, I get 5000+. Absolutely killer. Over 100 FPS in Quadrant.
Also, IPS display may have some light bleed (mine has ZERO) but the viewing angle and brightness are superb. It's no SAMOLED but still, looks beautiful. A slew of awesome ROMs coupled with outstanding build quality. It's a fantastic device.
The only thing keeping me from recommending this 100%: LG support is absolutely garbage. Be prepared for little attention for your baby G2x if you get one. LG flatout denies many issues and fails to provide support for consumers and developers.
I've also owned a Sensation, MT4G Slide, and MT4G (most recently) and the G2x is hands down the boss. I say get it. Or buy mine so I can get a G-Slate.
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Yeah, from what I've read processor speed won't make too much of a difference with overclocking capabilities.
I think I've officially been sold on this phone, especially for this price and from what everyone is saying!
Another vote for "good value for the price" if price is a major consideration. If you're going to be flashing ROMs, I'm almost certain you can find something stable that will work properly for your phone. Enjoy!
The g2x is a great phone for the money right now. It performs as well as just about any other phone right now and has a ton of great features. It's no longer top dog, but it's not really surpassed by any other phone by a significant amount.
Plus they're just about free at target with 2yr upgrade right now. Can't beat that.
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The only thing I'd watch out with the Amaze is its battery life. From the reviews, it sounded pretty bad. The Galaxy SII would be a better choice, but I hate how the AMOLED screen looks (It's bright, vibrant, but has a strong color shift). G2x's color is more comfortable to my eyes (pure personal preference here).
For the price, g2x is great
Alright, I'll be sure to keep that in mind. I think I'll be getting this phone though, you all have made it seem great haha.
But how is the radio in this phone? Because like I said earlier, my brother has a G2 and would get full bars in places where I would have no service
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The only thing I'd watch out with the Amaze is its battery life. From the reviews, it sounded pretty bad. The Galaxy SII would be a better choice, but I hate how the AMOLED screen looks (It's bright, vibrant, but has a strong color shift). G2x's color is more comfortable to my eyes (pure personal preference here).
For the price, g2x is great
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My fiance has the Amaze, and while she seems to love it, she HATES the battery life. It's pretty abysmal. She's a very light user and she's charging it every day, minimum, even when it's just sitting on the counter not being used. If she does decide to use it the battery life dips down to 2-6 hours at absolute best even with 2G/low brightness/etc etc. It's a very battery hungry phone and there is absolutely no way to get S-OFF on it atm, which for me is a complete turn off for an HTC device.
Also, her phone loses signal in a lot more places than I do.
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Alright, I'll be sure to keep that in mind. I think I'll be getting this phone though, you all have made it seem great haha.
But how is the radio in this phone? Because like I said earlier, my brother has a G2 and would get full bars in places where I would have no service
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With my Sensation, I'd get one bar service and sometimes 3G at my house; I get three bars + 3G minimum with this one. Much better.
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With my Sensation, I'd get one bar service and sometimes 3G at my house; I get three bars + 3G minimum with this one. Much better.
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Awesome! Next week then, I should be joining this community
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I'll throw my opinion out there. For a T-Mobile phone (not counting the $750 GSM galaxy nexus, only phones you can get through T-Mobile) this phone might take a back seat to the amaze (I have no experience with that one, so couldn't say). But I've had both the sensation and sgs2 and g2x beats them both performance wise. Sgs2 did have the best battery life though.
Of course there's also the size issue, I really don't like my phone being bigger than a 4inch, yet it seems like all the manufacturers are forgetting about people like me, I mean come on if I wanted a tablet I'd buy a tablet!
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Upgrading, and looking for opinions

So as it is obvious i am on the charge right now but have an opportunity to upgrade. My initial thought was to go for the nexus! i mean an aosp experience android 4.0 it makes sense. But then i found another phone i think rivals the nexus. The rezound has a great community following, and multiple 4.0 ports. Some major differences are 1.2 GHZ dual core vs. 1.5 Snap dragon. Screen size(technically speaking) and a few different things like screen resolution and such but i'm wondering what other people thought.
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So as it is obvious i am on the charge right now but have an opportunity to upgrade. My initial thought was to go for the nexus! i mean an aosp experience android 4.0 it makes sense. But then i found another phone i think rivals the nexus. The rezound has a great community following, and multiple 4.0 ports. Some major differences are 1.2 GHZ dual core vs. 1.5 Snap dragon. Screen size(technically speaking) and a few different things like screen resolution and such but i'm wondering what other people thought.
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having a Nexus and having played with a Rezound I would go with the GN, it beats the Rezound in pretty much every category but the screen where both are pretty nice (GN a bit better though)... however they are both solid choices and if you like the size of the Rezound or the Beats or Sense then go with that, I'd try both of them out for a day or two if I was you and not get one based only off of recommendations
if you have any specific questions about the Nexus I'll answer
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I agree that they are both nice phones.
Part of it comes down to the display if you are display whore like me.
Most people probably wouldn't notice or care about pentile, but I personally feel that the pentile annoys me as much or even more than the fact that the Rezound has an LCD display.
I would check into enhancements by Supercurio so see what he has brought to the table for display mods/tweaks. Check into Voodoo Display Tuning.
In any case, don't get one without actually trying them out.
Personally, I'll wait for the GS3. If Verizon gets the GS3 AND doesn't screw it all up, I think it will be worth the wait.
Also, don't forget to look at the LG Spectrum.
If it were me i would go with a maxx. The phone is good enough for me and that battery would last so long. Of course i wouldn't really need a custom kernel on that (i only use one on the charge for ext4 and uv, which i wouldn't need on he razr.
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I agree that they are both nice phones.
Part of it comes down to the display if you are display whore like me.
Most people probably wouldn't notice or care about pentile, but I personally feel that the pentile annoys me as much or even more than the fact that the Rezound has an LCD display.
I would check into enhancements by Supercurio so see what he has brought to the table for display mods/tweaks. Check into Voodoo Display Tuning.
In any case, don't get one without actually trying them out.
Personally, I'll wait for the GS3. If Verizon gets the GS3 AND doesn't screw it all up, I think it will be worth the wait.
Also, don't forget to look at the LG Spectrum.
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LOL LG
no in all seriousness though the Spectrum would be a good deal as a beginning 4G phone or for someone who's not into rooting/roms... the radios are solid, its very snappy, screen is nice and its a nice size the only complaint would be the UI... its very touchwizzy and bogs the phone down occasionally but otherwise its not a bad choice either (oh except for LG's OS upgrade timing as well, like Samsung in that regard but if that doesn't matter than disregard)
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i figure the nexus is probably what i would get a lot of opinions but i just dont know that i am ready to go with the 299 i know very well that which i got it would be rooted and rommed in a few days so whether or not it is sense is of no purpose. i've used both somewhat but its not the same when they aren't mine ya know? Honestly the biggest draw of the nexus is that it is AOSP and will continue to be ya know?
The Spectrum has a fantastic screen, but an awful custom UI, bad battery life, and a mediocre build. The Rezound isn't bad at all (biggest downside is that it's super chunky), and despite the sub-par screen the RAZR Maxx is actually quite nice, but if you're getting a phone now you'd ultimately being doing yourself a disservice getting anything other than the Nexus.
Sure, the phones may all seem at least somewhat competitive right now, but you need to think about the future, especially if you're on a 2-year upgrade cycle like most people. No phone, from any company, will get official updates as quickly -- and more importantly, for as long -- as a Nexus device.
Me, I'm waiting to see what gets announced at MWC at the end of this month, because the quad-core Tegra 3 devices we know are coming up will be way more future-proof than the current crop of dual-cores. The question is just when Verizon will get one.
IMO u should wait for the GS3. Thats what Im doing. I think that nexus, rezound, and maxx all have big downsides IMO that hopefully GS3 wont.
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IMO u should wait for the GS3. Thats what Im doing. I think that nexus, rezound, and maxx all have big downsides IMO that hopefully GS3 wont.
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I'm sure even the SGS3 will have one or a few downsides. No phone is perfect.
That being said, I don't necessarily see the point in waiting for it to come to Verizon considering the SGS2 didn't.
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People keep talking about quad core, I just wonder what are you going to do with quadcore. Dualcore is plenty of power for a phone. 99% of the apps not even support dual core and it will take awhile to get there, the only thing I see with quad core is you're going to pay extra cash for something just make you feel good, but no functional for anything!
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People keep talking about quad core, I just wonder what are you going to do with quadcore. Dualcore is plenty of power for a phone. 99% of the apps not even support dual core and it will take awhile to get there, the only thing I see with quad core is you're going to pay extra cash for something just make you feel good, but no functional for anything!
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something to do with battery life, quad cores run more efficiently... idling on 2 cores for all but the most power hungry apps or something like that
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something to do with battery life, quad cores run more efficiently... idling on 2 cores for all but the most power hungry apps or something like that
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This all speculation, my PC with more core, I need more cooling power! Law of physic more power, more heat. I think they are going to make more capacity(mah) for the same given battery size.
I vote for razr. By far the most polished software experience, stock for stock, and screen was good enough IMO to jump the Samsung ship.
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I vote for razr. By far the most polished software experience, stock for stock, and screen was good enough IMO to jump the Samsung ship.
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lol really though while I have to say that the razr is nice for those who don't want to root, battery situation, locked bootloader and the possibility of BLUR SANDWICH will steer most others away...
pic related, my face when samsungs touchjizz UI over ICS
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I went from the Charge to the Bionic, then to the Rezound. Two add-a-lines later and ~$650 in ETF's hanging over my head and I bought another Charge - I missed it too much. I was tempted by the Nexus, but the lack of removable storage kills it for me...I want the option of taking more than 30gb of stuff with me.
Don't put too much stock in the idea that a dual-core processor gives you better battery life, or noticeably more speed. Neither the Bionic or the Rezound were faster than the Charge to any real noteworthy degree, and battery life, while marginally better on the Bionic, was still poor overall. The pen-tile screen on the Bionic stunk, and while the Rezound's screen is very smooth from dead center, colors look pale and the viewing angles are terrible. Nothing beats the SAMOLED+ on the Charge. The "Beats Audio" on the Rezound is just a built-in preset EQ curve, easily reproduced on any other phone. Strictly in terms of sound quality with good headphones the Charge is in a different league - no hiss, no whines, cleaner, better, louder sound. Both the Bionic and the Rezound have the high pitched whine/interference, although not as bad on the Rezound.
Right now on Verizon there's no phone i'd rather have...when I took my new one out of the box it was like a huge feeling of relief. I won't be forsaking it again until something clearly, substantially better comes along.
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This all speculation, my PC with more core, I need more cooling power! Law of physic more power, more heat. I think they are going to make more capacity(mah) for the same given battery size.
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You're assuming that all the cores in a mobile device are activated all the time, which is completely wrong. It's not speculation, it's been measured: Tegra 3 uses almost 60 percent less power than Tegra 2 in general because whenever it's in standby or other low-intensity modes it switches on a fifth low-power companion core and switches off the primary cores. Then, if you do need extra power, it dynamically kicks in the other cores as needed, whether that means activating a single core, two cores, or all four.
And as for the speed difference... even on the fastest dual-core devices, Android still lags every now and then. Try using the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and then the Transformer Prime -- there is a definite difference in speed and animation smoothness using the same OS. Everything is faster on a quad-core device.
Isn't ICS also optimized for multi-core devices? If so, the dual core on GN and quad on Transformer Prime should be much better than say Bionic for example.
I think the gnex is worth it, partly because it will be supported by samsung/google for 18 months. Seeing as most of us are locked into two year contracts, it also eliminates the need to buy a new phone in 6 months when the current new phones arent really supported
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You're assuming that all the cores in a mobile device are activated all the time, which is completely wrong. It's not speculation, it's been measured: Tegra 3 uses almost 60 percent less power than Tegra 2 in general because whenever it's in standby or other low-intensity modes it switches on a fifth low-power companion core and switches off the primary cores. Then, if you do need extra power, it dynamically kicks in the other cores as needed, whether that means activating a single core, two cores, or all four.
And as for the speed difference... even on the fastest dual-core devices, Android still lags every now and then. Try using the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and then the Transformer Prime -- there is a definite difference in speed and animation smoothness using the same OS. Everything is faster on a quad-core device.
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Take a look at this article. Basically they said that the power drain is from screen size, ram and LTE4G. Quadcore may only consume a little bit more battery power (but NOT saving power). They definitely need bigger battery just like I predicted. In theory, dual core should save power better than single core (same as your theory, one sleep, one working), but that's not the case. I found that when you use your phone, they all kick in for speed and smoothness whick translated into more power consumption.
http://www.tested.com/news/will-the-quad-core-arm-revolution-suck-your-smartphone-battery-dry/3131/

Is it a good phone?

Ok, so I pretty much just bought myself a Honor 8 but I can still return it as I haven't opened the packaging.
So generally it looked great in the store and everything and I just thought the software was a little weird (Coming from someone who used Touchwiz and Cyanogenmod before)
When I tried the Camera in the store it was looking great! And honestly I just want you to tell me a little bit about your own experience with the phone.
I got the phone for like 30% of normal price which means I got it for ~325$ so I got it really cheap!
So what about your own experience with the phone? Is it any good? (Coming from a Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini)
And also what about size?
Ok, so I pretty much just bought myself a Honor 8 but I can still return it as I haven't opened the packaging.
So generally it looked great in the store and everything and I just thought the software was a little weird (Coming from someone who used Touchwiz and Cyanogenmod before)
When I tried the Camera in the store it was looking great! And honestly I just want you to tell me a little bit about your own experience with the phone.
I got the phone for like 30% of normal price which means I got it for ~325$ so I got it really cheap!
So what about your own experience with the phone? Is it any good? (Coming from a Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini)
And also what about size?
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Why don't you read all the threads that are available... tons of people's opinion located throughout this forum
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I came from a Galaxy S7 Snapdragon 820 variant and I have to say that overall the Honor 8 is a much better phone. Despite being an iOS-esque skin the OS runs very smooth for me and battery life is pretty good. It has a lot of practical features that don't really overwhelm the user in my opinion. Although it's CPU/GPU are technically slower than the S7's, it still has an admirable amount of performance to it. I love the dual camera, even though some may say it isn't the best. The only major thing I can think of that is wrong with this phone is that it has a poor speaker, but I typically use headphones or Bluetooth anyways.
You also can't deny that it is a beautiful crafted phone on the exterior. I love the rear glass. My only recommendation is get a clear case lol.
I agree the poll is kinda useless....you either like it or not. It all depends on personal preference
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I came from a Galaxy S7 Snapdragon 820 variant and I have to say that overall the Honor 8 is a much better phone. Despite being an iOS-esque skin the OS runs very smooth for me and battery life is pretty good. It has a lot of practical features that don't really overwhelm the user in my opinion. Although it's CPU/GPU are technically slower than the S7's, it still has an admirable amount of performance to it. I love the dual camera, even though some may say it isn't the best. The only major thing I can think of that is wrong with this phone is that it has a poor speaker, but I typically use headphones or Bluetooth anyways.
You also can't deny that it is a beautiful crafted phone on the exterior. I love the rear glass. My only recommendation is get a clear case lol.
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Well, I just found out something It isn't Amoled so it might be really bad
I got the phone for like 30% of normal price which means I got it for ~325$ so I got it really cheap!
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Mine has not arrived yet, but you can return yours and get one new for $280 from amazon (USA).
Well, I just found out something It isn't Amoled so it might be really bad
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Fast forward to the 3:55 mark
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Fast forward to the 3:55 mark https://youtu.be/NGGJoT221oY
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Well still it is a LCD which means that black won't really be black and really I can't use battery saving apps such as PixOff (Which makes some Pixels black)
Thinking of returning the phone
OK so return it, you should've done your own research before purchasing the phone...another useless thread
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Well, I just found out something It isn't Amoled so it might be really bad
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I'm not much of a fan of AMOLED. The colors seem over saturated in my opinion and it's already been shown that AMOLED doesn't affect battery life all that significantly. Despite not having AMOLED, this phone does get pretty good battery life from the 3000 mah.
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I'm not much of a fan of AMOLED. The colors seem over saturated in my opinion and it's already been shown that AMOLED doesn't affect battery life all that significantly.
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Well, my current phone (The Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini) has Amoled and I love it also all of my previous phones have had Amoled :/
Well, my current phone (The Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini) has Amoled and I love it also all of my previous phones have had Amoled :/
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Well, for sub $400 this phone is a beast for what you get. But if you really want Amoled that badly then I guess return it lol. Just keep in mind that every phone has a trade off on something.
Well, my current phone (The Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini) has Amoled and I love it also all of my previous phones have had Amoled :/
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Yeah, I wish it had amoled as I have a galaxy s3.
On the bright side, it outperforms the s7 in speed.
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Yeah, I wish it had amoled as I have a galaxy s3.
On the bright side, it outperforms the s7 in speed.
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Not to mention the Kirin 950 is much more efficient than the Snapdragon and Exynos.
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Not to mention the Kirin 950 is much more efficient than the Snapdragon and Exynos.
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Yes, because of it's effeciency sometimes I get 7-8h SOT which is amazing
If you like amoled so much you can stick to samsung phones...S7 is around 500-550 euros now even cheaper with data plans...
Ok, Nevermind I have decided to try it out anyways
i simply love this phone!
Ok, Nevermind I have decided to try it out anyways
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You won't be disappointed
I honestly don't understand why I thought it would be bad (Probably because I'm not used to Huawei phones in general) but so far it has been super responsive and handles everything I throw at it, the camera is very good in good light (compared to my old phone) but in darker images it is a little bit grainy
But still I love this phone, getting a case in a few days

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