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I haven't flashed to any Tom's yet, but this seems to be the most popular. Why is that? I looked at the change log and I don't understand what I would be gaining I guess.
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same too me, I tried it over 3.1, what I experienced:
- browser little bit slower
- more SOD
- nothing real extra feature
I have to use a custom rom for a couple of reasons:
1) My stock rom is the Chinese verison, which means no google apps or google sync. Without google, it's just not android.
2) I need the Chinese input methods. I would normally switch to the USA stock rom, but it doesn't have Chinese input. Prime does/did, Chinese handwriting input is MIA, but I'll sure it will be taken care of.
I choose to use a custom rom for these reasons:
3) I don't like excess crap on my computer. I can modify a custom rom before I install it, mostly just removing apps that I will never use.
4) Root! I love freedom on my computer. Root lets me do things. All kinds of neat things: block ads, increase speed on sd card, delete/modify system apps and directories, and lots more. Look into it, it is fun.
5) Overclock. Prime doesn't have it, but you can add a kernal that does. I currently don't overclock, but as the Tegra 2 ages, i will overclock it. I'm specifically waiting for a rom with a high GPU overclock. There is one out there that currently does have a minor GPU overclock.
6) Clockwork Recovery. Backup, restore, switch roms, clear cache and more.
Why I choose Prime:
7) Dock battery meter in the taskbar.
8) Reboot/recovery options for power button.
After looking through the current selection of roms available, I choose Prime. But I keep my eye on revolver and Clemsyn.
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I haven't flashed to any Tom's yet, but this seems to be the most popular. Why is that? I looked at the change log and I don't understand what I would be gaining I guess.
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How do you not? OP clearly states that there are optimizations made to increase load times etc etc.
No, op states "better user experience" which is very vague. Also I'm not having any slow load times, everything is pretty zippy.
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I haven't flashed to any Tom's yet, but this seems to be the most popular. Why is that? I looked at the change log and I don't understand what I would be gaining I guess.
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Last time I flashed a Tom he punched me in the face...
One reason I haven't seen mentioned would also be themes, but it is still early in the game, there are few options. Custom Roms are generally just optimized better, though the Transformer doesn't have nearly the bloat some Android devices have making them almost essential...
Honestly once you learn, it is such an easy process that flashing different roms/kernels and trying them is the only real way to know what is best for you and your usage.
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No, op states "better user experience" which is very vague. Also I'm not having any slow load times, everything is pretty zippy.
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Then why are you worrying about ROMs? It's obvious you want some of that Baconcomb so just get it already.
Honestly, I don't know why people ever need to "beg" you to try something. If you're happy with what you got already, then be happy.
"If it isn't broken, don't fix it"
If you're curious, then just do it... because all in honesty. One person's opinion is only a opinion. The only way you're going to know if it's worth it is from YOUR personal experience. I can personally say that, PRIME 1.6 and root is good and its worth it.
If you don't want to take my word for it, then don't. I'm not going to beg you to do it.
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Then why are you worrying about ROMs? It's obvious you want some of that Baconcomb so just get it already.
Honestly, I don't know why people ever need to "beg" you to try something. If you're happy with what you got already, then be happy.
"If it isn't broken, don't fix it"
If you're curious, then just do it... because all in honesty. One person's opinion is only a opinion. The only way you're going to know if it's worth it is from YOUR personal experience. I can personally say that, PRIME 1.6 and root is good and its worth it.
If you don't want to take my word for it, then don't. I'm not going to beg you to do it.
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The reason im asking is so i dont miss out on anything and obviously im looking for empiracle data to help me understand any performance benefits.
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Then why are you worrying about ROMs? It's obvious you want some of that Baconcomb so just get it already.
Honestly, I don't know why people ever need to "beg" you to try something. If you're happy with what you got already, then be happy.
"If it isn't broken, don't fix it"
If you're curious, then just do it... because all in honesty. One person's opinion is only a opinion. The only way you're going to know if it's worth it is from YOUR personal experience. I can personally say that, PRIME 1.6 and root is good and its worth it.
If you don't want to take my word for it, then don't. I'm not going to beg you to do it.
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Wow...
He asked what was the difference between stock and Prime, and you went off in another direction. He wasn't asking to be "begged" into using Prime nor asking for others to convince him into using Prime at all.
Anyways, I know Prime has a few optimizations, but I don't know if it brings any substantial changes. There's a link to download the power/recovery mod, so I suppose it could be applied to any ROM including rooted stock.
One reason I would like to root my tf101 is to be able to use a USB dongle. But I am waiting for 3.2 to come out before since I just got my tf101.
The stock version is pretty good actually. No major complaints so far.
I hav ebeen using Prime for a while but ASUS stock version is definitely quite good. Even more so for lack of garbageware that so plagues the mobile phones...
Yea I guess I'm in the same camp. I haven't seen a compelling reason to move to a different ROM versus rooted stock. There are too many posts that seem to lead users to believe that a different ROM is the same as root. Remember you can root the stock ROM. The OP is asking what user experience enhancements make Prime (or any other ROM) compelling.
If you read changelog second post it will tell you exactly what's new in the ROM. Many changes are only useful for experienced linux users, but many others are useful for everyone. The nice thing about roms is that most of the things and tweaks are already done for you. If you don't need/care about those changes then there is no point for you to reflash.
Which BXX mod did you get ?
I'm curious because I'm thinking of picking up one of these today ( the guy at Orifice Depot tried to get me to buy an Iconia, but that thing doesn't have anywhere near the support the TF is getting...)....?
Manufacturer's (ASUS included) have to be very careful about their ROM releases so they are thoroughly tested and ready to release to the general public. Consequently they are slower to release updates (i.e. NVidia updates, etc.). Custom ROMs generally consolidate the best and latest releases from various manufacturer's into the most cuttest edge versions you can possibly be running. As you'll notice this can also mean more lock-ups and weird issues since you are getting just-available changes. So if you prefer max stability, stick with the manufacturer's updates. For many of us part of the fun of owning an Android tablet is the rapid pace that custom ROMs are put out and the interesting/quirky things they bring us.
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I'm curious because I'm thinking of picking up one of these today ( the guy at Orifice Depot tried to get me to buy an Iconia, but that thing doesn't have anywhere near the support the TF is getting...)....?
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I got a B60 TF and a B60 dock from my local OD this past weekend (Denver, CO).
Prime Vs Stock
Reason why I flashed the Prime Rom. With Prime and a netflix patch I'm able to stream netflix movie. Also now Adhoc connections work. I can Wifi tehther my TF101 with my Driod using the adhoc connection. I can now easily reboot into recovery prior to this going into recovery was a bit tricky. This was not possible even with HC 3.2. Also I don't have to worry about losing root becuase of an OTA update.
I am actually a flashaholic when it comes to flashing roms on my phone. But so far, I haven't come across any compelling reasons to flash custom roms on my transformer. The need to flash roms on phones offer benefits that are non existant on a tablet. For instance, one major reason to flash custom roms on phones is to enable free wifi tethering, which obviously does not apply here. Another reason, as stated above is to remove bloatware. The transformer doesn't really have that. And yet another reason is to be able to update to the latest Android version before the official release. Correct me if i'm wrong but when I looked, the 3.2 update came out officially before any transformer custom roms had it. There are a couple more minor customizations options that I'm not seeing yet being offered by the transformer roms. I am fully aware of the speed enhancements and optimizations that custom roms offer, but considering the custom roms for the transformer are still relatively new (no disrespect or discredit to the devs for their hard work), and considering that even still now, the rooting and flashing methods keep getting outdated and changed, it's too early in this ballgame for me to flash.
I've been lurking the forums here now for a month and finally pulled the trigger, my TF get's here monday.
I have yet to see any reason to flash a custom rom or even root at this point. I'll be rooting it just to say it's rooted and just for a couple of root only programs I have. The custom roms don't really bring anything to the table that this tablet doesn't have. it has the newest version of android with all the bells and whistles. I'm not going to be overclocking. I understand netflix is big for some people, but, from what I have read flashing the fix breaks some video playback. I'm ok to wait for the official netflix patch. A 32gb MicroSD and the 16gb on board space is plenty to store movies on for travel etc. I also have a server I run at home that will stream my entire movie,. TV, and music collections directly to me.
Having the best of the best and the most up to date version of android does have it's perks
I have been running PRIME2.11 pretty much since i rooted when razorclaw was released,i really really have liked it way beyond the stock rom and would really be fine with it, if i couldnt change it ever again Roach has done an outstanding job!
My first question is...Does anyone know if Prime is hardware rendered or not (i have searched including reading close to every post in the prime dev thread) I notice all the other ROMS i could find it mentioned in the rom description, and from my understanding stock HC uses software rendering which many say is the reason for the performance lag.
next question is does anyone think it helps from their experience.
Next ?, Roach is busy with bigger and better things i hear so i dnt htink hes going to update PRIME unless its imperative. The other ROMS have made the recent updates comforming to the recent asus update....As much as i love PRIME im wondering if i should check out REVOLVER or KRAKED is it worth risking a problem flashing my b80 with no nvflash to falll back on or wait for ICS.....(realistically id like to try em all and change all the time cuz i get bored easy im just worried that all it takes is one problem and i have a 500 dollar paperweight.
?....for those who have tried several of the roms whats your input on choice, if i were going to go to one rom from PRIME to wait for ics ,
And finally Provided i follow the proper steps flashing whatever, and i check hashes to verify downloads and im consistent and careful, is there anymore chances of a bricked device with b80 and beyond or is it just that if it does have problems theres no failsafe with NVFLASH. Is there any evidence to point that newer devices have had problems more frequently when flashing
thank s in advanced and i have exhaustively searched for information pertaining to these questions just wasnt satisfied with what i found
Can't help you with the rendering or multi ROM questions, but I can respond to if Prime 2.1.1 enhances my experience, and yes it does.
I spent a lot of time trying to solve my corporate VPN issue (IPSEC with group ID and password). Prime was the only ROM I could successfully utilize, with the VPNC widget.
Now when I travel, I only carry my Transformer, and use VM through VPN to access my corporate desktop. Never need to worry about syncing or losing files.
I realize this posting is going to be asking a lot of questions but I hope the thread will be helpful to everyone suffering with the awful ICS update series on the ASUS TF101. So please: if you have specific knowledge and experience, think of the large community of suffering TF101 owners and help them remedy the problem. Because it is apparent that ASUS has abandoned us.
BACKGROUND
I have a TF101 and I am disgusted with how badly ASUS has handled the development/testing/rollout of ICS. There's no point in being fast to market if you're going to put out crap that destabilizes your hardware!
- If I only had the easy choice of keeping the latest OTA (at the moment .27) or returning to Honeycomb, I would do the latter. It didn't crash. And it responded crisply to touches. But part of ASUS idiocy is not providing a backwards migration path even though they have ample evidence that they have a shoddy ICS ROM.
I realize, before asking, that there are a lot of combinations and permutations to what you folks might recommend. But let me help you to understand what I am seeking at the end of the migration:
First off about me: I have prior experience rooting and replacing ROM's. (Nexus One now runs CM 7.1. Samsung Galaxy Tab 7" GT-P1000 now running CM9.) But I would not describe myself as an experienced or confident person-- I suppose it would help if all Android devices used the same tools and procedures for performing the migration.
Bottom Line: I am capable of following instructions and I am comfortable with CWM flashing once I have a rooted device with CWM.
My criteria:
Stability:
I want highest possible stability- I am realistic; I realize that the ASUS TF101 is already cursed. But I would settle for one crash every couple of days.
Smooth performance:
Under .27 stock, there is a ridiculously slow response to touch events. My single core first generation Samsung 7" performs faster!
Ungimmicky:
I don't need flashy special features built into the ROM. I'd be happy with something that stays reasonably close to the vanilla Android ICS experience.
(If it helps, I am fairly pleased with the CM9 implementation on my ancient Samsung 7".)
What I Use TF101 For:
- Slingplayer Mobile
- Video files (.avi, .mp4, .mpg, .flv, .mkv)
- Reading: PressReader, Pulse, Flipboard
- Occasionally using an Office-type suite and/or Google Drive docs
What I Don't Want or Need
- Games
- ASUS "value added" bloatware apps
Questions:
- What are the important differences between the various CM9 implementations?
I see there are at least two CM9 implementations for the TF101. (Which may or may not be the same as the one posted at the CyanogenMod site:
http://get.cm/?device=tf101&type=stable
- I have done some reading about Revolver and Overcome. But I am not sure whether these are a better choice than CM9. Are they more reliable because they are based on the stock ROM?
(Remember that I don't want or need any ASUS apps.)
- So let's start with the important question: based on my needs and desire for a quick move to a rooted, stable, ICS TF101, which ROM should I use?
- Which kernel and version number should I flash to accompany that particular ROM?
- Is there a guide (either here on XDA or elsewhere) that will take me from stock, unrooted ICS .27 to installing CWM?
- A bonus would be if it took me all the way to flashing the final ROM, but this is not essential
One last point: I already understand the idea that CWM would let me try out various ROMs. And I am comfortable doing that if I am not happy with my first choice.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
goattee said:
I realize this posting is going to be asking a lot of questions but I hope the thread will be helpful to everyone suffering with the awful ICS update series on the ASUS TF101. So please: if you have specific knowledge and experience, think of the large community of suffering TF101 owners and help them remedy the problem. Because it is apparent that ASUS has abandoned us.
BACKGROUND
I have a TF101 and I am disgusted with how badly ASUS has handled the development/testing/rollout of ICS. There's no point in being fast to market if you're going to put out crap that destabilizes your hardware!
- If I only had the easy choice of keeping the latest OTA (at the moment .27) or returning to Honeycomb, I would do the latter. It didn't crash. And it responded crisply to touches. But part of ASUS idiocy is not providing a backwards migration path even though they have ample evidence that they have a shoddy ICS ROM.
I realize, before asking, that there are a lot of combinations and permutations to what you folks might recommend. But let me help you to understand what I am seeking at the end of the migration:
First off about me: I have prior experience rooting and replacing ROM's. (Nexus One now runs CM 7.1. Samsung Galaxy Tab 7" GT-P1000 now running CM9.) But I would not describe myself as an experienced or confident person-- I suppose it would help if all Android devices used the same tools and procedures for performing the migration.
Bottom Line: I am capable of following instructions and I am comfortable with CWM flashing once I have a rooted device with CWM.
My criteria:
Stability:
I want highest possible stability- I am realistic; I realize that the ASUS TF101 is already cursed. But I would settle for one crash every couple of days.
Smooth performance:
Under .27 stock, there is a ridiculously slow response to touch events. My single core first generation Samsung 7" performs faster!
Ungimmicky:
I don't need flashy special features built into the ROM. I'd be happy with something that stays reasonably close to the vanilla Android ICS experience.
(If it helps, I am fairly pleased with the CM9 implementation on my ancient Samsung 7".)
What I Use TF101 For:
- Slingplayer Mobile
- Video files (.avi, .mp4, .mpg, .flv, .mkv)
- Reading: PressReader, Pulse, Flipboard
- Occasionally using an Office-type suite and/or Google Drive docs
What I Don't Want or Need
- Games
- ASUS "value added" bloatware apps
Questions:
- What are the important differences between the various CM9 implementations?
I see there are at least two CM9 implementations for the TF101. (Which may or may not be the same as the one posted at the CyanogenMod site:
http://get.cm/?device=tf101&type=stable
- I have done some reading about Revolver and Overcome. But I am not sure whether these are a better choice than CM9. Are they more reliable because they are based on the stock ROM?
(Remember that I don't want or need any ASUS apps.)
- So let's start with the important question: based on my needs and desire for a quick move to a rooted, stable, ICS TF101, which ROM should I use?
- Which kernel and version number should I flash to accompany that particular ROM?
- Is there a guide (either here on XDA or elsewhere) that will take me from stock, unrooted ICS .27 to installing CWM?
- A bonus would be if it took me all the way to flashing the final ROM, but this is not essential
One last point: I already understand the idea that CWM would let me try out various ROMs. And I am comfortable doing that if I am not happy with my first choice.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
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None of stock ROMs r stable r smooth and I hate them.. in my opinion rooting n custom is the way to go.... when I was on ICS, I preferred revolver ICS ROM but android revolution HD is also very smooth n stable... I have moved onto jelly bean but since its in alpha/nightly versions its up to you..
I prefer easy flash to root and install recovery, please choose twrp or rogue recovery as they r better than cwm in my opinion...
For revolver n revolution you don't need any custom kernel as both run on stock kernel...
PS: when you use easy flash follow instructions and install universal naked driver.... good luck
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I just hopped back to Megatron after tinkering with jelly bean rooms, it's still the best daily workhorse from I've tried on this thing.
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... when I was on ICS, I preferred revolver ICS ROM
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I rooted and flashed Revolver. So far I am relying on the original kernel The tablet is no longer hesitating. So far no random FCs of apps. The Gmail app in particular is not afraid to stay alive.
I am quite pleased!
Hey all,
Just got the Infinity Pad, and I love it!
Well, almost... I'm still going to root and flash the thing...
Anyway, I just want to ask what people's experience with the dock is. I know it has its own firmware, and I also know that there are changes in how things work once I plug it in. I don't want to lose this functionality , so I wanted to check first.
Are there any issues that pop up at all when flashing the tablet, or do all of the features work? I still want the second battery meter and the multi-touch capabilities on the trackpad, for example. Also, while I'm here, one more thing: Are there custom ROMs for the dock out there?
Mikey1969 said:
Hey all,
Just got the Infinity Pad, and I love it!
Well, almost... I'm still going to root and flash the thing...
Anyway, I just want to ask what people's experience with the dock is. I know it has its own firmware, and I also know that there are changes in how things work once I plug it in. I don't want to lose this functionality , so I wanted to check first.
Are there any issues that pop up at all when flashing the tablet, or do all of the features work? I still want the second battery meter and the multi-touch capabilities on the trackpad, for example. Also, while I'm here, one more thing: Are there custom ROMs for the dock out there?
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CleanRom will work with the dock as the stock. I am not sure of the other ROMs out there but I know 100% that Cromi does work with the dock. Whatever issues that pop up in Cromi can be reported to sbdags and he will do what he can. And I am not sure about the firmware for the dock. The firmware updates for the dock come with the ota Asus updates I believe.
Tylor
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Rom: CleanRom 3.4.4
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CleanRom will work with the dock as the stock. I am not sure of the other ROMs out there but I know 100% that Cromi does work with the dock. Whatever issues that pop up in Cromi can be reported to sbdags and he will do what he can. And I am not sure about the firmware for the dock. The firmware updates for the dock come with the ota Asus updates I believe.
Tylor
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I second that completely. In my case, I had the dock when I was at stock JB ROM and now after switching to the CROMI v3.4.4 the keydock experience simply is the same. All the keys are working, including the special keys like settings, screen brightness, volume, browser etc. Also the touch pad comes in handy, including the swiping and pinch to zoom.
What's not clear to me is the firmware thing. As far as I know the dock firmware is part of the stock ROM, like being a particular folder somewhere in the systems area. As such, I suspect it should be part of CROMI as well. What I don't know is what triggers an update process in the case there is new firmware.
All the same, I also don't know how all the other ROMs out there are working. With CROMI it does.
EDIT: Forgot to mention: (with CROMI) you will have the second battery meter, including the Asus widget.
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And I am not sure about the firmware for the dock. The firmware updates for the dock come with the ota Asus updates I believe.
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What's not clear to me is the firmware thing. As far as I know the dock firmware is part of the stock ROM, like being a particular folder somewhere in the systems area. As such, I suspect it should be part of CROMI as well. What I don't know is what triggers an update process in the case there is new firmware.
All the same, I also don't know how all the other ROMs out there are working. With CROMI it does.
EDIT: Forgot to mention: (with CROMI) you will have the second battery meter, including the Asus widget.
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Tylorw and FordPrefect have answered the questions regarding the functionality already, and I have nothing to add to their descrption: it simply works on CROMI. On other ROMs there are (sometimes many) issues -- in their beginnings, the shortcuts were not working at all, and with some of them we have seen this problem creep up every time a major update was issued. Also, certain ASUS-specific functionality, like the IPS/IPS+ toggle is not (and possibly will never be) available with non-stock-based ROMs.
mini-TL;DR: if you really vallue full dock functionality, stay with CROMI.
Regarding the dockfirmware updates: we've had a CleamROM update (so Scott's original CROM, not sbdags' CROMI) that included firmware updates for the camera and the touchpad. I have no idea where ASUS hides them -- I didn't bother looking that up -- but it just shows you could still receive updates to the (dock) firmware if you're going the stock-based custom ROM route...
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Tylorw and FordPrefect have answered the questions regarding the functionality already, and I have nothing to add to their descrption: it simply works on CROMI. On other ROMs there are (sometimes many) issues -- in their beginnings, the shortcuts were not working at all, and with some of them we have seen this problem creep up every time a major update was issued. Also, certain ASUS-specific functionality, like the IPS/IPS+ toggle is not (and possibly will never be) available with non-stock-based ROMs.
mini-TL;DR: if you really vallue full dock functionality, stay with CROMI.
Regarding the dockfirmware updates: we've had a CleamROM update (so Scott's original CROM, not sbdags' CROMI) that included firmware updates for the camera and the touchpad. I have no idea where ASUS hides them -- I didn't bother looking that up -- but it just shows you could still receive updates to the (dock) firmware if you're going the stock-based custom ROM route...
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Thanks guys for your help, I'm glad I asked, since you listed some issues with other ROMs. I'll play around with this thing this weekend, and try out CROMI .
Once again, I appreciate the help. I'm not always sure anymore, message boards used to be the safe place for the most noob question, nowadays, it's hit and miss...
Flashed mine last week to CROMI and first thing I check were all the keys. Everything seemed good and the double widget worked for me as well. I have had to much time to play and didn't check to see if my firmware on the dock was old. I I'll check that tonight.
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Will anything change with my dock
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Short answer is no
Both CM10.1 (by now) and CRomI make advantage of the dock, and although my prefence goes to CRomI, I have seen great development in the CM10.1 section, more specifically how the rom makes use of the dock.
So no worries!
Root it and have a much faster (almost blazing) piece of aesthetic machinery!
Mikey1969 said:
Thanks guys for your help, I'm glad I asked, since you listed some issues with other ROMs. I'll play around with this thing this weekend, and try out CROMI .
Once again, I appreciate the help. I'm not always sure anymore, message boards used to be the safe place for the most noob question, nowadays, it's hit and miss...
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I'm sure yo uwill not be disappointed, and with issues, we're here to help as well as we can.
As far as the noob bashing is concerned: it's not too bad in here. I'm possibly one of the most agressive members -- at least as far as cases of non-reading are concerned. Some people just can't be bothered to use the search function, or even glance over the 5 similarly named topics on the first page of a forum ("howz do I n00b root JB?"), and sometimes that really gets to me. Or people being unappreciative of the many hours of life we all put in here, especially our great devs. It's a calling of some dubous sort, but still it's a hobby, it's not a paid job.
Yours was a legitimate question, though, so as far as I am concerned you're in the clear. Hahaha!
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I'm sure yo uwill not be disappointed, and with issues, we're here to help as well as we can.
As far as the noob bashing is concerned: it's not too bad in here. I'm possibly one of the most agressive members -- at least as far as cases of non-reading are concerned. Some people just can't be bothered to use the search function, or even glance over the 5 similarly named topics on the first page of a forum ("howz do I n00b root JB?"), and sometimes that really gets to me. Or people being unappreciative of the many hours of life we all put in here, especially our great devs. It's a calling of some dubous sort, but still it's a hobby, it's not a paid job.
Yours was a legitimate question, though, so as far as I am concerned you're in the clear. Hahaha!
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Yeah, the biggest offender in user forums has been Adobe. Back around 2002, '03, when I was still in school, they were a great way to figure out how to use new tools, and work your way through problems. Eventually they turned into a superiority-fest, with nothing but flaming. You'd mention that you needed to handle files a certain way, or use certain file formats, and instead of help, you'd just get a bunch of replies calling you a moron for doing the proces the way you were doing it, stuff like that. It got bad enough that I quit using them altogether after 4-5 years of referring people to them whenever possible.
I've been staying away from this board only because I'm not a dev, just a user, and I figured this was a little above my pay grade, so to speak, but over the last couple of years, I've ended up here more and more, so I'm really liking the community! :good:
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Yeah, the biggest offender in user forums has been Adobe. Back around 2002, '03, when I was still in school, they were a great way to figure out how to use new tools, and work your way through problems. Eventually they turned into a superiority-fest, with nothing but flaming. You'd mention that you needed to handle files a certain way, or use certain file formats, and instead of help, you'd just get a bunch of replies calling you a moron for doing the proces the way you were doing it, stuff like that. It got bad enough that I quit using them altogether after 4-5 years of referring people to them whenever possible.
I've been staying away from this board only because I'm not a dev, just a user, and I figured this was a little above my pay grade, so to speak, but over the last couple of years, I've ended up here more and more, so I'm really liking the community! :good:
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Most of us are not developers themselves, but just well-meaning halfnoobs. (I'm speaking for myself here, no need for anyone else to feel offended. ) XDA is OK, but a little sometimes not-so-)friendly 'policing' has to be done to keep it that way. Sometimes it only takes a little nudge -- I'd rather have us cleanse ourselves than to be dependent on a moderator for every single time something small happens. These guys -- although REALLY relaxed in our parts -- do have a lot to deal with without us giving them more to do. If it really gets too hot too handle, I mostly back out anyway, or go the PM route.
CM10.1 plays nice with dock.
Mikey1969 said:
Hey all,
Just got the Infinity Pad, and I love it!
Well, almost... I'm still going to root and flash the thing...
Anyway, I just want to ask what people's experience with the dock is. I know it has its own firmware, and I also know that there are changes in how things work once I plug it in. I don't want to lose this functionality , so I wanted to check first.
Are there any issues that pop up at all when flashing the tablet, or do all of the features work? I still want the second battery meter and the multi-touch capabilities on the trackpad, for example. Also, while I'm here, one more thing: Are there custom ROMs for the dock out there?
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CM10.1 works well with the dock, all function keys work, you will just not get the onscreen notifications that they have been pressed (and screen brightness is a bt more laggy but still works fine). if you want button press notifications for function keys you can turn them on in CM10.1 settings but they pop up in the notification drawer rather than in the darkened rectangle in the center of the screen. I think CM10.1 is worth any mild decrease in dock functionality (like no function key notifications). Not sure about the USB port on any ROMS.
This is a hard one to describe, but haven't found any references to the same problem elsewhere.
Certain app (many) show certain number fields as many orders of magnitude larger than they should be, except eBay app, which shows 0 cost for everything - which would be nice if it were true. See screenshots.
Any ideas?
It's unlocked and rooted, with an early 'stock' JB ROM
I have no idea what is causing this, but I would just flash the latest 4.2.1 firmware and root it with Motochopper if you want to stay on stock.
But since you are unlocked already - why don't you try a custom rom like CROMi-X 4.7? SO much better than stock.....
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Yeah, I thought I might just try flashing 4.2.1 and see if that helped with this, and more generally.
I've got some general ingrained aversion to going off-stock, dunno why really. I subject my wife to custom ROMs with no concern :laugh:
Well, if i'm flashing anyway, I might as well check out your CROMi-X suggestion. The main benefit I would be looking for would be speed, I find the Infinity slower than i'd like...
Cheers