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What does prime 1.6 offer over stock 3.1 root?

I haven't flashed to any Tom's yet, but this seems to be the most popular. Why is that? I looked at the change log and I don't understand what I would be gaining I guess.
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same too me, I tried it over 3.1, what I experienced:
- browser little bit slower
- more SOD
- nothing real extra feature

I have to use a custom rom for a couple of reasons:
1) My stock rom is the Chinese verison, which means no google apps or google sync. Without google, it's just not android.
2) I need the Chinese input methods. I would normally switch to the USA stock rom, but it doesn't have Chinese input. Prime does/did, Chinese handwriting input is MIA, but I'll sure it will be taken care of.
I choose to use a custom rom for these reasons:
3) I don't like excess crap on my computer. I can modify a custom rom before I install it, mostly just removing apps that I will never use.
4) Root! I love freedom on my computer. Root lets me do things. All kinds of neat things: block ads, increase speed on sd card, delete/modify system apps and directories, and lots more. Look into it, it is fun.
5) Overclock. Prime doesn't have it, but you can add a kernal that does. I currently don't overclock, but as the Tegra 2 ages, i will overclock it. I'm specifically waiting for a rom with a high GPU overclock. There is one out there that currently does have a minor GPU overclock.
6) Clockwork Recovery. Backup, restore, switch roms, clear cache and more.
Why I choose Prime:
7) Dock battery meter in the taskbar.
8) Reboot/recovery options for power button.
After looking through the current selection of roms available, I choose Prime. But I keep my eye on revolver and Clemsyn.

bobloadmire said:
I haven't flashed to any Tom's yet, but this seems to be the most popular. Why is that? I looked at the change log and I don't understand what I would be gaining I guess.
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How do you not? OP clearly states that there are optimizations made to increase load times etc etc.

No, op states "better user experience" which is very vague. Also I'm not having any slow load times, everything is pretty zippy.
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bobloadmire said:
I haven't flashed to any Tom's yet, but this seems to be the most popular. Why is that? I looked at the change log and I don't understand what I would be gaining I guess.
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Last time I flashed a Tom he punched me in the face...
One reason I haven't seen mentioned would also be themes, but it is still early in the game, there are few options. Custom Roms are generally just optimized better, though the Transformer doesn't have nearly the bloat some Android devices have making them almost essential...
Honestly once you learn, it is such an easy process that flashing different roms/kernels and trying them is the only real way to know what is best for you and your usage.

bobloadmire said:
No, op states "better user experience" which is very vague. Also I'm not having any slow load times, everything is pretty zippy.
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Then why are you worrying about ROMs? It's obvious you want some of that Baconcomb so just get it already.
Honestly, I don't know why people ever need to "beg" you to try something. If you're happy with what you got already, then be happy.
"If it isn't broken, don't fix it"
If you're curious, then just do it... because all in honesty. One person's opinion is only a opinion. The only way you're going to know if it's worth it is from YOUR personal experience. I can personally say that, PRIME 1.6 and root is good and its worth it.
If you don't want to take my word for it, then don't. I'm not going to beg you to do it.

zephiK said:
Then why are you worrying about ROMs? It's obvious you want some of that Baconcomb so just get it already.
Honestly, I don't know why people ever need to "beg" you to try something. If you're happy with what you got already, then be happy.
"If it isn't broken, don't fix it"
If you're curious, then just do it... because all in honesty. One person's opinion is only a opinion. The only way you're going to know if it's worth it is from YOUR personal experience. I can personally say that, PRIME 1.6 and root is good and its worth it.
If you don't want to take my word for it, then don't. I'm not going to beg you to do it.
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The reason im asking is so i dont miss out on anything and obviously im looking for empiracle data to help me understand any performance benefits.
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zephiK said:
Then why are you worrying about ROMs? It's obvious you want some of that Baconcomb so just get it already.
Honestly, I don't know why people ever need to "beg" you to try something. If you're happy with what you got already, then be happy.
"If it isn't broken, don't fix it"
If you're curious, then just do it... because all in honesty. One person's opinion is only a opinion. The only way you're going to know if it's worth it is from YOUR personal experience. I can personally say that, PRIME 1.6 and root is good and its worth it.
If you don't want to take my word for it, then don't. I'm not going to beg you to do it.
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Wow...
He asked what was the difference between stock and Prime, and you went off in another direction. He wasn't asking to be "begged" into using Prime nor asking for others to convince him into using Prime at all.
Anyways, I know Prime has a few optimizations, but I don't know if it brings any substantial changes. There's a link to download the power/recovery mod, so I suppose it could be applied to any ROM including rooted stock.

One reason I would like to root my tf101 is to be able to use a USB dongle. But I am waiting for 3.2 to come out before since I just got my tf101.
The stock version is pretty good actually. No major complaints so far.

I hav ebeen using Prime for a while but ASUS stock version is definitely quite good. Even more so for lack of garbageware that so plagues the mobile phones...

Yea I guess I'm in the same camp. I haven't seen a compelling reason to move to a different ROM versus rooted stock. There are too many posts that seem to lead users to believe that a different ROM is the same as root. Remember you can root the stock ROM. The OP is asking what user experience enhancements make Prime (or any other ROM) compelling.

If you read changelog second post it will tell you exactly what's new in the ROM. Many changes are only useful for experienced linux users, but many others are useful for everyone. The nice thing about roms is that most of the things and tweaks are already done for you. If you don't need/care about those changes then there is no point for you to reflash.

Which BXX mod did you get ?
I'm curious because I'm thinking of picking up one of these today ( the guy at Orifice Depot tried to get me to buy an Iconia, but that thing doesn't have anywhere near the support the TF is getting...)....?

Manufacturer's (ASUS included) have to be very careful about their ROM releases so they are thoroughly tested and ready to release to the general public. Consequently they are slower to release updates (i.e. NVidia updates, etc.). Custom ROMs generally consolidate the best and latest releases from various manufacturer's into the most cuttest edge versions you can possibly be running. As you'll notice this can also mean more lock-ups and weird issues since you are getting just-available changes. So if you prefer max stability, stick with the manufacturer's updates. For many of us part of the fun of owning an Android tablet is the rapid pace that custom ROMs are put out and the interesting/quirky things they bring us.

marcelol said:
I'm curious because I'm thinking of picking up one of these today ( the guy at Orifice Depot tried to get me to buy an Iconia, but that thing doesn't have anywhere near the support the TF is getting...)....?
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I got a B60 TF and a B60 dock from my local OD this past weekend (Denver, CO).

Prime Vs Stock
Reason why I flashed the Prime Rom. With Prime and a netflix patch I'm able to stream netflix movie. Also now Adhoc connections work. I can Wifi tehther my TF101 with my Driod using the adhoc connection. I can now easily reboot into recovery prior to this going into recovery was a bit tricky. This was not possible even with HC 3.2. Also I don't have to worry about losing root becuase of an OTA update.

I am actually a flashaholic when it comes to flashing roms on my phone. But so far, I haven't come across any compelling reasons to flash custom roms on my transformer. The need to flash roms on phones offer benefits that are non existant on a tablet. For instance, one major reason to flash custom roms on phones is to enable free wifi tethering, which obviously does not apply here. Another reason, as stated above is to remove bloatware. The transformer doesn't really have that. And yet another reason is to be able to update to the latest Android version before the official release. Correct me if i'm wrong but when I looked, the 3.2 update came out officially before any transformer custom roms had it. There are a couple more minor customizations options that I'm not seeing yet being offered by the transformer roms. I am fully aware of the speed enhancements and optimizations that custom roms offer, but considering the custom roms for the transformer are still relatively new (no disrespect or discredit to the devs for their hard work), and considering that even still now, the rooting and flashing methods keep getting outdated and changed, it's too early in this ballgame for me to flash.

I've been lurking the forums here now for a month and finally pulled the trigger, my TF get's here monday.
I have yet to see any reason to flash a custom rom or even root at this point. I'll be rooting it just to say it's rooted and just for a couple of root only programs I have. The custom roms don't really bring anything to the table that this tablet doesn't have. it has the newest version of android with all the bells and whistles. I'm not going to be overclocking. I understand netflix is big for some people, but, from what I have read flashing the fix breaks some video playback. I'm ok to wait for the official netflix patch. A 32gb MicroSD and the 16gb on board space is plenty to store movies on for travel etc. I also have a server I run at home that will stream my entire movie,. TV, and music collections directly to me.
Having the best of the best and the most up to date version of android does have it's perks

Performance and Alternate Firmwares

Folks,
My TF700, along with a few others I've seen post here, has been increasingly sluggish under JB compared to ICS, regardless of how many cold boots and complete resets are performed. In addition, I get frequent white screen crashes and complete reboots that happen under heavy use.
So, with that said, here are my questions from those of you with some experience:
1. Should we expect an update from the manufacturer that will address all of this within a short (month?) period of time?
2. Since it's official that CM will provide an "official" port to the TF700, how long does it usually take them to provide a fairly feature rich one (GPS, Microphone, etc support unlike the unofficial port in the development forums)?
3. If both #1 & #2 are >1 month, can you recommend a solution that provides all tablet features? The other JB builds I saw do not provide full features from what I could see, correct?
Thank you for any answers you can provide.

If you are unlocked, you can always downgrade to ICS .30, or a custom Rom like cleanrom.

spinaldex said:
Folks,
My TF700, along with a few others I've seen post here, has been increasingly sluggish under JB compared to ICS, regardless of how many cold boots and complete resets are performed. In addition, I get frequent white screen crashes and complete reboots that happen under heavy use.
So, with that said, here are my questions from those of you with some experience:
1. Should we expect an update from the manufacturer that will address all of this within a short (month?) period of time?
2. Since it's official that CM will provide an "official" port to the TF700, how long does it usually take them to provide a fairly feature rich one (GPS, Microphone, etc support unlike the unofficial port in the development forums)?
3. If both #1 & #2 are >1 month, can you recommend a solution that provides all tablet features? The other JB builds I saw do not provide full features from what I could see, correct?
Thank you for any answers you can provide.
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1. ASUS are not quick. Given past performance I don't think there is a chance of seeing an update that will successfully deal with the sluggishness issues.
2. I don't think it will be too long until the first official CM10 builds are released (days/weeks rather than weeks/months). Looking at where they are in development at present I expect the initial releases to be pretty complete. However, until they are released and tested you never know what problems and bugs may be encountered.
3. Your best bet at the moment is CleanROM - its the stock rom with all the bloat removed and some other tweaks to improve performance. Having tried the stock JB release and CleanROM I will say that the performance of CleanROM is way better.

Reboots, white screens and freezes are not normal for this or any tablet.
Firmwares and roms won't fix this. Send it back and get one that functions properly.

sbdags said:
Reboots, white screens and freezes are not normal for this or any tablet.
Firmwares and roms won't fix this. Send it back and get one that functions properly.
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actually, reboots and freezes are quite normal. There have been several posts about it since this device launched. I was a victim of this as well. Made me want to get rid of it. but after rooting and installing cleanrom, i have not had any issues.
Yes, the rom gets rid of the bloat, but with the new update, you have the option of keeping the bloat that you may want. I highly recommend rooting and installing this rom. It will feel like you purchased a new device.

timrock said:
actually, reboots and freezes are quite normal. There have been several posts about it since this device launched. I was a victim of this as well. Made me want to get rid of it. but after rooting and installing cleanrom, i have not had any issues.
Yes, the rom gets rid of the bloat, but with the new update, you have the option of keeping the bloat that you may want. I highly recommend rooting and installing this rom. It will feel like you purchased a new device.
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Your experience is just one data point and all the other posts combined here are just an incredibly small subset of the entire install base, so, no, just because you experienced it does not make it "normal". IMHO, regular reboots and freezes are NOT normal in a properly functioning TF running compatible software (some android apps do suck and/or are not compatible with new OS versions).
So, in spite of your experience, I personally would NEVER recommend doing something that will permanently void the warranty and completely eliminate the possibility of returning it if the root cause is a hardware problem. Instead, I'd return it, if the new one does it too switch brands.
I'm glad for your happiness with the updated ROM but an unlock on an in warranty tablet that is behaving badly is fundamentally bad advice, IMHO.

zenaxe said:
Your experience is just one data point and all the other posts combined here are just an incredibly small subset of the entire install base, so, no, just because you experienced it does not make it "normal". IMHO, regular reboots and freezes are NOT normal in a properly functioning TF running compatible software (some android apps do suck and/or are not compatible with new OS versions).
So, in spite of your experience, I personally would NEVER recommend doing something that will permanently void the warranty and completely eliminate the possibility of returning it if the root cause is a hardware problem. Instead, I'd return it, if the new one does it too switch brands.
I'm glad for your happiness with the updated ROM but an unlock on an in warranty tablet that is behaving badly is fundamentally bad advice, IMHO.
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well xda is not the only website where people talk about electronics. I have seen a great number of complaints about this device. And i agree, there could be a very large number of people out there who are happy with their devices and don't have these issues. But it still remains, there are issues.
I can suggest/recommend people to root/unlock their devices, whether they do it or not, thats totally up to them. Before doing so, they should know the risk involved.

I'll be completely honest on how I feel about the TF700. Before the JB update, the tablet was slow. After the JB update, the tablet was still slow! I love the concept behind the TF700, and it's a beautiful tablet. But, it really does just suck because of its I/O.
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I'll be completely honest on how I feel about the TF700. Before the JB update, the tablet was slow. After the JB update, the tablet was still slow! I love the concept behind the TF700, and it's a beautiful tablet. But, it really does just suck because of its I/O.
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I really must just be lucky because I honestly have not experienced any of the lag or crashes that other people report. Yeah, transfer speed over USB is unusually slow, but it's still better than what USB 1.1 was
Honestly, from all that I've read, this tab is hit or miss. You will either have an absolute dream machine or you will have a nightmare. If you are #1, congrats and have fun with this beast. If you are #2 and it's too late to return it, try out all the roms and see which you like best. Even though the custom roms are fun on this tablet, I return time after time to just plain ol' rooted de-odexed stock and remove the bloat myself. This has consistently given me the best overall results

It sounds closed minded, but I don't think it's hit or miss. The I/O issue has run in the Transformer line up from the beginning. I was foolish to believe they would get it under control by the TF700. I love the tablet, I do, but its I/O is undeniably terrible. There's times when it runs flawless for me. But there other times where I can't even stand to use it. I haven't had a single freeze or reboot on JB, Just times of slow performance. If this thing had a better I/O, it would be the best damn tablet ever.
I'm really scared for the Vivo tab, it might have an I/O issue too. God forbid you have an I/O issue with Windows....
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Not only is the i/o bad (usually code for slow random read/write), but the sequential read is also horrendous. It takes forever for this tablet to load.
The solution would be more ram or to mount the device on an external microsd with better performance.
That being said the infinitys all weve got for fhd tablets until the bew samsung nexus fhd tablet cominf out next year (which will probably be gimped because google wont allow external storage on nexus devices).
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I never had any problems with my tablet on a stock firmware (latest JB). What annoyed me very much is the slugish performance.
Navigation between screens and applications is annoying. I often use google reader and adobe acrobat to read PDFs, and they were so bad.
I do also have samsung galaxy s3 which flies comparing to TF700. My gf has ipad3 which is uber fast too.
So, I've decided to try out CleanRom and so far it's good. It's definitely faster and more smooth.

I have my tablet now 3 weeks. After byuing it I was 4 days on ICS and then got the update to JB.
The speed difference is immense and I have no sluggishness at all.
Only thing I have is that 1 time it wouldn't come out of deep sleep (had to reboot) and had 1 spontaneous reboot since then.
Froze many bloat apps and that gave the tablet some air to breathe RAM wise.
But stock browser is very fast and last week I could compare it to an Ipad3 and speed is quite the same. It depends more on the Wifi speed available.
Opening apps is instantly and fast so no complaints here.
Strange that the experience of some users is totally different.
But let's say there are now 1 million Infinity's sold, a very minority have probs because (proven) people who have complaints will look for it on the internet and will start complaining there also.
But who has no probs will not come here, for sure the majority of users.
So do not magnify the probs more than needed and do not generalize them.
But for sure complain to ASUS asking for a solution depending of the prob by either replacing the defective unit or come quickly with an software update.
Just my 2c

[Q] Why lack of ROMs / Root even worth it?

Hello everyone,
I just got my TF300T last night and it is a great tablet. Before I do anything (upgrade to Jellybean, etc) I am wondering why it seems there isn't much development for the tablet. I have had a couple android tablets and phones, and have rooted all of them for custom ROMs and such, but it almost seems like that's not really done a whole lot here. I just read one thread where the stock ROM was preferred by a good deal over any other ROM. Is there any reason for this? Any particular reasons I should still root, other than installing custom ROMs and kernels?
Thanks for your input.

dman918 said:
Hello everyone,
I just got my TF300T last night and it is a great tablet. Before I do anything (upgrade to Jellybean, etc) I am wondering why it seems there isn't much development for the tablet. I have had a couple android tablets and phones, and have rooted all of them for custom ROMs and such, but it almost seems like that's not really done a whole lot here. I just read one thread where the stock ROM was preferred by a good deal over any other ROM. Is there any reason for this? Any particular reasons I should still root, other than installing custom ROMs and kernels?
Thanks for your input.
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Rooting is not required to install a rom, most non stock roms are rooted when you install ( they require you to unlock and void warranty ). If you wish to stay stock and don't see a need for root then don't do it.
If I could begin again I would stay on ICS for a time longer. I think good things for this unit are around the next corner.
Devs are working hard to make this happen. The JB bootloader has caused problems with most roms we are accustomed to. Once on JB you can't go back to ICS ( at this time ).
Good Luck!

Thank you for the response. How would I load TWRP onto the tablet then? I know people are suggesting not to unlock the tablet's bootloader unless I have to, so I'd prefer not to.
I figure if I go to JB, I'd load something like CleanROM as people seem to be quite happy with it.
Any additional information is greatly appreciated.

You need to unlock your tablet if u want to install a Rom and recovery

Oh ok. Gotcha. So then I think I know which guide I have to use. Thank you for your help and clarification.

OK, unlocked and such. Loaded CleanROM. Running well so far, but now I have to research ROMs to see which reigns supreme.

Cleanrom is the best for with unt's kernel
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dman918 said:
OK, unlocked and such. Loaded CleanROM. Running well so far, but now I have to research ROMs to see which reigns supreme.
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Since you are now on the JB bootloader here is a thread to watch as there will be a new rom coming, don't hold your breath. The reason for the breath statement is this is a big undertaking. It will allow numerous other roms you don't now see in the dev section. Everything now available on JB is based on the stock kernel, this should overcome that limitation.
AOSP, AOKP, Paranoid Android, and so on
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1942369
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stock optimized for combination with keyboard dock
dman918 said:
Hello everyone,
I just got my TF300T last night and it is a great tablet. Before I do anything (upgrade to Jellybean, etc) I am wondering why it seems there isn't much development for the tablet. I have had a couple android tablets and phones, and have rooted all of them for custom ROMs and such, but it almost seems like that's not really done a whole lot here. I just read one thread where the stock ROM was preferred by a good deal over any other ROM. Is there any reason for this? Any particular reasons I should still root, other than installing custom ROMs and kernels?
Thanks for your input.
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For me personally, I prefer using a stock-based ROM over the AOSP based ROM for day to day use. The reason is really simple, and that is the keyboard dock works much better on the stock based ROM. In CM10, for example, the lock/unlock button on the keyboard doesn't work. Also, closing the tablet and the keyboard does not result in the screen turning off automatically (you have to manually press the power button whenever you want to close the tab-dock). If you forget to do this, the battery takes a hit. As well, the mouse cursor in AOSP ROM is not exactly a "cursor", more like a giant circle (it's the default touch indicator in android). I use the keyboard dock a lot for drafting my college assignments, so stock-based Roms are perfect for me.

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For me personally, I prefer using a stock-based ROM over the AOSP based ROM for day to day use. The reason is really simple, and that is the keyboard dock works much better on the stock based ROM. In CM10, for example, the lock/unlock button on the keyboard doesn't work. Also, closing the tablet and the keyboard does not result in the screen turning off automatically (you have to manually press the power button whenever you want to close the tab-dock). If you forget to do this, the battery takes a hit. As well, the mouse cursor in AOSP ROM is not exactly a "cursor", more like a giant circle (it's the default touch indicator in android). I use the keyboard dock a lot for drafting my college assignments, so stock-based Roms are perfect for me.
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I've noticed the same thing with the closing the tab-dock issue. When I turn off my screen and close it, the screen turns back on right before the tab touches the dock to close, so I have to turn it off again right before closing it to prevent random stuff from opening up/battery draining.
Other than that, I've had great fun playing with the various ROMs. I ran CM9 for the longest time but I switched recently to the Blackbean ROM. Its based on CM9 so it has all the features I like, but its all black/inverted so its better for battery and a lot easier to read in bed at night.
CleanROM is good, so is HydroROM, but I've found that I really enjoy the speed and efficiency of some of these other custom ROMS.

Worth the upgrade?

I am looking to upgrade from my HP TouchPad running CM10 and am considering buying an Infinity soon as I really like it over the N10 because of the dock. I am however concerned regarding all the lag and I/O comments I read. IMy HP TouchPad running CM10 and primarily it is used when I travel and while watching TV to surf the web and answer emails rather than use my large laptop. I am able to have 8-10 tabs in the stock browser open at a time without really seeing much of an issue. Will this be something I am able to still do with the Infinity or will it cause the browser to constantly crash? I do not play games hardly at all on it and will sometimes watch divx videos while traveling as well. My main worry is about the web browsing experience compared to what I am using now. I hope it will be as good or better so hopefully someone can answer that for me.
Another thing I use a lot is Eye-Fi to transfer all my pictures from my camera to my tablet to look when I am not home. Would transferring large 10MP files to it be an issue? They go pretty fast right now when I transfer them to my Galaxy Nexus.

cccoltsicehockey said:
I am looking to upgrade from my HP TouchPad running CM10 and am considering buying an Infinity soon as I really like it over the N10 because of the dock. I am however concerned regarding all the lag and I/O comments I read. IMy HP TouchPad running CM10 and primarily it is used when I travel and while watching TV to surf the web and answer emails rather than use my large laptop. I am able to have 8-10 tabs in the stock browser open at a time without really seeing much of an issue. Will this be something I am able to still do with the Infinity or will it cause the browser to constantly crash? I do not play games hardly at all on it and will sometimes watch divx videos while traveling as well. My main worry is about the web browsing experience compared to what I am using now. I hope it will be as good or better so hopefully someone can answer that for me.
Another thing I use a lot is Eye-Fi to transfer all my pictures from my camera to my tablet to look when I am not home. Would transferring large 10MP files to it be an issue? They go pretty fast right now when I transfer them to my Galaxy Nexus.
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I can't help you with that Eye-Fi question,
but I can try to answer your upgrade-related question
Anyway, I think that as long as you're experienced in flashing custom roms (in your case, I am sure you are, looking at the Rom you are running ) the I/O issue is no issue at all and most (if not all) lag is gone after installing CleanRom Inheritance.
It really boosts your device, without having to sacrifice battery life!
On top of that, it has also improved video/streaming playback drastically, making this device as top-tier as Asus claimed it is

adelancker said:
I can't help you with that Eye-Fi question,
but I can try to answer your upgrade-related question
Anyway, I think that as long as you're experienced in flashing custom roms (in your case, I am sure you are, looking at the Rom you are running ) the I/O issue is no issue at all and most (if not all) lag is gone after installing CleanRom Inheritance.
It really boosts your device, without having to sacrifice battery life!
On top of that, it has also improved video/streaming playback drastically, making this device as top-tier as Asus claimed it is
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+1. Also disable animation, makes you think you have the fastest tablet in the world!! super snappy!

I'll agree with the above!
There's quite a following going here.
This is a ROM flashers tablet IMO.
For myself I gave up on the OTA's from the manufacturer and started going the route of custom ROMs.
Been extremely happy with the work done in development.
Hope to see you join on!

Ok good to know. I assume then though I will be disappointed until I flash I custom ROM to it then? Will I most likely get a version that I can unlock it with NVFlash out of the box as long as I don't do the updates and unlock/root/flash it right away?

Also any specific reason for CleanROM over CM?

cccoltsicehockey said:
I assume then though I will be disappointed until I flash I custom ROM to it then?
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I would say you may not necessarily be displeased with JellyBean in stock form.
A great number of users are more than happy with this tab in it's pure Android state.
cccoltsicehockey said:
Will I most likely get a version that I can unlock it with NVFlash out of the box as long as I don't do the updates and unlock/root/flash it right away?
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Yes
I will state that you will be able to bring home an ICS 4.03 version with the .26 firmware.
True don't allow OTA updating until you weave thru the NVFlash process.
I wasn't able to do NVFlash because of updating then finding out about it afterward.
Good luck if you decide to leap!

Alright went to Best Buy last night and played with the Infinity for about 30min. It definitely seemed pretty slow compared to my touchpad running CM and it didn't even want to load 3-4 webpages at a time. I did not however get the wait/close pop up at all. The screen was amazing (one major reason for wanting to upgrade, 1024x768 just isn't cutting it anymore) and the keyboard is a lot better to type on than what a lot of people seem to say. It didn't seem overly small to me.
Thats OK said:
Yes
I will state that you will be able to bring home an ICS 4.03 version with the .26 firmware.
True don't allow OTA updating until you weave thru the NVFlash process.
I wasn't able to do NVFlash because of updating then finding out about it afterward.
Good luck if you decide to leap!
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That is great to know I will be able to do the NVFlash though as that is really the only way I would want to root and flash this tablet. I like the fact it can't be bricked doing that.
Is it correct that I have read once I have the blobs from doing NVFlash I can manually upgrade to the most current firmware and NVFlash will still work? If so it seems I will actually finally have made up my mind of what tablet to get.

cccoltsicehockey said:
Also any specific reason for CleanROM over CM?
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Yes, I think it's overal nicer and faster with CR.
Not to mention that it has a bit better implementation with the keyboard dock (if you have decided to buy that). You also get amazing support from the developer of CleanRom and the Rom Installer gives you the ability to choose what you want and what tweaks you like. Therefore, it's really nice to use it.
Besides, sometimes it's handy having the 3 'performance' modes and IPS+ toggle in the notification bar. Asus did some things right, so we should give them credit for that

[Q] Non-ASUS Roms and Dock Compatibility?

My wife's JB stock Asus TF700 is being annoying. It's laggy, audio recording hiccups and stutters and lags, and in general my Nexus 7 makes it look really bad (and it's not like she's installed a bunch of junk on it, and these problems persist after reboots/cache wipes).
I don't mind at all unlocking it and doing things like custom kernels, kernel tweaks etc. But I have a few reservations....one of the biggest is the dock with non-ASUS ROMs. I want to make sure that full dock functionality is there. That means the trackpad works, the keyboard works, the SD card slot in the keyboard works, etc. Is there any reason to be concerned about this with custom TF700 ROMs? I don't really see their descriptions addressing this.
The other question is, how likely is it I'll see the improvements I want just by putting in a custom kernel, maybe running an app like Seeder, and/or FSTrim to combat lagginess, and just otherwise leave the stock ASUS Jelly Bean on it, albeit rooted.
Hope this question hasn't been asked and answered before. I *did* search.
Randy

I run CROMI 3.2.1 on my TF700 & have no problems with my keyboard dock. keys all work, as does the SDcard.
This ROM is built off of Asus's Rom, just improved upon.
I've noticed a huge difference in my tablet since switching to CROMI over the stock ROM.
Not sure about just putting in a new kernel though.
Someone else might be able to answer that better.

I'm running CROMI 3.2 + ubuntu on dualboot (rabits) and even with the custom kernel, everything related to the dock works on the android side (the SD reader on the dock is a little problematic while running linux but that is kind of to be expected with an alpha build)
I would go with the newest CleanRom Inheritance (CROMI) and run one of clemsyn's kernels with it.
Stupid fast (compared to stock at least)
I'm also running with fsync disabled, and the performance difference is definitely noticeable.

Also running CROMI 3.2.1, everything works as with the stock ROM, just much, much better!
On stock I was ok with this tablet, got it for the flexibility and keyboard and put up with the lagginess.
Now I absolutely love it! So much fun!
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk HD

If you're really worried about dock support, go the CROMI route -- I'm another proponent and use it myself. It is INSANE how much difference it makes. The lay-out and general user experience is the same, so the transition is... hell, it's not even small or negligible, it's just absent.
Do yourself and your wife a favor and flash CROMI. I warn you, however: once done, there's no way you're going back to stock, and even the other ROMs probably lose to CROMI (by maybe a small margin, I haven't tested lately sicne I'm really happy with the performance as is).

Sweet!! Thanks, guys! I'll give it a go. Looks like others are saying the ASUS unlocker will work on the JB stock ROM so, presumably I no longer have to worry about going through the 'downgrade' to ICS first...
Recommendations on the recovery? CWM? TWRP?
Thanks,
Randy
PS You may have gathered this, but I've been doing this with phones & tablets for a long time with Android, so I'm not 'new' to it, I just didn't know how to deal with the wildcard of the dock thrown in the mix.

rmagruder said:
Sweet!! Thanks, guys! I'll give it a go. Looks like others are saying the ASUS unlocker will work on the JB stock ROM so, presumably I no longer have to worry about going through the 'downgrade' to ICS first...
Recommendations on the recovery? CWM? TWRP?
Thanks,
Randy
PS You may have gathered this, but I've been doing this with phones & tablets for a long time with Android, so I'm not 'new' to it, I just didn't know how to deal with the wildcard of the dock thrown in the mix.
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TWRP, no doubt, but not the latest version, stay with TWRP version 2.3.1.0 (first choice) or 2.3.3.0(second choice).

buhohitr said:
TWRP, no doubt, but not the latest version, stay with TWRP version 2.3.1.0 (first choice) or 2.3.3.0(second choice).
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Hehehe, here's where opinions start differing. I'm a CWM guy, but probably due to having learned where everything is. I believe the current versions of TWRP are really good, and since they're friendlier to learn (and operate, I guess) there's no shame in using TWRP, and whichever one you happen to choose doesn't really matter since they perform the most important tasks equally well.
One real advantage of TWRP is being able to use GooManager to update it on the device itself. As I think of it now, now I've had to tape the tablet inside the dock, I'm probably going to have to go the TWRP route myself soon... (I don't know if I can fastboot through the dock. Ugh)
Still, I vote CWM.

Don't forget to get your nvflash backup setup first...

rmagruder said:
JB stock
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DocCox said:
Don't forget to get your nvflash backup setup first...
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Too late.

buhohitr said:
TWRP, no doubt, but not the latest version, stay with TWRP version 2.3.1.0 (first choice) or 2.3.3.0(second choice).
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Last couple of versions of TWRP feel a bit like betas to me. It offers a brilliant interface but it's a bit disconcerting that it can freeze anywhere in the flash process. I've switched to CWM and whilst it is incredibly slow in comparison to TWRP it is at least stable.