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[Q] Pros to rooting right now?

Now, usually I'm a proponent of rooting anything and everything immediately, but I'm not so sure about this yet.
Without HC source, we have a very limited ROM set, and I don't really see much appeal to the ones available. I haven't seen any custom kernels for things like overclocking/undervolting, etc. either.
I know there are a few apps that require root, not really sure if the few are worth it at the moment. All the backup apps are kind of unnecessary if I won't be flashing ROMs anyway.
At this time, with official updates rolling out every few weeks, I'm just wondering if it's actually worth it to root at this point. Are there any major benefits to doing so right now? Killer apps, undervolt kernels, etc.?

MadSage said:
Now, usually I'm a proponent of rooting anything and everything immediately, but I'm not so sure about this yet.
Without HC source, we have a very limited ROM set, and I don't really see much appeal to the ones available. I haven't seen any custom kernels for things like overclocking/undervolting, etc. either.
I know there are a few apps that require root, not really sure if the few are worth it at the moment. All the backup apps are kind of unnecessary if I won't be flashing ROMs anyway.
At this time, with official updates rolling out every few weeks, I'm just wondering if it's actually worth it to root at this point. Are there any major benefits to doing so right now? Killer apps, undervolt kernels, etc.?
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well for 1. this shouldnt be posted in the dev forum, it should be in the general forum.
2. There is currently one OC kernel in the works, there are some roms already(Prime was faster than stock and IMO I know benchmark scores dont make a difference but stock gave me about 2500 in quadrant, prime gave me 3500), There's titanium backup, ad blocking, you can change boot animations, access the system and move things around, change config files, hmmm lets see what else.. other apps that require root which many are VERY useful. One I have is a reboot widget, it's a 1x1 button widget that you press and it reboots the transformer. That's VERY useful and requires root.. There are many positives to rooting besides just flashing custom roms.. Hope that helps

Also you need root if you want to run Ubuntu. I know that made me root asap
Sorry for any typos. I have fat fingers, a 4" screen, a small child and a dictionary gone wild...

garnmeister said:
Also you need root if you want to run Ubuntu. I know that made me root asap
Sorry for any typos. I have fat fingers, a 4" screen, a small child and a dictionary gone wild...
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How is Ubuntu does it work with the dock
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Dunno, can't get scandinavian dock yet
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To me, the immediate benefit of rooting is Titanium backup.

p0k3y said:
To me, the immediate benefit of rooting is Titanium backup.
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I agree, that's the immediate thing. Especially if you use another android device. I can restore my progress from angry birds on my phone to the tablet Also, you can uninstall some garbage. I have no idea why layar is a system app. Seems strange to have an augmented reality app on a wifi tablet. Also, I got rid of that press reader app. Obviously asus was paid to put it on their since it's about selling subscriptions to news sources.
The next thing is the ability to block ads by installing AdFree from the market.
Eventually I hope to see some custom kernels that will speed up this thing. (We need to get toastcfh a transformer.)
With Ice Cream not coming until Q4, that will likely mean we won't get any source until then either. However, that doesn't mean that we won't be able to see a few cool things come out of some rom developers.

garnmeister said:
Also you need root if you want to run Ubuntu. I know that made me root asap
Sorry for any typos. I have fat fingers, a 4" screen, a small child and a dictionary gone wild...
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Did I miss the thread on how to get Ubuntu installed? If so, can someone please kindly point me in the right direction? I got a US TF with stock rom and newest fota if that helps.

Look here:
http://androlinux.com/android-ubuntu-development/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-android
Or here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=987740
I am running Ubuntu Maverick ATM, but am going to try the other over the weekend I think
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Digitallife in the sky!
Home Server / Mediacenter core i3
Asus eee Pad Transformer
Samsung Galaxy S
... All in wonderful sync

Lets not forget
Setcpu - set underclock profiles for stuff like low battery or screen off. My battery time is through the roof now.

Do any of the custom ROMs allow for one to hide the menu bar?

I'm in the same boat. Til a dope custom rom comes out or a nice OC kernel, i'm staying stock.

[Q] Should I install a ROM on my Transformer?

Hey. I'm pretty new here, but I've been lurking for some time now. I picked up a Transformer at BB a week ago as a replacement to my iPad 2, and I'm very impressed. I have seen many ROMs available for this device, especially Revolver. I was wondering if it is worth rooting my TF and installing Revolver. Is it really that much of a difference? The only lag I experience is when I head to the stock browser, but on Dolphin for Pad I'm fine. I know there are probably hundreds of topics like this, but I haven't found any. I just wondered whether the advantages of Revolver are worth the root. Thanks!
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Congrats i just baught one for myself late july as a B-Day present im loving it as well.
in regards to your question, it just depends. Keep in mind that Google has yet to relase the source code for Honeycomb so most roms are based on Gingerbread. Not that its a bad thing, but if your like me, i really do like the stock honeycomb interface.
Ofcoarse you could always just change roms and see how you like it, i myself am just going to wait for ICS in december/early2012

I've bought my Transformer a few days ago, and the first thing I've done is to root and flash a ROM on it.
My personal preference was to flash the latest PRIME build (which is HC3.2, the same as Revolver), as it seems like the dev seems to keep it up-to-date (even daily updates sometimes), and replies to most (if not all) issues people have... He also seems to work very hard by himself to get everything working and happy for everyone. I also have it over-clocked to 1.5GHz, and I've seen nothing but faster speeds on my Transformer and haven't noticed a big drop in battery life (I still have my Transformeron, after 30 hours of use).
The only downside is that you won't be able to receive any OTAs (Over The Air) updates straight from ASUS, but for something like PRIME, we get updates almost straight away as well through the dev that's developing it.
Before you think of rooting/romming, I suggest having a look at where you put the charger in your Transformer. There should be a black sticker that has the serial number. If it starts with B60, you're good to go. If it's B70 or above, you might want to research a bit more before trying to flash/rom (as there were some problems with the newer batch of Transformers with flashing).
But like anything, you can always keep a Titanium Backup of your apps/data and try different ROMs. (I'm thinking of trying out Revolver in a few days).
If you don't like it, you can always go back to stock anyway. Nothing big. It took me 10 minutes to flash from stock with NVFlash, so it's not really a hard process either.

if you don't know whether you should root or not, then you don't really need to root. you don't buying a hammer, then go looking for things to hammer. same with rooting.
that being said, the most generic reasons to root is 1) so you can do system backups, 2) overclocking, 3) use it as a hammer.
there are many specific reasons to root, but just as i can't list all the purposes of a hammer, i can't list all the reasons you would want to root.
it's hammer time.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk

finalhit said:
if you don't know whether you should root or not, then you don't really need to root. you don't buying a hammer, then go looking for things to hammer. same with rooting.
that being said, the most generic reasons to root is 1) so you can do system backups, 2) overclocking, 3) use it as a hammer.
there are many specific reasons to root, but just as i can't list all the purposes of a hammer, i can't list all the reasons you would want to root.
it's hammer time.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk
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He/she was talking about romming, not rooting. But sure, same sort of thing applies. It's really individual preferences.
Really, if you're absolutely happy with STOCK, then I suggest leaving it like that. It's sort of how there's a stock model of a car, and a tuned/modified model of the same car. One will get you from A to B faster (and maybe in more style some may argue), but both will get you to your destination in the end.

Thanks. I am eligible for the root, but I think I'll stay stock because I am not presently having any problems. All I can say is I am loving my Transformer!
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[Q] Will using a custom Rom solve my issues with the Transformer?

i have been an owner of the Transformer for just under a week, to be honest i think its a let down.
Internet experience is slow and jerky, flash takes a while to speed up. (Ive tried all browsers)
N64iod runs better and faster on my xperia play (which is a 1 core processor)
Some games seem to re-download every time i run them.
Cant play 720p with HW enabled with SW there slow.
Live wallpapers slow down the OS, my Xperia doesn't!
I could go on.
I know the OS is relatively new, but i cant buy that. The tablet cost me £415 with dock, If i was a normal customer, (the everyday user) i would take it back to the shop as i would think it was broke.
My last point is the constant crashes, it even locked up while trying to shut down.
So please please please tell me there is an answer, i so want to like it, as the concept is brill, i based buying this on my xperia play, i love the os, but honeycomb maybe the problem here!
Cheers.

blonqe said:
i have been an owner of the Transformer for just under a week, to be honest i think its a let down.
Internet experience is slow and jerky, flash takes a while to speed up. (Ive tried all browsers)
N64iod runs better and faster on my xperia play (which is a 1 core processor)
Some games seem to re-download every time i run them.
Cant play 720p with HW enabled with SW there slow.
Live wallpapers slow down the OS, my Xperia doesn't!
I could go on.
I know the OS is relatively new, but i cant buy that. The tablet cost me £415 with dock, If i was a normal customer, (the everyday user) i would take it back to the shop as i would think it was broke.
My last point is the constant crashes, it even locked up while trying to shut down.
So please please please tell me there is an answer, i so want to like it, as the concept is brill, i based buying this on my xperia play, i love the os, but honeycomb maybe the problem here!
Cheers.
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First of all, what android version and firmware build are you running and are you rooted? Secondly, have you performed any OTA updates since you bought your TF? Before I installed a custom rom on my TF, I myself have experienced serious lag and slow down due to multiple OTA updates. As with any pc based platform, its typically best to do a full wipe and perform a clean install to have it running at its peak. Before I took the route of a custom rom, i did a full wipe and fresh install and could immediately tell the difference in speed. So my suggestion is that you take that route first. Also, if you are interested in rooting and installing a custom rom, be advised that starting with the B70 revision, ASUS changed and locked down the bootloaders and they are currently unrootable at this time...which means you won't be able to install a custom rom. Find your S/N and if it starts with B70 or higher, then you won't be able to root at this time.

I have not had to many FCs, either stock or on Prime. Most times that I get any problems at all are in the stock browser, and usually thenjust a matter of slowness and the occasional "FC or Wait" prompt; particuarlly on more 'involved' web pages. Loading pages are also fairly sloow at times but still faster than my phone. My phone uses Opera for tremendous inprovement over it's stock browser.
Don't know about the 720p, haven't tried and don't know what program you used. Out of box is rather minimal audio/video playback as far as I noticed.
General performance wise, this thing beats a number of x86 systems I've had, espiecally while compiling C/C++ code.
If it's not something closer to the hardware, doing an nvflash to a custom rom might be worth trying but it can be an irk to deal with nuking everythiing you have stored, backups or no.

Internet experience is slow and jerky, flash takes a while to speed up. (Ive tried all browsers)
Latest Flash, Latest Browser (3.2.1) - runs good.
N64iod runs better and faster on my xperia play (which is a 1 core processor)
I have this issue, too - probably Tegra2 related (OCing may help?)
Some games seem to re-download every time i run them.
What games? Never noticed it.
Cant play 720p with HW enabled with SW there slow.
Get DicePlayer - best player around, supports HW acceleration and 720p is good as well (compared to others) - thanks to tegra2 plugins. Not free tough.
Live wallpapers slow down the OS, my Xperia doesn't!
Higher resoltioun and tegra2 issue AFAIK (might be wrong).

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Strange how some people experience things that most others don't. Weird. But anyway, you should return your TF. Get a proven product like an ipad 2.

goodintentions said:
Strange how some people experience things that most others don't. Weird. But anyway, you should return your TF. Get a proven product like an ipad 2.
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Ok troll. Your kind isn't welcome here unless you own a TF and can offer solutions other than being apple fan boy. This is not the thread you are looking for. You can go about your business. Move along...move along...

cheers for all the suggestions, i have got the latest updates and firmware.
i will check my serial when i get home.
for video playback ive been using mobo and mx player
games which redownload everytome are reckless getaway and the spaceship one which i cant remember the name lol its for tegra 2 and its free
if i decide on a custom rom i take it its purely personal preference? i fancy revolution for the ota tools
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You are correct, custom roms are always going to end up being preference. If you are able to root, the best way to start off this endeavor is to visit the posts of all 3 major roms for the TF in the development section. Find out what each rom offers, and make your decision based off of that. You can always try out each rom to see which one you like better.

My choices are limited now
checked my serial and its B70.
Looks like i'm stuck with stock until asus / google sort my issues.
One last question?
i here good things about opera, but i dont like the way it loads (waiting for the page to load before displaying) is there anyway to disable this feature?
Sometimes you just want to click on a link i dont really want the whole page to load!

Asus changed the bootloader not too long after they started making the B70 revisions. So there is a very small window of chance that your TF can be rooted. You can always try, but the chances are slim. I can't answer your Opera question...I don't use Opera.

blonqe said:
i here good things about opera, but i dont like the way it loads (waiting for the page to load before displaying) is there anyway to disable this feature?
Sometimes you just want to click on a link i dont really want the whole page to load!
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There is no option for this in Opera Mobile; I should know, it's what I use off the phone next to me .
Opera Mini is probably the same, but I would highly doubt it would support that feature even if it wasn't.

@blonqe: I posted something similar and goodintentions replied the same way... he has down syndrome, bless his heart...
Anyway, just accept you got suckered in to all this EEE Fad, iFad marketing BS. The Tegra 2 is a $5 PoS SoC... kind of like the PoS Atom CPU.
Tabs are fairly useless, but you wanted to waste some money
Oh if you disable flash in the stock browser it's speed is good.
I'm stuck with stock too ... REALLY FARKING pisses me off that I'm locked out of my own device.

cavsoldier19d said:
Ok troll. Your kind isn't welcome here unless you own a TF and can offer solutions other than being apple fan boy. This is not the thread you are looking for. You can go about your business. Move along...move along...
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Lol, this man has made the greatest mod to his TF!
But yeah, try running a custom rom (if you can) and see if your problems are still present. If so, contact Asus and maybe they will give you a replacement, could simple be some hardware malfunctions.

well i tried to root using the all in one tool, when trying to backup and root i kept getting an error cannot boot to pad or something like that, so for now ive had to admit defeat and wait for some bright spark to hopefully crack the new bootloader :-(
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Just wanted to bump my original thread to say after alot of complaing from me i can now say i am a proud owner of the Asus Transformer TF101.
Thanks to the fact i can now root and install custom roms.
After a few weeks of trial and error, i tried, revolver, Prime and KRAKD.
The latter for me was easily the best so so smooth, OC 1.504 i tried same on the other Roms, but with KRAKD i had no issues and its just so much quicker in my opinion.
One issue that exists in all the custom roms is that the xbox controller doesn't work until you change the kernel. Weird.
Brwosing is more of a joy and with ICS on its way my tablet experience is looking up!
Still tempted by windows 8 but we will wait and see.

Glad to hear everything worked out.
If you have a PS3, you should be able to use a Sigaxis controller using the Sigaxis application on the market as well.

Why do people not root?

What's the reason for people not rooting? There have been 1 click installers since July. I still see people posting like it's some wild thing only 1337 h4x0rs do when my grandma rooted her phone.
Or people weighing the benefits and debating whether or not to do it. It takes 15 minutes to unroot it back to stock(if you have a good sd card) so what's all the fuss about it? I've yet to see a brick made by anything other than physical damage. maybe a bad BIOS flash or firmware update would do it to computer parts but the tablets are pretty hard to brick.
inb4 "enjoying stock experience". buy an ipad for that.

pretty easy to brick actually, if I didn't have nvflash access to my device I would have bricked my device half a dozen times by now. I've also bricked my Galaxy Tab 7" twice now.

Also, starting with some B70s, there was no one click for quite some time, until Razorclaw

Personally, I haven't had much of a reason to root mine. I've had a rooted G1 and currently use a rooted Nexus S.. only because I knew I could make it better by flashing a custom ROM. The Transformer runs well enough for me out of the box.

I like my devices rooted, but I can understand if people don't want to root. There are plenty of threads that start out "Help, I tried to root, but now I'm screwed!" It's certainly not rocket science, but there is a risk and I can understand if some people don't want to take that risk with their tablet, time, or money.
I would guess that some people don't want to follow every thread here on XDA to figure out if Nachoroot will root the .21 firmware that was rooted with Razorclaw on the .19 firmware, but borked by the OTA. I'm not even sure what the answer to that is?
Lastly, maybe people actually use their tablets as tablets?? I thought they were portable Android! playgrounds where the trick to the puzzle was to root the OTA before you're forced to flash it. I enjoy my tablet, but the IT guy at work asks me why I need to root it and I can't come up with a great reason why other than I can.

hkt03 said:
Personally, I haven't had much of a reason to root mine. I've had a rooted G1 and currently use a rooted Nexus S.. only because I knew I could make it better by flashing a custom ROM. The Transformer runs well enough for me out of the box.
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I agree. My phone is rooted and running a rom pretty much because out of the box, it was down right horrible to use (and on most occasions I love having the latest and the greatest) .
With my Transformer, speed has never been an issue. Asus has done a great job with Honeycomb for the TF101. It never feels slow or laggy.
I can say, however, that if there was a sure-fire way to recover from a brick on SBKv2 devices (nvflash), I would experiment a little more with custom roms.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using XDA App

But for voodoo control plus I could live without root. Don't get me wrong I love all the goodies it brings like titanium backup pro and so on; but essentially because no manufacturer to date has properly implemented in hardware and software the hardware audio capabilities of any android device, I always buy a wolfson based voodoo supported device and seek root.
(Please no one make any claims about audio particularly in that HTC beats software based bollocks they are ripping people off with!).
The question of why Tf101 users aren't rooting is different. Look at the ilk or breeding of TF101 users in xda as opposed (for arguments sake) to those nexus s users here. By comparison the TF101 users are greener than the grass in Ireland.
But I believe it comes from this :
The vast majority of mobile phone owners will use their phones and be done with it.
Tablet owners on the other hand, no matter how uber noob will be more likely to congregate to gather advice and solutions as if we are honest - it ain't no iPad.
This in mind I fully understand the amount of totally over excited kids it seems are hanging around salivating awaiting the official ICS.
I use my tf101 for a multitude of things. Only really my love of music needs root. I'm down with the situation, all is cool.
Sent from my Nexus S using xda premium

I don't think I could live without AdFree.

Why not to root? I don't understand either!
I daily use the rooted part of my transformer:
* Anyconnect to get on the vpn network
* Hidebar to hide the bottom systembar
* chroot to get to a Debian image on it
* modified hosts to limit ads

ppirate said:
Why not to root? I don't understand either!
I daily use the rooted part of my transformer:
* Anyconnect to get on the vpn network
* Hidebar to hide the bottom systembar
* chroot to get to a Debian image on it
* modified hosts to limit ads
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+1 i agree
weekly basis for me
script manager / always trying scripts n tweaks
root explorer /system etc always playing round
titanium backup (update my backup daily)
ADW.ex as a system app and dolphin browser hd that required root right
upd8r, vodoo, systune, ttorrent, my masses of emulators
logcats , tools, etc
I use root everyday and love it !!
Sent from my tf Enigmatic V2 beta 1.65Ghz Panda.test cust kernel settings

ppirate said:
Why not to root? I don't understand either!
I daily use the rooted part of my transformer:
* Anyconnect to get on the vpn network
* Hidebar to hide the bottom systembar
* chroot to get to a Debian image on it
* modified hosts to limit ads
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Not everyone needs VPN.
Not everyone needs to hide the bottom systembar.
Not everione wants a Debian image in it
Not everyone is that bothered with the few ads they might bump into.
Really, the kind of people who think that rooting the device is a MUST seem just like the bunch of Android fanboys that have to scream at people buying Apple products. "It's better! Don't use that!"
People have to realize that some times there's just no particular reason for certain things, and rooting is one of them. There's just no particular reason for some people.
Did I rooted my device? Yes.
Have I been using it for many purposes requiring root? Not quite, even though I will.
The reason why I required root was for certain things like using a custom ROM that would allow me to, coupled with the dock, use a 3G dongle and being able to have a SSH tunnel to make secure use of certain open networks.
But beyond that I don't have that much use to it.
Some people simply don't need to "play around", or access parts of their device that they don't need if they aren't rooted at all.
The TF is a functional device.
Android is a customizable and open OS.
Some people are plain happy with it, and root wouldn't give them anything more.

I'm glad to find this thread. I currently use a rooted hd2 and I have a tf101 and I have been unable to decide weather to root or not.
What are the benefits of rooting this device?
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it's the same benefit as you get with rooting your phone... wifikill is a great app. overclocking is a huge feature. I'm at 1.7GHz. stock is 1GHz.
root lets me have control of everything. I uninstalled gmail because it is useless to me, and instead I use the ICS email app.

kylew1212 said:
I'm glad to find this thread. I currently use a rooted hd2 and I have a tf101 and I have been unable to decide weather to root or not.
What are the benefits of rooting this device?
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read first page and thats just a few of the benefits
but i agree its a choice that everyone should have and not all people like root
but for the people that are debating it thats enough for me to pipe in and say do it!!
Sent from my tf Enigmatic V2 beta 1.65Ghz Panda.test cust kernel settings

Some people either just don't know about rooting and what it provides, while some people know the benefits but don't wish to seek them just because they don't want to take a risk, even a slim one.

All my phones are rooted but I have no desire to root my TF.
I don't have to remove anything off I don't use. If I didn't know it was required to own an Android device you had to root it. It must be something wrong with me.

Wolfson DAC with Voodoo Control Plus app
wildestpixel said:
But for voodoo control plus I could live without root. Don't get me wrong I love all the goodies it brings like titanium backup pro and so on; but essentially because no manufacturer to date has properly implemented in hardware and software the hardware audio capabilities of any android device, I always buy a wolfson based voodoo supported device and seek root.
(Please no one make any claims about audio particularly in that HTC beats software based bollocks they are ripping people off with!).
The question of why Tf101 users aren't rooting is different. Look at the ilk or breeding of TF101 users in xda as opposed (for arguments sake) to those nexus s users here. By comparison the TF101 users are greener than the grass in Ireland.
But I believe it comes from this :
The vast majority of mobile phone owners will use their phones and be done with it.
Tablet owners on the other hand, no matter how uber noob will be more likely to congregate to gather advice and solutions as if we are honest - it ain't no iPad.
This in mind I fully understand the amount of totally over excited kids it seems are hanging around salivating awaiting the official ICS.
I use my tf101 for a multitude of things. Only really my love of music needs root. I'm down with the situation, all is cool.
Sent from my Nexus S using xda premium
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Voodoo Control Plus on both my Asus TF101 and Nexus S is a tremendous enhancement that I couldn't replace. You have to really hear it once to fully understand. This is also the first app I have bought for the android OS.
For other tools (backups, logs, network tools...), root is really usefull, but for an audiophile, it's a necessity (the only alternative is another device in the pocket, as the Cowon J3 I still use, or a portable headphone amp).

All my devices have been rooted out of choice. I could just as easily be unrooted and still be happy. Current best reason I have is Titanium Backup; ).
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Tapatalk

Well, everything I own is rooted, but my new Galaxy Nexus lost ability to write to internal memory after two weeks. I'm sure it was an electronic failure, but since it was rooted you can't get it returned under warranty and you couldn't unroot it cause you couldn't write to the memory. Without the insurance that would been a $750 problem.
Sent from my old Incredible while awaiting replacement Galaxy Nexus

ive always rooted just because i like to tinker and like the results that can be had. i too must have voodoo its just night and day differences. i was stuck stock on the tf101 for a couple months waiting for razorclaw and didnt have too many complaints other than a little laggy and a few fc's here and there. then once rooted running a custom rom oc'ed and tweaked, there was just no going back . stoch honeycomb is fine but modded honeycomb is just slick. i am very thoughtful of bricking and dont go flashing every new thing out there cuz there isnt a way to unbrick my sbkv2 device, but i couldnt go back to stock it would be completely a downgrade.
of course this is all preference and opinion.

Performance and Alternate Firmwares

Folks,
My TF700, along with a few others I've seen post here, has been increasingly sluggish under JB compared to ICS, regardless of how many cold boots and complete resets are performed. In addition, I get frequent white screen crashes and complete reboots that happen under heavy use.
So, with that said, here are my questions from those of you with some experience:
1. Should we expect an update from the manufacturer that will address all of this within a short (month?) period of time?
2. Since it's official that CM will provide an "official" port to the TF700, how long does it usually take them to provide a fairly feature rich one (GPS, Microphone, etc support unlike the unofficial port in the development forums)?
3. If both #1 & #2 are >1 month, can you recommend a solution that provides all tablet features? The other JB builds I saw do not provide full features from what I could see, correct?
Thank you for any answers you can provide.

If you are unlocked, you can always downgrade to ICS .30, or a custom Rom like cleanrom.

spinaldex said:
Folks,
My TF700, along with a few others I've seen post here, has been increasingly sluggish under JB compared to ICS, regardless of how many cold boots and complete resets are performed. In addition, I get frequent white screen crashes and complete reboots that happen under heavy use.
So, with that said, here are my questions from those of you with some experience:
1. Should we expect an update from the manufacturer that will address all of this within a short (month?) period of time?
2. Since it's official that CM will provide an "official" port to the TF700, how long does it usually take them to provide a fairly feature rich one (GPS, Microphone, etc support unlike the unofficial port in the development forums)?
3. If both #1 & #2 are >1 month, can you recommend a solution that provides all tablet features? The other JB builds I saw do not provide full features from what I could see, correct?
Thank you for any answers you can provide.
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1. ASUS are not quick. Given past performance I don't think there is a chance of seeing an update that will successfully deal with the sluggishness issues.
2. I don't think it will be too long until the first official CM10 builds are released (days/weeks rather than weeks/months). Looking at where they are in development at present I expect the initial releases to be pretty complete. However, until they are released and tested you never know what problems and bugs may be encountered.
3. Your best bet at the moment is CleanROM - its the stock rom with all the bloat removed and some other tweaks to improve performance. Having tried the stock JB release and CleanROM I will say that the performance of CleanROM is way better.

Reboots, white screens and freezes are not normal for this or any tablet.
Firmwares and roms won't fix this. Send it back and get one that functions properly.

sbdags said:
Reboots, white screens and freezes are not normal for this or any tablet.
Firmwares and roms won't fix this. Send it back and get one that functions properly.
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actually, reboots and freezes are quite normal. There have been several posts about it since this device launched. I was a victim of this as well. Made me want to get rid of it. but after rooting and installing cleanrom, i have not had any issues.
Yes, the rom gets rid of the bloat, but with the new update, you have the option of keeping the bloat that you may want. I highly recommend rooting and installing this rom. It will feel like you purchased a new device.

timrock said:
actually, reboots and freezes are quite normal. There have been several posts about it since this device launched. I was a victim of this as well. Made me want to get rid of it. but after rooting and installing cleanrom, i have not had any issues.
Yes, the rom gets rid of the bloat, but with the new update, you have the option of keeping the bloat that you may want. I highly recommend rooting and installing this rom. It will feel like you purchased a new device.
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Your experience is just one data point and all the other posts combined here are just an incredibly small subset of the entire install base, so, no, just because you experienced it does not make it "normal". IMHO, regular reboots and freezes are NOT normal in a properly functioning TF running compatible software (some android apps do suck and/or are not compatible with new OS versions).
So, in spite of your experience, I personally would NEVER recommend doing something that will permanently void the warranty and completely eliminate the possibility of returning it if the root cause is a hardware problem. Instead, I'd return it, if the new one does it too switch brands.
I'm glad for your happiness with the updated ROM but an unlock on an in warranty tablet that is behaving badly is fundamentally bad advice, IMHO.

zenaxe said:
Your experience is just one data point and all the other posts combined here are just an incredibly small subset of the entire install base, so, no, just because you experienced it does not make it "normal". IMHO, regular reboots and freezes are NOT normal in a properly functioning TF running compatible software (some android apps do suck and/or are not compatible with new OS versions).
So, in spite of your experience, I personally would NEVER recommend doing something that will permanently void the warranty and completely eliminate the possibility of returning it if the root cause is a hardware problem. Instead, I'd return it, if the new one does it too switch brands.
I'm glad for your happiness with the updated ROM but an unlock on an in warranty tablet that is behaving badly is fundamentally bad advice, IMHO.
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well xda is not the only website where people talk about electronics. I have seen a great number of complaints about this device. And i agree, there could be a very large number of people out there who are happy with their devices and don't have these issues. But it still remains, there are issues.
I can suggest/recommend people to root/unlock their devices, whether they do it or not, thats totally up to them. Before doing so, they should know the risk involved.

I'll be completely honest on how I feel about the TF700. Before the JB update, the tablet was slow. After the JB update, the tablet was still slow! I love the concept behind the TF700, and it's a beautiful tablet. But, it really does just suck because of its I/O.
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R0CKSTAR3N3RGY said:
I'll be completely honest on how I feel about the TF700. Before the JB update, the tablet was slow. After the JB update, the tablet was still slow! I love the concept behind the TF700, and it's a beautiful tablet. But, it really does just suck because of its I/O.
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I really must just be lucky because I honestly have not experienced any of the lag or crashes that other people report. Yeah, transfer speed over USB is unusually slow, but it's still better than what USB 1.1 was
Honestly, from all that I've read, this tab is hit or miss. You will either have an absolute dream machine or you will have a nightmare. If you are #1, congrats and have fun with this beast. If you are #2 and it's too late to return it, try out all the roms and see which you like best. Even though the custom roms are fun on this tablet, I return time after time to just plain ol' rooted de-odexed stock and remove the bloat myself. This has consistently given me the best overall results

It sounds closed minded, but I don't think it's hit or miss. The I/O issue has run in the Transformer line up from the beginning. I was foolish to believe they would get it under control by the TF700. I love the tablet, I do, but its I/O is undeniably terrible. There's times when it runs flawless for me. But there other times where I can't even stand to use it. I haven't had a single freeze or reboot on JB, Just times of slow performance. If this thing had a better I/O, it would be the best damn tablet ever.
I'm really scared for the Vivo tab, it might have an I/O issue too. God forbid you have an I/O issue with Windows....
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Not only is the i/o bad (usually code for slow random read/write), but the sequential read is also horrendous. It takes forever for this tablet to load.
The solution would be more ram or to mount the device on an external microsd with better performance.
That being said the infinitys all weve got for fhd tablets until the bew samsung nexus fhd tablet cominf out next year (which will probably be gimped because google wont allow external storage on nexus devices).
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I never had any problems with my tablet on a stock firmware (latest JB). What annoyed me very much is the slugish performance.
Navigation between screens and applications is annoying. I often use google reader and adobe acrobat to read PDFs, and they were so bad.
I do also have samsung galaxy s3 which flies comparing to TF700. My gf has ipad3 which is uber fast too.
So, I've decided to try out CleanRom and so far it's good. It's definitely faster and more smooth.

I have my tablet now 3 weeks. After byuing it I was 4 days on ICS and then got the update to JB.
The speed difference is immense and I have no sluggishness at all.
Only thing I have is that 1 time it wouldn't come out of deep sleep (had to reboot) and had 1 spontaneous reboot since then.
Froze many bloat apps and that gave the tablet some air to breathe RAM wise.
But stock browser is very fast and last week I could compare it to an Ipad3 and speed is quite the same. It depends more on the Wifi speed available.
Opening apps is instantly and fast so no complaints here.
Strange that the experience of some users is totally different.
But let's say there are now 1 million Infinity's sold, a very minority have probs because (proven) people who have complaints will look for it on the internet and will start complaining there also.
But who has no probs will not come here, for sure the majority of users.
So do not magnify the probs more than needed and do not generalize them.
But for sure complain to ASUS asking for a solution depending of the prob by either replacing the defective unit or come quickly with an software update.
Just my 2c