i have been an owner of the Transformer for just under a week, to be honest i think its a let down.
Internet experience is slow and jerky, flash takes a while to speed up. (Ive tried all browsers)
N64iod runs better and faster on my xperia play (which is a 1 core processor)
Some games seem to re-download every time i run them.
Cant play 720p with HW enabled with SW there slow.
Live wallpapers slow down the OS, my Xperia doesn't!
I could go on.
I know the OS is relatively new, but i cant buy that. The tablet cost me £415 with dock, If i was a normal customer, (the everyday user) i would take it back to the shop as i would think it was broke.
My last point is the constant crashes, it even locked up while trying to shut down.
So please please please tell me there is an answer, i so want to like it, as the concept is brill, i based buying this on my xperia play, i love the os, but honeycomb maybe the problem here!
Cheers.
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i have been an owner of the Transformer for just under a week, to be honest i think its a let down.
Internet experience is slow and jerky, flash takes a while to speed up. (Ive tried all browsers)
N64iod runs better and faster on my xperia play (which is a 1 core processor)
Some games seem to re-download every time i run them.
Cant play 720p with HW enabled with SW there slow.
Live wallpapers slow down the OS, my Xperia doesn't!
I could go on.
I know the OS is relatively new, but i cant buy that. The tablet cost me £415 with dock, If i was a normal customer, (the everyday user) i would take it back to the shop as i would think it was broke.
My last point is the constant crashes, it even locked up while trying to shut down.
So please please please tell me there is an answer, i so want to like it, as the concept is brill, i based buying this on my xperia play, i love the os, but honeycomb maybe the problem here!
Cheers.
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First of all, what android version and firmware build are you running and are you rooted? Secondly, have you performed any OTA updates since you bought your TF? Before I installed a custom rom on my TF, I myself have experienced serious lag and slow down due to multiple OTA updates. As with any pc based platform, its typically best to do a full wipe and perform a clean install to have it running at its peak. Before I took the route of a custom rom, i did a full wipe and fresh install and could immediately tell the difference in speed. So my suggestion is that you take that route first. Also, if you are interested in rooting and installing a custom rom, be advised that starting with the B70 revision, ASUS changed and locked down the bootloaders and they are currently unrootable at this time...which means you won't be able to install a custom rom. Find your S/N and if it starts with B70 or higher, then you won't be able to root at this time.
I have not had to many FCs, either stock or on Prime. Most times that I get any problems at all are in the stock browser, and usually thenjust a matter of slowness and the occasional "FC or Wait" prompt; particuarlly on more 'involved' web pages. Loading pages are also fairly sloow at times but still faster than my phone. My phone uses Opera for tremendous inprovement over it's stock browser.
Don't know about the 720p, haven't tried and don't know what program you used. Out of box is rather minimal audio/video playback as far as I noticed.
General performance wise, this thing beats a number of x86 systems I've had, espiecally while compiling C/C++ code.
If it's not something closer to the hardware, doing an nvflash to a custom rom might be worth trying but it can be an irk to deal with nuking everythiing you have stored, backups or no.
Internet experience is slow and jerky, flash takes a while to speed up. (Ive tried all browsers)
Latest Flash, Latest Browser (3.2.1) - runs good.
N64iod runs better and faster on my xperia play (which is a 1 core processor)
I have this issue, too - probably Tegra2 related (OCing may help?)
Some games seem to re-download every time i run them.
What games? Never noticed it.
Cant play 720p with HW enabled with SW there slow.
Get DicePlayer - best player around, supports HW acceleration and 720p is good as well (compared to others) - thanks to tegra2 plugins. Not free tough.
Live wallpapers slow down the OS, my Xperia doesn't!
Higher resoltioun and tegra2 issue AFAIK (might be wrong).
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Strange how some people experience things that most others don't. Weird. But anyway, you should return your TF. Get a proven product like an ipad 2.
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Strange how some people experience things that most others don't. Weird. But anyway, you should return your TF. Get a proven product like an ipad 2.
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Ok troll. Your kind isn't welcome here unless you own a TF and can offer solutions other than being apple fan boy. This is not the thread you are looking for. You can go about your business. Move along...move along...
cheers for all the suggestions, i have got the latest updates and firmware.
i will check my serial when i get home.
for video playback ive been using mobo and mx player
games which redownload everytome are reckless getaway and the spaceship one which i cant remember the name lol its for tegra 2 and its free
if i decide on a custom rom i take it its purely personal preference? i fancy revolution for the ota tools
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You are correct, custom roms are always going to end up being preference. If you are able to root, the best way to start off this endeavor is to visit the posts of all 3 major roms for the TF in the development section. Find out what each rom offers, and make your decision based off of that. You can always try out each rom to see which one you like better.
My choices are limited now
checked my serial and its B70.
Looks like i'm stuck with stock until asus / google sort my issues.
One last question?
i here good things about opera, but i dont like the way it loads (waiting for the page to load before displaying) is there anyway to disable this feature?
Sometimes you just want to click on a link i dont really want the whole page to load!
Asus changed the bootloader not too long after they started making the B70 revisions. So there is a very small window of chance that your TF can be rooted. You can always try, but the chances are slim. I can't answer your Opera question...I don't use Opera.
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i here good things about opera, but i dont like the way it loads (waiting for the page to load before displaying) is there anyway to disable this feature?
Sometimes you just want to click on a link i dont really want the whole page to load!
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There is no option for this in Opera Mobile; I should know, it's what I use off the phone next to me .
Opera Mini is probably the same, but I would highly doubt it would support that feature even if it wasn't.
@blonqe: I posted something similar and goodintentions replied the same way... he has down syndrome, bless his heart...
Anyway, just accept you got suckered in to all this EEE Fad, iFad marketing BS. The Tegra 2 is a $5 PoS SoC... kind of like the PoS Atom CPU.
Tabs are fairly useless, but you wanted to waste some money
Oh if you disable flash in the stock browser it's speed is good.
I'm stuck with stock too ... REALLY FARKING pisses me off that I'm locked out of my own device.
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Ok troll. Your kind isn't welcome here unless you own a TF and can offer solutions other than being apple fan boy. This is not the thread you are looking for. You can go about your business. Move along...move along...
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Lol, this man has made the greatest mod to his TF!
But yeah, try running a custom rom (if you can) and see if your problems are still present. If so, contact Asus and maybe they will give you a replacement, could simple be some hardware malfunctions.
well i tried to root using the all in one tool, when trying to backup and root i kept getting an error cannot boot to pad or something like that, so for now ive had to admit defeat and wait for some bright spark to hopefully crack the new bootloader :-(
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Just wanted to bump my original thread to say after alot of complaing from me i can now say i am a proud owner of the Asus Transformer TF101.
Thanks to the fact i can now root and install custom roms.
After a few weeks of trial and error, i tried, revolver, Prime and KRAKD.
The latter for me was easily the best so so smooth, OC 1.504 i tried same on the other Roms, but with KRAKD i had no issues and its just so much quicker in my opinion.
One issue that exists in all the custom roms is that the xbox controller doesn't work until you change the kernel. Weird.
Brwosing is more of a joy and with ICS on its way my tablet experience is looking up!
Still tempted by windows 8 but we will wait and see.
Glad to hear everything worked out.
If you have a PS3, you should be able to use a Sigaxis controller using the Sigaxis application on the market as well.
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Youtube through the actual site plays well (if you have Flash, of course), but the actual app terrible and usable.
Is the version in TnT also in the stock FW? Considering the device does not play Flash with stock FW, a poorly working Youtube client app will not exactly help perception of Flash being missing.
I wish my you tube app would play poorly, mine won't even open at all.
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What is the advantage of using the app over the website? Why not just use the website?
not much of an advantage really I just like to have as much working as possible. also I like the widget
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I wish my you tube app would play poorly, mine won't even open at all.
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Download the new gapps from the forum here: http://www.multiupload.com/VFDQ8Q4NC0
Youtube in that will work.
rothnic said:
Download the new gapps from the forum here: http://www.multiupload.com/VFDQ8Q4NC0
Youtube in that will work.
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It's still choppy.
yea youtube was extremely choppy. My G1 played YouTube better. I wonder what the issue is. Could it be the Tegra2. I doubt it. lol
Finally youtube app works for me. I wiped data/cache and dalvik cache then installed lite 2.0 and the app works now.
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What is the advantage of using the app over the website? Why not just use the website?
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Point is people that buy the device and use stock do not have Flash or a Youtube client. The rate of returns due to Youtube, G sensor, Angry Birds and the crapular market effort will be epic.
My guess is 70% returns by January 1, unless a Flash, Youtube, Angry Birds and market fix is in the 12/19 update.
Even if they fix it, people testing the device prior to that date will return in droves.
Surely VS is not this clueless to expect a poorly working Youtube app, G sensor messed up, biggest download game ever (for now) not working and the paid market process to not result in higher than high returns.
I am not getting this at all, so maybe I am the one who is clueless
They needed to make those things right in THIS update.
I agree Rushless. Supposedly Viewsonic reads this website and I hope they do. There a couple things happening here. I am ONLY buying 2 of these tablets because of the rom availability. If I was forced to keep this in it's stock form I would be buying Archos 101s. There is some speculation that TapNTap's new license agreement will stop people from producing roms. If TapNTap or Viewsonic decides to start enforcing that, it would be a huge downfall of this device.
In stock for this thing is horrible. The non-modding community will all buy Archos 101a or a 7" tab. The hardware on this is the best hardware available at this time. The software sucks in stock form and the non-modders will be returning it in mass. Good for us. We can buy them cheap, update the roms and sell them on ebay!
Anyway, Viewsonic are you listening? Do something about this software. This is NOT a device for the masses and you will lose marketshare to Archos because of it. However, us modders love it, as long as you don't stop us from modding.
Cache issues seem to be the thing that some have pointed to. The app works fine after I initially wipe my device / create a new mod. But after a short time it gets all choppy. Something strange is going on.
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I agree Rushless. Supposedly Viewsonic reads this website and I hope they do. There a couple things happening here. I am ONLY buying 2 of these tablets because of the rom availability. If I was forced to keep this in it's stock form I would be buying Archos 101s. There is some speculation that TapNTap's new license agreement will stop people from producing roms. If TapNTap or Viewsonic decides to start enforcing that, it would be a huge downfall of this device.
In stock for this thing is horrible. The non-modding community will all buy Archos 101a or a 7" tab. The hardware on this is the best hardware available at this time. The software sucks in stock form and the non-modders will be returning it in mass. Good for us. We can buy them cheap, update the roms and sell them on ebay!
Anyway, Viewsonic are you listening? Do something about this software. This is NOT a device for the masses and you will lose marketshare to Archos because of it. However, us modders love it, as long as you don't stop us from modding.
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TapnTap is simple to take care of: Get rid of it! The Tap interface is HURTING the device in performance and sales, not helping.
After experiencing the power and speed of Tegra 2 and the game performance for TigerMAME and PSX (NOT the 1.7 version), I can never go to a 3630 or lower chipset now.
Gtablet or another Tegra 2 without TapnTap will be the way to go, IMO.
All VS has to do is release a plain 2.2 with their mapping and basic UI relationship to their hardware. I wonder who talked them into this horrible interface? Must be a friend or relative for someone in Viewsonic
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The friend or relative angle kind of makes sense, since nothing else really does.
Roebeet needs to freelance for VS and get this done right!
Let's just hope these EULA concerns subside and we still get great roms from Roebeet. All these EULA concerns today has me worried development on these forums will come to a screeching halt! Then this device is useless to me. Well I downloaded TnT Lite 2.0, so even if it does stop. I have the rom! LOL!
Yeah mines choppy too. Video quality isnt the best. Maybe lack of resolution support. Laggy as hell somtimes too. Some vids are fine. Just not super clear like on phones.
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Yeah mines choppy too. Video quality isnt the best. Maybe lack of resolution support. Laggy as hell somtimes too. Some vids are fine. Just not super clear like on phones.
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I confirmed again afger loading tnt 2.0 that it works fine immediatly after clearing dalvik cache
Guys try this download overclockwidget from market, user defined frequency 1000000 , save Max 1000000 min 500000 then try YouTube app runs smooth for me I personally think the YouTube app sets the CPU speed to 200 lol
installed overclockwidget and set to suggested settings and still had same amount of lag. Wiped Dalvik cache and tried again...worked perfect! Seems like we need to figure out why the dalvik cache needs to keep being wiped to make this work.
On a related note, i've noticed that using the movies app by flixter, you cannot watch the movie trailers....any ideas? video type not currently supported??
I haven't flashed to any Tom's yet, but this seems to be the most popular. Why is that? I looked at the change log and I don't understand what I would be gaining I guess.
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same too me, I tried it over 3.1, what I experienced:
- browser little bit slower
- more SOD
- nothing real extra feature
I have to use a custom rom for a couple of reasons:
1) My stock rom is the Chinese verison, which means no google apps or google sync. Without google, it's just not android.
2) I need the Chinese input methods. I would normally switch to the USA stock rom, but it doesn't have Chinese input. Prime does/did, Chinese handwriting input is MIA, but I'll sure it will be taken care of.
I choose to use a custom rom for these reasons:
3) I don't like excess crap on my computer. I can modify a custom rom before I install it, mostly just removing apps that I will never use.
4) Root! I love freedom on my computer. Root lets me do things. All kinds of neat things: block ads, increase speed on sd card, delete/modify system apps and directories, and lots more. Look into it, it is fun.
5) Overclock. Prime doesn't have it, but you can add a kernal that does. I currently don't overclock, but as the Tegra 2 ages, i will overclock it. I'm specifically waiting for a rom with a high GPU overclock. There is one out there that currently does have a minor GPU overclock.
6) Clockwork Recovery. Backup, restore, switch roms, clear cache and more.
Why I choose Prime:
7) Dock battery meter in the taskbar.
8) Reboot/recovery options for power button.
After looking through the current selection of roms available, I choose Prime. But I keep my eye on revolver and Clemsyn.
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I haven't flashed to any Tom's yet, but this seems to be the most popular. Why is that? I looked at the change log and I don't understand what I would be gaining I guess.
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How do you not? OP clearly states that there are optimizations made to increase load times etc etc.
No, op states "better user experience" which is very vague. Also I'm not having any slow load times, everything is pretty zippy.
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I haven't flashed to any Tom's yet, but this seems to be the most popular. Why is that? I looked at the change log and I don't understand what I would be gaining I guess.
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Last time I flashed a Tom he punched me in the face...
One reason I haven't seen mentioned would also be themes, but it is still early in the game, there are few options. Custom Roms are generally just optimized better, though the Transformer doesn't have nearly the bloat some Android devices have making them almost essential...
Honestly once you learn, it is such an easy process that flashing different roms/kernels and trying them is the only real way to know what is best for you and your usage.
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No, op states "better user experience" which is very vague. Also I'm not having any slow load times, everything is pretty zippy.
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Then why are you worrying about ROMs? It's obvious you want some of that Baconcomb so just get it already.
Honestly, I don't know why people ever need to "beg" you to try something. If you're happy with what you got already, then be happy.
"If it isn't broken, don't fix it"
If you're curious, then just do it... because all in honesty. One person's opinion is only a opinion. The only way you're going to know if it's worth it is from YOUR personal experience. I can personally say that, PRIME 1.6 and root is good and its worth it.
If you don't want to take my word for it, then don't. I'm not going to beg you to do it.
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Then why are you worrying about ROMs? It's obvious you want some of that Baconcomb so just get it already.
Honestly, I don't know why people ever need to "beg" you to try something. If you're happy with what you got already, then be happy.
"If it isn't broken, don't fix it"
If you're curious, then just do it... because all in honesty. One person's opinion is only a opinion. The only way you're going to know if it's worth it is from YOUR personal experience. I can personally say that, PRIME 1.6 and root is good and its worth it.
If you don't want to take my word for it, then don't. I'm not going to beg you to do it.
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The reason im asking is so i dont miss out on anything and obviously im looking for empiracle data to help me understand any performance benefits.
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Then why are you worrying about ROMs? It's obvious you want some of that Baconcomb so just get it already.
Honestly, I don't know why people ever need to "beg" you to try something. If you're happy with what you got already, then be happy.
"If it isn't broken, don't fix it"
If you're curious, then just do it... because all in honesty. One person's opinion is only a opinion. The only way you're going to know if it's worth it is from YOUR personal experience. I can personally say that, PRIME 1.6 and root is good and its worth it.
If you don't want to take my word for it, then don't. I'm not going to beg you to do it.
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Wow...
He asked what was the difference between stock and Prime, and you went off in another direction. He wasn't asking to be "begged" into using Prime nor asking for others to convince him into using Prime at all.
Anyways, I know Prime has a few optimizations, but I don't know if it brings any substantial changes. There's a link to download the power/recovery mod, so I suppose it could be applied to any ROM including rooted stock.
One reason I would like to root my tf101 is to be able to use a USB dongle. But I am waiting for 3.2 to come out before since I just got my tf101.
The stock version is pretty good actually. No major complaints so far.
I hav ebeen using Prime for a while but ASUS stock version is definitely quite good. Even more so for lack of garbageware that so plagues the mobile phones...
Yea I guess I'm in the same camp. I haven't seen a compelling reason to move to a different ROM versus rooted stock. There are too many posts that seem to lead users to believe that a different ROM is the same as root. Remember you can root the stock ROM. The OP is asking what user experience enhancements make Prime (or any other ROM) compelling.
If you read changelog second post it will tell you exactly what's new in the ROM. Many changes are only useful for experienced linux users, but many others are useful for everyone. The nice thing about roms is that most of the things and tweaks are already done for you. If you don't need/care about those changes then there is no point for you to reflash.
Which BXX mod did you get ?
I'm curious because I'm thinking of picking up one of these today ( the guy at Orifice Depot tried to get me to buy an Iconia, but that thing doesn't have anywhere near the support the TF is getting...)....?
Manufacturer's (ASUS included) have to be very careful about their ROM releases so they are thoroughly tested and ready to release to the general public. Consequently they are slower to release updates (i.e. NVidia updates, etc.). Custom ROMs generally consolidate the best and latest releases from various manufacturer's into the most cuttest edge versions you can possibly be running. As you'll notice this can also mean more lock-ups and weird issues since you are getting just-available changes. So if you prefer max stability, stick with the manufacturer's updates. For many of us part of the fun of owning an Android tablet is the rapid pace that custom ROMs are put out and the interesting/quirky things they bring us.
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I'm curious because I'm thinking of picking up one of these today ( the guy at Orifice Depot tried to get me to buy an Iconia, but that thing doesn't have anywhere near the support the TF is getting...)....?
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I got a B60 TF and a B60 dock from my local OD this past weekend (Denver, CO).
Prime Vs Stock
Reason why I flashed the Prime Rom. With Prime and a netflix patch I'm able to stream netflix movie. Also now Adhoc connections work. I can Wifi tehther my TF101 with my Driod using the adhoc connection. I can now easily reboot into recovery prior to this going into recovery was a bit tricky. This was not possible even with HC 3.2. Also I don't have to worry about losing root becuase of an OTA update.
I am actually a flashaholic when it comes to flashing roms on my phone. But so far, I haven't come across any compelling reasons to flash custom roms on my transformer. The need to flash roms on phones offer benefits that are non existant on a tablet. For instance, one major reason to flash custom roms on phones is to enable free wifi tethering, which obviously does not apply here. Another reason, as stated above is to remove bloatware. The transformer doesn't really have that. And yet another reason is to be able to update to the latest Android version before the official release. Correct me if i'm wrong but when I looked, the 3.2 update came out officially before any transformer custom roms had it. There are a couple more minor customizations options that I'm not seeing yet being offered by the transformer roms. I am fully aware of the speed enhancements and optimizations that custom roms offer, but considering the custom roms for the transformer are still relatively new (no disrespect or discredit to the devs for their hard work), and considering that even still now, the rooting and flashing methods keep getting outdated and changed, it's too early in this ballgame for me to flash.
I've been lurking the forums here now for a month and finally pulled the trigger, my TF get's here monday.
I have yet to see any reason to flash a custom rom or even root at this point. I'll be rooting it just to say it's rooted and just for a couple of root only programs I have. The custom roms don't really bring anything to the table that this tablet doesn't have. it has the newest version of android with all the bells and whistles. I'm not going to be overclocking. I understand netflix is big for some people, but, from what I have read flashing the fix breaks some video playback. I'm ok to wait for the official netflix patch. A 32gb MicroSD and the 16gb on board space is plenty to store movies on for travel etc. I also have a server I run at home that will stream my entire movie,. TV, and music collections directly to me.
Having the best of the best and the most up to date version of android does have it's perks
Hello people.
I got my infinity 64gb from amazon on Wednesday. So far, i have mix feelings...
The screen is beautiful, no doubt. But, the lag just disappoints. While loading pages, using stock browser btw, it hangs for a couple of seconds. It is somewhat acceptable, but i get the annoying "not responding message, wait or close app" from android.
I really have mix feelings, thinking i might have a lemon and might exchange it for a new 1.
Anyone having the same experience with their infinity? Getting lots of waits or any hang ups with your infinity?
If anyone thinks this is related to that i//o issues (i really don't exactly know how that affects the tablet besides writing and reading memory cards). Please share your thoughts
For the specs, i would think this is my so long waited ipad killa!!! Or maybe go for the acer 700. Maybe i was expecting too much?
chino145 said:
Hello people.
I got my infinity 64gb from amazon on Wednesday. So far, i have mix feelings...
The screen is beautiful, no doubt. But, the lag just disappoints. While loading pages, using stock browser btw, it hangs for a couple of seconds. It is somewhat acceptable, but i get the annoying "not responding message, wait or close app" from android.
I really have mix feelings, thinking i might have a lemon and might exchange it for a new 1.
Anyone having the same experience with their infinity? Getting lots of waits or any hang ups with your infinity?
If anyone thinks this is related to that i//o issues (i really don't exactly know how that affects the tablet besides writing and reading memory cards). Please share your thoughts
For the specs, i would think this is my so long waited ipad killa!!! Or maybe go for the acer 700. Maybe i was expecting too much?
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I'm having the same issues. I believe many others are having the same issues. I'm sticking with mine and hope Asus fixes us fast.
Have you tried other browsers?
I didn't even bother to use stock and went straight with Chrome, which works pretty good for me. One down side is it has no Flash support. So for this, I installed Dolphin.
With Chrome, I got sunspider result of 1400's at balance mode, which is not only faster than the stock browser, but actually the fastest among all mobile when compared to table below.
http://techreport.com/articles.x/23153/5
HoushaSen said:
Have you tried other browsers?
I didn't even bother to use stock and went straight with Chrome, which works pretty good for me. One down side is it has no Flash support. So for this, I installed Dolphin.
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I have but it not only hangs in the browsers it does in apps also.
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I have but it not only hangs in the browsers it does in apps also.
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Any specific application? I use tablet for ebook reading so I highly rely on those applications, but I noticed previously working fine application (Mantano reader) became much slower to open file above 50MB, and in fact I get "Not responding.." error message very frequently. However, they just released beta version for next coming release. This works like charm. Ultra fast. They did not specifically say improved performance for ICS, quad core etc... but it works... So I wonder there is some component of applications not optimized for ICS. But this is just my guess and no solid logic to prove this as I don't know if current official version of Mantano is ICS optimized or not.
I like android because of flash supprt and flexibility with the os. If not, i would prob gotten an ipad instead. Not than i am a fan of ios anyhow. What bothers me is the fact that i get a smoother experience with my evo 3d than this. Surely when it loads a page, it stalls for a 2 secs or so. With my evo, nothing similar happens. Besides, multitasking is literally dead on the infinity. Isnt androi supposed to be true multitasking?! Like i said, i have mix feelings
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Any specific application? I use tablet for ebook reading so I highly rely on those applications, but I noticed previously working fine application (Mantano reader) became much slower to open file above 50MB, and in fact I get "Not responding.." error message very frequently. However, they just released beta version for next coming release. This works like charm. Ultra fast. They did not specifically say improved performance for ICS, quad core etc... but it works... So I wonder there is some component of applications not optimized for ICS. But this is just my guess and no solid logic to prove this as I don't know if current official version of Mantano is ICS optimized or not.
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Not really. Like I said in another post "erratic". Its an OS problem that will get fixed with updates.
Its a lemon party around here. Heh.
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HoushaSen said:
Have you tried other browsers?
I didn't even bother to use stock and went straight with Chrome, which works pretty good for me. One down side is it has no Flash support. So for this, I installed Dolphin.
With Chrome, I got sunspider result of 1400's at balance mode, which is not only faster than the stock browser, but actually the fastest among all mobile when compared to table below.
http://techreport.com/articles.x/23153/5
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Got the same running Chrome in balanced mode (1391). Still a lot compared to Chrome on my laptop (277-329), but looks good on this chart ^^
Boat Browser got 1659, interesting, thought it would be better.
Stock browser scored 1912 ms. Not bad at all.
Opera Mobile = 1443, which is a surprise to me.
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Got the same running Chrome in balanced mode (1391). Still a lot compared to Chrome on my laptop (277-329), but looks good on this chart ^^
Boat Browser got 1659, interesting, thought it would be better.
Stock browser scored 1912 ms. Not bad at all.
Opera Mobile = 1443, which is a surprise for me.
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Effing casuals(jk). I got under 1290 on my sold prime with Firefox.
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Do a "cold reboot" and thank this miracle worker later. Works wonders for people wha have already set up tbeir system and apps and experience lag..
Mind you, this is not a cure for the I/O lag contributed to heavy file downloads.
The steps to do a cold reboot will be found here..
http://www.transformerforums.com/forum/asus-transformer-help/11510-various-quick-fixes-links-help.html
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Do a "cold reboot" and thank this miracle worker later. Works wonders for people wha have already set up tbeir system and apps and experience lag..
Mind you, this is not a cure for the I/O lag contributed to heavy file downloads.
The steps to do a cold reboot will be found here..
http://www.transformerforums.com/forum/asus-transformer-help/11510-various-quick-fixes-links-help.html
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Done several cold boots. Also did a couple partition wipes in recovery. A couple factory resets from recovery. Also cleaned cookies, cache, and history from browsers.
soo... should i return and exchange my infinity or are people also experiencing the same thing?
Of course they aren't. The issues that are known for EVERY tablet has already been identified. Time to get your hands on that replacement, unfortunately...
I just got mine today, and when all my apps were being backed into the Infinity (70 apps), I noticed it being laggy too.
Pressing the buttons to switch between Eco Mode or what not, and pressing the Super IPS+ button, it pauses for a second or so before recognizing my finger pressing it.
I returned my TF300T a month ago to wait for this, and that tablet felt a bit better then this.
Also, I love the finish on the back of the tablet, but I've noticed that two lines stick out far more on the back then the rest of the lines.
Anyone experiencing the same stuff too?
It's an Asus thing
I have the original Asus Transformer ( taking delivery of a new Tf700t tomorrow) and I have the same lag. It drives me crazy. Browsers would just hang. I have just installed a new rom update from asus that seems to have fixed the problem. I am going to wait for Jellybean before passing judgement.
For some reason, In system settings, under System, there is no "Software Update" option. It just says: Date & Time, Accessibility, Developer Options, and About Tablet.
But nothing about Software updates. It's on Android version 4.0.3, while I see other Asus tablets (on Antutu benchmark), that are on 4.0.4.
And speaking of Antutu benchmark. My Asus had a less FPS then my HTC Rezound! I was shocked by the numbers. My Rezound was hitting over 58 fps in one test, while the Infinity was barely over 45 fps!
The part that made no sense. When I first tested it, it was on Balance mode, and it scored at 12271. Afterwards, I selected Performance mode, and it scored 11770!
WTF? I thought this was supposed to be the Top of the Line Android tablet, and it's not making a great first impression.
My HTC has a Rom on it, so I have WiFi tether. I tried to see if the tablet would connect to it, and it was connected, but the speeds were so slow that no data was being sent; every webpage wasn't loading, and it just pissed me off.
Also, for some reason, it's not charging past 97%. Is that even normal?
Does your HTC have 1920x1200 pixels to render?
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xMoKax said:
For some reason, In system settings, under System, there is no "Software Update" option. It just says: Date & Time, Accessibility, Developer Options, and About Tablet.
But nothing about Software updates. It's on Android version 4.0.3, while I see other Asus tablets (on Antutu benchmark), that are on 4.0.4.
And speaking of Antutu benchmark. My Asus had a less FPS then my HTC Rezound! I was shocked by the numbers. My Rezound was hitting over 58 fps in one test, while the Infinity was barely over 45 fps!
The part that made no sense. When I first tested it, it was on Balance mode, and it scored at 12271. Afterwards, I selected Performance mode, and it scored 11770!
WTF? I thought this was supposed to be the Top of the Line Android tablet, and it's not making a great first impression.
My HTC has a Rom on it, so I have WiFi tether. I tried to see if the tablet would connect to it, and it was connected, but the speeds were so slow that no data was being sent; every webpage wasn't loading, and it just pissed me off.
Also, for some reason, it's not charging past 97%. Is that even normal?
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I smell butt hurt.
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I smell butt hurt.
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Folks,
My TF700, along with a few others I've seen post here, has been increasingly sluggish under JB compared to ICS, regardless of how many cold boots and complete resets are performed. In addition, I get frequent white screen crashes and complete reboots that happen under heavy use.
So, with that said, here are my questions from those of you with some experience:
1. Should we expect an update from the manufacturer that will address all of this within a short (month?) period of time?
2. Since it's official that CM will provide an "official" port to the TF700, how long does it usually take them to provide a fairly feature rich one (GPS, Microphone, etc support unlike the unofficial port in the development forums)?
3. If both #1 & #2 are >1 month, can you recommend a solution that provides all tablet features? The other JB builds I saw do not provide full features from what I could see, correct?
Thank you for any answers you can provide.
If you are unlocked, you can always downgrade to ICS .30, or a custom Rom like cleanrom.
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Folks,
My TF700, along with a few others I've seen post here, has been increasingly sluggish under JB compared to ICS, regardless of how many cold boots and complete resets are performed. In addition, I get frequent white screen crashes and complete reboots that happen under heavy use.
So, with that said, here are my questions from those of you with some experience:
1. Should we expect an update from the manufacturer that will address all of this within a short (month?) period of time?
2. Since it's official that CM will provide an "official" port to the TF700, how long does it usually take them to provide a fairly feature rich one (GPS, Microphone, etc support unlike the unofficial port in the development forums)?
3. If both #1 & #2 are >1 month, can you recommend a solution that provides all tablet features? The other JB builds I saw do not provide full features from what I could see, correct?
Thank you for any answers you can provide.
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1. ASUS are not quick. Given past performance I don't think there is a chance of seeing an update that will successfully deal with the sluggishness issues.
2. I don't think it will be too long until the first official CM10 builds are released (days/weeks rather than weeks/months). Looking at where they are in development at present I expect the initial releases to be pretty complete. However, until they are released and tested you never know what problems and bugs may be encountered.
3. Your best bet at the moment is CleanROM - its the stock rom with all the bloat removed and some other tweaks to improve performance. Having tried the stock JB release and CleanROM I will say that the performance of CleanROM is way better.
Reboots, white screens and freezes are not normal for this or any tablet.
Firmwares and roms won't fix this. Send it back and get one that functions properly.
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Reboots, white screens and freezes are not normal for this or any tablet.
Firmwares and roms won't fix this. Send it back and get one that functions properly.
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actually, reboots and freezes are quite normal. There have been several posts about it since this device launched. I was a victim of this as well. Made me want to get rid of it. but after rooting and installing cleanrom, i have not had any issues.
Yes, the rom gets rid of the bloat, but with the new update, you have the option of keeping the bloat that you may want. I highly recommend rooting and installing this rom. It will feel like you purchased a new device.
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actually, reboots and freezes are quite normal. There have been several posts about it since this device launched. I was a victim of this as well. Made me want to get rid of it. but after rooting and installing cleanrom, i have not had any issues.
Yes, the rom gets rid of the bloat, but with the new update, you have the option of keeping the bloat that you may want. I highly recommend rooting and installing this rom. It will feel like you purchased a new device.
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Your experience is just one data point and all the other posts combined here are just an incredibly small subset of the entire install base, so, no, just because you experienced it does not make it "normal". IMHO, regular reboots and freezes are NOT normal in a properly functioning TF running compatible software (some android apps do suck and/or are not compatible with new OS versions).
So, in spite of your experience, I personally would NEVER recommend doing something that will permanently void the warranty and completely eliminate the possibility of returning it if the root cause is a hardware problem. Instead, I'd return it, if the new one does it too switch brands.
I'm glad for your happiness with the updated ROM but an unlock on an in warranty tablet that is behaving badly is fundamentally bad advice, IMHO.
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Your experience is just one data point and all the other posts combined here are just an incredibly small subset of the entire install base, so, no, just because you experienced it does not make it "normal". IMHO, regular reboots and freezes are NOT normal in a properly functioning TF running compatible software (some android apps do suck and/or are not compatible with new OS versions).
So, in spite of your experience, I personally would NEVER recommend doing something that will permanently void the warranty and completely eliminate the possibility of returning it if the root cause is a hardware problem. Instead, I'd return it, if the new one does it too switch brands.
I'm glad for your happiness with the updated ROM but an unlock on an in warranty tablet that is behaving badly is fundamentally bad advice, IMHO.
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well xda is not the only website where people talk about electronics. I have seen a great number of complaints about this device. And i agree, there could be a very large number of people out there who are happy with their devices and don't have these issues. But it still remains, there are issues.
I can suggest/recommend people to root/unlock their devices, whether they do it or not, thats totally up to them. Before doing so, they should know the risk involved.
I'll be completely honest on how I feel about the TF700. Before the JB update, the tablet was slow. After the JB update, the tablet was still slow! I love the concept behind the TF700, and it's a beautiful tablet. But, it really does just suck because of its I/O.
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I'll be completely honest on how I feel about the TF700. Before the JB update, the tablet was slow. After the JB update, the tablet was still slow! I love the concept behind the TF700, and it's a beautiful tablet. But, it really does just suck because of its I/O.
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I really must just be lucky because I honestly have not experienced any of the lag or crashes that other people report. Yeah, transfer speed over USB is unusually slow, but it's still better than what USB 1.1 was
Honestly, from all that I've read, this tab is hit or miss. You will either have an absolute dream machine or you will have a nightmare. If you are #1, congrats and have fun with this beast. If you are #2 and it's too late to return it, try out all the roms and see which you like best. Even though the custom roms are fun on this tablet, I return time after time to just plain ol' rooted de-odexed stock and remove the bloat myself. This has consistently given me the best overall results
It sounds closed minded, but I don't think it's hit or miss. The I/O issue has run in the Transformer line up from the beginning. I was foolish to believe they would get it under control by the TF700. I love the tablet, I do, but its I/O is undeniably terrible. There's times when it runs flawless for me. But there other times where I can't even stand to use it. I haven't had a single freeze or reboot on JB, Just times of slow performance. If this thing had a better I/O, it would be the best damn tablet ever.
I'm really scared for the Vivo tab, it might have an I/O issue too. God forbid you have an I/O issue with Windows....
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Not only is the i/o bad (usually code for slow random read/write), but the sequential read is also horrendous. It takes forever for this tablet to load.
The solution would be more ram or to mount the device on an external microsd with better performance.
That being said the infinitys all weve got for fhd tablets until the bew samsung nexus fhd tablet cominf out next year (which will probably be gimped because google wont allow external storage on nexus devices).
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I never had any problems with my tablet on a stock firmware (latest JB). What annoyed me very much is the slugish performance.
Navigation between screens and applications is annoying. I often use google reader and adobe acrobat to read PDFs, and they were so bad.
I do also have samsung galaxy s3 which flies comparing to TF700. My gf has ipad3 which is uber fast too.
So, I've decided to try out CleanRom and so far it's good. It's definitely faster and more smooth.
I have my tablet now 3 weeks. After byuing it I was 4 days on ICS and then got the update to JB.
The speed difference is immense and I have no sluggishness at all.
Only thing I have is that 1 time it wouldn't come out of deep sleep (had to reboot) and had 1 spontaneous reboot since then.
Froze many bloat apps and that gave the tablet some air to breathe RAM wise.
But stock browser is very fast and last week I could compare it to an Ipad3 and speed is quite the same. It depends more on the Wifi speed available.
Opening apps is instantly and fast so no complaints here.
Strange that the experience of some users is totally different.
But let's say there are now 1 million Infinity's sold, a very minority have probs because (proven) people who have complaints will look for it on the internet and will start complaining there also.
But who has no probs will not come here, for sure the majority of users.
So do not magnify the probs more than needed and do not generalize them.
But for sure complain to ASUS asking for a solution depending of the prob by either replacing the defective unit or come quickly with an software update.
Just my 2c
I am looking to upgrade from my HP TouchPad running CM10 and am considering buying an Infinity soon as I really like it over the N10 because of the dock. I am however concerned regarding all the lag and I/O comments I read. IMy HP TouchPad running CM10 and primarily it is used when I travel and while watching TV to surf the web and answer emails rather than use my large laptop. I am able to have 8-10 tabs in the stock browser open at a time without really seeing much of an issue. Will this be something I am able to still do with the Infinity or will it cause the browser to constantly crash? I do not play games hardly at all on it and will sometimes watch divx videos while traveling as well. My main worry is about the web browsing experience compared to what I am using now. I hope it will be as good or better so hopefully someone can answer that for me.
Another thing I use a lot is Eye-Fi to transfer all my pictures from my camera to my tablet to look when I am not home. Would transferring large 10MP files to it be an issue? They go pretty fast right now when I transfer them to my Galaxy Nexus.
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I am looking to upgrade from my HP TouchPad running CM10 and am considering buying an Infinity soon as I really like it over the N10 because of the dock. I am however concerned regarding all the lag and I/O comments I read. IMy HP TouchPad running CM10 and primarily it is used when I travel and while watching TV to surf the web and answer emails rather than use my large laptop. I am able to have 8-10 tabs in the stock browser open at a time without really seeing much of an issue. Will this be something I am able to still do with the Infinity or will it cause the browser to constantly crash? I do not play games hardly at all on it and will sometimes watch divx videos while traveling as well. My main worry is about the web browsing experience compared to what I am using now. I hope it will be as good or better so hopefully someone can answer that for me.
Another thing I use a lot is Eye-Fi to transfer all my pictures from my camera to my tablet to look when I am not home. Would transferring large 10MP files to it be an issue? They go pretty fast right now when I transfer them to my Galaxy Nexus.
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I can't help you with that Eye-Fi question,
but I can try to answer your upgrade-related question
Anyway, I think that as long as you're experienced in flashing custom roms (in your case, I am sure you are, looking at the Rom you are running ) the I/O issue is no issue at all and most (if not all) lag is gone after installing CleanRom Inheritance.
It really boosts your device, without having to sacrifice battery life!
On top of that, it has also improved video/streaming playback drastically, making this device as top-tier as Asus claimed it is
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I can't help you with that Eye-Fi question,
but I can try to answer your upgrade-related question
Anyway, I think that as long as you're experienced in flashing custom roms (in your case, I am sure you are, looking at the Rom you are running ) the I/O issue is no issue at all and most (if not all) lag is gone after installing CleanRom Inheritance.
It really boosts your device, without having to sacrifice battery life!
On top of that, it has also improved video/streaming playback drastically, making this device as top-tier as Asus claimed it is
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+1. Also disable animation, makes you think you have the fastest tablet in the world!! super snappy!
I'll agree with the above!
There's quite a following going here.
This is a ROM flashers tablet IMO.
For myself I gave up on the OTA's from the manufacturer and started going the route of custom ROMs.
Been extremely happy with the work done in development.
Hope to see you join on!
Ok good to know. I assume then though I will be disappointed until I flash I custom ROM to it then? Will I most likely get a version that I can unlock it with NVFlash out of the box as long as I don't do the updates and unlock/root/flash it right away?
Also any specific reason for CleanROM over CM?
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I assume then though I will be disappointed until I flash I custom ROM to it then?
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I would say you may not necessarily be displeased with JellyBean in stock form.
A great number of users are more than happy with this tab in it's pure Android state.
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Will I most likely get a version that I can unlock it with NVFlash out of the box as long as I don't do the updates and unlock/root/flash it right away?
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Yes
I will state that you will be able to bring home an ICS 4.03 version with the .26 firmware.
True don't allow OTA updating until you weave thru the NVFlash process.
I wasn't able to do NVFlash because of updating then finding out about it afterward.
Good luck if you decide to leap!
Alright went to Best Buy last night and played with the Infinity for about 30min. It definitely seemed pretty slow compared to my touchpad running CM and it didn't even want to load 3-4 webpages at a time. I did not however get the wait/close pop up at all. The screen was amazing (one major reason for wanting to upgrade, 1024x768 just isn't cutting it anymore) and the keyboard is a lot better to type on than what a lot of people seem to say. It didn't seem overly small to me.
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Yes
I will state that you will be able to bring home an ICS 4.03 version with the .26 firmware.
True don't allow OTA updating until you weave thru the NVFlash process.
I wasn't able to do NVFlash because of updating then finding out about it afterward.
Good luck if you decide to leap!
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That is great to know I will be able to do the NVFlash though as that is really the only way I would want to root and flash this tablet. I like the fact it can't be bricked doing that.
Is it correct that I have read once I have the blobs from doing NVFlash I can manually upgrade to the most current firmware and NVFlash will still work? If so it seems I will actually finally have made up my mind of what tablet to get.
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Yes, I think it's overal nicer and faster with CR.
Not to mention that it has a bit better implementation with the keyboard dock (if you have decided to buy that). You also get amazing support from the developer of CleanRom and the Rom Installer gives you the ability to choose what you want and what tweaks you like. Therefore, it's really nice to use it.
Besides, sometimes it's handy having the 3 'performance' modes and IPS+ toggle in the notification bar. Asus did some things right, so we should give them credit for that