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I haven't flashed to any Tom's yet, but this seems to be the most popular. Why is that? I looked at the change log and I don't understand what I would be gaining I guess.
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same too me, I tried it over 3.1, what I experienced:
- browser little bit slower
- more SOD
- nothing real extra feature
I have to use a custom rom for a couple of reasons:
1) My stock rom is the Chinese verison, which means no google apps or google sync. Without google, it's just not android.
2) I need the Chinese input methods. I would normally switch to the USA stock rom, but it doesn't have Chinese input. Prime does/did, Chinese handwriting input is MIA, but I'll sure it will be taken care of.
I choose to use a custom rom for these reasons:
3) I don't like excess crap on my computer. I can modify a custom rom before I install it, mostly just removing apps that I will never use.
4) Root! I love freedom on my computer. Root lets me do things. All kinds of neat things: block ads, increase speed on sd card, delete/modify system apps and directories, and lots more. Look into it, it is fun.
5) Overclock. Prime doesn't have it, but you can add a kernal that does. I currently don't overclock, but as the Tegra 2 ages, i will overclock it. I'm specifically waiting for a rom with a high GPU overclock. There is one out there that currently does have a minor GPU overclock.
6) Clockwork Recovery. Backup, restore, switch roms, clear cache and more.
Why I choose Prime:
7) Dock battery meter in the taskbar.
8) Reboot/recovery options for power button.
After looking through the current selection of roms available, I choose Prime. But I keep my eye on revolver and Clemsyn.
bobloadmire said:
I haven't flashed to any Tom's yet, but this seems to be the most popular. Why is that? I looked at the change log and I don't understand what I would be gaining I guess.
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How do you not? OP clearly states that there are optimizations made to increase load times etc etc.
No, op states "better user experience" which is very vague. Also I'm not having any slow load times, everything is pretty zippy.
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bobloadmire said:
I haven't flashed to any Tom's yet, but this seems to be the most popular. Why is that? I looked at the change log and I don't understand what I would be gaining I guess.
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Last time I flashed a Tom he punched me in the face...
One reason I haven't seen mentioned would also be themes, but it is still early in the game, there are few options. Custom Roms are generally just optimized better, though the Transformer doesn't have nearly the bloat some Android devices have making them almost essential...
Honestly once you learn, it is such an easy process that flashing different roms/kernels and trying them is the only real way to know what is best for you and your usage.
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No, op states "better user experience" which is very vague. Also I'm not having any slow load times, everything is pretty zippy.
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Then why are you worrying about ROMs? It's obvious you want some of that Baconcomb so just get it already.
Honestly, I don't know why people ever need to "beg" you to try something. If you're happy with what you got already, then be happy.
"If it isn't broken, don't fix it"
If you're curious, then just do it... because all in honesty. One person's opinion is only a opinion. The only way you're going to know if it's worth it is from YOUR personal experience. I can personally say that, PRIME 1.6 and root is good and its worth it.
If you don't want to take my word for it, then don't. I'm not going to beg you to do it.
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Then why are you worrying about ROMs? It's obvious you want some of that Baconcomb so just get it already.
Honestly, I don't know why people ever need to "beg" you to try something. If you're happy with what you got already, then be happy.
"If it isn't broken, don't fix it"
If you're curious, then just do it... because all in honesty. One person's opinion is only a opinion. The only way you're going to know if it's worth it is from YOUR personal experience. I can personally say that, PRIME 1.6 and root is good and its worth it.
If you don't want to take my word for it, then don't. I'm not going to beg you to do it.
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The reason im asking is so i dont miss out on anything and obviously im looking for empiracle data to help me understand any performance benefits.
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zephiK said:
Then why are you worrying about ROMs? It's obvious you want some of that Baconcomb so just get it already.
Honestly, I don't know why people ever need to "beg" you to try something. If you're happy with what you got already, then be happy.
"If it isn't broken, don't fix it"
If you're curious, then just do it... because all in honesty. One person's opinion is only a opinion. The only way you're going to know if it's worth it is from YOUR personal experience. I can personally say that, PRIME 1.6 and root is good and its worth it.
If you don't want to take my word for it, then don't. I'm not going to beg you to do it.
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Wow...
He asked what was the difference between stock and Prime, and you went off in another direction. He wasn't asking to be "begged" into using Prime nor asking for others to convince him into using Prime at all.
Anyways, I know Prime has a few optimizations, but I don't know if it brings any substantial changes. There's a link to download the power/recovery mod, so I suppose it could be applied to any ROM including rooted stock.
One reason I would like to root my tf101 is to be able to use a USB dongle. But I am waiting for 3.2 to come out before since I just got my tf101.
The stock version is pretty good actually. No major complaints so far.
I hav ebeen using Prime for a while but ASUS stock version is definitely quite good. Even more so for lack of garbageware that so plagues the mobile phones...
Yea I guess I'm in the same camp. I haven't seen a compelling reason to move to a different ROM versus rooted stock. There are too many posts that seem to lead users to believe that a different ROM is the same as root. Remember you can root the stock ROM. The OP is asking what user experience enhancements make Prime (or any other ROM) compelling.
If you read changelog second post it will tell you exactly what's new in the ROM. Many changes are only useful for experienced linux users, but many others are useful for everyone. The nice thing about roms is that most of the things and tweaks are already done for you. If you don't need/care about those changes then there is no point for you to reflash.
Which BXX mod did you get ?
I'm curious because I'm thinking of picking up one of these today ( the guy at Orifice Depot tried to get me to buy an Iconia, but that thing doesn't have anywhere near the support the TF is getting...)....?
Manufacturer's (ASUS included) have to be very careful about their ROM releases so they are thoroughly tested and ready to release to the general public. Consequently they are slower to release updates (i.e. NVidia updates, etc.). Custom ROMs generally consolidate the best and latest releases from various manufacturer's into the most cuttest edge versions you can possibly be running. As you'll notice this can also mean more lock-ups and weird issues since you are getting just-available changes. So if you prefer max stability, stick with the manufacturer's updates. For many of us part of the fun of owning an Android tablet is the rapid pace that custom ROMs are put out and the interesting/quirky things they bring us.
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I'm curious because I'm thinking of picking up one of these today ( the guy at Orifice Depot tried to get me to buy an Iconia, but that thing doesn't have anywhere near the support the TF is getting...)....?
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I got a B60 TF and a B60 dock from my local OD this past weekend (Denver, CO).
Prime Vs Stock
Reason why I flashed the Prime Rom. With Prime and a netflix patch I'm able to stream netflix movie. Also now Adhoc connections work. I can Wifi tehther my TF101 with my Driod using the adhoc connection. I can now easily reboot into recovery prior to this going into recovery was a bit tricky. This was not possible even with HC 3.2. Also I don't have to worry about losing root becuase of an OTA update.
I am actually a flashaholic when it comes to flashing roms on my phone. But so far, I haven't come across any compelling reasons to flash custom roms on my transformer. The need to flash roms on phones offer benefits that are non existant on a tablet. For instance, one major reason to flash custom roms on phones is to enable free wifi tethering, which obviously does not apply here. Another reason, as stated above is to remove bloatware. The transformer doesn't really have that. And yet another reason is to be able to update to the latest Android version before the official release. Correct me if i'm wrong but when I looked, the 3.2 update came out officially before any transformer custom roms had it. There are a couple more minor customizations options that I'm not seeing yet being offered by the transformer roms. I am fully aware of the speed enhancements and optimizations that custom roms offer, but considering the custom roms for the transformer are still relatively new (no disrespect or discredit to the devs for their hard work), and considering that even still now, the rooting and flashing methods keep getting outdated and changed, it's too early in this ballgame for me to flash.
I've been lurking the forums here now for a month and finally pulled the trigger, my TF get's here monday.
I have yet to see any reason to flash a custom rom or even root at this point. I'll be rooting it just to say it's rooted and just for a couple of root only programs I have. The custom roms don't really bring anything to the table that this tablet doesn't have. it has the newest version of android with all the bells and whistles. I'm not going to be overclocking. I understand netflix is big for some people, but, from what I have read flashing the fix breaks some video playback. I'm ok to wait for the official netflix patch. A 32gb MicroSD and the 16gb on board space is plenty to store movies on for travel etc. I also have a server I run at home that will stream my entire movie,. TV, and music collections directly to me.
Having the best of the best and the most up to date version of android does have it's perks
What's the reason for people not rooting? There have been 1 click installers since July. I still see people posting like it's some wild thing only 1337 h4x0rs do when my grandma rooted her phone.
Or people weighing the benefits and debating whether or not to do it. It takes 15 minutes to unroot it back to stock(if you have a good sd card) so what's all the fuss about it? I've yet to see a brick made by anything other than physical damage. maybe a bad BIOS flash or firmware update would do it to computer parts but the tablets are pretty hard to brick.
inb4 "enjoying stock experience". buy an ipad for that.
pretty easy to brick actually, if I didn't have nvflash access to my device I would have bricked my device half a dozen times by now. I've also bricked my Galaxy Tab 7" twice now.
Also, starting with some B70s, there was no one click for quite some time, until Razorclaw
Personally, I haven't had much of a reason to root mine. I've had a rooted G1 and currently use a rooted Nexus S.. only because I knew I could make it better by flashing a custom ROM. The Transformer runs well enough for me out of the box.
I like my devices rooted, but I can understand if people don't want to root. There are plenty of threads that start out "Help, I tried to root, but now I'm screwed!" It's certainly not rocket science, but there is a risk and I can understand if some people don't want to take that risk with their tablet, time, or money.
I would guess that some people don't want to follow every thread here on XDA to figure out if Nachoroot will root the .21 firmware that was rooted with Razorclaw on the .19 firmware, but borked by the OTA. I'm not even sure what the answer to that is?
Lastly, maybe people actually use their tablets as tablets?? I thought they were portable Android! playgrounds where the trick to the puzzle was to root the OTA before you're forced to flash it. I enjoy my tablet, but the IT guy at work asks me why I need to root it and I can't come up with a great reason why other than I can.
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Personally, I haven't had much of a reason to root mine. I've had a rooted G1 and currently use a rooted Nexus S.. only because I knew I could make it better by flashing a custom ROM. The Transformer runs well enough for me out of the box.
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I agree. My phone is rooted and running a rom pretty much because out of the box, it was down right horrible to use (and on most occasions I love having the latest and the greatest) .
With my Transformer, speed has never been an issue. Asus has done a great job with Honeycomb for the TF101. It never feels slow or laggy.
I can say, however, that if there was a sure-fire way to recover from a brick on SBKv2 devices (nvflash), I would experiment a little more with custom roms.
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But for voodoo control plus I could live without root. Don't get me wrong I love all the goodies it brings like titanium backup pro and so on; but essentially because no manufacturer to date has properly implemented in hardware and software the hardware audio capabilities of any android device, I always buy a wolfson based voodoo supported device and seek root.
(Please no one make any claims about audio particularly in that HTC beats software based bollocks they are ripping people off with!).
The question of why Tf101 users aren't rooting is different. Look at the ilk or breeding of TF101 users in xda as opposed (for arguments sake) to those nexus s users here. By comparison the TF101 users are greener than the grass in Ireland.
But I believe it comes from this :
The vast majority of mobile phone owners will use their phones and be done with it.
Tablet owners on the other hand, no matter how uber noob will be more likely to congregate to gather advice and solutions as if we are honest - it ain't no iPad.
This in mind I fully understand the amount of totally over excited kids it seems are hanging around salivating awaiting the official ICS.
I use my tf101 for a multitude of things. Only really my love of music needs root. I'm down with the situation, all is cool.
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I don't think I could live without AdFree.
Why not to root? I don't understand either!
I daily use the rooted part of my transformer:
* Anyconnect to get on the vpn network
* Hidebar to hide the bottom systembar
* chroot to get to a Debian image on it
* modified hosts to limit ads
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Why not to root? I don't understand either!
I daily use the rooted part of my transformer:
* Anyconnect to get on the vpn network
* Hidebar to hide the bottom systembar
* chroot to get to a Debian image on it
* modified hosts to limit ads
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+1 i agree
weekly basis for me
script manager / always trying scripts n tweaks
root explorer /system etc always playing round
titanium backup (update my backup daily)
ADW.ex as a system app and dolphin browser hd that required root right
upd8r, vodoo, systune, ttorrent, my masses of emulators
logcats , tools, etc
I use root everyday and love it !!
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ppirate said:
Why not to root? I don't understand either!
I daily use the rooted part of my transformer:
* Anyconnect to get on the vpn network
* Hidebar to hide the bottom systembar
* chroot to get to a Debian image on it
* modified hosts to limit ads
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Not everyone needs VPN.
Not everyone needs to hide the bottom systembar.
Not everione wants a Debian image in it
Not everyone is that bothered with the few ads they might bump into.
Really, the kind of people who think that rooting the device is a MUST seem just like the bunch of Android fanboys that have to scream at people buying Apple products. "It's better! Don't use that!"
People have to realize that some times there's just no particular reason for certain things, and rooting is one of them. There's just no particular reason for some people.
Did I rooted my device? Yes.
Have I been using it for many purposes requiring root? Not quite, even though I will.
The reason why I required root was for certain things like using a custom ROM that would allow me to, coupled with the dock, use a 3G dongle and being able to have a SSH tunnel to make secure use of certain open networks.
But beyond that I don't have that much use to it.
Some people simply don't need to "play around", or access parts of their device that they don't need if they aren't rooted at all.
The TF is a functional device.
Android is a customizable and open OS.
Some people are plain happy with it, and root wouldn't give them anything more.
I'm glad to find this thread. I currently use a rooted hd2 and I have a tf101 and I have been unable to decide weather to root or not.
What are the benefits of rooting this device?
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it's the same benefit as you get with rooting your phone... wifikill is a great app. overclocking is a huge feature. I'm at 1.7GHz. stock is 1GHz.
root lets me have control of everything. I uninstalled gmail because it is useless to me, and instead I use the ICS email app.
kylew1212 said:
I'm glad to find this thread. I currently use a rooted hd2 and I have a tf101 and I have been unable to decide weather to root or not.
What are the benefits of rooting this device?
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read first page and thats just a few of the benefits
but i agree its a choice that everyone should have and not all people like root
but for the people that are debating it thats enough for me to pipe in and say do it!!
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Some people either just don't know about rooting and what it provides, while some people know the benefits but don't wish to seek them just because they don't want to take a risk, even a slim one.
All my phones are rooted but I have no desire to root my TF.
I don't have to remove anything off I don't use. If I didn't know it was required to own an Android device you had to root it. It must be something wrong with me.
Wolfson DAC with Voodoo Control Plus app
wildestpixel said:
But for voodoo control plus I could live without root. Don't get me wrong I love all the goodies it brings like titanium backup pro and so on; but essentially because no manufacturer to date has properly implemented in hardware and software the hardware audio capabilities of any android device, I always buy a wolfson based voodoo supported device and seek root.
(Please no one make any claims about audio particularly in that HTC beats software based bollocks they are ripping people off with!).
The question of why Tf101 users aren't rooting is different. Look at the ilk or breeding of TF101 users in xda as opposed (for arguments sake) to those nexus s users here. By comparison the TF101 users are greener than the grass in Ireland.
But I believe it comes from this :
The vast majority of mobile phone owners will use their phones and be done with it.
Tablet owners on the other hand, no matter how uber noob will be more likely to congregate to gather advice and solutions as if we are honest - it ain't no iPad.
This in mind I fully understand the amount of totally over excited kids it seems are hanging around salivating awaiting the official ICS.
I use my tf101 for a multitude of things. Only really my love of music needs root. I'm down with the situation, all is cool.
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Voodoo Control Plus on both my Asus TF101 and Nexus S is a tremendous enhancement that I couldn't replace. You have to really hear it once to fully understand. This is also the first app I have bought for the android OS.
For other tools (backups, logs, network tools...), root is really usefull, but for an audiophile, it's a necessity (the only alternative is another device in the pocket, as the Cowon J3 I still use, or a portable headphone amp).
All my devices have been rooted out of choice. I could just as easily be unrooted and still be happy. Current best reason I have is Titanium Backup; ).
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Well, everything I own is rooted, but my new Galaxy Nexus lost ability to write to internal memory after two weeks. I'm sure it was an electronic failure, but since it was rooted you can't get it returned under warranty and you couldn't unroot it cause you couldn't write to the memory. Without the insurance that would been a $750 problem.
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ive always rooted just because i like to tinker and like the results that can be had. i too must have voodoo its just night and day differences. i was stuck stock on the tf101 for a couple months waiting for razorclaw and didnt have too many complaints other than a little laggy and a few fc's here and there. then once rooted running a custom rom oc'ed and tweaked, there was just no going back . stoch honeycomb is fine but modded honeycomb is just slick. i am very thoughtful of bricking and dont go flashing every new thing out there cuz there isnt a way to unbrick my sbkv2 device, but i couldnt go back to stock it would be completely a downgrade.
of course this is all preference and opinion.
I've been considering getting this tablet for a while. It seems like it does what i want. I basically wanted a 10 version of the nexus 7, fluid. I plan on reading pdf's, sketching, looking at raw pics from SD card, maybe light editing and remote desktop, web browsing, downloading pdfs and ebooks, possibly a game or so. I wanted to wait and see if jellybean would fix the problems that this tablet has, as its within a reasonable price range for me, i dont want to just spend $500 on a tablet, i have a samsung vibrant which is running a CM10 rom and its running great, so i like to keep things running as long as possible. However i wanted to ask the community what there experiences are as to there daily use with it especially with jellybean. Have you had to root and flash a rom on it? Has it improved with flashing a rom on it? How hard is it to unlock and root and flash? What are the major problems most are having? Would you buy it again?
I really appreciate any input you all have as it will help with my decision.
It's a good tablet, has dev support too but it does have issues on stock. Issues such as browsing. This thread may have some opinions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1857288
and if you search, i'm sure there are other threads (not trying to sound rude).
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I'm pleased.
There are two things to consider if you get one.
Root while on ICS and use voodoo root keeper.
Consider NVFlash while on ICS.
It is a good tablet, not perfect but good, support is better for TF300T than the other TF300s.
Good Luck!
Root easy on ICS if you don't want to unlock. Root easy on JB if you unlock.
Get it, keep it on ICS a few days before you go beyond root. This will give you time to verify no issues with tablet that would cause you to wish for warranty repair or replacement.
I've had my infinity for a couple of weeks now and I'm really frustrated with the lag. I want to unlock it but I've heard stories of people who owned one and a manufacturer defect didn't appear for a month. For example a couple of black lines appearing that won't go away. So far I haven't found any defects but I'm worried that if I unlock then something will happen and I can't return it.
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Yep do it. Get some love!:good:
I really want to. But would it be wise to wait a few more weeks to make sure there's no defects?
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Is unlocking worth it?
The answer will always be yes.
Is the tablet worth much before unlocking?
No
Thats OK said:
Is unlocking worth it?
The answer will always be yes.
Is the tablet worth much before unlocking?
No
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I agree but if something happens like the screen randomly giving out then I'm screwed
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I agree but if something happens like the screen randomly giving out then I'm screwed
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In the meantime while you're deciding whether to unlock or not, go into "Settings / Developer Options" and put a check in "Force GPU rendering". Then under "Window animation scale", Transition animation scale" and "Animator duration scale", disable all of those.
I go tired of the slideshow animations, so I disabled them all. My tablet has the appearance of snappiness now. Rooting, unlocking, and romming my tablet didn't get rid of the horrible slideshow. Disabling animations does.
Thanks for the tip. How likely are issues to show up? And if they do will asus cover it? If it's not very likely then ill unlock and install cromi
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Thanks for the tip.
How likely are issues to show up?
And if they do will asus cover it?
If it's not very likely then ill unlock and install CROMi
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A bit of a tough call...boils down to luck of the draw so to speak.
Asus may give you grief even with a locked tab.
My own experience:
Had the Infinity since July 2012.
Minor light bleed at first: diminished to a point where it isn't noticeable.
Some clicking around the glass at first: one spot now above the power port-no issue for me since this tablet is in a Bobj case.
Unlocked and re-rommed with original CleanROM around October\November or whenever JB first was pushed.
Few months to go and my tab will be a year old so if I make it with no hardware failures unlocking was the best option for me.
*note
I dropped this tab off a nightstand 4 weeks ago and dinged the corner (it was in a light folio) it never skipped a beat.
Bottom line
It's your call
Ok thanks. Disabling the animations and enabling force gpu rendering solved my problems with lag. So for now I have no need to unlock. My plan now is to wait a month or maybe 2 and then unlock if no issues come up. Thanks for the advice
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Is unlocking worth it?
The answer will always be yes.
Is the tablet worth much before unlocking?
No
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I'm aware to not make a lot of friends in saying this ... but I found the stock JB ROM a decent system. For me it has not really been as bad as you can read here a lot. Have to say though that I never had to use the ICS stock version, which seemingly really was not a good choice.
I have unlocked mine and flashed a custom ROM, but in my case more for the fun of it. Using the stock ROM until your warranty runs out is a good option. You might look into rooting it anyway, which will not harm your warranty.
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I'm aware to not make a lot of friends in saying this ... but I found the stock JB ROM a decent system. For me it has not really been as bad as you can read here a lot. Have to say though that I never had to use the ICS stock version, which seemingly really was not a good choice.
I have unlocked mine and flashed a custom ROM, but in my case more for the fun of it. Using the stock ROM until your warranty runs out is a good option. You might look into rooting it anyway, which will not harm your warranty.
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Why would you not have friends by saying stock is good?
Non-stock ROMs have seen tremendous success their ongoing development is just icing on the cake.
I'm sure there are thousands of happy users that have no idea that aftermarket ROMs even exist.
Thats OK said:
Why would you not have friends by saying stock is good?
Non-stock ROMs have seen tremendous success their ongoing development is just icing on the cake.
I'm sure there are thousands of happy users that have no idea that aftermarket ROMs even exist.
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Just thought because everyone is beating on the fact that only custom ROMs make this thing fly. Again, I'm a very new Infinity user, my only experience with stock ROMs is from using the JB 10.4.4.25 version. And this is a good choice in my opinion.
FordPrefect said:
Just thought because everyone is beating on the fact that only custom ROMs make this thing fly. Again, I'm a very new Infinity user, my only experience with stock ROMs is from using the JB 10.4.4.25 version. And this is a good choice in my opinion.
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The stock ROM is mixed bag -- some have actually preferred ICS to JB, and there are some that prefer it the other way around. Nonetheless, I'd be surprised if you wouldn't prefer custom ROMs to the stock versions once you unlock and flash away.
I do underwrite fully your statement that if the stock ROM doesn't bother you, it's not that of an immediate need to unlock and flash a custom ROM, especially if you are an easily frightened Infinity owner.
I know this forum seems aimed at custom ROMs.
Certainly no need if one is pleased with the tablet in it's pure form.
XDA is a site that used to forge development vs. troubleshooting.
It's all good tho...everyone enjoys helping as much as possible.
No worries
I'd say just root then install browser2ram and set that up in the stock browsers debug settings, then wait for the next update which should be in a month or so.
After the update see if you are still wanting and then decided if you want to unlock. Remember this is a techie site and people here tend to advise people to take more aggressive actions, as they are speaking from an area that they are very comfortable, but I tend to advise people like yourself to be more conservative and patient.
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I'd say just root then install browser2ram and set that up in the stock browsers debug settings, then wait for the next update which should be in a month or so.
After the update see if you are still wanting and then decided if you want to unlock. Remember this is a techie site and people here tend to advise people to take more aggressive actions, as they are speaking from an area that they are very comfortable, but I tend to advise people like yourself to be more conservative and patient.
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thanks. actually i am one of the more aggressive action types of people. i rooted my phone and installed a custom rom within an hour of getting it lol. I really want to unlock my tab because i love custom roms, however it is an expensive device and i have heard stories of the poor quality control asus has. If it weren't for that i would have unlocked it and installed cromi a few days after getting it.
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Hey all,
Just got the Infinity Pad, and I love it!
Well, almost... I'm still going to root and flash the thing...
Anyway, I just want to ask what people's experience with the dock is. I know it has its own firmware, and I also know that there are changes in how things work once I plug it in. I don't want to lose this functionality , so I wanted to check first.
Are there any issues that pop up at all when flashing the tablet, or do all of the features work? I still want the second battery meter and the multi-touch capabilities on the trackpad, for example. Also, while I'm here, one more thing: Are there custom ROMs for the dock out there?
Mikey1969 said:
Hey all,
Just got the Infinity Pad, and I love it!
Well, almost... I'm still going to root and flash the thing...
Anyway, I just want to ask what people's experience with the dock is. I know it has its own firmware, and I also know that there are changes in how things work once I plug it in. I don't want to lose this functionality , so I wanted to check first.
Are there any issues that pop up at all when flashing the tablet, or do all of the features work? I still want the second battery meter and the multi-touch capabilities on the trackpad, for example. Also, while I'm here, one more thing: Are there custom ROMs for the dock out there?
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CleanRom will work with the dock as the stock. I am not sure of the other ROMs out there but I know 100% that Cromi does work with the dock. Whatever issues that pop up in Cromi can be reported to sbdags and he will do what he can. And I am not sure about the firmware for the dock. The firmware updates for the dock come with the ota Asus updates I believe.
Tylor
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Tylorw1 said:
CleanRom will work with the dock as the stock. I am not sure of the other ROMs out there but I know 100% that Cromi does work with the dock. Whatever issues that pop up in Cromi can be reported to sbdags and he will do what he can. And I am not sure about the firmware for the dock. The firmware updates for the dock come with the ota Asus updates I believe.
Tylor
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Rom: CleanRom 3.4.4
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I second that completely. In my case, I had the dock when I was at stock JB ROM and now after switching to the CROMI v3.4.4 the keydock experience simply is the same. All the keys are working, including the special keys like settings, screen brightness, volume, browser etc. Also the touch pad comes in handy, including the swiping and pinch to zoom.
What's not clear to me is the firmware thing. As far as I know the dock firmware is part of the stock ROM, like being a particular folder somewhere in the systems area. As such, I suspect it should be part of CROMI as well. What I don't know is what triggers an update process in the case there is new firmware.
All the same, I also don't know how all the other ROMs out there are working. With CROMI it does.
EDIT: Forgot to mention: (with CROMI) you will have the second battery meter, including the Asus widget.
Tylorw1 said:
And I am not sure about the firmware for the dock. The firmware updates for the dock come with the ota Asus updates I believe.
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FordPrefect said:
What's not clear to me is the firmware thing. As far as I know the dock firmware is part of the stock ROM, like being a particular folder somewhere in the systems area. As such, I suspect it should be part of CROMI as well. What I don't know is what triggers an update process in the case there is new firmware.
All the same, I also don't know how all the other ROMs out there are working. With CROMI it does.
EDIT: Forgot to mention: (with CROMI) you will have the second battery meter, including the Asus widget.
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Tylorw and FordPrefect have answered the questions regarding the functionality already, and I have nothing to add to their descrption: it simply works on CROMI. On other ROMs there are (sometimes many) issues -- in their beginnings, the shortcuts were not working at all, and with some of them we have seen this problem creep up every time a major update was issued. Also, certain ASUS-specific functionality, like the IPS/IPS+ toggle is not (and possibly will never be) available with non-stock-based ROMs.
mini-TL;DR: if you really vallue full dock functionality, stay with CROMI.
Regarding the dockfirmware updates: we've had a CleamROM update (so Scott's original CROM, not sbdags' CROMI) that included firmware updates for the camera and the touchpad. I have no idea where ASUS hides them -- I didn't bother looking that up -- but it just shows you could still receive updates to the (dock) firmware if you're going the stock-based custom ROM route...
MartyHulskemper said:
Tylorw and FordPrefect have answered the questions regarding the functionality already, and I have nothing to add to their descrption: it simply works on CROMI. On other ROMs there are (sometimes many) issues -- in their beginnings, the shortcuts were not working at all, and with some of them we have seen this problem creep up every time a major update was issued. Also, certain ASUS-specific functionality, like the IPS/IPS+ toggle is not (and possibly will never be) available with non-stock-based ROMs.
mini-TL;DR: if you really vallue full dock functionality, stay with CROMI.
Regarding the dockfirmware updates: we've had a CleamROM update (so Scott's original CROM, not sbdags' CROMI) that included firmware updates for the camera and the touchpad. I have no idea where ASUS hides them -- I didn't bother looking that up -- but it just shows you could still receive updates to the (dock) firmware if you're going the stock-based custom ROM route...
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Thanks guys for your help, I'm glad I asked, since you listed some issues with other ROMs. I'll play around with this thing this weekend, and try out CROMI .
Once again, I appreciate the help. I'm not always sure anymore, message boards used to be the safe place for the most noob question, nowadays, it's hit and miss...
Flashed mine last week to CROMI and first thing I check were all the keys. Everything seemed good and the double widget worked for me as well. I have had to much time to play and didn't check to see if my firmware on the dock was old. I I'll check that tonight.
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Mikey1969 said:
Will anything change with my dock
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Short answer is no
Both CM10.1 (by now) and CRomI make advantage of the dock, and although my prefence goes to CRomI, I have seen great development in the CM10.1 section, more specifically how the rom makes use of the dock.
So no worries!
Root it and have a much faster (almost blazing) piece of aesthetic machinery!
Mikey1969 said:
Thanks guys for your help, I'm glad I asked, since you listed some issues with other ROMs. I'll play around with this thing this weekend, and try out CROMI .
Once again, I appreciate the help. I'm not always sure anymore, message boards used to be the safe place for the most noob question, nowadays, it's hit and miss...
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I'm sure yo uwill not be disappointed, and with issues, we're here to help as well as we can.
As far as the noob bashing is concerned: it's not too bad in here. I'm possibly one of the most agressive members -- at least as far as cases of non-reading are concerned. Some people just can't be bothered to use the search function, or even glance over the 5 similarly named topics on the first page of a forum ("howz do I n00b root JB?"), and sometimes that really gets to me. Or people being unappreciative of the many hours of life we all put in here, especially our great devs. It's a calling of some dubous sort, but still it's a hobby, it's not a paid job.
Yours was a legitimate question, though, so as far as I am concerned you're in the clear. Hahaha!
MartyHulskemper said:
I'm sure yo uwill not be disappointed, and with issues, we're here to help as well as we can.
As far as the noob bashing is concerned: it's not too bad in here. I'm possibly one of the most agressive members -- at least as far as cases of non-reading are concerned. Some people just can't be bothered to use the search function, or even glance over the 5 similarly named topics on the first page of a forum ("howz do I n00b root JB?"), and sometimes that really gets to me. Or people being unappreciative of the many hours of life we all put in here, especially our great devs. It's a calling of some dubous sort, but still it's a hobby, it's not a paid job.
Yours was a legitimate question, though, so as far as I am concerned you're in the clear. Hahaha!
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Yeah, the biggest offender in user forums has been Adobe. Back around 2002, '03, when I was still in school, they were a great way to figure out how to use new tools, and work your way through problems. Eventually they turned into a superiority-fest, with nothing but flaming. You'd mention that you needed to handle files a certain way, or use certain file formats, and instead of help, you'd just get a bunch of replies calling you a moron for doing the proces the way you were doing it, stuff like that. It got bad enough that I quit using them altogether after 4-5 years of referring people to them whenever possible.
I've been staying away from this board only because I'm not a dev, just a user, and I figured this was a little above my pay grade, so to speak, but over the last couple of years, I've ended up here more and more, so I'm really liking the community! :good:
Mikey1969 said:
Yeah, the biggest offender in user forums has been Adobe. Back around 2002, '03, when I was still in school, they were a great way to figure out how to use new tools, and work your way through problems. Eventually they turned into a superiority-fest, with nothing but flaming. You'd mention that you needed to handle files a certain way, or use certain file formats, and instead of help, you'd just get a bunch of replies calling you a moron for doing the proces the way you were doing it, stuff like that. It got bad enough that I quit using them altogether after 4-5 years of referring people to them whenever possible.
I've been staying away from this board only because I'm not a dev, just a user, and I figured this was a little above my pay grade, so to speak, but over the last couple of years, I've ended up here more and more, so I'm really liking the community! :good:
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Most of us are not developers themselves, but just well-meaning halfnoobs. (I'm speaking for myself here, no need for anyone else to feel offended. ) XDA is OK, but a little sometimes not-so-)friendly 'policing' has to be done to keep it that way. Sometimes it only takes a little nudge -- I'd rather have us cleanse ourselves than to be dependent on a moderator for every single time something small happens. These guys -- although REALLY relaxed in our parts -- do have a lot to deal with without us giving them more to do. If it really gets too hot too handle, I mostly back out anyway, or go the PM route.
CM10.1 plays nice with dock.
Mikey1969 said:
Hey all,
Just got the Infinity Pad, and I love it!
Well, almost... I'm still going to root and flash the thing...
Anyway, I just want to ask what people's experience with the dock is. I know it has its own firmware, and I also know that there are changes in how things work once I plug it in. I don't want to lose this functionality , so I wanted to check first.
Are there any issues that pop up at all when flashing the tablet, or do all of the features work? I still want the second battery meter and the multi-touch capabilities on the trackpad, for example. Also, while I'm here, one more thing: Are there custom ROMs for the dock out there?
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CM10.1 works well with the dock, all function keys work, you will just not get the onscreen notifications that they have been pressed (and screen brightness is a bt more laggy but still works fine). if you want button press notifications for function keys you can turn them on in CM10.1 settings but they pop up in the notification drawer rather than in the darkened rectangle in the center of the screen. I think CM10.1 is worth any mild decrease in dock functionality (like no function key notifications). Not sure about the USB port on any ROMS.