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I haven't flashed to any Tom's yet, but this seems to be the most popular. Why is that? I looked at the change log and I don't understand what I would be gaining I guess.
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same too me, I tried it over 3.1, what I experienced:
- browser little bit slower
- more SOD
- nothing real extra feature
I have to use a custom rom for a couple of reasons:
1) My stock rom is the Chinese verison, which means no google apps or google sync. Without google, it's just not android.
2) I need the Chinese input methods. I would normally switch to the USA stock rom, but it doesn't have Chinese input. Prime does/did, Chinese handwriting input is MIA, but I'll sure it will be taken care of.
I choose to use a custom rom for these reasons:
3) I don't like excess crap on my computer. I can modify a custom rom before I install it, mostly just removing apps that I will never use.
4) Root! I love freedom on my computer. Root lets me do things. All kinds of neat things: block ads, increase speed on sd card, delete/modify system apps and directories, and lots more. Look into it, it is fun.
5) Overclock. Prime doesn't have it, but you can add a kernal that does. I currently don't overclock, but as the Tegra 2 ages, i will overclock it. I'm specifically waiting for a rom with a high GPU overclock. There is one out there that currently does have a minor GPU overclock.
6) Clockwork Recovery. Backup, restore, switch roms, clear cache and more.
Why I choose Prime:
7) Dock battery meter in the taskbar.
8) Reboot/recovery options for power button.
After looking through the current selection of roms available, I choose Prime. But I keep my eye on revolver and Clemsyn.
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I haven't flashed to any Tom's yet, but this seems to be the most popular. Why is that? I looked at the change log and I don't understand what I would be gaining I guess.
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How do you not? OP clearly states that there are optimizations made to increase load times etc etc.
No, op states "better user experience" which is very vague. Also I'm not having any slow load times, everything is pretty zippy.
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I haven't flashed to any Tom's yet, but this seems to be the most popular. Why is that? I looked at the change log and I don't understand what I would be gaining I guess.
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Last time I flashed a Tom he punched me in the face...
One reason I haven't seen mentioned would also be themes, but it is still early in the game, there are few options. Custom Roms are generally just optimized better, though the Transformer doesn't have nearly the bloat some Android devices have making them almost essential...
Honestly once you learn, it is such an easy process that flashing different roms/kernels and trying them is the only real way to know what is best for you and your usage.
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No, op states "better user experience" which is very vague. Also I'm not having any slow load times, everything is pretty zippy.
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Then why are you worrying about ROMs? It's obvious you want some of that Baconcomb so just get it already.
Honestly, I don't know why people ever need to "beg" you to try something. If you're happy with what you got already, then be happy.
"If it isn't broken, don't fix it"
If you're curious, then just do it... because all in honesty. One person's opinion is only a opinion. The only way you're going to know if it's worth it is from YOUR personal experience. I can personally say that, PRIME 1.6 and root is good and its worth it.
If you don't want to take my word for it, then don't. I'm not going to beg you to do it.
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Then why are you worrying about ROMs? It's obvious you want some of that Baconcomb so just get it already.
Honestly, I don't know why people ever need to "beg" you to try something. If you're happy with what you got already, then be happy.
"If it isn't broken, don't fix it"
If you're curious, then just do it... because all in honesty. One person's opinion is only a opinion. The only way you're going to know if it's worth it is from YOUR personal experience. I can personally say that, PRIME 1.6 and root is good and its worth it.
If you don't want to take my word for it, then don't. I'm not going to beg you to do it.
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The reason im asking is so i dont miss out on anything and obviously im looking for empiracle data to help me understand any performance benefits.
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Then why are you worrying about ROMs? It's obvious you want some of that Baconcomb so just get it already.
Honestly, I don't know why people ever need to "beg" you to try something. If you're happy with what you got already, then be happy.
"If it isn't broken, don't fix it"
If you're curious, then just do it... because all in honesty. One person's opinion is only a opinion. The only way you're going to know if it's worth it is from YOUR personal experience. I can personally say that, PRIME 1.6 and root is good and its worth it.
If you don't want to take my word for it, then don't. I'm not going to beg you to do it.
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Wow...
He asked what was the difference between stock and Prime, and you went off in another direction. He wasn't asking to be "begged" into using Prime nor asking for others to convince him into using Prime at all.
Anyways, I know Prime has a few optimizations, but I don't know if it brings any substantial changes. There's a link to download the power/recovery mod, so I suppose it could be applied to any ROM including rooted stock.
One reason I would like to root my tf101 is to be able to use a USB dongle. But I am waiting for 3.2 to come out before since I just got my tf101.
The stock version is pretty good actually. No major complaints so far.
I hav ebeen using Prime for a while but ASUS stock version is definitely quite good. Even more so for lack of garbageware that so plagues the mobile phones...
Yea I guess I'm in the same camp. I haven't seen a compelling reason to move to a different ROM versus rooted stock. There are too many posts that seem to lead users to believe that a different ROM is the same as root. Remember you can root the stock ROM. The OP is asking what user experience enhancements make Prime (or any other ROM) compelling.
If you read changelog second post it will tell you exactly what's new in the ROM. Many changes are only useful for experienced linux users, but many others are useful for everyone. The nice thing about roms is that most of the things and tweaks are already done for you. If you don't need/care about those changes then there is no point for you to reflash.
Which BXX mod did you get ?
I'm curious because I'm thinking of picking up one of these today ( the guy at Orifice Depot tried to get me to buy an Iconia, but that thing doesn't have anywhere near the support the TF is getting...)....?
Manufacturer's (ASUS included) have to be very careful about their ROM releases so they are thoroughly tested and ready to release to the general public. Consequently they are slower to release updates (i.e. NVidia updates, etc.). Custom ROMs generally consolidate the best and latest releases from various manufacturer's into the most cuttest edge versions you can possibly be running. As you'll notice this can also mean more lock-ups and weird issues since you are getting just-available changes. So if you prefer max stability, stick with the manufacturer's updates. For many of us part of the fun of owning an Android tablet is the rapid pace that custom ROMs are put out and the interesting/quirky things they bring us.
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I'm curious because I'm thinking of picking up one of these today ( the guy at Orifice Depot tried to get me to buy an Iconia, but that thing doesn't have anywhere near the support the TF is getting...)....?
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I got a B60 TF and a B60 dock from my local OD this past weekend (Denver, CO).
Prime Vs Stock
Reason why I flashed the Prime Rom. With Prime and a netflix patch I'm able to stream netflix movie. Also now Adhoc connections work. I can Wifi tehther my TF101 with my Driod using the adhoc connection. I can now easily reboot into recovery prior to this going into recovery was a bit tricky. This was not possible even with HC 3.2. Also I don't have to worry about losing root becuase of an OTA update.
I am actually a flashaholic when it comes to flashing roms on my phone. But so far, I haven't come across any compelling reasons to flash custom roms on my transformer. The need to flash roms on phones offer benefits that are non existant on a tablet. For instance, one major reason to flash custom roms on phones is to enable free wifi tethering, which obviously does not apply here. Another reason, as stated above is to remove bloatware. The transformer doesn't really have that. And yet another reason is to be able to update to the latest Android version before the official release. Correct me if i'm wrong but when I looked, the 3.2 update came out officially before any transformer custom roms had it. There are a couple more minor customizations options that I'm not seeing yet being offered by the transformer roms. I am fully aware of the speed enhancements and optimizations that custom roms offer, but considering the custom roms for the transformer are still relatively new (no disrespect or discredit to the devs for their hard work), and considering that even still now, the rooting and flashing methods keep getting outdated and changed, it's too early in this ballgame for me to flash.
I've been lurking the forums here now for a month and finally pulled the trigger, my TF get's here monday.
I have yet to see any reason to flash a custom rom or even root at this point. I'll be rooting it just to say it's rooted and just for a couple of root only programs I have. The custom roms don't really bring anything to the table that this tablet doesn't have. it has the newest version of android with all the bells and whistles. I'm not going to be overclocking. I understand netflix is big for some people, but, from what I have read flashing the fix breaks some video playback. I'm ok to wait for the official netflix patch. A 32gb MicroSD and the 16gb on board space is plenty to store movies on for travel etc. I also have a server I run at home that will stream my entire movie,. TV, and music collections directly to me.
Having the best of the best and the most up to date version of android does have it's perks
Hey. I'm pretty new here, but I've been lurking for some time now. I picked up a Transformer at BB a week ago as a replacement to my iPad 2, and I'm very impressed. I have seen many ROMs available for this device, especially Revolver. I was wondering if it is worth rooting my TF and installing Revolver. Is it really that much of a difference? The only lag I experience is when I head to the stock browser, but on Dolphin for Pad I'm fine. I know there are probably hundreds of topics like this, but I haven't found any. I just wondered whether the advantages of Revolver are worth the root. Thanks!
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Congrats i just baught one for myself late july as a B-Day present im loving it as well.
in regards to your question, it just depends. Keep in mind that Google has yet to relase the source code for Honeycomb so most roms are based on Gingerbread. Not that its a bad thing, but if your like me, i really do like the stock honeycomb interface.
Ofcoarse you could always just change roms and see how you like it, i myself am just going to wait for ICS in december/early2012
I've bought my Transformer a few days ago, and the first thing I've done is to root and flash a ROM on it.
My personal preference was to flash the latest PRIME build (which is HC3.2, the same as Revolver), as it seems like the dev seems to keep it up-to-date (even daily updates sometimes), and replies to most (if not all) issues people have... He also seems to work very hard by himself to get everything working and happy for everyone. I also have it over-clocked to 1.5GHz, and I've seen nothing but faster speeds on my Transformer and haven't noticed a big drop in battery life (I still have my Transformeron, after 30 hours of use).
The only downside is that you won't be able to receive any OTAs (Over The Air) updates straight from ASUS, but for something like PRIME, we get updates almost straight away as well through the dev that's developing it.
Before you think of rooting/romming, I suggest having a look at where you put the charger in your Transformer. There should be a black sticker that has the serial number. If it starts with B60, you're good to go. If it's B70 or above, you might want to research a bit more before trying to flash/rom (as there were some problems with the newer batch of Transformers with flashing).
But like anything, you can always keep a Titanium Backup of your apps/data and try different ROMs. (I'm thinking of trying out Revolver in a few days).
If you don't like it, you can always go back to stock anyway. Nothing big. It took me 10 minutes to flash from stock with NVFlash, so it's not really a hard process either.
if you don't know whether you should root or not, then you don't really need to root. you don't buying a hammer, then go looking for things to hammer. same with rooting.
that being said, the most generic reasons to root is 1) so you can do system backups, 2) overclocking, 3) use it as a hammer.
there are many specific reasons to root, but just as i can't list all the purposes of a hammer, i can't list all the reasons you would want to root.
it's hammer time.
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if you don't know whether you should root or not, then you don't really need to root. you don't buying a hammer, then go looking for things to hammer. same with rooting.
that being said, the most generic reasons to root is 1) so you can do system backups, 2) overclocking, 3) use it as a hammer.
there are many specific reasons to root, but just as i can't list all the purposes of a hammer, i can't list all the reasons you would want to root.
it's hammer time.
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He/she was talking about romming, not rooting. But sure, same sort of thing applies. It's really individual preferences.
Really, if you're absolutely happy with STOCK, then I suggest leaving it like that. It's sort of how there's a stock model of a car, and a tuned/modified model of the same car. One will get you from A to B faster (and maybe in more style some may argue), but both will get you to your destination in the end.
Thanks. I am eligible for the root, but I think I'll stay stock because I am not presently having any problems. All I can say is I am loving my Transformer!
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My wife's JB stock Asus TF700 is being annoying. It's laggy, audio recording hiccups and stutters and lags, and in general my Nexus 7 makes it look really bad (and it's not like she's installed a bunch of junk on it, and these problems persist after reboots/cache wipes).
I don't mind at all unlocking it and doing things like custom kernels, kernel tweaks etc. But I have a few reservations....one of the biggest is the dock with non-ASUS ROMs. I want to make sure that full dock functionality is there. That means the trackpad works, the keyboard works, the SD card slot in the keyboard works, etc. Is there any reason to be concerned about this with custom TF700 ROMs? I don't really see their descriptions addressing this.
The other question is, how likely is it I'll see the improvements I want just by putting in a custom kernel, maybe running an app like Seeder, and/or FSTrim to combat lagginess, and just otherwise leave the stock ASUS Jelly Bean on it, albeit rooted.
Hope this question hasn't been asked and answered before. I *did* search.
Randy
I run CROMI 3.2.1 on my TF700 & have no problems with my keyboard dock. keys all work, as does the SDcard.
This ROM is built off of Asus's Rom, just improved upon.
I've noticed a huge difference in my tablet since switching to CROMI over the stock ROM.
Not sure about just putting in a new kernel though.
Someone else might be able to answer that better.
I'm running CROMI 3.2 + ubuntu on dualboot (rabits) and even with the custom kernel, everything related to the dock works on the android side (the SD reader on the dock is a little problematic while running linux but that is kind of to be expected with an alpha build)
I would go with the newest CleanRom Inheritance (CROMI) and run one of clemsyn's kernels with it.
Stupid fast (compared to stock at least)
I'm also running with fsync disabled, and the performance difference is definitely noticeable.
Also running CROMI 3.2.1, everything works as with the stock ROM, just much, much better!
On stock I was ok with this tablet, got it for the flexibility and keyboard and put up with the lagginess.
Now I absolutely love it! So much fun!
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If you're really worried about dock support, go the CROMI route -- I'm another proponent and use it myself. It is INSANE how much difference it makes. The lay-out and general user experience is the same, so the transition is... hell, it's not even small or negligible, it's just absent.
Do yourself and your wife a favor and flash CROMI. I warn you, however: once done, there's no way you're going back to stock, and even the other ROMs probably lose to CROMI (by maybe a small margin, I haven't tested lately sicne I'm really happy with the performance as is).
Sweet!! Thanks, guys! I'll give it a go. Looks like others are saying the ASUS unlocker will work on the JB stock ROM so, presumably I no longer have to worry about going through the 'downgrade' to ICS first...
Recommendations on the recovery? CWM? TWRP?
Thanks,
Randy
PS You may have gathered this, but I've been doing this with phones & tablets for a long time with Android, so I'm not 'new' to it, I just didn't know how to deal with the wildcard of the dock thrown in the mix.
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Sweet!! Thanks, guys! I'll give it a go. Looks like others are saying the ASUS unlocker will work on the JB stock ROM so, presumably I no longer have to worry about going through the 'downgrade' to ICS first...
Recommendations on the recovery? CWM? TWRP?
Thanks,
Randy
PS You may have gathered this, but I've been doing this with phones & tablets for a long time with Android, so I'm not 'new' to it, I just didn't know how to deal with the wildcard of the dock thrown in the mix.
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TWRP, no doubt, but not the latest version, stay with TWRP version 2.3.1.0 (first choice) or 2.3.3.0(second choice).
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TWRP, no doubt, but not the latest version, stay with TWRP version 2.3.1.0 (first choice) or 2.3.3.0(second choice).
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Hehehe, here's where opinions start differing. I'm a CWM guy, but probably due to having learned where everything is. I believe the current versions of TWRP are really good, and since they're friendlier to learn (and operate, I guess) there's no shame in using TWRP, and whichever one you happen to choose doesn't really matter since they perform the most important tasks equally well.
One real advantage of TWRP is being able to use GooManager to update it on the device itself. As I think of it now, now I've had to tape the tablet inside the dock, I'm probably going to have to go the TWRP route myself soon... (I don't know if I can fastboot through the dock. Ugh)
Still, I vote CWM.
Don't forget to get your nvflash backup setup first...
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JB stock
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Don't forget to get your nvflash backup setup first...
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Too late.
buhohitr said:
TWRP, no doubt, but not the latest version, stay with TWRP version 2.3.1.0 (first choice) or 2.3.3.0(second choice).
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Last couple of versions of TWRP feel a bit like betas to me. It offers a brilliant interface but it's a bit disconcerting that it can freeze anywhere in the flash process. I've switched to CWM and whilst it is incredibly slow in comparison to TWRP it is at least stable.
Hey all,
Just got the Infinity Pad, and I love it!
Well, almost... I'm still going to root and flash the thing...
Anyway, I just want to ask what people's experience with the dock is. I know it has its own firmware, and I also know that there are changes in how things work once I plug it in. I don't want to lose this functionality , so I wanted to check first.
Are there any issues that pop up at all when flashing the tablet, or do all of the features work? I still want the second battery meter and the multi-touch capabilities on the trackpad, for example. Also, while I'm here, one more thing: Are there custom ROMs for the dock out there?
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Hey all,
Just got the Infinity Pad, and I love it!
Well, almost... I'm still going to root and flash the thing...
Anyway, I just want to ask what people's experience with the dock is. I know it has its own firmware, and I also know that there are changes in how things work once I plug it in. I don't want to lose this functionality , so I wanted to check first.
Are there any issues that pop up at all when flashing the tablet, or do all of the features work? I still want the second battery meter and the multi-touch capabilities on the trackpad, for example. Also, while I'm here, one more thing: Are there custom ROMs for the dock out there?
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CleanRom will work with the dock as the stock. I am not sure of the other ROMs out there but I know 100% that Cromi does work with the dock. Whatever issues that pop up in Cromi can be reported to sbdags and he will do what he can. And I am not sure about the firmware for the dock. The firmware updates for the dock come with the ota Asus updates I believe.
Tylor
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CleanRom will work with the dock as the stock. I am not sure of the other ROMs out there but I know 100% that Cromi does work with the dock. Whatever issues that pop up in Cromi can be reported to sbdags and he will do what he can. And I am not sure about the firmware for the dock. The firmware updates for the dock come with the ota Asus updates I believe.
Tylor
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I second that completely. In my case, I had the dock when I was at stock JB ROM and now after switching to the CROMI v3.4.4 the keydock experience simply is the same. All the keys are working, including the special keys like settings, screen brightness, volume, browser etc. Also the touch pad comes in handy, including the swiping and pinch to zoom.
What's not clear to me is the firmware thing. As far as I know the dock firmware is part of the stock ROM, like being a particular folder somewhere in the systems area. As such, I suspect it should be part of CROMI as well. What I don't know is what triggers an update process in the case there is new firmware.
All the same, I also don't know how all the other ROMs out there are working. With CROMI it does.
EDIT: Forgot to mention: (with CROMI) you will have the second battery meter, including the Asus widget.
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And I am not sure about the firmware for the dock. The firmware updates for the dock come with the ota Asus updates I believe.
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What's not clear to me is the firmware thing. As far as I know the dock firmware is part of the stock ROM, like being a particular folder somewhere in the systems area. As such, I suspect it should be part of CROMI as well. What I don't know is what triggers an update process in the case there is new firmware.
All the same, I also don't know how all the other ROMs out there are working. With CROMI it does.
EDIT: Forgot to mention: (with CROMI) you will have the second battery meter, including the Asus widget.
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Tylorw and FordPrefect have answered the questions regarding the functionality already, and I have nothing to add to their descrption: it simply works on CROMI. On other ROMs there are (sometimes many) issues -- in their beginnings, the shortcuts were not working at all, and with some of them we have seen this problem creep up every time a major update was issued. Also, certain ASUS-specific functionality, like the IPS/IPS+ toggle is not (and possibly will never be) available with non-stock-based ROMs.
mini-TL;DR: if you really vallue full dock functionality, stay with CROMI.
Regarding the dockfirmware updates: we've had a CleamROM update (so Scott's original CROM, not sbdags' CROMI) that included firmware updates for the camera and the touchpad. I have no idea where ASUS hides them -- I didn't bother looking that up -- but it just shows you could still receive updates to the (dock) firmware if you're going the stock-based custom ROM route...
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Tylorw and FordPrefect have answered the questions regarding the functionality already, and I have nothing to add to their descrption: it simply works on CROMI. On other ROMs there are (sometimes many) issues -- in their beginnings, the shortcuts were not working at all, and with some of them we have seen this problem creep up every time a major update was issued. Also, certain ASUS-specific functionality, like the IPS/IPS+ toggle is not (and possibly will never be) available with non-stock-based ROMs.
mini-TL;DR: if you really vallue full dock functionality, stay with CROMI.
Regarding the dockfirmware updates: we've had a CleamROM update (so Scott's original CROM, not sbdags' CROMI) that included firmware updates for the camera and the touchpad. I have no idea where ASUS hides them -- I didn't bother looking that up -- but it just shows you could still receive updates to the (dock) firmware if you're going the stock-based custom ROM route...
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Thanks guys for your help, I'm glad I asked, since you listed some issues with other ROMs. I'll play around with this thing this weekend, and try out CROMI .
Once again, I appreciate the help. I'm not always sure anymore, message boards used to be the safe place for the most noob question, nowadays, it's hit and miss...
Flashed mine last week to CROMI and first thing I check were all the keys. Everything seemed good and the double widget worked for me as well. I have had to much time to play and didn't check to see if my firmware on the dock was old. I I'll check that tonight.
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Will anything change with my dock
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Short answer is no
Both CM10.1 (by now) and CRomI make advantage of the dock, and although my prefence goes to CRomI, I have seen great development in the CM10.1 section, more specifically how the rom makes use of the dock.
So no worries!
Root it and have a much faster (almost blazing) piece of aesthetic machinery!
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Thanks guys for your help, I'm glad I asked, since you listed some issues with other ROMs. I'll play around with this thing this weekend, and try out CROMI .
Once again, I appreciate the help. I'm not always sure anymore, message boards used to be the safe place for the most noob question, nowadays, it's hit and miss...
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I'm sure yo uwill not be disappointed, and with issues, we're here to help as well as we can.
As far as the noob bashing is concerned: it's not too bad in here. I'm possibly one of the most agressive members -- at least as far as cases of non-reading are concerned. Some people just can't be bothered to use the search function, or even glance over the 5 similarly named topics on the first page of a forum ("howz do I n00b root JB?"), and sometimes that really gets to me. Or people being unappreciative of the many hours of life we all put in here, especially our great devs. It's a calling of some dubous sort, but still it's a hobby, it's not a paid job.
Yours was a legitimate question, though, so as far as I am concerned you're in the clear. Hahaha!
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I'm sure yo uwill not be disappointed, and with issues, we're here to help as well as we can.
As far as the noob bashing is concerned: it's not too bad in here. I'm possibly one of the most agressive members -- at least as far as cases of non-reading are concerned. Some people just can't be bothered to use the search function, or even glance over the 5 similarly named topics on the first page of a forum ("howz do I n00b root JB?"), and sometimes that really gets to me. Or people being unappreciative of the many hours of life we all put in here, especially our great devs. It's a calling of some dubous sort, but still it's a hobby, it's not a paid job.
Yours was a legitimate question, though, so as far as I am concerned you're in the clear. Hahaha!
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Yeah, the biggest offender in user forums has been Adobe. Back around 2002, '03, when I was still in school, they were a great way to figure out how to use new tools, and work your way through problems. Eventually they turned into a superiority-fest, with nothing but flaming. You'd mention that you needed to handle files a certain way, or use certain file formats, and instead of help, you'd just get a bunch of replies calling you a moron for doing the proces the way you were doing it, stuff like that. It got bad enough that I quit using them altogether after 4-5 years of referring people to them whenever possible.
I've been staying away from this board only because I'm not a dev, just a user, and I figured this was a little above my pay grade, so to speak, but over the last couple of years, I've ended up here more and more, so I'm really liking the community! :good:
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Yeah, the biggest offender in user forums has been Adobe. Back around 2002, '03, when I was still in school, they were a great way to figure out how to use new tools, and work your way through problems. Eventually they turned into a superiority-fest, with nothing but flaming. You'd mention that you needed to handle files a certain way, or use certain file formats, and instead of help, you'd just get a bunch of replies calling you a moron for doing the proces the way you were doing it, stuff like that. It got bad enough that I quit using them altogether after 4-5 years of referring people to them whenever possible.
I've been staying away from this board only because I'm not a dev, just a user, and I figured this was a little above my pay grade, so to speak, but over the last couple of years, I've ended up here more and more, so I'm really liking the community! :good:
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Most of us are not developers themselves, but just well-meaning halfnoobs. (I'm speaking for myself here, no need for anyone else to feel offended. ) XDA is OK, but a little sometimes not-so-)friendly 'policing' has to be done to keep it that way. Sometimes it only takes a little nudge -- I'd rather have us cleanse ourselves than to be dependent on a moderator for every single time something small happens. These guys -- although REALLY relaxed in our parts -- do have a lot to deal with without us giving them more to do. If it really gets too hot too handle, I mostly back out anyway, or go the PM route.
CM10.1 plays nice with dock.
Mikey1969 said:
Hey all,
Just got the Infinity Pad, and I love it!
Well, almost... I'm still going to root and flash the thing...
Anyway, I just want to ask what people's experience with the dock is. I know it has its own firmware, and I also know that there are changes in how things work once I plug it in. I don't want to lose this functionality , so I wanted to check first.
Are there any issues that pop up at all when flashing the tablet, or do all of the features work? I still want the second battery meter and the multi-touch capabilities on the trackpad, for example. Also, while I'm here, one more thing: Are there custom ROMs for the dock out there?
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CM10.1 works well with the dock, all function keys work, you will just not get the onscreen notifications that they have been pressed (and screen brightness is a bt more laggy but still works fine). if you want button press notifications for function keys you can turn them on in CM10.1 settings but they pop up in the notification drawer rather than in the darkened rectangle in the center of the screen. I think CM10.1 is worth any mild decrease in dock functionality (like no function key notifications). Not sure about the USB port on any ROMS.
I'm getting my tablet Monday and I really don't want to have to flash different roms just to find one that works best.
I prefer Cyanogen stuff, I'm running the nightlies on my Razr Maxx HD, and would like to continue using it on a tablet. HOWEVER, it seems that Cromi has a more developed ROM. Am I wrong? What do you guys think is the best rom and why?
yugendreams said:
I'm getting my tablet Monday and I really don't want to have to flash different roms just to find one that works best.
I prefer Cyanogen stuff, I'm running the nightlies on my Razr Maxx HD, and would like to continue using it on a tablet. HOWEVER, it seems that Cromi has a more developed ROM. Am I wrong? What do you guys think is the best rom and why?
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CROMi-X obviously
Try a few out though - see what you think.
yugendreams said:
I'm getting my tablet Monday and I really don't want to have to flash different roms just to find one that works best.
I prefer Cyanogen stuff, I'm running the nightlies on my Razr Maxx HD, and would like to continue using it on a tablet. HOWEVER, it seems that Cromi has a more developed ROM. Am I wrong? What do you guys think is the best rom and why?
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Wait a few weeks and you may not have to decide! sbdags and _that are continuing to work on ROM2SD for CROMi-X! Run his rom on internal and another rom on your microSD. Already works for CROMi-X, miniCROMi-X, but CM is coming - I can feel it
Linux is where the real funs at
JoinTheRealms said:
Linux is where the real funs at
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If only I had the time to study.....:crying:
yugendreams said:
I'm getting my tablet Monday and I really don't want to have to flash different roms just to find one that works best.
I prefer Cyanogen stuff, I'm running the nightlies on my Razr Maxx HD, and would like to continue using it on a tablet. HOWEVER, it seems that Cromi has a more developed ROM. Am I wrong? What do you guys think is the best rom and why?
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Cromi-x is highly recommended, but on my tablet it did run well at all. I would recommend going with cyan based rom, I run cyan on all my other android devices and i could not get used to the Asus based roms at all.
Currently running CMB even without data2sd like cromi-x had it way smoother and hasn't crashed yet. Plus has all the cyan features i know and love...
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk 4
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Cromi-x is highly recommended, but on my tablet it did run well at all. I would recommend going with cyan based rom, I run cyan on all my other android devices and i could not get used to the Asus based roms at all.
Currently running CMB even without data2sd like cromi-x had it way smoother and hasn't crashed yet. Plus has all the cyan features i know and love...
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk 4
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You are the first person to say that so must be something else you did to cause poor performance.
I'd love to get you up and running properly on cromi-x.
sbdags said:
You are the first person to say that so must be something else you did to cause poor performance.
I'd love to get you up and running properly on cromi-x.
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@sjgieson
His rom, sbdags, is very fast and smooth. I don't know how are we going to accurately measure the speed of the tf700t. According to most of the testers, all the measurement apps are lied and can not be trusted but fast and smooth are even worst because there are no data or numbers associating with the test data to back up the conclusion. Otherwise, we can test them side by side... It is just my opinion and don't kill me if I am saying something wrong...
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@sjgieson
His rom, sbdags, is very fast and smooth. I don't know how are we going to accurately measure the speed of the tf700t. According to most of the testers, all the measurement apps are lied and can not be trusted but fast and smooth are even worst because there are no data or numbers associating with the test data to back up the conclusion. Otherwise, we can test them side by side... It is just my opinion and don't kill me if I am saying something wrong...
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I have had the TF700 for just a few weeks, but go back Droid1 days with running custom roms. Current devices is a Gnex running experimental KitKat, and Nexus 7 that is the wives DD running 10.1.
My experience with TF is as follows get device, unlock, try to load custom rom find out USB data port is DOA, return device, get new one, take two days to get unlock app to work (just kept trying) rejoiced due to unlocking, download Cromi latests, flashed with DATA2SD and choosing Hunds kernel. Running it that way for about 10 days, getting frustrated and returning to CM based ROM (I have ran CM on GNEX and previous devices 80-90% of the time).
First off, let me say I may be wrong about my Cromi situation and probably should have held off posting my experiences. In the last 24 hours I have spent a lot more time on these forums and have sdbags 1:1 helping me getting Data2SD up and running on CM based 4.3 rom. I have been reading more of the posts instead of just skimming them loooking for what I need to fix something and move on. I have to say I am impressed at folks here (specifically _that and sdbags), their ingenuity and expertise (not mention willingness to contribute) is impressively and rarely seen these days in my opinion.
To answer your question about speed, yes, Cromi-x was fast, by far the fastest 4.2 rom to date on any device I have ran. I am sure this is due to Data2SD and the many many tweaks that have been made. However I know 4.2 is plagued by no trim, and at least on my Gnex 4.3 based roms are more responsive (less times hung with no response) than 4.2 roms. So first off I have bad taste in my mouth with anything related to 4.2 because of my Gnex experiences (probably wrong way to look at things I know). So going in I was little worried about 4.2 based.
Here is a list of annoyances with the rom being based on Asus and not AOSP:
Pulldown menu (pull up in the table interface) not being Googles menu (why change it)
Softkeyboard layout (trying to get the at symbol), no swiping (IIRC)
No cCLOCK widget (I wish I didn't like that CM thing so much...)
None of those were deal breakers, I had planned on addressing those eventually but the following occured:
First boot, confirmed data2sd was working, ran benchmarks, was impressed how well it ran etc. Installed my apps, all was good with the world love at first boot....
Sat it down on table (was in dock) rebooted, came back up to welcome screen, lock tablet was restore to factory. Perplexed, I reinstalled my apps, and went about my merry way (never re-ran benchmarks or really looked into the files system too much, my bad).
Next few days crashed reboots occurred randomly (maybe due to the Hunds OC kernel, should have tried stock kernel i suppose)
Finally one day a reboot occured and I rebooted back into my original environment I had setup in the first few hours of Cromi, my data from the environment I was in appeared lost. At this point the annoyances listed above (related to Asus, not the Cromi-rom) were too much.
I wiped everthing (even formated SD card), and went to CMB (why I didn't go striaght 10.2 I don't know). I have not had one single reboot/crash since the move, it is pretty peppy and I am getting really good benchmarks for not having data2sd installed, which is odd. If I didn't see how fast cromi was, I wouldn't be looking to get data2sd back as of right now i feel like 4.3 AOSP with data2sd has to be faster than 4.2 ASUS w/ data2sd.
Obviously, after writing the above issues I didn't follow good trouble shooting practices and perhaps made emotional not logical decisions.
sbdags - I will give Cromi-X another go
sjgieson said:
I have had the TF700 for just a few weeks, but go back Droid1 days with running custom roms. Current devices is a Gnex running experimental KitKat, and Nexus 7 that is the wives DD running 10.1.
My experience with TF is as follows get device, unlock, try to load custom rom find out USB data port is DOA, return device, get new one, take two days to get unlock app to work (just kept trying) rejoiced due to unlocking, download Cromi latests, flashed with DATA2SD and choosing Hunds kernel. Running it that way for about 10 days, getting frustrated and returning to CM based ROM (I have ran CM on GNEX and previous devices 80-90% of the time).
First off, let me say I may be wrong about my Cromi situation and probably should have held off posting my experiences. In the last 24 hours I have spent a lot more time on these forums and have sdbags 1:1 helping me getting Data2SD up and running on CM based 4.3 rom. I have been reading more of the posts instead of just skimming them loooking for what I need to fix something and move on. I have to say I am impressed at folks here (specifically _that and sdbags), their ingenuity and expertise (not mention willingness to contribute) is impressively and rarely seen these days in my opinion.
To answer your question about speed, yes, Cromi-x was fast, by far the fastest 4.2 rom to date on any device I have ran. I am sure this is due to Data2SD and the many many tweaks that have been made. However I know 4.2 is plagued by no trim, and at least on my Gnex 4.3 based roms are more responsive (less times hung with no response) than 4.2 roms. So first off I have bad taste in my mouth with anything related to 4.2 because of my Gnex experiences (probably wrong way to look at things I know). So going in I was little worried about 4.2 based.
Here is a list of annoyances with the rom being based on Asus and not AOSP:
Pulldown menu (pull up in the table interface) not being Googles menu (why change it)
Softkeyboard layout (trying to get the at symbol), no swiping (IIRC)
No cCLOCK widget (I wish I didn't like that CM thing so much...)
None of those were deal breakers, I had planned on addressing those eventually but the following occured:
First boot, confirmed data2sd was working, ran benchmarks, was impressed how well it ran etc. Installed my apps, all was good with the world love at first boot....
Sat it down on table (was in dock) rebooted, came back up to welcome screen, lock tablet was restore to factory. Perplexed, I reinstalled my apps, and went about my merry way (never re-ran benchmarks or really looked into the files system too much, my bad).
Next few days crashed reboots occurred randomly (maybe due to the Hunds OC kernel, should have tried stock kernel i suppose)
Finally one day a reboot occured and I rebooted back into my original environment I had setup in the first few hours of Cromi, my data from the environment I was in appeared lost. At this point the annoyances listed above (related to Asus, not the Cromi-rom) were too much.
I wiped everthing (even formated SD card), and went to CMB (why I didn't go striaght 10.2 I don't know). I have not had one single reboot/crash since the move, it is pretty peppy and I am getting really good benchmarks for not having data2sd installed, which is odd. If I didn't see how fast cromi was, I wouldn't be looking to get data2sd back as of right now i feel like 4.3 AOSP with data2sd has to be faster than 4.2 ASUS w/ data2sd.
Obviously, after writing the above issues I didn't follow good trouble shooting practices and perhaps made emotional not logical decisions.
sbdags - I will give Cromi-X another go
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Wow, thanks for the good explanation... What I said was just my opinion, I hope that you are not offended..
Also, there is a trim supported on Cromi X but that would depend on the version of the kernel. You can ask _that or sbdags to help you mount it if it is not currently mounting as an option...
Good luck...:fingers-crossed:
Nope no offense taken! As you had a point .
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk 4
The only time I experience a crashing application is with boat browser. I leave the setting for flash set to always on and flash itself isn't a clean application. That is what causes my tablet to force close the app. I've not experienced the rebooting that I did running pure stock Asus firmware either and it otherwise runs perfect.
Maybe try using one of _that's OC kernals. While not as fast as hunds, they are stable and still offer a greater experience than stock. I haven't found needed to use the 1.8ghz performance mode in his kernals and for my needs the balanced setting at 1.3ghz works fine. The extra boost is there if needed.
Speed doesn't mean you will have the best user experience from the tablet. While hardware specs are meant to be the same for all TF700s, each component is different due to the manufacturing process for each tablet assembled. The CPU/components in your tablet may not play nice with hunds kernal.
a very good one
try cmbroms running 4.3.1 but very close to building 4.4 weekly updates and there great love it. if you have any question there team is very fast to respond http://forum.xda-developers.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=47629521:cowboy:
I have been running Cromi-X 5.1 for a few weeks now and it works great.
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were running cmbroms over here and loving it i hear from up the grapevine there getting kitkate soon so will be getting 4.4.1 cant wait the 4.3.1 is solid as a rock and i build them myself on my linix machine loving it
yugendreams said:
I'm getting my tablet Monday and I really don't want to have to flash different roms just to find one that works best.
I prefer Cyanogen stuff, I'm running the nightlies on my Razr Maxx HD, and would like to continue using it on a tablet. HOWEVER, it seems that Cromi has a more developed ROM. Am I wrong? What do you guys think is the best rom and why?
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Cromi-X will be a good option. I think it give you more freedom to install what you want a bit more flexible.
sbdags said:
You are the first person to say that so must be something else you did to cause poor performance.
I'd love to get you up and running properly on cromi-x.
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Hello and greetings from new user of TF700T.
I have been using this ROM for 3 days and I can say while the performance of cromi-x is not poor, it's not great either. Certainly better than CM11 (tried that before switching to cromi-x), but navigating the entire Android OS still feels sluggish. Not to say my TF700T is always slow, but tapping home button for instance, could take me 2-3 seconds before it starts reacting. When I open any apps, the transition animation is also sluggish, which is worse if I navigate apps from recent apps button. Lastly and the worst, Google Now and Google Now Launcher are very unpleasant to use, freezes on the opening and lags almost on the entire time.
I wonder if this kind of experience normal in TF700T considering the tablet is 2 years old? Or there are some tweaks I missed? I am currently running CROMi-X 5.4 Xenogenesis DEODEX.
For whatever the reason is, I'm still thankful for such a great ROM. It's the guys like you who make Android different and beautiful
Anggrian said:
Hello and greetings from new user of TF700T.
I have been using this ROM for 3 days and I can say while the performance of cromi-x is not poor, it's not great either. Certainly better than CM11 (tried that before switching to cromi-x), but navigating the entire Android OS still feels sluggish. Not to say my TF700T is always slow, but tapping home button for instance, could take me 2-3 seconds before it starts reacting. When I open any apps, the transition animation is also sluggish, which is worse if I navigate apps from recent apps button.
I wonder if this kind of experience normal in TF700T considering the tablet is 2 years old? Or there are some tweaks I missed? I am currently running CROMi-X 5.4 Xenogenesis DEODEX.
For whatever the reason is, I'm still thankful for such a great ROM. It's the guys like you who make Android different and beautiful
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Would you like to try my Extreme Tweaks, ET? Give it a shot and tell us what you think...:laugh:
Will hold on to this ROM for a week. If there is no possible improvement could be made, I'll different ROMs, your Extreme Tweaks, and basically anything dangerous
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Anggrian said:
Will hold on to this ROM for a week. If there is no possible improvement could be made, I'll different ROMs, your Extreme Tweaks, and basically anything dangerous
Sent from my Nexus 5 using XDA Free mobile app
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Actually, it is a part of the Cromi X v5.4. It is working fine with Cromi X ROM only and never test with other ROMs. It is running perfectly fine with all of my testers except one that he had a weird waking up issue....