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[Q] Publishing WP7.x xaps

Hi, quite recently i dived into wp app development and id love to post my apps somewhere so people could try them and provide some response. But if i got it right theres a 99 bucks fee to be able to post to the ms marketplace. Is there any other nonofficial or whatever marketplace or something?
Tldr: where to post my xaps for people to try without spending fortune?
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cahir_cz said:
Hi, quite recently i dived into wp app development and id love to post my apps somewhere so people could try them and provide some response. But if i got it right theres a 99 bucks fee to be able to post to the ms marketplace. Is there any other nonofficial or whatever marketplace or something?
Tldr: where to post my xaps for people to try without spending fortune?
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There are a few routes you can go. The downside is that the users (including you) who you wish to use your app will have to be developer unlocked at the minimum (There's also InterOp Unlocked and Fully Unlocked. You'll have to search the forum to find out information on that). There is a homebrew marketplace named Bazaar (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1383648) and W.I.N.C.O App Store (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1668020)
It's always best to create a thread to display your app so that users can know what the purpose of the app is and a place for the users to go to for support. Also, creating beta testing pools helps out a lot. See what I did for R1ng3d in my signature.
I hope this helped out,
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Splashtop 2 HD free for limited time!!!

yep, thats right!!
free only for an unspecified amount of time.
Splashtop 2 HD

Just tried it. Works pretty good. Thanks

Read some of the reviews, I'll stick with the version built into My Cloud.

Its only free if your on the same network. If you are on different networks, it makes you pay.
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Yep - better off staying with the version built-in to the Transformer - it's completely free, even for "over-the-internet" connections (there is a monthly fee for that part in V2)...
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or you can get it free, pay 10 bucks a year and play skyrim and diablo 3 anywhere on your tablet.... that alone is worth 10 bucks.

Does anyone know if there are differences in this over the THD optimized version? I bought it back when it was on sale, and curious as to if the "optimizations" were rolled into the v2 release. At the time of the THD release, there was only splashtop, and splashtop hd.

vegandroid said:
or you can get it free, pay 10 bucks a year and play skyrim and diablo 3 anywhere on your tablet.... that alone is worth 10 bucks.
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But you can do that for free with the exiting version.... no need to pay a monthly fee with V1 and it supports over-the-internet connection s as well...
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jtrosky said:
But you can do that for free with the exiting version.... no need to pay a monthly fee with V1 and it supports over-the-internet connection s as well...
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i believe the thd version is the only one that lets you play the games.

I tried it working great. But never tried the implemented one. Will compare...
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I play MSN Spades with no problem.
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vegandroid said:
i believe the thd version is the only one that lets you play the games.
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You can play games using any version of Splashtop, including the version that is included with the Transformers... It has no idea what you are actually doing - it just replicates the screen output...
My recommendation to folks looking to use Splashtop is to try the free version that comes with your device (under MyCloud) first - it will most likely do what you need and allow-over-internet access without a monthly fee...
I just really dislike how the developer decided to start charging a monthly fee for something that was completely free in the previous version. Especially since some folks paid for V1, which is now basically a dead product (sure, you can still use it, but I wouldn't expect any updates) - the developer would rather you "upgrade" to V2 and charge a monthly fee... That and the fact that iPad users get the same V2 without the monthly free just annoys me...
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jtrosky said:
I just really dislike how the developer decided to start charging a monthly fee for something that was completely free in the previous version.
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It's nice of you to inform folks what asus mycloud can do in case they don't know, but getting this while it's free doesn't obligate anyone to get a subscription. Nor does it prevent them from using asus mycloud whenever they're on an outside network and using this over the same network. Anyone who doesn't grab this while it's free is nuts.
Further, they are NOT charging a monthly fee for something that was free in the previous version because what's available in ST2 was not available in ST1. ST1 used google chat's api to help you phone home with limited security. ST2 uses splashtop's own servers to do so and uses a great deal more security. They're charging (a modest sum) for something different. The fact that you don't value what has changed does not mean that nothing has changed.
The developer is fantastic and has done nothing wrong. They don't deserve to be trashed, especially every other freaking post across two different threads. They are in fact doing a pretty generous giveaway here. Every single Infinity user will retain free external access through mycloud even if they grab this newest version and secure for themselves all the features that will come to it.

I'm not "Trashing" anyone - just stating facts. While the means may be different, the end result is that you can do the same thing in V1 for free, for which there is a monthly fee in V2. Wouldn't you be upset if you paid for V1, only to find that the dev has moved on to V2 (with a subscription model for some features), especially when every other Android product includes free upgrades?
Typically, with any other Android product, users get all future product upgrades for free, without losing functionality - that's the way Play store upgrades work. All that they had to do is leave the option to continue to use Google servers for over-the-internet access in V2 - in other words, give the use the choice on how they should connect over the internet (and at what price). Instead, they chose to make V2 a "separate" product (while still trying to capitalize on the SplashTop name). They way they handled this is very shady - just take a look at their reviews for V2 - I'm not alone here!
Everyone is free to do what they want - I'm just letting everyone know that there is now a monthly fee for over-the-internet access. That's not so obvious at first. I just urge folks to try V1 before paying a monthly fee for V2 - that's it. Also, I will not support a developer does does these types of things in order to get around the "free upgrade" policy of the play store...
But, as always people are free to do as they wish, just like I am free to state my opinions in as many threads as I like, thank you very much!
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Not every other Android product includes unlimited eternal free major upgrades. And no, I'm clearly not upset, as they aren't taking what I paid for away from me. Everyone is still perfectly free to continue to use ST1, even alongside ST2. And here, the upgrade IS FREE. A particular service is being charged for (and said charge is even waived for a year for past buyers). The fact that others are whining about it too doesn't make it shady. I don't know if you noticed, but you can't throw a rock on the internet without hitting someone whining about something.
jtrosky said:
But, as always people are free to do as they wish, just like I am free to state my opinions in as many threads as I like, thank you very much!
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I can maintain they don't deserve to be trashed as often as you can maintain they do, thank you very much!

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Not every other Android product includes unlimited eternal free major upgrades.
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Such as? I've never had to pay for an app upgrade in Android - I'm curious as to what app(s) you are referring to...
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For starters, how about the thousands of HD/Tablet versions of apps that mostly contain only a slight interface tweak -- fewer changes than splashtop 2 has compared to 1. Care to name some apps who promise eternal major upgrades for free? At the end of the day, anyone who continues to invest and add features to premium software is going to draw a line and spin off a new version. That the android platform is young and its devs haven't done this as often as those on older platforms doesn't change this longstanding truth of software.
Splashtop's biggest mistake here might have been in naming. If they'd called it Splashtop Secure, there would probably be less of a fuss.

When i said you can play games, i do not mean freecell, spider solitaire and your regular games. ive been playing skyrim, diablo 3 and portal 2 on this. The first version would also NOT let me play skyrim or any other game for that matter.
i tried the first version and i can DEFINITELY see the upgrades, i dont see how they could be missed.
jtrosky said:
But, as always people are free to do as they wish, just like I am free to state my opinions in as many threads as I like, thank you very much!
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this is not facebook or twitter, this is a developer forum. those kinds of opinions dont belong here.

fortunz said:
For starters, how about the thousands of HD/Tablet versions of apps that mostly contain only a slight interface tweak -- fewer changes than splashtop 2 has compared to 1. Care to name some apps who promise eternal major upgrades for free? At the end of the day, anyone who continues to invest and add features to premium software is going to draw a line and spin off a new version. That the android platform is young and its devs haven't done this as often as those on older platforms doesn't change this longstanding truth of software.
Splashtop's biggest mistake here might have been in naming. If they'd called it Splashtop Secure, there would probably be less of a fuss.
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Again, I've *never* had to pay for an app upgrade in Android - whether it be a minor or major release.
I'm really curious now - what specific app has charged for a major upgrade??
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vegandroid said:
this is not facebook or twitter, this is a developer forum. those kinds of opinions dont belong here.
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What kind of opinions are you referring to?? Regardless of what type of forum this is, I'm still entitled to my opinion!
Are you suggesting that it's "improper" to criticize a developer, simply because this is a "development forum"?? Give me a break.
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fortunzfavor said:
For starters, how about the thousands of HD/Tablet versions of apps that mostly contain only a slight interface tweak -- fewer changes than splashtop 2 has compared to 1.
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Again, I've *never* had to pay for an app upgrade in Android - whether it be a minor or major release.
I'm really curious now - what specific app has charged for a major upgrade??
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I've been as specific as you have. But okay, buying Quickoffice Pro doesn't keep you from paying for Quickoffice Pro HD. Buying mobilenoter se doesn't get you mobilenoter se HD, and on and on and on and on and on. Same programs, slightly different UI. Was that level of specificity really required? Have you really never seen HD versions of apps that I referenced above? Versions that are increasingly unnecessary since ICS and up support multiple UIs per apk.
As to the major upgrades, my point on software economics above stands. No one is going to keep endlessly supporting a piece of software once it has saturated its intended market and there are few if any new sales to made. At that point, they'll spin it off with new features and a new price tag, go in app payment on new features, or abandon the project altogether. Android is a young platform, so that hasn't happened as often as it has on older platforms. That doesn't warrant any extra whining when it finally does happen. It's not unprecedented, it's just life.

livescribe

Has anyone used the livescribe sky?
How does this work with the Infinity?

Better question, has anyone used any livescribe products?

Haven't used any Livescribe products.
Looks very interesting tho...watched the demo vids on their website.
Pretty slick wifi pen definitely a very cool gadget!
You may get more response asking in the XDA general forum under accessories.

Thats OK said:
Haven't used any Livescribe products.
Looks very interesting tho...watched the demo vids on their website.
Pretty slick wifi pen definitely a very cool gadget!
You may get more response asking in the XDA general forum under accessories.
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Will do. Thanks

Funny you should ask- I just spent spent several days looking at it, including playing with it at BestBuy. Yesterday I decided against it. I am a college professor and was thinking about it for preparing and saving lecture notes. While it looks like a great gadget, it has some downsides for me, the most important of which is the lack of ability to erase (as far as I can see).
I ended up ordering a VuPoint Magic Wand II - which is a handheld scanner - and will allow me to scan notes to a pdf directly from any paper once I am happy with the final product. The company currently has a good deal on a "bundle". Hasn't arrived yet so I don't know just how useful it will be. Beware, there are many confusing models and it's hard to work out which is which...
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[Q] barcode scanner like in a shop?

there is an app that allow smartphone to work like a real barcode scanner used in a shop? it may be not very comfortable,but i d like avoid spend my money to buy some real barcode scanner.
it d be useful to some 'occasional cashier'.

Have you tried searching in the Playstore ?
There are a lot of apps that can scan barcodes in the PlayStore, just follow the link : Barcode Scanner @ PlayStore

You don't want to spend money on buying a scanner, OK. How do you intend to interface the phone to the computer/register to pass the barcode scanned to the application on the PC or register?

Q] barcode scanner like in a shop?
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You don't want to spend money on buying a scanner, OK. How do you intend to interface the phone to the computer/register to pass the barcode scanned to the application on the PC or register?
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i wont use computer/register.
i put a items'price database on the phone.the app use camera to get barcodes,search price in database,and calcolate amount.that s all.
well,it d be the best if the app records all the transactions in a sale database.And also do autodecrement in items price database so that i would know which item go sold out.
@verszipo,i ve tried many app in playstore,the most of them are for storekeepers and consumers

ph37rd said:
You don't want to spend money on buying a scanner, OK. How do you intend to interface the phone to the computer/register to pass the barcode scanned to the application on the PC or register?
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This can actually be done using Bluetooth. There are a lot of POS systems for Android and even iOS that interface with PC counterparts.
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FASTWEBAR said:
i wont use computer/register.
i put a items'price database on the phone.the app use camera to get barcodes,search price in database,and calcolate amount.that s all.
well,it d be the best if the app records all the transactions in a sale database.And also do autodecrement in items price database so that i would know which item go sold out.
@verszipo,i ve tried many app in playstore,the most of them are for storekeepers and consumers
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What you are describing is exactly what you are saying you tried already. You basically want an Android based POS system, this is kinda silly, unless you are using it as an outdoor vendor or to take orders at a table in a restaurant. Keeping track of your sales and your stock is possible, but you really do not want to do this on a phone. Using a large screen tablet, you might achieve what you intend to do.
I develop POS for a living, we have reseached the validity of building a device based POS and I can tell you that the use of Android/iOS devices in a POS environtment is only as a value added addon. Using it to take orders, collecting sales information from your staff who work outside of the store (ie: stand at events) and collecting data at the back door (stock transactions) is where this idea is best implemented. Only if you have a small store, with maximum 2 cashiers can you achieve this, and only if you use a Tablet where there is enough space on the screen to read your transaction easily.

cornelha said:
This can actually be done using Bluetooth. There are a lot of POS systems for Android and even iOS that interface with PC counterparts.
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What you are describing is exactly what you are saying you tried already. You basically want an Android based POS system, this is kinda silly, unless you are using it as an outdoor vendor or to take orders at a table in a restaurant. Keeping track of your sales and your stock is possible, but you really do not want to do this on a phone. Using a large screen tablet, you might achieve what you intend to do.
I develop POS for a living, we have reseached the validity of building a device based POS and I can tell you that the use of Android/iOS devices in a POS environtment is only as a value added addon. Using it to take orders, collecting sales information from your staff who work outside of the store (ie: stand at events) and collecting data at the back door (stock transactions) is where this idea is best implemented. Only if you have a small store, with maximum 2 cashiers can you achieve this, and only if you use a Tablet where there is enough space on the screen to read your transaction easily.
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yeah,it s just like say

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there are not any app that do those kind of stuff?

Office for android free for 7.0 to 10.1 ...

Hey guys! Is there anyway to deceive office so it thinks that our tablet screen size is between 7.0 to 10.1 ?!?! I don't know for example by editing build.prop or something else ?!? Do you know any way?!? Thanks.

If you're talking about MS Office, it's available for download for our tablet, directly from the Play Store and it works great. I've downloaded and installed it, and it's working fine. No editing of the build.prop needed.
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Hey OP, I just realized that you're in Iran...I'm not certain if it's available in the Play Store outside of the U.S., but have a look. I just don't know if it's a region-locked situation.

tdetroit said:
If you're talking about MS Office, it's available for download for our tablet, directly from the Play Store and it works great. I've downloaded and installed it, and it's working fine. No editing of the build.prop needed.
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Hey OP, I just realized that you're in Iran...I'm not certain if it's available in the Play Store outside of the U.S., but have a look. I just don't know if it's a region-locked situation.
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Not true, if you own a note pro or any tablet larger than 10.1 a subscription to office 360 is required to edit and/or save documents.
We'll have to wait somebody to patch such programs....

Or you could just pay for it like you are supposed to.
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wingdo said:
Or you could just pay for it like you are supposed to.
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wingdo said:
Or you could just pay for it like you are supposed to.
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Unfortunately i live in Iran and i don't have PayPal or Visa and such services to purchase office 365 subscription from a foreign website!! Because of that i was asking for a way to deceive it !!?

tdetroit said:
If you're talking about MS Office, it's available for download for our tablet, directly from the Play Store and it works great. I've downloaded and installed it, and it's working fine. No editing of the build.prop needed.
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I don't have problem downloading it!! The problem is that editing and saving documents are free for 7.0 inch to 10.1 inch tablets and our tablet is 12.2 and we need office 365 subscription for it!!

wingdo said:
Or you could just pay for it like you are supposed to.
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€120 ($140) for a word processing app that people with smaller devices can use for free? You must be joking.
If I wanted to get scammed, I'd have bought an iPad. As it stands, I'll just use Kingsoft, and Micro$oft can go rot in hell. I already paid 700 quid more for this tablet than a 10" tab costs, I will not pay 120 quid a month extra just because Micro$oft thinks it can squeeze some money out of us by discrimination.

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wingdo said:
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99 € for two to three letters a year?

Same here, not going to pay for this. Does paying for it allow saving files to the External Card? I think not.

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99 € for two to three letters a year?
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Same here, not going to pay for this. Does paying for it allow saving files to the External Card? I think not.
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So then don't use it. Just because you don't think it's worth the price asked is no reason to steal it. I use it on my Note Pro, and it's pretty much replaced my need for a laptop. To me that's worth the $ as Office 2013 is still pricey. IF you don't want to pay for it, use an alternative. It doesn't give people the right to not pay developers their asking price.
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Same here, not going to pay for this. Does paying for it allow saving files to the External Card? I think not.
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BTW, to save to the external SD card (provided you of course are rooted so any program can write to the SD card),
Save As -> This Device -> storage (near bottom) -> extSdCard -> pick your folder.

I am inclined to believe that the 12-inch android tablets are flagged out since they're closer competition to the surface line of tablets. It is what it is. I too am disappointed that I have to pay but I'm doing so since the software does give me the compatibility that I need.
I don't have a smaller tablet so I'm not sure about this but does anyone know if the applications are identical or if on the larger tablets with paid services one gets more features?

wingdo said:
So then don't use it. Just because you don't think it's worth the price asked is no reason to steal it. I use it on my Note Pro, and it's pretty much replaced my need for a laptop. To me that's worth the $ as Office 2013 is still pricey. IF you don't want to pay for it, use an alternative. It doesn't give people the right to not pay developers their asking price.
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BTW, to save to the external SD card (provided you of course are rooted so any program can write to the SD card),
Save As -> This Device -> storage (near bottom) -> extSdCard -> pick your folder.
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And I won't spend so much money for the limited editing capabilities that a small screen allows. Did you compare that price with the cost of any other application in the market? and it's only an annual fee, or do you think to be able to produce large spreadsheets with a small screen? You can just do limited things and the only plus of Microsoft's application is the claimed compatibility that can be overridden switching to the odt format or saving in pdf.
So, for my needs, I'll stay on free applications and will install Microsoft when an hack will be available and will never adhere to that silly marketing politic of Microsoft.
That's the same reason why I rooted my device, as I can't understand why I must be subject to limitations for something that is claimed to be open.

wingdo said:
So then don't use it. Just because you don't think it's worth the price asked is no reason to steal it. I use it on my Note Pro, and it's pretty much replaced my need for a laptop. To me that's worth the $ as Office 2013 is still pricey. IF you don't want to pay for it, use an alternative. It doesn't give people the right to not pay developers their asking price.
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If they charged the same price for every other tablet on the market, we'd be fine with it.
At present only NotePro 12.2 and TabPro 12.2 users have to pay for this. Everyone else doesn't.
Giving it away for free to the largest market and only charging money to a select few doesn't make sense from a commercial point of view, no matter how I look at it.
This is discrimination, plain and simple. What's next, "only gays have to pay a subscription fee"?
Why do I get to use it for free on my TabPro 8.4, but not my NotePro that's lying next to it and is owned by the same person with the same account?
"Everyone can use this road for free, except people with red cars. Those have to pay 140 quid to use the road. Why? Just because we can, and people are dumb enough to swallow it."
If you're going to pay for something that's free for everyone else, you're just naive.
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This is the EXACT same policy they use with Windows tablets except the cutoff there is 9". You can in no way say the experience between an 8" Tab and a 12" note is the same. People forking over up to 2 grand on a Surface still need a 365 subscription. It's just the way they are moving.
I too would prefer it if Microsoft didn't charge for anything, but they have to make money. Something has to pay for the team who ported this. This isn't the same as rooting, rooting gives one control of their device. You are figuring out a way to get subscription software for free.

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You can in no way say the experience between an 8" Tab and a 12" note is the same.
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Actually, yes it is.
Unless you do actual serious layout work in word(lmfao), or professional work in Excel, chances are the most sophisticated thing you'll use is Bold, Italic and Underline, combined with a list.
If I intend to do any serious layout work, I'll use Indesign, and not something as ridiculously useless as Office.
Yes, I purchased the 1200 quid Adobe CS6 master collection. No, I refuse to pay 140 quid a year for a dumb text editor.
They make their money off the fact that the subscription is for the PC version of Office. They don't need the +-500 12.2" users to make up for the costs. That's petty cash.
The real money is in the corporate licenses, for which you need one for every user on every computer for every year. And it's 10 times the price of a home edition.
There is absolutely no difference between 8", 10" and 12" for ordinary text processing if you use a bluetooth keyboard. Those are pathetic excuses to make yourself feel better about having purchased it when everyone else didn't have to.
It's like those idiots in the US who, when offered the choice between a 200 quid and 800 quid identical phone, will go for the 800 quid phone so they can feel better about the quality of the product.
I'm in marketing, these naive sentiments are how we manipulate you lot into buying our products for 400% above the original price. And you all just keep falling for it, over and over and over again. We even got people to angrily defend our manipulations when they're confronted with it. Double win.
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At least we know where you stand.
Don't think MS Office is worth the money? Steal it.
Don't think a BMW is worth the money? Steal one.
Anyone with an .edu email address can get it for $80 every four years. There is a difference between saying that you can work just fine with Hancom Office instead of Microsoft Office as opposed to saying that you prefer Microsoft Office over Hancom but would rather figure out a way to bypass Microsoft's security code so you can use it without having to pay for it.
As far as the size difference, sorry but Word on the note is much nicer to work with than Word on my Shield.

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So then don't use it. Just because you don't think it's worth the price asked is no reason to steal it. I use it on my Note Pro, and it's pretty much replaced my need for a laptop. To me that's worth the $ as Office 2013 is still pricey. IF you don't want to pay for it, use an alternative. It doesn't give people the right to not pay developers their asking price.
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Save As -> This Device -> storage (near bottom) -> extSdCard -> pick your folder.
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wingdo said:
At least we know where you stand.
Don't think MS Office is worth the money? Steal it.
Don't think a BMW is worth the money? Steal one.
Anyone with an .edu email address can get it for $80 every four years. There is a difference between saying that you can work just fine with Hancom Office instead of Microsoft Office as opposed to saying that you prefer Microsoft Office over Hancom but would rather figure out a way to bypass Microsoft's security code so you can use it without having to pay for it.
As far as the size difference, sorry but Word on the note is much nicer to work with than Word on my Shield.
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Don't agree: when you do something serious you need to open several other documents and may be a browser and your mail and all this stuff needs to be just one click away, something that a small screen simply does not allow.
Didn't you buy recently a wider screen for your desktop and still using your old monitor as a secondary screen with your laptop and/or your desktop just to have more stuff under your fingertips?
Microsoft is simply trying to force people to buy her tablets and not to make money with Android.
I repeat, the only plus I see in Microsoft is it's claimed compatibility with the desktop edition, something that most of the people have, but that is not fundamental since she had to add compatibility with the .odt format in the most recent versions of its desktop suite.
And, please, don't speak about stealing, do you guess that such policies are fair? Pay that ridiculous yearly price and be happy, but don't blame people that are thinking differently. That's a too old dispute that never got a winner.

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...You can in no way say the experience between an 8" Tab and a 12" note is the same....
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Not only that, a 12-inch tablet user costs Microsoft much more than a 8" tablet user. Licensing models that charge users of high-end hardware more, are a long-standing industry practice. In part, because users of high-end hardware drive support costs much more. The user of an 8-inch tablet is more likely to use the software just for basic text editing. Whereas the user of 12-inch tablet is more likely use more advanced features of the software for professional / commercial uses, thereby driving more support costs.
Some of the alternatives like WPS and Hancom are great, but not good enough for me for professional use. The Microsoft suite definitely does the best job of maintaining the same formatting between PC and tablet. That saves me time and gives me the option of sending a document to a client without the intermediate step of editing on a desktop first so I can see how it really looks.