Hey guys! Is there anyway to deceive office so it thinks that our tablet screen size is between 7.0 to 10.1 ?!?! I don't know for example by editing build.prop or something else ?!? Do you know any way?!? Thanks.
If you're talking about MS Office, it's available for download for our tablet, directly from the Play Store and it works great. I've downloaded and installed it, and it's working fine. No editing of the build.prop needed.
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Hey OP, I just realized that you're in Iran...I'm not certain if it's available in the Play Store outside of the U.S., but have a look. I just don't know if it's a region-locked situation.
tdetroit said:
If you're talking about MS Office, it's available for download for our tablet, directly from the Play Store and it works great. I've downloaded and installed it, and it's working fine. No editing of the build.prop needed.
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Hey OP, I just realized that you're in Iran...I'm not certain if it's available in the Play Store outside of the U.S., but have a look. I just don't know if it's a region-locked situation.
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Not true, if you own a note pro or any tablet larger than 10.1 a subscription to office 360 is required to edit and/or save documents.
We'll have to wait somebody to patch such programs....
Or you could just pay for it like you are supposed to.
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wingdo said:
Or you could just pay for it like you are supposed to.
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Unfortunately i live in Iran and i don't have PayPal or Visa and such services to purchase office 365 subscription from a foreign website!! Because of that i was asking for a way to deceive it !!?
tdetroit said:
If you're talking about MS Office, it's available for download for our tablet, directly from the Play Store and it works great. I've downloaded and installed it, and it's working fine. No editing of the build.prop needed.
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I don't have problem downloading it!! The problem is that editing and saving documents are free for 7.0 inch to 10.1 inch tablets and our tablet is 12.2 and we need office 365 subscription for it!!
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€120 ($140) for a word processing app that people with smaller devices can use for free? You must be joking.
If I wanted to get scammed, I'd have bought an iPad. As it stands, I'll just use Kingsoft, and Micro$oft can go rot in hell. I already paid 700 quid more for this tablet than a 10" tab costs, I will not pay 120 quid a month extra just because Micro$oft thinks it can squeeze some money out of us by discrimination.
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99 € for two to three letters a year?
Same here, not going to pay for this. Does paying for it allow saving files to the External Card? I think not.
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Same here, not going to pay for this. Does paying for it allow saving files to the External Card? I think not.
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So then don't use it. Just because you don't think it's worth the price asked is no reason to steal it. I use it on my Note Pro, and it's pretty much replaced my need for a laptop. To me that's worth the $ as Office 2013 is still pricey. IF you don't want to pay for it, use an alternative. It doesn't give people the right to not pay developers their asking price.
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Same here, not going to pay for this. Does paying for it allow saving files to the External Card? I think not.
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BTW, to save to the external SD card (provided you of course are rooted so any program can write to the SD card),
Save As -> This Device -> storage (near bottom) -> extSdCard -> pick your folder.
I am inclined to believe that the 12-inch android tablets are flagged out since they're closer competition to the surface line of tablets. It is what it is. I too am disappointed that I have to pay but I'm doing so since the software does give me the compatibility that I need.
I don't have a smaller tablet so I'm not sure about this but does anyone know if the applications are identical or if on the larger tablets with paid services one gets more features?
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So then don't use it. Just because you don't think it's worth the price asked is no reason to steal it. I use it on my Note Pro, and it's pretty much replaced my need for a laptop. To me that's worth the $ as Office 2013 is still pricey. IF you don't want to pay for it, use an alternative. It doesn't give people the right to not pay developers their asking price.
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BTW, to save to the external SD card (provided you of course are rooted so any program can write to the SD card),
Save As -> This Device -> storage (near bottom) -> extSdCard -> pick your folder.
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And I won't spend so much money for the limited editing capabilities that a small screen allows. Did you compare that price with the cost of any other application in the market? and it's only an annual fee, or do you think to be able to produce large spreadsheets with a small screen? You can just do limited things and the only plus of Microsoft's application is the claimed compatibility that can be overridden switching to the odt format or saving in pdf.
So, for my needs, I'll stay on free applications and will install Microsoft when an hack will be available and will never adhere to that silly marketing politic of Microsoft.
That's the same reason why I rooted my device, as I can't understand why I must be subject to limitations for something that is claimed to be open.
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So then don't use it. Just because you don't think it's worth the price asked is no reason to steal it. I use it on my Note Pro, and it's pretty much replaced my need for a laptop. To me that's worth the $ as Office 2013 is still pricey. IF you don't want to pay for it, use an alternative. It doesn't give people the right to not pay developers their asking price.
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If they charged the same price for every other tablet on the market, we'd be fine with it.
At present only NotePro 12.2 and TabPro 12.2 users have to pay for this. Everyone else doesn't.
Giving it away for free to the largest market and only charging money to a select few doesn't make sense from a commercial point of view, no matter how I look at it.
This is discrimination, plain and simple. What's next, "only gays have to pay a subscription fee"?
Why do I get to use it for free on my TabPro 8.4, but not my NotePro that's lying next to it and is owned by the same person with the same account?
"Everyone can use this road for free, except people with red cars. Those have to pay 140 quid to use the road. Why? Just because we can, and people are dumb enough to swallow it."
If you're going to pay for something that's free for everyone else, you're just naive.
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This is the EXACT same policy they use with Windows tablets except the cutoff there is 9". You can in no way say the experience between an 8" Tab and a 12" note is the same. People forking over up to 2 grand on a Surface still need a 365 subscription. It's just the way they are moving.
I too would prefer it if Microsoft didn't charge for anything, but they have to make money. Something has to pay for the team who ported this. This isn't the same as rooting, rooting gives one control of their device. You are figuring out a way to get subscription software for free.
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Actually, yes it is.
Unless you do actual serious layout work in word(lmfao), or professional work in Excel, chances are the most sophisticated thing you'll use is Bold, Italic and Underline, combined with a list.
If I intend to do any serious layout work, I'll use Indesign, and not something as ridiculously useless as Office.
Yes, I purchased the 1200 quid Adobe CS6 master collection. No, I refuse to pay 140 quid a year for a dumb text editor.
They make their money off the fact that the subscription is for the PC version of Office. They don't need the +-500 12.2" users to make up for the costs. That's petty cash.
The real money is in the corporate licenses, for which you need one for every user on every computer for every year. And it's 10 times the price of a home edition.
There is absolutely no difference between 8", 10" and 12" for ordinary text processing if you use a bluetooth keyboard. Those are pathetic excuses to make yourself feel better about having purchased it when everyone else didn't have to.
It's like those idiots in the US who, when offered the choice between a 200 quid and 800 quid identical phone, will go for the 800 quid phone so they can feel better about the quality of the product.
I'm in marketing, these naive sentiments are how we manipulate you lot into buying our products for 400% above the original price. And you all just keep falling for it, over and over and over again. We even got people to angrily defend our manipulations when they're confronted with it. Double win.
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At least we know where you stand.
Don't think MS Office is worth the money? Steal it.
Don't think a BMW is worth the money? Steal one.
Anyone with an .edu email address can get it for $80 every four years. There is a difference between saying that you can work just fine with Hancom Office instead of Microsoft Office as opposed to saying that you prefer Microsoft Office over Hancom but would rather figure out a way to bypass Microsoft's security code so you can use it without having to pay for it.
As far as the size difference, sorry but Word on the note is much nicer to work with than Word on my Shield.
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So then don't use it. Just because you don't think it's worth the price asked is no reason to steal it. I use it on my Note Pro, and it's pretty much replaced my need for a laptop. To me that's worth the $ as Office 2013 is still pricey. IF you don't want to pay for it, use an alternative. It doesn't give people the right to not pay developers their asking price.
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BTW, to save to the external SD card (provided you of course are rooted so any program can write to the SD card),
Save As -> This Device -> storage (near bottom) -> extSdCard -> pick your folder.
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At least we know where you stand.
Don't think MS Office is worth the money? Steal it.
Don't think a BMW is worth the money? Steal one.
Anyone with an .edu email address can get it for $80 every four years. There is a difference between saying that you can work just fine with Hancom Office instead of Microsoft Office as opposed to saying that you prefer Microsoft Office over Hancom but would rather figure out a way to bypass Microsoft's security code so you can use it without having to pay for it.
As far as the size difference, sorry but Word on the note is much nicer to work with than Word on my Shield.
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Don't agree: when you do something serious you need to open several other documents and may be a browser and your mail and all this stuff needs to be just one click away, something that a small screen simply does not allow.
Didn't you buy recently a wider screen for your desktop and still using your old monitor as a secondary screen with your laptop and/or your desktop just to have more stuff under your fingertips?
Microsoft is simply trying to force people to buy her tablets and not to make money with Android.
I repeat, the only plus I see in Microsoft is it's claimed compatibility with the desktop edition, something that most of the people have, but that is not fundamental since she had to add compatibility with the .odt format in the most recent versions of its desktop suite.
And, please, don't speak about stealing, do you guess that such policies are fair? Pay that ridiculous yearly price and be happy, but don't blame people that are thinking differently. That's a too old dispute that never got a winner.
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Not only that, a 12-inch tablet user costs Microsoft much more than a 8" tablet user. Licensing models that charge users of high-end hardware more, are a long-standing industry practice. In part, because users of high-end hardware drive support costs much more. The user of an 8-inch tablet is more likely to use the software just for basic text editing. Whereas the user of 12-inch tablet is more likely use more advanced features of the software for professional / commercial uses, thereby driving more support costs.
Some of the alternatives like WPS and Hancom are great, but not good enough for me for professional use. The Microsoft suite definitely does the best job of maintaining the same formatting between PC and tablet. That saves me time and gives me the option of sending a document to a client without the intermediate step of editing on a desktop first so I can see how it really looks.
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I am offering a $250 bounty to anyone who can make an android app that can create and print receipts to my epson tm-60 bluetooth thermal receipt printer
I am using "mobile invoice" on WM6.5 right now but would like to move over to android
I will go into more detail if anyone is interested
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I am offering a $250 bounty to anyone who can make an android app that can create and print receipts to my epson tm-60 bluetooth thermal receipt printer
I am using "mobile invoice" on WM6.5 right now but would like to move over to android
I will go into more detail if anyone is interested
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$250?? what a joke.
just a tip, most coders with the required proficiency would want a lot more than that.
the actual idea is interesting though.
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$250?? what a joke.
just a tip, most coders with the required proficiency would want a lot more than that.
the actual idea is interesting though.
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damn I was hoping it was enough. You could sell such an app in the market for a decent amount of money. It would probably be profitable enough, As long as I get a copy I'd still pay the bounty.
Oh well, I was just hoping someone would want to do it cause its the only thing keeping me on WM, and WM7 is not compatible with the software I use now so I'm stuck with old phones from this point on. I just want to go android
Is there a reason why you can not use square? Or just search "receipts" on appbrain: http://www.appbrain.com/search?q=receipts
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Is there a reason why you can not use square? Or just search "receipts" on appbrain: http://www.appbrain.com/search?q=receipts
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well I don't know what square is but I have checked for an app that already does what I need and found nothing. I run a mobile business so I am at peoples house and need to print them a receipt for services rendered. there are plenty of apps to email or text people a receipt but nothing to print one. I bought a $500 bluetooth receipt printer a few years ago and it works perfect, but windows mobile is not going anywhere good and android is the future so I am trying to prepare.
ok so I checked out square and it is awesome looking but I need to be able to print an actual receipt. like the little slip you get when you buy anything at a store.
This is just a wee rant, but i hope it makes folk think a wee bit
Right now, regardless of your Smartphone faction allegiances, we have a number of great devices, including iPhones, Androids, Windows Phones, and even good old Windows Mobiles, All of them great in their own wee ways
But something curious is happening which may have escaped us in the never ending quest to make us upgrade or buy new devices and that’s the "App store"
Personally, i think this "App" name is kind of annoying but perhaps that’s just my age coming in to it again, it’s also beside the point. Forget the differences in names, we all know what it is and by App store I’m talking about all of them
Anyhow, these app stores have a lot to answer for, some of us spend a fortune on them, all those "cheap" programs you’ve downloaded over the past years, many of which you may have even forgot you own maybe nibbled away at your pay cheque. So what happens when one day the unthinkable happens, your fan boy world is rocked too its feet when the satanic Enemy you have despised all these years actually takes your fancy, an after a bit of thinking, sleeping with the devil for that thing doesn’t sound too bad a deal at all, after all, this device IS better, its OS is better, it suites your needs more an damn it, it just looks cool too.
But here lies your problem, you have been chained to an app store for a while now, you’ve picked up many apps an maybe even some STDs, its cost you lots of money and you can bet your life that you cant transfer your apps to this "other" OS, So you have a choice, do you stay with the older phone knowing for well that the phone of your dreams is but a stone throw away or do you say, to hell with my old apps, give it to me now!!
Of course everyone is different, but to ignore the fact that nothing lasts forever and assume that your OS will always be the best would be naive, remember, these companies all have a vested interest in keeping you with them, and getting you on the app store of THEIR choice is one very good way of doing it,
Of Course none of this is new, Windows Mobile was similar but we didnt have choice then, now we do, Hopefully it might make you think twice before shelling out for junk you don’t need, your device might be the best now, but it won’t always be.
Ummm, Here's the best part about me...
I've only bought apps when that 10 cents sale was going on, and only spent $1.80 USD.
Being cheap rules...
Is this post about switching OS's or phones? I'm confused.
True, but it dont think thats always the case, my 6 year old kid managed to blow about a tenner within only a few min, buying cheap helps but if we take google as an example, they dont sell android, they make shed loads of money on advertising and you buying stuff, its in all of their interests to keep you buying programs on their app stores, the more you buy the less likely you are to leave them
They are all EVIL i tell you
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Is this post about switching OS's or phones? I'm confused.
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OSs, you wouldnt have a problem with your apps if you stayed on the same OS, at least one would hope not, point taken tho, couple of wee changes added
i have a literal butt-load of apps for my iphone i have no hope of ever being able to use again. i had my phone stolen during that dark time when the iphone was not available to buy on pay as you go (dark dark times...), and so had to switch to a different smartphone os. at the time it was a htc desire, and i just never looked back, really. partly because i look at iphones and just think "hmm... nothing much's changed. same old same old..."
in an ideal world i'd be able to run my android apps on my windows phone, and have the best of both worlds - but that isn't going to happen any time soon. the best compromise i can see is "buy for one platform, buy for all" - why should i have to re-buy my apps for a different platform? why can't i buy one and be able to download the same version available for different platforms? steam does it with some pc games - including a mac version for free with your purchase. hell, there are even ways to run one os on another kind of machine, so you're not truly "tied" into something like with phones.
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OSs, you wouldnt have a problem with your apps if you stayed on the same OS, at least one would hope not, point taken tho, couple of wee changes added
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Haha, thanks, that was actually my original comment. Then I thought about it and reread the post and assumed you were talking about the OS and not just the phone...hence the reason for the edit!
Welcome to the wonderful world of vendor lock-in.
I still don't understand why so many of you are so desperate for these website bookmarks with GUIs aka most apps out there. Or, there are 20 task managers, they still do they SAME exact thing as the stock one; there's nothing wrong with the stock one; so, why the heck would you even want an alternate one?
What happened to the days where, if you just had mobile internet access, that in itself was an extreme convenience and everyone had the patience to access every other site via browser?
What about battery life? Do you REALLY need to have 20 email and social network apps and widgets update every 10 minutes? Not really. If its something very important, I'm sure the party who needs to reach you can text or call you.
All of that said, I personally prefer the "older" solutions to this smartphone problem such as Nokia and their Symbian os. Bare, simple, but never fails, doesn't eat battery like 5 starving children, and you don't really have to worry about keeping up with these apps or too many updates. Oh, did I mention FREE gps with FREE downloadable maps, that doesn't even require data connection to be used?
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Ive always been wary of this as well. Its part of the reason I get the phones I do, At least there should be enough concepts, designs and hardware variations using my O/S to keep me happy. Also even though I have many programmes now I try not to get too trigger happy in the market.
Honestly, I pirated like crazy on android, it was too easy. The upgrade to wp7 was painless.
That's why I always think twice about buying an app. So far I've spent only about $15 on android, another $15 on iOS, and $9 on webos. I have friends who have spent hundreds on iOS. It's impossible to honestly recommend anything other than the iPhone to them.
I did pirate two apps though. The MLB app which they tried to sell for $15 on top of the subscription fees. If I'm already paying them $20 a month, it's unreasonable to tack on an extra $15. The other is the logmein app which was originally $30, but they have dropped the price to free. I would have never bought either one if I had to pay full price so it's not like they lost a sale.
I have never spent a dime on an app for any platform. I used an iphone for about 2 years and switched to Android about a year ago. I honestly don't worry about it. I can find free apps that do everything I want to do. I guess that might come from the fact that i am a Linux user as well. I have been trained to find something that works.
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I did pirate two apps though. The MLB app which they tried to sell for $15 on top of the subscription fees. If I'm already paying them $20 a month, it's unreasonable to tack on an extra $15. The other is the logmein app which was originally $30, but they have dropped the price to free. I would have never bought either one if I had to pay full price so it's not like they lost a sale.
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That's the thing about pirating that I don't think content owners understand. The movie and recording industry claim multi billion dolor losses due to piracy but in reality the people that pirated it had absolutely no intention of buying it in the first place and would not have whether the pirated copy existed or not. So basically they lost no money but have that may more people talking about how good it is. To me that sounds like marketing, not piracy.
"Piracy" isn't in the topic title people...
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in an ideal world i'd be able to run my android apps on my windows phone, and have the best of both worlds - but that isn't going to happen any time soon. the best compromise i can see is "buy for one platform, buy for all" - why should i have to re-buy my apps for a different platform? why can't i buy one and be able to download the same version available for different platforms? steam does it with some pc games - including a mac version for free with your purchase. hell, there are even ways to run one os on another kind of machine, so you're not truly "tied" into something like with phones.
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It is unfortunate, but the reality is this will never change. If you tied the big 4 together effectively their revenue would be a lot less, in the case of apple and google anyway, and to be fair, programs from one market wont work on another markets devices, there has to be some work involved todo that so who gets paid for it.
Steam isnt a good compare, as its only 1 vendor, for it to be equal to phones you would need a situation similar to steam selling a game that origin also sells, why should you buy it twice?
In an ideal world you would have a new company that acted like a app store, hosting multiple platforms, of course the big 4 wouldnt like that as it wouldnt tie you to them and they would lose revenue
as far as i can tell, unless you dont mind wasting money, the best solution is to simply not buy anything.
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What happened to the days where, if you just had mobile internet access, that in itself was an extreme convenience and everyone had the patience to access every other site via browser?
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Completely agree, im not going to get in to a which OS is best debate but thats the sole reason for the OS i use, without downloading any extra it does everything i want out of the box, its a phone with extras, ie, a smartphone
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it may not be on topic but it is an intersting side effect of the problem
If we role back the clock a few years well before the smartphone era, we have Windows Mobile, i bought a lot of programs for that OS an i still love it
But when i did eventually change i didnt mind buying new programs, after all, the developers had long since stopped developing, newer versions where only available on newer OSs, if they were available at all!
But here lies one part of the problem, now your not tied to older versions of your programs if you stay on any given market, all markets have the same program all be it coded differently so can you really steal something that you have already bought, or is it more likle that you are not buy buying anything,
what exactly are you "buying" when you hit the app stores? The program? the right to "use" a program, the right to use a program on one OS?
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I have over $200 worth of iOS apps that I have no device for. I'm actually considering getting an iPod Touch for a PMP and because I have so many iOS Apps. I'm pretty much waiting for the iPod Touch that has the iPhone 4/4s design but that's another story.
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I have over $200 worth of iOS apps that I have no device for. I'm actually considering getting an iPod Touch for a PMP and because I have so many iOS Apps. I'm pretty much waiting for the iPod Touch that has the iPhone 4/4s design but that's another story.
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81 bucks in apps on windows phone 7. It doesn't matter, the second someone releases an OS that can compare, I'll jump ship.
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That's the thing about pirating that I don't think content owners understand. The movie and recording industry claim multi billion dolor losses due to piracy but in reality the people that pirated it had absolutely no intention of buying it in the first place and would not have whether the pirated copy existed or not. So basically they lost no money but have that may more people talking about how good it is. To me that sounds like marketing, not piracy.
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indeed their stuck in the past, the whole system is broken, if people were being rational, they would allow a universal app store, prices would increase and fees would be paid to the various OS makes for using their systems, the customer would end up paying a small amount more per app to fund the additional third party but everything else remains the same only you would have access to all markets that the software makers designed for
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81 bucks in apps on windows phone 7. It doesn't matter, the second someone releases an OS that can compare, I'll jump ship.
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then its nice to have disposible income but when that day comes an it might be awhile away, if youve spent a lot more i wonder if you'll think the same then, if it were me, and someone told me id have to take a £100 note out of my pocket and burn it to move devices, at the very least, id be a bit cheesed off!
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indeed their stuck in the past, the whole system is broken, if people were being rational, they would allow a universal app store, prices would increase and fees would be paid to the various OS makes for using their systems, the customer would end up paying a small amount more per app to fund the additional third party but everything else remains the same only you would have access to all markets that the software makers designed for
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Which completely eliminates brand loyalty, I hear often that people only stick to android/iOS when they try my lumia because they'd have to buy all their apps again.
Do any one of you guys have friends that don't pay for apps (ie. try to get them illegally)
I have a friend that recently converted from an iPhone to Android platform (Galaxy S3), he finally saw the light and converted! However, he constantly tries to get cracked apps on his phone. Because when he had the iphone, he jailbroke it and just downloaded apps for his iPhone for free.
I tried telling him that sites that have cracked apps are probably virus laden and that he should support developers efforts, but he's the type that doesn't care about developers just as long as he can save money.
There's probably nothing I can do to change his mind. I just wanted to rant. Also, I wanted to find out if anyone else out there has similar experiences with their friends.
I have bought a few apps but I don't mind ad supported stuff so I do have quite a few "free" apps as well. I don't use adfree or ad-aware or any of those types. I definitely am against people stealing apps as that will hurt all of us in the long run.
So your friend can buy a new top range phone but cant pay $1-2 for apps?
People like that really annoy me, the android community is much more about supporting its developers (well at least in XDA anyway) and the best way to do this is either using ad supported apps (and giving the odd click) or buying the paid version!
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Reported. 7 posts all with a few if not only 1 word.
>.< STOP SPAMMING THE BOARDS >.<
Karma will get these people as most cracked apps come with keyloggers built into them. When he realizes it then it will be to late.
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That's sad... My main beef with PC software is that companies like Microsoft and Adobe seem to think their software is worth the price of a cheap used car! I would never "crack" anything that was actually reasonably priced! Most phone apps are so cheap, that only someone with absolutely no morals at all would try and "steal" them. Hell, even if you can't pay a buck, almost all apps have free, ad supported versions!
Yep I got friends who do it, and I chew them out on a regular basis, just like I do about pirating movies, music, or PC software. People don't realize it seems that without us buying this stuff people won't make more of it. They say "Well there are other people a lot better off then I am who can pay for it." I guess I don't get the difference between downloading a movie or app without paying for it and something more drastic like stealing a car, I mean yes the value is quite a bit different, but you are still taking something that doesn't belong to you.
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putergod said:
That's sad... My main beef with PC software is that companies like Microsoft and Adobe seem to think their software is worth the price of a cheap used car! I would never "crack" anything that was actually reasonably priced! Most phone apps are so cheap, that only someone with absolutely no morals at all would try and "steal" them. Hell, even if you can't pay a buck, almost all apps have free, ad supported versions!
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But how is that any different? You are still taking something that BELONGS to someone else. It's stealing no matter the price. I guess maybe I'm old fashioned, but I worked my butt off for every dollar, app, piece of software, movie, MP3, or any other item I own. In my mind if I can't afford to pay for it then I don't need it too badly.
You should always pay for apps.
If it's some overpriced junk, you shouldn't download it in the first place.
Thats what made me fall in love with the android cmunty wen I had a I phone I found all I phone cmunty are driven to piracy I don't get it if you can buy such a expensive device you don't need to steal
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I dont pay for apps all the time because i know i wont use them more then once.
Apps that i use on an regular base i just buy!
**** U CAPTCHA!!!!!!!!
I've submitted two reviews on the Verizon website giving my honest opinion of the device. They have denied posting both times due to what they say violates the guidelines. Admittedly, my first review was rather harsh. After the first denial, I went back and read the guidelines and posted a very toned down version. I didn't post anything that was specifically prohibited in the second review. They did not see it that way and denied posting the second version for the same given reason. Apparently, Verizon will not tolerate ANY criticism of their company by reviewers.
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KarlStyles said:
What is the text of your review?
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I didn't keep my exact text, but this is pretty close to what I said in my edited review:
Samsung did a great job designing this device. Why isn't this device sold with an unlockable bootloader as the manufacturer intended? Power users should be able to use their own property as they see fit as long as it doesn't break any laws.
I'm disappointed that Verizon chose not to offer the 32gb version of this phone. Because of the way that Android manages memory, many apps can't be moved to the Micro SD card. For users that need a lot of apps, memory will quickly become an issue.
I'm not happy that the phone is sold loaded down with software that is designed to promote sales and marketing of other products and I'm not allowed to disable or uninstall it.
They own the site so they're entitled to filter content as they see fit.
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I didn't keep my exact text, but this is pretty close to what I said in my edited review:
Samsung did a great job designing this device. Why isn't this device sold with an unlockable bootloader as the manufacturer intended? Power users should be able to use their own property as they see fit as long as it doesn't break any laws.
I'm disappointed that Verizon chose not to offer the 32gb version of this phone. Because of the way that Android manages memory, many apps can't be moved to the Micro SD card. For users that need a lot of apps, memory will quickly become an issue.
I'm not happy that the phone is sold loaded down with software that is designed to promote sales and marketing of other products and I'm not allowed to disable or uninstall it.
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I don't disagree with anything you said, but it does fall out of their guidelines. It is more a complaint against Verizon than a review of the phone. Maybe the way to go about it is to rephrase it more like a product review. For example, instead of generalizing on limited apps to card, phrase it as your experience. Something like "unlike previous phones, the new android system didn't let me move as many apps to the external card. As a result, I find the 16 gb storage is filling up quickly." Then move to disappointed that Verizon doesn't have 32gb version.
Similarly you can mention that the device runs ok, and Samsung added a feature to turn off system apps in order to conserve battery and reduce clutter. But then move to however there is a lot of bloat that can't be turned off.
I'm not sure what to do with the rooting portion, maybe keep it as a final note rather than making that your main point. I would also add a starting statement of "I've used the phone for x days and here's my impression so far". That may be enough to qualify it to their standard.
Btw, you didn't mention the fact that Verizon disabled two of the main advertised features of the phone - download boost and finger print payments.
You must be maintain guidelines.. All time..
I'm considering going back to T-Mobile over the S5 root issues. It gets worse and worse each year with them. I've been a loyal customer for 10 years and they took my unlimited away, bloated my phone with apps, raised rates and now they pretty much don't allow the truth to be told on their site. I've been due for an upgrade for a LONG time and I think I might take up t-mo's buy out your contract thing just to stick it to them.
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I'm considering going back to T-Mobile over the S5 root issues. It gets worse and worse each year with them. I've been a loyal customer for 10 years and they took my unlimited away, bloated my phone with apps, raised rates and now they pretty much don't allow the truth to be told on their site. I've been due for an upgrade for a LONG time and I think I might take up t-mo's buy out your contract thing just to stick it to them.
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I'm debating going with you to be honest.
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I'm debating going with you to be honest.
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Me too. Another Cincinnatian here as well. Shame T-Mo coverage isn't that great here. Neither is Sprint...only good ones are VZW and ATT and C-Bell (now VZW! I think I am gonna puke).
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Me too. Another Cincinnatian here as well. Shame T-Mo coverage isn't that great here. Neither is Sprint...only good ones are VZW and ATT and C-Bell (now VZW! I think I am gonna puke).
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Look what I just read.
http://www.smh.com.au/technology/te...s-browsing-to-advertisers-20140426-zqzzq.html
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Look what I just read.
http://www.smh.com.au/technology/te...s-browsing-to-advertisers-20140426-zqzzq.html
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Do you know that every other provider DOESN'T do this? Doubt it's just VZW.
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Do you know that every other provider DOESN'T do this? Doubt it's just VZW.
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Verizon has their phones locked down completely and T-mobile doesn't. There for I can rid the problem with T-mobile pretty easily, not so much with Verizon. That's my point what's yours?
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Verizon has their phones locked down completely and T-mobile doesn't. There for I can rid the problem with T-mobile pretty easily, not so much with Verizon. That's my point what's yours?
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LOL, yes you may be able to get rid of carrier IQ type programs running on your phone. Not sure what this has to do with TMOBILE seeing what websites you are visiting using there network and selling this to advertising companies etc....
Ex 2: Just because I run Chrome in incognito mode doesn't mean Time Warner doesn't monitor my traffic.
Back to you, whats your point, you said it like "OMG LOOK AT WHAT I JUST READ" "BAD VERIZON"
LOLOLOLOLOL
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LOL, yes you may be able to get rid of carrier IQ type programs running on your phone. Not sure what this has to do with TMOBILE seeing what websites you are visiting using there network and selling this to advertising companies etc....
Ex 2: Just because I run Chrome in incognito mode doesn't mean Time Warner doesn't monitor my traffic.
Back to you, whats your point, you said it like "OMG LOOK AT WHAT I JUST READ" "BAD VERIZON"
LOLOLOLOLOL
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Almost all mega-corps data mine like crazy. Fine. Discover that I like rooting on XDA, have a facebook account, play video games...I don't care.
What I do care about is being able to do what I want, when I want with my device. VZW doesn't seem to care about the customer at all anymore.
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Almost all mega-corps data mine like crazy. Fine. Discover that I like rooting on XDA, have a facebook account, play video games...I don't care.
What I do care about is being able to do what I want, when I want with my device. VZW doesn't seem to care about the customer at all anymore.
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Exactly thank you for summing it up for me.
VZW, and ATT, are required by law to allow you to network unlock the device, not boot loader unlock. The carrier covers warranty claims on the device, therefore it is in their interest to minimize the amount of damage "power users" can do to their devices
in my opinion, this trend of carriers locking bootloaders is the direct result of unscrupulous "modders" sending in for warranty or insurance claims after bricking their devices.
finally, we are by far the minority of smartphone users. a very very small percentage of Samsung, or the carriers, customer base and we DO have other options. the Nexus line, HTC with their unlockable bootloaders, GPE, and Dev edition devices.
/rant sorry
Russ77 said:
great input, thanks.
call it whatever you want, companies are in business to make money. if they're giving up profit margin due to fraudulent warranty claims on modified devices, they're well within their rights to sell locked devices.
was anyone here really surprised that the s5 is locked? really?
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How much profit has been lost on this? $10k? $1 million? If you took the entire user base of XDA or any other tech forum and had all of them return broken phones, then you'd attention of a company like VZW. Otherwise, they don't care. They just want to pick a fight they can win easily and make the "modding" community look bad because 1% have not followed directions or are just plain dumb.
A) if you bring in a rooted device that is bricked, they won't even offer you a claim
B) How many people are dumb enough to spend hours on XDA and other sites following instructions and asking questions, only to just give up and go back to VZW/ATT with their bricked phone and say "Idk how this happened?"
Please. These companies aren't in business to make money, they are in business to advance an agenda for shareholders while raking in the money from consumers who have a rapidly disappearing range of options to consider. Cincinnati is a great recent example. Our local provider just got bought out by VZW and at the same time, laid off a decent chunk of staff to make way for the corporate shift. All the while, these same companies lie to the customer with their marketing fluff.
I am not an advocate for one carrier over another, as I have no vested interest in any one of them over another. However, I will say that T-Mo's "in your face" approach to their new marketing is quite polarizing to the rest of the status quo in the industry of "corporate bs doublespeak" where one day you have a contract for $99/mo unlimited everything, and the next, you are paying $130 with a data cap. (Which happens to be what happened to me).
If the PC industry was this way, we wouldn't have half the progress we have seen in the last 20 years. Instead, the PC industry (mac included) embraced unique user created content (hackers included) and actually employed some of those who were great at it to work for them. But, NO, not in the telecom industry. It is the most ridiculous double standard.
So yes, these companies can go shove it. I'm done here. I won't be getting an S5 or and HTC M8 at this point. I have analyzed the phones and neither one is getting the "ok" from me anyhow. I just think it is very interesting how much a company is willing to combat what the "android community," if you can even call it one, has become.
A bunch of polarizing, angry tech loving people who never agree on anything, myself included. Get me out of here. I'm done.
Make it easy on yourself. Don't buy Samsung-Verizon ****. I got an m8. Sharp looking phone, rooted and unlocked in days. Even if you rock stock, there is far less bloat. Sense isn't the steaming pile that touchwiz is. And they sell 32 GB for the same price as this unholy garbage.
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Me too. Another Cincinnatian here as well. Shame T-Mo coverage isn't that great here. Neither is Sprint...only good ones are VZW and ATT and C-Bell (now VZW! I think I am gonna puke).
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I'm from NKY and just switched from sprint to T-Mobile. I don't get LTE in NKY, and I haven't been to Cinci yet since the switch. That being said, my coverage has been pretty good and so long as I'm in anything resembling civilization I pretty much always get 4g (5-10Mbps). It's not all bad, and hopefully LTE is on the way, Unlimited data is nice, and I have JUMP, so being able to upgrade yearly is awesome as well.
1timer said:
I'm considering going back to T-Mobile over the S5 root issues. It gets worse and worse each year with them. I've been a loyal customer for 10 years and they took my unlimited away, bloated my phone with apps, raised rates and now they pretty much don't allow the truth to be told on their site. I've been due for an upgrade for a LONG time and I think I might take up t-mo's buy out your contract thing just to stick it to them.
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They didn't take away unlimited, they basically forced you to opt out of that option in order to pay for contract price phones when you upgrade. I've never had the unlimited, so it's nothing I really bothered to complain about. I did however, end up doubling my coverage for the same price one day 2 years ago when I was on the My Verizon app, and noticed they were offering it. Of course they didn't bother to advertise it anywhere else though.
I will never lose Verizon. I know it sucks how freaking crazy they are locking everything, but there are Devs out there who always find a way. I can not simply give up the best coverage just for root. As much as it might suck one day, not being able to actually use your phone due to **** service would be even worse.
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k.electron said:
Make it easy on yourself. Don't buy Samsung-Verizon ****. I got an m8. Sharp looking phone, rooted and unlocked in days. Even if you rock stock, there is far less bloat. Sense isn't the steaming pile that touchwiz is. And they sell 32 GB for the same price as this unholy garbage.
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Samsung phones are superior to HTC. Not just my opinion, but basically backed up by facts. S5 has the best display on the market, hands down. Faster processor, better camera, better layout, better extras. The only thing the HTC has over the S5 is exterior speakers, but honestly, who even uses them that much? You're either listening to music on your headphones, or plugging the phone into better speakers anyways
there is an app that allow smartphone to work like a real barcode scanner used in a shop? it may be not very comfortable,but i d like avoid spend my money to buy some real barcode scanner.
it d be useful to some 'occasional cashier'.
Have you tried searching in the Playstore ?
There are a lot of apps that can scan barcodes in the PlayStore, just follow the link : Barcode Scanner @ PlayStore
You don't want to spend money on buying a scanner, OK. How do you intend to interface the phone to the computer/register to pass the barcode scanned to the application on the PC or register?
Q] barcode scanner like in a shop?
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You don't want to spend money on buying a scanner, OK. How do you intend to interface the phone to the computer/register to pass the barcode scanned to the application on the PC or register?
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i wont use computer/register.
i put a items'price database on the phone.the app use camera to get barcodes,search price in database,and calcolate amount.that s all.
well,it d be the best if the app records all the transactions in a sale database.And also do autodecrement in items price database so that i would know which item go sold out.
@verszipo,i ve tried many app in playstore,the most of them are for storekeepers and consumers
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You don't want to spend money on buying a scanner, OK. How do you intend to interface the phone to the computer/register to pass the barcode scanned to the application on the PC or register?
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This can actually be done using Bluetooth. There are a lot of POS systems for Android and even iOS that interface with PC counterparts.
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FASTWEBAR said:
i wont use computer/register.
i put a items'price database on the phone.the app use camera to get barcodes,search price in database,and calcolate amount.that s all.
well,it d be the best if the app records all the transactions in a sale database.And also do autodecrement in items price database so that i would know which item go sold out.
@verszipo,i ve tried many app in playstore,the most of them are for storekeepers and consumers
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What you are describing is exactly what you are saying you tried already. You basically want an Android based POS system, this is kinda silly, unless you are using it as an outdoor vendor or to take orders at a table in a restaurant. Keeping track of your sales and your stock is possible, but you really do not want to do this on a phone. Using a large screen tablet, you might achieve what you intend to do.
I develop POS for a living, we have reseached the validity of building a device based POS and I can tell you that the use of Android/iOS devices in a POS environtment is only as a value added addon. Using it to take orders, collecting sales information from your staff who work outside of the store (ie: stand at events) and collecting data at the back door (stock transactions) is where this idea is best implemented. Only if you have a small store, with maximum 2 cashiers can you achieve this, and only if you use a Tablet where there is enough space on the screen to read your transaction easily.
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This can actually be done using Bluetooth. There are a lot of POS systems for Android and even iOS that interface with PC counterparts.
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What you are describing is exactly what you are saying you tried already. You basically want an Android based POS system, this is kinda silly, unless you are using it as an outdoor vendor or to take orders at a table in a restaurant. Keeping track of your sales and your stock is possible, but you really do not want to do this on a phone. Using a large screen tablet, you might achieve what you intend to do.
I develop POS for a living, we have reseached the validity of building a device based POS and I can tell you that the use of Android/iOS devices in a POS environtment is only as a value added addon. Using it to take orders, collecting sales information from your staff who work outside of the store (ie: stand at events) and collecting data at the back door (stock transactions) is where this idea is best implemented. Only if you have a small store, with maximum 2 cashiers can you achieve this, and only if you use a Tablet where there is enough space on the screen to read your transaction easily.
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yeah,it s just like say
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there are not any app that do those kind of stuff?