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Anyone else absolutely HATE the Google setup? I can simply go to the site and pull up the same directions. If I make a wrong turn however, I am done for. Need to pull over, recalculate where I am etc...
Also it is a major PITA that if I go out of the service area, I am flying blind...
So what have people heard as a time frame for a Garmin/TomTom style setup? I hear people are "working on it" but other than AndNav which isn't real time, nothing is out yet. This is fairly important as I run a DJ company and am always going into the unknown....
Just sitting here debating on picking up an independent GPS or waiting it out (if that meant a few weeks)
I am also in the same boat, but to repeat what others have yelled at me- "if you dont like it, build it yourself" Keep in mind I dont agree, but the fanboys will surely flame posts like this that complain about their precious Android's lack of common sense
I don't mind paying for it... just want it!
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Android's lack of common sense
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It's licensing, not "common sense". Most of the data in Google maps is licensed from companies that have also sold it to companies like TomTom and Garmin. Of course they're not idiots and put the equivalent of a non-competitive clause in the license contract.
AndNav is actually coming along quite nicely. The version on the market is still based on Google maps, so no real-time. AndNav2 is only on his site right now, http://www.andnav.org/. There's a fundraiser going on to launch a US server. So if you're interested in having it, donate and help the cause.
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Anyone else absolutely HATE the Google setup? I can simply go to the site and pull up the same directions. If I make a wrong turn however, I am done for. Need to pull over, recalculate where I am etc...
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No one's holding you at gunpoint forcing you to use it. If you don't like it stop using it.
I spent $170 on a Navigon GPS unit so I have turn-by-turn directions but it has almost no POIs in its database. Now, I have the G1 with all the POIs in Google and no turn-by-turn directions and the Navigon with no POIs but with turn-by-turn. It's ridiculous and I'm out what I would have spent in software for the one device I REALLY want to carry with me - my smartphone.
So I have to do all the legwork looking up a POI on my phone, get the directions, set up the GPS, manually punch in the address and then get going to it. I should be able to just buy nav software for the phone that lets me look up contacts/POIs on my phone, click "Navigate To" and have the phone tell me when to turn and what the traffic looks like on the way there.
There is ONE guy who is creating a turn-by-turn nav system for the G1. Go to Andnav.org and check it out. He currently has the V1 program in the market but it uses Google maps and is suffering from the legal setbacks of using that. His V2 program is going to use OpenStreetMap but the street data sucks compared to TeleNav and Navteq.
I gave him a $25 donation and hopefully more people will do so to get the US server up and running.
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No one's holding you at gunpoint forcing you to use it. If you don't like it stop using it.
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Interesting response
How about running in front of a train
I wouldn't mind donating to AndNav. However, he plans on selling the software last I heard. This means donating and then buying the software? Sorry, but seems a little redundant.
The morons saying "build it yourself" should just shut their mouths. I have a job, and it's not in programming. That's why I pay others for that work as others pay me to write music.
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Interesting response
How about running in front of a train
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momentarylapseofreason: Doctor, my leg hurts when I do this!
doctor: Then stop doing that.
momentarylapseofreason: Interesting response. How about running in front of a train.
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momentarylapseofreason: Doctor, my leg hurts when I do this!
doctor: Then stop doing that.
momentarylapseofreason: Interesting response. How about running in front of a train.
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Perhaps your mother might give you that response. A doctor would not. If I tell a doctor my knee hurts while walking on it, will he tell me to stop? He will diagnose and treat it. Your argument is horrible.
Not saying that the built in software "hurts" me, rather that I need something better.
So now, go play in another thread that pertains to you.
told ya so
The people on here just cant get it in their head that we BOUGHT the phone (who cares if the software was "free", we still BOUGHT it as a package) and some stuff DONT work. Google is not doing what they can to help, instead they are releasing software like "scoreboard" and updates that are planned seem to consist of multi-language support. NOT stuff that will help us with our problems.
Gotta run and grab my fireproof suit.....
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The people on here just cant get it in their head that we BOUGHT the phone (who cares if the software was "free", we still BOUGHT it as a package) and some stuff DONT work.
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Doesn't work based on what definition? If you say "Maps on Android doesn't work because it doesn't do my taxes" or more realistically "Maps on Android doesn't work because it can't provide realtime directions", what are you basing that judgement on? I feel like this argument is getting rehashed over and over again and it's kind of getting depressing that folks still haven't got it into their heads.
YOU RECEIVED THE PRODUCT THAT WAS ADVERTISED. If the box or any of T-Mo's advertising said "It can do realtime navigation out of the box" then yes you are qualified to say "it doesn't work". If you just assumed that it could do X and Y out of the box or you feel like it should but it doesn't, that doesn't mean the product "doesn't work", it means you should have bought a different product.
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Doesn't work based on what definition? If you say "Maps on Android doesn't work because it doesn't do my taxes" or more realistically "Maps on Android doesn't work because it can't provide realtime directions", what are you basing that judgement on? I feel like this argument is getting rehashed over and over again and it's kind of getting depressing that folks still haven't got it into their heads.
YOU RECEIVED THE PRODUCT THAT WAS ADVERTISED. If the box or any of T-Mo's advertising said "It can do realtime navigation out of the box" then yes you are qualified to say "it doesn't work". If you just assumed that it could do X and Y out of the box or you feel like it should but it doesn't, that doesn't mean the product "doesn't work", it means you should have bought a different product.
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My Trans Am wasn't a 9 second car out of the box.... I don't care if Pontiac came out with the parts or someone else. It's been built by me and others to do so over time.
All I am saying it that I bought the Trans Am and the G1 knowing what they have. Now I just want to buy upgrades.
Now why do you insist on being the kettle and complaining about complaints moron? You offer NOTHING to this thread.
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Now I just want to buy upgrades.
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"I just want to buy upgrades" would be "Hey does anyone have any word on a realtime turn-by-turn navigation app?" not "Anyone else absolutely HATE the Google setup? [...] Also it is a major PITA that if I go out of the service area, I am flying blind..."
You offer NOTHING to this thread.
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Kinda like how this thread offers nothing to the forum? Read your original post. I'll summarize it if you are too lazy: "Waaah Maps doesn't do exactly what I want it to do. I heard people are already hard at work to create a solution but I don't care. Waaah! P.S. I know I should probably delete this post and buy a Garmin but I think i'll post it instead." {paraphrased}
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HI,
Has anyone been able to get there hands on a rebadged XDA Flint?
I have been calling O2 everyday for over a week, no one on there sales / upgrades team has any idea this device even exists. They have no information about it, when it will be available, how much it will cost. Nothing.
There website says it is available and on myxda site its the first device you see.
The shop section will allow you to add to basket but 404`s when trying to pay / enter details.
Has anyone got any information from them or know when I can get my hands on this!?
Thanks,
Embassy
O2 the great pain. The saga conntinues.
This device is only available online and to NEW business customers only.
I have now spent over 3 1/2 hours in total trying to do one of two things.
Either upgrade my contract to a Business package or close it and re open a new acccount under a business tarrif.
This seems just a little to complicated for O2. I have been passed from department to department.
They all say they cant do what I request and pass me on to another team, I work in a call center enviroment myself and it is becoming painfully ovious that these agents simply do not want to handle my call, most likely as they are scored on there call durations.
I will update this IF and when I finally manage to get this device.
O2 better get there finger out, there getting one more try and im taking the 5 phones on my contract to orange and will get the HD instead.
I warn you, if you want this device on O2 be prepared for a up hill strugle with there phone system and there staff.
Anyone know of another provider offering the X7510?
O2 are unusual in that the Online, Offline, Personal and Business departments operate as separate entities, so transferring between them is difficult or impossible.
Also, it is common for new devices to be unavailable for upgrades for some time after they are available to new customers.
Interestingly, the price of the Flint has risen from a fixed £179 on all tariffs in early December to a sliding scale starting at £279 now, and all contracts are 24 months.
There is no doubt the Flint is a good device- I was one of the pre-release testers. However it is not a major step forward over the X7500/Ameo, and really suffers for the lack of hardware buttons, and also an older implementation of WM6.1 than more mainstream devices.
T-Mobile offers the x7510 (branded as the Ameo)
x7510 = t-mobile ameo 16gb
Buy an O2 XDA Flint
Hi,
I had the same problem when I tried to get a Flint for myself.
I got through to a [Mod Edit: e-mail address removed for respect to personal privacy] who actioned it for me under a personal account - (from Customer Relations)
Just email him & he'll hopefully sort 1 out for you mate.
Hope this helps...
embassy said:
HI,
Has anyone been able to get there hands on a rebadged XDA Flint?
I have been calling O2 everyday for over a week, no one on there sales / upgrades team has any idea this device even exists. They have no information about it, when it will be available, how much it will cost. Nothing.
There website says it is available and on myxda site its the first device you see.
The shop section will allow you to add to basket but 404`s when trying to pay / enter details.
Has anyone got any information from them or know when I can get my hands on this!?
Thanks,
Embassy
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Explodingfist said:
Hi,
I had the same problem when I tried to get a Flint for myself.
I got through to a [Mod Edit: e-mail address removed for respect to personal privacy] who actioned it for me under a personal account - (from Customer Relations)
Just email him & he'll hopefully sort 1 out for you mate.
Hope this helps...
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"So, Mr Robinson, what did you get for Christmas?
"Well, a customer I went out of way to help went and posted my e-mail address on XDA-Developers.com, and for Christmas I got a deluge of SPAM. Well, as you know, SPAM is not just for Christmas..."
Ouch! What a way to thank a guy!
Oops!
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"So, Mr Robinson, what did you get for Christmas?
"Well, a customer I went out of way to help went and posted my e-mail address on XDA-Developers.com, and for Christmas I got a deluge of SPAM. Well, as you know, SPAM is not just for Christmas..."
Ouch! What a way to thank a guy!
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To be quite fair I don't understand why they only honour this on Business tariffs!
But Oops, you're right there Nano, and didn't realise that actually and I'm very sorry. I was stressed out for you guys not being able to get the device so I was only trying to help...
- Thanks for pointing that out NanoRuler
Explodingfist said:
To be quite fair I don't understand why they only honour this on Business tariffs!
But Oops, you're right there Nano, and didn't realise that actually and I'm very sorry Mark Robinson. So guys if you're emailing him plz don't mention my name. I was stressed out for you guys not being able to get the device so I was only trying to help...
So don't mention me guys - Thanks for pointing that out NanoRuler
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It might be wise for you (and nanoruler in his quoted post) to edit out the O2 guy's email address- if you want to assist people, they could always PM yopu for the address.
There are a lot of bots out there combing sites,and harvesting email addresses to add to spam lists.
NanoRuler said:
T-Mobile offers the x7510 (branded as the Ameo)
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Is it in UK yet? It was originally only in Germany, and doesn't appear on T-Mobile's UK site at present.
It's been available in the UK for quite some time now. My x7510 is an Ameo.
good suggestion Neil. Can you help instruct me how to omit out the address
Much appreciated
Explodingfist said:
good suggestion Neil. Can you help instruct me how to omit out the address
Much appreciated
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The moderator,kyphur has already done it for you
Anyway, if you look at any of your old posts, you should be able to see a box called Edit in the bottom right of the message frame. Just click this to open an Edit box.
I bought my XDA Flint on eBay for £470.
Still no joy with this, absolute nightmare.
Now being told the only way to get this on o2 is to change to downgrade to pay a go from a standard consumer account and then upgrade to business.
This doesn’t add up with being told I can negotiate a free handset as I have been a long standing customer.
It’s looking like I need to make a complaint to get this resolved.
With regards to eBay, I have never paid for a phone / pda in my life.
Neither have I really. Not fully anyway. The way to do it is to upgrade to the most valuable handset you can for free or by paying as little as possible, then sell it as brand new for a shedload of cash. Use that cash towards the purchase of the handset you really want.
The trick is to sell it on again before it goes too commercial i.e. before it goes to the big network providers. That way it will retain most of it's original value, and you can put the cash you make towards the next new thing, again before that hits the networks. You'll still get your default upgrade too. Just upgrade for free again to a valuable device and sell it on. Then you have two pots of cash to use towards a new power toy every 12/18/24 months (depending on your contract). Gotta stay one step ahead! This isn't too difficult because, at least as far as HTC are concerned, their devices are released by them about 6 months before the networks get hold of them and stick all their ugly badges and buggy software on them!
I was a bit slower with the Flint, as the Advantage x7510 was far too expensive anyway beforehand. I just gave into temptation, even though O2 and T-Mobile already have their hands on it. Hopefully, it's value won't depreciate too much in the next 6-12 months.
Got my new XDA Flint for FREE!!! (hee-hee)
I just got my new XDA Flint but am afraid of starting it up. Will it try to install an O2 HMI instead of the normal WM 6?
This forum helped with my XDA Exec with WM5 by providing me the corporate number to overide the O2 HMI.
Can anyone help please?
I got this as a new upgrade plus I reduced my monthly costs on my business tarrif with their new small business tarrif...sweet!!!
There is no 'Corporate Mode' option on the Flint- all installations are the same.
However, there is no O2 customised front end. In fact there is no front end at all, as O2 do not include HTC Home in the build.
The release ROM for the Flint is a good one- newer than the cooked ROMs, and is fast and reliable.
If you use it with a non-O2 SIM, you will need to manually enter the connection details as it doesn't include HTC Connection Manager.
Thank you NeilM!
NeilM,
Thank you very much for your help.
So I should have done the full install instead of skip it? Ooops? I will do a hard reset then and start over. The quick start guide says I can make video calls....is this true in WM6 I thought this was not supported?
My next task is to see if I can port the Tom Tom license over to this PDA. Then put an SPB front end unless anyone has a better suggestion?
As you can tell I am behind the times - it has been a long time since I upgraded from the XDA Exec (2005 - which has always been rock solid and reliable) and the Flint fits my purpose of a mobile office whilst going to clients facilities. This Flint in a small briefcase and a note book makes my commutes to clients a breeze. I see other consultants with giant ruck sacks and 20 million gadgets/laptops notes books etc and I pop out with this thing, my mobile phone, a leather note book and I am ready. I did not get the Flint to be a phone. My problem with Blackberry's are the keyboards are too small for my fingers and Blackberries dont have MSWord and Excel apps to create/edit information and the Flint has a video out so I can show PPT presentations on sales calls. If only MSFT could allow creation/editing of PPT...that would be a result. (Suggestions anyone?)
Also, does anyone know if there is an Open Source application for pushmail as my company run Linux servers and was looking to see if one existed to mimic the push of mail instead of the Flint constantly checking, thereby saving power. (In no way am I trying to avoid the MSFT push mail solution, I just want to know if another exists as Open Source)
Don't reply if any of the above has already been discussed in this forum. I should do the work to find out the info. However, I did not find too many Flint threads on this forum so I do not know if there are SW or HW nuances that need to be considered.
Thanks to all!
No problems with the questions! The Flint/X7510 is sufficiently 'rare' that there are few comprehensive answers out there, though it is very similar to the X7500.
You definitely need to hard reset (Settings/System/Clear Storage) as a lot of essentialstuff gets installed from the supplementary installation (Opera, JetsetPrint etc)
The O2 theme is very blue as you would expect, but there is absolutely no other O2 stuff apart from the O2 Connection mamnager which configures the settings for whichever O2 provider you are with. If you use another operatorSIM, you will have to enter the settings manually, but this is not difficult.
For using as a presentation tool, I'd advise buying the enhanced output cable (unless it is already supplied)as it includes a USB host connector and an RCA Video Output. The USB can be used with an external mouse/keyboard (even a wireless combo) or a pen drive if needed.
If you are serious about needing Powerpoint presentations, and don't mind spending a bit of cash, then I can highly recommend Softmaker Office. It is expensive at €70 but has 3 programs which are respectively fully compatible with desktop versions of MS Word, Excel and Powerpoint. You can create, edit and read any file on the WinMo device, and can even print to PDF format.
For a front end, I think Spb Mobile Shell is an excellent choice, especially in combination with PocketPlus (but you need 4.03 Beta available from the SpbClub forums). You may also need to look at an extra Soft Keyboard, as the Flint only includes the basic MS ones. Cootek Touchpal and Spb Keyboard are both good options.
Video calls have been supported in all 3G Windows Mobile devices, from WM5 onwards- not sure where you got the info about WM6, but that is not the case! Maybe you were reading about US versions of the X7501 which some companies insisted on their users utilising- this had the front camera removed for security reasons (supposedly!). Obviously both parties need a decent 3G signal but it works well. The Flint runs WM6.1 and has good video capabilities.
TomTom- how old is your version? If more than a year it would pay you to buy the current version with its updated maps- currently on offer at £30 for UK and £40 for Europe. If not, then TomTom will supply you with a new activation code. If you have only used one previous activation, you can go to www.ttcode.com, enter your map's product ID and your new phone's Device ID, and it will generate a new activation code. If you've already used your activations, then email TT support with a proof of purchase for the Flint and they might provide a new code. Beware though that if they deem the Flint as unsupported, they may not give you a code.
For 'quick and dirty' location, then the new MS Live Search V4 or Google Maps work well, though the GPS does take up to 5 miunutes for a 1st fix (subsequent fixes are quicker).
Hope this helps!
Hi all,
I have been using BarcodeZilla for a while now based on a recommendation from a friend, but I have to say I'm disappointed with it. The final straw being that I have just scanned a PS3 game (Call of Duty) and although it recognised it, it could not retrieve any pricing information. I think this defeats the object of the application; I want to be able to see something in the shop and make sure it's a bargain before I buy it.
So... what do you guys recommend as a better alternative??
Thanks in advance,
Baloo
BiggerBaloo said:
Hi all,
I have been using BarcodeZilla for a while now based on a recommendation from a friend, but I have to say I'm disappointed with it. The final straw being that I have just scanned a PS3 game (Call of Duty) and although it recognised it, it could not retrieve any pricing information. I think this defeats the object of the application; I want to be able to see something in the shop and make sure it's a bargain before I buy it.
So... what do you guys recommend as a better alternative??
Thanks in advance,
Baloo
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I doubt any barcode scanner could have that function... That is how every other barcode scanner works. If I am correct in my thinking, the price of the item is unique to each store, while the barcode is the same, so basically, the barcode can represent a different price dependent on the meaning coded into the store's system.
Sorry for not being clearer - I want to compare prices to internet sites such as Amazon, so I can see prices elsewhere before I buy in a store.
Thanks for the quick reply
id love an app like this. surely there must be something out there........
donwhann said:
id love an app like this. surely there must be something out there........
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As I understand it, that is what BarcodeZilla is supposed to do. Although it tries to get prices from Froogle (Google's shopping channel). But in my experience, it doesn't do it for everything.
this mite be what your looking for...
i cant post outside links as im a new user so search omarket for 'mobiletag'
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this mite be what your looking for...
i cant post outside links as im a new user so search omarket for 'mobiletag'
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Absolutely spot on, thanks
Mobiletag only searches .com sites. How do you get it to search .co.uk sites ?
So many applications can implement such functions, Zxing's barcode Scanner is OK.
So, i had an interview this morning for a job, and have an opportunity to earna great deal of brownie points with the business owners!
They were thinking of purchasing some sort of electronic signature capture device (like fedex or UPS has when you sign for a package) for invoices.. BUT.. I also mentioned my Droid Eris and how it can do so much... Turns out, both of the Owners have DROIDs lol..
Anyways.. I want to know if anyone has seen some sort of application that can capture signatures, and either save an image to be emailed, or email directly from the app..
OR does anyone know a DEV that could create something as simple as this, that I can talk to and relay updates on the APP to the owners of this company..
They seemed really interested in it, and I'm pretty positive it will show a good bit of initiative in saving their company money from the get-go (on my part)
It would be AWESOME to maybe have a custom app built, specifically for their company, but anything at this point (instant gratification method) would help!
Thank you guys in advance!
EddieVersatile said:
So, i had an interview this morning for a job, and have an opportunity to earna great deal of brownie points with the business owners!
They were thinking of purchasing some sort of electronic signature capture device (like fedex or UPS has when you sign for a package) for invoices.. BUT.. I also mentioned my Droid Eris and how it can do so much... Turns out, both of the Owners have DROIDs lol..
Anyways.. I want to know if anyone has seen some sort of application that can capture signatures, and either save an image to be emailed, or email directly from the app..
OR does anyone know a DEV that could create something as simple as this, that I can talk to and relay updates on the APP to the owners of this company..
They seemed really interested in it, and I'm pretty positive it will show a good bit of initiative in saving their company money from the get-go (on my part)
It would be AWESOME to maybe have a custom app built, specifically for their company, but anything at this point (instant gratification method) would help!
Thank you guys in advance!
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Sounds like a good idea but it seems like it would be difficult to sign on a capacitative touch screen.
Yeah i understand that part, but I think "finger signing" wouldn't be too bad.. Would there be a way to use some sort of "stylus" maybe with a specialized tip that would actually work on the capacitive touch screen?
I'm mainly just wondering.. I think it would be cool to be able to save thousands of dollars on expensive equipment by using what they already have, and just didn't know they could use it.
Signing would be doable if a person could write one letter at a time. I only really know this because of the google expressions application.
They have styluses for cap screens, My mom has one for her iPad. It was really cheap too
<goes to see if it works with nexus one>
Actually you can build your own. (I tried to post you a link to a how to, but I am not permitted to do so)
mooch
I like this idea, and I think I will work on it. I can't make any promises though, if I choose to do this I will start screwing around with it in the next few days. If you have any feature requests go ahead and post them here. Or you can email me at burlyskink (at) gmail dot com
I have seen a local cable install company use moguls for this purpose
There is a signature capture library available for Android. Search for 'biz.binarysolutions.signature' on the Market. I am not allowed to post links, but the developer's site is hiding behind bit.ly / scfahp
This looks like a must have for me:
Sony Ericsson LiveView
Being a Sony product, though, I'm sure it will be way overpriced.
Has anybody heard pricing and availability information for those of us in the USA?
Edit:
This thing is a waste of money (around $100 imported from the UK) until they update the device and/or software to stay connected or get more than a few hours of battery life. You can't even use it as a watch with it disconnected from your phone. POINTLESS Sony garbage.
I'll learn my lesson one day.
Hello!
I've been keeping an eye out on this too
here is some info on price and the app itself:
http://www.xperiax10.net/2010/11/08/sony-ericsson-liveview-app-hits-the-android-market/
The display is due to be released in the next fortnight with Play.com listing it for £49.99 for release on 19th November.
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Not too far away And £49.99 isn't too bad...
I ordered mine today! They're not available in the US nor are they planned for release here so I had to order online from a company in the UK.
After international air shipping it came out to $109 US dollars and the company said they will start shipping this Friday the 12th!
Should have it sometime next week so I'll came back here and give a review after it arrives.
I just ordered mine, too. Looks cool...
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I just ordered mine, too. Looks cool...
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I see your in FL. I'm in Seattle, WA so you'll probably receive yours before I get mine, not fair! lol.
I like the idea of this LiveView thing, I think it is going to be great for me at work because my job doesn't allow cell phones to be used on the production floor for security reasons. Me being in Maintenance, I'm allowed to carry my phone, I just cannot pull it out of my pocket while I'm on the floor unless its for work related reasons. So with this I can still keep tabs on my messages, social network updates, and incoming caller ID.
I'm just hoping it is somewhat rugged and water resistant. I'd be pissed if I destroy it while I'm working on a machine (I plan to wear it as a wrist watch).
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I see your in FL. I'm in Seattle, WA so you'll probably receive yours before I get mine, not fair! lol.
I like the idea of this LiveView thing, I think it is going to be great for me at work because my job doesn't allow cell phones to be used on the production floor for security reasons. Me being in Maintenance, I'm allowed to carry my phone, I just cannot pull it out of my pocket while I'm on the floor unless its for work related reasons. So with this I can still keep tabs on my messages, social network updates, and incoming caller ID.
I'm just hoping it is somewhat rugged and water resistant. I'd be pissed if I destroy it while I'm working on a machine (I plan to wear it as a wrist watch).
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I work production maintenance in a pen factory. This thing seems perfect for me, too. They aren't as strict about having your phone out, but the convenience seems awesome. Depending what equipment I'm working on, I'll just take it off for working on the machines. Maybe I will do some kind of "pocket watch" type thing with a lanyard. We'll see after I get mine BEFORE you! hahaha
What kind equipment do you work on?
seancneal said:
I work production maintenance in a pen factory. This thing seems perfect for me, too. They aren't as strict about having your phone out, but the convenience seems awesome. Depending what equipment I'm working on, I'll just take it off for working on the machines. Maybe I will do some kind of "pocket watch" type thing with a lanyard. We'll see after I get mine BEFORE you! hahaha
What kind equipment do you work on?
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Nice! We both work in the same industry doing pretty much the same jobs lol.
I work for a check printing company, so for security reasons we can have cell phones on the production floor because of all the visible bank account numbers, especially ones with camera.
I work in the maintenance department, I fix all the production equipment (digital printing presses, auto boxing/packaging machines, cutters, large stitching and binding equipment, etc). Being maintenance, I'm allowed to carry a phone due to the fact I sometimes need to call for support/ideas from another facility or corporate tech support.
I like your idea of using it as a pocket watch, that's not a bad idea. I'd hate to get grease and oil on it as a wrist watch and/or scratch/crack the screen while my arms are in a machine.
yes please share your experiences when you get the device!
User Guide
Found the User Guide online.
Looking through it now. Hopefully mine ships out from the UK sometime today!
seancneal said:
Found the User Guide online.
Looking through it now. Hopefully mine ships out from the UK sometime today!
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Nice find! I just finished reading through it. Man I can't wait for this thing to arrive. I know it has its limitations, I'm not expecting a full featured superphone on my wrist, but I have I hopes for this device!
I'll update back here when I receive my shipping confirmation.
edit: One thing I noticed from reading the users guide, about how it shuts the screen off after a short time. Ok, I understand the reasoning to save power. But, will there be an option to keep the screen on in clock mod? i.e. screen is always on and showing the time, like a digital watch, and then you press a button to access everything else. I guess we'll have to wait and see, maybe possible with a plug-in or modding.
WOW! I feel like I just had a conversation with a wall! Checked this out, this is the chat transcript from the conversation I just had with a Sony Ericsson chat support specialist, I was trying to find out how to download the SDK for the LiveView. LOL
Please wait while we find an agent to assist you...
You are currently in position number 1 in the queue.
You have now been connected to an agent.
Aimee watson: Thank you for contacting Sony Ericsson Chat Support. My name is Aimee, how can I help you today?
Daniel: Hello Aimee
Daniel: I'm trying to find the SDK for the new LiveView accessory for Android
Aimee watson: Hi Daniel, I just read your question regarding the LiveView accessory.
Aimee watson: You can download the SDK from the Android Market.
Aimee watson: You will need to do a search for 'LiveView TM'.
Daniel: the SDK (Software Development Kit) should not be in the Android Market as it will need to be installed on a desktop PC to write software/plugins for the LiveView... desktop PC's cannot download stuff in the Android Market
Aimee watson: There is also another application you can download from there called Liveware to add compatible applications to the accessory.
Aimee watson: In the UK, it is not possible to do this on a PC.
Aimee watson: It is only possible to do this on the handset itself.
Aimee watson: Which is by using applications available in the Android Market.
Daniel: ok. so developers can write to apps for the LiveView directly from the Android Phone itself?
Daniel: thats a new concept i'm not familiar with
Aimee watson: If developers are wishing to create an application to use with the LiveView accessory, it would need to be uploading within the Android Market.
Aimee watson: You can then use Liveware to load this to the accessory.
Daniel: yes, but I am a developer wishing to write software FOR the liveview, how would I do this?
Aimee watson: You would need to contact the developers team.
Aimee watson: Would you like an Email address for them?
Daniel: I would need an SDK that contains the core API's that the LiveView uses. Sony Ericsson is suppose to be releasing this SDK for developers and I have not been able to locate it. Yes that would be great
Aimee watson: Here you go: [email protected]
Aimee watson: If you drop them an email, they should be able to help you further with this.
Daniel: perfect, thanks for your help
Aimee watson: No problem. I hope you get that sorted.
Aimee watson: Is there anything else I can help with at all?
Daniel: Nope that will be all.
Looks like you can push "any key" to show the display. That shouldn't be too much of a problem in my situation. I wonder if that includes the soft directional buttons surrounding the screen?
Like you said, it is hard to tell how the experience will be until we get our hands on one for ourselves. I'm hoping for mine to be shipped today, too. But it might ship Monday. I usually get stuff in about 5 days from the UK.
You may want to get in touch with Paul @ MoDaCo in regards to development. I hear he's already looking into making some apps for the LiveView.
Mine just shipped via Royal Mail. Waiting for updated tracking information!
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App
seancneal said:
Mine just shipped via Royal Mail. Waiting for updated tracking information!
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App
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Mine shipped today as well. Tracking says "We have received your item, posted on 12/11/10 and it is being processed for delivery abroad."
it works w/ the g2?
osupra said:
it works w/ the g2?
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Works with any android 2.0 or higher device
Always hated the way watches felt on my wrist... cool item though for people who wear watches still.
Mog said:
Always hated the way watches felt on my wrist... cool item though for people who wear watches still.
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Yeah, I've never really worn a watch much. But I'm a sucker for gadgets. I remember back in the day, late 90's or early 2k I had this pager/sms watch. It was awsome tech for the time lol.
I can't wait. Just ordered mine. I'm actually really curious to see what plug-ins developers will come out with.
yea the only reason why i never wore a watch was because i had the habit of looking at my phone (even if i had a watch on)
So hopefully, since this liveview thing doubles as a notifier and the lot, i would start wearing a watch
LOL, I just had the thought of people cheating in exams with these!