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XDA-devs on marketplace?

I'm not sure if this has been discussed already, i already did a quick google search and didn't find anything...
But i was just thinking, there are always great apps that i find honestly every week on XDA, mostly because they're just burried under pages, or maybe dont have the same wild popularity that ifart does. But does anyone else think it'd be a great idea if we could maybe somehow take donations from XDA users, and then use this money to register XDA as a developer on the Microsofts upcoming Marketplace store? Maybe it could be turned into something where we the users actually vote which applications should be submitted on a weekly or montly basis. I just think there's so many great apps on XDA that it'd be a great way to get them, and xda-devs as well, some exposure. I'm sure there's lots of people on XDA that have developed great apps whether they be keyboards, or scroll modification tools, or other utilities that may not want to spend 99 bucks and dont think they will actually develop 6 apps.
Chime in guys, i dunno if i'm crazy...but i think it might be a good idea.

I suspect that the first major hurdle would be this:
You are able to download so many great apps from XDA-Devs because they are generally free, and that is why people are allowed to post them here. If they were not free, I am pretty sure they can no longer be advertised on XDA-Devs, correct me if I am wrong.
So if there was a way to recoupe the $99 join fee when all people are doing is offering free apps and taking no profit, them I am sure people would be willing to consider it. I also believe that after you have uploaded six apps, then it is another $99 for every app after, no?
It is a good idea, and deserves some thought, I just can't think of how to make it viable. XDA is popular enough that if there was a way to make money from it, it would have made its own marketplace

Article about XDA Developing

Hey, I have created an article on XDA Developing and links to the forum to try to bring some more members to this site and to help out. I tried to post as much information as I possibly could to the article. Maybe you can tell me what you think?
Here is the article:
Techburrow said:
XDA (Xtended Design Architecture) Developing is great to learn if you have a windows mobile device. Reason being is because Windows Mobile is new and still growing, so there is not much you can do with your phone, in this case I have the HTC HD2 which is a great phone with a lot of potential, but you are limited to what you can do on it, this comes in when trying to find apps, as Windows Mobile is very limited on apps and most cost a lot of money. Now you may think a couple of bucks for an app, but no, the most expensive Windows Mobile app I have found in the marketplace was 69.99 for a image organizer/tool. It didn’t do anything magnificent and to me, definitely not worth the money. So I looked around into trying to do more with my Windows Mobile device and found out about XDA Developing.
I visited the Windows Mobile website and came to find that they offer free tools to start creating your own apps for your Windows Mobile phone, even though the tools were free, there is a cost if you want to make money from your app by putting it in the market. So you can create apps for your own liking and use, but if you wanted to put it in the maketplace for others to buy/download there was a one time fee of $99 dollars. Now I thought it was reasonable as long as you get the free tools. So I downloaded the tools and got everything running, but there was a lot to learn. The Windows Mobile website gave some dummy codes for developing but did not have any guides on how to learn how to start building. I was then searching and searching until I found a great website known as “xda-developers.com” which is a website with great forums and discussion on Windows Mobile devices, they also do some discussion on “Andriod” OS as well. There forum is a great place to inhance on what you can do on your phone. As for me I used the forum to find out how to develop my own apps, find apps others have made, they also have custom ROMS and RADIO (cooked) which is sort of like a “Jailbreak” and there are many ways, with a lot of help and support along the way. Thanks to this website I have brought my phone to its full potential and I am very happy with it.
I have fixed a lot of problems I have had with my device as well, such as “freezing, bricking, OS fails, and much more” which got me to thinking my phone would have to be returned. I think that Windows Mobile should have some of the XDA-Developers code a new version of HTC Sense & Windows Mobile, just to make it more stable and bring more customer satisfaction. If you have any problems with your Windows or Android device I would highly recommend using the sites I have listed above. Even if you are just looking to get more out of your phone.
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MOD EDIT: Please do not post external links, it is considered indirect advertising which is equal to spam. Hope you do not do that in the future. I removed the link and copied the article. Any further talk, do PM me.

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[Q] Applanet

So I see a bunch of folks around xda mentioning, even recommending applanet.
i`m certainly not opposed to free but I just cant figure out why they want permission to access to log in credentials when installing the app.
Would anyone smarter then me like to give their two cents on this?

TainT said:
So I see a bunch of folks around xda mentioning, even recommending applanet.
i`m certainly not opposed to free but I just cant figure out why they want permission to access to log in credentials when installing the app.
Would anyone smarter then me like to give their two cents on this?
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hmmm. I don't remember it asking me for credentials....I got the apk and installed it, and it launched......maybe it used my stored credentials? hmmm. I did not give it too much thought as I have 2 google accounts. 1 for junk and another more serious. They could hack the junk one all they want.

Lemme clarify. When you install the app. The permissions page pops up telling you applanet wants (among other things) permission to access your account credentials.
Very few apps I have seen need this level of access.
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Just buy apps!
Pirating will stop/stall development for the best and new apps in the android market. Support them, this will give you more pleasure with your tablet in the end.

Kwart1001 said:
Just buy apps!
Pirating will stop/stall development for the best and new apps in the android market. Support them, this will give you more pleasure with your tablet in the end.
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Agreed ... baring in mind that there are apps on the Market that require really suspicious permissions as well, regardless of whether they are free or not. It's probably worse with APKTor, which is not designed towards secured downloads

Kwart1001 said:
Just buy apps!
Pirating will stop/stall development for the best and new apps in the android market. Support them, this will give you more pleasure with your tablet in the end.
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I support many developers by buying apps. I didn't start this thread to be lectured by you.
I wonder why someone so opposed to pirating is even here?
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TainT said:
I support many developers by buying apps. I didn't start this thread to be lectured by you.
I wonder why someone so opposed to pirating is even here?
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You other guys aren't even reading what he's written
"The permissions page pops up telling you applanet wants (among other things) permission to access your account credentials"
As in - when you install an app from the market, it tells you what it's going to access on your phone and asks for your OK. He's asking why an app would want access to your credential information portion of the phone (as opposed to just SD Card Contents, etc). He hasn't said ANYTHING about trying to pirate apps!
BTW, I've never seen one ask for that.

TainT said:
I wonder why someone so opposed to pirating is even here?
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By that you mean what? That people opposed to pirating apps shouldnt read threads by people that do?
Im also opposed to pirating. Yeah, if the app is free and you cant get it, then ask the dev for the apk, but knowingly taking a paid app without giving a donation or any recognition to the dev is wrong.
Just my opinion.
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What I meant was. Why would someone with such high morals be on a site dedicated to circumventing software limitations imposed by others.
Having said that. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and since the awkwardness of the apPlanet apk changed my mind about installing it I don't even see a need to continue those thread.
BTW. Some apps are ridiculously expensive and I still don't see a reason to pay upwards of $20 dollars to a group of investors just to find i still can't edit word documents.
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There is a big difference in "circumventing software limitations imposed by others" on a device you have bought and own and blatant pirating of apps

So, everyone on xda has no morals? Im sorry, but thats a ridiculous statement. People on here mod free apps, or they will mod paid if you have proof youve paid for the app. No roms have paid apps in them unless theyre put in by mistake and then theyre taken out.
And yeah, there are ridiculously priced apps (navigation for £40 - £80) but people do buy them.
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TainT said:
What I meant was. Why would someone with such high morals be on a site dedicated to circumventing software limitations imposed by others.
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Applanet is a warez source - this site has a very strict policy *against* warez, which is probably why the "hacking" aspect of it is tolerated.
There's one other thread on XDA concerning Applanet and it got shutdown immediately.
BTW. Some apps are ridiculously expensive and I still don't see a reason to pay upwards of $20 dollars to a group of investors just to find i still can't edit word documents.
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That still doesn't make stealing an application right though does it? Don't forget that you have 24 hours from making your Market purchases to uninstall and get a refund if it doesn't suit your needs.
Regards,
Dave

I though this subject was not about pirating but more about why an app asks for some rights.
btw applanet is not only for pirating it also provides free apps unavailable on the market.
in addition it seems to not providing anything anymore the last past days....

There's supposedly a new release coming soon, and they're fixing the server end of it as well.
I think what it boils down to is if you're uncomfortable with the permissions an app is requesting, then don't install it. Better safe than sorry right?

Actually its only 15 mins to return the app. Still its better than ios
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AppPlanet is a warez app.
We don't do warez here. XDA is about getting the most from your device, not about screwing people over.
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Question on third party app websites

I understand that some forums don't support cracked or free apps. I have read a few threads and I'm not sure if this one does or not.... What site do you use for third party apps? Currently all I know about is 4shared, and a lot of the search results have nothing to do with android. So I'm wondering if you know any other sites that work well, or maybe even better. Once again if you don't support this, I'm sorry and it will be the last time I'd post anything along these lines.

Obviously xda does not support illegally cracked apps, meaning offering paid apps for free. You are however free to share free applications ;-).
Telling you where to find sites with cracked apps would also not be allowed on xda.
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[Q] noob question regarding Marketplace

I have an Android phone and am not a fan of having to go to the Marketplace to download software.
Is there a Windows marketplace equivalent of the andriod App Planet?
I'm considering purchasing a Windows phone.
Thanks,
Craig

Are you asking if theres a site that will give you access to all the paid apps for free?
If so, NO THERE ISN'T, open your wallet and help the devs, or stick to the free apps in the marketplace.

No, I wasn't asking for free stolen apps
I know that independent developers need to be supported.
I just hate the fact that I have to go to one central place for purchasing that's all.

Newfie said:
I know that independent developers need to be supported.
I just hate the fact that I have to go to one central place for purchasing that's all.
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So far there's no such a place unless you try and Google it whether it's Android or Wp7 or IOS

Newfie said:
I know that independent developers need to be supported.
I just hate the fact that I have to go to one central place for purchasing that's all.
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So what your saying is that you'd rather purchase from multiple places rather than 1?

Let's see...
There's the Marketplace website.
There's the Marketplace hub on the phone.
* There are a couple of ways to get to it, too.
There's the bing search feature on the phone, which can find Marketplace apps.
There's the Marketplace on the Zune software.
If that's not enough options for you, then I'm going to have a reallllly hard time buying the argument that the special feature you're looking for isn't "let me get the apps without paying". Asking for help with pirating stuff is strictly against the XDA-Devs rules. If you're honestly not looking for that, what *are* you looking for?