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iphone installous-like apk?

was wandering around the internet last night and found an apk a lot like installous for the iphone cant post link for obvious reasons but i was wondering if they're any dangers to using it?

Well there is one by Jesusxxx I was using not to pirate the apps but just as a test, becaues I'm the kind of person that needs a few days to see if an app works in the way I need it.
However None of the repos work anymore at this point so I'm SOL. Anyways if it works see if you can post some repos for me.
I'm not sure if Xda condones the discussion of pirated wares though. Tread lightly my friend.
EDIT: it appears that is the one by jesusXXX. Is it actually working and doing what it's supposed to?

works for me and no i dont condone pirating software either was just wondering if this apk is in any way malicious and sould i uninstall?

The chances of getting a virus on linux is very low. The chance on getting a virus on something linux-based is even lower. So in short there is really no chance of getting a virus. You have really nothing to fear except the government my friend

but if anyone thinks i should remove this post i will do so immediately not trying to get banned (only my third day being a member) lol

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well i did read the rules and its my understanding that as long as i post no links that discussions are allowed even if its about somewhat debateful software but tell me how to remove it and i will thanks to mudrock for the USEFULL reply

what does it do?
any app can be malicious without being a virus. eg: read your contact data and save it for other purposes.

I know what you're talking about. I have this app and have used it to test out applications to see if they're worth their salt. Most of them are out fo date, and even list free apps you can normally get in the Market, and some are not even downloadable/workable anyway. It's all rather half-baked.
Anyway, I haven't had any problems using it or indications that it was malicious.

behelit said:
what does it do?
any app can be malicious without being a virus. eg: read your contact data and save it for other purposes.
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Its a third party market it can install and uninstall apks
I've found some apps on there that I can't find in the android market swiftkey is the one I remember for sure

aren't there other third party markets besides this black market?

I know theres Mikandi. Its a porn app store, but it sucks.

I mean I read somewhere that some phone manufacturers were developing their own markets meizu was one I think and maybe motorola was the other correct me if I'm wrong

rooted finally, now i have a few Adfree issues?

Wondering if anyone else is having this problem. A few apps seem to get a bit screwy after using adfree. One of the main ones is Words with Friends. It loads up and goes to a full screen error.
Any way to set exceptions for certain apps, or should I just deal with the ads?

I had to pick ad free or words with friends on my dinc ...sucks there is a big ad that tries to load there for some reason only when you have ad free...

Yes words with friends does not work with adfree...it sucks
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There was a version in the Incredible forums that fixed this.

The game and adfree worked fine on my Due. I have adfree on my TB, but not the game.
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madzozs said:
Wondering if anyone else is having this problem. A few apps seem to get a bit screwy after using adfree. One of the main ones is Words with Friends. It loads up and goes to a full screen error.
Any way to set exceptions for certain apps, or should I just deal with the ads?
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They need adds to create revenue, so they try to make it as difficullt to block them as possible. Also, this hould be in Q&A/General section.
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There was a version in the Incredible forums that fixed this.
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Apps like that are considered warez at XDA, and will be removed and acted upon as such.

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They need adds to create revenue, so they try to make it as difficullt to block them as possible. Also, this hould be in Q&A/General section.
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Sorry for the wrong section. Figured due to it requiring root and being caused by an app not working with another this would work.
Never had the issue with my DX so I was confused. Guess I'll get rid of adfree for now.

Here is a fix
http://neallambert.com/?p=5
Worked great for me, but you will have ads in Words with Friends... Itll work tho

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I don't see how this can be...
The original version is in the Android market, and lists an XDA forum thread as the authors homepage.
It had a bug with the way it worked with one app, and was fixed by someone locally, who didn't try to pretend it was theirs, or anything other than a fixed version.
How would it count as warez?

earhog said:
Here is a fix
http://neallambert.com/?p=5
Worked great for me, but you will have ads in Words with Friends... Itll work tho
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Worked for me as well. I don't mind the ads in Words free. I had them on my DX with AdFree running as well. Thanks again.

The problem with Ad Free (or any ad blocker) and Words With Friends is not unique to the Thunderbolt. Same issue on my Nexus S.
You can get past it by opening the app, and VERY VERY QUICKLY hitting an existing game to open it. You'll bypass the first ugly ad and be able to play the game. If you aren't fast enough the first time, hit the back button to exit, and then reload and try the game.
Works for me on both Thunderbolt and Nexus S.
edit: I don't usually mind ads, but it's apps like Words w/Friends that drive me to ad blockers. Ads that are intrusive, non-relevant, and obnoxious turn me off. Words violates all of those, even going so far as to start video ads without my okay. I understand devs and companies need to generate revenus, so I always buy a pro version of an app if it's available; I don't expect stuff for free, but I won't put up with intrusive ads either. Does Words have a paid model? I haven't seen it.

Apps that remove adds take away from devs revenue. If they had an app without adds, they would charge for it. If you posted that it would be warez since it would be taking away from dev revenue. Taking out the adds does the same thing, thus making it warez.

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Apps that remove adds take away from devs revenue. If they had an app without adds, they would charge for it. If you posted that it would be warez since it would be taking away from dev revenue. Taking out the adds does the same thing, thus making it warez.
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Lol. Yeah, thats not how it works, but thanks for your creative interpretation...
I hope you don't ever use any adblock software for firefox/chrome/ie...

option94 said:
Apps that remove adds take away from devs revenue. If they had an app without adds, they would charge for it. If you posted that it would be warez since it would be taking away from dev revenue. Taking out the adds does the same thing, thus making it warez.
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I'm pretty sure they pay for putting the ads there not for every add that shows up... So that screws up you explanation
Warez is taking a "PAID" app and distributing it as free
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FREE apps possible?

Like the iPhone, when you jailbreak it, people who cracked the app can download it for free. Can we also do same?
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Support your devs, apps and roms. You have no clue how much time goes into either, the least you can do is pay/donate for their hundreds of hours of work. Its possible but me/or probably anyone else that knows how to do it isnt gonna tell you. I've even donated to developers who do good work, and I'm a developer.

Nada broski. It's illegal and unethical.
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google...
Bestandroiddownloads.com
applanet
I dont condone either but they are out there...

We don't discuss Wares, pirated software, etc. here on XDA. Read the sticky. Please close this thread!

sorry. guys...

Anyone immoral and unethical enough to crack and post "free" apps on the internet is also immoral and unethical enough to include a virus, steal your identity info, or anything else. One way or another, you end up paying for that kind of stuff. It is much cheaper and easier in the long run to support the developers so that they have the incentive to continue to develop.

God forbid you don't spend $.99-$5
Skip the Big Mac for one week and pay for your app.
Support the community.
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the only place i used pirated software with apps is on my iPhone, but i would only try them for no more than a day and then i would choose to buy it or not due to the fact that theirs no refund policy with ios

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+1
When I got my first android phone almost 2 years ago, I [plead the fifth]. Within 20 minutes I felt so guilty that I immediately bought the app and donated an extra $10 to the developer. I don't understand how you can do such a thing, Android even lets you return the app if it wasn't what you were looking for!

Thread closed, this is illegal.

Extremely disappointed with the android community

I just need to vent. I'm a fairly active developer for the android platform. I've created a number of kernel patches and applications that I have released at no charge to the community for about 10 or so devices.
All this I do in my "spare time", which I have very little of because I am a full time professional student who takes on 32 credit hour semesters.
Recently, since my 1994 geo prizm is literally falling apart and I was hoping to scrounge together a little bit of money to get a new car so I don't end up stranded on my way to class, I decided to release a paid application. Fastcharge / Force AC toggle which allows you to toggle on and off the force AC feature. A feature which I have personally implemented and released source patches for on a number of devices.
Not only in every thread where I released the patch on a device did I write up how to toggle the feature through the command line, but I also stated that I also implemented a toggle into my completely free application that you can also download from the market, IncrediControl.
In good faith and knowing how annoying licensing is, I elected to not include licensing in my application. This is a huge regret.
Within a couple days of releasing the application to the market I googled it to see if anyone was talking about it. One of the first links was to a piracy site where a user was requesting the widget, to which another user obliged and posted the apk to a filesharing site. Doing something I never though I would have to do, I filed a DMCA takedown request, which was answered quickly and the app was taken down. Monitoring the thread, every single time a link gets taken down, another user requests the app and the original user reuploads it, most recently to 11 different sites.
So now, after filing dozens of takedown requests. This user has decided to unzip my apk, change out the artwork, and now is going around releasing it as his own work.
Really, all this to avoid paying $1.50 (only ~$1 of it actually going to me) to an individual whose yearly income is low enough that he doesn't have to file taxes?
This disgusts me.
This is even worse than the 50% "order cancellation rate" that the widget has. I'm not stupid, I know exactly what users are doing, but yet initially I was willing to ignore it. But this has gone too far.
What is even the point of pissing off a developer so much that he is considering saying screw the platform all together? It doesn't even make sense. We, the developers improve your devices, generally at little or no cost, and this is how we're repaid. With ~50% of current users of the application having pirated it. To avoid paying just over $1.
Now before someone even counters with the "my area doesn't support paid applications" argument I've actually gladly GIVEN the widget away to a number of users who casually mentioned in the release threads that they couldn't download it for this reason. Not to mention, everyone knows there are apps that unlock the market in these areas to be able to purchase apps.
How much more generous can a developer be than to provide source code patches for a feature, provide information on how to toggle the feature, provide a COMPLETELY FREE way to toggle the feature, and then charge a measly $1.50 for a secondary, slightly more convenient way to toggle.
Yet he's repaid like this .

Of course, this must suck for a developer like you. Unfortunately, it seems to happen more and more often, and all I can really say is:
I would gladly pay a few bucks for an application like IC or BootManager. That BootManager seemed really interesting, but we can't buy apps from the Play Store without CC (and as a 16-year old, I don't have one). I asked the developer if he accepted Paypal, but he didn't.
Don't get me wrong, and this is not an attack to you personally: developers, if you made something really nice, and people will like it, 70% of the people will gladly pay for it, just make sure you allow them to.

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70% of the people will gladly pay for it, just make sure you allow them to.
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I honestly thought this was the case. It's really not. The problem is much worse than that. If 70% of users in the root community paid for apps it would be astonishing. Its made pretty clear by the number of users who download the app, back it up and then cancel the order.
If a 16 year old kid had made me that offer, the e-mail reply I sent would have the apk attached.

Well, that is a real flaw of Android: tweakability is really impressing, but these things make it really difficult to earn some money as a developer.
We have been thinking about anti-piracy measures as well, with stuff such as authentication with a server, and locking down the code and verifying integrity of APKs and stuff to make sure it's really hard to mess with the code, but it's just sad that there's a need for these measures..

The trouble is everything has piracy right from movies to game consoles through to mobiles and music.
I mean the iPhones appstore would be a hell of a lot bigger if there was no jailbreaking and installous.
Every platform has been cracked so you'll get it regardless of what you develop for.
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I think you know you just needed to vent but can I change your picture.
There are some people in this world who just don't buy the idea of an idea as property. That's not compatible with this business model. That's the first problem.
The next problem is that
there's a million and one apps out there and which one are we going to choose? Where does it start, where does it end? We all have our limits. What's yours?
For me, the app has to be something very unique and possible generate me cash. For example something I use every day at work. If it's something that the phone should do anyway I tend to skip it and save the $1 for the next phone that does it out of the box. Your app is a great thing, but there's many utility apps out there. It just doesn't fall into the kind of thing I'd cave my strict budgeting for. There are people here with a 1000 apps installed and you expect them to pay $1000 in this sense.
Another way would be having utility in the cloud and then the app is free. Another one of course, advertising.
The difference with both of these is we don't need to risk a credit card with the market. That's the main reason I personally haven't bought many apps and I'd imagine it's a problem for minors too.
The very community that allowed us to create the app fails to pay for it's products is like life itself.
I'd say make something for the iphone instead because there's more profit there but that would never have been possible, see what I'm saying? That's the 3rd problem.
So you've got 3 problems there all converging into one big push towards piracy. But remember, can your app assure security that the pirated version cannot for example? This is how one has to think.
In short,
you can't do something and hope to make a bit from it on the side. You got to go out from the start and get the money aspect central from the start. I mean, that's business and of course that's exactly what the android community works hard to free us from.
Still, summarising those 3 points for suggestion:
- offer something free things can't (i.e. security, brand etc) For example, I never run pirated stuff for fear of insecurity on my data whereas I'll try out software that way on an old PC
- can always put a service in the cloud aka the javascript trap
- iphone is there if you want...
- needs to "the one app" a certain person would pay for, not something everyone likes
Also just to make that point again, if one does not believe in property then inconveniently there is no moral crime here. I suggest learn to live with this and go with the flow

I hope google sells PlayStore cards (like itunes cards) that allows user to buy apps, music, movies, books without a credit card. I really want to buy some amazing apps but i dont have a credit card so i just use free apps. I think that if u cant buy an app that cant be a reason to piracy or sidedownload that app.

jago25_98 said:
For me, the app has to be something very unique and possible generate me cash. For example something I use every day at work. If it's something that the phone should do anyway I tend to skip it and save the $1 for the next phone that does it out of the box. Your app is a great thing, but there's many utility apps out there. It just doesn't fall into the kind of thing I'd cave my strict budgeting for. There are people here with a 1000 apps installed and you expect them to pay $1000 in this sense.
Another way would be having utility in the cloud and then the app is free. Another one of course, advertising.
The difference with both of these is we don't need to risk a credit card with the market. That's the main reason I personally haven't bought many apps and I'd imagine it's a problem for minors too.
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The feature is 100% unique and so is the widget. Not to mention, if you didn't want to pay the $1, I provided a free way to toggle the feature in the utility app. The point is, that there is nothing forcing people to pay for the widget to use the feature. But instead of using the free option provided, they not only pirate the paid app, but edit the artwork and release it for free as their own. It defies logic.
Also, ad based apps don't work with the rooted community. I learned that early on. Myfree utility app is ad supported. With over 40,000 installs you would think it would make even a dollar a day. Nope, makes nearly nothing. That's when I realized that the same niche I was marketing to are the same people who block ads. Even if someone didn't want to block ads, they can't install a single ROM that doesn't include an ad blocking hosts file out of the box.

chad0989 said:
[...] How much more generous can a developer be than to provide source code patches for a feature, provide information on how to toggle the feature, provide a COMPLETELY FREE way to toggle the feature, and then charge a measly $1.50 for a secondary, slightly more convenient way to toggle.
Yet he's repaid like this .
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Be sure you're looking at all sides. Yes, you're in a losing war with guys intent on pirating your app. You can't stop them, and well, you goofed on the licensing, so someone will no doubt release the clone.
First of all, don't do the Big Media thing and assume that everybody that pirates your app would have paid for it if it hadn't been available. A lot of folks collect, or just try something once. You'll only work yourself into a funk thinking about all that money you "would" have if only they hadn't been able to pirate it. They wouldn't have. At least not all of them.
More importantly, be aware that placing something out there with value does reach folks that otherwise would have no idea of you or your plight. More than once, I've purchased an app that I don't really need, but found clever and cheap enough I can buy it without thinking about the investment. I've spent more on Android software at $1-15 over the last year than I did over the last 25+ at $30-100 a pop. I've only refunded an app once, by accident.
Finally, be up front about your situation. A guy trying to make do does influence my impulse buying. So does his reputation. If you're doing a lot, be sure that's clear on your app page, and let us know clearly you're the guy that also brought us whatever.
I am curious, though: How much did you actually bring in?

Chad- thanks for telling your story, I agree that you have every right to be disappointed. Especially the buying and refunding, that to me send almost worse because you can't stop dedicated pirating, but I would have hoped the rest would have bought the app.
It's easy to forget the human side of development, so thanks for sharing your side.

Jesus christ Chad. This is f$%&*#@ ridiculous. Probably the best and most generous kernel dev I have ever come into contact with, and people are cheating you out of 1.50. Please don't abandon Android. I need kernels when I get my rezound! but in all seriousness, warez needs to stop.
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Yep. Sucks. After getting serious about android , which wasn't too far in, joining with a nexus one and seeing all the free HARD work we get, I definitely try buying stuff I use. If I can't pay sometimes I will see if dev does something else I can donate to. Its an issue I've thought about and part of it really boils down to how sorry people are in general. They want free and cheap. $1 is laughable even when it can be easily had for free. You really should market yourself a bit even though you don't want to. And people should really put a complimentary $5 or so budget a month or more and try to support devs. Maybe if you have something he gave free but has an app you won't use for a buck, buy the dollar app and uninstall after the 15 minute period. Or throw him a 5 through PayPal or something. Its simple really. If these devs don't have to resort to ramen and water they keep dev'ing especially for the community supporting him or her. And if they're eating vegetables and have plenty of red bull money it gives them wings. Otoh, the devs that make us pay to reinstall an app after we bought it on another or lost our phone suck. Balls. Won't buys theirs anymore.
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Maybe you should implement a system like some developers do where you download the app for free with a time limited trail, then they would go to another website to pay for the app to unlock it, and the unlock codes would be unique for every user which would minimize piracy.
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rafa6571 said:
I hope google sells PlayStore cards (like itunes cards) that allows user to buy apps, music, movies, books without a credit card. I really want to buy some amazing apps but i dont have a credit card so i just use free apps. I think that if u cant buy an app that cant be a reason to piracy or sidedownload that app.
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In the Netherlands we have prepaid Visa card.
Works well.
Maybe you google something similar in your own country.
(3V prepaid Visa cards)

That does suck but if someone wants to pirate an app even licencing doesn't stop them as there is an app that apparently patches licence checks.
It is so easy for even a non root and new user to find cracked apps, I have seen links on here and even on peoples facebook sites, it's got to the point where people can just browse a webpage and click a link to get the cracked version of an app.
Unfortunately if someone wants to crack it they can. Unless you could implement your own security check somehow, something obfuscated in the code, licencing is the only alternative as it would stop people using backed up cancelled versions at least.
Unfortunately it seems a lot of people just don't want to pay for apps.
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also have to look at both sides. some people just refuse to pay for **** whatever it is, or get it as cheaply as they can. being android apps, the free route is how they're going to go. but the other side, you hsould be grateful for all the people that do pay. they're the ones helping keeping google, open source, android and everything in between chugging along. open source is the future and you can tell every corporation i said that. and thanks for you your work even though i've never used it.

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Also just to make that point again, if one does not believe in property then inconveniently there is no moral crime here. I suggest learn to live with this and go with the flow
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There is plenty to disagree with in your post as it all seems like an attempt at rationalizing ways to get around the system. This last statement is a ridiculous attempt at summarizing why stealing is OK. Your morals don't define the crime, the law does. Stealing property, physical or intellectual, is not legal and not right regardless of your morals or lack of.
Chad,
I am sorry to hear of your products' abuse. I used your kernels all the time on my Incredible devices and bought IncrediControl to support development. I have purchased many applications just to support development and believe that is the way to get high quality applications.

Piracy is just so damn easy on Android. I know ppl that are doing it who I wouldn't even expect to be doing such a thing. This guy I know love android only because he can get everything free by just googling the apk.

awww thats sad i feel really bad for you!

I've used pre paid visa debit cards to buy apps. You can find them in Any money shop like Cheque cashing places for example. You can even just stick a dicky diver (£5) on them. Perfect for situations like this
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transfer phone and all apps on it to another user

i have a galaxy s2 with many free and paid apps on it. i wish to transfer ownership of the phone and all applications including paid ones to a friend so that he does not have to buy all the paid apps on it again.
i would think it is possible since i paid for use of them if i wish to give up use under my name and assign use to someone else using the same phone i should be able to. i cannot find a way to do this in play store or in appbrain.
does anyone have a clue how to do this or know where to point me for instructions?
i would have better luck contacting Abraham Lincoln than i would trying to contact google.
as it is the phone will probably try to self destruct once i change the gmail account it runs under so i want to have this in place in the stores so it can verify and re-get the apps if necessary without hassle since the stores would know that he owns the phone and apps..
any help would be greatly appreciated.
Cody

I think you should try to contact Abraham Lincoln, that seems like a good plan of attack. Just Google his contact info...
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I think you should try to contact Abraham Lincoln, that seems like a good plan of attack. Just Google his contact info...
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LOL might be.. they seem to think of everything i cannot believe they didn't think of this. transfer of equipment and associated 'licenses' is very common.

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i admit i am not familiar with titanium backup. outside of restoring any odd apps onto the phone so they run again, would that list the paid apps withi play store so when he gets an update to an app they wont try to charge him again? i want his apps account to totally recognize the s2 and all apps as 'his' without question so they will not try to charge him for them. i will have no rights at all to those apps on that phone. i have a galaxy note that i had to pay for all the apps again for it which is as it shoudl be.. it is a different phone...
i want to hand him the phone set up for his account such that when he goes to do anything with play store or appbrain they will recognize the phone and all apps on it free and paid, as his.

It is not possible to transfer apps from one user to another. It isn't even possible to transfer them to a different Google account that you use.
Read the Google terms and conditions and you'll see this on there - nothing you can do about it.
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SimonTS said:
It is not possible to transfer apps from one user to another. It isn't even possible to transfer them to a different Google account that you use.
Read the Google terms and conditions and you'll see this on there - nothing you can do about it.
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thank you. no i have not read their drivel. so then they on one hand scream freedom from being locked to a specific provider, and turn around and lock the phone in a far more sadistic and restrictive way. what we need is a company who believes in total freedom and implements such. they are no better than apple then..
wonderful.
i do not find a 'resolved/close' thread button so i will consider this thread closed.

Only one solution
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thank you. no i have not read their drivel. so then they on one hand scream freedom from being locked to a specific provider, and turn around and lock the phone in a far more sadistic and restrictive way. what we need is a company who believes in total freedom and implements such. they are no better than apple then..
wonderful.
i do not find a 'resolved/close' thread button so i will consider this thread closed.
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The only one solution is to put your gmail account on the phone of your friend. But of course he will have an access to all your mails etc, so I don't think it is a good solution !

HappyDr0id said:
The only one solution is to put your gmail account on the phone of your friend. But of course he will have an access to all your mails etc, so I don't think it is a good solution !
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no. i did that once a few years ago for someone i trusted. that person abused the trust and bought all kinds of expensive apps and used my gmail email account as their own. i had to close everything out and start fresh so i will never do that again.
there is no earthly reason why a phone and all its installed apps cannot be moved from one account to another except google's apparent need for control or laziness in coding the proper routines.

gndmstr said:
thank you. no i have not read their drivel. so then they on one hand scream freedom from being locked to a specific provider, and turn around and lock the phone in a far more sadistic and restrictive way. what we need is a company who believes in total freedom and implements such. they are no better than apple then..
wonderful.
i do not find a 'resolved/close' thread button so i will consider this thread closed.
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They may well use an Open-Source software for their devices, which is a fantastic thing, but they are a business and exist to make money. You don't 'own' the apps when you buy them - you are just getting the right to use them. Anything beyond that would be considered on-selling, even if you are making no money from it. Do you think that Apple would let you transfer apps to a different account? Or Microsoft for that matter?

SimonTS said:
They may well use an Open-Source software for their devices, which is a fantastic thing, but they are a business and exist to make money. You don't 'own' the apps when you buy them - you are just getting the right to use them. Anything beyond that would be considered on-selling, even if you are making no money from it. Do you think that Apple would let you transfer apps to a different account? Or Microsoft for that matter?
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when you pay for an app you pay for a license to use that app. there is no reason why you cannot transfer that license to another person as long as you give up all rights to use that license yourself. i have done this with many microsoft applications and they support it. or at least they did as of the beginnings of xp. i would give the original disks to the person, remove the application from my machine and then i called msoft and advised them of the license transfer. they took the info and were happy. apple simply is not a contender in this situation. they are all about control. even moreso than microsoft and i would never have believed i just said that. dont get me wrong they make some incredible hardware and systems, i just totally am at odds with their business philosophies.